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Catalyst

06-20-06, 21:01

Susanna (again), and
Yvette (again)

This was my last day, and I was going to make the most of it. I repeated with Susanna and Yvette. It was just like the first time except that I had them do more with each other than with me. It was fantastic watching them kiss and lick each other. How much time and money had I wasted in Amsterdam trying to find girls who would do threeways and if I were lucky it would only be a partial rip off, and now I had a roomful of three way all star beauties.

Maria, Turkey, 25?, looks 7, attitude 9

There were several other nice girls that I still hadn’t gotten to and wanted to see before I left. Maria was a nice Turkish girl with long black hair covering her shoulders and big natural tits. She agreed to do it right in the main room in the corner with the wide sofa area.

Maria, Germany/Thailand, 25?, looks 8, attitude 9

Next up was Miriam, a pretty half-German half Thai girl. We went to a private room and she did a fantastic cim for me, letting it drip out of her mouth and all over her chin like a porno movie. I think she had changed the subject when she said she thought the food was better in Germany than in Thailand, but I’m not sure.

Margueretta, German, 25?, looks 7, attitude 9

The last one that I really had to do was Margueretta. She was a nice German girl with wavy dry red hair to her shoulders. I saw her return with a customer and I asked her if she was free. She said she wasn’t ready quite yet, so I told her to come get me when she was. She found me in the main room and we had sex there in front of everyone.

Yvette (again)

When we were done it was still early to leave. I figured I could squeeze in one more round, so I went with Yvette, who had grown on me. If this wasn’t my first FKK trip ever I would have said this was a mistake. I was by this time completely exhausted sexually from the past week and that afternoon had been particularly intensive. There was a lot of blowing of my half limp dick and finally a long jerkoff session to try to cum in her mouth, which eventually succeeded and was really nice, with cum dripping out of her mouth and spread all over her lower face, but she gave me a look (a friendly look) and said that she thought I was done for the day. I agreed. I also tipped her 30 DM extra for the long and patient session.

When I left several of the girls came over to say goodbye. The manager said that she thought I had been with every girl, though that wasn’t quite true since there were one or two who were heavy and I wasn’t interested in. Also I regretted never having been with the frizzy red haired girl who I had seen giving a blowjob on the first day. She had only been there once or twice after that and I hadn’t gotten to her.

Unfortunately there was a bit of a disagreement before I left. I was low on DM so I had asked if I could pay with Dutch Guilders if I ran out and the manager had said yes. I had asked what the rate was, was one Dutch guilder equal to one DM, and she had said yes. Well, when I went to pay one DM was not equal to 1 guilder, it was equal to 1.2 guilders, so the price had gone up and I made a fuss, but I paid anyway. I thought she had played a game with me, but I had enjoyed the club so much I didn’t want to make much out of it. Later, however, I looked at the currency rates in the paper and realized that she was quoting a very fair rate. She probably hadn’t understood me when I asked if the rate was 1 to 1 and I felt badly for unnecessarily creating a bit of hard feeling after such a wonderful week.

Catalyst

06-20-06, 21:03

Susanna (again), and
Yvette (again)

A couple of days later I was back in Babylon and this time I was going to do a threeway and make the most of my experience to get it right. This time I picked both girls myself, Susanna and Yvette, and they were both young and beautiful. We warmed up on the sofa and went to a large and luxurious room. And it was hot. We did double blow jobs, double daty, oral triangle ... One image fixed in my mind is both of them on their knees, facing each other, holding each other tight and making out like two horny teenagers, which is what they were, or almost. I finished with a double cim. Susanna whined because I got some of it in her eye, but overall it was one of my great all time experiences.

Anya (again)

After that I went back to Anya. She seemed very pleased and even surprised. She was warmer and friendlier than before. She absolutely refused do sex in the room, but she didn’t seem to mind doing a very long 69 on the sofa in front of everyone. Anya’s skin was really soft and youthful. In the room she kissed like my girlfriend that I hadn’t seen for a month. I banged her brains out and then we went back to 69 so I could cum in her mouth. She didn't swallow, which was the way I wanted it, so I lied for her and paid the extra 50. When we were done I wanted to take her downtown and buy her presents.

Catalyst

06-20-06, 21:04

Name?, German, 24?, looks , attitude 4

But first I needed a break. I went to some interesting towns to sightsee. I also tried a couple of other clubs, but with bad results. I went to Berndt’s, which took forever to find, including asking people with their kids how to find the street, and when I got there it was closed because it was the weekend. I also visited a club somewhere north of Koln and it was closed too. It was right next to a bar and I embarrassed myself by going into the bar and asking where the club was. They told me they had no idea what I was talking about, but I’m sure they knew exactly. On my way through Frankfurt I decided to visit a no name club. At least if it had a name I didn’t remember what it was. It had a strange price structure, where 170 DM got me two tickets that were good for sex. There were only a handful of girls and I only saw one that looked interesting. I approached her and she had a lukewarm attitude. When we got to the room she wanted to do covered bj, but I could do bb if I spent both tickets. There wasn’t anyone else worth doing, so I figured why not. When the mediocre session ended I checked quickly to verify that there was no one else interesting and left.

Catalyst

06-20-06, 21:04

I still hadn’t tried Wiago, but if it was half as good as it’s sister club, Babylon, it was certainly worth going on another Yahoo maps expedition to find it. I went there in the afternoon so that if it weren’t good I would still have time to go to Babylon. It is in a semi-industrial area of town and was hard to find even with maps. They have the same formula of greeting you with naked women, only neither of the two who greeted me were hot. I thought for a moment of walking out, though that would be awkward and it would mean never coming back, at least not on this trip. Also as I walked to the reception desk I passed some photos of the alleged lineup, and they looked impressive. It was early in the day, so it was hard to know if the good girls were there yet or not.

Name?, France, 21?, looks 7, attitude 7

I paid and entered the main area, and I was not impressed. There was one girl who had a great figure, but not a great face. I waited a while to see if the selection would get any better and it didn’t. I wondered how there could be such a difference between two sister clubs. I decided to go for the girl with the nice body. I never got her name. She had long frizzy black hair down over her shoulders. She was athletic looking and had huge perfect tits. Her face had a lot of freckles. I sat with her and told her that I hardly spoke German and she got flustered and wanted to know how we were supposed to do anything in that case. I had a hard time understanding why this might matter much. She was from Strasbourg, though, so she spoke French, which I am better at, but I was still put off by her reaction to me not speaking German.

Wiago had a nice round red velvet bed in front of a fireplace in the secondary living room. I asked her if we could have sex there and she said yes. It was a great setting, out in the open on a luxurious erotic bed with a crackling fire next to us. Her performance was just so so. There was little kissing, and she wouldn’t do cim or even let me cum on her tits. When I was done using her there clearly was nothing else that interested me at this club, and I didn’t want to see her again. I hated to get only one session for my admission fee, and it was possible that more girls would show up later, but I still had time to get in a full evening at Babylon if I left right away and I wasn’t going to risk a night in Germany on the possibility that this weak spectacle might improve. Even if some nice girls might show up sitting around waiting for them would have been unbearably boring.

Babylon

On top of all that I had a date. When I showed up at Babylon Zabina was there and she came over and asked me if I still wanted to have sex with two girls in the middle of the main room. Of course I did. She suggested that we wait until there were more people so it would be more fun. (Now I didn’t have to feel bad about wasting time in Wiago.) Meanwhile she asked me which girl I would like her to pick as our third. The red haired girl who I had first seen give a bbbj on the first day was there and I asked if she looked good to Zabina. Zabina smiled and said yes, and went to ask her. She came back with a disappointed expression saying that the girl had said she would do a threeway, but not in the main room. We tried several others, including Susanna and Yvette. Finally Pia agreed. Pia had a great body, slim with perfect tits, but not a great face. We sat together while we waited for people to show up and she said one thing that was off putting. She asked me a favor; that the next time I not take SO LONG so finish when I am inside her! It hadn’t occurred to me that I had taken a long time with her the day before. At one point when we were waiting together a girl started giving a guy a blow job and I asked her what she thought of it, whether it got her excited. She and Pia laughed and Zabina said no, they had all seen SO many blow jobs that seeing one more had no effect on them. This also put a slight damper on my fantasy of a room full of beautiful girls waiting just for me to come have sex with them because they were so horny. I hadn’t really thought about what it would be like to spend all day every day there in that room, staring at the same walls and the same girls giving the same blowjobs, only the dicks changing.

Zabina (again), and
Pia, Germany, 21?, looks 6, attitude 9

The room filled up and Zabina suggested we get started. We went straight to the circular bed in the middle of the main room with no couch warm up. I got a little nervous when the TV showing porn was turned off, people took seats around us, and the manager came out to watch, but it was also exciting to be the star of a group sex show. I was going to bang two girls, have them do lesbian action, and cum in one of the girl’s mouths. That never happened in any of the crap sex shows that I had seen in various red light districts around the world.

It got off to a great start. Lots of deep French kissing with both girls and they with each other. Making out with one and getting blown by the other. A double blow job including 69 with both girls licking my dick. An oral triangle. One of the girls and I going down on the other girl. Then fucking. First Pia, then Zabina, and meanwhile they kissed each other, or one went down on the other.

But it got less good when I realized how many times I had popped over the past several days, including that day. I began regretting my visit to Wiago. As I should have felt myself getting closer to a climax I instead seemed to be getting numb. The effect of two hot girls kissing was wearing off. I also thought of Zabina’s complaint that I had taken too long the day before. So I decided to finish things off. As I was on top of Zabina I asked her if I could cum in her mouth. She said “No!” But Pia said it was ok, so I started to jerk off into her mouth. But even that was difficult. Zabina went down on her, but by then that didn’t stimulate me much more than if she had done her taxes in front of me. I worried that people were starting to get bored. Finally I was able to finish in her mouth, but what had gotten off to a great start had a slightly embarrassing end. Still, it was fun. Afterwards I realized that I should have just called it quits without finishing once it had started to go on too long.

Feeling guilty for taking so long I later tipped each of them 50 DM on top of all the other charges, so it ended up being expensive at 550 DM, but still fun and unlike anything I had ever done before. I didn’t regret it at all. I thought how it would have been better if I had blown the big load that I shot at Wiago in Pia’s mouth instead of inside that Strasbourg girl l, but I was happy to have seen Wiago and that session in front of the fire was memorable in a way. I tipped them extra partly because I had later asked Susanna if it is a good idea to give a little extra if I take a long time. She pointed at her head and said “now you’re thinking!” It was a crass response, I thought, but it was a yes and I was probably going to tip anyway.

Susana had watched the whole thing and I sat with her and asked if she thought I was crazy. She said no. I said that she probably doesn’t like having sex with another girl and she smiled and said “why not?” I lit up. I never thought someone as beautiful as her would be interested. I just didn’t think I could be that lucky. But now I was that lucky and it was time to enjoy my good luck. I waited a while to recharge the batteries, then asked her to pick another girl.

Susanna (again), and
Mandy, Germany, 28?, looks 6, attitude 8

She picked Mandy. This was disappointing. Mandy wasn’t bad, but she was older and not as hot as some of the other girls. She was at least in her late 20s and was German. She was in pretty good shape, but her tits weren’t firm and she just didn’t have that youthful firmness. I had thought that such a young and beautiful girl like Susana would pick another similarly beautiful girl. Performance-wise everything was fine. They kissed each other and went down on each other. But Mandy wasn’t a top girl and I couldn’t stop thinking about how good it would be if I had Susanna together with another young girl.

Afterwards we talked about some of the girls I had been with and I said I liked them all. For some reason they didn’t like Angela, the first girl I had gone with. I had noticed that Angela was more often by herself, and she sometimes smiled at me or tried to get my attention, which I think was not allowed, so maybe that bothered them. But Angela had been good to me and I said so. The conversation made me uncomfortable since the girl I had been least happy with, and only because of her appearance, not because of anything she could control, was Mandy. Anyway, it had been a great day, with two lesbian sessions, but each one had room for improvement. I was determined to come back and get it right.

Catalyst

06-20-06, 21:06

Susanna, Poland, 23?, looks 10, attitude 8

The next day I arrived in the early evening and was excited to see that Susanna had told the truth; she was back. She was from Poland. She was short and had a perfect figure with beautiful firm natural medium sized tits. Her hair was reddish blonde and shoulder length. I asked if she was still interested in me and she said yes. I started to notice that there was a script, with a little talking before the kissing started and then gradually building up to sex. When she began kissing it was nice, but she preferred to sword fight with her tongue rather than to kiss with her lips, and I didn’t like this as much. She blew me for a couple of minutes and then suggested we go to a room. I asked for a couple more minutes of blow job and she said ok. In the room she was nice. The kissing was always the sword fighting, but everything else was great.

After than I decided to try for a two girl session. I would have liked to get Susanna to do one, but I didn’t know if she was into it and she was the best looking girl in the place, so I didn’t want to risk putting her off by asking her to do something she might not like. So I asked Zabina. Zabina wasn’t really any less hot than Susanna, she had a classic German blonde look with long hair down to her shoulders and a nice figure. She seemed a little friendlier and maybe more open to unusual experiences than Susanna. I never really clicked with Susanna, even though I liked her and picked her several times. There was something about her personality that I just didn’t get.

Zabina, Germany, 25?, looks 8, attitude 9
Yvette, Slovakia, 19?, looks 8, attitude 9

When I suggested a threeway to Zabina she thought it was a great idea. I asked her to pick another girl and she picked Yvette. Yvette looked nice, but I had passed on her because she had a stiff manner and short boyish hair that I wasn’t crazy about. Other than that she had a perfect figure and a nice face, and I later wondered why I cared so much about those other little things.

The couch time was a double thrill, with two girls servicing me in front of everyone. In the room I splurged for a lesbian session, which was quite genuine. It included kissing, pussy licking, and even p2m from Yvette's pussy to Zabina’s mouth. I finished inside Zabina while she was kissing Yvette. I had never done anything like this before with European girls. I couldn’t understand why every guy in this place wasn’t doing exclusively threeway sessions. I even asked Zabina afterwards why everyone did mostly one on one sessions and she said that the threeway sessions were expensive. Maybe, but they were new to me, so I was willing to pay anything, and I couldn’t understand why everyone else didn’t feel the same way. I asked Zabina if anyone ever had sex on the circular bed in the middle of the main room and she said yes. I asked her if she did it and she said yes. I asked her if she would do it with me and she said yes. I asked her if she would be there tomorrow (I was too tired that night) and she said yes. But it didn’t end there. She asked me if I didn’t want to do two girls on the circular bed in front of everyone and I said sure. So we made a date for the next day.

Catalyst

06-20-06, 21:06

Six years ago I knew nothing about FKKs. I had seen internet reports, but didn’t know whether to believe them or not because they were so glowing. I had been to Amsterdam many times, to Patpong in Thailand, and Rio, so I had some idea of what good and bad experiences were. I had a rough sense that quality dropped fast when one got away from the developing world, so I was skeptical that one of the worlds most developed countries would offer good value for sex. I got a hotel in Koln and drove to Babylon using maps I had printed out on Yahoo. I had no GPS and found the highways and feeder roads out of Koln to be maddening.

I arrived at about 3 in the afternoon and my spirits were lifted when a couple of beautiful naked blonde girls answered the door. Inside the place looked far cleaner and more luxurious than I had ever seen in this industry, and there were several pretty girls in addition to the nice ones who had answered the door. The manager told me the pricing system and recited a list of what they offered. I wondered what each of these individual services cost and how they were negotiated. When she mentioned condoms I erroneously understood that contrary to what I had read on the internet bbbj was not offered at this FKK, so already I had reason to doubt the reports I had read.

I took a seat and observed. A girl came and asked me what I wanted to drink, putting me on my guard for extra charges. I took a chance and accepted it since I had come a long way and unless the reports were dead wrong I was going to spend some considerable time there. The drink was of course free.

It was still early. There were only a couple of other clients and they weren’t going to the rooms with girls. I must have looked bored and the girls must have been puzzled because I sat still in the same spot for about 2 hours. But inside my head my mind was racing, looking for any sign that might help me calculate which girls would be nicer, which ones would be ripoffs, and which ones might be convinced to offer the magical bbbj or cim that I had read about (though it seemed from my introductory talk that these services weren’t available here). Now when I go to clubs I can be relaxed about how my visit will go because I have already gotten scores if not hundreds of bbbjs from beautiful girls all over the world. I have had hot 18 year olds suck me to completion and let me cum all over their tongues. I have had them make love to each other and then to me. I have done gangbangs. But back then I had been almost entirely unsuccessful in living out porn star fantasies (other than with girlfriends, where the wildness is usually limited) and I was skeptical that they could be found anywhere in Europe with any regularity. I had found cim a couple of times in Amsterdam, but it was never offered up front. I was hungry for experiences.

Then my life changed. In front of me a guy began talking with a nice tall girl with long frizzy reddish brown hair. She had a great chest and was one of the better looking girls in the room, though certainly not the best. Finally I was going to get to observe a negotiation. If only I could hear and understand what they were saying so I could know how it was done. The prettier girls are sometimes the more difficult ones, so I wondered how well he would do with this hot girl. She began kissing him, and I quickly sprang to attention to see how this would progress. She wrapped her arms around him and they started deep French kissing. They hadn’t even gotten to the room yet. She was reaching under his towel and stroking his dick, which was rock hard. Even in Rio I had never seen action like this. The towel fell away as she started climbing over to embrace him fully and kiss him more deeply. Then she knelt on the sofa and went down on him in front of everyone! They were doing it in front of the entire room! And most exciting of all, he wasn’t wearing a condom! I was holding onto my towel tight to try to keep my own hard on from being too obvious. It was pretty clear which girl I wanted to go with. I wondered now how long it would be before she returned. A wild gem like this might get taken for the rest of the night.

She left with her client and the waiting game began again. Now there were a few more men in the club and one of them sat next to the prettiest girl there. To my amazement the same drama unfolded. She talked with him, then began making out, and then went down on him without a condom. Still, these girls could be two exceptions, but when a third girl did the same I caught on that maybe this was the norm. Suddenly I realized that all the time I had just spent watching and calculating had been wasted. The entire lineup bad been wide open for hours and I had missed the opportunity. Now I wanted to be part of this. There were still several beautiful girls around who I was definitely interested in, but now it was after 6 PM, the club had filled up with guys, and the best girls all had someone sitting next to them. Now, after all that waiting with all the girls completely available, everyone was busy.

Angela, Hungary, 26?, looks 7, attitude 9

Well, not quite everyone. Angela was not one of the very top beauties, but she was definitely pretty. She was from Hungary. She had dark hair and a full chest and a nice face. She wasn’t completely thin, but still had a nice figure. I was disappointed not to be starting out with one of the knockouts, but I was definitely excited. I nervously sat next to her and she started to talk with me in a relaxed and friendly way that immediately put me at ease. Talking led to kissing and, like the other girls, she went down on me without a condom, and in front of everyone. I had never done sex like this in public before and I thought it was great. She asked if I wanted to go to the room and I suggested doing it right there, but she said no. So we went to the room.

In the room there seemed to be no restrictions. She kissed me like she was my girlfriend and did any position I wanted. I asked her if I could cum in her mouth and she said yes, but that it would be 100 DM extra. That was fine with me, and not only did she suck me off to completion, but she swallowed it. Afterwards I expected that she would want to finish up right away and get back to the room where she could make more money, but she stayed and talked with me for a long time. When we were done talking I showered, went back to the main room, and a couple of minutes later she came up to me with a concerned look on her face and said it wasn’t 100 DM for cim, it was only 50 DM, and she was sorry for the mistake. The price had actually declined after I had agreed to give the money! I had never heard of this happening in Europe.

Anya, Poland, 19?, looks 8, attitude 9

Now that my eyes had been opened I was eager to continue. But still the very best girls were all occupied. I picked Anya, a Polish girl with golden blonde hair who wasn’t too far from being one of the top girls. Once the session started I realized how young she was and how smooth and youthful her skin was. Same formula; kissing and bbbj in the main room, and then we went off to a private room for hot sex. I came in her mouth when we were doing 69 and I expected to pay extra, but afterwards I was told that I didn’t have to pay extra just for cumming in her mouth. Only if she swallowed it was there a surcharge! When we were done it was getting late. I saw one of the beautiful girls available and went over to her, but she was about to leave. I asked if she would be returning the next day, however, and she said yes.

Catalyst

06-20-06, 21:08

Gentlemen. I have written up some of my past experiences from several years ago. Here is a report on my first ever visit to an FKK club back when Babylon was possibly the best club in Germany. It might not be helpful to mongers who want to know the current conditions on the ground, but it might give some interesting perspective on what has changed and what has stayed the same, or it might just have some entertaining stories in it.

If you like it let me know. I have several old reports on Germany that I can post on various branches if you are interested in the past.

Writing this stuff up is fun. It brings back memories. In addition to racking my brains I looked up credit card receipts, ATM withdrawals on bank statements, and boarding passes to piece together this narrative. I’ve recaptured a lot of memories that had been lost, and each time a memory of a girl returns it is almost like scoring her all over again. I’ve also learned from past mistakes and successes. I did this as much for myself as for my readers and I recommend to others to do this. I hope you like it.

Vicifranck

06-20-06, 21:46

Yes, Babylon used to be a great spot. My first FKK visited in 2000.

I understand your nostalgia but I don't thing that old reports on Germany
interest a lot of people (sorry for my frankness). IMHO, readers on this board look in priority for fresh information and precise details on the actual girl to identify them when they visit the club.

Vicifranck

Dedalus

06-20-06, 22:23

Hey Catalyst,

Many, many, many thanks for that stroll down memory lane!!! Babylon was the first real FKK that I visited way back in the day. I somehow never count Dolce Vita.

These names like Yvette, Suzi, Tanya, Sabrina, Mandy, Anita, Shirina, Anja, NINA!!!, and Pia make me nostalgic for the old days when this was THE PLACE in Germany for horizontal refreshments of the best quality. I was thinking of Babylon during my last visit to Palace. There was a girl working there who I was trying to place as I am certain that I had seen her before. She was a little heavy-set and looked as though she had some years in her face. Not old, but no longer in her early twenties. I finally realized that this was an older and heavier version of Pia that I was looking at. Gone is that girlish figure and that teenie face, but those sad yet mischievous eyes were still there. I almost approached her just to confirm my suspicions, but I let it pass. I am sure that it was her though. She was hanging out with a bunch of girls who usually work the Köln/Düsseldorf club scene.

Mandy was working at Oase for a time. I would often see her there on Tuesday nights. Nina, who was one of my all-time favorites just stopped after about a year and a half of working. Yvette stopped working there shortly after that big raid that nearly closed the place down. I never heard the whole story, but she was not welcome there anymore. Neither the management nor the other girls had anything nice to say about her. Sabrina got a straight gig. I even saw her once at her "real" profession. We had a slightly uncomfortable moment at first, then later just started smiling and laughing to the bewilderment of some other who were around. We were both pretty certain that our other "encounters" need not be shared in THAT company. She was my second session at Babylon and the one who showed me around the place. I will never forget the sight of her and Tanya, wearing nothing but high-heels and a smile, meeting me at the entrance that afternoon.

One of the oddest session that I ever had was in the downstairs area one night with Pia. I had been a somewhat regular at Babylon for nearly 2 years by then and Pia and I had never had a session together. I was chilling out after a sauna and she was relaxing by the fireplace. All of a sudden some older gent collapsed on the stairs and the paramedics were called. Pia and I were the only ones downstairs and we were sort of trapped down there until the paramedics could move this guy. He was large and this was going to take a while.

We started talking and I remember making some harmless jokes about the poor slob having to explain this to his wife. That got a laugh out of her and I made an offhand comment about what a waste of time this was for both of us. She looked at me with those mischievous eyes and before I knew it we were practicing the art of 69 in front of a "his and her" paramedic team and a barely conscious, overweight, German senior-citizen. At one point while I was on top of her and the female paramedic made some wise-assed comment, Pia looked over in her direction and told her something along the lines of What do you expect from me? The old bones is beyond the type of help that I can provide."
I actually had to stop the humping because of the laughing attack that I had.

We did finish the session and I think that the old man was actually OK, so there was no harm done by our "irreverent sexual escapades." Never had another session with Pia. That one was just too hard to top.

