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BlueSeoul
01-30-09, 06:21
Hi Bluesoul. Good report. Hi Bluesoul,

I'll be in AC in 3 weeks. Did you happen to see any stunners with big tits in any of the bars you mentioned?

ThanksUsually big tits come with big hips or bellies so I don't really take note of those girls. But it seemed like each bar had one or two fatties if you don't care about the face you could have lots of selection. Actually the waitress from agasya with short hair had about C cup breasts.

There's not a lot of 'enhancement' in AC so the biggest boobs I saw were on the ladyboys hanging around the disco, but you're probably not into that. I did see a couple of stunners with nice big boobs, but they had already been barfined so I don't know where they work.

The first picture of the girl in yellow dress is the door girl from viper room. The next two are the girl from subic. And the two girls are the runners from carousel. The one on the right looks like zhang ziyi, you know from rush hour 2, etc. The last picture is the lobby at pacific breeze.

Poopbunny
01-30-09, 06:25
I'm guessing the asian version of Penelope Cruz mentioned, is Penny on the photo from he does not know where but possibly Broadway, with a lot of wood inside with a stage in the middle.

The one labeled Ziyi (after actress Zhang Ziyi) is Lulu from Carousel. She is on the right of the photo. Her best friend's name is Jocelyn (left), also from Carousel.

They were my first double (in my case they did overnite LT with me).

Now that I see Blueseoul has doubled with them too, makes me wonder if they are available separately or if they only come packaged together as a happy meal.

Hk Traveler
01-30-09, 06:28
Hi guys,

I arrived yesterdays in AC and to be honnest I am a bit disappointed.

I have been to many places in Asia, sure there in AC there is agreat huge choice of young girls, but the 3 I get from now are so inexperimented that they don't even know how and want to give a blow-job. They usually get afraid of the size of my equipement which has nothing special.

Any good tip to find an experimented enough angel?

Warbucks
01-30-09, 08:02
Hi guys,

I arrived yesterdays in AC and to be honnest I am a bit disappointed.

I have been to many places in Asia, sure there in AC there is agreat huge choice of young girls, but the 3 I get from now are so inexperimented that they don't even know how and want to give a blow-job. They usually get afraid of the size of my equipement which has nothing special.

Any good tip to find an experimented enough angel?

A lot of the girls are young and experienced. At first I thought this was a minus but it is most definitely a plus. Talk to the owner of the bars, buy them a drink and tell them what you are looking for.

Nvslim
01-30-09, 08:58
Very Good Story but which girl is which in your pictures?

Thanks



You don't have to quote a whole page of text to ask a one line question. Edit out what's not needed.

Slim

D Cups
01-30-09, 16:16
D Cups have you ever found any D Cups in the Philippines. The Philippines has the smallest girls w/ the smallest tits of anywhere I've been. I remember on my first trip I spent about a month in AC, and got tired of all the small tits, so I went out to every bar looking for big boobs. I only found about 5 pair that had good faces and thin bodies in all AC. (I'm guessing there is probably a lot of bigger girls w/ big tits though).

What other countries do you go to for the big tits? Which countries are the best in Asia? In the world? Thanks!Oh! Let me answer your question, Big Johnson. The country I have found the biggest tits (outside the silicone headliners in the US which I like , too) in is Brazil. I was there a long time ago but am planning a trip to Rio in the next 5 years or so. You can find them on the beach (wearing dental floss for bikinis) or the massage parlor there.

As far as Asia, ya, Thailand (Bangkok & Pattya) had some pretty C cuppers with slim bodies and great attitudes but I was only there for a long weekend so my time was too short.

Even when stationed at Osan Korea I found a big-tiited girl that was hellafun. There is a headliner from Korea that now lives in Vegas named Minka that claims to be the biggest breasted Asian in the world and I believe it. I had her in a strip club in San Francisco and she gave me the best wall dance I ever had. Pulled out my German sausage and got me off between those missiles all while standing up against the back wall of the Market Street Cinema. Mammaries!

Man, I am also going to MedellinColombia which is the plastic surgery capital of South America so you know there are a lot of big ones there. I think the Colombian girls are quite beautiful, too.

I know a lot of guys don't like bolted on tits but it doesn't matter to me. Maybe the editor will eventually let me start a forum dedicated exclusively to giant boobs for us boob hounds. Woof!

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Guoren
01-31-09, 11:34
I thought Foxy's Bar was great in the beginning; lots of you fuckables dancing half naked and low pressure on the drinks and stuff. After barfining a girl named Dora (real name is Jackyn) we go back to the hotel. After some fun and one pop, Dora starts to cry and says she wants to go for a drink. Ends up she makes a beeline for her home base at Foxy's and before bolting inside she starts making up a pile of shit-ass excuses as to why she was back so soon. The mama comes outside and says I did this and that to her, all of which was bullshit, then the Bule boss comes outside for a cigarette like a fucking mafioso. I can walk away from 1200 pesos, and I will also walk away from Foxy's Bar.

This being my first time in Angeles, this is a shit-ass place. Every single person, from the street kids to the adults, is on the take for something. The only thing worthwhile was the guy who made BBQ chicken that would make the Colonel sob in his grave.

Acqua
02-01-09, 03:15
I thought Foxy's Bar was great in the beginning; lots of you fuckables dancing half naked and low pressure on the drinks and stuff. After barfining a girl named Dora (real name is Jackyn) we go back to the hotel. After some fun and one pop, Dora starts to cry and says she wants to go for a drink. Ends up she makes a beeline for her home base at Foxy's and before bolting inside she starts making up a pile of shit-ass excuses as to why she was back so soon. The mama comes outside and says I did this and that to her, all of which was bullshit, then the Bule boss comes outside for a cigarette like a fucking mafioso. I can walk away from 1200 pesos, and I will also walk away from Foxy's Bar.I had a like experience with a chick from Foxy's about a year ago and haven't set foot in the place since. That being said, the great thing about AC is that if you mentally cross one bar off your list due to poor experience, there are a hundred others still out there. True most in the Fields and Permimeter areas is on the take, but that is also the case in Thailand, Cambodia, and pretty much everywhere else famous for mongering. Know the watch outs and be mindful of the schemes but you can still enjoy yourself greatly.

Bickers
02-01-09, 03:27
I am heading to AC in a few weeks time and am looking at staying at the Ramada Hotel in San Narciso St. Malabanias, opposite Tiger Hotel. It meets all my requirements - pool, free wi-fi & mineral water, 24 hr room service and safety box.

Is this location close to the action? Anyone stayed there before?

My alternative is the Swiss Chalet but they are more expensive by 500p/night.

I also posted this in the Angeles City Hotel thread but there aren't any other posts in there.

Aussiec
02-01-09, 09:48
Well this is Angeles City my friend. The best advice that can be given is that you have to go with the flow here. You will NEVER win an agument here even if your in the right. Thats problably lesson #1. If a bar fine jets on you especially if your new to the seen then move on to the next. Its all part of the game. My suggestion is play the bars but have one or 2 that you get to know the Mamason and Papason and build a repore with them over time. They will take care of you and the needs you want especially if you spend money in there place. For me I have great communication with Mamasons at Champayne and even had one bad barfine they recommended and YES they were the ones to offer me refund or another girl. But understand I been there many many times in last few years to get that respect. Make sure you have understanding with girl before you leave bar in what you want. Full service? BJ? ST? LT. That way you have no misunderstandings.

Good luck!

Bob Down
02-01-09, 10:48
I thought Foxy's Bar was great in the beginning; lots of you fuckables dancing half naked and low pressure on the drinks and stuff. After barfining a girl named Dora (real name is Jackyn) we go back to the hotel. After some fun and one pop, Dora starts to cry and says she wants to go for a drink. Ends up she makes a beeline for her home base at Foxy's and before bolting inside she starts making up a pile of shit-ass excuses as to why she was back so soon. The mama comes outside and says I did this and that to her, all of which was bullshit, then the Bule boss comes outside for a cigarette like a fucking mafioso. I can walk away from 1200 pesos, and I will also walk away from Foxy's Bar.

This being my first time in Angeles, this is a shit-ass place. Every single person, from the street kids to the adults, is on the take for something. The only thing worthwhile was the guy who made BBQ chicken that would make the Colonel sob in his grave.

Guoren,

Don't let one bad experience get you down, you just need to do some checking before picking a girl. If you see a girl you like ask the mamasan or a waitress about the girl. Then talk to the girl to see if she is interested or not.

Your not the first and won't be the last guy to have a barfine go bad.

As for AC being a shit-ass place. Well I am not sure any of us go there to take pictures of well known landmarks.

Lastly your in a third world country, regardless of your wealth or lack of it in my case. You will always be considered wealthy and thus taking money from you or asking money from you is deemed ok because in their eyes you have plenty of money and you don't need all of it.

Go out and have fun and don't let AC or PI get you down.

Guy Wif Attitude
02-01-09, 12:10
Thanks Amavida and Key Master,

I have been using my Australian laptop in Philippines with no problems.

Stayed 3 nights at Donald Paul Apartelle on Surla St (1, 500 peso for the deluxe room with private balcony facing the small pool in the centre courtyard). The place is opposite the Hygiene center. Was interesting to watch the girls come and go. Free entertainment from the main balcony. I would recommend this place as good value for money and I think they give a 5% discount for 1 week stays. The room was big, clean and modern (albeit it felt a little sparsely furnished) and I would stay there again. Had some initial problems getting confirmation of my booking by email. I don't think their staff are properly trained yet, but nontherless they are a friendly bunch and one of the desk girls was flirting with me a lot (must be because I'm Gwapo, hehe). The pool is pretty much unusable, it is way too small for anything (unless you just wanna sit in an oversized bathtub). It is dark walking down Santos St to get to the hotel at night, so get a Trike to avoid being stapped in the shadows by the increasing number of pinoy males hanging around that area.

Angeles never disappoints me. As far as value for money goes, you can get what you want in AC, as long as you play it cool with all the other bullshit that goes on (the incessant touts, beggars, ladyboys, deadbeats on the street).

Police presence is MINIMAL now. What a change from a year ago.

The focus of this trip for me was the Perimeter bars of which I had limited experience to date.

Enjoyed Lost in Asia and Gentlemans club the most. Barfined 2 girls on seperate nights at Gentlemans club. This is where the party is, good music, a good vibe, and a fair amount of barfinable material. Go early to get the pick of the crop. 1, 100 peso barfine.

Of the other bars, I still enjoy Crystal Palace, as I'm friendly with some of their waitresses, also Blue Nile is always good in my opinion. Did not enjoy Golden Nile so much, there is too much distance between the stage and the customers to interact with the girls. At least at Blue Nile you can get up close to the table dancers who I think are pretty hot most of the time.

Skytrax is great too. If you can dance, chicks keep giving you the eye and a smile. Great pickup joint where a lot of the bargirls end up at the end of their shift.

3 days in AC went too quick. I can easily spend upto a week there and not get bored. It really is pussy paradise. And value for money (all up I was spending around $150 AUD per day).

The Fly the Bus from Swagman broke down on the way to Manila. Got delayed by 1 hr as they had to get a mechanic to change the fuel pump at the halfway point rest stop. It was one of the old buses (it had a 5 track player on the dashboard. Whoah that is before my time! ) People were grumbling and asking for refunds (the poor waitress told them to take it up with management at Ermita Swagman. I didn't stick around to find out if they were succesful).

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Dan 357
02-01-09, 19:41
I thought Foxy's Bar was great in the beginning; lots of you fuckables dancing half naked and low pressure on the drinks and stuff. After barfining a girl named Dora (real name is Jackyn) we go back to the hotel. After some fun and one pop, Dora starts to cry and says she wants to go for a drink. Ends up she makes a beeline for her home base at Foxy's and before bolting inside she starts making up a pile of shit-ass excuses as to why she was back so soon. The mama comes outside and says I did this and that to her, all of which was bullshit, then the Bule boss comes outside for a cigarette like a fucking mafioso. I can walk away from 1200 pesos, and I will also walk away from Foxy's Bar.

This being my first time in Angeles, this is a shit-ass place. Every single person, from the street kids to the adults, is on the take for something. The only thing worthwhile was the guy who made BBQ chicken that would make the Colonel sob in his grave.Talking about scams, I have a good one also. On my last visit to Manila I had a few Filipino men stop me in malls and say "Hi, I'm a security guard at your hotel" and then tell me about how they need some money to buy a birthday present or some other excuse. I fell for it the first couple of times and gave them p100 or so because I don't pay particular attention to who the hotel staff is. After awhile I realized that my hotel can't have 30 fucking security guards. From then on I when one would stop me I would ask him which hotel he worked at. They knew I had them at that point and would just give a vague answer take a wild guess. It was easy at that point to just tell them "sorry but that's not where I am staying" and walk away. I have a few more stories but this is one of the more humorous ones so far.

McGillicutty
02-02-09, 05:33
Day One

I arrived in Manila at 10pm. My driver from Pacific Breeze was waiting for me right where the hotel said he should be and we had an uneventful trip to Angeles. I like that it takes longer to get out of Manila and onto the expressway than it does to get to Angeles. The driver kept making polite conversation the whole trip. Trying to find out if I was married or if I had a girlfriend and what kind of women I prefer. Maybe he is trying to make a sale or something, who knows. We get to Angeles around midnight. I get setup I'm my room, put my valuables in the safe then head over to my single favorite place in Angeles, Shano's. Although the waitresses are on the menu, I do not partake of the staff here. This is my favorite place to relax when I am not mongering and I do not wish to sully the atmosphere there, too much drama. I prefer it when ALL the women flirt with you instead of just the one you barfined the other night.

After some delicious fish and chips, I went on the prowl. Checked out the big, glitzy bars first. Carousel, Doll House, and Atlantis. Did not really see anything I liked so I started the Fields Ave crawl but decided to start on the other end of Fields. I strolled into the Viper Room and a dancer really caught my eye. I was about to offer to buy her a drink when I noticed a little hottie roll up on stage with a lovely little ghetto booty. It was not fat, just very well proportioned. I invited her over for a drink. We talked a bit, her english was not the best. I did not really mind. Eventually a waitress asked me to barfine her. I told them that it was up to the girl, they do get a choice. The girl replied in tagalog to the waitress that she did not want to go. Man, was that waitress mad. She started yelling at the girl, the only thing I could make out was a smattering of english that amounted to stupid. There was a time that I would get really upset when a girl would not want to go with me. To be honest, I would rather find out a girl does not want to leave with me at the bar than in my room. The waitress asks me if there is another girl there I would like to barfine. I started scanning for the first chick I had spotted and noticed a rather hot dancer snuck up with the second group of dancers. Nice butt, nice tits. I pointed and three waitresses swarmed over to get her. They brought her over and sat her down next to me. I asked her if she would like a drink, she said yes. One waitress left to go get it. Right away one of the waitress began interrogating her in tagalog. The waitress looked at me politely and told me that she did not want to leave with me. Wow, did not even get the chance to break the ice. She rattled off the usual list of reasons (never been with a westerner before, afraid you are too big, etc etc). I wish they would just save it and tell me she thinks I am repulsive. I really don't care. There is so much "pussy to crush" here it is ridiculous to fret over the few girls that do not want to have sex with you. Almost as quickly as she came, the waitresses practically carried the girl off. Shortly after she was gone her drink arrived. The waitress said not to worry, it would be for the next girl I picked.

By now the waitress was really starting to feel bad for me and was being very apologetic and was asking me to not be mad and pleaqse pick another girl. She ended her sentence by telling me that any of the waitresses would be happy to leave with me. I went back to the first girl that caught my eye. She was practically dragged over by the waitresses and I though, "Great, here we go again. " I asked her if she would like a drink and she said yes. Oddly enough there was one right in front of her. Before I even got the chance to break the ice and let her know that I am not a sexual predator looking to violate every hole on her body the waitresses start their onslaught again. They told me she has never been with a western man and was scared. I talked to here for a little bit. I assured her that I would not do anything she was not comfortable with and she agreed to leave with me. What can I say? I am picky and will sacrifice a little in the "bed" department for a little in the "looks" department. However, that is not to say that I will accept anything in the "bitchy" department. I have no desire to be with a good looking snob. Anyway, off to the Pacific Breeze.

We got to my room. I told her I was going to take a shower and asked her if she would like to take one. She replied that she would. I showered. For a minute I though she was going to join me. She stood outside the shower for a bit with her towel wrapped around her midsection but waited for me to finish before going in. As she showered I gave myself a quick shave. My facial hair is really abrasive and can chew up a filipinas face in no time. We settled into bed and proceeded to make out like two teenagers. Very passionate, very deep kisses. We moved on to the main event. We started out in missionary and she started to complain the minute I got anything in past the head of my penis. To be fair, she was really really tight. It did not even feel like I had a condom on. I asked her if anyone had ever gone down on her, she said no. I went downstairs for a little bit until she was super hot and super wet. I climbed on and was able to go in the whole way with no complaint. I came in no time. Like I said, very, very tight. We rolled over to sleep a bit. I woke up to her making out with me. I manipulated her with my fingers again until she was ready to go another round. This time I could barely touch her without her wincing in pain. I realize some guys would take real satisfaction in crushing some young girls pussy. It just isn't my thing I guess. I asked her if she would give me a blow job. She smiled and said yes. Her technique is a little lacking but all in all it was not a bad blow job. Not a bad BBBJ with CIM. We went back to sleep. We awoke around 2pm and she wanted to go again but told me she hurt down there. I asked her she would give me another blow job. She enthusiastically agreed. Again, not a bad BBBJ with CIM. We both showered. I gave her money for a trike and we split up. I headed to Shano's to get some lunch/dinner.

Day Two

Completely uneventful. Not even worth mentioning. Sorry fellow mongers.

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Cunning Stunt
02-02-09, 06:02
Talking about scams, I have a good one also. On my last visit to Manila I had a few Filipino men stop me in malls and say "Hi, I'm a security guard at your hotel" and then tell me about how they need some money to buy a birthday present or some other excuse. I fell for it the first couple of times and gave them p100 or so because I don't pay particular attention to who the hotel staff is. After awhile I realized that my hotel can't have 30 fucking security guards. From then on I when one would stop me I would ask him which hotel he worked at. They knew I had them at that point and would just give a vague answer take a wild guess. It was easy at that point to just tell them "sorry but that's not where I am staying" and walk away. I have a few more stories but this is one of the more humorous ones so far.

Apart from the card game con, that must be the hoariest old scam in operation in The Philippines. I have lost count of the number of times it has been tried on me, usually in Robinson's Malate or environs. Your method of dealing with them is like mine. I always look confused, like I have late stage Alzeimers, and say 'Tell me what hotel I'm staying in, I've forgotten!'. The looks and replies they give you are priceless :D.

Bob Bowie
02-02-09, 18:43
Day One
I get setup I'm my room, put my valuables in the safe then head over to my single favorite place in Angeles, Shano's. Although the waitresses are on the menu, I do not partake of the staff here. This is my favorite place to relax when I am not mongering and I do not wish to sully the atmosphere there, too much drama. I prefer it when ALL the women flirt with you instead of just the one you barfined the other night.



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It looks like AC is must stop for me on the next trip. Interesting Shano's lets you bar fine the waitress. the concept that I can go to a normal bar/restaurant (I just checked out their website) order a diner and take the waitress home sounds great. It just not possible for me to grab the 20 year old Chilli's server to go.

Is this the norm in AC, that I can expect to take home the waitress? Is the bar fine more than the bar girls?

Hesekiels
02-02-09, 23:12
... After some fun and one pop, Dora starts to cry and says she wants to go for a drink. Ends up she makes a beeline for her home base at Foxy's and before bolting inside she starts making up a pile of shit-ass excuses as to why she was back so soon...


again the old, old story! The only way to avoid such an unpleasant situation is to have a crystal clear agreement with the cuty (eg. 'you stay at least until 8am') before one pays for the barfine. Sometimes I do even inform the mamasan about 'the deal' I have with the girl - just to avoid misunderstandings! It works perfectly! :)

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Sol111
02-03-09, 01:53
It looks like AC is must stop for me on the next trip. Interesting Shano's lets you bar fine the waitress. the concept that I can go to a normal bar/restaurant (I just checked out their website) order a diner and take the waitress home sounds great. It just not possible for me to grab the 20 year old Chilli's server to go.

Is this the norm in AC, that I can expect to take home the waitress? Is the bar fine more than the bar girls?

Bob, this is the norm in many bars. The waitresses (hostess?) are slightly older versions of the dancers. I barfined a waitress from Bodyshop 3 nights running, late 20's/early 30's. Looker. After the first night, we went to the mall for breakfast, and she stayed until 1pm. Over the next several days she stayed with me each day late in the afternoon until she had to run home/shower and get to work at 6pm. On the fourth night I was ready for a different dish, and told her I was not coming to the bar to fine her, that I was taking the night off. I really didn't find anything pleasing that night, and walked by the Bodyshop at 2am on my way to my hotel (swiss chalet). She was outside having a drink chatting, and we talked for a minute, I told her I was tired and on my way to bed. She said she got off in an hour, could she come by? Sure, sweetie. We nodded off together naked, woke in the morning to a wonderful session, and then out to breakfast again before I left on the bus. A freebie!!

You'll notice the waitresses have the same worker ID card on their uniform that the dancers do. Shanos pub is a restraunt though, not a regular girlie-dance bar.

Sol111
02-03-09, 02:21
After barfining a girl named Dora (real name is Jackyn) we go back to the hotel. After some fun and one pop, Dora starts to cry and says she wants to go for a drink. Ends up she makes a beeline for her home base at Foxy's and before bolting inside she starts making up a pile of shit-ass excuses as to why she was back so soon.

Guoren, I had two bad experiences with AC girls (on the same night). The previous gent is right, you need to hammer out what you expect with the girl BEFORE you agree to barfine her. This dickering is not for everyone. I normally tell the girl EXACTLY what I'm looking for, if she balks even a bit then I thank her for her time. My needs are unique. It does not matter whether I'm in Manila/Jakarta/AC/TJ, tell her what u expect. Doesn't hurt to mention it to the mamasan either (SHE SAID SHE'LL STAY TILL 11AM). Also, if you are a tipper, mention to mamasan that if the girl does good work, you'll come back and let the mamasan and girl split a tip the following evening (then do it).

Of the two girls I had bad experiences with. First was from Gecko's bar. Rosie. Young, shy. Bought her a drink, became infatuated with her looks. BF'd her and went to Crystal Palace for more drinks. I never mentioned my usual list of things, including time. Stupid me, I was also talking with mamasan before leaving Gecko's, and failed to mention it. Once in the room, the girl, very young, got nervous, and just couldn't perform. I was decent about it, we cuddled for a bit, she got nervous and couldn't calm down. She headed into the bathroom, then came out clothed and said she had to go. It had only been 30 minutes in the room, and it was 2am. I said OK, no sense trying to keep her there. She walked out and I assumed back to the bar, right around the corner. I dressed and was headed back to Gecko's to complain, and Rosie was standing in the street in front of the Swiss Chalet, just in front of the restraunt. She asked where I was going and I said to Gecko's to complain about her lack of service and leaving. She said no dont do that. I asked if she wanted to come with me, I was very calm and poised, trying not to threaten. She said no, and off I went to the bar, complained to mamasan. I didn't ask for my money, just kind of told mama what happened. Mama bought me a drink, and away I went to find another girl.

Stupid stupid me. Went to the Honey Pot and grabbed a girl named Ivy as it was 3am and closing time. Again didn't discuss specifics, BF'd her and was back in my room at 3:10. She too could not accomodate me, got huffy, and left. The bar was closed. Who to complain to when you are leaving at 10am? You just let it go, knowing you've learned the lesson of not being specific.

Nvslim
02-03-09, 09:32
The new issue is out at:

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What's new:

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X Man
02-03-09, 10:13
You didn't give specifics, so I have to assume you require something kinky, or maybe you have a hose the size of The Zohan's hose.

As for me, I rarely discuss anything -- including money. In AC maybe not necessary anyway. I like the GFE, and bartering kind of ruins that.

I don't require bj either (but never refuse) ...and according to the Ghucher I have an undersized tool. So I guess I'm an easy customer. Oh, and the GFE / BFE seems to work well if you want pictures.

I'm not disagreeing with your strategy. Lots of guys swear by it, but as you say in your post, "dickering" isn't for everyone. Was that pun intended?

Yes, I've had some disappointments. The dynamics of dealing with other people is complex but interesting, especially when you factor in that you are going from strangers, to friends, to sex, to sharing a bed/breakfast, to saying your final goodbyes -- all within ten hours or less.

THanks for the post Rugburn. Your handle reminded me of a girl that I fkd in an empty apartment at a time when I was still paying the rent for an empty apartment after seperating from my my (at the time) wife - future ex-wife. I wonder if she still has a scar from that rugburn...I hope so.



Guoren, I had two bad experiences with AC girls (on the same night). The previous gent is right, you need to hammer out what you expect with the girl BEFORE you agree to barfine her. This dickering is not for everyone. .

Ekspat
02-03-09, 11:08
Mates, of course AC is a shit-hole...
But thats why we all are addicted to it!

Had a cracker of a time again last week,
after my 2 weeks Christmas pilgrimage.
As I said 2 weeks is too much for me,
but 1 week is just perfectly fine.

I dont know much to report, business as usual,
if someone wants to know something particular,
just PM.

Almost every larger bar in Fields has now some event,
photo-shooting and shows here and there,
what was unthinkable of 5 years ago.

Sunshine bar is new, not bad, it's near Zapata.
You can combine with a dinner.
Walking distance from Lewis.

Hehe, there is one (smaller) bar nowadays,
I think I've had banged them all!
Except Mamasan and the (male) DJ. :D
And of course it's not Atlantis :(
Unfortunately, for that I don't have the time!

Met a great mongerer from Singapore, we had a great time
of barhopping together and good fun.

Even on the last evening I've found a gem in Santos Av,
I didn't expect this at all.

Next trip in March is finalized oredi,
will stay in Lewis Grand again,
anyone for a SMB, lets go for it!

The pic, I'm still looking for
a house maid, suggestions anyone??? :D

Cheers!

Travel Fox
02-05-09, 03:32
The thing about AC is...

With a pay before structure, what incentive does the girl have to perform?

When the bars do not even give your money back for lack of any performance then why should I go into a crapshoot with a girl when I am on a week or two vacation? FUCK THAT, that is some real bullshit. It frustrated me when I was there my one and only time. If there were a viable freelance option in AC then I would be more inclined to go there again. You don't want to have sex honey, well thats kool, I don't want to spend any money either, cool beans see you later...

Travelfox

AsianLover2
02-05-09, 03:36
We all have our own style with women but you need to remember you are paying a bargirl for her services. It is not a prom date. I recommend that you ask questions before you pay a barfine. Most girls have heard it all before so they will not be shocked with your questions.

I always ask:

0. Are you having menstration
1. Are you 18?(and check her id)
2. Are you a cherry girl(dont want any surprises)
3. Do you do blow job? Cum in mouth ok? (if that is your thing)
4. Will we boom boom more than 1 time?
5. Will you stay all night? Whay time do you have to leave?

These are the basics for me. After covering all the basics and any other concerns, both of us can then just enjoy the time together.


You didn't give specifics, so I have to assume you require something kinky, or maybe you have a hose the size of The Zohan's hose.

As for me, I rarely discuss anything -- including money. In AC maybe not necessary anyway. I like the GFE, and bartering kind of ruins that.

I don't require bj either (but never refuse) ...and according to the Ghucher I have an undersized tool. So I guess I'm an easy customer. Oh, and the GFE / BFE seems to work well if you want pictures.

I'm not disagreeing with your strategy. Lots of guys swear by it, but as you say in your post, "dickering" isn't for everyone. Was that pun intended?

Yes, I've had some disappointments. The dynamics of dealing with other people is complex but interesting, especially when you factor in that you are going from strangers, to friends, to sex, to sharing a bed/breakfast, to saying your final goodbyes -- all within ten hours or less.

THanks for the post Rugburn. Your handle reminded me of a girl that I fkd in an empty apartment at a time when I was still paying the rent for an empty apartment after seperating from my my (at the time) wife - future ex-wife. I wonder if she still has a scar from that rugburn...I hope so.

Victorian
02-05-09, 04:44
http://www.maplandia.com/philippines/region-3/pampanga/angeles/

It was interesting to zoom in and see Fields and scroll around to see the surrounding area, including Angeles City. Like most who go there, I tend just to go to the same small area.

I was particularly surprised to see all the green and how much empty countryside there is just past SM Mall.

By the way, I'll be in AC from 7 - 28 Feb if anyone else is around then. Anyone like tennis?

Anybody have any thoughts on how clean the water is at the local swimming pools, the ones used by the locals? With so many kids using those pools (doing the sort of thing kids do in pools!) and the obvious local hygiene practices, I'd be a bit doubtful about swimming in them.

I remember also meeting one guy at a nice hotel in AC who said he got a bad ear infection from the hotel pool. Pretty scary when u know u have to fly back home. I once flew on a plane with a very bad cold and my ears were really killing me and I couldn't hear for a couple of days after.

Enjoy

Eaglestar
02-05-09, 10:17
Wed Feb 4, 10:51 am ET

Black Eyed Peas Brother Murdered(E! Online)

Los Angeles (E! Online) – Apl's in mourning.

The brother of Black Eyes Peas mastermind apl.de.ap, otherwise known as Allan Pineda Lindo, was gunned down in the northern Philippine town of Porac, Pampanga.

Joven Pineda Deala was the youngest and purportedly favorite brother of apl, who was born in the Philippines and grew up in the barrio before he was adopted by an American and moved to the United States, where he eventually formed the Peas with will.i.am.

Per the Philippines Inquirer, Deala, 21, was sitting in his car outside his girlfriend's home at approximately 1 a.m. Tuesday when he was shot in the head by an unidentified gunman.

Police are still searching for a suspect and do not yet have a motive for the killing, though various media outlets have reported the murder may have been the result of a love triangle.

Apl, 34, is expected to fly to the Philippines to attend his sibling's wake and burial.

Member #3437
02-05-09, 15:06
The thing about AC is...

With a pay before structure, what incentive does the girl have to perform?

When the bars do not even give your money back for lack of any performance then why should I go into a crapshoot with a girl when I am on a week or two vacation? FUCK THAT, that is some real bullshit. It frustrated me when I was there my one and only time. If there were a viable freelance option in AC then I would be more inclined to go there again. You don't want to have sex honey, well thats kool, I don't want to spend any money either, cool beans see you later...

Travelfox

Funny that.

The girls understand a few things very well. First, they understand what you look like and how you carry yourself. They understand if they give you GFE they can get gifts, they can get large tips, etc. They understand whether they wan't to be with you or not.

Even a bad girl in AC is better than most other places good girls. And, at 31 bucks a pop, you can take two or three and kick out the bad ones, and still be money ahead.

I don't understand your gripe. I just got back and had a blast, had orgies, had GFEs, had short times and long times. I can't complain about one of them in any manner that wouldn't just sound like sour grapes.

I just went to Bangkok, Pattaya, Indonesia, and the Phillipines. AC has the best girls by a wide margin. This has always been so.

Maybe the problem isn't AC.

Rubberyman
02-06-09, 01:47
Funny that.

Even a bad girl in AC is better than most other places good girls. And, at 31 bucks a pop, you can take two or three and kick out the bad ones, and still be money ahead.

Maybe the problem isn't AC.

I think the thing to note is that AC (and the Phils generally) is not really the best place for 'point and fuck' type experiences. (It can be found obviously, but not really good imo).

If I want a GFE I go to PI. Whenever I want P&F though I agree with Travel Fox that AC is not the best place since you have to trawl through a lot of ladies who prefer to provide the GFE - since that is their fantasy too.

Ekspat
02-06-09, 02:02
And, at 31 bucks a pop,
It's 31 bucks a barfine.
Per pop it's even less.... :D


I just got back and had a blast, had orgies, had GFEs, had short times and long times.
Can confirm!!! Had same same, but different girls. :D :p

Cheers

McGillicutty
02-06-09, 09:38
It looks like AC is must stop for me on the next trip. Interesting Shano's lets you bar fine the waitress. the concept that I can go to a normal bar/restaurant (I just checked out their website) order a diner and take the waitress home sounds great. It just not possible for me to grab the 20 year old Chilli's server to go.

Is this the norm in AC, that I can expect to take home the waitress? Is the bar fine more than the bar girls?The bar fine is pretty much the standard rates for Fields Ave (1300-1500 peso). Most of the bartenders are off limits. You can take them but they are pretty much only available as tour guides or for bar hopping. That is not to say that if you are willing to lay a little game you cannot get one into the sack, but it is not your normal P4P. I am pretty sure all the door girls and waitresses are on the menu. Like most any bar the girl can say no, don't get pissed, just move on. I BF'd a door girl for three days straight last year and it was the best sex of my life. Just remember, as it has been said time and again in this forum, discuss what you want upfront. If you do not, you have no one to be mad at but yourself.