Thanks again, Catalyst! If Babylon ever again becomes what it once was, then lets go there together and relive some fine, old memories. Nostalgia ain't what it use to be.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Jackyo

06-21-06, 11:28

Babylon was once upon a time the place to visit.

It was so good I used to book a hotel nearby and make it a point to visit it several times during each trip.

I also have a collection of reports written about Babylon from the good old days.

Funny you mentioned Pia's name. She is still active at Samya. She's just as irreverent as before, still funny, put on a few pounds, still "ungeschminkt" as the Germans say.

She's very much an acquired taste.

I traveled with Mark from Toronto once and he told me of an encounter he had with her at Wiago late one evening when nothing was going on.

It was close to closing time and she asked him to go down on her as she hadn't had an orgasm all day. No charge at all. And so he did.

The one woman at Babylon who I can still picture clearly is Nina. She was just amazing: nice face, nice figure and a nice person.

When she quit there was an all points bulletin put out on the Roemerforum. Rumor was that she hooked up with Arabian princes living in the south of France and they take care of her now.

There are guys out there who like me still think of her from time to time.

Dedalus

06-21-06, 12:50

Hey Jacko,

When I finally recognized that it was Pia I was seeing at Palace, I was wondering to myself if I too had changed so much. She was there with a few others from Samya (Laura with the "Joker" Tattoo and a few other faces). I will never forget her running around Babylon one warm, summer day with a large water-pistol, attacking unsuspecting dudes.

Nina: That was a special one!!!

Nina told me often what she wanted to be doing when she finished her FKK experiment. I am not sure if she ended up realizing her dream but I am pretty sure that it did not involve being a kept women by a member of the Saudi Royal family. Who knows though. She was indeed charmed by swarthy middle-eastern types. Of course this was when she was not being swept of her lovely feet by a dashing young American ;-))))

I remember being part of that all-point bulletin when she stopped and that was also about the time that I switched my loyalties to Oase and PHG. It was hard to venture through Babylon's door's knowing that Nina would not be there. Plus Oase is just closer for me to get to and I was eventually able to find solace in beauties like Maria, Melanie, and Mirijam (not all at once, though.)

Still, Nina was in a league of her own.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Dedalus

06-21-06, 12:58

[QUOTE=Vicifranck]

I understand your nostalgia but I don't thing that old reports on Germany
interest a lot of people (sorry for my frankness). IMHO, readers on this board look in priority for fresh information and precise details on the actual girl to identify them when they visit the club.

Vicifranck[/QUOTE]

Dear Vici,

If and when Babylon restores itself to her former glory, then you will get bucket-loads of new info from nostalgic old fools like Catalyst, Jacko and myself.

Until that days arrives, please allow some of us veterans a bit of harmless reflection.

Cheers to the good ole' days,

Dedalus, who more than lives in the present tense on the Palace, World and Oase threads

Vicifranck

06-21-06, 19:34

Dear Dedalus,

Catalyst ask if, us, readers are interested in the past.

Yes, for nostalgic reflections like Jackyo wrote (rumor on the old stars....yes its interesting.)

No, for the reload of old reports

But you can do what you want, I m not the boss :)

Cheers

Vicifranck

Euro100

06-22-06, 02:18

Dude, come on. You have not posted at all, and then the first thing you do is you lean into a senior member for producing a write-up :(

There is no harm in the reflections of Catalyst. In the Rio section he posted a string of them that was so good that I made them reports of distinction. Many of us have similar old memories. It may be therapeutic for Catalyst to write this all down (it is for many of us when we write our reports :)), but it is also interesting to read for many of us and reminds us of similar feelings/fears/trepidations/elations/... we had. Plus, the insight into the human condition that Catalyst mentions are often timeless and shoudl be of great help to the novice.

Soooo ... let's just relax and enjoy the read.
euro

Catalyst

06-22-06, 04:43

Thanks for the support guys. I love hearing the updates on the girls. Check for more of my reports on other branches in the coming days. I'll spread them out over time so you don't get bombarded with everything at once.

Jakyo, I'll bet I'm not the only one who would love to see those old reports of yours.

Vici, don't worry; I don't think you meant it in a bad way. Some people seem to like these old reports, so maybe those who aren't interested can just skip over them. I'll be sure to mark them as "classic".

Jackyo

06-23-06, 00:01

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Jackyo, I'll bet I'm not the only one who would love to see those old reports of yours.

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I used to have my own website until my Internet service provider pulled the plug on me (something about indecency). Thats where I used to post.

Since then I've posted on the Roemerforum as I've gotten the most value from reading their content while researching trips.

Catalyst

06-23-06, 02:22

DAY 1 - Babylon (Days 2 and 3 are on the Berndt's and Oase branches)

After a moderately successful visit to Oase on my last FKK trip I decided to return to Babylon. The selection was good when I arrived and there was one particularly beautiful girl who stood out. I asked a couple of other girls if they wanted to have sex on the round bed in the middle of the main room and they both said no. I didn’t ask the beautiful girl because I wanted to see what the other girls’ reaction was first. Pia, who I had seen on a previous visit was there. She remembered our session from a while back, smiled, and said “he likes doing it in the main room. Are you sure you want just one girl?” She also said she could tell me which girls would do this, and when I asked about the beautiful one she said yes.

Jasmin, Germany, 23?, looks 9, attitude 9

Her name was Jasmin. She was German, with wavy golden blonde hair to her shoulders and a great figure. We had a nice session right there on center stage. I was nervous, not with stage fright, but wondering if everything would go the way I wanted. Other than the nervousness it did. If I wanted to nitpick I could complain that when I spooned her she didn’t turn around and kiss or even keep her back against my chest, but she kissed and had a good attitude. The prettiest ones aren’t necessarily the difficult ones.

Verona, Germany, 25?, looks 8, attitude 10

Next I did Verona. She is a nice German girl with long straight blonde hair down well over her shoulders. I don’t think she had been working long at that point, though she stayed on for years afterwards (and put on a few pounds). We also did it on the center bed in the main room, and it was a nice long session with lots of DFK.

Janine, Poland/Pakistan, 25?, looks 8, attitude 8

I couldn’t get any more girls to do it in the main room with me after that. There were three more good looking ones that I had to get to before I left. Janine was a tall skinny slinky girl with long straight black hair. One of her parents was Polish and the other was from Pakistan. I think I remember her saying she was 25, which was older than she looked. We went downstairs to the big mattress in front of the fireplace and had a nice session with lots of kissing, but I couldn’t finish.

Lucy, German, 19?, looks 7, attitude 6.

Next up was Lucy, a beautiful young German girl, who was 18 or 19. She had soft wavy brown hair and a little baby fat. She was the most reluctant kisser and by far the least engaging of the girls I saw. We also did it in front of the fireplace downstairs.

Nina, German, 24?, looks 8, attitude 8

Nina, a German girl, tall with short wavy blonde hair and nice big tits, wouldn’t do it in the main room or even in front of the fireplace. She insisted on going to a room, though oddly in spite of her shyness we went to one of the multiple bed rooms and she left the door open. It was a perfectly nice experience and it was great to have my fifth girl in one day.

At some point during this visit I had a revelation. When I was not having sex I was sitting still in a large room staring at the same naked girls and some chubby strangers. I had nothing to do, read, or watch, and no one to talk to beyond some brief chitchat with a girl who wouldn’t want to waste much time with me if I wasn’t going to do a session with her. For the first time ever I realized that this could actually get boring. On my first visits this never occurred to me because my mind was always racing, thinking about how to act, who to pick, how to negotiate, ... But now I had the system mostly figured out. There was nothing to keep my mind busy during the dead time between sessions. It occurred to me that some the girls might be bored out of their minds.

When I left four of the five girls were called over to say goodbye to me. (Janine was busy.) It was wild to have so many girls who I had just banged hugging me and telling me how much they wanted to see me again. Most of them gave me a small kiss, but Lucy made a bit of a show of kissing me like a real girlfriend like she had never come close to doing in our session together. I didn’t push her away or anything, but I could see what she was up to and I tried to have a what the hell is this all of a sudden reaction for the manager to see.

Catalyst

07-06-06, 06:07

Oase

This was the first time I had seen Oase since they expanded the club by adding the second room with the dancing pole. I was eager to have sex in one of the main rooms and I asked a nice blonde girl if she would do it.

Heidi, Hungary, looks 8, attitude 8

Heidi is beautiful with wavy blonde hair to her shoulders, a thick frame with a flat stomach, and a full chest. As soon as I picked her and was committed I realized that she was the grumpy girl that I had been with a year before and had been unhappy with. But this time she was nice. We did everything on one of the big sofas by the large passageway between the two main rooms. It was nice enough that I decided that she was worth spending extra on and doing cim, so I asked and she said it was ok, but she wanted to go to a private room for that. It actually worked out well since we got restarted again so it was almost like having another mini session. After a year of practice she had learned how to make guys happy. It’s exciting to see someone improve their skills so dramatically.

Maria, Russian, looks 8, attitude 7

I had also seen Maria before once. She was beautiful with a Russian face and Russian style fluffy wavy blonde hair. She had a wide frame, a flat stomach, and a great chest. She came up to me while I was on the sofa closest to the bar and I asked if we could do it there, to which she said yes.

It was pretty nice, though she hammed it up a bit too much. I started to take a while and I can’t remember if she said anything or not, but I eventually called it quits because I thought I might want to go back to her later so I didn’t want to take a long time. (Afterwards I thought about it and decided that I hadn’t really taken long at all, but she had made me feel like I had, so I decided not to go with her again after all.) But it was really sexy doing it right by the entryway with everyone passing by.

There was another nice girl with black hair who came by right afterwards as I was sitting in the same spot and asked me if I wanted company, but I told her I needed some time to rest. She came by again a little later and said something I didn’t understand, but it sounded insistent and I was slightly put off. I still wanted her, though, and just when I decided I was ready for her I couldn’t find her and I realized she had been telling me that she was about to leave. I later regretted not going with her right away. It could have been great to do two girls one after the other in rapid fire succession on the same sofa.

Name?, German, 28?, looks 5, attitude 5

So I looked around for someone else and didn’t see anyone nice. I started to panic, wondering if the good girls were all leaving early, like on my last visit to St. Augustine, and if I needed to grab what I could before it was too late. In my hurry I picked a bony girl with long stringy blonde hair that I wasn’t crazy about. I got her to do it in on the sofa in the main room, but she was unhappy about it. She was quiet and shy and it wasn’t her thing. She didn’t kiss and was a zombie. We mostly did spoon since I didn’t want to face someone who was going to turn her head away from me and not kiss. I regretted picking her. Doing it in public is no fun if the girl acts like she is ashamed of what you are doing. I didn’t waste a pop on her either.

Name?, Russia, looks 6, attitude 4

I wondered if I was done for the evening. But I at least wanted to hang around and watch the life in the club. After a while I saw a tall thick girl with long black hair who looked alright. She agreed to do it on the sofa in the main room without the dancing pole. She blew me for a long time and I think she was trying to make an extra 50 by getting me to finish early in her mouth. I thought it was a trick and I was glad that I had had so much sex during the past three days that finishing was going to be difficult. I enjoyed an extra long and enthusiastic blow job and turned her trick around to my benefit.

When we started having sex things went downhill. She wouldn’t kiss and was crabby. She started asking me how much longer I was going to take. I responded by trying to drag it out. After I had been banging her for a while I started to perspire and she acted disgusted when a drop of sweat fell on her. I ignored her and banged away a while longer before finally letting her off the hook. Whenever I passed by her after that we ignored each other.

Melanie, German, 26, looks 10, attitude 10

The two bad sessions in a row got me down, but most of the girls had not left early as I had feared. Then I saw a gorgeous girl who I hadn’t noticed before the entire day. I have since seen Melanie mentioned on this board, so she is known. She is a classic thin sexy blonde with an hourglass figure. We had sex in the main room on the sofa against the wall separating the main room from the bar. It was great, with lots of passionate kissing, 69, different positions, and finishing with missionary and cim, all in front of everyone. When I finished I asked “why haven’t we been doing this all night?” and that made her smile.

Alex, Bulgaria, 23?, looks 7, attitude 9

Alex is tall and not super thin, but she has a nice face and a sweet personality. Her long jet black hair gives her a southern European look. We did it on the sofa in the middle of the main room near the bar. I wasn’t able to finish, but she never complained or made me feel rushed. The whole time she was friendly and relaxed. She was always smiling. I liked her a lot.

Melanie (again)

I was pretty spent after that. But it was my last night and I wanted to try to cram in one more session. The club didn’t close until 5 AM, and it was about 4 AM, so most people had left and the girls were lined up against the wall by the entrance in front of where I was sitting. Now that I could see all the girls that were available until the very end I realized that I should have been more patient earlier when I picked the bony girl. I signaled to Melanie and we did another round on the sofa with all the girls watching in a row like audience members. I remember having Melanie in reverse cowgirl, looking Alex right in the eye over Melanie’s shoulder as we were doing it, and Alex turning red from embarrassment.

I was completely worn out and couldn’t pop, so I thought maybe I should try cim since that would be easier. I was out of euros and asked Melanie if I could pay in dollars and she said ok, but then after pulling off the condom and jerking for a while I could see that even if I succeeded I wasn’t going to be enjoyable, so I gave up. At least I knew I had pushed myself to the max. I had seen six girls, had convinced every one to have sex with me in one of the main rooms, and didn’t have a drop of sperm left by the end.

Catalyst

07-06-06, 06:07

Babylon

Babylon was my introduction to FKKs so I’ve always been sympathetic to it. I arrived for the first time in over a year and what I saw did not make me happy. Weren’t FKKs supposed to have girls? I saw a room with several guys sitting around the perimeter and no girls (or there might have been some unattractive ones that did not show up on the radar).

Yvette, Slovakia, 21?, looks 7, attitude 7

After a good wait Yvette, who I had seen there a couple of years before, walked in. She was still very young, but the intervening two years showed. She wasn’t overweight, but she had lost her teenage slenderness. She was still very friendly, but I thought I noticed a more businesslike or mechanical attitude, probably reflecting two years of this work. We went upstairs to a room and it was fine. We did cim, but I didn’t really get off on it since she closed her mouth around me completely and I never saw any of it. She spat it out into a paper towel and said “that was a lot”, which made me regret not having spilled it all over her mouth and chin (as I remembered doing a couple of years earlier). Babylon still had its premium price structure then, but the session wasn’t any better than at one of the big clubs with the normal price structure.

Verona, Italy, 25?, looks 7, attitude 10

The wait after that was unbearable. There was only one other girl there who was doable, and whenever she returned from the room she went directly to her next customer. There was a line for her and I had no idea how many people were in it. She wasn’t even super hot. It was Verona, who I had seen a year earlier. She was nice, but not spectacular, not quite what she was the last time I saw her. On the positive side, she wasn’t just processing guys to get through as many as possible. I could see that she was taking very good care of them to keep them as repeat customers. It was good to watch, but it was frustrating that she spent so long with each one while everyone was waiting. When she disappeared she left a room full of bored and frustrated guys staring at each other, and when she came back there were a few moments of soon to be dashed hope before she joined her next regular. I probably waited for her for more than two hours.

When it finally was my turn, though, she treated me like a regular. She came and put her head against my shoulder like she was lonely and wanted me to comfort her. I didn’t know if she remembered me from a year earlier. She didn’t say anything. I asked her if we could do it on the circular ottoman in the center of the room and she said yes. At this point there were a couple of other girls there, including Yvette, so I got to perform for a mixed audience. When we started spreading out our towels one of the girls asked in German something that must have meant “what are you doing there?” and she responded loudly with a big smile “sex!”

She had a nice figure, but she had put on some weight since the last time I had seen her and I wondered if she wasn’t near the end of her FKK career. She was still shapely and she still had her nice long blonde hair. Once we got started I forgot about the wait and everything was good. We kissed passionately and had a long session with lots of different positions, ending with cim. After we showered she cuddled with me for a while. Then she moved on to the next guy and I could see that the public sex idea had caught on because he got her to do it with him too. I watched them, and then for me there was nothing left, so it was time to return to Sudbad.

Sudbad

When I arrived I was a bit taken aback. All of the girls were sitting at the bar and there wasn’t a single guy in the place. It seemed unnatural. I got a drink and went to sit by myself. It might have been fun to talk to the girls, but my German is not great and I thought that they might not want to struggle through it if I wasn’t about to go to the room with someone. Also I like to hang out and warm up by watching the action in the main room first. An hour or so later guys began showing up and the club quickly got crowded. I was told that there had been a big football match going on that had just ended.

Anita was there again, and I also recognized Sammy who I had seen months earlier at St. Augustine and had had a pretty good session with. So I decided to do a threeway with lesbian action. But they told me that lesbian was double the price, which I knew it wasn’t (it was extra, but not double), and rather than argue and maybe get the management to force them to do lesbian action for less than they thought they should be able to overcharge me for and then have them be cranky about it I decided to just do a plain two girl session.

Anita (again) and
Sammy, German, 26?, looks 5, attitude 5

We went to the bed in the main room next to the bar. It was mechanical. It lasted for a long time because I wasn’t going to be able to finish quickly. At one point I asked to change positions, saw them look at each other, and I could see they were wondering how much longer is this going to go on. Sammy really wasn’t nearly as cute as Anita and on top of that was much more impatient, maybe because she could tell that I didn’t like her as much. After a while she wouldn’t kiss anymore. So I devoted most of my attention to Anita and finished inside her. It actually got easier to finish once I started ignoring Sammy.

I hung out for a long time after that. I wanted to do another session, but never managed to adequately recharge my batteries. There was a nice girl from St. Augustine who I talked to. I tried unsuccessfully to convince her to have sex with me on the sofa in the main room, but she would only go to a private room and I wasn’t interested in that. Anyway she had been drinking a lot – some guy had been buying champagne and drinking it with her – and she didn’t feel well. I also talked for a while to a Romanian girl who didn’t meet the aesthetic requirements for a session, but who was friendly. When I left the woman at the desk said something like “oh, you only did one session” (even though I had been there for a long time). She wasn’t unfriendly about it, but it annoyed me since she had seen me several times at St. Augustine and knew that I was a good customer who usually took many girls.

Catalyst

07-06-06, 06:08

Berndt’s

I hadn’t been in Bernd’s for a long time and after seeing several other clubs I had forgotten how small the main room was. I was worried at first about the selection. There was one super gorgeous girl who I asked to have sex with me in the main room and she said no, so I passed on her since I wanted to do that first. There didn’t seem to be much else, however, and I was wondering if I would be leaving early for Sudbad, which I knew I could get a free pass to since it was under the same management.

Sarah, Tunisia, 26?, looks 7, attitude 6

Sarah had long frizzy black hair and a sexy figure with a face that was nice but not quite as good as her body. She said we could have sex on the sofa. I also asked if we could do cim and she said it was an extra 50 euros. This didn’t make me happy since I knew that it was 25 euros extra here (sessions were already 80 euros, more than in most other clubs) and sometimes it was free. So I said no way and she said ok how much. I said 25 and she said no, so I said forget it then and then she changed her mind right away and said ok. So it was fun, but she was professional about it. She kissed just enough I think so that I couldn’t say she didn’t do it.

Maria, Cz, 19?, looks 10, attitude 8

Maria was the gorgeous one. She was tall with long straight fluffy silky brown hair. She had a perfect athletic figure. She looked like a supermodel. She is one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen in a club in Germany. We went to the room and had straightforward sex, but she was so sexy it couldn’t have been better. She kissed, but not passionately. It didn’t matter. I was surprised how much of a difference it made to be with a girl like that hot.

I relaxed for a while, exploring the club (which doesn’t take long) and having a few drinks. I struck up a few conversations with other guys. One asked me where I worked an I said I didn’t want to say because my employer would be unhappy if he knew I was there. He pointed across the room and said “I don’t have that problem; that’s my boss over there.”

Gina, Thailand, 24?, looks 7, attitude 10

Gina was probably the only girl left that I was interested in. She was a tiny skinny Thai girl with typical straight black hair down to her shoulders and a flat chest. We started kissing and decided to stay in the main room where we went at it for quite a while. I didn’t finish, but still it was nice. She was totally friendly and passionate and did everything I wanted. I liked her, but when it was over I thought I had done the club for that night, so I went to Sudbad in Koln.

Sudbad

St. Augustine had just closed and it was on the way to Sudbad, so I drove past just to take a look and verify with my own eyes that it was indeed gone forever. When I arrived at Sudbad, I recognized the woman at the desk who had worked at St. Augustine and we smiled at each other. I wondered if maybe I had found it again at a new location. The club was small, but opulent, with red velvet everywhere including on the bar and on the big plush sofas, and with roman columns and statues. There was a bed right in the main room next to the bar.

Anita, Hungary, 22?, looks 8, attitude 6

I even recognized some of the girls from SA. (I had also noticed a couple at Berndt’s too.) There was also a nice new Hungarian girl named Anita, who had straight shiny reddish brown shoulder length hair. We did it on one of the big red sofas in front of the public bed. It was fine, with some kissing, but after all the sex I had had at Berndt’s I couldn’t finish, and she seemed impatient to get rid of me.

There was another nice girl with frizzy black hair that covered her shoulders. She told me before we started that normally she would do bbbj and kiss me, but she couldn’t then because she had some infection or other problem with her mouth. I thanked her for being honest and said that I would see her another day when she could give me 100 percent.

Catalyst

07-06-06, 06:10

Gentlemen,

Here is another historical report on several clubs, including Babylon. I have two more historical reports on Germany, which I will post here since this branch is not very active. This will minimize the distractions from current reporting on other branches.

Jackyo

07-06-06, 11:54

.. but she grew up in the Ruhr somewhere so her German is very good. She is blonde, petite, with large real tits. She has a beautiful pussy with large lips. Very wet.

She was there the last time I was there (the time I was double billed and swore I'd never go back).

There is another blonde, Laura. She is German, tall, thin, small tits. She is a Rheinlander who used to work as a hairdresser until she became allergic to the chemicals and decided to change professions. She also has very large pussy lips. Very wet too.

The last time I was there, they were part of their first team.

The other women were kind of recognizable but obviously didn't make enough of an impression on me.

Shirina, unfortunately, has retired and now works as a Thenkenfrau.

I've had good times at this club but unless I read reports about it changing, I'm staying away. That double billing episode left a very sour taste in my mouth.

Catalyst

07-07-06, 00:08

This was a one day only trip to Babylon and Beverly. This is mostly a blow by blow account without so many jokes or stories, but I might as well post the full set of reports:
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Babylon

I only had one day in Germany on this trip and I wanted to try Beverly. So I thought I would get started early with a visit to Babylon, which is nearby and is more of a daytime club, so the two visits would complement each other nicely. When I arrived the selection was not great, particularly compared with the larger clubs that I had gotten used to. Feeling tired and jet lagged I sat around for a couple of hours.

There was a gorgeous blonde girl and a nice girl with short wavy brown hair. I asked the beautiful blonde if we could do it on the circular bed in the center of the room and she said no. I waited and then went over to the nice brown haired girl. She was lying on a sofa segment that jutted into the center of the room and I asked her if we could do it there. She said yes.

Stella, Croatian, 21?, looks 7, attitude 7

We had a nice round right there in the main room. There weren’t many people around, though, since they had mostly gone to rooms together. That was fine because after a long time going at it we did a nice cim that maybe she wouldn’t have wanted to do if the room was full. She said she was going to shower and would come talk with me afterwards, but I didn’t see her after that.

Laura, German, 20? looks 9, attitude 8

After having done it in the main room I was willing to compromise with the gorgeous blonde. She had very long straight soft silky hair and was tall and slinky. We went downstairs by the fireplace. She was warm and friendly and she was so hot that I came in about two minutes. I joked with her about how long I took with poor Stella.

Li, Philippines, 25?, looks 6, attitude 8

I wanted to do one more round before going. There was a thin girl with frizzy black hair who wasn’t bad, but she was with a guy just hanging out, not even going to the room, so I gave up. I picked a nice Philippine girl who was not bad and would have been great except that she was a little heavy. We did it on the circular sofa in the middle of the room. Once we got going I looked up and the guy and the frizzy black haired girl were doing it on the sofa right in front of us, and right next to them Stella was going at it with another guy. Li looked up at me with a smile and said “it’s nice, isn’t it?” After a long round with her I finished in her mouth and then hurried up to go to Beverly.