X Man
02-06-09, 11:54
Although I rarely discuss money or sex specifics, I have asked number 2 (in a joking way) and number 5.

As for the questions about age/cherry/mens, they would be more necessary with a freelancer than a gal in the bar, IMO.

I also bail out pretty quick if I pick up bad vibes. I don't think there is any fullproof method of avoiding problems, but usually I don't have any problems.

As someone else mentioned, if you act decent and treat the people around you decently, they'll warm up to you pretty quick.

I was in a Santos Ave bar one afternoon and a rather obnoxious lout was slapping the arse of every gal that got near him. I mean really giving them a wallop. He wasn't liked very well.

X


We all have our own style with women but you need to remember you are paying a bargirl for her services. It is not a prom date. I recommend that you ask questions before you pay a barfine. Most girls have heard it all before so they will not be shocked with your questions.

I always ask:

0. Are you having menstration
1. Are you 18?(and check her id)
2. Are you a cherry girl(dont want any surprises)
3. Do you do blow job? Cum in mouth ok? (if that is your thing)
4. Will we boom boom more than 1 time?
5. Will you stay all night? Whay time do you have to leave?

X Man
02-06-09, 12:03
I'm not sure if you noticed, but Jackson has created an AC accomodation / hotel thread.

It would have been nice if it was located right next to the AC thread, but it's not. You'll find it at the lower half of the PI list.

X

Travel Fox
02-06-09, 13:29
Thats fine if you want to ask 21 questions and that type of thing to find out if a hooker is going to fuck. Im sorry, in the countries I like to monger in, the hookers fuck by default. That cherry girl and mens shit if FOR THE BIRDS. The problem may be me, I am 6'3" and pretty good looking about 240 lbs in proportion (whatever). I had a decent time in AC but I had a much better time in Jakarta and Pattaya (and CEBU, love CEBU and Manila) with chicks who I could yes, point and click. If chemistry arose after the pointing and clicking then so be it. If I wanted to serenade hookers I'll stay in the US and date regular chicks thank you very much. Once again its funny how folks defend AC as if that is the only place on this earth that chicks give them time of day LOL. Its that wimp/pussy mentality of a lot of mongers over there that let girls get away with the bullshit they get away with in AC. I had willing participants when there but was treated much more the rock star in Pattaya and Jakarta, again in AC not so but to each his own.

I also pulled regular pussy right out of the mall and once on Fields ave. So maybe the problem is me West FLA but I still made due. Just telling the truth which the die hard AC monger ususally does not want to come to grips with.

West FLA maybe you like serenading hookers? (which is a shame IMO)

LOL

Travelfox

Member #3437
02-06-09, 16:04
Thats fine if you want to ask 21 questions and that type of thing to find out if a hooker is going to fuck. Im sorry, in the countries I like to monger in, the hookers fuck by default. That cherry girl and mens shit if FOR THE BIRDS. The problem may be me, I am 6'3" and pretty good looking about 240 lbs in proportion (whatever). I had a decent time in AC but I had a much better time in Jakarta and Pattaya (and CEBU, love CEBU and Manila) with chicks who I could yes, point and click. If chemistry arose after the pointing and clicking then so be it. If I wanted to serenade hookers I'll stay in the US and date regular chicks thank you very much. Once again its funny how folks defend AC as if that is the only place on this earth that chicks give them time of day LOL. Its that wimp/pussy mentality of a lot of mongers over there that let girls get away with the bullshit they get away with in AC. I had willing participants when there but was treated much more the rock star in Pattaya and Jakarta, again in AC not so but to each his own.

I also pulled regular pussy right out of the mall and once on Fields ave. So maybe the problem is me West FLA but I still made due. Just telling the truth which the die hard AC monger ususally does not want to come to grips with.

West FLA maybe you like serenading hookers? (which is a shame IMO)

LOL

Travelfox

No I don't serenade hookers. People here who know me may think that pretty funny. I will take the occasional girl for a few days if they are very very hot and do the things that please me, and do them well. I also like to have some notaputa action going on on the side. My travel style is seasoned and well suited to what I like as I have been doing this for a long, long time.

I think it may be cultural. That is what I was alluding to. AC girls want a guy who smiles and jokes around with them. IF you sit there stoically ordering them like you are ordering off of a menu, then they probably will be poor performers for you, if they go with you at all. They will make excuses to leave, etc. If you interact with them, joke and play, compliment them, etc...you will have to chase them away later. This isn't necessarily true in other areas, especially Pattaya and Jakarta, where you typically just order up the girl and she goes with you.

I wasn't saying anything about your looks. However, if you are 240 pounds you may be scary to some of the girls, as the average AC girl is around 85 to 100 pounds. You might have to be more selective in who you choose, which means a bit of work for you, and this may not be for you. Again, it isn't Angeles City's fault but you might just not dovetail with the style of the place properly. Nobody is at fault.

I also like the places you mentioned. I just got back from Indonesia and had a ball and got some really hot girls and I love the food. I like AC more, even tho it is a shithole and the food sucks. My MO is to bounce around different places and sample the experiences from different cultures and places,and the only places that piss me off are places that used to be good but now the girls are hard core (sosua DR comes to mind).

Finally, the only thing I can negatively comment about in AC is the influence over the last several years of the South Koreans. To me they are the Texans of Asia in both attitude and on how others perceive them,They are flashing money around in a way that may be the downfall of AC. I hope not.

Member #3437
02-06-09, 16:06
Can confirm!!! Had same same, but different girls. :D :p

Cheers

You sure about that?


:-)

Dollars
02-06-09, 17:10
What are the names of the best blow job spots on Santos Street/Ave?

Thanks

Rosco4444
02-06-09, 23:52
What are the names of the best blow job spots on Santos Street/Ave?

Thanks

Many are related with same owners and share staff. The one opposite the Orchid is my pick.

I can describe the worst blow job I have ever had there as "FANTASTIC"

Cheers

Rosco

Country Club
02-07-09, 02:16
Hey fellow Joes,

Well I'm always sporting a semi chubby every day because I finally booked my flight to Phils for March 4 so I'm excited as each day goes by. This will be my 3rd time. I've stayed at Orchid Inn, Swiss Chalet, and Pacific Breeze before. Recession is a beetch and it's hitting my pocket so I'm looking for some suggestions for hotels, and open to apartelles. I would do Pacific again but it would tie into my pussy fund and we all know thats a big no no. Also I would need wifi. Staff is also a good plus cause i've boned at least one girl from each of the hotels. Oh yeah also close to fields or even the perimeter bars for a change of scenery. If you suggest a hotel that meets all this and under 1500p I'll owe you a SML!

Buko Max
02-08-09, 00:56
If you suggest a hotel that meets all this and under 1500p I'll owe you a SML!
The Tiger Hotel should meet all your requirements! www.tigerhotel.co.nr
How do I collect my beer!? :D
Seriously, I tried to PM you but no can do!

DavidKagarwal
02-08-09, 19:19
I will be in AC starting Thursday, Feb. 12 until March 10. Is there anybody out there wanting to get a drink or go on a barhop together? Send me a message and we can exchange contact info. I read this forum all the time but have never taken the opportunity to actually meet any other members in person. I am from the USA and this will be my fourth time in AC.

Thanks!

Maxkwalat
02-08-09, 23:20
I am reading alot of reports on how many Filipinas desire to screw foreigners, and thus give better service (more GFE). I am assuming foreigners is directed to white males. I, on the other hand, am an Asian American, and was wondering if I will receive similar services. Any Asian Americans, Europeans, Australians in the Philippines care to share their experiences.

Darth Sushi
02-09-09, 15:05
I am reading alot of reports on how many Filipinas desire to screw foreigners, and thus give better service (more GFE). I am assuming foreigners is directed to white males. I, on the other hand, am an Asian American, and was wondering if I will receive similar services. Any Asian Americans, Europeans, Australians in the Philippines care to share their experiences.
Money is the race the girls want to service. Better service is more proportional to your interviewing skills and your ability to get the girl to relax and enjoy the deed. Some girls are nervous around Filipino mongers because they might be a cop, NBI, etc.

Punter 127
02-09-09, 15:22
I am reading alot of reports on how many Filipinas desire to screw foreigners, and thus give better service (more GFE). I am assuming foreigners is directed to white males. I, on the other hand, am an Asian American, and was wondering if I will receive similar services. Any Asian Americans, Europeans, Australians in the Philippines care to share their experiences.I have a Chinese American friend who accompanied me to Cebu; the girls in the bars loved him and gave him GFE type service. Most of the people we encountered in the Philippines thought he was Pilipino.

I don’t think you will have any trouble.

Parker88
02-09-09, 16:26
Where's a good place to chat online with girls in Angeles? My buddy told me about a site called shockrooms.com. Says there are girls on there that work in Angeles. He mentioned a girl who works in Lollipops named crazyfantasy. He says she's mixed black/filipino with long curly hair. Anyone know her?

Patterson
02-09-09, 16:59
Hi Guys

I have never been to AC but maybe going to try it out this summer, Travelled many times to Bkk Pattaya & Phuket any of you been to Thailand & AC and which do you prefer and why

Thanks

Sharka
02-10-09, 00:34
Hey Maxkwalat,

I have asian friends based in Singapore that goes to AC once in awhile and they said AC girls are OK in general. Their only complain is what others have already pointed out. During down time not hunting pussy, there is almost nothing to do.
Also, they fell for some of the scams mentioned here so again, the scams affect everyone regardless of skin color, race etc. and they also told me the scams can't really be avoided as they did "interview" them prior to barfine but they were just lied to and nothing promised were delivered. But this happens everywhere including pattaya where I mostly monger. Sometimes just hope for the best and then move on.

Shark

Sharka
02-10-09, 00:45
Looked at the website but didn't mention where this hotel was located. Any ideas if this is near Fields or way out in the boondocks?

Darth Sushi
02-10-09, 00:56
Looked at the website but didn't mention where this hotel was located. Any ideas if this is near Fields or way out in the boondocks?
About 50 yards from Fields Ave.

Lushington
02-10-09, 05:38
Looked at the website but didn't mention where this hotel was located. Any ideas if this is near Fields or way out in the boondocks?You'll find the information buried in the "CONTACTS" button(complete with a map!

Bob Down
02-10-09, 13:40
Hi Guys

I have never been to AC but maybe going to try it out this summer, Travelled many times to Bkk Pattaya & Phuket any of you been to Thailand & AC and which do you prefer and why

Thanks

If you spend some time reading both Thailand and Philippine forums you will find out which guys divide their time between the two countries.

If you like doing things outside of mongering then stick to Thailand, if mongering is all you want to do then by all means visit AC. Just don't compare Thailand to AC.

Primo Bolan
02-10-09, 14:27
If you spend some time reading both Thailand and Philippine forums you will find out which guys divide their time between the two countries.

If you like doing things outside of mongering then stick to Thailand, if mongering is all you want to do then by all means visit AC. Just don't compare Thailand to AC.
Compare AC with the rest of the Philippines? Dont think so.
By all means there are lot of things to see and do in the rest
of the country.

Bob Down
02-11-09, 10:03
Compare AC with the rest of the Philippines? Dont think so.
By all means there are lot of things to see and do in the rest
of the country.

Yes there are plenty of things to do in the rest of the country but the original poster wanted to compare AC to Thailand. Not Thailand to Philippines. I spend more time in Thailand than Philippines and when I am in Philippines it is normally only for a week in AC. Same again this year.

Khun Larry
02-11-09, 15:49
I will be in AC starting Thursday, Feb. 12 until March 10. Is there anybody out there wanting to get a drink or go on a barhop together? Send me a message and we can exchange contact info. I read this forum all the time but have never taken the opportunity to actually meet any other members in person. I am from the USA and this will be my fourth time in AC.

Thanks!

The system said you are unable to receive messages so I have noway to contact you.

I will arrive Angeles Feb 24. Will stay a few days then off to cebu and Dumaguete to track down a few online cuties.

Khun Larry
02-11-09, 15:54
Bangkok - Clark flight arrives about 8:30 pm

A friend took same flight and had trouble getting taxi.

Can someone advise best way and price from airport to a fields Ave hotel at this time

Primo Bolan
02-11-09, 16:57
Hi,

How about personal safety too?

I read somewhere that one can get attacked from behing in AC!

IN Thailand (Pattaya) too there are too much crimes against foreigners.

That means even if one tries to play it safe there is no guarantee.

Tell us if I am wrong!

Wizzy!
Never had any problems with such attacks on turists or heard about them.
I think its the scams and setups thats really are the problem here.
The "Hello my friend" thing thats makes people unsure on how to behave.
After some time of travelling I feel more secure in my self.
And when im in places like A, I turn on some kind of autopilot when I
walk the streets (dont waste my time to listen to anybody who I dont
want to talk to). Sounds strange doesn`t it?
goldchained filippino man:-Hello my friend!
me:-Bye,bye! or -Yeah! And just keep on walking.
Anyway I feel a little more secure in P than A, but only a little.

PB

Primo Bolan
02-11-09, 17:03
Yes there are plenty of things to do in the rest of the country but the original poster wanted to compare AC to Thailand. Not Thailand to Philippines. I spend more time in Thailand than Philippines and when I am in Philippines it is normally only for a week in AC. Same again this year.
Sorry Bob! I didn`t understand that.

PB

Darth Sushi
02-11-09, 18:43
Bangkok - Clark flight arrives about 8:30 pm

A friend took same flight and had trouble getting taxi.

Can someone advise best way and price from airport to a fields Ave hotel at this time
A taxi will charge you at least 300 pesos. A jeepney on a regular route is about 12.5 pesos but this only works if you don't have a lot of luggage. You can ask a jeepney for a "special" solo ride but don't pay more than 300. BTW, Some hotels have pickup service. Unfortunately, trikes are not allowed on Clark!

Poopbunny
02-11-09, 20:36
Bangkok - Clark flight arrives about 8:30 pm

A friend took same flight and had trouble getting taxi.

Can someone advise best way and price from airport to a fields Ave hotel at this time

Hmm, I took the same flight and there were taxi booths on the right (asking me if I wanted a taxi) as you exit customs, also there were plenty of other taxi touts when you exit.

Poopbunny
02-11-09, 20:38
Hi,

How about personal safety too?
I read somewhere that one can get attacked from behing in AC!

IN Thailand (Pattaya) too there are too much crimes against foreigners.
That means even if one tries to play it safe there is no guarantee.
Tell us if I am wrong!

Wizzy!

If you are a real wally you can get attacked from behind anywhere.

The only scam you are likely to encounter is you BF a girl for the whole night but she leaves early after 1 pop :)

Guy Wif Attitude
02-12-09, 01:40
Ac in my opinion is a great place to monger, and I follow a couple of rules:

In the bar. Always interview the girl thoroughly before barfine. Generally my approach is:

- I see a nice girl in the bar. First ask her if she barfines and whether on menstruation. If all is ok, then try to establish rapport and buy a LD if necessary. I see no reason to buy a LD if the girl is not available for boom boom, but that is my personal cheap charlie preference.

- Always check the bill every time you are served a drink (also some bars like blue nile have a dual price LD policy (girls will always order the 300 peso LD unless you intervene)

In the street.

- Do not talk to any Filipino men, period. Don't be rude, but say "sorry not interested" and move on.

- don't ever pick up a streetworker. Its just not worth the risk, Beware of the "can my friend come to your hotel" scam.

- Always keep one hand firmly on your wallet / mobile phone at all times (hands in pockets is my preferred mode of travel) including in trikes / jeepney, etc.

- Do not walk around the darker areas of AC alone at night. (This trip 2 bargirls told me they were robbed at knifepoint on perimeter road, another one said her farang neighbours apartment was robbed just off macarthur highway). Catch a trike, otherwise its just not worth the risk.

- Check your pockets before you re-enter your hotel. Scammers may plant drugs on you (a popular police set-up)

- Do not buy anything from the streets like cigarettes (could be scam where drugs are hidden in the packet. Police setup)

- Do not give money to anyone on the street (if this involves taking your wallet out in the open. Could be snatched from you anytime)

- Do not let any beggars / street kids hold your arm (there could be a filiipino with a camera taking a photo of you. Alleging child abuse. Police setup)

Above all, smile and have fun! The girls feed off your vibe and give better service when you are a happy punter.

This approach has served me well so far, anyone got any other tips for living the AC lifestyle?

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Key Master
02-12-09, 06:09
Bangkok - Clark flight arrives about 8:30 pm

A friend took same flight and had trouble getting taxi.

Can someone advise best way and price from airport to a fields Ave hotel at this time

As others have said, you should be able to get a taxi at the airport for around 300 pesos. If you already have a hotel booked, they probably have a pickup service from the airport for 300 pesos or so also and you can contact them to have someone pick you up. The 300 pesos is a ripoff, but that's AC transportation and you really aren't going to get a much better price on your own. The ride is only about 10 minutes or so.

Professional
02-12-09, 06:29
Yes there are plenty of things to do in the rest of the country but the original poster wanted to compare AC to Thailand. Not Thailand to Philippines. I spend more time in Thailand than Philippines and when I am in Philippines it is normally only for a week in AC. Same again this year.Maybe I am reading this wrong but imho you can not compare Thailand to AC that is like comparing Pattaya to PI. AC is small part of PI not fair to compare AC to Thailand. Maybe you can compare AC to Pattaya or maybe AC to BKK but not Thailand to AC.

Sorry if I am reading into this wrong.

Carmex
02-12-09, 06:43
I also don't think you can classify one city as this or that. I am not very expirenced, but have been to Manila, Angeles, Cebu, and Subic. Also, all over upper Luzon on a bike with a BG.

Had both good and bad in all of those places. Cebu had both the best and the worst in terms of expirences. Manila was good, but expensive and I don't get into girls tossing my salad like they owe me money.

Angeles? Ah what to say that hasn't already been said. Not much to do but eat, sleep, drink, and fuck. Is that so bad? I think you just have to determine what type of vacation you want.

Khun Larry
02-12-09, 07:41
Thanks all for the good info.

Darth Sushi - do Jepneys go to Clark on a regular run? 12.5 p beats 300

Cheesemark75
02-12-09, 07:46
I am reading alot of reports on how many Filipinas desire to screw foreigners, and thus give better service (more GFE).So long as you're not Filipino, they'd love to screw you. This is especially true if you're light skinned. You'd go a long way with good hygiene. And use some deodorant. Filipinos are anti-BO bigtime.

Darth Sushi
02-12-09, 07:53
Thanks all for the good info.

Darth Sushi - do Jepneys go to Clark on a regular run? 12.5 p beats 300
Yes, about 7 or 8 different routes going to different parts of Clark including the airport. Most originate at the main gate across the street from jollybee next to Fields ave. A few originates from Mabalacat. The price was 12.5 the last time I rode the jeeps but it could be more or less within a few pesos depending on the distance, gas price, and km rate the gov changes every few months.

Blink157
02-12-09, 09:06
Hi again,
ok fine. Angeles city might be a dump to some guys, or a shithole to others, fine with that, but lets assume I arrive from a 18 hours flight and looking for some fun. I wouldnt recomand anybody to spend his precious holiday time at a place like Makati. Remember, this thread is for info about Angeles city. Specially for newbies. Yes you can buy at 7/11 beer for 24 pesos and then , as you mentioned bring it to your hotel in Makati, City garden, right? Yeah, excellent idea. Last time I paid 3000p for a room, maybe more I dont remember. I guess it was more, like 4000p, because I actually wanted a room with a size that alows me not to jump right into my bed once I enter from the floor. I like rooms where Im able to walk around the bed if I like to sue the CR :D. I live here, 15 minutes from Makati and on the weekend I will certainly allways be out either going to AC or going to Subic. Why is that? because I certainly get more pops for my bucks, have more selection of girls, have much better value at hotels Im staying. Better pubs (shanos for example) and last not least BETTER AIR and less noise. You dont have that in Makati and you dont have it in Manila. Only place worth to go is Rogues in Makati and if you go there you will see why. Many guys go there, specially expats, good prices, pretty girls. I agree on that. However if you go to Angeles city your more in a holiday mood. YOu can walk around. you can f..ck around all day and all night. Surely you can get laid also in Makati, but for more BUCKS!!!
So, I dont know about you and Mo or Dave and its not my business either, cause I certainly dont go to Angeles city to date barowners LOL!!! I go there only because the fact that I get more pops for the bucks and its partytime over there.

You go to the bars in Makati. First they all small. Secound, look at the dancers. They just busy with themselves. They wont look at you. They look at each other and think how maganda they are. Ok, same you find with the suplada spotlightdancers in dollhouse or specially Atlantis. Fine, touche, no need to be there while you have 99 other bars loaded with girls waiting for you.

Wrong info, you can talk and talk and talk in here and you free to post anything you like, but its a fact, that places like Manila, Makati or Edsa cant beat Angeles city in terms of prices and more pops for your bucks.

I surely like to go there too, but not if Im on holiday and Im definetly on holiday on the weekend :)

I love Cebu, Dumagette, Bacolod, but you cant have evrything on one place and Angeles city is a place from where you start to explore other places in the Philippines. Most of the guys here like to have fun and Angeles city is a fun place to be. Thats for sure.

Blink

Cunning Stunt
02-12-09, 09:45
Ac in my opinion is a great place to monger, and I follow a couple of rules:...


Your excellent post is like a list of reasons why I tend to give AC a body swerve these days. I got fed up of dodging scam artists in the streets and weeding out cherry girls (always seems to be the ones I had my eye on) from girls on the rag (amazing how often they seem to start bleeding as soon as they hit your room), from potential runners, from nutters, from pissheads ..from..oh the list is endless. Some one ought to devise a printed tick-the-box yes/no checklist that could be handed out to any potential BF's. It would save a lot of hassle.

But saying that I have had some tremendous experiences in AC (but many more duffers I'm afraid) and can understand the appeal of the place, particularly to those who have a limited amount of time or a restricted budget. P4P and hotels etc can be appreciably more expensive in Manila, although, in general, the quality is much higher and the experience better.

X Man
02-12-09, 15:23
Cherry girl, yep, they tend to be the hottest not-yet-barfined gals. Another reason to start early?

Frustrating, yes, but they are nice on the eyes and I suppose those with time and patience can turn them. I'm still getting email from a former-cherry girl from EDSA. I didn't turn her, but someone did.

Blood? Don't be a wimp. I always bring a beach towel, and it has a backup purpose...and if it soaks thru to the sheets, soak in cold water as soon as possible. Also, leave a big tip for the maid.

What is a pisshead? Drunk? Please try to speak American English you bloody British wanker.

X

ps: for the same price, much easier to get a hotel with a pool in AC. Neither place has a beach unless you want to try your luck in Manila Bay. I've seen Thai swim in Pattaya Bay, I've seen Filipinos swim in Olongapo Shit River, but I've never seen a Filipino swim in Manila Bay.





Your excellent post is like a list of reasons why I tend to give AC a body swerve these days. I got fed up of dodging scam artists in the streets and weeding out cherry girls (always seems to be the ones I had my eye on) from girls on the rag (amazing how often they seem to start bleeding as soon as they hit your room), from potential runners, from nutters, from pissheads ..from..oh the list is endless. Some one ought to devise a printed tick-the-box yes/no checklist that could be handed out to any potential BF's. It would save a lot of hassle.

But saying that I have had some tremendous experiences in AC (but many more duffers I'm afraid) and can understand the appeal of the place, particularly to those who have a limited amount of time or a restricted budget. P4P and hotels etc can be appreciably more expensive in Manila, although, in general, the quality is much higher and the experience better.

Bob Down
02-13-09, 07:53
Hi Guys

I have never been to AC but maybe going to try it out this summer, Travelled many times to Bkk Pattaya & Phuket any of you been to Thailand & AC and which do you prefer and why

Thanks

Hi Professional,

This was the original post I replied to, yes you are right it is better to compare AC to Pattaya instead of AC to Thailand. But the poster did not ask that.

Bob Down
02-13-09, 08:00
So long as you're not Filipino, they'd love to screw you. This is especially true if you're light skinned. You'd go a long way with good hygiene. And use some deodorant. Filipinos are anti-BO bigtime.


LOL, a girl told me once they had a signal to let the other girls in the bar know if the guy that just walked in had BO.

Professional
02-13-09, 08:13
Hi Professional,

This was the original post I replied to, yes you are right it is better to compare AC to Pattaya instead of AC to Thailand. But the poster did not ask that.Sorry, my mistake.

Khun Larry
02-13-09, 09:21
Hi Guys

I have never been to AC but maybe going to try it out this summer, Travelled many times to Bkk Pattaya & Phuket any of you been to Thailand & AC and which do you prefer and why

Thanks

Been to AC 4 times, lived in BKK and Pattaya for a few years. AC is very small compared to Pattaya. It is more like a big Soi Cowboy with hotels. If you ever walk down SC during the day you will not be impressed. Such is Angeles. Not much to do other than monger so pick a quiet hotel with a nice pool.

regards

Carmex
02-13-09, 13:10
yea, might have been a little homophobia coming out on that one. Just have to figure out the polite way to say "fuck off, I like pussy".

Darth Sushi
02-13-09, 16:14
yea, might have been a little homophobia coming out on that one. Just have to figure out the polite way to say "fuck off, I like pussy".At least you can ID them from a distance here. What scares me are the ones you can't tell the difference due to surgery. I'm just glad surgeons here are not as good as in Thailand!

Mister Fusion
02-13-09, 17:46
Angeles, Pattaya, Manila, whatever. I like AC. Here's why.

I stayed at the Lewis Grand this time. Thanks for the tip, guys!

My first night back in AC, I started at Santos Street, ordered up four girls, and took ‘em all in the back room. Three of them were enthusiastic, but the youngest and prettiest one held back. I should have kicked her out of the room, but I didn’t want to pay her for being a *****. There is nothing in the world like having one woman suck your cock and another work your balls while you’ve got a mouthful of tit on one side and handful of somebody else’s tit on the other. Having said that, four is a bit much. I think three is a good max.

Later that night, I went clubbing. I spent some time in the Viper Room and hit it off with a girl with silver-edged front teeth whom the owner assured me was one of the best lays in the entire world. I noted that but, frankly, wasn’t in the market just yet. I wound up at Atlantis. The first waitress who sat next to me, Sandy, was shy at first, but I enjoyed talking with her. Eventually, Sandy's girlfriend Mary swung by. Mary was quiet, but beautiful. She had this way of widening her eyes and smiling a tight-lipped smile that worked on me. Sure, it was a gimmick. Sure, I was being played. I didn’t care. I don’t care now. I barfined both of 'them. Outside the club, they wanted to purchase bikinis for the hotel pool. When I told them that’d cut into their tip money, they begged off and we went to the hotel.

After a memorable time in the shower and on the bed, I was out. Mary woke me in the middle of the night, cuddling and kissing. We kissed forever, and let me tell you, she was a magnificent kisser. She kissed with passion and depth, and I lost myself within her. She took me in her mouth and brought me back to life: though still half asleep, she brought me off and I came on her pretty face. I went back to sleep a happy man, until she awakened me with more kisses. We were going at it when Sandy woke up and demanded a turn. I fucked Sandy as hard as I could, and Mary got jealous. She locked her eyes on mine and leaned over to kiss me as I drilled away. It was amazing. Finally, Sandy had enough and I finished in Mary. And that was that.

The next morning, I wandered into the Voodoo lounge. I only had about five hundred pesos left, but that was enough to deep kiss one girl, fondle another, and enjoy a pleasant, wakeup handjob from a third. A man could live in the Philippines.

That night, I returned to the Viper Room, where I barfined the silver-teethed girl. Silver Teeth was a true three-holer and, on the third pop of the night, she brought me back to life with a skill such as I’d never before experienced. Nevertheless, between bouts she had a bad habit of turning on the tv. That and the artificial feel of her breasts led me to ask her to leave well before sunrise. She was cheerful and happy to go; a true pro.

That morning, it was back to the Voodoo Lounge, where I was the only customer. What a surprise, after handjob girl brought me off, to open my eyes and see all the stage girls crowded around to see. I smiled and waved and didn’t know whether to feel embarrassed or awesome. I went with awesome.

After a day of walking around, I went back to Atlantis, where I barfined only Mary. She spent the night, and this time I kept her around for a long morning. It wasn’t just a GFE experience; it was a holy. Shit. I. Could. Fall. For. This. Girl experience. The sex was fine, as sex with an LBFM nearly always is. It was the kissing and the gaze that did it for me. This gal was something special.

The next night, back to Atlantis. Mary was off. I took Sandy home. The sex was fine, but the thing I remember the most is just sitting up with her and talking. Mary may be the kind of girl a man my age fantasizes about taking up with, but Sandy, who is in her mid-thirties, is the kind of woman a man my age actually could, once you get her talking.

While walking around the next day, I stopped in for a quick blowjob at the tiny shack across the street from the Swiss Chalet construction. The girl had wonderful tits, but I was running out of power after all this work. She was happy to talk things up, with a little, "I’m a ****, I’m a *****, I want your come in my mouth" to get me over the edge.

So the next night, there I was in Atlantis yet again. I was at my favorite seat, and Mary sat down next to me. She said, "I heard about you and Sandy. It’s ok. " And she gave me a great big kiss. Now, one side of my brain thought, "You’re goddam right it’s ok. Until you stop taking my money, you have no claim on me. " The other side, however, thought, "Aww, she feels possessive. How sweet. " Sandy came over and we were all friends. We had another great night at the bar. I spent just the right amount of money. Long story slightly less long: another great night.

The next day, I went back to the four-girl place and took two girls back – the one who gave the best head, and another girl. It was fun to come on both of their faces and tits, though I didn’t have much in the tank by this time.

Speaking of not having much in the tank, by the time I finished Mary the next night, I was dry coming. I didn’t know it was possible to run out of semen but, like I said, a man could live in the Philippines. It was great, but there were faint bloodstains on the sheets after our last bout. I thought I’d smelled a slight coppery smell, and that explained it.

The next night, back in Atlantis yet again (Hey, guys, I found a good thing and I ran with it! ). Maybe I’m a sucker, but I didn’t care that Mary was menstruating – did I mention what an incredibly great kisser she was? I took her back to the hotel and we spent yet another lovely evening wrapped in one another’s arms and legs, kissing and talking and living the fantasy. She showed me pictures of her little girl, and I told her about my life. I started thinking up ways I could relocate to the PI – yeah, it was that kind of night.

And then there was the very last night. Another Atlantis girl intercepted me at the door. This one was eighteen if she was day – she still had her orthodontia in – and she really didn’t do it for me. I admired her spunk and persistence, but let’s face it: by this point in the narrative, you know exactly why I was there. Mary's (sister? Cousin? Distant relative of some kind? ), who worked the door, showed up to interview me. We all got some drinks in us (I still can’t get over how unbelievably cheap the drinks are in AC – I bought drinks for four for less money than drinks for one in other parts of the world.), and before you know it, the cousin’s got her hand down my pants, Sandy’s got her mouth on my nipple, and Mary and I are tongue wrestling like a couple of high school kids. Eventually, though, everyone buggered off but Mary, who asked me if I’d ever been in love before. I told her the truth, and I enumerated all the reasons why it couldn’t actually work with us. She wept. It broke my heart, and I did my best to kiss her tears away. I decided to go home alone.

Before I went back to the Grand, though, I quick-fucked a hot little number from one of the blowjob bars to wash the taste out of my mouth. Oh, the tits on this girl. But it didn’t work. I still went to sleep thinking of Mary. I still go to sleep thinking of her.

So here’s the thing about Angeles City. In the real world, with normal women, Mary’s the kind of girl a man could make plans around. But I have absolutely no idea how much of her show of emotion was bolla. I have no way of knowing. Do I represent a possible regular remittance, a possible better life for her and her little girl, or an actual human being with whom she actually bonded? And here’s the thing about this whole deal. Sure, you can line ‘em up knock ‘em down and it’s all a party. But if you zero in on one, and one zeroes in on you, you don’t even know who’s bullshitting whom, or how much (Little narrative in the back of my mind: "Hey, look, honey! My green card came in! I want a divorce. ").

Sex for money doesn’t fuck a guy up, but love for money does. I can't wait to go back and get fucked up again.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Patterson
02-13-09, 18:43
Thanks very much for replies i have been reading the forums and have a far better idea now !!!

One last things is there outside bars with girls or just the gogo type

Again thanks

Elmerfud
02-13-09, 19:56
Angeles, Pattaya, Manila, whatever. I like AC. Here's why.

I stayed at the Lewis Grand this time. Thanks for the tip, guys!

My first night back in AC, I started at Santos Street, ordered up four girls, and took ‘em all in the back room. Three of them were enthusiastic,

Later that night, I went clubbing. It was amazing. Finally, Sandy had enough and I finished in Mary. And that was that.

The next morning, I wandered into the Voodoo lounge. I only had about five hundred pesos left, but that was enough to deep kiss one girl, fondle another, and enjoy a pleasant, wakeup handjob from a third. A man could live in the Philippines.

a true pro.
. The sex was fine, as sex with an LBFM nearly always is. It was the kissing and the gaze that did it for me. This gal was something special.