Beverly

The club is in the middle of nowhere, but it is at the end of a long winding road and there aren’t many wrong turns you can make. I had to buy a pair of their black underwear since I didn’t have anything appropriate of my own to wear. I wandered around and after a long while I saw a nice black haired girl and an ok blonde doing a couple of guys. I was envying the guy with the black haired girl when the blonde invited me over and started blowing me. But I wasn’t really into her and when the black haired girl finished with her guy she looked at me and at the risk of being rude I switched to her. At first I thought these were regular girls, but now it think it is more likely they were being paid, so I don’t feel bad about dumping the blonde.

After that I was pretty worn out. I went to the dance floor and got into a suggestive dance with a tall girl with long frizzy black hair who didn’t look bad, but I didn’t pursue her. If I were feeling more energetic I would have, but I didn’t want to get started and then have to lamely explain in broken German that I’m sorry, but you are my fifth girl tonight, so it’s not your fault, but etc ... So I hung out a little longer and then left.

Catalyst

07-07-06, 00:21

Janaka

This day I knew what I wanted. I went straight to Janaka and had another great time with her. I thought of taking her up on her offer of inviting another girl, but there weren’t any girls I had been with that were good enough to pair up with her, and I had run into some duds and didn’t want to risk a 200 euro or more session on an untested girl. I was feeling worn out after three days and I knew I could take my time with Janaka, but another girl might start whining that I was taking too long. Plus I could do it with Janaka in the main room.

We did it on the sofa against the back wall of the main room by the entrance to the kino. I especially remember doing reverse cowgirl with her while she twisted around to kiss me. Afterwards we went back to the kino for cim and more conversation. It was another great session which might or might not have been more than a half hour. I’m sure she wouldn’t have said anything if I had only paid her for a half hour plus cim but I gave her 150 again anyway.

Ileana, 27, German , looks 7, attitude 4

I probably should have done Janaka again, but I was feeling limp and I didn’t want to be struggling to finish with her. I knew that she would put in a huge effort and probably make me cum in her mouth. Then I’d end up spending another 150 euros, and my costs were already out of control for these three days. There were still some cute girls that I hadn’t yet gotten to even if they weren’t as cute as her.

Ileana said she’d do it in the main room near the reception, but then was argumentative about it after we started. We went to the sofa which was hidden by the plants in the back and after a short bj she sat on me facing me. But she kept demanding to know why I wanted to do it there; meanwhile she wouldn’t kiss, so it wasn’t that great anyway. She wasn’t enjoying it, no one could see us anyway, and even if they could they would see only the lukewarm spectacle of a poor punter being given a difficult time by a whiny girl. I thought maybe she would warm up in the private room, so I gave in.

Well, it didn’t get any better. We went to one of the rooms by the pool and she was very thorough about making sure the entryway was sealed off tight so no one could catch the smallest glimpse inside no matter how hard they tried. There wasn’t anything exciting happening that anyone would care to see anyway, but she knew I liked doing it in public, so I think she needed to eliminate any possibility of anyone catching a passing glance at two heads or a bobbing back because her goal was to prevent me from deriving any enjoyment at all from the session. She still wouldn’t kiss, and we were in more of a hurry than before. I thought getting started again would make it last longer, but it didn’t. Even though it was lousy I popped since this was my last session. I regretted not having seen Janaka.

Maybe I should have saved that pop and gone one more time with Janaka, but money was getting to be a concern. After finishing with Ileana I even considered doing a 50 euro session with Janaka just cuddling, not having sex. I left on the early side, in time for dinner. I was worn out and wanted to try relaxing at the end of my last day and reflecting on the good times I had had instead of cramming the maximum amount of sex into every single day. It was a nice way to end my trip for a change, but I think I prefer the usual strategy.

Catalyst

07-07-06, 00:23

I arrived around lunch time, before many of the girls had showed up. I remember first noticing Janaka in the warm sunshine when they served the barbecue outside in the garden. She is a cross between a California girl and the girl next door. She is small with sandy blonde hair, a few freckles, a shy smile, and an absolutely perfect athletic killer body. I got something to eat and made a mental note to give her something to put in her mouth after she was done eating and there was more room in it.

Janaka, 22, Poland, looks 10, attitude 10

After a snack and some wandering around I went inside to look for action. She showed a half hour later and sat on one of the sofas in the main room near the bar. I was nervous that I would freak her out, but I asked if we could do it right there on the couch. She asked if we could go to the couch against the far wall in the back of the room and I said fine. We were hidden by the ferns that divided the room, but we were still visible to anyone who came back there or who sat by the wall in the main area.

She was wonderful and sweet. She kissed nicely, and everything was hot and real. As I started building to a climax I asked if I could finish in her mouth and she said sure. She was so beautiful and this was so perfect. I wanted it to be just right. I was like a nervous bride on her wedding night. I pulled out and made a mess all over her mouth and tits and she did nice cleanup afterwards. It was amazing.

Looking back, I’m not sure why I went with anyone else after that. I wanted variety and wondered what other fantastic women I might meet if my luck could be this good, or maybe I didn’t think I had another big pop in me and I didn’t want to struggle to finish with this supermodel; I wanted to save her for when I was fully charged.

Leticia, 23, German, looks 7, attitude 5

So I tried Leticia. She had a voluptuous slutty busty Anna Nicole Smith look. She had thick wavy black hair and a bit of extra fat, though it was all in the right places. I was wary when she told me she was German. She didn’t want to do it in public and the rooms inside were all too hot because of the weather, so we went to one of the cabins outside.

She started with a PowerPoint presentation. She explained to me that sex costs 50 euros, but it is possible to upgrade with additional services, including cumming in her mouth. Cumming in her mouth costs an additional 50 euros. If I want to cum in her mouth I have to decide now. Did I want to cum in her mouth?

I said no and got ready for the mechanized experience that I knew was about to take place. The sex was as commercial as her presentation. There was no kissing and it was unemotional. I could tell that I wasn’t going to finish quickly and after a short while I decided to stretch it out and get my money’s worth. Also, since I am no longer 18 years old, I decided not to waste any valuable cum inside her that I could instead deposit all over the mouth of some more willing and beautiful girl.

When it was over I didn’t complain, but I was cool. She asked me if I was dissatisfied and I said no. She looked at me nervously and said that she had the feeling that I didn’t enjoy it. Maybe she was just worried that I was going to complain to the manager or trash her on the internet, but I was hopeful that she was genuinely surprised and disappointed that I didn’t like it.

So I told her I had a suggestion for her. I told her that if you tell a guy “here’s how it works. Sex costs 50 euros, but it is possible to upgrade with additional services, including cumming in my mouth. Cumming in my mouth costs an additional 50 euros. If you want to cum in my mouth you have to decide now. Do you want to cum in my mouth?” he will say “no” ... If you tell a guy [spoken softly, touching her arm] “ ... I love you ...” he’ll say “can I cum in your mouth? I’ll give you an extra 50 euros!”

So I rested for a while, had a bit to eat, and got back to business.

Janaka (again)

After a bad session I wanted a sure thing, so I went back to Janaka. She was happy to do it in public again, but she wanted to go into the second main room with the dancing pole since there weren’t as many people there. We sat on the sofa in the center of the room, directly in front of the dancing pole. We chatted, kissed, fondled, and did oral sex on each other. She put a condom on me and just as she sat on me in cowgirl the show started. The room went dark, the music suddenly blared, the strobe light came on, and a girl came out and started dancing right in front of us as people streamed into the room. The dancing girl wasn’t very cute, but we were right in front of her and everyone was watching us; we were the real show (or at least Janaka was). So moving to a more secluded area to have more privacy didn't work out so well for Janaka, but I thought it was great.

We had a great time in different positions and again I wanted to finish in her mouth. But blasting all over her tongue in front of a room full of people seemed like it might be pushing it. If you have hot sex with a girl in front of everyone that is great publicity for her, but some guys get turned off if they see you finish in her mouth because they don’t want to kiss it after that. So I suggested we finish in the kino and she agreed. In the kino she went wild on me. I was still worn out so I was having trouble finishing and even suggested giving up, but she would have none of it. She blew me and blew me and finally I came all over her mouth. We talked a bit without her cleaning up, and then she blew me some more.

We stayed and talked. She thought being at the club was just work most of the time, though once in a while it was fun. She said it was a problem between her and her boyfriend. I asked her if it was hard for her when she went home to her boyfriend and had been having sex all day and now he wanted sex too and she said no, more sex was always good. We both agreed that the porno videos that the club showed – blurry bargain basement films with ugly ageing women swinging droopy grapefruit-sized blobs of silicone at fat middle-aged men grunting and sweating while having awkward and crass anal sex – were distasteful and it was incomprehensible that a club that spent so much on its facilities would show such disregard for everyone’s sensibilities to save a few euros on DVDs. I asked her if she liked having sex with two girls and she said yes, then smiled and stuck out her tongue and wiggled it. When she said it was time to go we had probably been together for more than an hour, though she never mentioned extra time or extra money. I gave her 150 and she seemed quite happy.

Stephania (again)

I had experimented with Leticia and regretted it, and not many girls would do it in the main room, so I went back to Stephania who had been pretty good the first time. But this time it was close to a rip off. Maybe it was more crowded, so she had more to gain by rushing me, or maybe she thought she could take advantage of me because I stopped the previous session without finishing. The bj lasted about thirty seconds and after about 5 minutes she was complaining that I was taking too long. I ended it pretty quickly without finishing. I regret not complaining that I wanted a full session. After that I was pissed off and had no intention of ever going back to her.

Katya, 23, Russia, looks 7, attitude 7

It was late and I was looking for one last round. Katya had the usual Russian look with very fluffy blow dried blonde hair. She didn’t have an hourglass figure, but she looked athletic and sexy. We did it on the sofa in the main room next to the entrance to the kino. She acted distracted and not really into it, but it was fine. Afterwards we chatted and she told me that she was there by herself with no friends or family. Her parents were divorced and it sounded like she was alone and had nowhere to go. It all sounded very sad, and I didn’t think she was playing it up to get sympathy. On the contrary she seemed reluctant to talk about it and I had to draw it out of her.

Catalyst

07-07-06, 00:26

I arrived at Oase early on a warm sunny afternoon eager to have sex in the main room in front of everyone, but wary about how the girls would react to the request. Pretty quickly girls started approaching me with come-ons, including a nice looking Estonian girl with black hair, but I turned her and a couple of other nice ones away. I wanted to start with public sex and I was going to turn down a girl who said no to the request. I figured the girl wouldn’t like this, would argue that I should take her to the room, and it might be hard to go back to her if I didn’t. So I didn’t start by asking the best girls. I started by asking girls that I could afford to turn down and risk offending if they said they would only go to the room.

Isabelle, 27?, Poland, looks 6, attitude 4

Isabelle fit that description. She was not bad looking, with wavy light brown hair and decent C cups. She came on with an aggressive sales pitch and agreed right away to the request. We got right down to rushed business. She kissed some, but wasn’t very warm. It was hot sex in front of everyone, though. At one point when we were going at it in reverse cowgirl the Estonian girl passed by and made some remark that I didn’t catch, but she was angry that I had picked someone else, someone who wasn’t even as good looking as her no less. Soon Isabelle started to complain about how long I was taking. It wasn’t superb so I decided that it would be better to save my load for someone better and I agreed to stop. Afterwards we were total strangers.

Now that I was warmed up my next target was a tall girl with short dark hair. I went and sat next to her and asked if she wanted to do it right there. She got excited and told me I was crazy, so I smiled and got up. But then she came over to me a minute later and told me that her friend would do it. Her friend was better looking than her anyway, so that was great.

Stephania, 20, Germany, looks 7, attitude 6

Stephania had a pretty face with long wavy dark blonde hair but a flat chest. We sat together on the sofa in the corner opposite the kino and the bar. She was very friendly and open, with good kissing. We started in cowgirl and then I put her down on the large red sofa and banged away. After going at it for a long time I told her that I didn’t know how long I was going to take and I wanted to see her again later, so I didn’t want to take too long and make her want to avoid me. So we stopped. She asked me to come to her before I saw other girls next time so I would finish with her and she would enjoy it more.

I went out to the garden and passed the Estonian girl sitting on one of the benches by the exit from the pool. She said she’d do me right there if I wanted. It actually sounded like a pretty good offer, but I wasn’t sure I wanted to try again right away after not finishing with Stephania, and maybe I was also put off by her tone, which was harsh, even angry.

A while later I saw her on the sofa in the main room near the bar. She was with an older guy and she got down in front of him to blow him. I sat on a sofa facing them and watched. It was slow and nice, with pauses to move up and dfk him. She periodically looked over at me and smiled, though I wasn’t sure if this was meant as a friendly sales pitch or a taunt. The guy had a huge idiotic smile on his face like he couldn’t believe what was happening. After 20 or 30 minutes I was sitting in the pole dance room when she peeked in. I got up to go ask her if she wanted to go with me, but she had already walked out. I followed her past the bar, past the pool, and into the garden. When I asked her if she was free she said sorry she was busy though she clearly wasn’t. She needed an attitude adjustment. In spite of being beautiful she didn't seem to be spending a lot of time in the rooms. I wonder what it was like with that older guy once he got to the room with her; did she turn to ice when I was no longer watching?

Sammy, 27, German-Hungarian, looks 7, attitude 6

I asked a few more girls to do it with me in the main room and didn’t have great luck. Sammy smiled with embarrassment when I asked but agreed. She had a thick but fit figure with neck length black hair and freckles. We sat together on a sofa against the wall dividing the room from the kino. It was disappointing that she wouldn’t kiss, but other than that major drawback she had a pretty good attitude. We did it for a long time before I decided that I couldn’t finish. Afterwards she would give me a big mischievous smile whenever we passed each other.

Jasmine, 22, German, looks 8, attitude 9

Jasmine was slightly overweight, but otherwise looked super sexy. She had a beautiful face with short straight golden hair. I sat with her and asked her if we could do it right there on the sofa and she said yes. She was great. After a long bj she sat on me and we went at it for a while in cowgirl before I laid her down on the big red sofa and got on top of her. The deep kissing was great. Unfortunately I still couldn’t finish and after a good while I called it quits.

Sunny, 20, German/Brazilian, looks 7, attitude 9

Sunny was small and thin with small but nice breasts. She had frizzy red hair that looked unnatural, particularly in combination with her olive toned skin. She wouldn’t do it in the main room with me, but she was fine with doing it in the kino. We sat on the sofa by the door where everyone could see us anyway except that it was darker than in the main room. We had nice sex with lots of kissing and different positions. We ended up with me on top of her and after several sessions without finishing I pulled out and exploded a whole day’s buildup all over her mouth, making a total porno mess all over her face and tits. It was great.

Catalyst

07-07-06, 00:28

The debate is now moot. Everything I've got on Germany has now been posted. The next report will be a current one. Hopefully it will be soon.

Just another reminder - these are not reposts of old reports. These are reports of old experiences, but I only wrote them up recently and this is the only time they have ever been posted.

I hope on balance people appreciated seeing them, that there weren't too many of them, and that the past has some lessons for the present. If I had it to do over I would post them all on one inactive thread for those who are interested without spreading them out and creating distractions on other threads.

Jackyo

11-26-06, 13:22

Since this thread isn't being used, let me describe post-coital time for those of you who never had a chance to visit Babylon in its heyday.

When I keep complaining about how service levels aren't what they used to be the disappearance of post-coital time is mostly what is lacking.

A session at Babylon back then had three parts: pre-session couch action, the session and post-coital time.

Pre-session couch time and the session in the room don't need to be described. At clubs these days the pre-session is just about disappearing but that is another topic.

After you had your session with your partner at Babylon, you both would leave the room to shower. When you made your way back into the Kontaktzimmer she would find you, ask you if you wanted something to drink, would bring it to you and with sit with you.

Depending on how well you got along with her in the room, she would either just sit and make chitchat and then eventually move or if your chemistry with her was really good, you could have fairly intensive contact with her.

If she found you entertaining and vice versa, and there was nothing going on in the club, these sessions extended your overall session.

I've given massages at post-coital sessions.

Sandra brought me chips once after a session and as we munched I redid her pubic hair coiffure and displayed the results to the rest of the room.

Some guys were real masters at making this post-coital session last and last. Sometimes guys forget that they are women and they like to be charmed and entertained too.

The post-coital session has totally disappeared. There are no clubs which offer it. Not even Bernds offers a post-coital session which is an equivalent.

I used to think it was a nice touch and it is what had me returning to Babylona and Wiago despite the highest prices per session in the country: 80 Euros for the first thirty minutes, 65 for the second thirty minutes.

These two clubs were required stops for every visit I ever made. But no longer.

Dedalus

11-26-06, 15:06

Jackyo

11-26-06, 15:26

[QUOTE=Dedalus]Ah, Nostalgia ain't what it use to be ;-)))

Cheers,

Dedalus[/QUOTE]

Before all of the buzz about clubs down in Hessen, the buzz used to be about the Red Carpets.. then it moved to Babylon and Wiago... then PHG was the rage... and then Atlantis (now defunct) and Oase were the place the be.. and there was even a time when Fantasyland (now defunct) was probably the best club in all of Germany.. then World opened up.

Clubs have their day and then something either better comes along or they have their missteps.

The only club which has been consistent through all of this whole time has been Bernds. And if anyone were to make a prediction, in thirty years Bernds will still be there.

Dick1

11-26-06, 16:26

Hey,

I will be around Frankfurt for Christmas (23.12-01.01)

Someone around?

I wonder if the FKK is open or if there is action in some sexy places.

Drop me a pm and we catch up.

Akibono

11-26-06, 21:12

[QUOTE=Jackyo]Since this thread isn't being used, let me describe post-coital time for those of you who never had a chance to visit Babylon in its heyday.

When I keep complaining about how service levels aren't what they used to be the disappearance of post-coital time is mostly what is lacking.

A session at Babylon back then had three parts: pre-session couch action, the session and post-coital time.

Pre-session couch time and the session in the room don't need to be described. At clubs these days the pre-session is just about disappearing but that is another topic.

After you had your session with your partner at Babylon, you both would leave the room to shower. When you made your way back into the Kontaktzimmer she would find you, ask you if you wanted something to drink, would bring it to you and with sit with you.

Depending on how well you got along with her in the room, she would either just sit and make chitchat and then eventually move or if your chemistry with her was really good, you could have fairly intensive contact with her.
QUOTE]

The reason PC time existed in the past was because many customers would use that time to relax and then start another session with the girl. It was in the girls interest to spend some time with you instead of hunt for another customer. I remember at Atlantis some guys would have multiple sessions with the same girls. There was a girl named Sia who had a boyfriend who would spend the entire evening with her. He would spend at least 400E each session. With that enducement, you can see why PC time exists. Now, it is more of a churn and burn atmosphere.

Jackyo

11-27-06, 13:14

[QUOTE=Dick1]Hey,

I will be around Frankfurt for Christmas (23.12-01.01)

Someone around?

I wonder if the FKK is open or if there is action in some sexy places.

[/QUOTE]
In answer to your question, this is what Devilinside had to say about Christmas and early January at the beginning of this year in answer to a similar question posted on the RF.

[quote=Devilinside] also in der weihnachtszeit, sowie zwischen den jahren, neujahr und meist auch noch in der ersten januarwoche ist doch wohl von jedem mit gesundem menschenverstand denkendem mann, zu erwarten dass er weiss dass auch in den grossclubs erheblich weniger frauen am arbeiten sind.
auch wenn es manche nicht glauben wollen, auch die meisten unserer mädels haben familie und wollen + sollen diese tage auch ausserhalb der so von uns geliebten clubs geniessen dürfen.
das wird sich auch die nächsten jahre nicht ändern.
__________________
Greetings.
Devilinside
:devil1
Mitglied der Stiftung Clubtest [/quote]

Summary: It is to be expected that at Christmas, between the years and the first week in January that there be fewer women working. Some of you might not believe it but most of these women have families and would prefer to spend that time outside of our beloved clubs.

Reports written on World at the end of last December also talked about how there were fewer women there than normally.

Jackyo

11-27-06, 13:52

There are two Ex-Babylon girls who I have run into at other clubs:

Samya: Pia, German, blonde, large tits, mollig. I remember her from back in 99 during my first visit there. I've also spotted her at Wiago. Very communicative. She has an attitude, can be extremely funny. An acquired taste though and probably too much for a newbie or non-German speaker. Typically ungeschminkt.

Bernds: Monika, Hungarian, dark hair, beauty spot near her lips (on her face! - forget which side), petite. The first time I saw her I thought she might have been Brazilian but she isn't. First seen at Wiago. Great service and attitude. Fitting into her is like finding the right glove size: nice, warm and cozy.

Jackyo

02-04-07, 23:09

This was my favorite club for the longest time.

I don't know whether this RF report is indicative of an upswing hence I put it in quotes from its author, 2sepp.

[quote=2sepp]

[Bericht] Babylon Elsdorf Positive Überraschung

Da es am Freitag im GT absolut zu voll war (nicht mehr lustig, unerträgliche Wartezeiten), bin ich mißmutig nach Köln zurück.
Also auf die A61 und nach langer Zeit nochmal im Babylon in Elsdorf vorbeigeschaut.
Erste Überraschung schon am Eintritt. JAQUELINE + Claudia, die Besten und lustigsten Thekenfrauen der Welt sind wieder da. Scheinbar ist auch Maggi, die den Club in seinen besten Zeiten geführt hat, wieder da.
Zweite Überraschung beim Eintritt in den Club: nachdem in letzter Zeit das Niveau des ehedem Besten Clubs im Großraum Köln doch etwas angegraut und abgesunken war, erblicken meine Äuglein nun eine auf mindestens 10-12 geschätzte Zahl wunderschöner Mädels, darunter einige ganz besondere Schüsse... Es muß wohl vor kurzer Zeit einen Besitzerwechsel gegeben haben...Superstimmung, gutes Essen. Superservice meiner beiden Mädels (50 €). Preis ok. Die sind auf dem richtigen Weg zu alter Pracht. Mein Abend war mehr als gerettet!! EMPFEHLENSWERT!!!! [/quote]

Fazit: Jacqueline and Claudia (I know exactly who these two are) are back and apparently, Maggi, the former owner is back. There were from ten to twelve stunners there. He speculates that it has to do with the change in ownership. The Stimmung was great, so was the food. Pricing was 50 Euros per session. He highly recommends this.

(I should note that this dude doesn't have many posts under his belt - don't know if this means anything but credibility is everything.)

Chicafan

02-19-07, 17:07

[QUOTE=Jackyo]This was my favorite club for the longest time.

I don't know whether this RF report is indicative of an upswing hence I put it in quotes from its author, 2sepp.

(I should note that this dude doesn't have many posts under his belt - don't know if this means anything but credibility is everything.)[/QUOTE]I'm still trying to figure out exactly where to go on my next trip and just read this review. I wish it were closer to the Frankfurt area because it fits with my plans but I could easily spend some extra time up by Koln if this club was really outstanding. You posted this on 2/4 and I guess it came from a German board? If this club was that good wouldn't there be some other posts since then confirming? If you happen to see anything else on it please post it.

Thanks.

Jackyo

02-20-07, 10:59

[QUOTE=Chicafan]I'm still trying to figure out exactly where to go on my next trip and just read this review. I wish it were closer to the Frankfurt area because it fits with my plans but I could easily spend some extra time up by Koln if this club was really outstanding. You posted this on 2/4 and I guess it came from a German board? If this club was that good wouldn't there be some other posts since then confirming? If you happen to see anything else on it please post it.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]
... are, however, not to be found.

This club was The Club, IMHO, for a while as it had a very well edited selection of women.

I'll just mention one name here: Nina. I've not met a woman since who has even come close in both physical beauty and in attitude.

It has had its problems: allegations of drug use amongst the women. An underage minor was found working there and it was closed for a while. Its ownership situation has been murky.

I always made it a point to go even despite the fact that it charged the highest per session rates around (85 Euros for the first session) because I always left satistifed. Service was very, very good - comparable to Bernds - and the women were always very attractive.

What changed things for me was being double billed once. I paid but I don't put these things aside and I am taking my revenge by not returning.