The next night, back to Atlantis. Mary was off. I took Sandy home. The sex was fine,
While walking around the next day, I stopped in for a quick blowjob at the tiny shack across the street from the Swiss Chalet construction.
come in my mouth" to get me over the edge.



The next day, I went back to the four-girl place and took two girls back – the one who gave the best head, and another girl. It was fun to come on both of their faces and tits, though I didn’t have much in the tank by this time.



thinking up ways I could relocate to the PI – yeah, it was that kind of night.


Before I went back to the Grand, though, I quick-fucked a hot little number from one of the blowjob bars to wash the taste out of my mouth. Oh, the tits on this girl. But it didn’t work. I still went to sleep thinking of Mary. I still go to sleep thinking of her.


"Hey, look, honey! My green card came in! I want a divorce. ").

Sex for money doesn’t fuck a guy up, but love for money does. I can't wait to go back and get fucked up again.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Nice reports of a great trip in AC I never been in AC but feel sorry that some guys like wronginfo and a few others are putting down AC because of bad experience, like I said never been to Ac but definitively on the list of my next mongering trip I do believe that people that had bad experience in AC are either unlucky and found themselve in the wrong place with the wrong people or simply these are having a behavior or personnality problem.

Phantomtiger2
02-14-09, 01:27
Darth Sushi;
So does one jeepney go all the way from Clark airport (I'm assuming you need to walk somewhat outside the airport and flag down the jeep) and travel all the way thru Fields - where all the hotels and bars are located? or does all this involve transferring from more than 1 jeep to get into middle of Fields?

Thanks

PT

Cbea20
02-14-09, 01:44
...In the real world, with normal women, Mary’s the kind of girl a man could make plans around. But I have absolutely no idea how much of her show of emotion was bolla. I have no way of knowing. Do I represent a possible regular remittance, a possible better life for her and her little girl, or an actual human being with whom she actually bonded?

Here's a quick and dirty answer to this important question. Yes she has bonded with you. That is a good way to phrase it, though she and her friends would say she is in love. She is likely to be sincere. Yes, you represent a better life. But last, she can switch her focus to someone else within the space of a heartbeat.

Blink157
02-14-09, 04:33
Fusion,
I guess you had a good time in AC. About your GFE, not sure about this, because I have this every weekend LOL. Seriously, I would just enjoy your time and take back those great memories you had with you back in your country. So, when you back in the real life, you have something to think about it and you have your sweet memories. Thats what Asia is all about. Taking home the sweet memories of "special encounters".

You can keep in touch with your honeyko if that is your thing, but be prepared for the money thing.
I also got a GF in ATlantis, so it could work out. Those girls are also women and seeking love and of course if they have a "big fish" like us, its normal to present them to their "friends".

However, dont be blind about their job. I am not. Leaves me only two choices. You get her out of the job and take care about her. Or you leave her where she is and either see her after or before work or just barfine her when you there.
There is no other choice...

k happy valentines to all

Blink out, time for me to get some food

Buko Max
02-14-09, 06:16
Darth Sushi;
So does one jeepney go all the way from Clark airport (I'm assuming you need to walk somewhat outside the airport and flag down the jeep) and travel all the way thru Fields - where all the hotels and bars are located? or does all this involve transferring from more than 1 jeep to get into middle of Fields?
Hi PT2,

Actually, you end up at the jeepney depot between SM and Fields. From there it is a short five minute walk to Fields.

Victorian
02-14-09, 06:47
First the bad. I flew in from Australia and the Margarita Station car was waiting for me as promised (nice car, good driver and Margarita Station is a very professional, well run organization).

I had booked Donald Paul Apartelle and had confirmed the booking several times (including the day before) with Steve Phillips from the hotel.

Imagine my surprise when I get to the hotel around 9pm (pretty tired from a long trip) and was told there was no booking and the hotel was full! After all my years of travelling, I had never encountered that before.

Luckily I still had the car and driver, so we spent the next half hour driving around other hotels – and being Saturday night they were all full. They said “sorry sir” but Steve Phillips has been busy and didn’t put the booking in. Great!

What also annoyed me was I left my Philippines cell number with the Donald Paul Apartelle and requested they give me a call the next day. Of course, no call. Also I emailed Steve Phillips again to ask him what happened. No response. Good service huh!!!

After a lot of driving around eventually found a new hotel (only five months old), the Savannah Resort Hotel, just a bit further down from Fields than Lewis and ABC. I’m very impressed with this hotel; a very modern and relatively luxurious room with a great “rain” shower, decent pool and very friendly staff. My room which faces the pool is very quiet and a reasonable price, 2500p with 7 days stay discount.

Now the good. There are a lot of really gorgeous girls walking around. It’s funny, but for some reason you often see the prettiest girls walking around the streets or on the arm of some Korean rather than actually in the bars!

I have been busy in the last week dating girls I met on the net before I came. Most have been great, with the only possible two exceptions firstly a very pretty girl who stayed overnight with me, but was horny during the act, but didn’t like kissing or cuddling. Said she lived by herself and wasn’t used to sleeping with someone. Oh well, can’t always have a good connection.

And the second one that didn’t work out so well was one of the best girls I’ve ever met here – incredible in every way. Except her phone doesn’t work anymore and I don’t have her email so I can’t contact her anymore. Very frustrating.

The others were all very GFE and a real pleasure to be with

Last night felt like a massage and saw this Roman Bath place in a dingy side street off McArthur Hwy, just one side street further down from Fields than Johnny’s supermarket. I chose the 860p option which was clearly explained to me by the manager and chamber maid was two hours with a 45 minute massage followed by the girl getting into the bath with me. The cheaper 750p option was just massage and the girl bathing you, but not getting into the bath with you.

It was hard to choose the girl looking through the window at the girls sitting around. There were around 14 girls to choose from. Most looked pretty bored sitting there, so I chose one that kept looking straight at me. Her number was 108, can’t remember her name. Everything started off pretty well with her looking good and giving a decent massage. Then she told me that ‘special services” were also available with “boom boom” for 3000p. She said she would do boom boom with me for that but she didn’t like boom boom much cos I was too big for her, but whether I wanted boom boom was up to me. I told her that was too expensive and I was happy just to have no special services, just the massage and bath with her and it would be nice to be in the bath with her.

She then got pretty frosty and told me she would not get into the bath with me, but would sit on the side of the bath fully dressed. I repeated what the manager and chamber maid had clearly told me that the more expensive 860p option included the girl getting in the bath with me, but she still refused.

For the first time in my life, I then told her I would like to change girls. She huffily agreed to that and then after a few minutes a very pretty tall girl called Ricel with a beautiful face and dark brown skin came in. That was a totally different experience. She was very sweet and affectionate with lots of cuddles and really nice to be with.

So a bad experience turned out very well. I would highly recommend Ricel, just stay away from number 108! I had a good talk to the manager after and she was very nice and said she would talk to number 108. The number 108 girl also lied to the manager telling the manager the reason I wanted to change was I wanted sex with her, but she didn’t want cos I was too big. So much bola bola huh.

By the way, the weather is great, not so many tourists around, had some nice meals (e.g. salmon at the Royal Amsterdam Hotel where they have cheap breakfast buffets on the weekend and dinner buffets every night) and it’s a great place to relax.

One nice thing last night was walking back along McArthur Hwy there were about half a dozen little street kids. Rather than giving them cash, I bought a very delicious looking roast chicken from a street vendor for 140p and gave them that (the vendor cut it up into small pieces and put the pieces into a couple of small bags). Good to give the kids food rather than cash.

For me, there is a lot to do in Angeles. I like SM and the cinema there is great value. I play tennis every day and the tennis coaches there are great (300p for one hour, including ball boy) and it’s nice to just take it easy during the daytime eating and relaxing.

And I agree with some of the others. This is a fantasy land where a middle aged guy can feel 20 again and can live the nice dream that a beautiful 20 year old really likes you cos you’re so handsome! 

Blink157
02-14-09, 15:07
hi,
just read your report.
I guess when Im back I have a talk to Steve and lets see what he will tell me bout this. He has just replaced the receptionsit staff lately, obviously the new staff have no clue at all. I work with pinoys and frm my experience if you dont control them they do what they like to do. So Im not sure bout this, but next week I will.

Roman massage. 108. a bit bigger tits?baby face? Sound familar the 3000 p question, guess I had her also before. I swapped her right away when she was asking 3k and get one who fucked the brain out of me for half the price which is ok. 1000 to 1500 pay no more.108 is one crazy kampangan b--tch. stay away from kampangans when your in AC, unless you know how to deal with that :D
There is another one near the Western union at mc arthur highway. Bum2 is about 1200p. Service is so so. They have open cubicals but you can screw them right there. SOmetimes they have some pretty women, sometimes not.

Better service and more privacy at roman.

Happy Valentines Im back to AC next weekend. This week Im busy in Manila :D

Blink

Kycuriosity
02-14-09, 15:52
I am flying out of the USA tomorrow.

After a short stay in Manila I will be in Angeles City in about one week!

Darth Sushi
02-14-09, 17:12
...108 is one crazy kampangan b--tch. stay away from kampangans when your in AC, unless you know how to deal with that :D Unfortunately, AC is 90% Kapampangan but many of the working girls are from Samar and Leyte.

MisterMax808
02-15-09, 09:26
Victorian,

Can I ask where a person can play tennis near Field's Avenue? How do I get there? Who do I ask for? Do they provide tennis rackets & tennis balls?

Salamat,

Max

Blink157
02-15-09, 12:48
Hi,
I was talking from the P4P scene in AC. Of course 90% of the populations in Angeles city are kampangan people LOL....

If you talk to a bargirl in AC and she is either from Manila OR from Angeles city OR Pampangan...be on alert.

Usually those girls are crazy..trust me!! So be prepared for some extra BS and if you smell something, something like burning your money for nothing, then move to the next girl.
I did the same last night. Talked to a girl, she was from Manila. bought her a drink and ask her what she is doing before or after work. Told me she sleeps and work and sleeps and have no time to meet in between.

I went up and moved to another table. Useless to spend more timw with her. Of course I frenchkissed her before (hunsome guy like me LOL) and played a bit with her tits. When I paid my bill , I relaized something was wrong, but as a cheap charlie I didnt told anybody. I spend allready many pesos over there. If they cant do the maths then I cant help. Im not on a missionary mission, only in my hotel room :))

Blink

Mister Fusion
02-15-09, 14:09
My honeyko e-mailed a set of charming photos to remember her by. Being a simple girl, she didn't think to bcc the rest of her client list or send the photos individually to each big fish. I used this as an opportunity to provide some helpful business advice: when dealing with a valued, potentially long-term client, it's important to provide the illusion of exclusivity.

:-)

Guys, thanks for your positive responses.

Info, thanks for you backhanded compliment. I guess that otherwise worthless comparative literature degree at least gave me the ability to write quasi pornographic memoirs about my occasional sex addiction benders. Regarding drink prices, I think you're using the wrong basis for comparison. Sure, the drinks at casinos are practically free (if you don't count the money you lose at the tables), but a better comparison is the drinks at the show bars. The last time I was in Spearmint Rhino, a lousy 3-song VIP dance was $100, and that's not even counting the lady drink. For a hundred dollars in AC, you're swamped with beautiful women until well past sunrise. Regarding Silver Teeth's fake boobs, look her up next time in AC and let me know how real they seem to you (You'll be glad you did, by the way.). Regarding the bars I liked, they may have bad reputations to others, but they're aces by me: I thought the people there were great.

Yeah, and I wouldn't copulate with a girl on her period, either. It just doesn't feel as smooth. If it's the right girl, however, I'd still bring her back to the hotel. Women come equipped with three.count 'them, three!. Holes, you know.

Anyway, thanks again for the great feedback, guys. See you around the strip.

Hesekiels
02-15-09, 15:53
... When I paid my bill , I relaized something was wrong, but as a cheap charlie I didnt told anybody. I spend allready many pesos over there. If they cant do the maths then I cant help. Im not on a missionary mission, only in my hotel room :))




actually that's news to me! I never had any problems with my bill in a bar. Is there anybody else here who had such difficulties?

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Sammon
02-15-09, 17:28
Me too never had a problem with bar bill in AC. This includes the change they bring back. Only thing is sometimes the waitress will try to get a bigger tip.
And if you spend a long time there they think you owe them a bigger tip because she pointed out a better girl for you and took care of you etc.
It is possible that sometimes we forget how many Girl drinks we ordered. In many bars now there are two types of girl drinks. One which cost 150 pesos and the other 300 pesos. So when you order the drink tell the waitress you want to buy only 150 pesos drink unless you want the girl get drunk.
Even then take the girl out to other bars to get her drunk and the cost will be less. Or stock up the room with drinks purchased in supermarket.
Beware most of these girls do not have the stomach for too much alcohol
and they will be sleeping it off. In my experience only very few girls can tolerate more than couple of real drinks.
Always remember it is the duty of the waitress to make sure your bar bill is high but not by doing the wrong math. The bill is right in front of you and you can keep checking it. If you are on a budget I suggest strongly that you do.
As we all know the whole atmosphere makes us spend more than we bargained for one way or another.

Patterson
02-15-09, 17:36
Sorry to ask again but 2 of the guys in our group prefer the outside type bars and not the gogos as anybody been to there perimeter bars which are the best if any and how far away from the main strip

Many thanks

HenryV
02-16-09, 01:34
Last year I did my own survey. I was in a/c six days and, since I love to barhop, I must have been in just about every bar I could find (twice). I made it a habit of asking every girl I talked: "what province are you from" - 90% answered Samar.


Unfortunately, AC is 90% Kapampangan but many of the working girls are from Samar and Leyte.

Victorian
02-16-09, 05:21
(i) El Rancho Tennis Court
Gate 2, Carmenville. Near Malabanias Bridge
These are good quality, well maintained courts (from memory three courts) in a nice quiet area surrounded by trees - a healthy place to play.
The hassle is that it's located in a private subdivision (with a security guard etc) so unless you have your own transport or can work out how to catch a jeepney there, it's not easy to go there. In the past I negotiated a trike driver I knew to take me there and wait for me. He was pretty happy to sit around having a drink in such a nice location.
The resident pro is called Poker. He's probably the best tennis player and coach I've met in Angeles.

(ii) Clarke, near Holiday Inn
I haven't been there, but there are courts a short walk from Holiday Inn. I can imagine they are pretty good courts, but probably more expensive too.

(iii) Del Rosario
This is where I go cos it's the easiest to get to. Just catch a jeepney along McArthur Hwy, get off at Robinsons Dept store (just before the bridge to Angeles City). Walk parallel to McArthur Hwy past Robinsons, cross the small side street and walk down to the right of the bridge. The tennis courts are down there, near the Robinsons public swimming pool.

The courts are two worn down clay courts, not particularly well maintained - rarely bagged or watered. And you're playing very close to the noise and pollution of the hwy and there's a continuous procession of people walking by the courts and often watching - very distracting.

It's also a bit of a pain sometimes to get a court. There are no bookings, just first come first served. You play for one hour for 300 pesos including ballboy, court and playing partner.

The people there are very friendly and some of the coaches are pretty good. The ones I normally play with are Jun, Robert and Billy. Just say Mike recommended them.

One fun thing when i was last there in June was there was a heap of street kids living under the bridge there. They were actually pretty friendly and looked like decent kids. If you wiped away their layers of dirt and grime and cleaned them up they would look like normal kids.

I gave the ballboy some cash and got him to go to Robinsons and buy icecream for all the kids (maybe 20 kids). He bought a heap of icecream for the kids and you should have seen their expressions when he brought all the icecream. The tennis coach I was playing with told me that for some of them, that was the first time they had ever tasted icecream. Nice memory.

(iv) Racquet and balls
People normally BYO, but I guess you could hire some balls and racquet there. There was a sports shop in Robinsons, but it's now closed. There are a couple of sports shops in SM now with a decent range of racquets and balls. I just bought two cans of Penn balls at a good promotion price of 295p for two cans.

If you would like more info or maybe even a hit, you can PM me.


Victorian,

Can I ask where a person can play tennis near Field's Avenue? How do I get there? Who do I ask for? Do they provide tennis rackets & tennis balls?

Salamat,

Max

Victorian
02-16-09, 05:23
Quite a few mosquitos around. Was having dinner with a lovely lass sitting around the pool the other night.

I should have been gazing into her big brown eyes, but instead was mesmerised by the four mossies dancing around her head.

So far I've failed to find any Off Spray (only lotions or out of stock) - should have brought the trusty old aeroguard and "avagoodweekend" :)

X Man
02-16-09, 12:19
I would have thought 40 percent, but it was your survey. Did you keep records, or are these hangover statistics?

Back in a 2008 visit to AC, my best sexer was from Manila (said she worked in a Makati restaurant....yea right), and the most adorable thing I had was a lady who had family in AC. She was tiny and sexy and stayed all night -- despite my obvious concerns.

And should we go to Samar, or have all the cute gals left?

X -- got as far as Tacloban



Last year I did my own survey. I was in a/c six days and, since I love to barhop, I must have been in just about every bar I could find (twice). I made it a habit of asking every girl I talked: "what province are you from" - 90% answered Samar.

Big Johnson2
02-16-09, 18:12
I went to Samar with my girl friend for the first time. It was a big eye opener how poor these girls really are. If they live in villiages, think National Geograhic... no running water. If they live in a city, the area their house is in may smell like a sewer. These girls are not in AC for a wild party. Most have a child or two to support and may be the big bread winner for their family of baby, mother, father, and brothers. The father are usually poor farmers or fishermen. Many eat only rice and if lucky a little piece of fish once a day.

That sexy outfit they wear when you Bar Fine them is probably their only nice outfit. They are sending their money home to take care of their baby and family. My GF tells me 90% of the girls are single moms. They receive no money in "child support"......what is that?

Until I saw how poor they really are, I used to be a cheap with them and get the best deals possible. Like if one saw me outside of work I'd give her a small tip.

First treat them nice and with respect. They are just trying to make money for their family. In the future I plan to give any girl that gives great service a good tip. They deserve it. While they are taking care of you and making you feel you have no problems, I can bet they still worry about having enought money for their child or family.

Just be extra nice and generous to them if they are nice to you! I'm not saying give them so much money that it spoils it for everyone else and ruins AC. Just treat them nice, and give them a decent tip.

I'm talking about these nice niave "new" girls. I am not talking about the hard core scammers, who have multiple boyfriends. They will probably insult you if you don't give them a good tip anyway. I think you can tell the difference. Watch out for these.

Hesekiels
02-16-09, 19:00
... give them a decent tip ...




Big Johnson2:

and the amount you have in mind should be???

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Frank4220
02-16-09, 20:10
I was in Angeles Monday and took a look in Geckos. Liked the place and saw some really cute girls.

Had some drinks with 4 girls 20-22 all spotting the "V"on their ID cards. They all tell me their virgins?

Now I just dont recall seeing this in past visits or I as not paying attention.

Seems like alot of cherry girls for one small bar..any comments?

Eric Emp
02-17-09, 08:52
Angeles:

When Arrive manila took a cab and asked him to take me to Swagman ( Was planning to Fly Bus) He knew it and offed me to take to Angeles Directly We agreed for (P2000)

It took around 1 Hour to go through the Manila Traffic, Once on Highway It was only an other One Hour to reach AC.

Arrived There around 8:30 PM. I was Booked in Latino-Inn. Once there I came to know that they don't have the room any more good for me as it was not a great place to stay, The cab driver took me to America Hotel. They offered a room for P1200 I took it. (Mostly there was no problem with the Hotel But some of the girls (Including the One from Nasty Duck - She was really cute her Pictures are in the Photo section) were not willing to go the America Hotel as there is a rumor that there is a Ghost in that hotel.

AC Day 1

Did a little bar hopping as was tired from the flight and cab ride. Went to Insominia Club and look for the girl of the Month Oct as I saw her pictures on the web site and was interested. She was different than her pictures on the web, I was expecting bigger boobs :)

Went to BrasNob chatted with Mama she was nice asked her for recommendation I was open to her and told her what I am looking for the BF was P1000/- (Not Bad) This was the lowest BF I have noticed in AC. She recommended Julie.

She was OK but was complaining a lot about the size of Jonson :) (Photo in Photo Section) She Stayed till 10 am. Gave her P150 tip

AC Day 2:

After Some Bar hopping Went to Bras Nob and again bar fined as per recommendation of Mama ( She was one of the Best Girls from My Stay in AC)
Her Pictures are in in photo Section BrasNobe2 & Brasnobe2-1

AC Day 3:

Searched for other activities, Went to the Flight School where they had flight trip to some mountain for $100. Went in search of Go-Cart track Nothing going on owner recommended to come around 5/6 PM on Friday.

Today it was Body Paint show at Atlantis So decided to go there, After some bar hopping went to Atlantis. It was a nice to see the Body Paint Show Some pictures are in the Photo Section

Picked on Girl BF was P 1350/- took her back to hotel, She was also complaining about the size, I offered her 2 option , 1- Boom boom twice or option #2 Greek :)
And convinced her for Greek, It was a new experience for me :)

Again Photos are in Photo Section.

AC Day 4:

Went to Mall during day and than for Perimeter Bars Found the nice Girl at Nasty Duck. She was beautiful. BF was P1200. She was scared of America Hotel, But the Mama Convinced her to go with me. Back in the hotel and she still looked scared, after and hour she asked me to take her back. So took her Back to the Bar and Mama Gave me my Money Back.

After That went to Bar hopping and end up bar finning from Honey Pot. She was an other Nice Girls and best service Mary Jane.


AC Day 5 :

Day 5 was Saturday I had originally Planned to go back to Manila by Bus as My Flight was on Sunday around noon time. But decided to stay in AC and take taxi to airport from AC.
Went for Go-Cart it was nice Fun, I don't remember how much was it but it was much cheaper than USA.

At night after Bar hopping went to Brassnob again as asked Mama for recommendation, took her recommendation, Once at hotel done the dead once after that she wanted to go back, this I had already cleared to Mama that I want LT. So I was upset and took her back and complained to Mama she was also angry with her and asked her to go back. But at that time I declined to take her as I was tired and wanted to take rest.

Next day asked the hotel to get me the taxi (P2500) for the Air port. On the way my observation was that if you contact driver directly it is much cheaper. I have the # of Driver I think he will be ok for P2000. His # is JUN PINEDA 0905-4180813 / 0919-7284704

Summary:

Girls : No need to worry they are plenty in malls or other places just smile talk to them and be nice, and when in AC stick to BARS no girl from Mall or street not worth the risk.
When bar finning a Girl I prefer to involve Mama as that she know what is going on and you can get your money back.

Hotel: Book a proper hotel in AC as they check and keep the ID of Girl.

Money: Take $100 Note you get best exchange rate. ATM are also plenty no problem using them

Ezinho
02-17-09, 15:56
Went to Insominia Club and look for the girl of the Month Oct as I saw her pictures on the web site and was interested. She was different than her pictures on the web, I was expecting bigger boobs :)


Avoid this girl if you can. I BFed her in December and she wanted to leave after one pop, barely one hour! Then she cried on my bed afterwards. I got half my BF back but still not really worth it. Her attitude was bad as well; although you can tell by looking at her photos that she's pissed off at something!

I didn't even know Insomnia Bar had a web site so I got a shit-eating grin on my face when I saw her pics. Now I have a great way to warn people of her.

Thanks for the great update and photos as well.

HornyGeorge
02-18-09, 02:44
I rarely post anymore on this board, but was reviewing this folder for first time in awhile (in AC now) and must add my voice to the other PI Experts calling his motive (and accuracy) into question. While some of the criticisms he posts have an element of truth to them, he is VERY prone to exaggeration and half truth. Yes there are cherry girls, but read their ID before buying the drink (hey have a Pink V). Do bills get padded? Sometimes, but not often unless you are drunk and act like you won't notice.

I won't waste the time refuting each of WI's shots at AC but suggest that newbies read reports by VARIOUS posters rather than accepting one guy's gripes as the gospel truth.

The most laughable comment was about beers in Las Vegas casinos being a nickel cheaper ($1 versus 55 pisos). Of course casinos also offer cheaper food because gambling revenue subsidizes food and drink. In fact, you get unlimited free drinks in most casinos as long as you keep playing (as the House's inherent advantage will offset the food and beverages and other comps given to frequent gamblers).

But how much is sex in vegas? If you drive an hour to Pahrump (where the legal brothels are located as Clark County bans prostitution), you might get a covered BJ for $200 (and all services are covered). Escorts in Vegas itself? More like $300. Ditto the freelancers at Ra, Rumjungle etc. I have not been to Vegas in 10 years, but I come back to Angeles ever few months.

Fast Eddie 48
02-18-09, 08:08
I was in AC for 3 days few week ago visit my favorite bar Camelot and blue nile, I talk to a few mommie and girl bar fine is 1200.1300 peso and most girl will only stay a few hr and only one shots not all night and multi shot like 1 yr ago on my last visit. Even the mommie told me is up to girl now not sure if other ISG member are also finding this to be true.

Fast Eddie 48

HornyGeorge
02-19-09, 05:19
Elimination of the so called tourist police was a GOOD THING. What they REALLY were doing was spying. They were hired by the bars to report dancers evading barfines and going to hotels on a freelance basis.

Police scams are way DOWN as the NBI has reassigned the most corrupt commanders away from Balibago. You should ask some locals who live here before making blanket statements based on personal anecdotes.

As for cherry girls dancers who make a living just selling drinks so what? Just don't buy them drinks rather than cry about it. Would you ban waitresses too if they cannot be barfined? There are so many here eager to go with most any guy with pisos in his pocket so if you get rejected just move on to another bar or girl.

Funny how you single out Gecko's which is one of the funnest bars on Fields IMHO and has some of the most wild 3 holers you could ever ask for in addition to the cherry girls. And some of these older girls enjoy doing threesomes with cherry girls that can be quite enjoyable (including some cherries who will give it up because they are curious rather than waiting for clowns willing to pay huge premiums to pop a cherry.)

Sounds like you are bitter because you think you have the RIGHT to screw any girl in any bar, and are frustrated that is not the case. If you get rejected here so often one can bet how well you do in Pattaya (or Vegas LOL).

Your opinion that AC is the worst place for mongering in SE Asia has been stated repeatedly here, and of courses experiences here run the gamut from great to terrible. But on balance, I think WAY more guys view it as among the best places for mongering in the World than those who share your negative view that is is the worst.

Perhaps you should post about the places you think are so much better and explain why you feel that way. THAT would be a more valuable contribution to the board than merely repeating your same complaints over and over. Your contributions do add to the database and the more different opinions which prospective visitors have to chose from the better. And as you noted for every guy like you who takes the time to contribute there are hundreds of lurkers who never post anything and for that I compliment you.

Stroker Ace88
02-19-09, 07:15
The sleek silver camery maneuvered effortlessly through the lonely streets of Manila with the engine dispensing a growling sound best described as music to my ears as the driver shifted into top gear. I needed to feel the wind on my face and as the window slowly descended the smell of fresh cut grass swirled into my nose and the wind against my cheeks made me feel alive, truly alive and happy.

"Sir. You Like" said my driver with a wry smile. I looked over at the driver with sleep deprived eyes and a look that best could be described as a two day hangover. I had been staring at three nursing students that had been walking past the car, and realized I must of been drooling. I just gave him a shrug that confirmed his suspicions.

The car was not in fact hurtling down some deserted street but stuck in Manila traffic and we had only moved twenty feet in the last five minutes. Ahhh Manila. I was glad to get Manila behind me and move on to the bargirl center of the Universe. Ok, center of my Universe atleast for the next three days.

I resided at the Hyatt the previous few days in a room that could be best described as a basketball court with a swivelling plasma TV smack right in the center of it. Marble bath, seperate dining room, sitting area, the works. Over indulgence at it's absolute worst and I think I made myself sick with elegance. The room was 40ft wide with a full floor to ceiling set of windows that provided amazing views out onto the water where I would watch one glorious sunset after another as my "au courant" FH freebie GF of the day sank to her knees and gave me head. I would stand stark naked and guzzle a Heinekin as I swore to myself that I would never ever ever return, but as long as she kept on bobbling her head I could over look the decadence and gaze with alcohol filled eyes as the days last rays danced on the water. With open curtains I cared not who saw my white untanned body, or the actions of my young femme.

One street gave way to the next and the next and soon the driver and I were on the smooth tarmac of the open highway on our way to Angeles. He being one of the drivers for the Pacific Breeze Hotel and to be honest I forgot his name almost the moment he told me but that was the hangover's fault. I always say alcohol speaks volumes but the hangover mutes everything, and on this day I felt as though someone broke my mute button.

The camery flew effortlessy down the highway past rice paddies and fields of sugarcane, some of which the farmers were burning prior to harvest and this created moving smoke screens at various points on our journey. I imagined all sorts of things to be positioned on the other side of the smoke, but alas only a broken-down swagman bus was to be the single noteworthy event.

The driver arrived at the front of the Pacific Breeze and as I pulled myself from the air conditioned comfort and into the toaster of an afternoon I can recall thinking to myself how uninspiring the place looked.

I was ushered in and the girls at the front desk, all giggling and smiles said Hello, and I check in. I had only booked the night before and I really did not care what room I was given so long as I had a room. They gave me I think 205? 212? This room was located right down the hall from the front desk and at the end of the hall closest to the pool. I went in and I looked around. It seemed ok but I wondered where the jacuzzi was. I looked in the bathroom, nope no tub. I looked in the closet, nope no tub. I looked out the window and you guesed it, no tub. Just as I was about to unpack the phone rang and I answered the phone. "Dr. Bordens Mortuary and Nail Salon", and there was a long pause and then the front desk girl bursts out lauging. She explained to me that she had given me the wrong room and she was sending someone to retreive my bags and show me to my new room. Fine I told her, but who is going to clean up this mess I made on the rug? Another long pause, and then I burst out laughing. Instantly she knew I was trouble with a capital "T".

My new room was in the other building on the third floor, room 812 I think. I knew I made a fatal mistake when I realized the lack of any sunshine. And just like that my carefully imagined plans of getting a world-class blowjob standing by the window drinking a Heinekin with my white farmer tan exposed for all of AC to see quickly evaporated. *Sigh*

To be continued.

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Eternal Rampage
02-19-09, 15:00
Since there seems to be some sort of war of words going on concerning AC, I figured it was only right that I post my trip report. I unfortunately didn't have a camera to take pictures. Nevertheless here goes:

Thursday Night 12/12/09

I arrived into NAIA late at night and had a car from my hotel (pacific breeze) pick me up. The trip took right around two hours, only because of that damn Manila traffic even at 11pm at night. Nevertheless the trip was fairly pleasant, nice car with good AC. Arrived into AC and was greeted eagerly by the front desk staff at the Pacific Breeze all calling me "hip-hop" even though I had slacks and a dress shirt on, and I just knew that it was going to be a good trip. I got some weird burst of energy that only a hunter gets when he senses his prey nearby. I quickly changed and headed into the AC night for the first time. I wasnt quite sure what to expect, but whatever I was expecting was blown out of the water by the time I headed around the corner and caught a glimpse of fields ave for the first time. So to not be spotted as a "deer caught in the headlights" I made my way to dollhouse, figure it was a good place to start. As soon as I walk into the bar two girls are sitting by themselves and offer me to join them. Being the gentlemen that I am I join them and quickly order a drink for myself and start talking to both of them. Being one of the only "brothas" in the bar, with the other being with his girl, a half black/half filipina quickly makes her way over to my table and latches onto me. I buy a round of drinks for her and the other two girls, but the black/filipina is clearly the one that wants to go with me, either out of need for a ewr or maybe just maybe she just likes me. Either way I tell them that I just arrived and before I can ewr anyone I need to look around. The black/filipina makes me promise to come back, so I promise (MISTAKE). Anyway out the door I then make my way to Geckos, because I'll be damn if I come all this way and don't meet the beauties from their website. I'm quickly struck by how small the bar is, but the waitress, MaryAnn I think her name is quickly attaches to me. She is groping me and telling me that she wants to come back to the hotel with me, after of course they ask the standard AC bar girl question: "What hotel you staying at? " Anyway MaryAnn is cute I enjoy talking to her, but none of the Gecko girls of the month are anywhere to be seen, nevertheless there is a cute girl on stage that I point out to MaryAnn, who she quickly motions to come off stage and sit with me. I can see the hesitation in the girls demeanor, so I buy her a drink and make small talk and wouldn't you know it she is black/filipina, but a cherry girl. Well I make small talk with MaryAnn and this cherry girl for a while and then tell them that I need to keep looking since I just arrived. So I make my way to Rhapsody, once I walk in the door a dancer spots me and is pulling at my shirt and pushing other dancers towards me in a joking fashion. I sit down for a beer and end up talking to a cute girl, tall nice butt, but wouldn't you know it she is a cherry girl. So I'm thinking time to move on when this girl shows up from upstairs or wherever there changing room is, she has this long curly hair and I'm like damn she's kinda cute, but I'm on my way out the door. So I move to the bar to pay my bill and then look up and she is now sitting at the bar as well. So I do what I do and ask her what her name is she tells me, and then we start talking about all kinds of stuff, music, dancing, etc. At this point its 1 or 2 in the morning, I'm tired she's cute and able to hold a good conversation with me so I'm like screw it, and I tell her to go get dressed. She looks very enthusiastic and runs off to change. I pay the barfine and tell them that I will be right back for my girl. I run over to Dollhouse and tell my black/filipina that I'm tired and will be heading to my room to rest (not quite the whole truth). Anyway she is bummed but gives me her number (advice for new mongers, get a phone if you plan to spend any amount of time in AC). So I go back to Rhapsody and pick up my girl and she is wearing this bad ass red dress, nice ass, nice calf's, long hair, everything I like. So we go to get something to eat at Margarita Station and then make our way to Sky Trax. After a bout of eating, dancing, and drinking we head to the hotel around 2am, and we go at it. But I'll be damn if I don't have performance anxiety, so I hit it for a long time but don't get that happy ending. So I'm feeling like a chump at this point, but she is real cool about it, and we fall asleep holding each other.

Friday 12/13/09

We wake up the next morning go grab some breakfast and then back to the room and I don't even have to say a word she goes to work on a brother, so I'm like damn I have to finish this. After unloading a porn star worthy load I'm asking her what time she has to leave, and wouldn't you know it, she hits me with the "I'm gonna stay with you all day". This should have been my cue to get her out of there asap so that I could continue on my path of destruction, but I let her stay until its nearly time for her to go back to work. Then she worked some bar girl magic trick on me that even has me laughing now as I write this, she's like give me money and I'll buy you a phone, since I needed a phone I'm like ok (yes I know thats some rookie shit). Anyway she tells me to come to the bar later on that night to pickup my phone. So she leaves, and I head out to Voodoo. Now since I'm only in AC for a short time, I'm more like a "weekend billionaire" and thus I try to spend about 2000 pesos in every bar I walk into, just trying to have a good time. So in Voodoo I do two body shots of of Jen, who has a NICE NICE pair of tits and I'm just about to ewr her but I remember that I have to head to perimeter for a prearranged meeting. I do the ball thing, but instead of throwing it on the ground for the girls to fight over, I just walk around and put the balls down the girls shirt, good way to get a good look at who has big vs. Small nipples. So after sucking on two perfect nipples, I head over to perimeter road and stargate to meet roadslut. When I arrive I find out that he has already left, no problem I'll just sit and have a drink or two and play around with the ladies. So I sit down and buy a drink, and then find that stargate has a special where you can buy ten ladies drinks for 950p, so I go for that. Now I'm sitting at my table with a girl name Beth. I ask Beth what she does and she tells me she is the cook. Of all the girls at Stargate, beth is the most attractive to me. She's not a stunner by any means, but just has that shy innocent look about her that I love. Well I'm considering ewr her, but she is just way to shy and I find it hard to believe that she wants to go with me, when the mamasan is more excited about being around me then she is, so I leave and head back to fields ave. So back on fields I think to myself, let me go get my phone. So I head back into Rhapsody and of course all the girls remember me, and my barfine from the previous nite shows up looking fine as hell again, and she hands me my phone. So at this point I'm like shit I could continue hunting at other bars or take this girl that I've already got some history with and bang her all night. At this point I wish I had a partner to slap some sense into me, but I fall for the looks and the history, and tell her to go get changed. So we do our thing again, go to Margarita Station and off to Sky Trax. After Sky Trax we do a little bar hopping before heading to the hotel. So we get to the hotel and start talking about valentines and her not having a valentino, and how rhapsody was having a valentines party, so I tell her I will come by rhapsody for the party and that she could be my valentina (yup another rookie mistake right there) anyway after the talk I hit it, and then she tells me those fatal words. "I love you". I'm like how the hell do you love me, we've only been together for the last two days, and she says I don't know I just do. I'm like oh man this could be bad, anyway I fall asleep.

Saturday 12/14/09

We wake up and without prompting she goes to work on a brotha, at this point I'm thinking this girl is a real spinner, and while I wouldn't say that I love her I definitely am not displeased, but really believe that I need some variety today. So not being one to want to break promises or hearts I have to come up with a plan to get a little different action in addition to my new sidekick. So she spins the morning talking about how she is gonna go home and change and then we will go to the mall together so that she can buy me a valetines day present, so at this point I'm like wtf, bar girl spending money on me, maybe there is something more to her saying she loves me then just wanting long time with me. Anyway she goes home and changes. While she is gone I get in touch with an old friend here in AC via txt message and I ask her for her cousins phone number, cause I used to bang her cousin. Just trying to set something up for my day in Manila. So I get her cousins number from her, but the friend wants to see me at Sky Trax later on that night, so I'm like ok. So I txt the girl I use to bang. My barfine comes back to the hotel looking good of course and then we head out to the mall. At the mall she buys me a gift and we talk and of course we see some of her co-workers at the mall who have pretty much written me off as off-limits because I've been with ol girl for a couple of days now. So we get back to the hotel and the girl I used to bang finally txts me back, so my barfine is like who is that. I tell her, its my friend I met awhile ago and you will meet her tonight at Sky Trax, and she is like ok, but I can tell she doesn't believe me. Anyway she leaves to get ready for work and the party at Rhapsody, so I tell her I'm gonna go bar hopping until she texts me. So I cut her loose and run into some other brothas and we all head into Typhoon. I walk in and there is this THICK (of course I like thick women) waitress in there called Liza. So I walk in and instantly request rap music be put on so that I can party. Liza goes and requests it for me and then comes back and we start talking and dancing, and having a good time. Now I'm pretty pissed off that I've allowed myself to get caught up with one girl. Now I'm thinking to myself I could just ditch the other girl and take Liza back to the room. But there are a few more girls in Rhapsody that I want to bang so I decide not to burn that bridge just yet. I tell Liza I will come back for her, I tell her I have to take care of some things first and that I would come back and get her. So in the process of all this talking, groping, dancing, kissing, etc. I pull out my phone and Liza is instantly on it, getting my phone number. No sooner then she gives me the phone back I get a txt from my valentines date asking me where I am. So I excuse myself from Typhoon and walk across the street to RHapsody for their Doghouse Valentines party. So this is the third day in a row that I've been in here, so I'm pretty much known by name now, and all the gals think I'm a good guy, so I decide its time for me to break that persona. I start talking to who I believe is the finest girl in Rhapsody Jennalyn. I ask her why she is still a cherry girl and where she is from and we kinda start flirting with one another. My girl is right next to us, but she doenst catch all the hand holding, squeezing, back rubs, butt grabs going on between me and this girl. So I ask her when she is planning to lose her cherry and she says in a couple of months, so I tell her that when I come back she needs to have lost it, or I'm going to take it, and she says ok. So again my ego could be big, because I know some bar girls will say anything to make a buck, but I'm thinking man I could take her home right now and deal with this whole cherry thing. But again my mind is telling me to not burn the Rhapsody bridge just yet. So my girl is there dancing on me the whole time, grinding me in the club. When I ask about the crazy girl from the first night who was throwing girls at me, and she comes out on stage, and I tell her to come down so I can buy her a drink. We get to talking about why she did what she did and she says that she likes me and was shy. So I pull my girl to the side and tell her look I want to barfine crazy girl, but I want you to be okay with it. Of course my girl gives the traditional filipina answer, "whatever you want". So I ewr both of them, my girl and crazy girl. Now we head out to go to Margarita Station and who is walking down the street but Liza, and she starts yelling: "how you gonna come back for me when you got two girls already". That was some funny shit and I couldn't do anything but laugh. No sooner then Liza gets back into Typhoon, I get a txt saying, "its ok if you have girl already, I just like you, are you free tomorrow, can I come see you at your hotel. " So I'm like damn I love this place. Anyway I got both of these girls at Margarita and my girl and crazy girl are talking in tagalog of course and I tell them hey speak english. So my girl tells me that crazy girl doesn't want her to be mad at her, but she really wants to fu*k me, and of course I'm like YES! So my girl is cool with it. We eat and head to Sky Trax, where we meet up with this girl I met before who's cousin I had hooked up with. We all go into the club we are hanging out, and then I notice a change in my girls attitude, so I'm like whats wrong and she says I'll talk to you later. Well come to find out that broad had the nerve to tell my girl that I was her cousins boyfriend. Talk about drama. We leave the club and my girl is now trying to get me to send crazy girl home, she just wants it to be me and her. So I'm like baby she can go home right after we are done and she is like ok. So we get back to the hotel and I start hitting it and find out this crazy girl has a little baby at home and thus has breast milk in her tits. Now while that might turn some on, that doesn't appeal to me at all. So in the middle of hitting it, I lose interest. I then fall asleep with my girl and her talking tagalog, I have about 10k pesos in my pocket so I awake with a start and just know that I've been ripped off, but my girl is right there telling me that the crazy girl is going to go home now and that I should tip her. I give her 500pesos and send her home. When she leaves I proceed to bang my girl. After which my girl is like baby you can talk to other girls and sleep with other girls, but please don't do it around me. So I'm like alright cool.

Sunday 12/15/09 So I decided to stay in Angeles until 3am Monday morning and then head straight to the Manila airport, so I head over to the front desk to extend my stay, and they tell me that they are fully booked and I cannot extend my stay. So I break the news to my girl who just breaks down and cries. Now I'm thinking this girl might sreioulsy be hooked on me, maybe its a good thing I'm leaving now. She txts me during the whole ride up to Manila professing her undying love for me and how she is not going to barfine anymore. I tell her that I understand that she needs to work so she can barfine if she wants. I also get a txt from Liza at Typhoon asking if she can come see me and inform her that I'm headed to manila to which she reply's that she can come with her friend to see me, but I decline the offer as I don't know this friend and the last thing I can afford right now is some issue in the Philipines.

I loved this three day trip, and am now looking for when I can come back for a week to two weeks for some full blown all out mongering. ______________________________________________________

Now after writing all of that, I can't claim that all of WrongInfo's claims are false but I for one had the time of my life, and plan on going back as much as I can. That said there are some issues in AC no doubt, but still overall one of the best places I've ever been too.

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Paul2020
02-19-09, 20:48
I was in AC for 3 days few week ago visit my favorite bar Camelot and blue nile, I talk to a few mommie and girl bar fine is 1200.1300 peso and most girl will only stay a few hr and only one shots not all night and multi shot like 1 yr ago on my last visit. Even the mommie told me is up to girl now not sure if other ISG member are also finding this to be true.

Fast Eddie 48In early December 2008, I was in Angeles for 4 days. Barfined two different table dancers from the Blue Nile. One the first night and the other the third night. Both were great service and very GFE. Multiple pops and had to ask them to leave late in the afternoon the next day. So for me, no problems two months ago from the Blue Nile.

H Giraffe
02-20-09, 18:19
I'm a long time lurker this is the first time I've had anything to report. This is my first time in Angeles also.

Didn't barfine anyone from Gentleman's club, Peanuts or Dirty Duck. But I got a positive vibe from all those places. A few 6-7's in each place. 50p drinks for happy hour were quite enjoyable.

But I had my mind set on Blue Nile. A lot of potential there, a dark skinned girl whose name begins with W intercepted me as I started to wander into Neroes. I asked the mamasan if she was available for barfine, mamasan said yes. The hickey on her left boob convinced me it was true. IMHO she was way hotter than anything else I'd seen so far. After I bought her a drink I could tell she wasn't into me, but I was pretty buzzed now. After the second lady drink she tells me it's her time of the month. So why did the mamasan tell me she was available? Mamasan offers me a free drink. I decide to check the ticket and there's four local drinks in the cup. So it's not a free drink at all. I protest and the extra ticket disappears. Since W is not available, I barfine the girl with the second biggest boobs in the place.

Big mistake. Right away she turns the TV on and the volume way up. She's texting somebody. When I try to talk to her she's looking at the TV. Then she tells me her sister is in the hospital. We do it missionary and there's a pretty bad smell. I wasn't able to finish. She asks me for 200 pesos for trike and I refuse then 100, when I refuse again she walks out without saying a word.

Apart from the Blue Nile, I'm still having a great time talking to mamasans and flirting with girls in other bars. Don't get the wrong idea, I'm still ecstatic to be here.

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Mister Fusion
02-21-09, 05:19
Man, I just don't get it. It's like I visited an entirely different city than these guys.

Bob Down
02-21-09, 06:49
The only time my buddy had a winner was when we went to Carousel and I knew the Mamasan. I have partied with her many times and after my friends debacle with the thieves from Insomnia, I gave her 500 php and told her to pick out a good girl for my buddy, which of course, she did.


I also know a mamsan there, last time I was in AC, she asked me to pick a girl. After sometime looking over the girls I pointed out one girl to her. She said the girl was new and not one of hers so she could not say if the girl was good or not. At the same time the guy at the table next to me walked up and grabbed this girl, so I still don't know if she was any good or not.

Next time I am in AC I am thinking of asking Mamsan to pick a girl for me and seeing what she can come up with, risky? Maybe but she has picked a girl for me once before and I ended up spending 3 nights with her.

Khun Larry
02-22-09, 10:22
Any advice on best way from Angeles to Subic would be appreciated

and where to stay in subic 1000 p - 1500 p

thanks

Darth Sushi
02-22-09, 12:47
Any advice on best way from Angeles to Subic would be appreciated

and where to stay in subic 1000 p - 1500 p

thanks
Here's the transportation part: http://www.thesoutherncrosshotel.com/shuttle.htm

Hesekiels
02-22-09, 14:41
... However, if I get overcharged a couple of times and a runner once in a couple of weeks, it is not something that ruins my life ...


Rubberyman is right, that's exactly the point! And at the end of the day the positive impressions prevail! IMHO of course!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Khun Larry
02-22-09, 16:35
Here's the transportation part: http://www.thesoutherncrosshotel.com/shuttle.htm

Thanks Darth ... just what the DR ordered

Mister Fusion
02-22-09, 16:59
Info, I think you're implying that I was paid to write something nice about Angeles City.

While I fully understand that protestations of innocence are useless on an anonymous message board, I would like to point out that facility with the English language, love of sex, and the ability to travel to AC are not mutually exclusive.

You, on the other hand, just make things up. "Most girls do this, " "Many people think that, " "It's a plot by the Secret Society of Maleficent Bar Owners. " What are you, a shill for the Phuket Chamber of Commerce?

Matius
02-22-09, 23:21
I can assume everyone reading recent posts will heed the sage advice to avoid the Philippines and AC in particular. Pattaya, a garden community certainly free of scams, runners and corruption. Columbia, just like Disney Land, safe for all to enjoy mickey. Rio, no worries of crime there. Japan, never heard of any mafia influence there. Malaysia and Indonnesia, certainly high on my list for ethical governance. China, aside from the thought police, totalitarian regime and toxic food and water, a true wonderland.

In point of fact, I can think of only two places in the world where prostitution is regulated, probably non-corrupt and fairly clean, Las Vegas and Amsterdam. Of course there are little brothels scattered throughout Europe. So there it is gents, your next destination. Of course the prices may be a little dear. But nothing beats doing it in a store front window so the tourists can take pictures.

It is certainly outrageous to think a bar girl or bar for that matter may try to scam a little money out of your pocket. Requesting Trike fare, 50 peso, ridiculous, why should we pay $1 for that girl to go home. Who could suspect that the guy in rags on the street selling knock off viagra might try to take advantage. Its unreasonable to feel unsafe as one stumbles down the street dead drunk with peso hanging out of your pockets to expect theft.

On another thought, maybe this whole conversation is ridiculous. Maybe it is the corruption that allows the bar trade to exist. If it all gets cleaned up, can you wash only half the dish. Is it possible as one has screwed the bar girl down to the lowest possible peso amount, bought less than a drink and half at the bar, take the girl to your palace at $30 a night, that maybe she is less than enamoured with your presence.

For the millions reported to have had a bad experience and never posted, how about a report from one who has had many good experiences but rarly posts. In many travels to AC, I've never been scammed. I've had more free drinks from bar owners than ever had my bill padded. I've been with multiples of girls and had good fun than the occasional runner or bad experience. There are some bars I don't like, but know others who like those bars. Its a matter of taste and sometimes one just hits it off at a particular bar.

The AC we speak of is a bar scene. It has all the things one can expect from a grouping of horney men with more money than sense and 20 something girls that freely admit they are there for the money. Treat the people with respect, smile, keep a low profile and your enjoyment will be there.

My two cents of comparison. Pattaya has many more girls, love the open air beer gardens and the bars have much more professional sex shows with full nudity. But the girls are much more professional, they don't speak english and GFE is more likely if you only select one and stick with her during most of your trip. AC is all closed in bars, the dancing is pretty lame in most cases and there is not much to do outside of the bar scene (mostly occurs at night). There are many "better" hotels in Pattaya, but not if you are looking at $30 a night. The AC girls are more innocent for the most part, speak english, more likely to provide a GFE experience, even if you are with two, three or more. The BF in AC includes all and tip is at your discretion, in Pattaya the negotiation begins after the BF. The scams on walking street in Pattaya are the stuff of legends, as also are the Police entrampments. In the end, can't say I experienced Pattaya being a cheaper trip than AC.

That's my opinion, but am open for new experiences. Perhaps the critics of AC could detail what places they think are better and of more value. Or just maybe, this is all about a comparison between AC and Orlando. AC also has its amusement park, Boom de Boom, I guess that says it all.

Matius

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Phantomtiger2
02-22-09, 23:37
I would like to ask you, since this is a board to share info and help others, what bar had the scam of the girl saying she was prostituted and forcing the punter to pay?
If this is a new scam it puts the girls and the bars at risk, and we need to be warned.

.


I do have to 2nd this motion.
As we all share the same interest here, suggest we all try to get along and just briefly describe what bars are scammers so we could be alerted for potential trouble.
For example: if one punter said had bad experience at X-bar and other punters also said the same, then could conclude the place is a scam. On the other hand, if other punters had great times at the same X-bar, then could also conclude it was not a scam but original punter just had bad luck.
But all we can do is keep reporting (good and bad experiences) so the rest of us can decide for ourselfs whether to visit that bar or not.---IMO

Redfield10
02-23-09, 03:50
I made a reservation a month or so ago at the Pacific Breeze. The reservation is for this comig Sat and Sunday. I am in Manila now. Going to Cebu for a few days in a few hours.

Pacific Breeze confirmed my original reservation but said they'd send a follow up confirmation that I"m supposed to respond to. A week or so before. I've sent several emails to confirm but they have't sent any back. I decided not to get a phone and don't really wanna go through the hassle of calling them if I don't have to.

Can I feel safe that when I arrive on Saturday that they will have my room reserved? I have printed out the original reservation, but just never received their follow up in order to do the final confirmation.

Can anyone shed some light? Thanks.


I do have to 2nd this motion.

As we all share the same interest here, suggest we all try to get along and just briefly describe what bars are scammers so we could be alerted for potential trouble.

For example: if one punter said had bad experience at X-bar and other punters also said the same, then could conclude the place is a scam. On the other hand, if other punters had great times at the same X-bar, then could also conclude it was not a scam but original punter just had bad luck.

But all we can do is keep reporting (good and bad experiences) so the rest of us can decide for ourselfs whether to visit that bar or not.---IMO

Ekspat
02-23-09, 09:21
Just being back from a nice weekend in Jakarta.
Btw. the Indonesian beauties are also worth to be visited!
Don't neglect them!

Strange to read all this so called reports of WI.
I have been to AC in Dec2008 for 14 days,
in Jan2009 for 8 days.

In all these nights I haven't had a runner,
all girls stayed until 9am at least,
some of them I even had to kick out of Lewis Grand.

All of them did 2-3 rounds per night,
sorry, thats all for me, since I'm not on vitamin-V.
Can't do more, but it's fine with me.

Several said "I come back in afternoon" for swim in pool and some bumbum, sometimes I agreed and sometimes I refused.
From Perimeter as well as from Fields.

WI, you consider Stampede as the best bar in Perimeter?
Even you had a runner??? LOL! :D
How many bars have you seen in Perimeter?

Anyhow, despite the negative reports from newbies,
I usually have a great time in AC and I'm pretty sure,
my next trip in March will be another memorable one.

And more negative reports to come, hehe, maybe the customers
go somewhere else and more choice for me... :D

Anyway. I have been to AC in the recent years on a monthly basis.
I'm going to reduce it a bit towards other places.
I want to see all of Asia and I haven't seen some places yet. Eg Seoul.
As long as flying is dirtcheap, who knows how long the crude oil price will stay at 40$ a barrel?

Life is nice, di ba?

Cheers!

Cunning Stunt
02-23-09, 17:18
Anyone knows a bar called Heaven on Santos Street.

Just watched a 2004 Canadian documentary, centered about the life of a bar girl called Mila, who worked at Heaven. New to me, but I guess some of you Angeles vets have probably seen it before, and maybe even know of Mila. It centered on work done by NGO’s so is fairly judgmental and biased against the punters who seem to be stereotyped as fat, drunken slobs with blurry faces who abuse the girls, knock them up and then fuck off. There was some intentionally gruesome footage of the inside of a local Angeles casa which may be the final destination for many superannuated Santos Bargirls although they also seem to suggest that these places are also a starting point for many young Pinay girls who are conned or coerced into these places with promises of normal jobs and then held and prostituted against their will.

It is suggested, at the end, that Mila’s short, sad life is probably over as she has been diagnosed as HIV positive whereas her friend Beth, who also appeared, has already died of Aids.

Obviously as one sided, partisan and bleak viewing as it made, it was nonetheless interesting and I can provide a link to it if anyone is interested.

Blackangst
02-23-09, 17:37
Gama ive seen that documentary on youtube...and although it is good, it does need to be watched with a grain of salt.

Carmex
02-24-09, 01:40
just download it on bittorrent or some other site.

my assessment, one sides sensationalistic journalism. has truth to it, but during ratings week. next program was street walkers in Vancouver. Just some guy trying to get his PH.D. in phils.

Street casas was pretty eye opening though.

Wizard561
02-24-09, 01:48
Anyone knows a bar called Heaven on Santos Street.


Obviously as one sided, partisan and bleak viewing as it made, it was nonetheless interesting and I can provide a link to it if anyone is interested.

Post the link if you can I would be interested...

Wizard

Cunning Stunt
02-24-09, 03:05
Post the link if you can I would be interested.

http://btjunkie.org/search?q=selling+sex+in+heaven

Laylow3
02-24-09, 09:29
I was in PI for about 4 weeks in Dec. I went to Ilocos norte, Cebu, Manila, Angeles City, and Quezon City. My favorite place. Angeles City

Angeles city. I stayed the Hotel Royal Amsterdam. You know, they list some rooms for about 1250 pesos but they are never available when I go there. Seems like a scam to lure people in and then claim that they only have the more expensive rooms. Whatever. My room was 2690 pesos and I was pissed but oh well. I got this streetwalker right in front off my hotel right off the bat for 500 pesos. 2 pops and sent her off. After that I went to the mall to get my phone set up so I could use it in PI. (I got Global) I talked to some local girls at the mall and I got 2 phone numbers. I wanted to talk to the girls in the department store. They were really pretty but the department store seem so cleaned and there weren't many people there so I thought that if I tried to hit on any of them it would put them on the spot and be odd. (anyone have any experience here? ) Also, they were constantly trying to get me to buy anything. I only made eye contact w/ the hotties.

That night, I sent a text to one of the girls that I got the phone # of earlier. She said she wanted to go get dinner. I told her to come to my hotel. That was the end of that. Maybe I moved too fast but I thought they if I bought her dinner that would be it. She was very pretty so I thought she was playing me. You think I should have taken her out? That night I go into a couple of bars and I'm checking them out. What do you think about my approach? I don't drink so what I did was go into the bar, walk around checking out all the ladies up close and then leaving. Is that ok? I heard that I have to sit down, buy a drink, and THEN check out the ladies before leaving. I was like hell no! What if there aren't any fine girls there. Do I just pay them just to peruse their selection. Nope. Anyway, I was torn between Voodoo and Geckos. I say a couple of lookers in Voodoo and two nice ones in Geckos. I chose Jane from Geckos. (some of you might know her and sampled her even) I found her pick on Gecko's site: http://www.geckos. Ph/gallery/pics/0908/george_bday_party_090208/imagepages/image36.html The BF was 1300 pesos. I know I should have paid 1000 pesos only but I didn't know that I have to give the money to mamasan. I thought that I give the money to girl who in turn hands it to the mamasan. (so when the mamasan says the price do I just tell her "no, I'll give 1000 pesos NOT 1300"? ) before we went back to my hotel I took her to a karaoke place. We sang for an hour and then we back to my hotel. I thought it went well. Jane is pretty IMHO. Pretty face, dark chocolate skin, and long hair. Nice body too. She gave me BBBJ and not CIM but on her face. We went three rounds. I wanted to do anal but she didn't like it. I probably should have given her extra money for anal but I didn't know how much to give so I let it be. I sent her off the next morning.

Two days later, I went to Agasya. I was trying very hard to get the mamasan to go with me. She was pretty and had a very fun attitude. She said she couldn't though. I was going to wait until she got off but I thought what if she still doesn't go with me after she finishes work. So I got a tall thin girl with braces. BF. 2000 pesos. Man, she sucked big time in bed. She was so dead. She just lay there. 2 pops, that's all. No blow job b/c I was scared since she had braces and no anal. I just wish she had more spirit. I sent her off the next morning.

Cebu. I didn't get any girls here because I just didn't feel right there. Everything was so spread out. I don't know, maybe I was in the wrong part of town. I stayed at the Century Hotel. The guy that worked there tried to pull a quick scam on me saying "I'll bring some girls to your room and you chose which one you like" I said ok as long as they are super hot. He says "but I need money for a cab" I was like yeah right. See ya later, buddy. I went out to Vikings and two other bars which I don't remember. I found the quality in Cebu to be very low. But so were the prices. The girls in Viking told me that their BF was 650 pesos. So that means it's actually about 400-500 pesos. Am I correct? I decided not to get anyone. Besides that wasn't my focus while I was there anyway. I went there to purchase some guitars. I ended buying a guitar, banduria, and ukelele for total 29, 200 pesos cash.

Ilocos norte (laoag). I was visiting my friends family so I didn't get any action here.

Manila. I stayed at Eurotel. I liked Eurotel b/c the rooms were small and had a safe. That meant I could keep a close eye on the girls if I wanted to take a shower. The first day I was there I got caught up in a scam. There is this dark skinned ilocano guy who hangs out in front of the executive plaza hotel. He said he knew where all the finest girls were. Yeah right, I go w/ this fucker for about 30 min. And I don't see a single hot girl. When I tell him I'm ready to go to la cafe he takes me to a small house in a dark alley. My dumb ass goes in there like a fucking idiot. There must have been 8 Filipino guys standing outside the house. I could have gotten royally fucked up but I think maybe the fact that I spoke tagalog saved me. We get inside the house and he brings out this 17 yr old girl in front of her so-called parents. Man, I almost shit my pants. I thought I was being setup and the police was just around the corner. I told him that I was interested and left promptly. That was the end of that or so I thought. (I'll come back to this guy in a moment) So, I went to la cafe. Didn't really see any hotties and what's up w/ the asian only section in the back! I went upstairs (I think I had to 200 pesos) a bit better quality but not much so a waste of 200 pesos. I went back downstairs and I start negotiating prices with this kinda thick girl who had a son. She said 1000 pesos right away and I said 500 pesos. We agreed on 700 pesos. Again I know I should have started lower and only given her 500 pesos in the end. We get back to the hotel and once this girl gets I see her scar from where she had a C-section. That really turned me off. I banged this girl for about 20 min. And she starts complaining saying her vagina hurts and to hurry up and finish. I was upset to say the least. So I finish and send her off.

The next day, back to la cafe. I would have gone to more different bars but after being in angeles city I was lazy. Again I go upstairs and downstairs but not much quality. I do see 2 cuties, one is taken and the other one fucking blew me off. I tried to talk to her but she just got up and walked off. Three of her friends even laughed at me. I was like shit! That's messed up, I just got dissed by some PI *****s. I just laughed it off and went outside. OMG, I saw this fine filipina outside. I approached her and she was all over me. I was so happy but at the same time confused. I thought it was some kind of scam b/c she was really hot and I'm no brad pitt or anything. She was teasing sexually like crazy. She said I looked like a black guy she used to date. I told her 1000 pesos and she had to stay w/ me for at least three hours. I thought LT would be expensive since she was hot but she went with me anyway. We get back to my place and she is tripping big time. She's acting all shy and shit. Back home in the us, I probably wouldn't mind that but not a ***** I'm paying for. I was getting angrier and angrier. Then when she took a shower she was in there for like 20 min. She got out of the shower and I just told her to leave. She said ok but you still have to pay me. I was like yeah fucking right, get out! She apologized and promised to act better. After that, she was fucking great. I fucked her three times and man it was great. We cuddled afterwards and GFE was so good. I'd say she was a 8 of 10 (looks). Great body, cute face, big tender lips. Normally I never kiss in the mouth but I couldn't stop french-kissing her. Her lips were so big and soft. Check this out, I told her that I bboy and she started beat-boxing & freestyling (rapping) in bed for me. Her pseudo name was Jane. She doesn't work in La Cafe from what the security guards told me, she just frequents there from time to time looking for an American boyfriend.

That's about it. Final thoughts: Angeles city is the place for me. Everything is all within walking distance and there are plenty of bars for you to discover to keep you busy for a couple of weeks. I didn't like Manila at all really except for Jane. I didn't get a chance to visit the infamous P. Burgos street but I don't know if I'm really missing anything. I don't think I would ever pay the prices they want just for pussy. To me pussy is pussy. I just wish there was a specific area (s) in or near Angeles city where you could go and find drop-dead gorgeous women guarantee similar to like what is supposedly offered in P. Burgos street. Do that and Angeles city would be nearly perfect. Also, I didn't go to the blow job bars on Santos street. I meant to do that but simply forgot. I think that would be nice to get a BJ, finish and then get another one all for grand total of 400-500 pesos. Shit, I wonder if your balls were drained and you didn't have any cum left in you but still you paid for another blow job. Would the girl have to giving you a blow job until you bust a nut or is there a time limit. If there's no time limit then I plan on going there with a good book and pair of drained balls.

P.S. I only wrote about the times that I actually got laid, I left all the other crap out. I hope I didn't bore anyone.

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Monger 2007
02-24-09, 09:55
Mr Redfield,

Pacific breeze is really good at sending all the confirmations.and if u did not get any replys, then wrong address or so. try to go back to pacific breeze hotel website and send an email again enquiring about the status of ur reservation. hope this helps
I made a reservation a month or so ago at the Pacific Breeze. The reservation is for this comig Sat and Sunday. I am in Manila now. Going to Cebu for a few days in a few hours.

Pacific Breeze confirmed my original reservation but said they'd send a follow up confirmation that I"m supposed to respond to. A week or so before. I've sent several emails to confirm but they have't sent any back. I decided not to get a phone and don't really wanna go through the hassle of calling them if I don't have to.

Can I feel safe that when I arrive on Saturday that they will have my room reserved? I have printed out the original reservation, but just never received their follow up in order to do the final confirmation.

Can anyone shed some light? Thanks.

Poopbunny
02-24-09, 21:30
I was in PI for about 4 weeks in Dec. I went to Ilocos norte, Cebu, Manila, Angeles City, and Quezon City. My favorite place. Angeles City

I don't drink so what I did was go into the bar, walk around checking out all the ladies up close and then leaving. Is that ok? I heard that I have to sit down, buy a drink, and THEN check out the ladies before leaving. I was like hell no!

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Good Report Laylow3

The BF prices you mentioned are correct, just don't tip them too big, after the deed, but sounds like you didn't, that's ok too.

Walking into the bar for a quick recon then leaving. I do that all the time.

Normally, the girls are trying to pull you in, I sort of succumb but I tell them I just want to look and they always agree. The good ones will thank you for looking, some will just let you leave without saying anything and others may try to pull you back, but its just their job to try to make you stay. 5 mins after you are gone, you will be forgotten, because they are trying to convince the next punter to stay (who also walk in then walk out).

Some will bar hop, but I'm over excessive beer drinking.

X Man
02-25-09, 01:50
Since you met her at the mall, you should have assumed she was a regular gal. I guess she won't be giving her phone number out in the mall anymore. Classic case of using the small head rather than the big head.

And what would be so terrible about taking her to dinner?

Thanks for the interesting post.

X




After that I went to the mall to get my phone set up so I could use it in PI. (I got Global) I talked to some local girls at the mall and I got 2 phone numbers.