Dedalus

02-20-07, 12:21

[QUOTE=Jackyo]
I'll just mention one name here: Nina. I've not met a woman since who has even come close in both physical beauty and in attitude.
[/QUOTE]

Yep, Those were the days. That young lady caused me to put many extra Kilometers on my vehicle and drain a number of D-Mark from my bank account.
Truly one that is missed. Many have come close and a few have even equaled her at times. But with all due respect to Cindy, Marina, Maria, Inna and Daniela, none have surpassed her.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Hamboner

02-20-07, 18:33

After driving to Monchengladbach in the early AM, I tried unsuccessfully to find FKK Babylon in Elsdorf. I ended up getting lost and with no GPS I was losing valuable time. So I headed towards Dusseldorf with no address hoping to find either La Bedo or Sauna Blue Note. After getting lost in the city, I ended up paying a taxi driver to drive towards Blue Note since he didn't know where La Bedo was. See my report on Blue Note.

Anyways, if someone gets a chance please do report on FKK Bablylon since I couldn't find the target. Website is at babylon-fkk.de

Jackyo

02-21-07, 10:27

[QUOTE=Hamboner]Anyways, if someone gets a chance please do report on FKK Bablylon since I couldn't find the target. Website is at babylon-fkk.de[/QUOTE]
... to get an update too though it will take a lot to convince me that its worth returning.

This club is quite easy to find.

You come off the highway, pass under it and up on the left is a sign "Gewerbegebiet". Make a left and at the traffic circle take the first right. At the next traffic circle make a left and you will be on their street, Ost Strasse. Its a house on the left towards the end of the street.

Jackyo

03-26-07, 11:29

I was reading somewhere that there has been a(nother?) change in management.

http://www.privatclub-babylon.de/

They've renovated the site and have photos of some of the girls.

The only one I have been with is Laura: blonde, German from Olpe (if I remember correctly).

She is tall, has hardly any curves and small tits.

She has very large Schamlippen. I also remember her being very wet and creamy.

Travelforfun

03-26-07, 17:12

Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote and Wiago?

Travelforfun

03-26-07, 17:15

Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote , Labedo and Wiago?

Jackyo

03-27-07, 02:44

[QUOTE=Sesameking]Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote , Labedo and Wiago?[/QUOTE]
.. I was asking myself too when I saw her photo.

I would like to know myself!

Travelforfun

04-02-07, 15:28

Can anyone give the price structure for the place and also guide how to reach the place by public transport from Koln or Dusseldorf.

Marlow

04-02-07, 22:08

It's not easy to get too by public transport. When you do you will find a whole new set up. For example this Wednesday they have a GB party for 50 euros, that's after you've paid the 50 euro entry. Thursday is hunt the bunny day and entrance is reduced to 30 euros, free for anyone who turns up in something resembling a bunny costume (pair of ears?). New or rather revitalised management makes the place worth thinking about again. They have a totally new website as Jackyo points out. Normal price is entrance 50euro, standard once around the block 50euros. the site tells you what the girls will do as extras. My advice is to ring the number on the site, as the lady who runs it probably speaks English.

Jackyo

04-02-07, 23:48

[QUOTE=Marlow]It's not easy to get too by public transport. When you do you will find a whole new set up. For example this Wednesday they have a GB party for 50 euros, that's after you've paid the 50 euro entry. Thursday is hunt the bunny day and entrance is reduced to 30 euros, free for anyone who turns up in something resembling a bunny costume (pair of ears?). New or rather revitalised management makes the place worth thinking about again. They have a totally new website as Jackyo points out. Normal price is entrance 50euro, standard once around the block 50euros. the site tells you what the girls will do as extras. My advice is to ring the number on the site, as the lady who runs it probably speaks English.[/QUOTE]
.... and then let us know how it is these days.

Jacqueline is normally the woman who takes your entrance fee at the door.

If not, Shirina does. She used to work the other side of the counter, now has changed sides.

I have a friend who gets very weak in the knees when you mention Shirina's name.

She was (and still probably is) very, very good though it may take some doing to convince her to change her job description. She has officially retired.

Toscana

04-03-07, 09:19

[QUOTE=Marlow]Thursday is hunt the bunny day and entrance is reduced to 30 euros, free for anyone who turns up in something resembling a bunny costume (pair of ears?).[/QUOTE]
Those ISG pink bunny slippers should come in just fine once more.

Jackyo

04-03-07, 11:25

[QUOTE=Sesameking]Can anyone give the price structure for the place and also guide how to reach the place by public transport from Koln or Dusseldorf.[/QUOTE]
.. from Koeln or Duesseldorf is rather difficult.

I looked into it since I used to visit very often.

Details on transport are available on the Verkehrsverband Rhein-Ruhr website:

www.vrr.de

There is a bus which takes you to Elsdorf but I've never figured out which bus stop to get off at. Worse comes to worse, get off at the Stadtmitte and take a cab.

Travelforfun

04-03-07, 12:59

Thanks guys.. hopefully will get time to visit the place later this month.

Prices seem a little higher as compared to my fav BN and Labedo but then again everything has a price and i hope the place justifies its price structure.

Jackyo

04-06-07, 11:03

This comes from Youppie and was written by Bou just yesterday.

[quote=Bou]suite à l'EV positive et les belles photos j'y suis passé vendredi dernier vers 19 h 30 - 20 H

Le club en soit est bien sans plus mais alors au niveau présence féminine collosal catastrophe : à l'arrivée 3 filles - à 20 h : plus que deux

J'ai attendu +/- 1 heure, le temps d'un sauna et d'un petit repas et ne voyant rien sortir de chambre ou arriver : j'ai demandé à la barmaid combien de filles fréquentait l'établissement

Elle m'a répondu un peu génée : ben pour le moment deux -il est un peu tard
normal vendredi 20 h alors que le club affiche une fermeture à 1 h du mat

Normallement en journée entre 6 - 10 filles

Fallait le savoir

Merci un coca svp et départ pour d'autres cieux[/quote]

Sommaire: He was there last Friday between 19:30 and 20:00. There weren't enough women. He waited more or less an hour, did the sauna, had something to eat. He asked the Thekenfrau how many women there were and she said only two. The club closes at 1 AM on Friday evenings. Normally there are between six to ten women. He left for greener pastures.

Jackyo

04-07-07, 11:23

[QUOTE=Sesameking]Can anyone confirm if the Liliana in Babylon is the same girl who worked in Bluenote , Labedo and Wiago?[/QUOTE]
.. works here.

This is from Teddybaer on the RF.

[quote=Teddybaer]Ansonsten kann ich aus eigener Erfahrung nur Lilijane und Melanie empfehlen.Mit beiden hatte ich im Wiago das Vergnügen.
Lilijane ist Ukrainerin ? mit aufgepeppter OW und geht sehr gut mit.[/quote]
He also recommends Melanie.

Coxswain

05-05-07, 06:03

This in response to query about public trnasport to babylon in elsdorf. This info is about 4 years old, from when Babyon was in its hey day.

Take train from Koeln HBF to Horrem (yes, that's really the name of the place)

When you get off the train, you will see another train parked in the distance to the north. Join the crowd of people who will be walking from one train to the other across an empty lot.

Get on the second train and get off at Elsdorf. Once I got to Elsdorf, I couldn't figure out how to do the rest by public transit, so I called a taxi.

NB: Before you leave the Horrem Station on your outbound journey, check the Abfahrt to learn the time that the last train leaves there for Koln in the evening. As I remember it was about 0030, but could be different know, otherwise you will pay an expensice cab fare back to Koeln.

On my return trips, I took a cab from the club to Horrem HBF and then the train back to Koeln.

Coxswain

Jackyo

05-06-07, 19:29

[QUOTE=Coxswain]This in response to query about public trnasport to babylon in elsdorf. This info is about 4 years old, from when Babyon was in its hey day.

Take train from Koeln HBF to Horrem (yes, that's really the name of the place)

When you get off the train, you will see another train parked in the distance to the north. Join the crowd of people who will be walking from one train to the other across an empty lot.

Get on the second train and get off at Elsdorf. Once I got to Elsdorf, I couldn't figure out how to do the rest by public transit, so I called a taxi.

NB: Before you leave the Horrem Station on your outbound journey, check the Abfahrt to learn the time that the last train leaves there for Koln in the evening. As I remember it was about 0030, but could be different know, otherwise you will pay an expensice cab fare back to Koeln.

On my return trips, I took a cab from the club to Horrem HBF and then the train back to Koeln.

Coxswain[/QUOTE]
Thanks CS!

I've pondered this topic for a while. I know there is a bus which goes to Elsdorf. What I've not figured out is which bus stop is the closest to Oststrasse.

I even went for a drive in the town once to try to figure this out but didn't conclude anything.

There is a Busbahnhof there. There is also an Arnoldusstrasse (or Schule) bus stop.

As this was my Stammclub for the longest time (and where I came across Nina), this club will always be on my watchlist.

Marlow

05-07-07, 12:21

Hope this is of some help to folks making the journey to Babylon in the hope of finding a cornucopia of delights, then go to their German page via freiermagazin.de. click on PLZ5 (postal district) and then on the club, and then the webpage in small type. Some great pictures taken by one Tom and the current dates of when which girls will be in the club and also what they do. Whether the club under the newly inspired management actually lives up to the promise of the webpage - let us all know, please.

Jackyo

05-07-07, 12:30

[QUOTE=Marlow]Hope this is of some help to folks making the journey to Babylon in the hope of finding a cornucopia of delights, then go to their German page via freiermagazin.de. click on PLZ5 (postal district) and then on the club, and then the webpage in small type. Some great pictures taken by one Tom and the current dates of when which girls will be in the club and also what they do. Whether the club under the newly inspired management actually lives up to the promise of the webpage - let us all know, please.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Marlow.

Those two photos are of Liliane.

Their website, by the way, is http://www.privatclub-babylon.de/

Laura and Verona are still there, I noted. Photos of Laura are available, none for Verona though.

And if anyone is interested in just how good Liliane is, here is a report from the RF by Ford Fairlane.

[quote=Ford Fairlane]Hallo,

durch zufall habe ich erfahren das Liliane nun im Babylon zu finden st, das liegt zwar nicht wirklich in miner Nähe aber Liliane war schon immer eine Reise wert.
Nun der Club selber ist nicht der schönste was die Einirichtung und aufteilung angeht....
Die an diesem Tag anzutreffendne Damen Mitte dieser Woche) waren zuerst nicht (für) mein Ding, ca 4 Damen im Hause.
Kann nicht sagen wer das war da ich nu wirklich keinerlei interesse an ihnen hatte...aber nach ca 30 min erschien Liliane auf der Bildfläche. Also nicht lange gefackelt sondern gleich zu ihr auf das Sofa... wir haben uns kurz unterhalten (2min) da setzte sie sich auf mich und dann gab es wunderbare feuchte ZK, sie zog ihr Oberteil aus und lies mich an ihren Titten saugen und stöhnte nett dabei, dann ging sie auf die Knie und fing an heftigst, tief und feucht im Clubraum an zu blasen...ich dacht oh-ha einfach so vor allen Leuten...aber was soll ich sagen es war einfach zu geil...nachdem sie meinen Kumpel mit dem Mund so richtig nett verwöhnt hatte gabe es noch eine feine spanisch einlage von ihr und war kurz vorm platzen...sie griff zu ihrer Tasche und ich dacht es geht aufs Zimmer, falsch, sie zog mir ein Gummi über und ritt mich mit allem was ging, sie stöhnte, sie verbog sich, streckte sich um nach 10 min laut stöhnend zu kommen (keine Ahnung ob das echt war, aber es war sehr geil)...als sie sah das ich noch nicht soweit war meinte sie nur was sei sie doch für eine Schlampe nahm mich mit und sorgte rittlings auf dem Zimmer für eine erste entspannung meinerseits.
Nach einer kurzen Pause fing sie wieder an zu blasen, wieder sehr tief und feucht, sie leckte alles was ihr vor die Zunge kam, sie massierte mich anal und blies dabei bis ich nochmal kam....wow...was für eine Stunde..

Fazit: Der Club gefällt nicht aber die performance von Liliane...wahnsinn. Laut der Homepage arbeiten dort noch mehr sehr nette Mädels, von denen war aber leider niemand vor Ort. [/quote]
Fazit: There were about four other women there but Liliane was the reason why he had gone to the club. They talk for a couple of minutes and then they have couch action. She gives him a BJ on the couch and reaches for her bag. He thinks its because they are going to a room but no, she puts a rubber on his dick and rides him on the couch for ten minutes in front of everyone until she comes (he has no idea if it was for real but it was really sexy) and only after that did they go to a room to take care of his release. He isn't a fan of the club facilities or the way its set up (I think its perfectly fine. I first visited in 99 when they used to have a pool downstairs). The website shows some really nice women but apparently the selection on that day wasn't his thing.

In my experience, there aren't many clubs where the women will just ride you right there on the couch in full view of everyone else. I've seen (and experienced it) at Babylon, Bernds and a couple of Red Carpet clubs.

Marlow

05-08-07, 09:20

Jackyo
the sting is in the tail of Ford's report, namely that none of the girls listed on the website (outside the one he had) were there. With some searching through the Freiermagazin site I did come across photos of Verona at another club. I suspect there's a link up between Freiermagazin and Babylon in terms of ownership or partnership.

Jackyo

05-08-07, 20:21

[QUOTE=Marlow]Jackyo
the sting is in the tail of Ford's report, namely that none of the girls listed on the website (outside the one he had) were there. With some searching through the Freiermagazin site I did come across photos of Verona at another club. I suspect there's a link up between Freiermagazin and Babylon in terms of ownership or partnership.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like they play "bait and switch" here.

I'll keep a look out for further reports on how things are.

I spent many whole days here observing female flesh, learning about female anatomy and the niceties of FKK club etiquette (yes, there is such a thing).

Would be nice if this club would make a comeback.

Jackyo

05-11-07, 08:01

This is from Flahute on the RF.

He was there on Wednesday and then again on Thursday.

So many of these reports to read, so little time particularly to do translations.

[quote=Flahute][Bericht] Meine Premiere im Babylon, Mi. + Do.

Liliana, Sie ist oder war der Grund für meinen Erstbesuch im Babylon.

Letzte Woche schaute ich mir die Homepage an und sehe Ihre Fotos.
Die Frau hat ein bildhübsches Gesicht, ich suche ob ich Berichte über Sie finde und werde auch sehr schnell fündig.
Sie hat schon einige Stationen hinter sich und stets wurde Ihr Service gelobt.

Okay, dann erweitere ich mal meinen Horizont und plane in bälde einen
Ausflug nach Elsdorf. Das sind von mir leider 125 km.

Diese Woche Dienstag schaue ich noch mal auch die HP des Clubs und sehe die Neuzugänge Estefania und Domenica.
Bildhübsche Frauen die das Herz eines Optikfixierten Paysex Konsumenten
wie ich es nun mal einer bin höher schlagen lassen.

Mittwoch habe ich Zeit, Liliana und Domenica sollen anwesend sein.

Die Homepage ist im übrigen sehr schön gestaltet, Informativ und mit einer tagesaktuellen Anwesenheitsliste ausgestattet.
Die Mädchen sind zum aller größten teil mit Fotos
vertreten und Ihr Servicespektrum wird ebenfalls gelistet.
Am Mittwoch vergewissere ich mich um 13.30 Uhr telefonisch ob Liliana und Domenica auch tatsächlich anwesend sind.
Yes Sir, Sie sind da. Schön, dann kann’s ja losgehen.

Im Hinterhof geparkt und dann um Einlass gebeten. Mir wurde geöffnet und ich outete mich als Erstbesucher. Nachdem ich das Startgeld, man nennt es auch Eintritt, in Höhe von € 50,- abgedrückt hatte wurde mir von einem Mädchen der Club gezeigt.
Vorher entledigte ich mich allerdings in der Umkleide meiner Alltagsklamotten, sperrte diese in den Spind und band mir ein Handtuch um meine Hüften.

Unten, wo die Umkleide ist, sind auch 2 Saunen, eine Dusche mehre Sofas und Couchen und es geht zur Terrasse die bei gutem Wetter genutzt werden kann. Zu diesem Zeitpunkt war unten allerdings nur leere. Wie ich spä*** feststellen konnte spielte sich, zumindest an diesem Tag, fast alles eine Etage höher ab.

Dort hin ging es dann. Ein großer Tisch mit mehreren Stühlen, demgegenüber das Essen, eine Bar und eine große Sitzlandlandschaft in U Form und inmitten eine Liegestätte wo ich auch sogleich die erste öffentliche Action in Augenschein nehmen konnte. Ganz oben sind die Zimmer und auch noch Duschgelegenheiten.

So, nachdem ich nun die Räumlichkeiten kennen gelernt habe bestelle ich erstmal ein Wasser.Alkoholfreie Getränke sind im Eintrittspreis inkludiert, Bier kostet € 3,- extra.
Ich suche mir einen Platz in der großen Sitzgruppe und erkenne auch sogleich Liliana. Die Frau stahlt eine Erotik aus, klasse. Leider ist Sie bereits mit einem Handtuchträger beschäftigt. Ich schaue mir das mal an, aber dieser Gast bevorzugt die Abgeschiedenheit eines Zimmers und so entschwinden die beiden. Mir ist allerdings bereits vorher ein anderes Mädchen aufgefallen. Blonde, schulterlange Haare, blaue Augen und ein sehr hübsches, natürliches, unverbrauchtes Gesicht. Ich setze mich zu mir, Sie heißt Nora.

Ein bisschen Small Talk, Sie lacht sehr gerne und hat schöne weiße Zähne.
Wir kommen uns näher, erste Küsse. Ich streichle über Ihren Körper.
Nora ist nicht gertenschlank, aber alles fest. Ihre Ausstrahlung und Ihr Gesicht
haben es mir angetan. Ihre Hand wandert unter mein Handtuch und es dauert nicht lang da kniet Sie vor mir und verwöhnt mich mit ihrem Mund.
Das macht Sie richtig gut, Sie fährt mit Ihrer Zunge meinem Schwanz entlang und schaut mich dabei mit Ihren blauen Augen an. Ich finde es mal geil mich so auf der Couch verwöhnen zu lassen, zumal Nora wirklich weiß was Mann gut tut.

Irgendwann ist aber der Punkt erreicht wo ich Ihr sage das ich gerne mit Ihr auf’s Zimmer gehen möchte.

Nora sagte mir vorher das Sie erst seit einigen Tagen im Paysex aktiv ist, wie mir schien hat Sie vorher aber schon Intensiv privat geübt.

Ich binde mir mein Handtuch um, was aber ziemlich ausgebeult ist. Wir gehen die Treppe hoch in eines der Zimmer. Das Zimmer ist durch eine Wand geteilt die an der Seite einen etwa 1 Meter breiten Durchgang hat. Neugierig wie ich nun mal bin schaue ich erstmal was auf der anderen Seite so los ist, da ist aber scheinbar gerade Halbzeit.

Wir beginnen da wo wir auch bereits unten begonnen haben.
Eine detailierte Schilderung erspare ich mir mal,
schließlich wisst Ihr ja alle selbst wie’s geht.
Nora hat sicht und hörbar Spaß am Sex und das kommt sehr authentisch rüber.Sie ist sehr fordernd, Küsst Intensiv und gut, lässt sich lecken und fingern.Beim Verkehr hält Nora sehr gut dagegen und ist wie bereits geschrieben fordernd und auch nicht die leiseste. Ich war hochzufrieden mit meiner Wahl.

Nach dem Duschen habe ich mich erstmal in die Sitzlandschaft begeben, was getrunken und mich ein bisschen umgeschaut. Mittlerweile waren ca. 7-10 Dreibeiner im Haus. Und es waren auch etwa 10 Mädchen da. Mir besonders gefallen hat neben Liliana und Nora auch Laura. Sie hat einen schönen Hardbody und ein Gesicht das mich ein wenig an eine ex Kollegin erinnert. Dann kam Domenica rein, so einen Body sieht man extrem selten. Sie setzt sich auf die mir gegenüberliegende Seite und schaut zu mir rüber. Wir halten die Blicke ein paar Sekunden, Sie lächelt – ich gehe zu Ihr.

Geschafft, gut das mir keiner der 3 anderen Gäste, die noch dort saßen, zuvor gekommen ist. Manchmal muss man halt warten, und manchmal schnell sein. Wir stellen uns vor, Sie kommt aus Polen und spricht außer Ihrer Heimatsprache noch Englisch aber kein Deutsch. Wir unterhalten uns und ich merke schnell dass die verhinderte Miss Polen ein sehr nettes, offenes Mädchen ist. Sie ist erst vor 2 Tagen aus Polen gekommen und dies ist Ihr erster Job im Paysex.

Wir suchen uns ein Zimmer. Und schon nach ein paar Minuten bin ich mir sicher das heute mein Glückstag ist. Mit Domenica habe ich GF6 at his best, mit dem Unterschied das ich leider noch nie eine Freundin mit einem solchen Body hatte. Langes küssen und streicheln, erkunden der Körper. Sie ist unprofessionell im allerbesten Sinne. Weitere Details erspare ich mir – Ihr wisst ja wie’s geht.

Domenica bleibt vorerst nur bis Samstag und geht dann zurück nach Polen.
Nach jetzigem Stand hat Sie allerdings vor dann zurück zu kommen.

Nach Domenica wollte ich nicht noch mal auf’s Zimmer und so sparte ich
mir Liliane für einen weiteren Besuch auf. Liliane ist übrigens, jedenfalls habe ich das am Mittwoch so erlebt, stark frequentiert.
Noch ein Saunagang absolviert, was gegessen und dann ging es auch wieder Richtung Heimat.

Am Donnerstag entschließe ich mich kurzfristig die am Vortag entfallene Session mit Liliane nachzuholen. Schließlich habe ich ansonsten in der Woche nicht oft die Gelegenheit dazu.

Okay, den Weg kenn ich ja jetzt.
Im Kontaktraum angetroffen sah ich zunächst weder Liliane, noch Domenica oder Nora.Dafür traf ich einen Gast den ich vom Gesicht her aus einem Kölner Club kenne. Ich setzte mich zu Ihm an die Bar und wir plauderten ein bisschen. Schnell stellte ich fest das er einen ähnlichen Geschmack wie ich hat. Er wartete auf Domenica, die wie die anderen beiden Ladys auf dem Zimmer war. Nun, ich hätte auch sehr gerne das gestrige Erlebiss mit Ihr aufgefrischt. Aber erstens war er schon länger da, zweitens hatte ich ja bereits das Vergnügen und dritten muss man auch gönne könne.
Dann kam Domenica rein und der Kollege war auch sofort bei Ihr.

Ich brauchte auch nicht mehr lange zu warten dann kam Liliane und nahm auf der großen Sitzlandschaft platz. Vom Vortag wusste ich noch das Sie stark frequentiert war und so zögerte ich nicht mich zu Ihr zu setzen. Ich schrieb bereits weiter oben das Sie eine Erotik ausstrahlt die einen Mann einfach faszinieren muss. Es dauerte nicht sehr lange bis zu ersten Berührungen und küssen. Zunächst zart dann Intensiver. Ihre Hand wandert zu meinem Schwanz und schenkt diesem die Freiheit. Doch nicht lange dann taucht er in Ihren Mund. Sie bläst herrlich und es ist eine Wonne Ihr dabei zuzusehen. Wir wechseln dann in ein Zimmer. Hier merke ich schnell das Liliane ein richtig geiles Luder ist (eigentlich wollte ich schreiben „richtig geile Sau“, aber das schreibt man doch nicht.)

Tiefe, feuchte ZK bis zu den Mandeln. Intensives Fingern und lecken.
Einen dermaßen nassen, variantenreichen und tiefen Blow Job wie Ihn auch Janice aus dem TP zelebriert. Bein ficken geht Liliane richtig mit, windet Ihren Körper. Es ist einfach geil mit Ihr.

Nach etwas relaxen gönne ich mir dann noch eine 2. Runde mit Nora.
Mit Ihr hat es mir gestern sehr gut gefallen und da Sie einen sehr fordernden Eindruck machte führte uns diesmal der Weg nicht in die obere Etage sondern nach unten.

Die Biosauna ist nicht besonders heiß aber es reicht,
die Sitzbänke sind mit rotem Kunstleder überzogen.

Wir ließen die Tür offen und breiten die Handtücher aus. Die Frau hat einfach Spaß am Sex, was ich gestern schon festgestellt hatte bestätigte sich wieder. Intensive Zungenspiele und während Sie meinen Schwanz mit Ihrem Mund verwöhnt fingere ich Sie. Durch die Hitze ist Sie sehr schnell feucht, ich stimmuliere Ihre Mumu und ficke Sie dann mit 2 Fingern. Nora gefällt das, wird Ihr Stöhnen doch lauter. Dann will ich endlich mit dem ganz dicken Finger rein. Sie streift mir das Gummi über und ich knie mich hinter Sie. Der Schweiß fließt bereits und so ergibt sich ein flutschiges Gefühl Haut auf Haut. Nach ein paar langsameren Stößen ficke ich Sie härter und heftiger. Nora stöhnt nun extrem laut. Noch eine Weile halte ich das durch und merke dann wie die Säfte zu steigen beginnen – und Abschuss.

Puuh, nach dem Duschen noch was gegessen und getrunken und dann vollends befriedigt auf den Heimweg gemacht.

Ist jetzt ein bisschen sehr lang geworden,
ich hoffe das niemand beim Lesen eingeschlafen ist.[/quote]

Fazit: to follow.

Marlow

05-13-07, 16:00

Briefly Flahute was a very busy boy. He had every wish fulfilled. Went there for Liliana and Domenica but first ended up with Nora. She admitted to him this was her first time in the pay sex industry but had been practicing a lot in private before coming to Babylon (Good girl that's what I like to hear - Marlow). He was blissfully happy with Nora and her noisy performance. Then came Domenica who is from Poland and spoke only English (polish of course), she too was a newbie in the pay sex game. She too was wonderful.
He decided to return on another day. Finally he made it with Lilana who rivalled anything he has had at Traumparadies (well boys, that is a recommendation of Michelin quality believe me - Marlow). Indeed he made a thorough pig of himself with this sex goddess. After drawing breath he gave Nora another right energetic going over in the bio sauna, before helping himself to a meal and trotting off home. There were ten women there and between seven and ten men.
Me thinks this man struck gold.....

Jackyo

05-14-07, 11:06

.. with the translation, Marlow!

There is so much stuff out there to read in German on this topic and I only have just so much time to do translations.

CBGBConnisur

05-20-07, 10:38

[QUOTE=Coxswain]This in response to query about public trnasport to babylon in elsdorf. This info is about 4 years old, from when Babyon was in its hey day.

Take train from Koeln HBF to Horrem (yes, that's really the name of the place)

When you get off the train, you will see another train parked in the distance to the north. Join the crowd of people who will be walking from one train to the other across an empty lot.

Get on the second train and get off at Elsdorf. Once I got to Elsdorf, I couldn't figure out how to do the rest by public transit, so I called a taxi.

NB: Before you leave the Horrem Station on your outbound journey, check the Abfahrt to learn the time that the last train leaves there for Koln in the evening. As I remember it was about 0030, but could be different know, otherwise you will pay an expensice cab fare back to Koeln.

On my return trips, I took a cab from the club to Horrem HBF and then the train back to Koeln.

Coxswain[/QUOTE]

It is also possible to take a train to Bergheim and then a taxi, that is slightly cheaper than taking one from Horrem. I visited this place in 05, has this club improved, it was top notch in 2001, I particularly remember this club because I met a beautiful Arab girl here and strangely enough we had sex on the 10th of September 2001.

Jackyo

05-20-07, 11:04

[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]Her name was Chanel, she is German Turkish, she also had an Arab friend named Shirina. I am not kidding that I would give a lot of money just to say hello to her again.[/QUOTE]
She was amazing and I would definitely do her again if someone can figure out where she now works (if she is still working). She had an amazing all-over tan, nice figure, tits and legs.

She was one of those girls who had absolutely no inhibitions, would impale herself on you right there on the couch in full view of everyone else.

I associate certain women with certain songs. I don't know about the rest of you but I pay attention to the German pop songs playing in the background at these clubs (you spend so much time just hanging out and listening to the music, so why not?).

I associate Shaggy's It wasn't me with her. I can picture her dancing in the hallway of this club very clearly in my mind.

This was probably back in 2001.

Shirina was Turkish and she was very, very good. A dude I traveled with in that time frame swears by her. He was shaking like a leaf after a session with her. She had drained him of all essential body fluids.

Last I heard she had switched jobs and was now working the reception desk at Babylon. I understand that Jacqueline is still the Thekenfrau there too.

Freesoul

05-20-07, 11:38

[QUOTE=Jackyo]. With the translation, Marlow!

There is so much stuff out there to read in German on this topic and I only have just so much time to do translations. [/QUOTE]There are many free translation tools available on the web, so language is no longer a barrier. Here is a machine translation of your last quote from RF:

Originally Posted by Flahute

[Report] my premiere in the Babylon, Mi. + DO.

Liliana, you are the reason for my Erstbesuch in the Babylon.

Last week looked at I the homepage and sees myself your photos.

The Mrs. Has a picture-pretty face, I looks for whether I reports over you finds and become also very fast found.

It has already some stations behind itself and your service was always praised.

Then I extend Okay times mean horizon and plan in bälde one

Trip after Elsdorf. Those are of me unfortunately 125 km.

This week Tuesday look I once again also the HP of the club and see the new acquisitions Estefania and Domenica.

Picture-pretty Mrs. Those the heart of a optics-fixed Paysex consumer as I it now times one am more highly to strike leave.

Wednesday has I time, Liliana and Domenica should be present.

The homepage is in all other respects arranged very beautiful, informative and equipped with a up to date presence list.

The girls are to the all largest part with photos represented and your service spectrum is listed likewise.

On Wednesday I make sure at 13. 30 o'clock by telephone whether Liliana and Domenica are also actually present.

There Yes sir, you are. Beautifully, then' s can loose-go.

Parked in the backyard and then for inlet asked. Was opened for me and I outete myself as Erstbesucher. After I, one calls the starting money it also entrance, at a value of € 50,. Had forced away me by a girl the club was shown.

I got rid of before however in cover myself my Alltagsklamotten, closed these into the locker and committed myself a towel around my hips.

Down, where cover is, also 2 Saunen are, a shower increase sofas and Couchen and it go to the terrace in good weather being used can. At this time was down however only empties. As I spä *** to determine could do took place, at least on this day, nearly everything a floor more highly.

There it went then. A large table with several chairs, in contrast to this the meal, a bar and a large seat land landscape in you form and in the midst of a couch place where I also immediately the first public Action in inspection to take could. Right at the top the rooms are and also still showering opportunities.

Thus, after I now the premises know learned order I first times which-he-alcohol-free beverages are in the admission fee inkludiert, beer costs € 3,. Specially. I look for myself a place in the large group of seats and recognize also immediately Liliana. The woman stole an erotism out, from class. Unfortunately is already busy with a towel carrier you. I look at myself times, but this guest prefers the separationness of a room and in such a way disappears the two. Another girl was noticeable to me however already before. Blond one, shoulder for a long time hair, blue eyes and a very pretty, natural, unspent face. I sit down to me, you am called Nora.

A little Small talc, you laughs very gladly and has beautiful white teeth. We approach ourselves, first kisses. I stroke over your body.

Nora is not switch slim, but everything firm. Their radiant emittance and your face it did to me. Their hand does not walk under my towel and it lasts kneels long there you before me and spoils me with their mouth.

That makes you correctly good, you drives with your tongue to my tail along and looks at me thereby with your blue eyes. I find it times geil me on the couch spoil in such a way to let, particularly since Nora really white which man well does.

Sometime however the point is reached where I it says which I gladly with it on' s room to go would like.

Nora said to me you only for some days in the Paysex before is active, how to me has you before however already intensive seemed privately geübt.

I put on myself my towel, which is however quite bumped out. We go the stairs highly into one of the rooms. The room is divided by a wall broad at the side one about the passage 1 meter has. Curious as I now times am look I first times which on the other side am so the matter, there am however apparently straight half time.

We begin where we also already down began.

A detailierte description I save times,

Finally know you all like' s goes.

Nora has view and audibly fun at the Sex and comes very authentically more rüber. It is much demanding, kisses intensive and well, can be licked and fumbled. With traffic Nora keeps against it and is as already written demanding and the quietest very also not good. I was to high-content with my choice.

After showering I went first times into the seat landscape, what umgeschaut drunk and me a little. Meanwhile approx. 7-10 Dreibeiner were in the house. And there were also about 10 girls. Beside Liliana and Nora also Laura particularly pleased me. It reminded a beautiful Hardbody and a face me a little of an ex colleague. Then Domenica came purely, so a Body sees one extremely rarely. It sits down on me facing the side and looks to me more rüber. We hold views a few seconds, you smile. I go to it.

Production, well me none of the 3 of other guests, who sat still there, before came. Sometimes one must wait stop, and be fast sometimes. We think of, you come from Poland and speak except your homeland language still English however no German. We converse and I notice fast that the prevented let us measure Poland a very nice, open girl are. She came only 2 days ago from Poland and this is your first job in the Paysex.

We look for each other a room. And after a few minutes I am already that today my luck day am safe. With Domenica I best GF6 RK his, with the difference which I unfortunately never a friend with such Body had. Long kiss and stroke, explore the body. It is unprofessional in the very best sense. Further details I save. You know like' s goes.

Domenica remains for the time being only until Saturday and goes then back to Poland.

To current conditions has to come you however forwards then back.

After Domenica I did not want once again on' s room and saved in such a way I me Liliane for a further visit up. Liliane is by the way, anyhow I on Wednesday experienced in such a way, strongly frequented.

Still another Saunagang completes, which went eaten and then it also again to direction homeland.

On Thursday I decide to retrieve itself at short notice the session with Liliane, the day before which was void. Finally I do not have the opportunity otherwise in the week often in addition.

Okay, the way now know I.

In the contact area I saw first neither Liliane found, nor Domenica or Nora. Dafür met I a guest who I from the face from Cologne club know. I sat down to him to the bar and we chatted a little. Fast I placed firmly which it a similar taste as I have. It waited for Domenica, which was like the other two Ladys on the room. Now, I would have also very gladly the of yesterday experience-eat with it refurbished. But first of all it was had I the pleasure and third must one already also grants already longer there, secondly can.

Then Domenica came clean and the colleague was also immediately with it.

I needed to wait also not more for a long time then came Liliane and took on the large seat landscape place. From the day before I knew you was strongly still frequented and did not hesitate in such a way I not me to it to set. I wrote to already far you an erotism radiate the one man above simply to fascinate must. It lasted not for a very long time up to first contacts and kisses. First tenderly then intensive. Their hand walks to my tail and gives to this the freedom. But not for a long time then it dips into your mouth. It blows wonderful and it is a Wonne it thereby to be watched. We change then into a room. Here I notice the Liliane a correctly geiles Luder am fast (actually I wanted to write „correctly geile sow ", but one does not write nevertheless.)

Deep, damp ZK up to the almonds. Intensive fumbling and lick.

A so wet, variant-rich and deep Blow job like it also Janice from the TP celebrates.

Leg ficken goes along Liliane correctly, winds your body. It is simple geil with it.

After something relaxen grant myself I then still another 2nd round with Nora.

With their it has me fallen and there you very good yesterday a very much demanding impression made led us this time the way not into the upper floor to separate downward.

The Biosauna is not particularly hot however it is enough, the seats are covered with red imitation leather.

We left the door open and spread the towels. The woman has simply fun at the Sex, which I had yesterday already determined was confirmed again. Intensive tongue plays and during you mean tail delicately with your mouth fumble I you. By the heat is you very fast damp, I stimmuliere your Mumu and ficke you then with 2 fingers. Nora pleases that, becomes your groaning nevertheless louder. Then I want finally with the completely thick finger purely. It touches me the rubber over and I kneels itself behind you. The sweat flows already and in such a way arises a flutschiges feeling skin on skin. After a few slower impacts ficke I it harder and more violently. Nora groans now extremely loud. Still another one while hold on I and notice like the juices to then rise begin. And firing.

Puuh, after showering still which eaten and drunk and then satisfies completely on the way home made.

Became now a little very long

I do not hope that anybody during the reading fell asleep.

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Jackyo

05-20-07, 21:55

.. can only take you just so far.

You might be able to guess at what he is trying to say but nothing beats a live person doing it.

Marlow

05-30-07, 09:30

...was Jonathan Saffron Foer's book 'Everything is Illuminated' which came out a few years ago. It's about his trip to the Ukraine to search for his forebearers (something a great number of Yanks do). part written by Jonathan and the best parts written by a Ukrainian called Alex who is his tour guide. Alex's grasp of English and his typical Ukranian post communist attitude to life is one of the best pieces of comedy writing I have ever read.

Travelforfun

05-31-07, 16:46

The famous Liliana is missing from the website ...looks like she moved again.

Any updates where she might be working now?

Xavier Yves

06-03-07, 18:56

what's pricing structure in babylon for the moment? Thanks

CBGBConnisur

07-04-07, 13:02

50€ Entry and 50 € for half an hour of sex with the girl. The club has improved a bit from its fall a few years ago but it still not as good as it was when I first visited in 2001. This club used to have the best eye candy of any club in Germany.

Jackyo

08-21-07, 12:20

Their new website has very attractive photos:

www.privatclub-babylon.de

There is even one chick they identify as Afro-American, La Toya.

Euro100

08-22-07, 01:50

[QUOTE=Jackyo]Their new website has very attractive photos:

www.privatclub-babylon.de

There is even one chick they identify as Afro-American, La Toya.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for posting the url. I checked it out. Most interesting detail: all of the girls are listed by name, and their degree of pubic shaving is listed :D You can also see the faces of most girls. Quite a nice-looking lineup. I'll have to pay this club a visit on Sept. 23 (when I am in Düsseldorf again).

Jackyo

08-23-07, 02:37

[QUOTE=Euro100]Thanks for posting the url. I checked it out. Most interesting detail: all of the girls are listed by name, and their degree of pubic shaving is listed :D You can also see the faces of most girls. Quite a nice-looking lineup. I'll have to pay this club a visit on Sept. 23 (when I am in Düsseldorf again).[/QUOTE]
.. is, indeed, the interesting thing about their website.

There are two women in their lineup who've been there for a while: Laura and Verona, both of whom I've met.

I believe I've met Melanie too, when she was at Wiago.

I visited Wiago years ago with this Canadian dude from Toronto and he was hopelessly obsessed with her. He insisted on returning to this club several days in a row and did multiple sessions with her including the champagne plus whirlpool thing.

It was pretty bad. But then again, I went through the same thing also once with a chick, Jessica, at the same club.

Now if this club and Wiago would only get their acts together. Its been years since their glory days.

There are nude clubs and there are "exhibitionistic nude" clubs. They once offered the best eye candy in Germany.

Jackyo

10-01-07, 10:59

I have a thing for this club based on good experiences I've had there. Unfortunately, over the past couple of years its been nothing like it used to be.

In fact, a bad experience I had with a chick here two years ago has kept me away.

They post on Youppie and according to them the ownership situation has changed and they, as well, have no more connection to Wiago.

Here is what they wrote (in French) announcing a party on the 12th of October (Schade but I won't be able to make it to this!).

Note the new website address. Note also the large-titted Liliane is also named below (some of you out there follow her migrations).

[quote=Babylon] 10 ans Babylon à Elsdorf "Party" le 12.10

Chers amis du Babylon et amis à venir,

depuis le 8 janvier 2007 le Babylon a été repris par de nouveaux propriétaires.

Jusqu'il y a 5 à 6 années ce club était, et beaucoup vont s'en souvenir, l'un des meilleurs si pas LE meilleur des FKK-Clubs de tout le "Grossraum Köln".

Hélas à l'époque, par un changement de proprios et par une mauvaise gérance le Club a périclité...

Nous, nouveaux propriétaires, avons la prétention de reconduire ce Club à moyenne échéance dans le rang des meilleurs FKK-Clubs de Rhénanie-Westphalie.

Ainsi nous avons pu reconstruire une équipe de dames que beaucup ont déjà eu l'occasion de contempler sur le nouveau website

www.privatclub-babylon.de

créé en mars 07.

A côté de l'équipe souche avec Laura, Leyla, Verona, Melanie, Sabrina, Nora, et d'autres, nous réussissons aussi à vous présenter des femmes exceptionnelles telles Liliane, Domenica, Arrancciatta, Kamila, ... Liliane sera d'ailleurs présente à partir du 10. octobre.

Et nous allons persévérer.

Dans peu de temps nous allons rénover tout le bâtiment.

Pour fê*** tout celà nous vous invitons nombreux à notre "Oktoberfest-Party" le 12 octobre à Elsdorf.

Nos filles vous recoivent (pas de cédille sur mon clavier allemand) dans un "Oktoberfest-Outfit" sexy.

Nous fêtons avec:

Freibier (bière à volonté)
Buffet spécial
Danses
Musique du DJ

Début 12.00 heures, open end

Soyez nombreux et les bienvenus![/quote]
Fazit: They are celebrating their tenth anniversary on the 12th of October with an Oktoberfest party. Party starts at 12:00 and is open ended.The women will be wearing Oktoberfest-wear (whatever that is). The ownership situation changed in January of this year (in another post on the Youppie thread they say the current ownership has nothing to do with Milieu) and they hope to bring the club back to what it used to be; the top club in this part of the country (which is was at one point in time). It then lists the women who are there and says specifically that Liliane will be there after the 10th of October. They have plans to renovate the building.

As to what is going on currently at Wiago, ca, je n'en sais rien.

Whoever is running this club now actually has someone on board who is a Francophone, apparently.

Travelforfun

10-01-07, 15:45

Can anyone point out how if i catch a taxi how much roughly should it cost to get there?

Jackyo

10-01-07, 17:01

[QUOTE=Sesameking]Can anyone point out how if i catch a taxi how much roughly should it cost to get there?[/QUOTE]
... and I've not come to a clear answer on how much a cab would cost (at least from Koeln).

I know that there are trains to Bergheim (on the Erft) as I have taken trains to and from Koeln.

Elsdorf is one town over and so I suppose the cab ride would be cheapest this way.

I do believe there is a bus from the Bergheim station but I've not figured out which stop in Elsdorf is the closest to it.

I even went on a drive once in the town to try and figure out where things were. Its been a while since I've been back though.

Marlow

10-03-07, 09:11

The club has had recently some poor revues on the German boards. Stuck between PHG and Samya to name but two Babylon has some serious competition in the neighbourhood. Also entry at 35euro and first bang at 75euro, the price comes out 10euro more than Samya. German board commentators are pissed (to put it politely) that the advertised times of the girls do not correspond to reality - the girl(s) ain't there. Babylon's response was that it had no control over the girls, and if they cried off on the day there was not a lot they could do about it. Consequently the webpage no longer says who's in. So it is a long trip for perhaps not very much.
Samya has been quick to capitalise on this by posting real-time updates of which girls are in the club, making it very tough for Babylon to attract customers into the wilds of the flat lands west of Cologne.

Jackyo

10-03-07, 11:34

[QUOTE=Marlow]The club has had recently some poor revues on the German boards. Stuck between PHG and Samya to name but two Babylon has some serious competition in the neighbourhood. Also entry at 35euro and first bang at 75euro, the price comes out 10euro more than Samya. German board commentators are pissed (to put it politely) that the advertised times of the girls do not correspond to reality - the girl(s) ain't there. Babylon's response was that it had no control over the girls, and if they cried off on the day there was not a lot they could do about it. Consequently the webpage no longer says who's in. So it is a long trip for perhaps not very much.
Samya has been quick to capitalise on this by posting real-time updates of which girls are in the club, making it very tough for Babylon to attract customers into the wilds of the flat lands west of Cologne.[/QUOTE]
.. has, indeed, been an issue. It has always been a premium pricing club (at least since they went from the DMark to the Euro).

And yes, Samya has, indeed, set the pace as far as real-time data on who is present and working.

I've always kept an eye on this club because it is a sentimental favorite but it needs to make some real changes and I need to read more positive reviews before I return to check it out.

Breadman

10-03-07, 14:26

[QUOTE=Marlow] Also entry at 35euro and first bang at 75euro [/QUOTE]

I know that Fkk Zeus takes a cut from the girls to offset the low entry fee...wonder if Babylon does the same? You'd think new management would try to price themselves with their competition if they wanted to draw customers back to their club.

Jackyo

10-04-07, 04:12

[QUOTE=Breadman]I know that Fkk Zeus takes a cut from the girls to offset the low entry fee...wonder if Babylon does the same? You'd think new management would try to price themselves with their competition if they wanted to draw customers back to their club.[/QUOTE]
When this club was good, it was very good. It never wavered in its pricing philosophy and has always been premium priced. It justified this pricing based on high service standards and lots of exhibitionistic nudism.

There was a time when Bernds per session pricing was high too (I can't recall exactly but it was something like 80 Euros per session) but its entrance fee was low (wasn't it something like 30 Euros?).

Then they raised the entrance fee to the current rate of 75 Euros (I can't recall exactly) and at the same time dropped the per session charge to 50 Euros.

Marlow

10-04-07, 14:39

Since the German's put prostitution on the level a couple of years ago (about) clubs have had to change their pricing structure to stay within the law. This was the case with Bernd's which if you noticed when it charged 80 euros kept 30euros for itself, handed the girl 50euros and made her sign for it. The law says you can't do that any longer as the girl is self-employed so taking a cut of her wages is tantamount to being an employer. No club can afford the costs of German employee laws! And no girl wants it anyway. Recently the govt started a withholding tax of I think around 25euros a day (but don't quote me on that) which each girl has to pay. The idea being to encourage girls to declare their earnings for tax in the proper manner. Raids are regularly carried out to check if the girls are registered for tax. FKK and sauna clubs seem by and large to stay within the law - the girl pays her daily 'rent' and her tax and the rest she keeps. In other 'establishments' I'm not sure how it works, only that I know the old system of keeping half the earnings remains in use. The owners of these houses argue that the 50% take is justified by the unreliability of the girls themselves. They say they'll stay for three months or more, but can disappear overnight, leaving the owner out of pocket for providing the rooms, laundry etc etc. Whereas FKK and sauna clubs charge the girls a flat rate rent, these other 'puffs' don't. So a girl in a 'puff' who has say a really good day with six clients at an hour each (really good!) earns 900euros of which she keeps half. To earn 450euros in a FKK club a girl must have nine clients and from that deduct her outgoings (rent and tax).
There you have, not that it matters a toss to us!

Jackyo

10-07-07, 10:23

[QUOTE=Marlow]Since the German's put prostitution on the level a couple of years ago (about) clubs have had to change their pricing structure to stay within the law. This was the case with Bernd's which if you noticed when it charged 80 euros kept 30euros for itself, handed the girl 50euros and made her sign for it. The law says you can't do that any longer as the girl is self-employed so taking a cut of her wages is tantamount to being an employer. No club can afford the costs of German employee laws! And no girl wants it anyway. Recently the govt started a withholding tax of I think around 25euros a day (but don't quote me on that) which each girl has to pay. The idea being to encourage girls to declare their earnings for tax in the proper manner. Raids are regularly carried out to check if the girls are registered for tax. FKK and sauna clubs seem by and large to stay within the law - the girl pays her daily 'rent' and her tax and the rest she keeps. In other 'establishments' I'm not sure how it works, only that I know the old system of keeping half the earnings remains in use. The owners of these houses argue that the 50% take is justified by the unreliability of the girls themselves. They say they'll stay for three months or more, but can disappear overnight, leaving the owner out of pocket for providing the rooms, laundry etc etc. Whereas FKK and sauna clubs charge the girls a flat rate rent, these other 'puffs' don't. So a girl in a 'puff' who has say a really good day with six clients at an hour each (really good!) earns 900euros of which she keeps half. To earn 450euros in a FKK club a girl must have nine clients and from that deduct her outgoings (rent and tax).
There you have, not that it matters a toss to us![/QUOTE]
This would explain why they made these changes to pricing then.

Jackyo

11-07-07, 18:58

After not having been back since 2005, decided it was time to drop in on this club, my favorite club of all time until things started falling apart.

Its under new management and now is totally separate from Wiago, which has been renamed Extasia or something like that.

One of the owners, Eddy, is a former customer of this club and knows it well from its glory days.

But times have changed. Whereas back then probably only PHG was direct competition in this neck of the woods, there are now GT, Wildenrath, Residenz and Villa Vertigo to reckon with. Mal sehen was passieren wird.