That night, I sent a text to one of the girls that I got the phone # of earlier. She said she wanted to go get dinner. I told her to come to my hotel. That was the end of that. Maybe I moved too fast but I thought they if I bought her dinner that would be it. She was very pretty so I thought she was playing me. You think I should have taken her out? .[/blue][/size]

H Giraffe
02-25-09, 04:03
The story about getting a HJ in the U.S. next to a KFC, hilarious. And it's really quite poignant after 5 terrific days in Angels.

I met a really sweet genuine girl from one of the bars here. I barfined her for three days and went to Subic. Just a wonderful GFE.

Thanks to ISG and my GFE I have some wonderful memories to take with me back to my boring job.

Laylow3
02-25-09, 06:53
[quote]Since you met her at the mall, you should have assumed she was a regular gal. I guess she won't be giving her phone number out in the mall anymore. Classic case of using the small head rather than the big head.

And what would be so terrible about taking her to dinner? [quote/]I did in fact think she was a "regular" girl. "Regular" girls play games too. I'm not saying that you're wrong but I just wanted to have sex with her that's all. I have read posts here about guys taking them out, spending money on them, and dating for a short while before the mission is accomplished but for me that's too much like dating here in Hi. There's no guarantee that I will get laid. Therefore I prefer not to even go down that tunnel if I can't see the light at the end of it. That's also why I don't do the date sites thing either. I might change my mind about the date sites though. I was searching AFF for filipinas two days ago and it listed most of the girls as having logged in within the last week. Plus a lot of them were silver/gold members. I was like wow! That's pretty neat. Maybe I could actually score some very attractive girls that way.

I don't know though, some guys try it anyway actually have success at times but I just don't know if it's worth it. The time that you have to put in before you're able to have sex with them and all. Nevertheless I think the next time I'm there I will try it (with a super hot regular girl) just to see if it works out. I think I should try it before I condemn it. Regular PI girls might be different from US girls. You see my problem with "regular" girls is getting laid. I get a lot of phone numbers even here in Hi but I can never close the deal. So I tend to get very discouraged quickly if I don't get the impression she wants to sleep with me. You know I've been living here in Hi for about 4 years and besides this one girl (friends w/benefits) I haven't been able to have sex with another girl my entire time here. Very sad but true. And I'm too cheap to spend $200 on a working girl here. It's ok though because since I can get to Singapore very easily via free military MAC flights I'll be going to Angeles City every couple of months for at least 2-3 weeks at a time.

Kogal_Lover
02-25-09, 10:37
I’M wrapping up my last full day in Angeles, so I thought I’d gather my thoughts while they’re still fresh. For background, this is my first time in the Philippines but I’ve been to Thailand several times. I apologize for the length of this report. I’m trying to include lots of details for first timers such as myself, so any feedback from the more senior posters is always appreciated.

I flew in last week from the US and arrived in Manila around midnight. After clearing customs I headed to a money changer and changed $100 so that I would have something to start out with. I previously asked in the General Reports section about currency. After the excellent feedback there, what I did was bring 60% cash and several credit cards. I was over budgeting since it was my first time, so even if I had issues withdrawing money using the credit cards I could still have a good time. I had previously made hotel reservations with Pacific Breeze, and arranged taxi service for myself and a friend who was also going to Angeles for the first time. We followed the instructions Pacific Breeze provided on how to find our driver and were on our way.

From the airport to Angeles was about two hours, most of that time spent getting out of metro Manila. Once we arrived at the hotel I tipped the driver 200 pesos and had the taxi charge put on my hotel bill. I picked the Grand Jacuzzi, and it was a nice room. For those that have been to Pattaya, I think you get better accommodations at Dynasty Inn for a much cheaper price but my needs were met so I was satisfied with the room. Since my friend and I were still awake we decided to see what was available in the early hours of the morning.

We headed to Fields and went to Dollhouse. It seemed weird to go into a bar at 3am and for everyone to say good morning to you. We were seated against the wall and ordered our beers, 85 pesos if I remember correctly for San Miguel Lite. Dollhouse has a large, roomy feel to it that I can’t think of any equivalent go-go bar in Thailand. They have an upstairs area that overlooks the somewhat small stage that all the dancers cram onto and has pool tables. After we sipped our drinks for a bit several dancers migrated over to our table. I asked the waitress how much lady drinks were and it was 150 pesos each, although on later excursions to this and other bars we stopped asking and it was usually 250 pesos. Some of the girls sitting next to us were attractive enough and I wanted to get into the swing of things, so I began negotiations.

As mentioned previously on this board, it is very helpful to ask the girls upfront whether they will meet your needs. The first girl I talked to turned out to be a cherry girl. Another girl beside her pointed to yet another girl and suggested her. I asked her if she did blowjobs and she said if I wanted she’d even lick my ass, so that worked for me. Barfine was 1350 pesos. I apologize for omitting names and bedroom details but I’m just not good with those. My friend found someone to his liking and we headed back to Pacific Breeze. His girl stayed until 10am, mine would’ve stayed longer but I wanted to do other things so I gave her 500 pesos and sent her on her way. 500 pesos was what I tipped all the girls I barfined if they made me happy, and for this trip I got lazy and tended to repeat with the several girls that worked for me.

Here the story will get less linear. Day activities: over the week’s stay my friend and I headed to SM Clark mall several times. First we tried to walk there, but went straight instead of left at a major intersection and after a long walk admitted we were lost and took a trike. Trikes were not bad, at least compared to tuk-tuk drivers in Thailand who I despise with a passion. We confirmed the price before getting in, to and from the mall was 70 pesos. I used several of the ATMs there to withdraw a cash advance against my Capital One card. It was $10 finance charge each time, no currency conversion fee as Capital One eats that, and around 48 pesos to the dollar. I took out 4000 pesos each time, so I don’t know what the limit was. I alternated withdrawing money and changing dollars at the hotel front desk, which was 2 pesos worse than the regular exchange rate. Other than wander the mall we usually hung out in our rooms or down at the hotel restaurant. I am an Internet junkie so I rented a laptop from the hotel for 250 pesos a day. We sleep a lot during the day and afternoon as our sleep tended to be broken up into 4 hour chunks. Part of the problem was our night activities.

Night activities: we spent the entirety of the trip trolling the Fields bars. I did a solo sojourn to Perimeter which I get to in a bit. I have to admit, the layout of the bars is very convenient. In a 5-10 minute walk you can cover all the Fields bars. We tended to end up at Dollhouse and Atlantis. Some of the smaller bars we visited like I believe Typhoon were too cramped for our tastes, where your choices were either sitting right in front of a wall of women or five feet back. My friend liked Atlantis’s second floor couches as those gave us some breathing space. It was interesting that for the most part the Atlantis girls did not seem to wander about and consort with the customers unless you asked the waitress or mamasan to get them. Most of the girls stayed on the second floor stage balcony. We didn’t barfine anyone at Atlantis, although my friend had several girls come over and bought them drinks. He hasn’t mongered in a long time and it was a cheaper thrill than buying women drinks in American bars.

Other bars worth mentioning: we actually like Agasya because they had nice couches were you could sit down and relax and not be bothered. After having a drink at Dollhouse or Angelwitch or Tropix and having women pester you for lady drinks, it was nice to have a spot to sit, have a drink and only stare at some women. My friend tried to barfine a girl from Agasya but she claimed she was on her period. Didn’t feel any bad vibes for not being Korean.

Miscellaneous notes: the street people were for the most part easy to ignore, although some of the child beggars were persistent and I had three men in the space of 10 feet try to sell me Cialis. If I turned down the guy right in front of you, why would I now buy from you? We stuck with hotel food for most of the stay. It was edible and convenient.

For our last full day my friend decided to take the day tour to mount Pinatubo. I am very lazy when it comes to hiking so I declined. Instead I decided to check out the Perimeter bars. The popular online map confused me, because I thought the distances for the Perimeter maps were roughly in line with the Fields maps and that a short walk would cover it. The Perimeter bars are very much spread out, more like Walking street in Pattaya except with more non-bar locations. It was along Perimeter road that I got scammed.

You can’t always go through life without a few pitfalls, and this was my time. A old Filipino man with a gap in his upper front teeth pulled up in a trike as I was walking along Perimeter and claimed he was from my hotel. I asked him which hotel and he ignored it and continued on. I made the mistaking of not breaking off there but I thought if there was scam I could see it coming and break of then. Such was my arrogance. He spoke of general matters and wanted to show me a new bar had just been opened. Since I wanted to walk down Perimeter I didn’t see any harm. Further down in a driveway another trike pulls up with another Filipino claiming to be owner of said bar. After general banter, including talk of trying to get me to import goods into the country so he could sell them, I let my guard down and I had my wallet in my hand. The owner was quick, he grabbed it and had the money out. I immediately thought full robbery with three Filipinos (including the trike driver) to myself. Said owner claimed he only wanted to inspect the wallet after much harrumphing gave the money back. After a minute more of conversation I walked away, said owner still claiming later he’d give me free drink coupons for his bar when I headed back his way. Some distance away it occurred to me that maybe he didn’t give back all the money. Sure enough, the few thousand pesos I had were still there, but the hundred dollar bill I planned to change later was gone. Well, it was an expensive learning lesson. Since I thought was going to be a full robbery it didn’t sting quite so much, although I was annoyed that I let my guard down like that. I post this here so that other first timers learn from my experience, and avoid these people. Even so, I would not count this as a strike against Angeles per se, sucker scams happen everywhere.

Aside from being scammed, two things I want to mention about Perimeter are Matrix Brawn bar and Imma Massage. Before the scam I went to Matrix Brawn to get a blowjob. I picked two of the three women that were there (it was very early in the afternoon) and headed into the back room. There are no curtains between the couches like Lolitas in Thailand, but this time I was the only one there. It was 500 pesos each for the ladies, 55 pesos for the San Miguel Lite. The ladies looked decent and did the job but after a bit started asking when I’d come, which a little annoying. After the scam I went to Imma Massage, where I had wanted to get a regular, normal massage. That was 500 pesos and was passable, although not quite Thailand. Maybe there was more on the menu? I wasn’t interested having already got serviced at Matrix and the massage lady didn’t offer.

This report wandered quite a bit, so if anyone has questions please ask and I will try to fill in the blanks. The information from previous posters was invaluable to me, and I do want to give back to the community. My friend and I have a couple days now to spend in Manila, so I will post that information in that section.

Thanks

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Docwiltro
02-25-09, 11:22
If he is the older, fairly well dressed guy who brings his own plastic chair on which to sit, he has been playing this game for many years. You were surely right to exit a. S. A. P. He is a good and friendly talker, but be careful with this dude.


There is this dark skinned ilocano guy who hangs out in front of the executive plaza hotel.

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Ekspat
02-26-09, 08:26
Hey Ekspat, I will be there in March too, maybe catch up for an SMB again.
Sure, man! Second week of March,
I'll stay in Lewis again.
My RP phone number still same same.

Cheers!

Ekspat
02-26-09, 08:27
3.5 weeks to 'wheels up' - YEEEHAAAA!
8 days to go........... :p

Maxim000
02-26-09, 09:25
We are having a bit of a boys tour on the Easter long weekend. Our choices sem to have come down to Angeles, Cebu or Bangkok/Pattaya.

Being the good Catholic country that it is, is it business as usual in Angeles over the easter weekend? Does it get particularly busy even?

HornyGeorge
02-26-09, 22:47
After all his goings on about shilling by bar owners, which may occur but certainly does not explain why WAY more posters post good things about ac than bash it, he never misses a chance to tell us how great Stampede bar is. Hmmmm. Now all the bashing of other bars combined with THIS would make sense; would make sense coming from somebody with a financial interest IN STAMPEDE!

After reading his posts suggesting Stampede is the only honest bar in town, I tried to find Stampede just to check it out (without success). It certainly is not a household name among the ac hounds. Any other established poster shave opinions on Stampede?

Albetros
02-27-09, 06:58
Fly the bus and southern cross is both 600P.

Southern cross will drop you at orchid and beyond and Swagman in Diamond.

Fredje1961
02-27-09, 08:21
Hi guys,

I have a "girlfriend" in Angeles City, and she's got a small sari-sari store (general store).

I was talking to her, and she was wondering if there's anything specific that "white" guys need most when away from home (and mongering)

I told her that having European or American condoms would be a good start.

Based on your experiences, are there any other things that would be useful?

Thanks for your ideas and replies,

Fred

Poopbunny
02-27-09, 09:40
After reading his posts suggesting Stampede is the only honest bar in town, I tried to find Stampede just to check it out (without success). It certainly is not a household name among the ac hounds. Any other established poster shave opinions on Stampede?

Stampede is along Perimeter (near the Brass Knob) and therefore is cheaper than Fields but I don't think they open as late (at least into the A.M) as bars in Fields.

I normally pop my head in if I'm walking along Perimeter from my hotel to Fields. On my last trip there were a couple of nice girls I would have considered BF.

X Man
02-27-09, 09:47
Sun screen, phone cards, Marketing bullshit...

Marketing bullshit ....some marketing blah blah. How about some chocolate with one rated as number one by Filipinas?

English and other language signs....(Master of this sari sari speaks English) Duh.

Sarcastic joking....Filipino price 2 pesos / Foreign price 2000. Could create a dialogue.

Well, just a brainstorm...

X










Hi guys,

I have a "girlfriend" in Angeles City, and she's got a small sari-sari store (general store).

I was talking to her, and she was wondering if there's anything specific that "white" guys need most when away from home (and mongering)

I told her that having European or American condoms would be a good start.

Based on your experiences, are there any other things that would be useful?

Thanks for your ideas and replies,

Fred

Blink157
02-27-09, 09:49
ahahaha,
anyway I go AC laters , not sure if I drop by at stampede to talk to WI LOL and bargain the barfine to 1000p hahahaha..

Met some german guys last week over there. They really liked it, ask them the other day, so guys, how was it?? Had fun? One of them told me, yeah , but they wanted allways 1300p or 1400p barfine to come with me, so I bargained with the mama san..hahaha..can you believe that?
Its true, I told them its on every bar like this and in bars on upper field or perimeter its a bit cheaper, even though the gurls dont have much teeth, but hey, lets not be so picky, right?
Those guys came from cambodia, where they spend around 10 US for a gurl. So they just thought, lets bargain a bit, we are not newbies to the p4p scene. hahahaha...Im still laughing when thinkin about that. Anyway, those guys had fun, they went to pattaya before and told me that they found that AC had a lot of more younger and more prettier women avaible here and the bestthing is, they speak english.
Wrog Info, of course in Pattaya they also do..U go with me? suckee suckee and fuckee fuckee? sanuk? you like ? you? YOu?....zzZZZzz.thats why i like the massage place so much, specially because they dont talk over there.

So, its friday and Im ready to go to that "boring place" called Angeles city again, where I spend a fortune of 1500p to have a hotel with a pool, 50p for a beer (oh my god) and maybe 1300p for barfine a young hot girl from some of those scam bars along fields :D
I cant wait to get scammed!!
Happy weekend to all!

Blink has left the building

X Man
02-27-09, 09:55
For a (non-English speaking) German Kraut, that is a damn good post.

Thanks Blinky



ahahaha,
anyway I go AC laters , not sure if I drop by at stampede to talk to WI LOL and bargain the barfine to 1000p hahahaha..

Met some german guys last week over there. They really liked it, ask them the other day, so guys, how was it?? Had fun? One of them told me, yeah , but they wanted allways 1300p or 1400p barfine to come with me, so I bargained with the mama san..hahaha..can you believe that?
Its true, I told them its on every bar like this and in bars on upper field or perimeter its a bit cheaper, even though the gurls dont have much teeth, but hey, lets not be so picky, right?
Those guys came from cambodia, where they spend around 10 US for a gurl. So they just thought, lets bargain a bit, we are not newbies to the p4p scene. hahahaha...Im still laughing when thinkin about that. Anyway, those guys had fun, they went to pattaya before and told me that they found that AC had a lot of more younger and more prettier women avaible here and the bestthing is, they speak english.

Blink has left the building

Redfield10
02-27-09, 12:02
Howdy all,

I'm heading up to Angeles Saturday morning (28th) and staying Saturday and Sunday night at the Pacific Breeze. If anyone wants to hang out, shoot me Private Message and I'll check tomorrow morning. Give me your name, or phone or email address, etc. Maybe we can meet in the lobby. It's my first time in Angeles.

Any last minute tips appreciated.

HenryV
02-27-09, 16:48
If you would have got in the trike to go to the "new bar" you would have wound up in a remotely located house where they would insist you play poker. They would let you win the first few hands - and I am sure you know the rest of the story.

The best advice I ever received on this board is to ignore any friendly native on the street. Just act like they are not there. Indeed, I make sure I stay in a well lit and occupied area until they are gone.


I’M wrapping up my last full day in Angeles, so I thought I’d gather my thoughts while they’re still fresh. For background, this is my first time in the Philippines but I’ve been to Thailand several times. I apologize for the length of this report. I’m trying to include lots of details for first timers such as myself, so any feedback from the more senior posters is always appreciated.

I flew in last week from the US and arrived in Manila around midnight. After clearing customs I headed to a money changer and changed $100 so that I would have something to start out with. I previously asked in the General Reports section about currency. After the excellent feedback there, what I did was bring 60% cash and several credit cards. I was over budgeting since it was my first time, so even if I had issues withdrawing money using the credit cards I could still have a good time. I had previously made hotel reservations with Pacific Breeze, and arranged taxi service for myself and a friend who was also going to Angeles for the first time. We followed the instructions Pacific Breeze provided on how to find our driver and were on our way.

From the airport to Angeles was about two hours, most of that time spent getting out of metro Manila. Once we arrived at the hotel I tipped the driver 200 pesos and had the taxi charge put on my hotel bill. I picked the Grand Jacuzzi, and it was a nice room. For those that have been to Pattaya, I think you get better accommodations at Dynasty Inn for a much cheaper price but my needs were met so I was satisfied with the room. Since my friend and I were still awake we decided to see what was available in the early hours of the morning.

We headed to Fields and went to Dollhouse. It seemed weird to go into a bar at 3am and for everyone to say good morning to you. We were seated against the wall and ordered our beers, 85 pesos if I remember correctly for San Miguel Lite. Dollhouse has a large, roomy feel to it that I can’t think of any equivalent go-go bar in Thailand. They have an upstairs area that overlooks the somewhat small stage that all the dancers cram onto and has pool tables. After we sipped our drinks for a bit several dancers migrated over to our table. I asked the waitress how much lady drinks were and it was 150 pesos each, although on later excursions to this and other bars we stopped asking and it was usually 250 pesos. Some of the girls sitting next to us were attractive enough and I wanted to get into the swing of things, so I began negotiations.

As mentioned previously on this board, it is very helpful to ask the girls upfront whether they will meet your needs. The first girl I talked to turned out to be a cherry girl. Another girl beside her pointed to yet another girl and suggested her. I asked her if she did blowjobs and she said if I wanted she’d even lick my ass, so that worked for me. Barfine was 1350 pesos. I apologize for omitting names and bedroom details but I’m just not good with those. My friend found someone to his liking and we headed back to Pacific Breeze. His girl stayed until 10am, mine would’ve stayed longer but I wanted to do other things so I gave her 500 pesos and sent her on her way. 500 pesos was what I tipped all the girls I barfined if they made me happy, and for this trip I got lazy and tended to repeat with the several girls that worked for me.

Here the story will get less linear. Day activities: over the week’s stay my friend and I headed to SM Clark mall several times. First we tried to walk there, but went straight instead of left at a major intersection and after a long walk admitted we were lost and took a trike. Trikes were not bad, at least compared to tuk-tuk drivers in Thailand who I despise with a passion. We confirmed the price before getting in, to and from the mall was 70 pesos. I used several of the ATMs there to withdraw a cash advance against my Capital One card. It was $10 finance charge each time, no currency conversion fee as Capital One eats that, and around 48 pesos to the dollar. I took out 4000 pesos each time, so I don’t know what the limit was. I alternated withdrawing money and changing dollars at the hotel front desk, which was 2 pesos worse than the regular exchange rate. Other than wander the mall we usually hung out in our rooms or down at the hotel restaurant. I am an Internet junkie so I rented a laptop from the hotel for 250 pesos a day. We sleep a lot during the day and afternoon as our sleep tended to be broken up into 4 hour chunks. Part of the problem was our night activities.

Night activities: we spent the entirety of the trip trolling the Fields bars. I did a solo sojourn to Perimeter which I get to in a bit. I have to admit, the layout of the bars is very convenient. In a 5-10 minute walk you can cover all the Fields bars. We tended to end up at Dollhouse and Atlantis. Some of the smaller bars we visited like I believe Typhoon were too cramped for our tastes, where your choices were either sitting right in front of a wall of women or five feet back. My friend liked Atlantis’s second floor couches as those gave us some breathing space. It was interesting that for the most part the Atlantis girls did not seem to wander about and consort with the customers unless you asked the waitress or mamasan to get them. Most of the girls stayed on the second floor stage balcony. We didn’t barfine anyone at Atlantis, although my friend had several girls come over and bought them drinks. He hasn’t mongered in a long time and it was a cheaper thrill than buying women drinks in American bars.

Other bars worth mentioning: we actually like Agasya because they had nice couches were you could sit down and relax and not be bothered. After having a drink at Dollhouse or Angelwitch or Tropix and having women pester you for lady drinks, it was nice to have a spot to sit, have a drink and only stare at some women. My friend tried to barfine a girl from Agasya but she claimed she was on her period. Didn’t feel any bad vibes for not being Korean.

Miscellaneous notes: the street people were for the most part easy to ignore, although some of the child beggars were persistent and I had three men in the space of 10 feet try to sell me Cialis. If I turned down the guy right in front of you, why would I now buy from you? We stuck with hotel food for most of the stay. It was edible and convenient.

For our last full day my friend decided to take the day tour to mount Pinatubo. I am very lazy when it comes to hiking so I declined. Instead I decided to check out the Perimeter bars. The popular online map confused me, because I thought the distances for the Perimeter maps were roughly in line with the Fields maps and that a short walk would cover it. The Perimeter bars are very much spread out, more like Walking street in Pattaya except with more non-bar locations. It was along Perimeter road that I got scammed.

You can’t always go through life without a few pitfalls, and this was my time. A old Filipino man with a gap in his upper front teeth pulled up in a trike as I was walking along Perimeter and claimed he was from my hotel. I asked him which hotel and he ignored it and continued on. I made the mistaking of not breaking off there but I thought if there was scam I could see it coming and break of then. Such was my arrogance. He spoke of general matters and wanted to show me a new bar had just been opened. Since I wanted to walk down Perimeter I didn’t see any harm. Further down in a driveway another trike pulls up with another Filipino claiming to be owner of said bar. After general banter, including talk of trying to get me to import goods into the country so he could sell them, I let my guard down and I had my wallet in my hand. The owner was quick, he grabbed it and had the money out. I immediately thought full robbery with three Filipinos (including the trike driver) to myself. Said owner claimed he only wanted to inspect the wallet after much harrumphing gave the money back. After a minute more of conversation I walked away, said owner still claiming later he’d give me free drink coupons for his bar when I headed back his way. Some distance away it occurred to me that maybe he didn’t give back all the money. Sure enough, the few thousand pesos I had were still there, but the hundred dollar bill I planned to change later was gone. Well, it was an expensive learning lesson. Since I thought was going to be a full robbery it didn’t sting quite so much, although I was annoyed that I let my guard down like that. I post this here so that other first timers learn from my experience, and avoid these people. Even so, I would not count this as a strike against Angeles per se, sucker scams happen everywhere.

Aside from being scammed, two things I want to mention about Perimeter are Matrix Brawn bar and Imma Massage. Before the scam I went to Matrix Brawn to get a blowjob. I picked two of the three women that were there (it was very early in the afternoon) and headed into the back room. There are no curtains between the couches like Lolitas in Thailand, but this time I was the only one there. It was 500 pesos each for the ladies, 55 pesos for the San Miguel Lite. The ladies looked decent and did the job but after a bit started asking when I’d come, which a little annoying. After the scam I went to Imma Massage, where I had wanted to get a regular, normal massage. That was 500 pesos and was passable, although not quite Thailand. Maybe there was more on the menu? I wasn’t interested having already got serviced at Matrix and the massage lady didn’t offer.

This report wandered quite a bit, so if anyone has questions please ask and I will try to fill in the blanks. The information from previous posters was invaluable to me, and I do want to give back to the community. My friend and I have a couple days now to spend in Manila, so I will post that information in that section.

Thanks

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Darth Sushi
02-28-09, 02:00
If you would have got in the trike to go to the "new bar" you would have wound up in a remotely located house where they would insist you play poker. They would let you win the first few hands - and I am sure you know the rest of the story.

The best advice I ever received on this board is to ignore any friendly native on the street. Just act like they are not there. Indeed, I make sure I stay in a well lit and occupied area until they are gone.
Also, watch out for:
---> "the hotel sent me to pick you up"
---> "Hey, remember me?"
---> "My friend, how are you?"

They're going to act like your best friend so Billpsu's advise is appropriate.

Never ride a trike next to Johnny's Supermarket. These trikes are notorious.

Cunning Stunt
02-28-09, 03:29
The best advice I ever received on this board is to ignore any friendly native on the street. Just act like they are not there. Indeed, I make sure I stay in a well lit and occupied area until they are gone.

Surely you should amend that to read, friendly MALE natives, Bill :D.

Is there any bunch of lowlife scum anywhere that can equal the Angeles tricie drivers? They make the Pattaya Baht Bus drivers appear like a bunch of choirboys in comparison.

J Wow
03-01-09, 03:31
Hi guys,

I have a "girlfriend" in Angeles City, and she's got a small sari-sari store (general store).

I was talking to her, and she was wondering if there's anything specific that "white" guys need most when away from home (and mongering)

I told her that having European or American condoms would be a good start.

Based on your experiences, are there any other things that would be useful?

Thanks for your ideas and replies,

FredDon't know if it's true but a retired army expat told me shoe laces were hard to get. I looked at him funny but he insisted it was true.

X Man
03-01-09, 07:47
50 times!!! Ekspat...you *slutt*!

My last visit to Stampede was uneventful, but on a previous journey I had quite an interesting afternoon... The girls had apparently had a few shots in them already and were really in a playful mood. I seem to remember a great deal of fun after one of them blew up a condom like a balloon. Since it was a flavored condom, everyone seemed to want a lick. Then it got batted around a bit, so the dancers were doing more than looking in the mirrors.

There was a cherry girl there, and they teased her relentlessly. One quote that I remember was, "Cherry girls are only good for one thing -- blowjobs".

At one point I had two ladies stroking my cock. The subsequent barfine of one of these lasses was also interesting as she had a *cuntt* ring. Unfortunately, she never let me take a picture of that treasure. I did get a few fully clothed shots of her which were included in a Swiss Chalet Hotel review a year or two ago. Or was it three...

You just never know when you'll be treated to one of those unforgettable moments of debauchery and pleasure.

X



Being roughly 50 times to AC in this decade, believe me, I've been to every bar. And Stampede is one of those I go from time to time, but I don't expect much.
Having a drink there and move on.
Okay, maybe it has improved the last months or so, I'll see.
I think I have done that as well..... :D

Bacwy1
03-01-09, 19:57
I just got back to Iraq from AC and I cant wait to go again.

First thing is I will only stay at the Lewis Grand Hotel there. I had less than 30 minutes to get my stuff ready and head to the plane to go to the phils for my R and R. I tried to make a reservation there but they were booked. I got to the phils and met one of the owners at one of the bars there and he took care of me and got me a room there. The staff was excetional and the prices for food and drinks was so much cheaper than other places. I had the best expierience there that the only thing i can compare it to was my time in vegas at the bellagio or cesears palace.

Wild Orchids Resort, the rooms were nice and the bar and house cleaning staff was friendly. The prices for drinks though both in the room and in the bar were high. I felt like with the hotel as a whole that they just wanted to squeeze every single penny out of you that they could. For what I paid there I think they need to go up to Lewis Grand and get some pointers on customer care and service.

Kokomos was bare bones hotel but nice for what it was. The lady at the front desk was helpfull and went above and beyond for the customers.

Brass Knobb was ok but also very bare bones. It was what you pay for but I did like the fact that they seemed to care more about your privacy.

Fly the Bus is a nice service, a lot cheaper than a taxi but make sure you get the newer bus i took an older one, one time and it broke down and was not comfortable at all. But they did pick you up in a van at your hotel and take you to swagmans to depart in angeles.

The bars on fields and upper fields felt very dead. Crystal Palace, Dollhouse, Atlantis and Blue Nile put on good shows. But the rest of the small ones just seemed dead, places like caraseol, typhoon, body shop, just were loud music and dead fish on stage.

Skytracks is a nice place to go and hang out with a girl or two and pick up more if you want. I would go there with one girl and go home with 4 or 5. Also club klass was a nice little escape with live music and nice couches.

Also very few banks take debit cards that are mastercard. the best place to get cash is at the sm clark mall if you need an atm. If you have a visa card for your debit card than you are in better luck though seems like that is the main card of the banks there.

More to come including more of the details of the trip.

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HenryV
03-01-09, 22:13
I cannot.

The "weaker sex" in the A/C streets has been known to have wrecked a few vacations, and lives for that matter.

With all the gals in the bars it makes no sense to consider street pussy. Simply not worth the risk.




Surely you should amend that to read, friendly MALE natives, Bill :D.

Is there any bunch of lowlife scum anywhere that can equal the Angeles tricie drivers? They make the Pattaya Baht Bus drivers appear like a bunch of choirboys in comparison.

HenryV
03-01-09, 22:21
Here is one from my last trip:

"my sister is going to the U.S. to study, can you please come over my house and teach her a few words of english."

As for the trike drivers, walk, its good exercise. It also makes you drink more beer, the buzz then reminds you your on vacation.



Also, watch out for:
---> "the hotel sent me to pick you up"
---> "Hey, remember me?"
---> "My friend, how are you?"

They're going to act like your best friend so Billpsu's advise is appropriate.

Never ride a trike next to Johnny's Supermarket. These trikes are notorious.

Patterson
03-03-09, 16:27
Annoying Cherry girls excuse my ignorance are these virgins ?

Could anybody clarify please why annoying and anything else i may need to know before i go in May


Thanks

Blackangst
03-03-09, 17:32
Annoying Cherry girls excuse my ignorance are these virgins ?

Could anybody clarify please why annoying and anything else i may need to know before i go in May


Thanks

yes, virgin. They will have a V on their card and will tell you if you ask. I dont find them annoying, but to each their own. As far as everything else goes, read the forum :) It will answer all your questions.

Sammon
03-03-09, 23:00
1. They are supposed to be certified virgins by the Doctor.
Are they true virgins? Never did any in AC so I do not know.
Koreans and Japanese are the people who want virgins and willing to
pay lot of money.
2. They are annoying in the sense they want to make money by lady drinks and they do not volunteer the info that they do not want to be barfined.
Some will agree to the barfine. I have barfined them few times. Experiences range from nice eye candy, total GFE without sex, BBBJ , sex on the V without total insertion.
There were a few times I could have taken advantage of their being drunk and extremely horny but I am not the type. They depend on the big money by selling their virginity.
3. Barfining a nice, young , good looking cherry girl is fun if you want to take a break from sex. Best thing is to have a virgin and her friend who you can fuck.
4. If you want to avoid them ask the waitress before you invite the girl to sit with you.
5. If you are interested in paying for their cherry the going rate is anywhere from 20,000- 100,000 pesos.
The bar does not get any money from this. They get only the barfine.

Frank4220
03-04-09, 02:16
Was in Angeles for 5 nights this past week. Managed to checkout Doll House again and for the last time.

That place is is over rated and I never saw so many obese asians in my life (granted it was day time). The only thing I like about the place and what brings me is their frozen margaritas.

Geckos. Which I commented on earlier with the "V" cherry girls if you can believe that nonsense.

It was busy and I saw several attractive girls there.

Brown Sugar. I like this bar and the girls looked good and its a fun bar.

Gilleys Roadhouse. The bar is ok with 2 for one happy hours and great free sandwiches and lumpia on wed and fridays.

Did not see too many good looking ladies there and the dancers seem half asleep. Viper Room. Use to really like this bar but its gone down hill since the old manager departed and was really dead.

Ok this time I stayed over in the Perimeter Rd area at the Lewis grande Hotel. Usually I stay at Pacific breeze.

This hotel is fantastic. The food was in my opinion some of the best I have had in Angeles.

The swimming pool is really large and the fitness center is darn good for a hotel. This was also the first time I checked out the bars in this area.

Lost in Asia. Not bad with a few lookers.

Mirrors at Clarkton Hotel. I really enjoyed our time here, some really sexy girls and nice atmosphere.

Enjoyed the buffet dinner at Clarkton for 480 pesos.

Emotions, yes the best for last! Steve and Alan run a great bar here. We spent most of our time here and this is our new favourite watering hole.

Go early as one evening by 9pm all the girls were bar fined.

Seems like more beggars than last time but other than that still enjoyable as ever.