He (Eddy) is ready to invest money in the club though and that means revising the shower fixtures upstairs, for one.

The set up is quite the same as before. Lighting is different and the Kunstleder couches are now in black (or was it deep blue?).

In front of the bar they have a pole and a stage for pole dancing. The women were complaining that the pole was of the wrong diameter though and it wasn't easy to turn on it.

They have plans of taking out the bar and doing something with it.

The former Umkleideraum is now a bedroom. I had instinctively headed for it with my towel and key but the lockers are now under the stairs (where I remember very clearly making out with this Polish blonde, Ramona).

Ah.. Every nook and cranny of this club holds memories for me. At this section of the couch, I admired Michelle's tight bod. At that other section, I had my first public BJ. It all came back to me in a rush of memories.

They have some photos of the former Besatzung hanging on the walls. Yvette, Pia, Suzi, Shirina, Nina, Chanel.. those names just roll right off my tongue.

Oh yes, where was I?

There weren't many customers when we got there and only five girls in total. All well selected and edited for one's viewing and sensual pleasures. Jessy was a darkhaired Russian or Polish chick. She had a friend who was equally darkhaired and equally Russian or Polish. There was one Turkish woman too with a nice figure.

For one, the legendary big-titted Liliane was very much present. One knows one is in the presence of greatness when one is within an arm's length of her. Her bikini top could barely contain her nipples.

Yes, they now wear bikinis there.

We stayed up until the wee hours of the morning talking about how great the club used to be and that if they were to get it back on track to greatness, the all nude rule had to be reintroduced.

Also, I made it a point to insist that the post-coital session afterwards had to be reinstituted as well (as some of you know, the PC session is long gone and it isn't offered anywhere these days).

Then there was Nadine who is a legend in her own right, the so-called independent Nadine from Bergheim. She greeted us at the door wearing nothing but thigh high boots, blonde, blue-eyed, totally shaved and I eventually found myself drawn to her side.

I did have the pleasure and was extremely pleased to make her acquaintance.

Will this club suceed in turning things around? I don't know.

For one thing, they do have premium pricing. Its 35 Euros to get in, 75 Euros for the first session, 55 Euros for the second session.

If you consider say typical pricing of 50 Euros to get in, 50 Euros for the first session, you are at 105 Euros at Babylon where you would be at 100 Euros elsewhere.

By the time you did your second session you'd be 165 Euros at Babylon and at 150 Euros anywhere else.

They had better be offering really, really good services at Babylon to make this up and with the additional competition, things are going to be tough.

One should note that this pricing scheme compares favorably with Bernds though when you consider that Bernds asks for 70 Euros to enter the front door.

If I were in the owners shoes, Bernds would be the club I'd most want to be like rather than the local competition. PHG and GT have huge selections of women, some of whom are outstanding, some of which are average and some of whom are unf'able.

Babylon being a small club would have to compete in terms of offering a small, edited selection where one can throw a dart to pick one's session partner and be guaranteed a good experience. The larger clubs are too much of a crap shoot from my experience.

Oh, yes. There was food but it wasn't anything to write home about.

Their Thekenstaff was great though. Claudia (or Claudine) is funny, easy to talk to and friendly. At the end of the evening, she and I were holding hands like we were old friends (this is a long story).

I wish this club well for nostalgic purposes but it will a lot of work to turn it around.

Of the women on the website who now work there, I only recognize two: Laura and Verona. Both are still there but not present when I visited. I also think I recognize Melanie who used to be Wiago.

Want to experience a Babylon girl without actually going to Babylon? Monika at Bernds used to work at both Wiago and Babylon. This goes back several years now (I'll have to read my notes to get the exact year). She may, in fact, be the oldest Babylon girl I have ever met who is still actively in the profession. The others have moved on (if anyone knows what Suzie is doing currently, I'd be interested in finding out, by the way).

Breadman

11-08-07, 03:04

[QUOTE=Jackyo]

But times have changed. Whereas back then probably only PHG was direct competition in this neck of the woods, there are now GT, Wildenrath, Residenz and Villa Vertigo to reckon with. Mal sehen was passieren wird.

For one thing, they do have premium pricing. Its 35 Euros to get in, 75 Euros for the first session, 60 Euros for the second session.

If you consider say typical pricing of 50 Euros to get in, 50 Euros for the first session, you are at 110 Euros at Babylon where you would be at 100 Euros elsewhere.

By the time you did your second session you'd be 170 Euros at Babylon and at 150 Euros anywhere else. There was food but it wasn't anything to write home about.
[/QUOTE]

I know that for my 50 euro's I get decent food and all the beer I can handle (within reason) at GT and im going to assume the same for PHG and Vertigo (once it opens). Will my 35 entrance fee give me free beer?

Jackyo

11-08-07, 03:52

[QUOTE=Breadman]I know that for my 50 euro's I get decent food and all the beer I can handle (within reason) at GT and im going to assume the same for PHG and Vertigo (once it opens). Will my 35 entrance fee give me free beer?[/QUOTE]
No, there is no free beer.

They do have alcoholic beverages but you need to pay for them separately.

Their strategy is to offer an edited selection of women and guarantee total satisfaction from the services offered.

When this club was good, it was as good if not better than Bernds service-wise.

Jackyo

12-04-07, 10:13

This invitation is extended to anglophones also.

[quote=Babylon] "Party" de Noel le 07.12.07 au Babylon

Chers amis du Babylon,

Le 07 décembre a lieu au Babylon notre annuel "Party" de Noel.
Nos filles porteront un outfit de Noel très sexy.

Il y a boissons et buffet.

Début 12.00 heures
A partir de 20.00 heures: live-music par un groupe folklorique bien connu du Carneval de Cologne.

Notez s'il-vous-plaît que depuis le début novembre dernier le Babylon est de nouveau comme dans le passé un Club FKK pur (toutes les filles sont entièrement nues).

Soyez les bien-venus.

FKK-Privat-Club Babylon
www.privatclub-babylon.de[/quote]
Fazit: They are having their Christmas party on the 7th of December. The women will be dressed appropriately in Christmas outfits and they will have food and drink. Everything starts at 12:00 and at 20:00 they will have live music played by a folk music group which is well known at the Karneval in Koeln. They also announce that since the beginning of November, they are an entirely nude club now (Yes! They acted on my suggestion the last time. How cool is that?).

This club is accessible via a combination of train/bus/taxi as follows:

[quote=Babylon]Je te joins pour amis belges, luxembourgeois et autres, qui veulent venir en train, un petit guide pour arriver au club sans problèmes:
Si tu viens de Belgique, le plus facile est de prendre le train vers Cologne. Avant Cologne descendre à la station de HORREM.
Là bas appeler Taxi Janitz Tel. 02274/1717 ou bien 02271/64555.
En donnant le mot de passe "FKK-Club-Babylon" le trajet de 10 à 15 minutes au Club est pour 17 Euros (pix convenu avec le patron).
Si tu viens de Cologne, train direction Aachen, descendre à la station de Horrem ... et même procédure. Tu peux venir aussi avec la Strassenbahn vers Köln-Weiden, en face du Rheincenter prendre le Bus 961 vers Bergheim, ici aussi prendre un taxi Tel.02271/64555.
Nous sommes en train de négocier des prix d'hôtel à proximité du club.[/quote]
Fazit: If you are coming from Belgium, take the train in the direction of Koeln, get off at Horrem. Call Taxi Janitz (phone numbers above), give them the password "FKK Club Babylon" and within 10 to 15 minute you will be there for about 17 Euros. If you come from Koeln, take the train to Aachen, get off at Horrem and do the same thing. You can also take the streetcar in the direction of Koeln-Weiden and in front of the Rheincenter, take Bus 961 to Bergheim and then call a cab when you get there. They are in the process of negotiating with a hotel in the area so one can stay nearby.

I have also taken the train from Koeln Hbf to Bergheim Centreville.. sorry - Stadtmitte, and gotten off there.

gitan

01-04-08, 11:49

They will hold their annual "Carnaval" party on January 31st. On the same day, there will be a meeting for the members of the forum Youppie.

Normally between 20 and 25 girls will be present, they will also offer a nice buffet for this party.

Peter

04-10-08, 16:54

I swung by Babylon again last night. I used to like this club years and years ago, and I still rop by once a year to see whether there are any hidden treasures.

I have to say I was at Schieferhof and Traumparadies on the same day, where my results were very mixed.

So I get to Elsdorf, an once again they had changed the pricing scheme.

It is 35€ entrance fee

The first half hour is an additional 75€ and each half hour after that is 55€. They keep the prize for the club with the stupidest and most confusing pricing system.

They also have a list up for all the extras, with CIM at 25€, CIM with swallowing at 50€, Anal at 50€ and some other things. I have it on very good authority that posting such a list puts the club management in a dangerous legal situation, but that isn't my problem.

The girls keep 40€ for each half hour, and the club gets the rest, the girl also keeps all of her extras money.

So I go there, and there are about 4 girls there. 3 were nothing to write home about, and then there was Isabella.

She is about 5'3" and slim with smallish perky breasts and a nice sporty butt. She has dark blonde long hair and in every way looks "natural". She is 21 and Polish, no tattoos, no long fingernails - just a very natural good looking girl.

Her german is decent, she also speaks a bit of english.

So we talked for a while, and she was a smart and nice girl...so I decided to take it to the room.

There we talked some more, and she kissed me in a way that I could really call a GFE. The girl doesn't smoke, so her tongue and breath are really nice and fresh. I rarely use the term GFE, but tis kissing was really really a lot like when you were 19 and some girl was really into you. It was something I haven't really seen in a working girl for quite a while.

I then went down on her, which she enjoyed, then she went down on me, wich again was a whole new world for working girls, and even included a bit of rimming.....it is no surprise she says that she has quite a few repeat customers who ask for her or make appointments.

the actual sex was out of this world again. She really really got into it, wrapping her legs around me, going along with my rhythm, fluidly changing positions.

The girl has CIM in her program, and Anal, and I decided I wanted to try anal again. She was amazing.

I haven't been this impressed with a working girl in years, she is definitely in my all time top 3, and that after only one encounter.

Bablon all in all has not improved, but this girl is worth heading to a club just for a chance with her.

I spent an hour with her with anal, which was 180€, and I swear I still consider it a bargain.

Call ahead to see if she is there, because she is a reason to visit the club....if she isn't there don't even bother.

http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=20&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1

Jackyo

04-11-08, 10:57

The other highlight of this club used to be Lilijana.

Yes, it is the same large breasted Lilijana who worked at Blue Note and at La Bedo. Some of you know exactly who I am referring to.

She has a cult following like you wouldn't believe.

I say "used to be" because last I heard she had moved on. Destination unknown (maybe I'll try to find her on the RF).

Schade!

Willem2

04-11-08, 14:35

[QUOTE=Jackyo]The other highlight of this club used to be Lilijana.

Yes, it is the same large breasted Lilijana who worked at Blue Note and at La Bedo. Some of you know exactly who I am referring to.

She has a cult following like you wouldn't believe.

I say "used to be" because last I heard she had moved on. Destination unknown (maybe I'll try to find her on the RF).

Schade![/QUOTE]She isn't working at the moment (nowhere). If she starts again that will be probably again at Babylon ( info from herself)

CBGBConnisur

04-12-08, 05:39

Did Chanel, the half German half Turkish babe ever show up at this club again? She was amazing. I visit this club occasionally just because she was there.

Jackyo

04-12-08, 13:56

[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]Did Chanel, the half German half Turkish babe ever show up at this club again? She was amazing. I visit this club occasionally just because she was there.[/QUOTE]
I had the pleasure myself something like five years ago.

I'll always remember her as she had an amazing olive complexion and a really exotic look. She was very uninhibited.

I watched her impale herself on this guy's dick in full view of everyone in the main Kontaktzimmer and milk him dry.

Those were the days when Babylon was a "must visit" club.

The new owners are hoping to bring it back to that status.

@Willem2: Thanks for the intel on Lilijana!

CBGBConnisur

04-19-08, 23:33

Are you kidding?? I did not see her at Babylon since August 2001. More like seven years. From what I saw in 2007, Babylon has a long way to go until its gets back to the status. I think that Chanel thing was more earthshaking since it happened a month before September 2001, we all know what a bad month that was for the world. During my visit to Partytreff Selm, I saw a woman who looked somewhat like Chanel, but was Latvian, not German Turkish. I have no idea why it is so easy to meet incredible women in Europe, when I go back to the English speaking world I am constantly let down, it is not even funny. Living in Sydney there are plenty of good looking women, but pretty much they are very predictable and all want the same shit.

Jackyo

04-20-08, 10:20

[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]Are you kidding?? I did not see her at Babylon since August 2001. More like seven years. From what I saw in 2007, Babylon has a long way to go until its gets back to the status. I think that Chanel thing was more earthshaking since it happened a month before September 2001, we all know what a bad month that was for the world. During my visit to Partytreff Selm, I saw a woman who looked somewhat like Chanel, but was Latvian, not German Turkish. I have no idea why it is so easy to meet incredible women in Europe, when I go back to the English speaking world I am constantly let down, it is not even funny. Living in Sydney there are plenty of good looking women, but pretty much they are very predictable and all want the same shit.[/QUOTE]
Maybe it was seven years ago after all. I have to check my notes. Hard to believe 9.11 took place almost seven years ago.

I associate certain songs with certain time periods and certain women. I usually bring home a CD of the current German pop hit list (this background music plays at these clubs and it gets into your head). I play it in my car when I've driving around locally.

With Chanel the association is with Shaggy's "It wasn't me". Every now and then she would stand up and dance. Very erotic.

There are women who look good then there are "must have" women who you know when you see them you absolutely have to meet.

She was in the "must have" category.

CBGBConnisur

04-21-08, 15:04

Wonder what she looks like now? I got to see Margarita of DV at Living Room last year in 07 in Kaarst, the last time I saw her before that was in August 2001, still quite attractive but she did not seem to "Wow" like she did in the past.

I remember back then the guys at the Cfit tour, used to tout FKKs as good cheap sex, with the surging Euro it doesn't seem so cheap(I heard the Euro might buy as much as 3 to 4 US Dollars over the next several years, the Swiss Franc, Pound, Aussie and Canadian Dollar will also appreciate heavily against the Greenback), still rarely does a session go into triple figures even when translated into our devaluing US currency.

Breadman

04-21-08, 19:30

[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]

I remember back then the guys at the Cfit tour, used to tout FKKs as good cheap sex, with the surging Euro it doesn't seem so cheap(I heard the Euro might buy as much as 3 to 4 US Dollars over the next several years, the Swiss Franc, Pound, Aussie and Canadian Dollar will also appreciate heavily against the Greenback), still rarely does a session go into triple figures even when translated into our devaluing US currency.[/QUOTE]
Right now it costs about 75 us dollars for a half hour session...100 for an hour at Goldentime/PHG/VV. Its 250 per hour in Toronto and around 180 in Montreal. But you never get a full hours worth of action...take off 10 minutes at the beginning and sometimes 15 at the end...so you pay for 35~40 minutes tops. Plus you don't get to meet the girls beforehand...and these agency owners employ very good photoshop experts.

CBGBConnisur

04-22-08, 19:32

Half hour in Sydney is about 140 to 160AUD at local brothels, that is about 100 EUR. North America and the UK are both ridiculously expensive for P4P. Montreal has a lot of girls working out of apartments, thats better than escorts.

Ekliges Lauern

04-23-08, 00:25

[QUOTE=Breadman]Right now it costs about 75 us dollars for a half hour session...100 for an hour at Goldentime/PHG/VV. Its 250 per hour in Toronto and around 180 in Montreal. But you never get a full hours worth of action...take off 10 minutes at the beginning and sometimes 15 at the end...so you pay for 35~40 minutes tops. Plus you don't get to meet the girls beforehand...and these agency owners employ very good photoshop experts.[/QUOTE]

Agree P4P in North America is expensive. Toronto used to be a good deal when .75USD=1CAD. Now, not so good a deal. 140CAD half hour is available with the Chinese incalls. Montreal I rather like but for calling escorts for a good night fuck in my hotel room after an interesting day exploring the city. The FKK scene in Germany is a more full on, all day fuck fest experience. Apples and oranges.

Jackyo

05-03-08, 10:44

I found this announcement of their new Preispolitik which is a major simplification of their previously confusing price structure.

Note also the longer opening hours on Friday and Saturday.

[quote=Babylon]Babylon Preise

Der Transparenz und der Übersichtlichkeit halber gelten im Babylon ab kommenden Montag folgende Preise:

Die Tageskarte - Preise

60-50-50

Die Tageskarte liegt bei 60 Euro (Eintritt). Dafür kannst Du Dich von 12.00 bis 24.00 Uhr (Montag bis Donnerstag) oder von 12.00 bis 02.00 Uhr (Freitag und Samstag) bei uns wohlfühlen. Ausserdem erhältst Du
» Handtücher und Badeschuhe
» Warmes Buffet und Softgetränke und diverse Biersorten
» Nutzung unserer Saunen
Der Gast bezahlt bei uns für eine gute halbe Stunde mit Küssen, Französisch ohne und Verkehr (mit Schutz) 50 Euro, für jede weitere halbe Stunde mit derselben Dame, aber auch mit anderen Damen, 50 Euro.

Extras werden wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.

Für Gruppen ab 5 Personen oder für besondere Events (Junggesellenparty, Privatparty, ...) gelten besondere Preise auf Anfrage.
__________________
FKK Babylon [/quote]
Time to return and check this club out!

Last time I was there, Eddy, one of the new owners, said they were working out an arrangment with a hotel nearby.

Its not easy to get to without a car. Its doable but it involves a sequence of transfers.

Travelerb69

05-03-08, 14:55

Jackyo, their prices seemed high to me, 60 to get in, no happy hour, 50 every 1/2 hour, so I have just checked at their web site, below, from what I understood entrance is 35, and first 1/2 hour 75, the following 55, the prices you copied will be the new ones? Anyway, both price structures are high, it has to be pretty good either in terms of line-up or services. They are in an area which the strongest competitor is Golden Time, not so far way...

Die Tageskarte - Preise

Die Tageskarte liegt bei 35 Euro (Eintritt). Dafür kannst Du Dich von 12.00 bis 24.00 Uhr (Montag bis Donnerstag) oder von 12.00 bis 02.00 Uhr (Freitag und Samstag) bei uns wohlfühlen. Ausserdem erhältst Du
» Handtücher und Badeschuhe
» Warmes Buffet und Softgetränke und diverse Biersorten
» Nutzung unserer Saunen
Der Gast bezahlt bei uns für eine gute halbe Stunde mit Küssen, Französisch ohne und Verkehr (mit Schutz) 75 Euro, für jede weitere halbe Stunde mit derselben Dame, aber auch mit anderen Damen, 55 Euro.

Extras werden wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.

Big30

05-03-08, 15:44

[QUOTE=Travelerb69]

Die Tageskarte - Preise

Die Tageskarte liegt bei 35 Euro (Eintritt). Dafür kannst Du Dich von 12.00 bis 24.00 Uhr (Montag bis Donnerstag) oder von 12.00 bis 02.00 Uhr (Freitag und Samstag) bei uns wohlfühlen. Ausserdem erhältst Du
» Handtücher und Badeschuhe
» Warmes Buffet und Softgetränke und diverse Biersorten
» Nutzung unserer Saunen
Der Gast bezahlt bei uns für eine gute halbe Stunde mit Küssen, Französisch ohne und Verkehr (mit Schutz) 75 Euro, für jede weitere halbe Stunde mit derselben Dame, aber auch mit anderen Damen, 55 Euro.

Extras werden wie folgt aufgeschlagen: Analverkehr +50 Euro, Aufnahme +25 Euro, Schlucken + 50 Euro, NS +25 Euro.[/QUOTE]

I was in Babylon Friday April 15. The price structure indeed now is (again) as quoted above. I counted about 10 girls. Food was OK.
There is public action in the barroom even sex in the basement!
Line-up could not impress me that much, only the girl from Polen Isabella but she was booked all evening.

The club really is not bad and the owner tries to make the best of it.
But they have strong competion with Gt, LR, PHG, VV not that far away!
O yeah you do not pay the girl after a room but you pay the club when you leave.

Regards,
Big30

Sexfan

05-03-08, 16:33

The prices jackyo copied were in use for a few days only. They came back to the old price structure (35 + 75 + 55 + 55 .....) after there were complaints about the new prices (60 + 50 + 50 + ....).

Jackyo

05-04-08, 02:39

[QUOTE=Sexfan]The prices jackyo copied were in use for a few days only. They came back to the old price structure (35 + 75 + 55 + 55 .....) after there were complaints about the new prices (60 + 50 + 50 + ....).[/QUOTE]
I actually sent Eddy a note asking him to confirm.

This is what he wrote back:

[quote=Babylon]Hallo Jackyo,
schön, von Dir zu hören.

Letztlich sind unsere Preise unverändert geblieben.
Wir hatten bekannt gegeben, daß wir, um uns anzupassen an andere Clubs, die
Preise auf 60-50-50 setzen würden. Aber man hat uns derart im Internet
angegriffen, daß wir alles unverändert lassen.
Liebe Grüße Eddy[/quote]
In other words: they have reverted back to their old pricing structure.

I stand corrected.

Jackyo

06-06-08, 15:28

Can someone confirm if the Mahe whose photos are on the Babylon website is the same Mahe who has worked at Bernds?

She is half Korean and half German.

A visit to this website also reveals that there is a Japanese woman who works there, Saki, who looks to be someone I should meet.

Her tits though look to be, as they say, getuned.

Iseeu

06-06-08, 17:08

[QUOTE=Jackyo]Can someone confirm if the Mahe whose photos are on the Babylon website is the same Mahe who has worked at Bernds?

She is half Korean and half German.

A visit to this website also reveals that there is a Japanese woman who works there, Saki, who looks to be someone I should meet.

Her tits though look to be, as they say, getuned.[/QUOTE]

...are ex- Bernd's and I had memorable sessions with both. see;

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=614648&postcount=525( mahe)

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730948&postcount=868 (saki)

I have to say that I am impressed by the lineup, and the website looks very professionally done. If mahe and saki, both very intelligent and also excellent performers are working there now, it warrants a visit to check it out.

When I spent time with Saki back in April, she told me that her plans were to return to Sudbad and help with the "berndsification" of that club. I'm disappointed that she's moved out of the Hof group. Does anyone know if they went ahead with the plan to change Sudbad?

BTW- they are "getuned" and they are fabulous, along with the rest of her assets.

Iseeu

06-06-08, 17:09

[QUOTE=Jackyo]Can someone confirm if the Mahe whose photos are on the Babylon website is the same Mahe who has worked at Bernds?

She is half Korean and half German.

A visit to this website also reveals that there is a Japanese woman who works there, Saki, who looks to be someone I should meet.

Her tits though look to be, as they say, getuned.[/QUOTE]

...are ex- Bernd's and I had memorable sessions with both;

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=614648&postcount=525 (Mahe)

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=730948&postcount=868 (Saki)

I have to say that I am impressed by the lineup, and the website looks very professionally done. If mahe and saki, both very intelligent, exotically beautiful and also excellent performers are working there now, it warrants a visit to check it out.

When I spent time with Saki back in April, she told me that her plans were to return to Sudbad and help with the "berndsification" of that club. I'm disappointed that she's moved out of the Hof group. Does anyone know if they went ahead with the plan to change Sudbad?

BTW- they are "getuned" and they are fabulous, along with the rest of her assets.

Breadman

06-06-08, 20:58

Website looks to be saying entrance is 35 euro's....not sure what the cost is for a half hour and an additional half hour though. Their extra charges seem to match PHG, GT and VV...25 cim, 50 anal....but I did notice a new charge that ive never run across myself...a 50 euro swallow charge. Not sure how they can add this on if all you wanted was a CIM?

Jackyo

06-08-08, 13:33

.. by the way, isn't posting much on this forum but if you follow the RF (the Rhein version) it seems he has been making this club his second home.

There was a time when this club offered an excellent selection and a service mentality which was pretty difficult to top.

I have always held out hope that it would rebound and maybe it will this time suceed with new management.

Breadman

06-08-08, 16:40

Can anyone figure out the rates?

Big30

06-09-08, 02:43

[QUOTE=Breadman]Can anyone figure out the rates?[/QUOTE]

Yes, just read this topic!

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=738499&postcount=112

You pay after you leave the club. Not after you have had a session with a girl. Mahe and Saki are now working in Babylon! That is indeed correct.

Regards,
Big30

Jackyo

07-16-08, 20:22

[QUOTE=CBGBConnisur]If Chanel is back, I'm on the next flight to Dusseldorf/Koln.[/QUOTE]
The list of legendary women at Babylon is a long one.

Chanel was something else.

And then there was the incomparable Nina, who personified sex. Years after she quit there are still dudes on the RF trying to figure out what happened to her.

I was talking to Monika at Bernds when I was there two weeks ago. She is one of those women there whose career I've followed and we always have at least a short chat when I drop by.

I first met her at Wiago and then at Babylon. Then she made the switch to Babylon and she's been there at least two years now.

We did a walk on memory lane listing the women who worked at Babylon who she also knew.

When she mentioned Shirina, I let out an involuntary gasp. It caught the other women around us (and her) by surprise.

A friend of mine gets weak kneed just thinking about Shirina. She's now retired.

Peter

07-16-08, 22:33

I sort of fell for this one girl working there called isabele. She is 5'3" and ybe 100 pounds soaking wet. 22, no piercings and was a total nymho like I have never experienced in a club. Her cousin fro poland saw her pics on the site, drove 1200 km and scared the shit out of her and she is out of the game after onl 8 weeks in. She was booked day and night at babylon, and I was guilty of multi-hour bookings as well.

i will miss her from the game, and I ight even head to poland at some time to visit her...she was just that good...a damn natural...

this cousin bust thing happened 2 hours after I had a 3some with her and a female friend of mine I brought with me to the club to give a 3some a try.....it was really a fun day until then....

I have been with Saki too, and her service and peronality are great.

The club is doing OK, I think Carmen is also quite attrctive.

I mean the club has more girls who do anal than virtually any other club I know. It still isn't a guarantee for a good day, but it is improving.

The manager Eddie is also not the typical club boss, he is a former customer and a former veterinarian, who somehow must want a more interesting life....

the food sucks though...but supposedly they are renovating the rooms soon.

Jackyo

07-17-08, 10:32

[QUOTE=Peter]
The manager Eddie is also not the typical club boss, he is a former customer and a former veterinarian, who somehow must want a more interesting life....

the food sucks though...but supposedly they are renovating the rooms soon.[/QUOTE]
He is more than willing to listen to suggestions on how to improve the club and he follows through. He is, indeed, a former customer and knows what this club was like during its glory years.

Yes, areas for improvement include the food and the facilties which are about ten years old now.

The shower hardware needs to be replaced.

Every nook and cranny of this club brings back memories.

They once had an indoor pool in the basement. It was renovated maybe six or seven years ago and now has a seating area.

Peter

07-19-08, 08:29

what I sometimes like about tese small clubs like babylon or heavensgate, or wildenrath in the old days or bernd's is the non professional homey feel of the club. You see the girls go back inot the kitchen and sit around the table nd complain about little things like their car needing to get repaired or a broken faucet at home. They grab a cookie, or a piece of cake, say a couple fo words and walk out...no glamorous talk, it is all very matter of fact....it is all, I just got back from having soe guy cum in my face, let me grab a quick glass of fanta because there is a guy out there waitig for me to shove a 10 inch dildo up his ass, and after that soe guy wo wants to lick my ass and then do me anal......

it seems really surreal, and has so many disconnects I find it fascinating.....

I mean places like Moulin Rouge or top strip clubs in the states make this giant illusion of untuchability and glamour around the women...the DJ announces her before the dance, you are seperated, you only see the outfit, the stage the lights, and then the DJ maybe says tat she will deign to allow herself to be available for private dances....well none fo that in these small clubs....normal girls who will fuck you for money, because they need money to get through the normal everyday problems that we all face.....

If you go to one of these clubs more often, and you have the type of personality that lends to it, you will be surprised how you sort of become part of the family.....a bunch of old girls from wildenrath are working at Trumparadies, or Monic still works at GT, and when I see them, for both it is like seeing an old friend....

Jackyo

07-19-08, 11:53

[QUOTE=Peter]what I sometimes like about tese small clubs like babylon or heavensgate, or wildenrath in the old days or bernd's is the non professional homey feel of the club. You see the girls go back inot the kitchen and sit around the table nd complain about little things like their car needing to get repaired or a broken faucet at home. They grab a cookie, or a piece of cake, say a couple fo words and walk out...no glamorous talk, it is all very matter of fact....it is all, I just got back from having soe guy cum in my face, let me grab a quick glass of fanta because there is a guy out there waitig for me to shove a 10 inch dildo up his ass, and after that soe guy wo wants to lick my ass and then do me anal......

it seems really surreal, and has so many disconnects I find it fascinating.....

I mean places like Moulin Rouge or top strip clubs in the states make this giant illusion of untuchability and glamour around the women...the DJ announces her before the dance, you are seperated, you only see the outfit, the stage the lights, and then the DJ maybe says tat she will deign to allow herself to be available for private dances....well none fo that in these small clubs....normal girls who will fuck you for money, because they need money to get through the normal everyday problems that we all face.....

If you go to one of these clubs more often, and you have the type of personality that lends to it, you will be surprised how you sort of become part of the family.....a bunch of old girls from wildenrath are working at Trumparadies, or Monic still works at GT, and when I see them, for both it is like seeing an old friend....[/QUOTE]
... of what these smaller clubs are all about, Peter!

I'd much rather invest my time and money in them because you do become part of the "family", so to speak. You get to know them and they get to know you. There is less churn and turnover. And you do get a slice of life experience chatting with the girls.

The larger clubs are way too cold and impersonal for my taste.

The smaller clubs have talented amateurs or semi-pros; local girls with a financial objective who will have sex anyway whether it be with you or with someone else so their thinking is: why not make some money at the same time? The transactional hardcore professionals who want to "flip as many burgers" as they can and are less interested in creating relationships and a Stammkunde just don't put as much into it as these girls do.

I saw Anna at Bernds two weeks ago. She is formerly from Wildenrath and chatting with her about the girls who used to work at Wildenrath is like taking a walk down memory lane.

If you do get to see Monika at GT, say hi for her. They've not been in touch and she seemed to be eager to find out how she and the other former Wildenrath girls have been (GT doesn't do it for me so it will be a while before I return. I'll visit Blue Note several times over before I return to GT ).

CBGBConnisur

08-04-08, 15:07

[QUOTE=Peter]I sort of fell for this one girl working there called isabele. She is 5'3" and ybe 100 pounds soaking wet. 22, no piercings and was a total nymho like I have never experienced in a club. Her cousin fro poland saw her pics on the site, drove 1200 km and scared the shit out of her and she is out of the game after onl 8 weeks in. She was booked day and night at babylon, and I was guilty of multi-hour bookings as well.

i will miss her from the game, and I ight even head to poland at some time to visit her...she was just that good...a damn natural...

this cousin bust thing happened 2 hours after I had a 3some with her and a female friend of mine I brought with me to the club to give a 3some a try.....it was really a fun day until then....

I have been with Saki too, and her service and peronality are great.

The club is doing OK, I think Carmen is also quite attrctive.

I mean the club has more girls who do anal than virtually any other club I know. It still isn't a guarantee for a good day, but it is improving.

The manager Eddie is also not the typical club boss, he is a former customer and a former veterinarian, who somehow must want a more interesting life....

the food sucks though...but supposedly they are renovating the rooms soon.[/QUOTE]

A Vet runs a Brothel??? LOL. I went to Babylon last year, the place is a total shadow of what it used to be in 2001, the last time I visited the club in 2004, the women had clothes on. There was a Tunisian girl named Laila I met in 2004 and another tall German lady who had lived in Nevada, there was another young blonde German woman who was quiet, I ran into her again in 2007, she did not even recognize me. The German woman from Vegas this time was fully clothed and she looked like she put on weight. The quiet German girl was also still there. Too bad I could not run into Chanel a few years later.

Jackyo

08-28-08, 13:12

Until September 14th, they have summer pricing. (After that, who knows?)

Entry fee is 50 Euros, a thirty minute session is 50 Euros and 30 minute extensions beyond that are 50 Euros.

They call it their 50-50-50 deal.

CBGBConnisur

08-31-08, 22:48

Babylon is still not up to the strength it once had as one of the best FKK clubs in Germany.

Jackyo

09-16-08, 15:48

According to an announcement on the Youppie forum, this pricing arrangement was rolled over after its expiration date which was September 14th.

There is, by the way, an Afro-American chick who works there these days, La Toya. Her photo is on their website.

Jackyo

12-06-08, 22:21

Babylon had a reduced entry fee yesterday for dudes who came to their Christmas party dressed in a Santa Claus suit: 1/2 price. A hat was not enough; full costume required.

If that dude did a strip tease dance, his entry was for free.

I'd attach a photo image but its too large to upload.

Jackyo

12-19-08, 13:01

The current staff includes a couple of Romanian women and a couple of Frenchwomen too. I'd never met Romanian women at this club and to have Frenchwomen is quite new as well.

I do ask myself if the Pia who is named on the website is the same Pia who worked there way way back in 99. If yes, she's been at this a while. I'd run into her at Wiago and then afterwards she moved to Samya. She doesn't have any photos so it can't be confirmed.

Iseki

12-19-08, 17:52

No not the same Pia. This one I believe is Turkish, short, heavy, seems nice. Not the Pia of Nina's era.

Jackyo

12-19-08, 22:34

[QUOTE=Iseki]No not the same Pia. This one I believe is Turkish, short, heavy, seems nice. Not the Pia of Nina's era.[/QUOTE]
Last I saw Pia she had been putting on quite a bit of weight.

She always was kind of sassy. Really funny once you got to know her.

Iseeu

03-11-09, 20:51

I’ve been looking for an opportunity to get back to Babylon after all of these years, after hearing that its new management is committed to bringing it back to its former glory as one of the best of the NRW clubs. On a Thurs. a couple of weeks ago, I had about 5 hours free in the afternoon after a series of business meetings in Cologne so I went for a drive out to Elsdorf after not having been there for almost 3 years. It was Weiberfassnacht that day, the first day of carnival in NRW, and according to their website, they were having an all day Weiberfassnacht party which sounded promising. Despite my extended absence, I was able to drive straight to Elsdorf without the need for any navigation aids. There are some things your mind just never forgets.

I actually would have had more time for the club if not for the mad scene in Cologne that day. Masses of people walking In the streets, many streets closed off by police, major thoroughfares turned into one way streets, loud music blaring everywhere, etc. My meetings started mid morning and already there were crowds of drunk people in the city center. To get to my meetings which were held in an hotel and office near the DOM, I had to dodge hordes of drunk revelers in ridiculous outfits, while stepping on shards from broken beer bottles which littered the sidewalks and streets. Lots of pretty ladies in outlandish garb, but the low temperatures and vicious winds, kept everything covered up.

I had some commitments arranged for that evening and night and would have to leave by 7:30. I pulled out of the parking lot under the DOM at 2 p.m. but due to the crazy traffic situation, I didn’t get to Babylon until just before 3. I parked on the street to complete a phone call through my closed windows, could already hear the loud silly music which is a mainstay of the Carnival. That music once inside, was ear-splitting, hitting supersonic decibel levels and made conversation virtually impossible.

The facility hasn’t changed much over the years. The men’s changing area is now under the stairs and no longer on the 1st landing near the entrance. What used to be the men’s changing room is now the women’s changing area. From the lockers downstairs, there’s a sad excuse for a shower room, so I constantly showered in the circular shower all the way up in the upstairs bathroom. Instead of the pool, which they got rid of a long time ago, there’s a sunken area with bench seating, which gets little use. What is new in the basement, near the door leading to the small yard, is a very nice relax area with a couch, some armchairs, fake fireplace and a plasma TV. On the main floor, they’ve replaced the couches both in the buffet area and in the main lounge. Great buffet spread out, which could have been exceptional due to the party day. Those great big bedrooms upstairs are still there, but newly remodeled, and I had all of my 3 sessions in those. Not many changes since my last visit.

But that’s where the similarity ends. No naked woman to welcome me into the club and show me to the locker, although I did see this service provided later on to a first time visitor. Those incredible service standards that we all remember which made it into the top 3 or 4 of NRW clubs? Not very visible. The Bernd’s like scenes of debauchery on the couches in the lounge? There were 2 such scenes during the almost 3 hours that I was in the lounge, in both of which I was somehow involved. Those blonde and brunette nubile naked beauties parading around the room, then plopping into the first available lap? Nowhere to be seen. With the very loud carnival music constantly pounding away, there was little conversation and no banter between the barman, SP and customers which I remember as being one of the unique features about this club.

Due to the announced party, the place was hopping with mongers, but sadly, there were only 8 SP (Anita, Cassie, Kim, Leyla, Mandy, Minou, Pia, and one nameless whose picture isn’t on their website) in the house during my visit and with 20 or more mongers at all times, there was lots of waiting around while looking forlornly at men in towels. A number of the guys looked to be regulars, were well known by the staff and SP, and received cheerful welcomes and premium attention from the ladies. There seemed to never be women relaxing in the lounge, since almost as soon as one made her way into the lounge she was swept off to a room. The 2 SP that I was in particular hoping to see that day, Sabrina and Mahe were not in the house.

Not the way to revive a club.

Now, I don’t know if many of the regular SP didn’t show due to the festivities, but there was an announced party on their website and I assume from the food spread that they expected a larger than normal crowd,so they should have had proper staffing. And, while I am a firm believer that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, and given the right circumstances will dip my rod in almost any available pot, this was not a quality lineup in terms of looks. Certainly not reminiscent of the bevy of peroxide E. Europeans, and beautiful brunettes that this club used to be famous for. Fair not great. No ugly wenches but none that were spectacular either.

I was on a tight schedule and needed to plan well to fit 3 sessions in before my planned departure time. Saw a very beautiful dark haired spinner dressed as a Hawaiian dancer enter the lounge. Minou has a very pretty face, nice proportionate body, 32B, French/ German ancestry. She sat down not far away from me, so I called her over. Not the greatest conversationalist, but I sensed a spark beneath her reserved demeanor. No couch action at all. We went upstairs to one of those great big bedrooms with the great big bed. No DFK, no fingering, everything else OK. She gave a a fair BBBJ, slightly too long in the tooth, but OK, and pressed in for a quick closing. I demurred and went to town on her. As she began to get visibly excited she stopped the action and went back to working on me. At some point she rolled the condom on and climbed on top. She was hot and tight, but she had this reserved look on her face which was a turn off. I flipped her over, so I could look into her eyes and came at about the 35 minute mark and we laid there for another 5 minutes talking. So in total we were in the room for about 40 minutes, which she told me as we were leaving the room, and that she would charge a double session. She walked downstairs, without offering me a towel, so I went downstairs got myself a towel and went back upstairs to use the circular shower. Very unspectacular session and I thought to myself, certainly not up to the high standards that I would have expected at this club.

Luckily, that session was the low point of the day. Sat in the sauna, showered and ten enjoyed that great buffet and sat down in the main lounge. Not more than 10 inches away from me, and sharing the same small coffee table were Leyla and a German guy talking. Then they started kissing, then he she opened his towel and began jerking him off, then she climbed on to his head and he ate her out to her vocal delight, then she went down on all fours and sucked and sucked and sucked until he came in her mouth. When he was done, she motioned to me to hand her the tissues so she could empty her mouth. Instead I handed her one of those plastic party hats that were strewn around the room, and the entire room of people, who had been avidly watching the only show in town, cracked up as Leyla implored me with her eyes and hand motions to hand her the tissues, and I refused telling her to just spit it out in the hat.

Okay- that’s more like we had come to expect from this club in the past. I realized that if I didn’t take control of the situation, I would have to literally take matters into my own hand since there was no one in the lounge that even remotely seemed zimmer worthy. I had seen Mandy go off with a guy more than an hour earlier, but hadn’t come back yet. When I finally saw her enter the ladies changing room, I got up, waited and accosted her at the door to the girl's locker room to reserve a session. Nice person, very friendly, great attitude, Tall blonde, solidly built and with great smiling eyes. We sat on a couch in the buffet area, since this seemed to be her regular perch (I found out why- the 2 couches there are much more comfortable to sit on for long stretches than the couches in the lounge.), we talked and stroked each other’s arms for about 10 minutes, and then she said, I’d like to talk some more, but I’m booked for the rest of the day and if you want to go to a zimmer, now’s the time. So off we went again to the big master bedroom upstairs. She went right to her standard script, but I asked her to lie down and began to stroke down the length of her body. When I got to her feet, she sighed and really got into the massage/ toe sucking. I licked up her long legs to her honey pot and dove in. Very nice, but after a few minutes she asked me to stop, and began a similar treatment with me, stroking the length of my body then coming back to iseeu jr. I ended up spewing gobs onto her beautiful breasts. Nice session with a very nice girl who is constantly on demand. Another 40 minutes in the room, but this time there was no indication that I would be charged for the double session and I wasn’t.

I washed up again in the circular shower and went downstairs to the bar, where Eddy the owner was now holding court. He asked me my opinion and I told him how much we were all rooting for him to succeed in bringing the club back to its old self. I told him that so far from what I’d seen, it hasn’t gotten back to its old public raunchiness or service level. He said that I shouldn’t judge based on just one visit on a party day. Okay he has something of a point, but I would have expected that especially on Weiberfassnacht, a nonsensical holiday in which even the starchiest German lets his hair down, would be a chance for the club to show off its wilder side.

It was time for my last session and I knew that I wanted Leila, the only one of the current crop who seemed to remember and practice the free and open atmosphere that this club built its reputation on. I was sitting on one of the couches in the buffet area when she came back from a session and sat down in the lounge. I motioned for her to come and join me, she sat down splayed all over me hands in my crotch and we began to talk. She asked if I had been to the club before since when she saw me earlier I had looked familiar to her. I told her that we had gone to a zimmer together 4 or 5 years ago, but that I hadn’t been back to Babylon for almost 3 years. She told me that the club had almost totally died, but that since Eddy and his team had taken over, business was much better. She was then and still is a real fireplug- plenty of energy and no inhibitions. She opened my towel and began licking my balls, I asked her to turn around and dove down into her muschi. We became the only show in town. Eddy walked by and said some words of encouragement as did the thekefrau. After about 15 minutes of this, she suggested that we go to a zimmer so off we went, once again to that big upstairs bedroom. We get there, she lies down on her back, points between her legs, and says “continue” so I do. We had a wild, wild session, with multiple positions, falling off the bed at one point, lots of laughing and slurping. I’m not sure how I came, but I do remember ending the session with me giving her a body to body massage and foot massage, off the clock.

I showered again in the circular shower, went downstairs, dressed and paid for my sessions. Leyla saw me leaving and came over for a hug. Minou saw me and stayed where she was on the couch. Left a little after 7:30 p.m.

Summary: Its’ a good club, not great yet. Hands on management, decent physical facility except for those downstairs showers, some stars. It has a long way to go to reach its old stardom status, especially, if they don’t succeed in recruiting some more service oriented staff. I’ll wait for a bit before making a return journey, but, then I’ll keep my promise to Eddy to come back and check it out under more normal circumstances. Still, it will take some great turn of events for it to replace Bernd’s or even Oase at the top of my fave clubs list.

Jackyo

03-13-09, 08:50

I would love to see this club come back but after reading Iseeu's report I'm also not surprised that it is still a work in progress.

It never was a large club selection-wise but a decade ago it had very good recruiting standards and it always was an edited selection. No filler like you see at the larger clubs.

They used to price services at a premium to any other club in the area and I used to pay that pricing willingly.

Eddy does an excellent job trying to connect with his German and French speaking clientele. He posts actively, runs free entrance promotions. He listens to what you say and will write you back personally if you have a comment to share.

Now if recruiting would just fall into place.

Breadman

03-13-09, 22:11

[QUOTE=Jackyo]
It never was a large club selection-wise but a decade ago it had very good recruiting standards and it always was an edited selection. No filler like you see at the larger clubs.
[/QUOTE]

I was just at Oase and someone pointed out a sign in the club saying it had just passed its 10th year. The scene has changed drastically over the last decade with the arrival of Oase and World...and in the last couple of years with Goldentime's conception. What other clubs might come along in the next couple of years...and what clubs might fade away? I was informed the same owner owned both locations that Oase and World now reside. With this economy, who's to say another 'mansion' or 'villa' type property might come available.

Jackyo

03-17-09, 11:06

[QUOTE=Breadman]I was just at Oase and someone pointed out a sign in the club saying it had just passed its 10th year. The scene has changed drastically over the last decade with the arrival of Oase and World...and in the last couple of years with Goldentime's conception. What other clubs might come along in the next couple of years...and what clubs might fade away? I was informed the same owner owned both locations that Oase and World now reside. With this economy, who's to say another 'mansion' or 'villa' type property might come available.[/QUOTE]
Everything started out with Bernds and then there were the Red Carpet clubs in the Ruhr. So everything started out really small. Bernds has been around at least twenty years.

The trend over the years has been to larger and larger clubs with an emphasis on wellness facilities.

Someone should write a history sometime.

I'm not sure about the owner being the same of the locations of Oase and World. World used to be the villa of a furniture factory owner until it was bought and converted by HA in 2003.

Considering today's economic environment, launching a club these days would be an extremely risky venture.

Dedalus

03-18-09, 00:33

[QUOTE=Iseeu]I’ve been looking for an opportunity to get back to Babylon after all of these years, after hearing that its new management is committed to bringing it back to its former glory as one of the best of the NRW clubs. On a Thurs. a couple of weeks ago, I had about 5 hours free in the afternoon after a series of business meetings in Cologne so I went for a drive out to Elsdorf after not having been there for almost 3 years. It was Weiberfassnacht that day, the first day of carnival in NRW, and according to their website, they were having an all day Weiberfassnacht party which sounded promising. Despite my extended absence, I was able to drive straight to Elsdorf without the need for any navigation aids. There are some things your mind just never forgets.

Summary: Its’ a good club, not great yet. Hands on management, decent physical facility except for those downstairs showers, some stars. It has a long way to go to reach its old stardom status, especially, if they don’t succeed in recruiting some more service oriented staff. I’ll wait for a bit before making a return journey, but, then I’ll keep my promise to Eddy to come back and check it out under more normal circumstances. Still, it will take some great turn of events for it to replace Bernd’s or even Oase at the top of my fave clubs list.[/QUOTE]

Hey Iseeu,

Thanks so much for your Babylon update, and so sorry for taking long to express my gratitude. Hectic schedule, and what not. I'm sure that you can relate.

I sure was hoping to read a bit more positive things about the place besides a well-booked Mandy, however your report still triggered a number of fond memories and I do plan on making an Elsdorf run when time allows.

You know, I never really had a problem with the facilities there. In fact I always found it to be more comfy that Bernd's and many of the Red Carpets by a long sight. The "new" changing facilities certainly don't sound like an improvement though.

Again, thanks for the investigative reporting.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Bacon Sandwich

05-20-09, 00:46

Hi everyone,

I am considering a trip to Babylon, which is more directly on my path later this week, but also love GoldenTime, which is much further out of my way, but probably worth it. Has anyone been to Babylon since Iseeu's report a few months ago?

Thanks all for any information you can provide!

BS

Kwadroon

05-24-09, 20:18

[QUOTE=Bacon Sandwich]Hi everyone,

I am considering a trip to Babylon, which is more directly on my path later this week, but also love GoldenTime, which is much further out of my way, but probably worth it. Has anyone been to Babylon since Iseeu's report a few months ago?

Thanks all for any information you can provide!

BS[/QUOTE]Hi Bacon Sandwich,

I was there on the 8th of May, service is as good as ever. Sheila with her lovely huge bottom, Pan with her hot service, there isn't a part of your anatomy she won't lick, Tamara lovely, and Tina nice service as well, but doesn't speak any language but maygar. I also was entitled to a nice BBBJ From Layla.

Have fun!

Jbourne1234

07-02-09, 16:04

Out that way in the weekend, which club would be recommended?

Thanks

Jackyo

07-17-09, 23:59

[QUOTE=Jbourne1234]Out that way in the weekend, which club would be recommended?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
I've not been to Club M but there are a few ex-Bernds girls who now work there. It is run by Manuela who used to be a Thekenfrau at Bernds.