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ThatGuy865
03-04-09, 02:42
15. If you are interested in paying for their cherry the going rate is anywhere from 20,000- 100,000 pesos.I don't know where you are getting your cherry girl prices. but I've never heard of any woman (Cherry girl or not) in the Philippines (Not even in Makati) let alone AC asking 20,000, let alone 100,000 which is a range of over $400 to over $2000.

3000 peso's is the going price for cherry girls ... all day long on Fields.

ThatGuy865
03-04-09, 02:47
5. If you are interested in paying for their cherry the going rate is anywhere from 20,000- 100,000 pesos.I don't know where you get your prices .. 20,000 to 100,000 pesos .. is over $400 to $2000. No woman in the Philippines asks for this much to bar fine .. Cherry girls included, not even in Makati.

3000 pesos is the asking price for cherry girl bar fines .. all day long on fields.

Benzedrine
03-04-09, 06:33
Guys,

It's all fun and games in AC, however, there are times when the girls that you select do not hold up their end of the bargain.

Allow me to elaborate. I stayed in Hotel Amsterdam, in the Panorama suite. It's a pretty sizable setup with hot tub living room, bar, kitchen, etc. Therefore, I decided that I needed a few girls to fill up the space.

So I set out to Golden Nile and ended up barfining 4 studly looking lesbians and 4 regular girls.

Two of the girls ended up not being totally down with the girl-on-girl action, so we decided to head down to Blue Nile to select two more girls. Total damage in Blue Nile; 2700 piso.

We stopped at 7-11 and bought some drinks, and also grabbed some food from the shiny new fields McDonalds. Total damage there; 3000 piso.

We get to the hotel, amid looks of horror from the front desk staff. Evidently the hotel only allows 4 guests at a time due to previous bad experiences, but a quick call to the manager for reassurance enables me to take the girls upstairs.

After arriving upstairs, we ate, drank and enjoyed some music for about an hour, upon which I decide to visit the toilet and run the hot tub. When I return to the girls, something did not seem right. I counted my girls again and noticed that I had two missing. Apparently the two girls had left for no apparent reason!

Fast forward to the next evening...2000 sharp, back to Blue Nile! I was at the front door at opening time, ready to kick ass and take some names. Funny thing was, I asked around who the boss was, and nobody could seem to tell me! I finally track down one mamasan that tells me that she was away for a week, and that the mamasan in question does not get in until 2100, along with the girls. I'm told to return at 2300, which gives the mamasan ample time to interview the girls and get their side of the story.

2345.....a few minutes late due to a sexcapade...I am back at Blue Nile. I talk to a large bald headed pinoy gentleman who introduces himself as the head papasan/manager on duty. I explain my story and request my 2700 pesos back. I am told that he empowers his mamasans at the lowest level possible, and that she will make a decision on whether I get my barfine back or not.

I thank the gentleman and head back downstairs to search for my mamasan. I finally track her down after 20 minutes, and ask her if she had a chance to talk to the girls. She reports that Blue Nile is a big place, so she is having some trouble finding the girls. She offers me a choice of two other girls, "easiest course of action" she says, but I decline. How am I going to enjoy two random girls, especially after what just happened?

We confront the girls after an hour. Their story was apparently that I gave them permission to leave, which obviously was a load of baloney. In my presence however, the story changes to my hotel security guard banged on my door and made the girls leave, which is a big fat lie, as I talked to the HOTEL MANAGER on the phone and got permission BEFORE I brought the girls up. Last I checked, manager outranks security guard.

At this point my eyes bug out of my head, but I keep my cool. At this point, if I had my way, i would have my two hands around that little girl's neck, but I have too much to lose, so I control myself.

I offer to take mamasan and the girls to Hotel Amsterdam to verify that the security guard did not indeed kick the girls out. Head mamasan declines, and says that the girls and myself can go and sort it out on our own. I respond with a chuckle and tell mamasan "that's like going to court and being your own prosecutor, of course you win the case!" So I demand that she sends a mamasan to witness the confrontation.

Of course we get to the hotel and the security guard basically confirms that the girls are lying. At that point the girls apologize, to which I reply "I don't want an apology, I just want my money back" Mamasan offers me a free drink. I laugh in her face. I follow them back to the bar and declare that I will not leave until I am compensated.

I am told to wait while they decide. One hour later, I lose my patience and storm up the stairs to the manager's office. I ask him what in the world is going on, because I have been waiting for an hour. He tells me I have to go back downstairs and work it out with mamasan. I tell him, ok, I'll give it one more chance because I am being ignored.

I go downstairs and chase mamasan. She dodges me and tells me I need to find papasan and work it out with him. I tell her, irritatingly, that papasan just sent me back to her, and that I do not appreciate this game of ping pong.

I tell her to come with me and the three of us will talk together to resolve this problem. She tells me to wait, to which I respond "Miss, I have been waiting for 2 hours!" It is also at this point that mamasan loses it and starts yelling in frustration and saying it is not her job.

She runs into the changing room, and does not emerge for 30 minutes. I lose my patience and find the papasan again, and this time I DEMAND that he find this lady and we resolve this NOW.

Papasan tells me that he cannot give me my money back because he has sent it to Blue Nile Group already. I tell him to give me his boss' contact info so he is relieved of the matter. He basically replies that he is afraid of the boss in so many words, but that he would rather give me 2700 piso of his own money just to shut me up.

I am then offered 1200 peso, which alledgedly is the girls' cut. I respectfully decline. At this point it is 3 am, my night is basically finished, and finally I accept 1500 peso and promise a positive review on ISG.com forum.

The verdict: In the end, I have no one to for blame myself for allowing myself to be lied to and cheated, however, the bottom line still lies in the arena of customer service. In Blue Nile there is none.

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Lenience
03-04-09, 07:47
I'm not gonna be the one to post a Report of Distinction, unless Benzedrine's experience could be an example of how to make a fool out of yourself, make life more difficult for saner punters in the future, and generally ruin a night out, all for less than $50, what a deal!

Warbucks
03-04-09, 09:19
Guys,

It's all fun and games in AC, however, there are times when the girls that you select do not hold up their end of the bargain.


Call me morbid but I love the negative side of field reports. Thanks. A lot of guys don't keep it real and tell their bad experiences along with the good....

Blink157
03-04-09, 11:16
cherry my ass, ehehehe,
anyway thatguy885, where you got that info that 3000p is asking price for cherry girls? Cherry girls can be barfined if they like and then its up to them what they do or or what not. I barfined also some cherry girls and it was allways up to them how far they go. I politely decline if they just want barhop. I dont look korean, means I dont spent money for nothing :D

3000p is for spotlight dancers in the Dollhouse group of bars like Atlantis, DH, crystal palace and Tropix. They think they more pretty. Some are, some not, some I wont even take for free :D

Allways amused if Papasan anounce their "most favourite Girl" to customers for barfine. e.g. "girl of the month" etc..It means that this girl has allready plenty of milage, in other words, she got banged and barfined every night. Well, not my cup of tea.

Nice report from the Blue nile group. If Im on holiday and I guess you are, I wouldnt waste my precious time asking 1500 pesos back, thats 30 US isnt it?
I rather would look in some other places, really enough around Angeles city.

I once did also a mistake. I hand out the barfine direct to the girl. We agreed to meet up some time laters. She didnt show up, she even didnt show up in the bar any more. I know her from before. My instinct told me, your an idiot, my little friend told me. yeah buddy, you did the right thing, givin 100% barfine to the poor girl. Well, it wasnt. I came back, made sure that everybody is a moron over there, except me. Got a free drink from them. Wish them all to hell and went to some other place for fun. Next day it was all forgotten. My mistake and I have to live with that as long as I live..joke :D

Well, thats all. Just two bars I visited two days ago along perimeter.
Thi-Hi, first bar I spot three pussycats stroling around in the bar (mamakitten plus her babies)aside from the barfinable "straypussycats" in the club.
NIce to sit and have a talk with the girls, but nothing special so I moved on.

Next spot was seadream bar. Tabled the doorgirl, cherry from Leyte. Nice conversation. She was looking for a bf who is gong to help her to pay her bills. I was looking for a one night stand. I told her she can txt me when she lost her cherry to somebody who will pay for that. I wanted sex, not a GF. Im not looking for love :D. There is also another sexy cherrygirl dancer over there. Maybe I table her next time, hopefully the "V" will be gone at her ID by that time.

Going home now. Im hungry.

Blink

X Man
03-04-09, 14:18
Another great report from Blink. Please allow me to elaborate...

Cherry girls will barfine for the usual barfine price....which varies on where you are. Some will offer hugs and kisses, and sleep with you for the night--SLEEP ONLY... and maybe bj....that is what they can give you.

If you want insertion, you will pay a far higher price.

In AC the cherry girls are often the best looking and I suspect the bar owners hope to turn them eventually. Duh.... ....someone has to do it. My advice is to stay away from cherry...

Telling this story to friends, I get the reaction, "YOU FUKWIT, NO VIRGINS WORK IN BAR...".

And so it is....X



cherry my ass, ehehehe,
anyway thatguy885, where you got that info that 3000p is asking price for cherry girls? Cherry girls can be barfined if they like and then its up to them what they do or or what not. I barfined also some cherry girls and it was allways up to them how far they go. I politely decline if they just want barhop. I dont look korean, means I dont spent money for nothing :D

3000p is for spotlight dancers in the Dollhouse group of bars like Atlantis, DH, crystal palace and Tropix. They think they more pretty. Some are, some not, some I wont even take for free :D

Allways amused if Papasan anounce their "most favourite Girl" to customers for barfine. e.g. "girl of the month" etc..It means that this girl has allready plenty of milage, in other words, she got banged and barfined every night. Well, not my cup of tea.

Nice report from the Blue nile group. If Im on holiday and I guess you are, I wouldnt waste my precious time asking 1500 pesos back, thats 30 US isnt it?
I rather would look in some other places, really enough around Angeles city.

I once did also a mistake. I hand out the barfine direct to the girl. We agreed to meet up some time laters. She didnt show up, she even didnt show up in the bar any more. I know her from before. My instinct told me, your an idiot, my little friend told me. yeah buddy, you did the right thing, givin 100% barfine to the poor girl. Well, it wasnt. I came back, made sure that everybody is a moron over there, except me. Got a free drink from them. Wish them all to hell and went to some other place for fun. Next day it was all forgotten. My mistake and I have to live with that as long as I live..joke :D

Well, thats all. Just two bars I visited two days ago along perimeter.
Thi-Hi, first bar I spot three pussycats stroling around in the bar (mamakitten plus her babies)aside from the barfinable "straypussycats" in the club.
NIce to sit and have a talk with the girls, but nothing special so I moved on.

Next spot was seadream bar. Tabled the doorgirl, cherry from Leyte. Nice conversation. She was looking for a bf who is gong to help her to pay her bills. I was looking for a one night stand. I told her she can txt me when she lost her cherry to somebody who will pay for that. I wanted sex, not a GF. Im not looking for love :D. There is also another sexy cherrygirl dancer over there. Maybe I table her next time, hopefully the "V" will be gone at her ID by that time.

Going home now. Im hungry.

Blink

Sammon
03-04-09, 14:39
That guy,
Where do you get the idea that you can have the cherry from the girl for 3000 pesos?
3000 pesos is the barfine amount for spotlight dancers in many places.
Cherry girls who are not spotlight dancers can be barfined at regular rate which is 1300 pesos.
But to take their cherry it is 20,000 pesos - 100,000 pesos.
The girl will hold out for the highest bidder depending on her age, her desperation to make quick money, her looks, input from the mamasan etc.
One time I was a witness for this cherry negotiations. I was sitting right next to this guy from Malaysia. I knew the mamasan who was advicing the girl. The girl was not a stunner by any means. Negotiations took almost an hour back and forth. Starting demand was 80,000 pesos. Final offer came to 40,000 pesos. No amount of free drinks will alter his price. Finally he walked off to look for more cherry prospects I suppose.
After this the mamasan came and sat with me. Pretty soon the girl also came and sat with us. The girl was literally in tears telling mamasan she should have taken 40,000 pesos. The mamasan comforted her saying the min price should be 50,000 pesos and she will get somebody. The girl was only 19 years old , so i guess it made sense to wait.

Benzedrine
03-04-09, 18:53
Call me morbid but I love the negative side of field reports. Thanks. A lot of guys don't keep it real and tell their bad experiences along with the good....Don't get me wrong guys, I have tons of good experiences, and I have posted in the past nothing but good. Sometimes though, things happen. I'd just like to make sure you guys remember to always stay ahead of the game, because these bars and girls are pretty much only out to make money. Please don't lose sight of that fact.

Angeles City is fun, just keep reality in the back of your mind, don't be naive.

ThatGuy865
03-05-09, 01:30
Sammon

I have BF a cherry girl before and have friends who have also BF cherry girls. I paid the usual BF price for the one I took, we did the Jolibee run and to my room for a BBBJ. My buddy on the other hand Busted his cherry girl and didn't Pay any extra, gave her a 500 peso tip and sent her ass home. I barfined my cherry girl again cause the BBBJ was one of the best I had during that trip. By the time the 2 weeks was up she was ready to give me the cherry. For the price of the barfine. But with it being the end of my trip and her being so nice I couldn't bring myself to bust it out and leave her hanging. She was looking for a sponsor and I wasn't going to go that route, so I didn't want to shoplift the pootane.

I stated 3000 because that is the highest BF on fields so that would be the highest you should pay for a cherry girl. Now whether you get the pussy is another story. But you can get them out and to your room. Without paying extra. Now if you can't close the deal without paying more. Well thats a personal issue.

Now if the Cherry girl and mamasan haggled that kind of price you speak of 40, 000. They must not really wanted the girl to be bar fined. That is NOT the usual asking price for a babes cherry.

I've been going to AC every year since 93. Longest stay was 6 mths and have never heard of a mamasan/papasan or girl ever asking such a ridiculous price. Shit the police scams a lot of times don't cost that much.

Carmex
03-05-09, 02:47
Guys,

It's all fun and games in AC, however, there are times when the girls that you select do not hold up their end of the bargain.

I am then offered 1200 peso, which alledgedly is the girls' cut. I respectfully decline. At this point it is 3 am, my night is basically finished, and finally I accept 1500 peso and promise a positive review on ISG.com forum.

The verdict: In the end, I have no one to for blame myself for allowing myself to be lied to and cheated, however, the bottom line still lies in the arena of customer service. In Blue Nile there is none.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Had the same thing happen to my buddy last time in AC. He was on big baller status, as he was getting married (I know, WTF?) to his USA gf in a few months.

BF 4 girls from Blue Nile. Ended up only pounding one girl and the other three watched TV and talked on the phone. Eventually, my other buddy went over to his room and did one girl. Then they got up and left when the contract for the four was for LT. He told me he didn't really care at that point and just wanted to get rid of them. He is not a seasoned monger, and only been to AC once before, but the first time he was in AC he described it as an Adult Disneyland.

You know, this did not bother them that much, and we did not go to get the money back. Basically they just put it behind them and wanted to try some different bars (perimeter).

I personally believe it is about prinicple and not actual money. But I am just too lazy to go back and argue over $30USD as it seems to go nowhere. This is of course what the girls expect, and by allowing it I agree I am only reinforcing the behavior. The principle in his case was that the girls were all over him in the bar, asking him to BF them, all promising good time, etc. Then in the room, he told me their attitudes changed within seconds.

I do admire Benzedrine's tenacity though, and wish I had some of it. Whether it be BG/SW/FL or escorts, I usually just say "win some, lose some", but sometimes that is a bitter pill to swallow. Positive report on ISG, sheesh, who are they kiddin?

Good calling out though, and yes, we do need to post the bad with the good.

X Man
03-05-09, 04:31
Ha, ha, poor girl was probably horny as hell. It must have been tough to see all her co-workers rolling in the cash, having wild sex, trips to Borocay, etc...


After this the mamasan came and sat with me. Pretty soon the girl also came and sat with us. The girl was literally in tears telling mamasan she should have taken 40,000 pesos. The mamasan comforted her saying the min price should be 50,000 pesos and she will get somebody. The girl was only 19 years old , so i guess it made sense to wait.

ThatGuy865
03-05-09, 05:11
First off, guys are foolish to take that many women to their rooms. Especially with girls that the guy has never been with before. Thats a rookie move and the babes know it. With that many girls they know its impossible for a guy to keep up with all of them. They are not going to have an orgy. So they know a couple of them are getting ez money cause they arent going to do anything except get fed, drink, watch some TV and then break out on the guy.

These guys try to look like big time ballers and the babes just laugh and take advantage of the situation. Live an learn.

Manfest
03-05-09, 22:14
Guys,

It's all fun and games in AC, however, there are times when the girls that you select do not hold up their end of the bargain.

--cut--

I am told to wait while they decide. One hour later, I lose my patience and storm up the stairs to the manager's office. I ask him what in the world is going on, because I have been waiting for an hour. He tells me I have to go back downstairs and work it out with mamasan. I tell him, ok, I'll give it one more chance because I am being ignored.

I go downstairs and chase mamasan. She dodges me and tells me I need to find papasan and work it out with him. I tell her, irritatingly, that papasan just sent me back to her, and that I do not appreciate this game of ping pong.

I tell her to come with me and the three of us will talk together to resolve this problem. She tells me to wait, to which I respond "Miss, I have been waiting for 2 hours!" It is also at this point that mamasan loses it and starts yelling in frustration and saying it is not her job.

She runs into the changing room, and does not emerge for 30 minutes. I lose my patience and find the papasan again, and this time I DEMAND that he find this lady and we resolve this NOW.

Papasan tells me that he cannot give me my money back because he has sent it to Blue Nile Group already. I tell him to give me his boss' contact info so he is relieved of the matter. He basically replies that he is afraid of the boss in so many words, but that he would rather give me 2700 piso of his own money just to shut me up.

I am then offered 1200 peso, which alledgedly is the girls' cut. I respectfully decline. At this point it is 3 am, my night is basically finished, and finally I accept 1500 peso and promise a positive review on ISG.com forum.

The verdict: In the end, I have no one to for blame myself for allowing myself to be lied to and cheated, however, the bottom line still lies in the arena of customer service. In Blue Nile there is none.

Benzedrine,

Sorry to hear your story, but good for you. I agree with many posters that it isn't much money, but you stuck with it. If we all had that much tenacity, energy and time to complain and fight for our rights, then this kind of crap would stop (or at least slow) happening. Cheers.

M

Robbaf
03-05-09, 22:19
Gunmen on motorcycle kill American

ANGELES CITY -- Two motorcycle-riding men shot an American national in Barangay Malabanias before dawn on Thursday.
Chief Inspector Ronaldo Lorenzo, commander of Police Station 4, identified the victim as Jerry Melton, 51, a tourist.

Witnesses told investigators the American was shot by men on board a blue motorcycle at a vacant lot between Euro-Asia Hotel and Lewis Grand Hotel.
Although suffering from a bullet wound on the chest, the victim was able to walk to a nearby hotel and seek assistance there. He was rushed to Angeles University Foundation Medical Center but doctors pronounced him dead on arrival.

The motive for the killing was not immediately established.

The still unidentified assailants, who fled towards Friendship Highway, did not take the victim’s wallet and valuables.
Last week, the barangay chief of Pulung Maragul village was gunned down near a makeshift carnival here by a still unidentified assailant.
Mayor Francis Nepomuceno, city councilors, and barangay captains urged the local police to intensify their campaign against criminals.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/pampanga/gunmen-...e-kill-american

Azmodeus Fl
03-06-09, 21:17
OK Guys, remember that the girls in the bars are possible third or forth generation. They are there to make money. They are in most cases not the bring home to mother. It's nothing more than a game. She ask for one price you offer what you want to pay. if she won't take the offer someone else will. Don't allow them to set the prices or you will get ripped off. Now don't get me wrong there are some of the girls are different but those are the exception to the rules. Keep in mind that you are there for fun not looking for a wife.

Darth Sushi
03-07-09, 01:13
Nudity is against the law so you are not going to find a "live/nude" sign on a bar. Smaller bars will close their doors for a private show if you spend enough money. When you start seeing fliers with private shows for a fee, that's a good sign. Many bar raids are based on nudity violations. If you really want live nude, try joining the SOB initiation but that's only via invitation, which usually happens about once a month. Cheap Charlies always have a hard time finding nude shows :D

Acfreddie
03-08-09, 02:48
Emotions (about 3:45)

P105 ladies drinks (just increased from P100 somewhere around later part of the month of February)
Red Bull @ P80
Local customer drinks @ P65

It was the pool league day when we visited so the bar was rather crowded with pool players, (most of who were there for cheap drinks and playing with their pool league). We were still able to find a seat. Did notice that for a fair amount of the time the girls were/would be on stage that many of the girls would stand there like a statue with their arms crossed. I guessed they were just bored and possibly that given the pool players were crowding the bar and not paying much attention to the girls on the stage so I would give them the benefit of the doubt and stay for a complete drink and see if things improved. Scouted around for available talent, fixated on one of the girls that fit out likes and started to have a conversation with her, our question was basically if she was a wild girl, her reply was “why you give a big tip”, I was flabbergasted at the direct nature of the girls reply (had a hallucination that I was in Thailand for a minute there), but came back to reality when the girl repeated her answer a 2nd time and found myself in ac and inside of Emotions bar. I had previously encountered this in Fields ave bars (Doll House, Blue Nile, ect), but never before in a perimeter road bar and before anyone asks, there was no way I misinterpreted her answer, she was dead serious. The conversation ended after I laughed out load at her reply. There were a couple of other girls that peaked our interest, but that girl’s response totally turned off any desire to continue hunting inside this bar, so we paid our bills and left. I should point out that the manager did come around with offerings of the house shooter (Black Russian) at some point during our time at Emotions bar.


Eruptions (about 4:30pm)

Draft beer – SMB @ P40 and SML @ P50
Gatorade @ P85
Imported @ 140
Local @ P60

While we were here, ran into a one girl who use to work at the Body Shop while I was doing the relief managing there. She use to be a cherry girl, but had lost her cherry about 6-7 weeks ago. The terrorist was inquisitive and asked her to she would go barfine with us or not. The girl declined our offer for the reason that she “respected daddy”, while this is understandable to me, if for sure was our loss. I knew that somehow doing a relief managing stint would bite me in the ass sometime in the future and sure enough this was the time. We continued to hunt/look and found another potential girl in Eruptions. We asked her if she wanted to go out for the night on barfine and to my shocking surprise, the girl replied that “I [she] does not barfine, only ladies drinks”. WTF! Can you that this bar employs at least one drink ****. I was not impressed at all with her response and needless to say we did not bother to inquire about other girls there as that answer was specific enough to give me the impression that there were highly likely others who were on the same program, not to mention that there were no others that the terrorist and I were interested in.

KOD (King of Diamonds (5:15pm)

2-4-1 happy hour 3pm til 6pm (includes imported drinks) and P125 ladies drinks
6pm til 12am – local drinks @P60 (no specials on imported drinks), imported drinks P155
Finally this bar has come around to lowering their prices to a realistic 3rd world country price. The terrorist and I struck out twice here, the first girl we were interested in had a bf/husband and would only do ST (because he waits for her after work), while ST is not a problem to us, it was the fact of knowing that she had someone there waiting for her. Was better off not knowing that info, but it is the way it is and we took a pass. The second girls (a real hottie) does not go with couples and is not into girls.

Voodoo (6:15pm)

The most alive bar on this hop to this point. The girls were very active on the stage and also customer interactive. My local drinks were P77 with my board member discount. I was hoping to see that they would have followed suit with specials like their sister bar KOD, but they have/had not. While the atmosphere was great and we enjoyed ourselves in Voodoo, we did not find anything to suit our desires.

Lollipop (7pm)

Imported drinks @ P155 (P140 with my board member discount)
Ladies drinks @ P150
Another very alive atmosphere bar was found here. The 2nd bar in a row, the kind of streak that the terrorist and I were unable to find on perimeter road earlier. There were nearly a handful of girls that we were interested in, focused our attention to one specific girl, called her down and chatted with her for awhile. She was certainly one that we will remember and will plan to go back for another night.

Headed over to Kokomos to eat

A large group of hashers had taken over the place, so service was extremely slow, slower than the usual slow that one (I) usually find.

Rhapsody (9pm)

The very alive bar streak continued in Rhapsody. Never would have thought the streak was going to continue, but Rhapsody came through. The same hasher group was in Rhapsody that we saw in Kokomo’s, but there was still room to find a seat. Saw a few available girls that fit into the profile that we concentrate on. Called one of the prospects over and got her a ladies drink. Had a great conversation with her and she was placed on our list for girls to come back and take out at a later date. I cannot remember how much the cost for drinks were here, but I do remember that they offer a board members discount

Summary of the bar hop

I was shocked to find that at perimeter road bars the girls had attitudes that were previously non existent and that it seems as though the perimeter bars are under going some sort of conversion where at least some of the girls now carry the attitude of the fields ave bargirls and that is NOT a good thing. It seems as though that the Fields ave bars have been weeding out their line ups to get rid of the girls that are well shall we say less adorable to a bar owner/manager (Read those who cause conflicts and have stuck up attitudes) and since the girls were let go or left their, they have seemingly taken up employment at some of the Perimeter road bars (such as Emotions and Eruptions).

I was shocked for the 2nd time on this hop to find that (at many of the bars I visited) on Fields ave bars (such as lollipop and Rhapsody) and their girls were more pleasant, respectful and carried a fraction and in many cases none of the previous field’s ave bargirl attitude. Why did this happen, I am sure there are some formulations that would prove feasible and even one or two to directly link them together, but what I am in shock about it that with pricing set aside (and I should point out that now with many of the specials that Fields ave bars are currently available the pricing differential at the bars that I visited have been greatly reduced and in some cases are a better deal than Perimeter road) is that during this hop and others that we have taken in the last week is that Fields ave bars are where the Terrorist and I have been finding the best bets for finding girls without bad/negative attitudes. Certainly our scrutiny as to which Fields bars we would visit played a large part in assisting us enjoy our hop, but the fact remains that the bars on fields ave overall fared much better for us lately and because of the outcome from those bar hops, I have temporarily converted to be a fields ave bar hopper (still excluding certain bars with bad reputations).

Ekspat
03-08-09, 05:06
BTW, about this money changer........
Had to change some $ yesterday and checked the rates,
even went down the road to Norma. I would have got 48.45ps there.
Somewhere at the main road I got 48.50ps.

So, whats so "famous" with this often recommended money changer?

Cheers!

ThatGuy865
03-08-09, 05:36
BTW, about this money changer.

Had to change some $ yesterday and checked the rates, even went down the road to Norma. I would have got 48. 45ps there. Somewhere at the main road I got 48. 50ps.

So, whats so "famous" with this often recommended money changer?

Cheers! Well its a reputation from way back before there were as many places as now. It was basically Normas or the Money changers that run up and down along side of Margarita.

Bob Down
03-08-09, 11:19
Nudity is against the law so you are not going to find a "live/nude" sign on a bar. Smaller bars will close their doors for a private show if you spend enough money. When you start seeing fliers with private shows for a fee, that's a good sign. Many bar raids are based on nudity violations. If you really want live nude, try joining the SOB initiation but that's only via invitation, which usually happens about once a month. Cheap Charlies always have a hard time finding nude shows :DJust because there is no "live/nude" sign outside the bar doesn't mean it can not be found, it is just a case of right place at right time.

Kidgib9
03-08-09, 16:49
I was shocked to find that at perimeter road bars the girls had attitudes that were previously non existent and that it seems as though the perimeter bars are under going some sort of conversion where at least some of the girls now carry the attitude of the fields ave bargirls and that is NOT a good thing. It seems as though that the Fields ave bars have been weeding out their line ups to get rid of the girls that are well shall we say less adorable to a bar owner/manager (Read those who cause conflicts and have stuck up attitudes) and since the girls were let go or left their, they have seemingly taken up employment at some of the Perimeter road bars (such as Emotions and Eruptions).Thanks for the report Acfreddie,

I live in AC and I have noticed this same behavior pattern. One used to be able to hang out on perimeter and have loads of fun with the girls because the attitude was not there. Well, not anymore because now they want a tip just for dancing! Tell me if I'm wrong but I put most of the blame on the managers. If the girls are dancing and having fun then customers stay and buy drinks. If the girls are just holding the walls up looking dead we of course leave. Some managers realize this but most don't, they just let them be. I guess they are relying on the two week millionairs who don't care about such things.

Ciao,

Kid

Darth Sushi
03-09-09, 00:45
Just because there is no "live/nude" sign outside the bar doesn't mean it can not be found, it is just a case of right place at right time. Never said it can't be found (hence the SOB club reference). It's usually cloak and dagger and under the table because it is illegal. When too many bars allow it, this is when the police raids start increasing.

Rubberyman
03-09-09, 01:06
Hi Kidgib9 and ACFreddie,

I am one of those that come and go from AC.

I do sympathise with locals there who rightly get annoyed with the two week millionaires if they come in and overspend. However, it normally takes until I have actually been in the bar and bought a drink or two before I can work it out. (Some bars are obvious at a glance, but others are not).

Of course by that time they have some of my $$ and therefore why should they care - or improve their service.

The only way to have any hope of keeping this from taking over is to name and shame the bars on forums like this.

Once a bar gets a bad rep, and its takings go down, then it may make the effort to improve.

So if locals will put in the effort to 'out' those bad attitude bars by naming them in these pages, I will be happy to avoid pissing in the pool by overpaying or patronising crappy bars. Everyone is a winner then.

ThatGuy865
03-09-09, 02:10
The only way to have any hope of keeping this from taking over is to name and shame the bars on forums like this.

Once a bar gets a bad rep, and its takings go down, then it may make the effort to improve.

So if locals will put in the effort to 'out' those bad attitude bars by naming them in these pages, I will be happy to avoid pissing in the pool by overpaying or patronising crappy bars. Everyone is a winner then.The only problem with that is. No bar is consistingly good or bad. An each person has their own perception of what good or bad is. It usually on takes 1 or 2 girls to make a guy have a good time in a bar. While that guy may say the bar is great. Two tables over from him a guy is getting bad service, being ignored and because he has a rookie waitress is overcharged for 1 beer. Now these two guys are in the same bar. But you'll get two different reviews when asked. So no matter what people say about a bar its always worth checking out for yourself.

Amavida
03-09-09, 02:31
Thanks for the report Acfreddie,

I live in AC and I have noticed this same behavior pattern. One used to be able to hang out on perimeter and have loads of fun with the girls because the attitude was not there. Well, not anymore because now they want a tip just for dancing! Tell me if I'm wrong but I put most of the blame on the managers. If the girls are dancing and having fun then customers stay and buy drinks. If the girls are just holding the walls up looking dead we of course leave. Some managers realize this but most don't, they just let them be. I guess they are relying on the two week millionairs who don't care about such things.

Ciao,

KidAC Bars & Hotels survive & prosper BECAUSE of the 'two week millionaires'. Its the whole reason the place exists at all.

Its still the best value for money & most prolific supplier of promiscuous commercial sex in the PI. (And of course the dirty little secret that most of us won't mention is most of the girls in AC bareback routinely)

There are PLENTY of other places to get sexual relief in this country. Don't sweat it. When people start visiting so often that they start complaining they should realise its time to get out of the rut.

Dont forget, here in PI nothing ever stays the same. The bars close & new ones open, the girls come & go. There used to be a lot of whingeing about the Japanese big spenders then the Koreans started arriving in numbers & spending up. Different nationalities predominate from time to time.

As much as I LOVE to visit AC & go hog wild with the ladies, I do limit my self so that I don't get jaded.

Hope nobody get offended by this little rant.
Just casting my 2pesos into the conversation.

Cheers & happy hunting!
AV

Amavida
03-09-09, 02:40
Checking my passport, I saw that I traveled to AC seven times in the last 12 months... Maybe I have AC overload and need a break.With the greatest respect to a fellow monger, yes, you need to give AC a rest & visit other places, meet new people.

The little things that seemed like a big deal will soon fade & seem inconsequential. The reason we 'get away from it all' is why people come. If find yourself 'bringing it all with you', its time to go do something new.

We are soooo bloody lucky we have the financial & political freedom to go where we please & do what we want! Never forget that!

AV

Amavida
03-09-09, 04:02
Guys,

It's all fun and games in AC, however, there are times when the girls that you select do not hold up their end of the bargain.

I cant resist commenting on this long very entertaining tale of how NOT to have a good time in AC :)

Everything you describe is CLASSICAL Pinoy behavior!

Doesn't make it right, but you are in THEIR world when you're here. There is no point in getting hypertensive about their behavior, it is what it is. They have a very laid back attitude in this country. Its great when its in our favor but when that attitude goes against us just chill out & focus on the next thing.

Instead of going to bars & cold bloodedly choosing women like a meat market & giving them a job interview, a behavior that goes against their fantasy of being human beings... I cruise around and see what chicks come on to me. If I dont like them I don't engage them. If I like I like them I either get their number for later or go see the mamasan & seal the deal.

These girls lose face when you haggle the price down (but obviously know your prices before you go in) and they (and everybody else in ear shot) lose face even worse when you make a runkus later.

I've never had a runner so I cant understand why people have this problem. I guess it boils down to 'make sure the girl like you before you go off with her'. This is not Thaliand. The 'GF' experience is famous here. The flip side is dont treat them like hookers & they won't treat you like a 'John'.

Its a funny old place, but you'll get the hang of it! ;)

AV

Poopbunny
03-09-09, 04:07
Gunmen on motorcycle kill American

ANGELES CITY -- Two motorcycle-riding men shot an American national in Barangay Malabanias before dawn on Thursday.
Chief Inspector Ronaldo Lorenzo, commander of Police Station 4, identified the victim as Jerry Melton, 51, a tourist.

Witnesses told investigators the American was shot by men on board a blue motorcycle at a vacant lot between Euro-Asia Hotel and Lewis Grand Hotel.
Although suffering from a bullet wound on the chest, the victim was able to walk to a nearby hotel and seek assistance there. He was rushed to Angeles University Foundation Medical Center but doctors pronounced him dead on arrival.

The motive for the killing was not immediately established.

The still unidentified assailants, who fled towards Friendship Highway, did not take the victim’s wallet and valuables.
Last week, the barangay chief of Pulung Maragul village was gunned down near a makeshift carnival here by a still unidentified assailant.
Mayor Francis Nepomuceno, city councilors, and barangay captains urged the local police to intensify their campaign against criminals.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/pampanga/gunmen-...e-kill-american

Here is some additional info speaking with driver from Lewis Grand. It was actually him who rushed the poor American to the hospital. He was sad he could not be saved despite their efforts and him driving down Perimeter at one point nearly 160km/h. This was possible as the event occurred at about 4am in the morning and traffic was light. The security at the Lewis Grand hotel was also alerted by the presence of a girl, they reckon it was his barfine (BF) who later disappeared. They suspect the perpetrator was a jealous boyfriend of his BF fueled by drugs. The driver said he saw lacerations on his hands, consistent with a confrontation and the fatal American trying to defend himself, not a drive by shooting as the report suggests. The American was not a guest at Lewis Grand. As a tourist is killed, the NBI is now involved as they have no tolerance for crimes against tourist.

Amavida
03-09-09, 04:33
People say there are no cherry girls in bars & basically that is true.

In my experience the girls with the big red 'V' and the big price tag are NOT virgins, just part of what the the bar offers in the hope of making a buck.

I've had a lot of girls here in this country P4P & non. In my experience very VERY few of the girls who enter the P4P bar scene are virgins. Even if she is a virgin, a girls virginity is a private thing between her & the john. Its not something she advertises. The vast majority of girls in P4P have already been burned by a pinoy BF or two (usual) or even a traveling monger (sometimes).

When a girl says she is cherry it really means she (in order of likelihood) :

a) Does not like you. (and does not want to lose face saying so)
b) Menstruating.
c) Has an (untreated) STD which makes it painful for her to have sex.
d) Has an emotional attachment to another guy (sponsor).
e) Although not a 'virgin' by any stretch of the imagination, is new to the P4P scene & has not performed sex for money with a John (yet).

I don't get the fascination with paying to hurt a woman?
If she really IS a virgin, it is not going to be a pleasant experience for her to have sex with a total stranger for money on an emotional, social or physical level the first time.

I have had GF's who were virgins.. some take to it like a duck to water after their first pop but most take a lot of time & patience to get to liking it.

AV

Ekspat
03-09-09, 05:00
Mates, it's so damn hot here during the day... :(

So many girls, so little time....:(

Got sort of robbed, and lost all my protein and precious DNA..... :(
Happened many times so far!!

8'x8' sqft bed is too small for me and 3 girls... :(
but me and 2 girls it's perfect

Haven't had a runner so far... :(

Will go for a 3kps superstar of Atlantis today.
Life can be tough, di ba?
But someone's gotta do it!

Cheers!

Mr Big Johnson
03-09-09, 19:11
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! please dont lump us all in with X-Man!
This guy contributes worth while info from time to time but spends A LOT of time on these forums attention seeking (as you noticed) and nit picking to death a few select people.I have to say after reading your response I was intrigued , as either the guy has good info or he does not. It did more seem to me to be creative writing with the intent to discredit his posts for whatever reason after reading his posts. I did take the time to read back more than several pages during my lunch, and found that indeed his posts are factual and I have been going to AC for over 20 years. I remember when it used to be fun

What it appears is that his posts are often taken out of context and turned into a negative, when in fact they are very informative as you had even said was the case, why then would they not be of value to other men. I will not speculate that it is bar owners trying to louse up another good board, but will say that selling losing bars has long been the means of income for the owners there and this has been going on long before the internet ever existed. I certainly think they may take more than a look at these sites from time to time IMHO.

Either way as for AC, would I go again? Well if it were on the way or on a layover I may take the time to go there, but honestly it is really discouraging to have to weed through the stories and drink hustles to try and find one girl to have sex in a bar. It used to be much different, but now I would much rather stay in Manila and just do a LA CAFÉ or EDSA run.

The world is much to small to only go to one place and I do agree that anyone saying that AC is the best place you can go just has not traveled to other places.

Surfer
03-09-09, 20:47
Catching up on this thread after a long absence and came upon this doosie:

"I would much rather go to some place in Manila, Quezon, or elsewhere, as now with the price increases you can bargain in places like EDSA and hook up with cell phone and pay much less than going to AC, and you don't have to be there only on a certain day to find a place to have fun. "

You USED to be able to bargain on bf at EDSA if they knew you but the 1400 is pretty firm nowadays even for regulars, then the girl will want the same amount. So you are out 2800 and still need to rent a room give a tip etc, yet on Santos Street (Blow Row) in Balibago you can still find very nice ST girls for 700 TOTAL including use of room.

So where in Quezon or Manila can you get a better deal than that? You seem to say quite frequently how lousy Angeles is nowadays, enough that your views are well known here, so how about sharing the info on all the better places you have found so everybody else quits wasting time in Angeles!

And you have taken an obscure figure few (including me) had ever heard of, Dave Fisher, and made him a household name with all your rants blaming him for single handedly ruining Angeles. They say there is no such thing as bad publicity, so you are helping him promote his business by talking about him all the time.

Also, the murder of the American by Lewis Grand Hotel is concerning, but it is quite a stretch to argue that stretch between LGH and Garfield's is so dangerous locals only walk it at night when armed is quite the hyperbole. "Taxis" may be hard to get in the evening on Perimeter LOL, but there are still jeeps and a trike is never more than a few moments walk away.

On a brighter note, Amavida has been making some excellent posts for which I commend him.

Rubberyman
03-10-09, 01:04
The only problem with that is. No bar is consistingly good or bad. An each person has their own perception of what good or bad is. It usually on takes 1 or 2 girls to make a guy have a good time in a bar. While that guy may say the bar is great. Two tables over from him a guy is getting bad service, being ignored and because he has a rookie waitress is overcharged for 1 beer. Now these two guys are in the same bar. But you'll get two different reviews when asked. So no matter what people say about a bar its always worth checking out for yourself.

Hi Thatguy,

What I was getting at needs to be looked at in context of the comments of the previous posters.

There were two themes:

First, people who had been to AC many times before were reporting bad habits creeping in to some establishments - and they had not experienced those bad habits before. ie it is nothing to do with this guy and that guy as you are saying - it is everything to do with the same guy noticing negative changese. I would also say that while there are those who are not that bright and so therefore cannot make a judgement for the reasons you outline, I think you do the majority here a disservice. Most of us CAN read between the lines, sort out the nonsense reports from obvious nutty posters, and the good gear from regular reporters.

The other theme was that from the local who referred to the two week millionaires. All I was trying to point out is that if enough locals write in with info about bad bars (I can understand if they want to keep the good ones for themselves), then some of us two week millionaires will have a better time, and also help the locals by making sure that the crappy bars get less money. As another poster pointed out, the two week millionaires, by their sheer weight of numbers make AC possible. So educating those TWM's and steering them away from crappy bars helps everybody in the town.

Of course it often boils down to a matter of opinion, but as I said before, there are enough of us who actually can sort out the nutty posters and bar owner posters that would value the information. eg if I got three or four reliable posters saying that XYZ bar had ladies demanding a tip up front, that would be enough for me that I would not put a piso into their till.

PS Ekspat - I hate you. Reason: you are in AC, and I am not. Grrrr!


*Eleven days to 'wheels down' in Clark Field.*

X Man
03-10-09, 01:58
I've basically ignored this guy for a year, but he still attacks from time to time. I guess I might have hurt his feelings at some point.

He's claims that I'm on his ignore list, so I guess I don't have to worry about him responding to this message. Happy day!

X Man



Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! please dont lump us all in with X-Man!
This guy contributes worth while info from time to time but spends A LOT of time on these forums attention seeking (as you noticed) and nit picking to death a few select people.

AV

ThatGuy865
03-10-09, 03:35
Rubber man,

I understand what you are saying, but from my perspective. I have many expat friends in AC but would not use any recommendations about bars without checking it out for myself. Most expats are what I would call cheap, they live there, and can take their time to hunt down a woman.

Being there for 2 weeks we have more money to spend. I don't mind buying Ladies Drinks, even for those I have no intention of BF. Sometimes I just want the silly attention they supply. So for someone to tell me they were turned off by women asking for drinks well thats their problem as far as I'm concerned.

Until they say the bar has girls stealing from you (I. E pickpockets), drugging your drinks, or running underage scams. Now those are legitimate reasons to stay away. Other than those I would probably have to check it out for my self. I take enough to accomodate LDs into my budget.

Some guys like to stay at the Lewis Grand, or ABC hotels spending stateside prices for a room. I prefer to stay in more modest accomodations and spend my money having fun with the women. I've been to AC for over 15 years and cannot name a single bar that I have considered off limits. One trip it may be lousy with ugly girls the next its loaded with just what I like. The atmosphere changes in these bars almost from day to day.

Go ahead and stay away from as many you like. That will just leave me with a bar load of women to choose from. I thank you now in advance. And please let me those bars so I"ll be sure to check them out.

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ThatGuy865
03-10-09, 06:21
Ekspat. You're wrong

6 billion pesos is more like $131 million USD.

And yes they do have a big shabu problem in the PI. Alot of the girls in AC use Shabu. Its been a problem since the late 90's and only getting worst.

Anyone would know anywhere there are a lot of young people with low self esteem, working in a decadent profession by society standards, with money to spare is a breeding ground for drug use.

Rubberyman
03-10-09, 08:22
Rubber man,

I understand what you are saying, but from my perspective.



Um, you didn't really read what I said.


Rubber man,

Being there for 2 weeks we have more money to spend. I don't mind buying Ladies Drinks, even for those I have no intention of BF. Sometimes I just want the silly attention they supply. So for someone to tell me they were turned off by women asking for drinks well thats their problem as far as I'm concerned.



...because I never mentioned buying LDs nor did those posters I referred to before and was what I was talking about. I am similar to you in that I don't have a problem with LDs..who does? Indeed it is their problem as you say. Not what my posts nor the previous posters were talking about.


Rubber man,


Some guys like to stay at the Lewis Grand, or ABC hotels spending stateside prices for a room. I prefer to stay in more modest accomodations and spend my money having fun with the women. I've been to AC for over 15 years and cannot name a single bar that I have considered off limits. One trip it may be lousy with ugly girls the next its loaded with just what I like. The atmosphere changes in these bars almost from day to day.



...and nor was it about types of hotels or what the women look like. We aren't actually arguing about anything really since I agree with your statements - they just have nothing at all to do with what I posted.



Rubber man,


Go ahead and stay away from as many you like. That will just leave me with a bar load of women to choose from. I thank you now in advance. And please let me those bars so I"ll be sure to check them out.



Ah...but I only go there for a couple of weeks at a time. So I almost always miss out on some bars.

So many ladies, so little time. *sigh*

Ekspat
03-10-09, 08:40
PS Ekspat - I hate you. Reason: you are in AC, and I am not. Grrrr!
*Eleven days to 'wheels down' in Clark Field.*
Seems in 11 days I'll hate you for the same reason,
while being back in my office. :D

Cheers!

ThatGuy865
03-10-09, 13:21
Well Rubber man.

All I can say now. Is have a good time. And in 10 days. Kiss on a nipple and say a toast to That guy cause I'll be back here "grinding it out".

Have Fun dude. Peace out

That guy

X Man
03-10-09, 14:00
Wonderful post by AV, the expert at all things AC.

"two week millionaires" is in quotes, so where does this come from?

Millionaire? Peso millionaire?

According to XE.com

one million peso is about....

... 21,000 US$
...16,000 euro
...2,000,000 yen
...31,000,000 won

Two weeks in the Philippines and I don't think I've ever spent more than $8,000 (ticket included). Even using yen, which I sometimes do, I don't come close to the two-week millionaire club.

AV, are you Korean?

X

AC Bars & Hotels survive & prosper BECAUSE of the 'two week millionaires'. Its the whole reason the place exists at all.AV

Cunning Stunt
03-11-09, 03:05
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Ekspat
03-11-09, 03:51
Ekspat. You're wrong
6 billion pesos is more like $131 million USD.

Sure. But WI said "per day".
Comes to nearly 48 Billion per year.
Right?

Anyway, I had another good night in AC! :D
Cheers!

Mr Big Johnson
03-11-09, 05:42
Also, the murder of the American by Lewis Grand Hotel is concerning, but it is quite a stretch to argue that stretch between LGH and Garfield's is so dangerous locals only walk it at night when armed is quite the hyperbole. "Taxis" may be hard to get in the evening on Perimeter LOL, but there are still jeeps and a trike is never more than a few moments walk away.I don’t have much time so just thumbing through the most recent topic on my break and this post caught my eye.

My curious posting friend, you are not seriously suggesting anyone take a jeepney after dark are you ?

Not even the locals feel safe riding in the back of a jeepney after dark , and this is not just limited to Angeles City, but throughout the Philippines, this is where local and tourist alike are almost sure to find problems. I do not think during the day it is any problem and I have never had any, but I have witnessed robbery attempts even in broad day light on the jeepneys and pick pockets are plentifull at all times.

I do not know what your experience is there or your interests, but I have to say IMHO , that is just a very irresponsible statement.

As for the rest of the post about drugs,I will not get into that much except to say it is a big problem there as it is all over the Phillipines. I remember in Cebu a few years back they trapped two police officers in a squaller and were promising to start killing cops if they arested any more shabu dealers, so it is not Disney Land as far as that subject goes either.

ThatGuy865
03-11-09, 05:51
Sure. But WI said "per day".
Comes to nearly 48 Billion per year.
Right?

Anyway, I had another good night in AC! :D

Cheers!Looking back I should have known when it was stated by WI. It was a little over the top. Yeah no way is that happening. Thats more like the USA Numbers.

Oh and tip a San Miguel for me.

X Man
03-11-09, 08:46
Gamahucher, that's the nicest thing you ever wrote about me. Do you have a fever? Are you okay?

X
You're right, I don't smell like a rose.


X is a bit like a rose - you have to put up with the prickles for the sake of the petals! Somehow doubt that he smells as good, though:D. Still, he is an improvement on some of the hypocritical missionary position only moralists who blight the boards.

At least when X attacks (frequently) he shoots direct from the hip like a man. None of that sly back stabbing for him!

Surfer
03-11-09, 17:57
WI: Dude chill a bit, I'm only "singling you out" because of the number of your recent posts that are so negative about AC.

I agree with you in large measure about the bar owners and would not believe anything on their board (which cannot be named under ISG rules but can be found by googling). I used to get flamed often for suggesting on other boards the Pattaya bar owners cartel was responsible for the crackdown on Beach Road Freelancers (a couple years back). Your right that I do not follow all the gossip about bar owners as closely as you do. If they really did what you accuse them of, like exposing the identity of critics etc, then that should be exposed.

Of course one needs to check your bill carefully and use common sense to avoid being ripped off just like anywhere. And you make some good points, but your over reliance on hyperbole and exaggeration decreases your credibility IMHO. Your obsession on allowing cherry girls to dance, or more accurately expecting that you should be able to take home any girl with the audacity to dance or solicit ladies drinks in a bar is over the top IMHO. Ditto you taking one ugly incident (the American guy getting killed on the road outside Lewis Grand Hotel) and then stating how that section of Fields is a nogo zone at night unless you are armed is ridiculous IMHO. I would not hesitate to walk that stretch at night at all.

I have no dog in this fight at all, and of course there are dangers for the unwary and you warning newbies about those is useful. But it can be a fine line between expressing your opinions and advocacy (in your case against anybody going to AC except maybe Stampede Bar).

No mongering location is totally safe or without its share of shady characters. Hooking attracts them like moths to a flame. But I do not believe AC is much worse in that regard than Manila, Pattaya, Rio, Medellin etc etc etc. If the minimal nudity in strip bars is a problem, go to What's Up or Windmill on Walking Street or Soi Cowboy in BKK.

Wherever you vacation, enjoy it. IF AC sucks then why keep going back? Life is too short for all that negativity. Peace

Cunning Stunt
03-12-09, 09:15
Gamahucher, that's the nicest thing you ever wrote about me. Do you have a fever? Are you okay?

X
You're right, I don't smell like a rose.

X - think that its the ONLY nice thing that I ever wrote about you. Now where is that thermometer?

Don't expect it will be habit forming!

G

ThatGuy865
03-13-09, 02:15
I sure would like to know where this better place is.

I have yet to go to another place outside of Thailand that has bars of such variety. From the Santos quickies. To the bikini shows at atlas. 24/7 action with no let down.

You can find plenty of women any time. Day or night

For the number of people that go to AC. The number of scams and problems are very low statistically speaking.

X Man
03-13-09, 12:48
For God's sake man, don't put that thermometer under your tongue. Sorry, I should have told you beforehand where we usually put it.

X



X - think that its the ONLY nice thing that I ever wrote about you. Now where is that thermometer?

Don't expect it will be habit forming!

G

Sammon
03-13-09, 13:46
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Hesekiels,

I know a few place than is better than AC on mongering.

Ive been to AC 5 times just not much to do during the day.

The city below that you can get FS for 20 usd or less if you know where to go and qualtiy is better than AC.





Pattaya Thailand
Changping dongguan china
shenzhen china
zhu hai china
Jarkata indo
Phnom penh cambodia




fast eddie 48[/QUOTE

Pattaya- Thai girls have become more mercenary. It is hard to find GFE
Changping- Chinese girls are generally not good in bed. English is a problem.
Shenzhen- same problem as changping
Zhu hai- Same problem
Jakarta- can find some nice girls but requires lot of legwork
Phnom penh- All the pretty girls have a attitude problem.

Where else you can find thousands of willing girls crammed into 2 square mile area except AC ?
Where else you can find barfine includes sex ? no need to negotiate.
Where else you see the bars managed very well without cheap scams?

If you want sex round the clock go to Ac.
If you want beach destinations take your favourite girl from AC.
If you want to explore Philippines take a girl from AC without any strings attached.

Nothing beats AC.

Mr Big Johnson
03-13-09, 16:58
Common Sense is obviously in short supply, and it takes no more than reading a few pages in this thread to see there is not much of it in Angeles City Philippines.

There are a few posters saying they cant find a better place, that other places dont speak English as well, that there arent enough girls in other places: in reality though these are all the problems that Angeles City has more than any other place you can go.

To prove that the posts are nothing more than flattering propoganda you only have to look back to posts where it is proven that Nude Bars are illegal and there are not strip clubs in Angeles City so that in itself ruins the great place claim, and yet at the same time these posters will have you believe that these bars that cant even show any nudity what so ever on stage openly sell virgins.

You would have to be utterly stupid and a complete moran to believe this.

I find it laughable that while there is a resound answer that nudity is indeed outlawed, and that the strip club experience some may go seeking is limited to a few instances where a bar girl may get drunk and show some brief breast to a customer, that others will still post and believe that these same bars actually have what is called “Cherry Girls.” There will even be several posters try and support this promotional writing.

Cherry Girl is a Angeles City term that is used by the Bar to try and sucker you into buying drinks and then tell you the girl is not available to be bar fined for sex and have you buy another round or rounds for others now believing that girl is a Virgin. Then of course if you are sucker enough for that you will find that the other you have just bought a drink for is also miraculously a virgin as well.

You have got to be joking right? The law there outlaws nudity but will allow bars to openly sell Virgins? If you believe this then you have certainly got to rush out and buy some land somewhere in a swamp , as your money would be better protected and you obviously will lose it soon.

The reports on here have some guys even saying they went into bars, and for example one said of the four girls on duty in one of the places, that all four were indeed claiming to be virgins. The reality is in Angeles City they are all Cherry Girls unless you ask before buying drinks. The scam is spread across all bars in all areas now, and very little sex for sell is taking place in that city.

Angeles City has its best days long behind it, and on my most recent trip about a year ago now, I found it to be a boring and dead place to vacation. Most bars had the retired guy that was married to a local and thought he was somehow now the town hero buying drinks, but other than that it was like trying to fend off scams and con artists at every turn. It certainly had no repeat visitors, as anyone that had been surely would not repeat that nightmare again.

The only way it could ever regain any popularity is to completely change its name so people would not know it was the place they had been or heard about, and to oust the current bar owners and their scheming ways. This obviously will not happen and therefore I would conclude that Angeles City is probably about the most overrated destination you could possibly think of.

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Ekspat
03-13-09, 17:34
know a few place than is better than AC on mongering.
The city below that you can get FS for 20 usd or less if you know where to go and qualtiy is better than AC.
20 USD? Let's see.

Pattaya Thailand
Okay, can agree somewhat that you might find a good deal for 700 baht.
But some search necessary.


Changping dongguan china
shenzhen china
zhu hai china

Never been there, since I'm not interested in the China dolls.
Communicaion might be a major problem without Mandarin.


Jarkata indo
Less than 20 uSD??? Even TC and ST in Stadium is more nowadays.
Somewhere in Jaksa? Yeah, there are some doing it for 200k.
Come on, thats a freak show there.
BlokM? Maybe possible for uglies. But IMHO unlikely for better looking ones.

Or somewhere in the tents near the river banks or the railway tracks?
Yeah, you can get an excellent job there for 50k Rupiah,
but will you go with the girl through the lobby of LeMeridien?


Phnom penh cambodia

It's a shame since a few years.
Agree, it was fun before 2004 or so, but nowadays?
Even Sophie is closed.
C'mon..... HOD, LeCrc, Shanghai Bar etc is BS as well.

Me in AC now.
I went shopping in SM mall in AC just in the afternoon.
On my way back to LGH I took some SMB in Cherry's Club, Gentlemens Club, TOC and Emotions.
At least 10 immediately barfinable girls there, around 20y/o, no kids, reasonable english speaking, nice boobs, nice attitude.
It took 1 hour.

Can you make it anywhere else?

Ekspat
03-13-09, 17:40
@WI
Went barhopping today and in a place I saw at least 8 girls topless around me and the guy next to me.
Guy next to me got an excellent handjob and I've got a sample BBBJ for roughly 3-4 minutes.

FYI, it was even in Fields.

Enjoy, man!

X Man
03-14-09, 02:12
Is this your own writing or a compliation of things that WI and AV have written recently?

X


Common Sense is obviously in short supply, and it takes no more than reading a few pages in this thread to see there is not much of it in Angeles City Philippines.

There are a few posters saying they cant find a better place, that other places dont speak English as well, that there arent enough girls in other places: in reality though these are all the problems that Angeles City has more than any other place you can go.

To prove that the posts are nothing more than flattering propoganda you only have to look back to posts where it is proven that Nude Bars are illegal and there are not strip clubs in Angeles City so that in itself ruins the great place claim, and yet at the same time these posters will have you believe that these bars that cant even show any nudity what so ever on stage openly sell virgins.

You would have to be utterly stupid and a complete moran to believe this.

I find it laughable that while there is a resound answer that nudity is indeed outlawed, and that the strip club experience some may go seeking is limited to a few instances where a bar girl may get drunk and show some brief breast to a customer, that others will still post and believe that these same bars actually have what is called “Cherry Girls.” There will even be several posters try and support this promotional writing.

Cherry Girl is a Angeles City term that is used by the Bar to try and sucker you into buying drinks and then tell you the girl is not available to be bar fined for sex and have you buy another round or rounds for others now believing that girl is a Virgin. Then of course if you are sucker enough for that you will find that the other you have just bought a drink for is also miraculously a virgin as well.

You have got to be joking right? The law there outlaws nudity but will allow bars to openly sell Virgins? If you believe this then you have certainly got to rush out and buy some land somewhere in a swamp , as your money would be better protected and you obviously will lose it soon.

The reports on here have some guys even saying they went into bars, and for example one said of the four girls on duty in one of the places, that all four were indeed claiming to be virgins. The reality is in Angeles City they are all Cherry Girls unless you ask before buying drinks. The scam is spread across all bars in all areas now, and very little sex for sell is taking place in that city.

Angeles City has its best days long behind it, and on my most recent trip about a year ago now, I found it to be a boring and dead place to vacation. Most bars had the retired guy that was married to a local and thought he was somehow now the town hero buying drinks, but other than that it was like trying to fend off scams and con artists at every turn. It certainly had no repeat visitors, as anyone that had been surely would not repeat that nightmare again.

The only way it could ever regain any popularity is to completely change its name so people would not know it was the place they had been or heard about, and to oust the current bar owners and their scheming ways. This obviously will not happen and therefore I would conclude that Angeles City is probably about the most overrated destination you could possibly think of.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Cunning Stunt
03-14-09, 03:32
Pattaya- Thai girls have become more mercenary. It is hard to find GFE.

Changping- Chinese girls are generally not good in bed. English is a problem.
Shenzhen- same problem as changping
Zhu hai- Same problem
Jakarta- can find some nice girls but requires lot of legwork
Phnom penh- All the pretty girls have a attitude problem.

Nothing beats AC.Been to all those places fairly recently (except Jakarta, I was in Bali), and think that your experiences were generally not mine and that you are wildly generalizing. So here are some wild generalizations of my own:

Pattaya - so many girls to choose from that with a little effort you are bound to find something that suits both your requirement and purse.

Changping, Shenzhen and Zhuhai - English admittedly a problem but apart from 1 dud, the rest of my China dolls were very good in bed. But places are not really geared up for western tourists and are not very nice to visit anyway and Changping is supposedly dangerous. But where else can you get beautiful, model like 9-10's for such small money?

Indonesia - Very much like Philippines. If you cannot get your end away here, man you are in real trouble! Lots of amateurs, freelancers and available freebies to chase.

PP - scene much poorer here than even 3 years ago but it is still possible to find decent pussy at cheaper prices than any of the other destinations but generally a bit hit and miss for mongers these days.

Finally AC - still IMHO, the premier place (except maybe Pattaya) in SE Asia for a purely hedonistic, self indulgent sextravaganza. Shame that the place itself is such a tacky dump though.

Of course this is purely my personal opinion and we all know that opinions are like arseholes ...:D


Sorry, I should have told you beforehand where we usually put it.
X

Yes but how do you find room for it with your head being up there first ;).

Aussiec
03-14-09, 04:58
I overextended my visa by 10 days without renew what is the cost or penalty?

Fast Eddie 48
03-14-09, 07:10
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Hesekiels,

I know a few place than is better than AC on mongering.

I've been to AC 5 times just not much to do during the day.

The city below that you can get FS for 20 usd or less if you know where to go and qualtiy is better than AC.

Pattaya Thailand Changping dongguan China shenzhen China zhu hai China Jarkata indo Phnom penh Cambodia

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTEPattaya- Thai girls have become more mercenary. It is hard to find GFE

Changping- Chinese girls are generally not good in bed. English is a problem.

Shenzhen- same problem as changping.

Zhu hai- Same problem.

Jakarta- can find some nice girls but requires lot of legwork.

Phnom penh- All the pretty girls have a attitude problem.

Where else you can find thousands of willing girls crammed into 2 square mile area except AC?

Where else you can find barfine includes sex? No need to negotiate.

Where else you see the bars managed very well without cheap scams?

If you want sex round the clock go to Ac.

If you want beach destinations take your favourite girl from AC.

If you want to explore Philippines take a girl from AC without any strings attached.

Nothing beats AC.





to Sammon

I do agree that for GFE AC is the best, but the last one I got at the Blue Nile got an attuide.She only stay 4 hr only, offered one shot.

China is a little bit tough for newbie and laowei, but I am Chinese and speak good Mandarin and know where to go.






fast eddie 48

Fast Eddie 48
03-14-09, 07:23
20 USD? Let's see.

Okay, can agree somewhat that you might find a good deal for 700 baht.
But some search necessary.

Never been there, since I'm not interested in the China dolls.

Communicaion might be a major problem without Mandarin.

Less than 20 uSD??? Even TC and ST in Stadium is more nowadays.

Somewhere in Jaksa? Yeah, there are some doing it for 200k.

Come on, thats a freak show there.

BlokM? Maybe possible for uglies. But IMHO unlikely for better looking ones.

Or somewhere in the tents near the river banks or the railway tracks?

Yeah, you can get an excellent job there for 50k Rupiah,

but will you go with the girl through the lobby of LeMeridien?

It's a shame since a few years.

Agree, it was fun before 2004 or so, but nowadays?

Even Sophie is closed.

C'mon..... HOD, LeCrc, Shanghai Bar etc is BS as well.

Me in AC now.

I went shopping in SM mall in AC just in the afternoon.

On my way back to LGH I took some SMB in Cherry's Club, Gentlemens Club, TOC and Emotions.

At least 10 immediately barfinable girls there, around 20y/o, no kids, reasonable english speaking, nice boobs, nice attitude.

It took 1 hour.

Can you make it anywhere else?





to Ekspat,

I just checked the exchange rate for USD vs IND rupiah" 1 usd is 12k

There are many brothels at Loposari Plaza area, included TC for under 20 USD.

Yes mongering at PP and Pattaya have been going up in price the last few yr but so is p4p cost in AC,I get more GFE from freelance in LA cafe in Manila than anywhere in the world ,the new girl is much better after they are in the business for a few month their atttuide get worst is the same everywhere.




Fast eddie 48

Buko Max
03-14-09, 13:50
I overextended my visa by 10 days without renew what is the cost or penalty?
Hi Dcand4,

My friend always overextends his 21 day visa and just pays the penalty; that is if they even notice. It has happened to me as well. The cost is usually what it would be to extend to a 59 day visa. No worries!

Matius
03-15-09, 02:30
Cherry Girls:

All the girls working in the bars are required to get a health screen, think it is once a week, maybe every two weeks. Not recommending this as a form of safe sex. In that process the girl is designated as Non-virgin or virgin (Cherry Girl). No one would suggest this process of Health screening or designation of virgin/non virgin is 100% fool proof or accurate. Every girl working in the bar is required to wear a badge that identifies her and whether she is authorized to work and also whether she is working as a Cherry Girl. There is no scam about the designation of the girl, either the mamasaun or the badge will tell you before hand what the girl is. If you don't ask or check, well then maybe you are buying drinks for Cherry Girls without your knowledge. Shame on you greenhorn.

Nothing other than drinks are openly for sale. True Cherry Girls, and almost every bar has a couple, may decide to lose their cherry to you if: 1) they like you, 2) you pay the price (generally between 40, 000 to 60, 000 P), 3) they are ready to lose it so they can start doing regular barfines, that is where the money is for them. It generally takes time to get to the finish with a Cherry Girl, long bar fine of days or even weeks, maybe several trips, she falls in love or sees money in a sponsor. Many of the Cherry girls lose it, not for money, but because they see a long-term boyfriend, and give it up for free. You can't just go into a bar as a newbe and ask to buy cherry girls, it does not work like that. But if you really want to pursue one, have the time, potentially the money, you can get one. The asians are big into this. I've not seen the bars scamming with fake cherry girls, the bar will not allow a girl to pretend to be a cherry girl, once they know she is broken, they will force her to change her designation. But when a girl comes to them new, says she is a Cherry girl, behaves like a cherry girl, gets the health screen saying she is a cherry girl (again don't know how accurate that is), then they assume she is. The girls co-workers if they find out she is not Cherry would not keep it secret, Filipina's love to gossip. The bar owner could get shut down for selling fake cherry girls cause they don't have the full health screening as required for the other girls.

Nudity:

As with prostitution nudity is forbidden by law. But most newbe's won't know how to find what they want. Big spenders in the right bars, get the doors closed and the clothes come off. There are events at certain venues where they all get naked. There is nothing as professional as a "strip club" with good pole dancers, etc. No shows like in Pattaya. But if you just want to see naked, its frequent enough if you know where to go and you are not a cheap charlie. The only thing official and openly displayed are the body paint shows, which is kind of nudity. None of the girls in AC would know how to put on a professional strip show.