Babylon was an all time favorite of mine until about 2005 when I had a billing dispute. There have been positive reports coming out of it since it has been under new management.

Ortos

07-18-09, 06:32

[QUOTE=Jackyo]
Babylon was an all time favorite of mine until about 2005 when I had a billing dispute. There have been positive reports coming out of it since it has been under new management.[/QUOTE]

Babylon, as depicted in recent reports on another board, does however have a few negatives going on at the moment, namely severe rennovation of the facilities and a penchant for not having a very extensive line-up early in the day. However, you are most correct to point out that there are some very positive girls working there, including an ex-Bernd's girl, Mahe, who won the bbbj Queen award from one of the prominent German boards... By chance, will we see JackyO visiting this club at anytime in the near future to give his assessment of Babylon in 2009?

Ortos

Excess

07-18-09, 10:48

[QUOTE=Ortos]Babylon, as depicted in recent reports on another board, does however have a few negativesBy chance, will we see JackyO visiting this club at anytime in the near future to give his assessment of Babylon in 2009?

Ortos[/QUOTE]

An assessment will be appreciated as you mention Ortos, however this member for one is most pleased to once again see Jackyo's post and advice below. Greetings, Jackyo.

Ortos

07-18-09, 15:58

[QUOTE=Excess]An assessment will be appreciated as you mention Ortos, however this member for one is most pleased to once again see Jackyo's post and advice below. Greetings, Jackyo.[/QUOTE]

Yes, absolutely! I echo your sentiments...

Another point about Babylon: Never been there myself, however, on a recent visit to GT, I found myself sitting next to an ex-Babylon girl named Dhalia, or similar. I had previously heard of her reputation from other senior mongers a few months back, so when the unplanned opportunity arose and we started talking, I immediatly knew the door was open for a very hot hour...I walked through that door and was rewarded with one of the top sessions I've had in a long, long time. Quite an erotic girl with a top-notch service attitude. I really think you would have to try very hard not to be enamoured with this girl and have fully satisfying session.

My point: If she is representative of the type of service one receives at Babylon, then we should put it on the top of our clubs-to-try list! It's this type of session experience that, according to JackyO, one finds at the smaller fkks in/around NRW...

Ortos

Basketcase

07-19-09, 00:19

[QUOTE=Ortos]Another point about Babylon: Never been there myself, however, on a recent visit to GT, I found myself sitting next to an ex-Babylon girl named Dhalia, or similar. I had previously heard of her reputation from other senior mongers a few months back, so when the unplanned opportunity arose and we started talking, I immediatly knew the door was open for a very hot hour...I walked through that door and was rewarded with one of the top sessions I've had in a long, long time. Quite an erotic girl with a top-notch service attitude. I really think you would have to try very hard not to be enamoured with this girl and have fully satisfying session.

My point: If she is representative of the type of service one receives at Babylon, then we should put it on the top of our clubs-to-try list! It's this type of session experience that, according to JackyO, one finds at the smaller fkks in/around NRW... [/QUOTE]

I know Dahlia (Germany) at Golden Time. Yes, there are a few seniors that have a liking for Dahlia's charms. She is pretty quick in between sessions in the ladies room but apart from that she seems quite popular.

I expect to be making my debut visit to Babylon in July but most probably August when I have a visit scheduled. I have an eye on the website and on recent reports of the renovations from various forums.

Cheers

Jackyo

07-22-09, 15:22

[QUOTE=Ortos]Babylon, as depicted in recent reports on another board, does however have a few negatives going on at the moment, namely severe rennovation of the facilities and a penchant for not having a very extensive line-up early in the day. However, you are most correct to point out that there are some very positive girls working there, including an ex-Bernd's girl, Mahe, who won the bbbj Queen award from one of the prominent German boards... By chance, will we see JackyO visiting this club at anytime in the near future to give his assessment of Babylon in 2009?

Ortos[/QUOTE]
Hey Ortos,

It is on my list of clubs to drop in on in 09 but my current GF situation may not make this possible. Sigh...

There is something to be said for having regular sex with a chick who knows your every want and need. Being able to bareback her is a treat plus having a true GFE is not to be discounted either. I marvel at guys who write here that they can get a GFE from a chick in thirty minutes.

On the other hand, I miss the variety.

Marlow

07-23-09, 17:51

Yes, Jackyo, variety is the spice of life!
Agreed that the thirty minute GFE is an oxymoron, probably.
GFE as defined by working girls in Germany is - sex like your girlfriend gives you which is why you come to me for sex.
So, we shall be seeing you soon?

Bobo.fr

08-10-09, 23:02

1) Babylon's web site is only in German version : I would like to make sure that a No German-speaking guy (me) can do something there

2) Does the club have places for sun bathes ?

Thanks

Boomer10

08-11-09, 02:08

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]1) Babylon's web site is only in German version : I would like to make sure that a No German-speaking guy (me) can do something there

2) Does the club have places for sun bathes ?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I don't speak german and have never had any problems. Of the current lineup, I've only met Carmen. She speaks excellent english. Eddie (the manager/owner?) speaks very good english.

If you're asking about an out door area, not really. There's a very small area in the back but I don't recall seeing anyone out there.

Basketcase

08-26-09, 22:43

FKK Babylon
Elsdorf, Nord Rhein Westphalia
Friday, 21 August 2009

Privatclub Babylon
Oststrasse 12
50189 Elsdorf
Tel. 0049 -(0) -2274- 90 55 88

www.privatclub-babylon.de

Opening times:
Ma. - Do. 12:00 - 24:00
Vr. - Sa. 12:00 - 02:00
Zon. 14.00 - 22.00

Just off the A61 exit Bergheim

Prices in Babylon:
Entrance 50 €,
First 30 minutes € 50, a further 30 min 50 €, etc…
I did not enquire as to the cost of extras like CIM, Anal or COB.

Arrival 12:15
Departure 16:30
Time in club: 4 hours 15 minutes

I flew into Nord Rhein Westfalen (NRW) from my homeland. My flight cost me €5 one way so was a bit more expensive than I would like to pay. In the arrivals terminal I quickly sorted out 2 extra lots of euros from the Volksbank ATM to add to my residual euro stash from my visit to NRW 2 weekends ago. Sixti hired to me a BMW 118 which included a Sat Nav for €47.98 for 2 days. I had my own pre-programmed with hotels, pensions, bed & breakfasts, sauna clubs, partyteffs, FKKs, parenclubs, and brothels so I used my own Sat Nav.

The drive from the airport to Elsdorf took 1 hour 15 minutes. It was a nice drive and I was not in a hurry. I am on holiday. I arrived at Babylon at 11:40 and parked in the customer car park to the side of the building. The club opens at 12:00 so I sat in the car and read my historical novel which I had picked up in my homeland.

Eventually I decided it was safe to make an entrance. I went to the front door and buzzed the door and went through the security gate to reception. On finding that this was my first time in Babylon I was explained by the blond receptionist in English that Babylon was a naked club so men wore towels and women were naked or wore some lingerie. Entrance was €50 and included use of all the facilities and buffet food. Sessions with girls was €50 for half an hour. I was given two towels, one larger one which I assumed was the one that you wrapped around your waist and a smaller hand towel which I expected was the one that you used for drying yourself after a shower. The blond receptionist then took my name and wrote it on a card which I expect was my tally sheet for sessions which I would pay on departure.

The blond receptionist asked the only lady working Gabriela to show me around. Gabriela took me to the basement and showed me to my locker (number 3) and also pointed out the saunas, the whirl pool, the showers and the shoes. I was not sure where to get fresh towels from but saw in the laundry room that was in the basement that it was stacked with towels.

After I changed into naked and had showered I went back to the ground level and was taken in hand by Gabriela who got me a drink and showed me that I could help myself to the lunch buffet.

Facilities included a very large Kino and many couches and beds. I can see that this Kino is one of the best I have seen of any FKK or sauna club and is up there with Palace except there is no tiered seating. I spent an hour here just lying on a bed and lazily watched Private’s Uranus Experiment part II from 1999 with Silvia Saint taking it up the trade’s man’s entrance.

Babylon has a nice above ground whirlpool with places for 4 persons and maybe 8 at a squeeze if the other 4 were naked ladies. There was a nice few settings for bubbles, jets and a waterfall. The back garden is not overlooked, but the front garden facing onto the road I suspect is overlooked by the house across the street and the tour bus company adjacent since the fence is so low.

There is a bio sauna at 45 degrees Celsius and a sauna at 95 degrees Celsius. I saw Gabriela fuck a friendly German guy in the bio sauna after they had gotten frisky in the whirl pool. Gabriela had asked me to get into the whirl pool too but I though three was a crowd. These are good facilities. Babylon also has its own in house masseur. The locker room was clean and the lockers were large enough to fit your sports bag if you have to being that in as well.

Showers were all being done up nicely both in the basement and in the upstairs area. There is even a sun bed which is pay per use.

The lounge area for contact was quite stylish with couches all around and coffee tables for plates of food and drink. There was a bar and was also where the sound system was kept for the music selection. In the lounge area was also the single pole and podium for pole dancing by the girls. Eddy has done a lot of good work to improve the place.

I spent a bit of time in the back garden reading my local newspapers and enjoying the sunshine.

The hot food was available around 15:00 and it was nice with pork patties, potato fritters with toppings of either bacon and onion or smoked salmon and caviar. I sat with the German guy on the outside bench table in the garden that opens onto the lounge area.

The starting line up of 3 girls for 13:00 was down one girl who had called in sick. Gabriela was the only girl available at 12:00.

I was on the look out for Sabine (Germany) and also Mandy (Poland). I did not see Sabine and Eddie told me that Mandy like most of his Polish girls were on holidays. I was fine with this as I knew it being August that customer numbers were down and so the ladies would also be down in attendance as well.

Eddie and I chatted and I got to understand some of his insight into the business, the girls and what the club is like and will be like. There can be up to 17 girls on a top night and on party nights maybe 100 customers.

I think I will keep Babylon on my club circuit list and look in on how it going. I really like the facilities and I can see it is a good club. I really liked the Kino and would love to do sessions in that big and open room with couches and beds in abundance. Keep up the good work Eddie.

*** Line up before 16:30 ***

1. Anita (Romania), 21 years, a tender or sympathetic looking girl, light brown-haired, blue-green eyes and a C cup size breasts, 1.65 m tall.
2. Gabriela (South America), 24 years, quite a beauty with long black hair, dark brown eyes and a B cup size breast and Latina looks, 1.65 m tall and 54 kg.
3. Jessy? (Poland) 24 years young, blond, 1.60 m tall, blue eyes and A cup breasts.
4. Kim (Germany?), 29 years, tall blonde, leggy.
5. May (Thailand) 22 years, a pretty girl, slim build that speaks German and Thai.

Dedalus

08-26-09, 23:25

[QUOTE=Basketcase]FKK Babylon
Elsdorf, Nord Rhein Westphalia
Friday, 21 August 2009

I was on the look out for Sabine (Germany) and also Mandy (Poland). I did not see Sabine and Eddie told me that Mandy like most of his Polish girls were on holidays. I was fine with this as I knew it being August that customer numbers were down and so the ladies would also be down in attendance as well.

[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the Babylon update!!!

Word on the street is that Sabine is back at Samya. Can't guarantee it though.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Ekliges Lauern

08-27-09, 01:27

[QUOTE=Basketcase]FKK Babylon
Elsdorf, Nord Rhein Westphalia
Friday, 21 August 2009
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Did you session with anyone?

Basketcase

08-27-09, 08:56

[QUOTE=Dedalus]Thanks for the Babylon update!!!

Word on the street is that Sabine is back at Samya. Can't guarantee it though.

Cheers,

Dedalus[/QUOTE]

Dedalus,

Thank you for the supporting comment on the write up.

I will be looking into Samya pretty soon on one of the better days of the week. Sabine is not listed on the Samya models list unless she is called something else at Samya. No problem. I'll see what I will see at Samya.

I am even considering Bernds.

Basketcase

08-27-09, 09:06

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]Did you session with anyone?[/QUOTE]

Ekliges Lauern,

Session? As in actually going to a room with any sex worker or performing in public whilst at Babylon with an orgasm ending by me? Sorry, then I left Babylon unpopped. A bit like what happened at Partytreff Onasbruck and Sauna club Acapulco.

I hope I have better luck at Samya www.samya.de
and maybe also Pauschal sauna club www.pauschal-saunaclub.de which are also on the trip schedule. I am building up confidence to visit Bernds www.bernds-sauna-club.de.

Definite visit venues so far are:

Golden Time www.goldentime.de
Oase www.fkk-oase.de
World www.fkk-world.de
Villa Vertigo www.villavertigo.de

Potential for Palace due to my arrival time in FFM. www.the-palace.de

Grtz,

Creature2

08-27-09, 09:39

[QUOTE=Basketcase]Ekliges Lauern,

Session? As in actually going to a room with any sex worker or performing in public whilst at Babylon with an orgasm ending by me? Sorry, then I left Babylon unpopped. A bit like what happened at Partytreff Onasbruck and Sauna club Acapulco.

I hope I have better luck at Samya www.samya.de
and maybe also Pauschal sauna club www.pauschal-saunaclub.de which are also on the trip schedule. I am building up confidence to visit Bernds www.bernds-sauna-club.de.

Definite visit venues so far are:

Golden Time www.goldentime.de
Oase www.fkk-oase.de
World www.fkk-world.de
Villa Vertigo www.villavertigo.de

Potential for Palace due to my arrival time in FFM. www.the-palace.de

Grtz,[/QUOTE]

BC,

When do you plan to pay a visit to Paschal sauna club?
I will be around this weekend and I will text you when I land to NRW.

Regards,
C2

Basketcase

08-27-09, 09:43

[QUOTE=Creature2]BC,

When do you plan to pay a visit to Paschal sauna club?
I will be around this weekend and I will text you when I land to NRW.

Regards,
C2[/QUOTE]

I'll go when you and your travel companions go. I'll PM you.

Dedalus

08-27-09, 12:09

[QUOTE=Basketcase]Dedalus,

Thank you for the supporting comment on the write up.

I will be looking into Samya pretty soon on one of the better days of the week. Sabine is not listed on the Samya models list unless she is called something else at Samya. No problem. I'll see what I will see at Samya.

I am even considering Bernds.[/QUOTE]

Goes by the name Leni at Samya. She's there now.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Basketcase

08-27-09, 12:57

[QUOTE=Dedalus]Goes by the name Leni at Samya. She's there now.

Cheers,

Dedalus[/QUOTE]

Thank you Dedalus. You are a goldmine of information. I can see Leni / Sabine is working tonight, Friday and Saturday. I will make a trip to Samya. There is at least one guy I know who will around in Samya, he is a veteran of Samya, so I will go as his wingman.

I will provide a report of my premiere visit to Samya. I am told Leni / Sabine has one of the best proportioned and formed arses in NRW. I have got to see this!!!

Mambomike

02-19-10, 12:29

Spent Wed evening until well beyond closing and had three very GFE like sessions with Stella, Tina, and Celina (Ro). It was a very slow night, but the girls were nice (6-8) and gave good service. 50 per 30 min, 50 for next 30 min, 25 for extras. Facilities were nice, plenty of room to relax, food was cold and not too good. I will write a more detailed report later.

Mambomike

02-25-10, 14:18

After leaving Duisburg and checking into a hotel near Koln, I headed out to Babylon in Elsdorf, following my GPS but not really knowing where I was going. Not far off the main highway, my GPS told me to turn left – but there was no left to be found, only a long steel barrier. Nonetheless, there was another left about 800 m further down the road and my GPS recalculated a route right to the Bablylon door about 18:00 hours, with a bright blue neon sign, saying “Sauna Club”. Although there was parking available on the street, I pulled into and parked in the gravel lot behind the club, lit with an overhead streetlamp. There didn’t seem to be many cars around, but I knew the club might be slow on a Wednesday evening.

Inside, I found spacious, nice facilities, after paying the 60 Euro entry fee. The thekefrau (not bad looking, by the way) did not speak very much English, but asked one of the girls to explain the system and costs, then pointed me toward the lockers and showers in the basement. There I found good showers with plenty of water on a timed valve, half size lockers arranged up and down, but no shelf inside. The showers need a place for towel and toiletries, but I made due with a shelf next to an opaque window. Upon donning my towel and coming upstairs, the girl that translated for me took me around the club where I found very large, well appointed rooms; a nice lounge on the ground floor, a nice sauna and whirlpool area in the basement (immediately adjacent to the showers), and a very large, well appointed kino upstairs. Even though it was winter, I looked for and found nothing more than a very small fenced in area outside for summertime relaxation. As explained by my guide, Babylon follows the NRW procedure – you must approach girl. They will not approach you, with some exception in the downstairs hot tub. When taking a girl and room to play, a key is issued with a number and girls report number, time, and extras to front desk where each customer runs a tab, checked out and paid upon departure (Bernds system). Eddie, the manager, is a nice, friendly guy, very attentive to customers needs. During my stay, I found the management was truly interested in their guest’s comfort and satisfaction, even though I found that few of the girls spoke much English.

Food: Peas, green beans, corn, beets, fish balls soaked in vinegar (tasted as narly as it sounds), canapés (good), café machine (good). The food layout could have been good, but everything was cold by the time I was there at 19:00 hours.

Pricing 50 each 30 minutes (second 30 minutes is NOT discounted), 25 for standard extras, anal not sure but probably available for a higher fee. About a dozen girls were present, some wearing towels, a few nude, most looking totally bored. Range 5-7, one 7.5 and a 9 (Cheyenne). Not there from my TDL were Michelle, Mahe, and Christina. This was apparently a slow night on a Wednesday evening and the only hobbyists were me and 2 guys most of the night. There was a group of four that came in for the evening, paid most of their attention to video machines, and did not take any girls. What’s up with that?

Improvements to Babylon would include: Go to standard NRW pricing 50+25+25, even if just for specials or a special day of the week to battle nearby competition (Samya, GT, Villa Vertigo, Living Room). Have the girls interact with customers more, just introducing themselves without pressure to go to the zimmer (Hesse procedure). Warm up the common areas more so the girls walk around without towels.

Sessions - all three GFE-like

Cheyenne – I saw Cheyenne sitting on the couch near the entrance, across from the food bar. She was a very pretty girl, cute, nice smile, slim, tanned, 34C. She was friendly and we talked a bit about ourselves and what we liked. She informed me that she only does cbj and does not allow daty. Too bad, because that is not my style and I thanked her for talking with me.

Stella of Germany (Service 8; looks 7.5; http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=116&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1) – 5’9”, big, strong, girl with no fat, blonde short hair, pretty smile. I saw Stella come out of the girl’s changing area next to the entrance desk, but I wasn’t sure if she had just started work, or had been there all the time. She seemed friendly, outgoing, and attractive, so I decided to approach her, after my introduction to Cheyenne. Stella was wearing a towel around her waist, but otherwise was nude in heels. As she leant over the front desk, eating her yogurt and talking with the thekefrau, I came up from behind and started a gentle massage of her back and neck, which she seemed to like, peeking over her shoulder at me and smiling. Before long, the thekefrau brought some oil over to us and poured some into my hands to continue massaging Stella. Although spoken in German, there was a lot of kidding around between the nearby girls, the thekefrau, andh Stella about the treatment I was giving Stella, with the thekefrau was saying that she was next (and I would have oblidged).

Before long and without saying anything, Stella reached back under my towel and started playing with mambo and his growing interest, right at the front desk (now this is a much more promising start). And before long, Stella also pulled her towel off and was rubbing mambo on her smooth ass, taking her time to tease, before turning around and giving me a nice DFK, with mambo peaking out of his hiding place while the girls watched. Well how could I resist?

Off to the zimmer upstairs, we finally found a room that was a little warmer than the rest, laying our towels down and resumed some DFK and mutual fondling. Before long, Stella had me on my back and began attending to mambo with her mouth. She had a nice technique, twisting her mouth as she withdrew, but not exceptionally deep, including some nice BLS. While administering oral, Stella applied a gummi on her fingers and started playing with my backdoor. Inquiring whether it was ok, she proceeded to massage me from below while continuing her bbbj. Some may find this technique unsustainable, but to me it is simply nice, not something that would bring mambo to a storming climax. After applying gummi to mambo, Stella took a nice pounding in doggie and mish, followed by a satisfying COB finish onto her tits. We definitely went overtime into the second 30 minutes and with the COB finish, Stella’s session cost 125 euro.

Tina of Hungary (Service 9; looks 8; http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=112&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1), 5’7”, dark hair, deep tan, 34b. Tina came into the kino behind me and stood close behind, and asked if I might be interested in her. Although I wasn’t quite ready after eating some food following my session with Stella, I invited her to sit with me in the kino, while the movie was playing. Although anyone could walk in on us, the kino was empty. After a bit of snuggling, Tina swung around and began a nice bbbj with bls, first kneeling aside of me and then kneeling between my open legs, with plenty of room on the wide kino couches, followed by some enjoyable daty. Tina tasted very clean and has nice meaty lips. After a bit, Tina turned around again to continue her bbbj, before rising up to for some enjoyable dfk while rubbing her body on mine, at one point grinding herself on mambo. Offering a gummi, she applied it with hand and mouth, then tried to insert a somewhat uncooperative mambo, even with a try in doggie position. Whether she was pretty tight, or maybe mambo was still recuperating from his thorough discharge onto Stella, I cannot tell. The trooper she was, Tina re-intitiated her bbbj, but one thing that was becoming increasingly irritating to mambo was her frequent use of hands, with a jack hammer motion. Well, this was not really going in the right direction, I could tell, yet I couldn’t get her to slow down and take it easy. As a result, we ended the 30 minute session, total cost 50 euro.

Would I repeat? Well under somewhat different circumstances and recuperative time – yeah.

Selina of Romania (Service 7.5; looks 7; http://babylon-privatclub.info/cms/front_content.php?idart=146&idcat=2&lang=1&client=1). After the kino session with Tina, it was just after 11 pm and I decided to relax in the hot tub before leaving. I wasn’t looking to session again, since I already had been with four girls that day. Sitting and relaxing for about 15 minutes, a pretty dark blonde girl came down, put her things on a table and took a shower. I thought oh well, she is just getting ready to go home. But after showering, she comes over and gets in the hot tub and sits in the jets on the other side of the tub. Our feet touch and I lift her feet onto my legs, then begin giving her a foot massage. So far nice, but not committed to a session, which at that point I really didn’t think I had in myself, after the no babies performance with Tina. After the foot rub, she comes over to me and starts rubbing her body on mine, taking her time and increasingly getting mambo interested after an hour or so after Tina’s hack job.

Selena gave nice soft DFKs and was rubbing her body on mine underwater, even taking mambo between her tits, before suggesting we find a room. Obviously, somewhere during this interaction, I had already committed to a session with Selena, but I’m not quite sure exactly when that was – maybe somewhere between the foot rub and kiss? Initially I suggested that we finish on the wide bed next to the sauna and hot tub in the basement, but Selena declined, whether due to the excessive public location right next to the men’s shower, or due to the cold air, I cannot tell. No matter – we went upstairs and actually she led me to the wide bed at the back of the kino, where we continued our session. Most everything went like the standard program for me with a nice soft bbbj (not deep, using hands) with bls, followed by 69, and sex in various positions, with an enjoyable cum inside Selena. Several times, I asked her how much time we had left, at first 14 minutes, then 10, which I though was within a very generous 30 minutes, since it was so late and Selena seemed to enjoy the company. But when we finished, she indicated it was a double time session, costing 100 euro, including time in the pool. Well, I really couldn’t argue, because by then it was 12:45 and most of the other girls downstairs had gone home long ago, but I had no idea of the passage of time during our session.

On checkout, the thekefrau asked for 225 euro, including the CIM extra with Stella. I said that I had not CIM with Stella. The thekefrau and Eddie were going to bring out Stella, but then I thought about it and with the COB finish (which may have been an extra), I didn’t think it would be worth haggling over the 25 euros.

Total cost 225 euros plus 60 euro entrance.

I liked Bablylon a lot (even in retrospect after visiting Samya, Bernds, and Oase), but with a few slight modifications it could be a really nice, active club. If it were me, I’d tear out the parking lot in the back and replace it with a nice patio, small pool, and backyard sunning area. And with a modest change to the price structure, Babylon could restore itself to its former heyday.