There are a couple of sites, not allowed to mention here, that have weekly photo's of these events. Its an open secret, just not what you might call a "strip club".

Scams:

Of recent a couple of posters have surfaced who seem intent on painting AC as one big rip off, where the tourists are repeatedly subjected to scams, theft and danger. One suggests there is no sex for sale in AC, that the whole area is set up as one big scam. That comment, if intended, is just plain wrong. More so, it appears to be intentional dis-information perhaps by someone with a social agenda.

I've had girls who did not want to go with me, and it may have cost me a drink to discover that. I can afford the $2. Generally the excuse will be the mens, but almost all girls would tell you that before accepting a barfine. The girls make their "big" money by the barfine. Its also why the Cherry Girls eventually become not cherry girls. The bar owners are not in the business of ripping off their customers. I've seen though, a couple of customers that are absolute pigs, scare the girls to death, have a bad reputation on how they treat the girls on a barfine, and the owners try to discourage those customers from repeat business.

Its not hard to be successful in AC, regardless of your age, physical condition or race. No one can have any girl, any time, but you can have 90% of the girls any time. But presentation helps a little also. How about wearing a nice shirt and long pants. Perhaps being a gentleman, keep your voice down, your language clean, smile and be courteous. Treat the girls with respect when you go out, buy them a drink before you ask them to go out on Barfine. Almost all will tell you of any conditions, no sex, on mens, only bar hopping before you do the barfine.

For the newbe to AC perhaps understanding the girls code will help you be more successful. Do you have family or married or girlfriend--potential boyfriend or sponsor potential. How long are you here--can I get a long time barfine or is it only for one night. The last night is always hell in AC as they know the money ends in the morning and that is when you most likely will get the runners. What hotel are you staying at--they know the hotels, is it a low budget, no money room and bed.

How do you present yourself. Heard the term two week millionaires. If you look well healed, your success rate goes up. Posts that suggest there is no sex for sale in AC, is similar to there is no rice in China. Its pure and simple dis-information. Its not a report of distinction, its crap. If you can't find a one night stand, a GFE, three-some, ST, LT, anal, BBJ, DATY or whatever flips your switch, then there is no hope for you and stay home. I've spent in total many months in AC, I've never been disappointed in the trip, never. I will be there again in May. I've never been scammed or robbed by a bar. I walk down the streets at night, but use good common sense and keep a low profile. Don't be drunk in pubic or in the bar. Don't go off with or talk to street hustlers or street girls. Don't flash money in public places. Watch your bar tab, when they put the paper in the cup on your table. Its all standard stuff for those who have been doing this awhile.

Good fun to you

Matius

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John Jr
03-15-09, 03:36
Guys,

It's all fun and games in AC, however, there are times when the girls that you select do not hold up their end of the bargain.

Allow me to elaborate. I stayed in Hotel Amsterdam, in the Panorama suite. It's a pretty sizable setup with hot tub living room, bar, kitchen, etc. Therefore, I decided that I needed a few girls to fill up the space.

So I set out to Golden Nile and ended up barfining 4 studly looking lesbians and 4 regular girls.

Two of the girls ended up not being totally down with the girl-on-girl action, so we decided to head down to Blue Nile to select two more girls. Total damage in Blue Nile; 2700 piso.

We stopped at 7-11 and bought some drinks, and also grabbed some food from the shiny new fields McDonalds. Total damage there; 3000 piso.

We get to the hotel, amid looks of horror from the front desk staff. Evidently the hotel only allows 4 guests at a time due to previous bad experiences, but a quick call to the manager for reassurance enables me to take the girls upstairs.

After arriving upstairs, we ate, drank and enjoyed some music for about an hour, upon which I decide to visit the toilet and run the hot tub. When I return to the girls, something did not seem right. I counted my girls again and noticed that I had two missing. Apparently the two girls had left for no apparent reason!

Fast forward to the next evening...2000 sharp, back to Blue Nile! I was at the front door at opening time, ready to kick ass and take some names. Funny thing was, I asked around who the boss was, and nobody could seem to tell me! I finally track down one mamasan that tells me that she was away for a week, and that the mamasan in question does not get in until 2100, along with the girls. I'm told to return at 2300, which gives the mamasan ample time to interview the girls and get their side of the story.

2345.....a few minutes late due to a sexcapade...I am back at Blue Nile. I talk to a large bald headed pinoy gentleman who introduces himself as the head papasan/manager on duty. I explain my story and request my 2700 pesos back. I am told that he empowers his mamasans at the lowest level possible, and that she will make a decision on whether I get my barfine back or not.

I thank the gentleman and head back downstairs to search for my mamasan. I finally track her down after 20 minutes, and ask her if she had a chance to talk to the girls. She reports that Blue Nile is a big place, so she is having some trouble finding the girls. She offers me a choice of two other girls, "easiest course of action" she says, but I decline. How am I going to enjoy two random girls, especially after what just happened?

We confront the girls after an hour. Their story was apparently that I gave them permission to leave, which obviously was a load of baloney. In my presence however, the story changes to my hotel security guard banged on my door and made the girls leave, which is a big fat lie, as I talked to the HOTEL MANAGER on the phone and got permission BEFORE I brought the girls up. Last I checked, manager outranks security guard.

At this point my eyes bug out of my head, but I keep my cool. At this point, if I had my way, i would have my two hands around that little girl's neck, but I have too much to lose, so I control myself.

I offer to take mamasan and the girls to Hotel Amsterdam to verify that the security guard did not indeed kick the girls out. Head mamasan declines, and says that the girls and myself can go and sort it out on our own. I respond with a chuckle and tell mamasan "that's like going to court and being your own prosecutor, of course you win the case!" So I demand that she sends a mamasan to witness the confrontation.

Of course we get to the hotel and the security guard basically confirms that the girls are lying. At that point the girls apologize, to which I reply "I don't want an apology, I just want my money back" Mamasan offers me a free drink. I laugh in her face. I follow them back to the bar and declare that I will not leave until I am compensated.

I am told to wait while they decide. One hour later, I lose my patience and storm up the stairs to the manager's office. I ask him what in the world is going on, because I have been waiting for an hour. He tells me I have to go back downstairs and work it out with mamasan. I tell him, ok, I'll give it one more chance because I am being ignored.

I go downstairs and chase mamasan. She dodges me and tells me I need to find papasan and work it out with him. I tell her, irritatingly, that papasan just sent me back to her, and that I do not appreciate this game of ping pong.

I tell her to come with me and the three of us will talk together to resolve this problem. She tells me to wait, to which I respond "Miss, I have been waiting for 2 hours!" It is also at this point that mamasan loses it and starts yelling in frustration and saying it is not her job.

She runs into the changing room, and does not emerge for 30 minutes. I lose my patience and find the papasan again, and this time I DEMAND that he find this lady and we resolve this NOW.

Papasan tells me that he cannot give me my money back because he has sent it to Blue Nile Group already. I tell him to give me his boss' contact info so he is relieved of the matter. He basically replies that he is afraid of the boss in so many words, but that he would rather give me 2700 piso of his own money just to shut me up.

I am then offered 1200 peso, which alledgedly is the girls' cut. I respectfully decline. At this point it is 3 am, my night is basically finished, and finally I accept 1500 peso and promise a positive review on ISG.com forum.

The verdict: In the end, I have no one to for blame myself for allowing myself to be lied to and cheated, however, the bottom line still lies in the arena of customer service. In Blue Nile there is none.

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Great review ,

I have a question in regards to this type of situation . Who can someone avoid getting ripped off ? I always pay after , i dont know if its accepted in the Philipines

Hesekiels
03-15-09, 12:01
Cherry Girls:

All the girls working in the bars are required to get a health screen ...

Matius

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Matius:

that's indeed an excellent evaluation! I do highly appreciate your post!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

ThatGuy865
03-15-09, 17:00
Cherry girls can be bar fined just as any other girls can. I and friends have paid regular bar fine and FUCKED cherry girls without paying 40, 000 pesos. The mamasans have no say, once the bar fine is paid, and the girl leaves with you nothing they can do. Its between you and the girl, and you can pay a normal BF to get them out of the bars. Just tell the mamasan you're going bar hoping and at most might try for a BJ (which they allow cherry girls to do). What happens then is between you and her.

Yes the girl has to like you, but to me it doesn't seem to take a long time to convince them to lose the cherry, I had one who let me pop the cherry, the second time I saw her. The first night was a night of DFK, drinks and meals and a BJ. Then the next time I saw her it was all mine for the taking.

Believe me you can talk them out of the pootane. These girls (especially newbies) are very gullible, if you have some game about yourself.

Too often mongers only think about paying and forget to try to swoon a babe out of the pussy. JMHO

Primo Bolan
03-16-09, 00:47
Cherry girls can be bar fined just as any other girls can. I and friends have paid regular bar fine and FUCKED cherry girls without paying 40, 000 pesos. The mamasans have no say, once the bar fine is paid, and the girl leaves with you nothing they can do. Its between you and the girl, and you can pay a normal BF to get them out of the bars. Just tell the mamasan you're going bar hoping and at most might try for a BJ (which they allow cherry girls to do). What happens then is between you and her.

Yes the girl has to like you, but to me it doesn't seem to take a long time to convince them to lose the cherry, I had one who let me pop the cherry, the second time I saw her. The first night was a night of DFK, drinks and meals and a BJ. Then the next time I saw her it was all mine for the taking.

Believe me you can talk them out of the pootane. These girls (especially newbies) are very gullible, if you have some game about yourself.

Too often mongers only think about paying and forget to try to swoon a babe out of the pussy. JMHO

Wow!
Eh and you are so special. they like you.
By the way have you been to Angeles?

Amavida
03-16-09, 04:03
Wonderful post by AV, the expert at all things AC.

"two week millionaires" is in quotes, so where does this come from?

Millionaire? Peso millionaire?

According to XE.com

one million peso is about....

... 21,000 US$
...16,000 euro
...2,000,000 yen
...31,000,000 won

Two weeks in the Philippines and I don't think I've ever spent more than $8,000 (ticket included). Even using yen, which I sometimes do, I don't come close to the two-week millionaire club.

AV, are you Korean?

XYou ALREADY know that I am an Aussie X-Man.
Jesus! What a pointlessly nit picking argumentative post... I rest my case..

In my country I would give you a mouth full about this crap you go on with but since this is an online forum I remain polite. Im too busy enjoying my life here to give you another thought you silly person.
AV

Sammon
03-16-09, 04:27
Cherry girls can be bar fined just as any other girls can. I and friends have paid regular bar fine and FUCKED cherry girls without paying 40, 000 pesos. The mamasans have no say, once the bar fine is paid, and the girl leaves with you nothing they can do. Its between you and the girl, and you can pay a normal BF to get them out of the bars. Just tell the mamasan you're going bar hoping and at most might try for a BJ (which they allow cherry girls to do). What happens then is between you and her.

Yes the girl has to like you, but to me it doesn't seem to take a long time to convince them to lose the cherry, I had one who let me pop the cherry, the second time I saw her. The first night was a night of DFK, drinks and meals and a BJ. Then the next time I saw her it was all mine for the taking.

Believe me you can talk them out of the pootane. These girls (especially newbies) are very gullible, if you have some game about yourself.

Too often mongers only think about paying and forget to try to swoon a babe out of the pussy. JMHO

Oh boy! you must have a charm of Brad Pitt.
You are full of shit. The girls depend on their so called "cherry" to make some big money from gullible people. It is highly unlikely they will give it for free.
Ofcourse there are many times I have heard a story from them that somebody forcibly took their cherry when they were drunk. I think it is a ruse to make you feel sorry for them and try to get more money. Whether real cherry or not , the purpose is to make money.

Amavida
03-16-09, 04:58
Oh boy! you must have a charm of Brad Pitt.
You are full of shit. The girls depend on their so called "cherry" to make some big money from gullible people. It is highly unlikely they will give it for free.
Ofcourse there are many times I have heard a story from them that somebody forcibly took their cherry when they were drunk. I think it is a ruse to make you feel sorry for them and try to get more money. Whether real cherry or not , the purpose is to make money.My experiences tally with Sammon.
If you are younger, well groomed, polite & well off you have no problems getting lot'sa sweet fresh pussy voluntarily impaling itself on your 'titi'!

Cherry pricing is just for fleecing cashed up Koreans & Japanese who are there to spend as much money as possible as quickly as possible in their short vacation time.
Hey, the bars are just catering to a need. Its just market forces at work.
If Koreans did'nt fall over themselves to throw fist fulls of pesos at the idea of having sex with a virgin for money then it would not be available.
AV

Sammon
03-16-09, 05:06
1. Enter the bar of your choice. Immediately you will be seated and asked about your drink of choice.
2. Look around at all girls including dancing girls , waitresses, mamasans.
3. Sometimes some girls will come and chat with you. They will ask for a drink.
If you like to buy them a drink the charge is 150 or 300 pesos in most bars.
Just say no if you do not want to buy them a drink. It is ok.
4. Start searching for your type of girl. If you find one ask your waitress to
call that girl. The girl will come and sit with you.
5. When you call the girl it is customary to buy her a drink.
6. There are some girls who are "virgins". They are on sale for highest bidder
to deflower them. You can check on this by talking to the waitress or
mamasan.
There is a big debate whether these girls are really virgins which I am not
going to get into. Most young Philippino girls bleed in sex because of the
western penis size or if the lubrication is not enough. Is it an indication
of virgin status? I do not know.
Anyway if you want to deflower the girl the cost is anywhere from 20,000-
100,000 pesos. This is negotiated between you and the girl. Girl gets all
the money but you need to pay the bar before for safekeeping.
7. If you want to take the girl with you it is called barfine or EWR ( early work
release ). The cost is 1000-1500 pesos for many girls. There are spotlight
dancers whose barfine is 3000 pesos.
Just ask the waitress or mamasan and pay.
8. If you do not like the bar or girls pay for drinks and move to the next bar
and repeat the process.
9. It is a silent understanding that your barfine includes sex and companion
ship for the night. You can take her to barhop, dancing or straight to
your room. You are in charge here.
But my advice is if it is not too late take her bar hopping and dancing at
disco. This will kind of break the ice and sex will be better.
10.
There is no such thing as St (short time) . One barfine which is supposedtobe for all night although if the girl leaves after one time sex there is
nothing you can do.
Remember you paid for her EWR only.
If the girl refuses sex at all you can complain to the management of the
bar and try to recoup your money. I have never done that so cannot
give advice.
11. There are literally more than a thousand bargirls in AC. You will always
find the one which you like best.

Victorian
03-16-09, 05:28
Thatguy is right. Cherry girls from the bars or non-bar girls can be seduced into giving up their cherry.

What I really hate is when the guy gives any girl, let alone a cherry, a lot of BS false hopes just to get free sex. Almost all of the girls there want a nice guy who will take care of them and their family – their white knight in shining armour or at least help them.

Seduction if it is being nice and romantic and caring is good, but bola bola can be very damaging.

A bargirl I met last month was seduced when she was just 17 by a Westerner into giving up her cherry for free. The guy told her and emailed her stuff like “when we are married” and “I love you” before the deed and also talked about helping her financially.

But after this “guy” got her cherry, his attitude changed and he was very cold. And this girl is really lovely. A classic was an email from him when she did need some money saying that he had bills to pay and would not send money. She was really hurt by this guy. Basically she was scammed.

No wonder the girls get toughened up and want to get the most from a foreigner!

Life is so much better and easier if you are straight with these girls. Last year I started barfining a cherry girl just cos she was such good company and really cute.

I told her at the beginning I was seeing other girls and she was very happy to be barfined so she wouldn’t have to work all night. It worked pretty well. I would have a fun short time and then cuddle up with her at night.

After a few nights the inevitable happened (and yes we discussed it and she wanted). No money was ever discussed.

I was always nice to her and gave her a fair amount of cash plus a camera and computer and some other stuff to help her (she was a student working in the bar for some cash for her school fees).

And to preempt the inevitable kuripot responses, both of those girls were genuine and there was no bola bola from them or me. Sure I enjoy the “benefits” of being with these lovely girls, but I also enjoy helping their lives wherever I can.

What's the point of "playing the game" with a girl in the Philippines and risk hurting her? Is it an ego thing or do some people just enjoy hurting "gullible newbies"?



"Believe me you can talk them out of the pootane. These girls (especially newbies) are very gullible, if you have some game about yourself."

Amavida
03-16-09, 06:08
Thatguy is right. Cherry girls from the bars or non-bar girls can be seduced into giving up their cherry.

What I really hate is when the guy gives any girl, let alone a cherry, a lot of BS false hopes just to get free sex.

Seduction if it is being nice and romantic and caring is good, but bola bola can be very damaging.

Sure I enjoy the “benefits” of being with these lovely girls, but I also enjoy helping their lives wherever I can.
Yes there is a difference between being nice to them & lying your head off. Guys don't need to lie to them, they just appreciate a little consideration.
I think its really bad karma to run all over the PI 'meeting the parents', stealing the one thing of value they have & then pissing off.
AV

Professional
03-16-09, 06:09
Cherry girls can be bar fined just as any other girls can. I and friends have paid regular bar fine and FUCKED cherry girls without paying 40, 000 pesos. The mamasans have no say, once the bar fine is paid, and the girl leaves with you nothing they can do. Its between you and the girl, and you can pay a normal BF to get them out of the bars. Just tell the mamasan you're going bar hoping and at most might try for a BJ (which they allow cherry girls to do). What happens then is between you and her.

Yes the girl has to like you, but to me it doesn't seem to take a long time to convince them to lose the cherry, I had one who let me pop the cherry, the second time I saw her. The first night was a night of DFK, drinks and meals and a BJ. Then the next time I saw her it was all mine for the taking.

Believe me you can talk them out of the pootane. These girls (especially newbies) are very gullible, if you have some game about yourself.

Too often mongers only think about paying and forget to try to swoon a babe out of the pussy. JMHOI have barfine two cherry girls both were willing to give me there cherry without anything extra both times I did not take it (I know I am stupid). I don't really get off on taking someone cherry I would rather she sold it to the highest bidder and take he the next time I am in AC or the next day. 50k is really alot of money to these girls and I would rather they sold it rather give it to me free.

Really I just think it is a mean thing to do, lying or bola bola them into giving up there cherry this is a hurtful game I have been hurt in the past before it is not fun so I won't do it to someone else if I can help it.

I never really thought of myself as having game but both times they offer me there cherry because I spend time with them and just had a good time with them I did not miss treat them I did not belittle them I even met one of the cherry girls family but I never lied to them I always told them I am not staying I am just on vacation still I think they were thinking boyfriend with me. No it is not hard to get cherry for free but personally I would not.

X Man
03-16-09, 09:44
I'm sure most Aussies cringe whey AV admits his heritage. My post was not pointlessy nit picking argumentative - it was a lesson on exchange rates. I guess AV had something in mind when he declared "two-week millionaire" -- maybe something like "big spender"? If he had just said so, I could have accepted that, but then he goes off calling names. Sticks and stones....

AV has declared that he put me on his IGNORE list, which was apparently not true. I make it a rule not to call names, but some people would suggest, "liar".

So, am I a nitpicker -- maybe members can judge for themselves.

I once posted a little story. Met a girl, first date at the mall for lunch, then met the extended family at her insistence, then bedded the girl two hours later (not a virgin, btw) when she insisted on accompanying me to pick up my laundry.

AV took me to task about what a horrible thing I had done -- MEETING the parents.

Besides the point, but she later tried to get money with lies and is now married in the West. Her bikini and pussy pictures have adorned these pages.

Who is the nitpicker?

I was also called a nitpicker after asking for clarification when AV claimed that abortion snake oil was being sold INSIDE Quipo Catholic church.

Silly me.

X

NOTE: I've never met AV, so I don't know who he is or where he is from. Since this is an "international" forum, it's sad to read someone spewing about "in my country...".



You ALREADY know that I am an Aussie X-Man.
Jesus! What a pointlessly nit picking argumentative post... I rest my case..

In my country I would give you a mouth full about this crap you go on with but since this is an online forum I remain polite. Im too busy enjoying my life here to give you another thought you silly person.
AV

Ekspat
03-16-09, 11:20
Ayoooo, another cracking week in AC ended,
and back into office! :(

Several barhoppings with bro Poopbunny,
always fun and we had a great time.

What to say, hehe, wanted to barfine a superstar
from Atlantis, I needed 3 tries to get her.
Usually I was always late at 10pm or so.
Went there finally 8.30pm and got her, later she's usually gone.

Performance is good, but thinking reasonably......
Man, we're all hit by the financial crisis :D
Finally it's smarter to barfine two pretty dancers for 2.6kps,
who are also there in abundance.
But a superstar, it's a great eye-candy, I admit.
Sometimes worth it just for that.

Had some sort of a runner. But just sort of.
I asked her about bf, and then she told me okay,
but she wants to leave 2am. For what reasons ever.
Fine with me, because it was my last night.
Hehe, :D she overslept after a good round,
another round at 5.30am, 500ps tip
and off she went.... :D
Then breakfast and to the airport.

Usually ST in afternoon, around the hotel,
Emotions, Gentlemens, Sunshine etc.
Several times JF. None of Stampede this time. ;)
Evening partying in Fields. Sort of that happened.

Looking forward to Jakarta next.
Looking forward to AC again in May!
Life is nice di ba?

Cheers!

Acfreddie
03-16-09, 15:03
Great review ,

I have a question in regards to this type of situation . Who can someone avoid getting ripped off ? I always pay after , i dont know if its accepted in the Philipines

The AC system is pay in advance, there are no bars that I am aware of (and I live here) that use the Thai or similar system.

How can you avoid being ripped-off or scammed. Choose your bar you plan to bar fine/ewr from carefully. Bars have reputations (and these change) stick wit bars that are known to have a good bar fine reputation. Doing this will reduce your chances, but will NOT eliminate your chances of being ripped-off

Acfreddie
03-16-09, 15:13
1. Enter the bar of your choice. Immediately you will be seated and asked about your drink of choice.
2. Look around at all girls including dancing girls , waitresses, mamasans.
3. Sometimes some girls will come and chat with you. They will ask for a drink.
If you like to buy them a drink the charge is 150 or 300 pesos in most bars.
Just say no if you do not want to buy them a drink. It is ok.
4. Start searching for your type of girl. If you find one ask your waitress to
call that girl. The girl will come and sit with you.
5. When you call the girl it is customary to buy her a drink.
6. There are some girls who are "virgins". They are on sale for highest bidder
to deflower them. You can check on this by talking to the waitress or
mamasan.
There is a big debate whether these girls are really virgins which I am not
going to get into. Most young Philippino girls bleed in sex because of the
western penis size or if the lubrication is not enough. Is it an indication
of virgin status? I do not know.
Anyway if you want to deflower the girl the cost is anywhere from 20,000-
100,000 pesos. This is negotiated between you and the girl. Girl gets all
the money but you need to pay the bar before for safekeeping.
7. If you want to take the girl with you it is called barfine or EWR ( early work
release ). The cost is 1000-1500 pesos for many girls. There are spotlight
dancers whose barfine is 3000 pesos.
Just ask the waitress or mamasan and pay.
8. If you do not like the bar or girls pay for drinks and move to the next bar
and repeat the process.
9. It is a silent understanding that your barfine includes sex and companion
ship for the night. You can take her to barhop, dancing or straight to
your room. You are in charge here.
But my advice is if it is not too late take her bar hopping and dancing at
disco. This will kind of break the ice and sex will be better.
10.
There is no such thing as St (short time) . One barfine which is supposedtobe for all night although if the girl leaves after one time sex there is
nothing you can do.
Remember you paid for her EWR only.
If the girl refuses sex at all you can complain to the management of the
bar and try to recoup your money. I have never done that so cannot
give advice.
11. There are literally more than a thousand bargirls in AC. You will always
find the one which you like best.

A great newbie guide for sure. I would add
for #4, if you spot a girl, ask your waitress if she is a cherry girl or not, this cuts down on you finding out when the girl is in front/besides you and removes the need for you to refuse buying any cherry girls a ladies drink (unless you are looking for a cherry girl, which most guys are not).

For #7, there are also a new classification being used in Golden Nile, these are the waitresses and tequila girls and their bar fine is P2,000
I would also note that many of the spotlight dancers (P3,000) are of similar quality and many lower quality than those found in other bars with bar fines of P1,300 or so)

for #9, its best to lay out what you will be wanting during your interview process with the girl(s). Doing this will (and has for years for me personally) reduced the chances of me being ripped-off and makes for a better overall experience. Do not be shy to talk about the issue (remember this is their job)

For #10, Choosing your bar carefully will help reduce your chances of being ripped off by a runner or early leaver. Every bar has a reputation, sticking with the ones that have pro-bar fine girls employed there will go along way with benefiting you. Should you have a problem, the general rule of thumb for ac bars is that once you have done anything sexual (read if you penetrated or she blew you) you are out of luck. In the past 9-12 months, I have personally noticed that there has been an escalation that is negative in nature towards the customer at many of the Fields bars and the bar owners have been more accepting of taking the girls side of issues/problem leaving the customers out of luck. Again going by a bars reputation will go along way in helping reduce your exposure to this.

X Man
03-16-09, 16:03
Great post Sammon.

A lot of people will feel the need to add to your list. I sure do.

But I'll restrain myself to just one...

somewhere between points 2 thru 4....

order a drink, note the price, smile at anyone cute, try not to be bored to death by the usual name/country/hotel questions, ask her/them questions and educate yourself about the Philippines....

Hmmm, maybe that isn't just one point.

X




1. Enter the bar of your choice. Immediately you will be seated and asked about your drink of choice.
2. Look around at all girls including dancing girls , waitresses, mamasans.
3. Sometimes some girls will come and chat with you. They will ask for a drink.
If you like to buy them a drink the charge is 150 or 300 pesos in most bars.
Just say no if you do not want to buy them a drink. It is ok.
4. Start searching for your type of girl. If you find one ask your waitress to
call that girl. The girl will come and sit with you.
5. When you call the girl it is customary to buy her a drink.
.

Robbaf
03-16-09, 22:24
Ayoooo, another cracking week in AC ended,
and back into office! :(

Usually ST in afternoon, around the hotel,
Emotions, Gentlemens, Sunshine etc.
Several times JF. None of Stampede this time.
Evening partying in Fields. Sort of that happened.

Looking forward to AC again in May!
Life is nice di ba?

Cheers!Very well said Ekspat; I also just ended my week in AC and already planning my next trip. Sounds like we had the same travel agent:D Started everyday at 2 and made the most of my trip.

Robb

Pyjama
03-16-09, 22:33
#3882
Seems there was "glasses-day". I LOVE women with glasses!!

HenryV
03-17-09, 01:47
Great job.

No. 1 - I very seldom sit down until I am comfortable I want to stay. Additionally, I always ask at the door if it is ok just to go in and look around, this way no hard feelings if you don't buy a drink.

Don't try this at Insomnia - the mamson came out and tried to publicly ridicule me for not biying a drink. She started calling me "Cheap Charlie" and said I should stay home (US). I told her, loud enough for everyone to hear, that if I stayed home skanks like her would starve. That really set her off. out of work.

Never went back.


A great newbie guide for sure. I would add
for #4, if you spot a girl, ask your waitress if she is a cherry girl or not, this cuts down on you finding out when the girl is in front/besides you and removes the need for you to refuse buying any cherry girls a ladies drink (unless you are looking for a cherry girl, which most guys are not).

For #7, there are also a new classification being used in Golden Nile, these are the waitresses and tequila girls and their bar fine is P2,000
I would also note that many of the spotlight dancers (P3,000) are of similar quality and many lower quality than those found in other bars with bar fines of P1,300 or so)

for #9, its best to lay out what you will be wanting during your interview process with the girl(s). Doing this will (and has for years for me personally) reduced the chances of me being ripped-off and makes for a better overall experience. Do not be shy to talk about the issue (remember this is their job)

For #10, Choosing your bar carefully will help reduce your chances of being ripped off by a runner or early leaver. Every bar has a reputation, sticking with the ones that have pro-bar fine girls employed there will go along way with benefiting you. Should you have a problem, the general rule of thumb for ac bars is that once you have done anything sexual (read if you penetrated or she blew you) you are out of luck. In the past 9-12 months, I have personally noticed that there has been an escalation that is negative in nature towards the customer at many of the Fields bars and the bar owners have been more accepting of taking the girls side of issues/problem leaving the customers out of luck. Again going by a bars reputation will go along way in helping reduce your exposure to this.

ThatGuy865
03-17-09, 03:10
Great job.

No. 1. I very seldom sit down until I am comfortable I want to stay. Additionally, I always ask at the door if it is ok just to go in and look around, this way no hard feelings if you don't buy a drink.

Don't try this at Insomnia. The mamson came out and tried to publicly ridicule me for not biying a drink. She started calling me "Cheap Charlie" and said I should stay home (US). I told her, loud enough for everyone to hear, that if I stayed home skanks like her would starve. That really set her off. Out of work. Never went back.I wouldn't take it personal. Forget what they think. Because there might be just that special one next time you poke your head in.

Everyone does the same thing. Especially to the small bars on fields. Walk in. Look around. Scan the stage. If the babes are fugly, doing that side to side zombie dance, I turn around and leave. Who wants to waste their time unless the babes are giving you some extra attention wink wink.

Ekspat
03-17-09, 03:47
Matius: "The girls make their "big" money by the barfine."

Not entirely true, Matius. Depends on the quality of the girl.
The prettier girls make the most of their money with LD.
Many refuse your offer of BF at 8pm, but will go with you at 12am.
Within this time they can make more money with LD than a complete BF.

Sammon: "There is no such thing as St (short time) . One barfine which is supposedtobe for all night..."

Of course there is ST in AC. Between 700 and 900ps.
Sometimes the bars have rooms behind/upstairs (small, hot and dirty)
or you take the girls for 2 hours in your room.
No problem at all.

Otherwise barfine her and agree with her on ST,
then she leaves after some hours.
Who cares about a difference of 400ps?

Cheers!

Poopbunny
03-17-09, 12:00
Ayoooo, another cracking week in AC ended,
and back into office! :(

Several barhoppings with bro Poopbunny,
always fun and we had a great time.

Usually ST in afternoon, around the hotel,
Emotions, Gentlemens, Sunshine etc.
Several times JF. None of Stampede this time. ;)
Evening partying in Fields. Sort of that happened.

Looking forward to Jakarta next.
Looking forward to AC again in May!
Life is nice di ba?

Cheers!

Hey Ekspat! are those pictures of the girl I saw you with on my last night?

Anyway my report later...too much work to catch up to.

Ekspat
03-18-09, 03:18
Hey Ekspat! are those pictures of the girl I saw you with on my last night?
The boobs yes, I think so.
The other pic was a later catch of the day, on Friday.

Cheers!

X Man
03-19-09, 12:55
I've really enjoyed the posts by Ekspat, but I want the facts...nothing but the facts.

Can a pretty girl make more on drinks than the barfine? Hmmm.

One scenario presented is that she drinks all night and then barfines when things get late. Smart girl. A good-lookin gal can play that game and do very well.

But where I want to nitpick is the comment "Within this time they can make more money with LD than a complete BF". Hmm, how much does she make on the drinks and how much on the barfine. Half? I don't remember.

But what's missing from this equation is that a lot of gals look forward to the newbie who wakes up in the morning after having the best sx of his life and wonders how much to give. There's a good reason why they ask, "how long have you been in the Philippines?"

Even a few of the crusty old Philippines regulars, like myself, have our hearstrings pulled a bit (penal arteries?) which loosens up the wallet.

On average, I will make a safe bet that on average, beautiful women DO NOT make more on barfines in four hours than they can make on barfine plus tips.

Of course a beautiful woman can make more than enough to survive on ladies drinks - she doesn't have to prostitue herself. She'll barfine a guy she truly likes, or a guy she truly believes to be generous (which is a guy she convinces herself she truly likes).

Oh, and back to the AVERAGE, I think we should include "permanent" barfines into the math, but NOT INCLUDE the money from those guys who get hoodwinked into buying houses or businesses.

?

I'm tired. Just got back from a very active two day holiday in Hakone, in the futon and out, so not sure if I'm still on track from the beginning of my message.

OH, Ekspat, last time I was in a st room, it was large, fairly clean, and the gal was .... amiable. Absolutely the best two hours I've ever spent on Perimeter. Twist my arm and I'll send the pics.. some of which were already posted about two years ago. Not sure if that room still exists, but I can tell you the girl disappeared. She claimed not to have a phone nor an email, and I suspect and hope she's happily with someone right now. I hope he can handle her!

X



Matius: "The girls make their "big" money by the barfine."

Not entirely true, Matius. Depends on the quality of the girl.
The prettier girls make the most of their money with LD.
Many refuse your offer of BF at 8pm, but will go with you at 12am.
Within this time they can make more money with LD than a complete BF.

Sammon: "There is no such thing as St (short time) . One barfine which is supposedtobe for all night..."

Of course there is ST in AC. Between 700 and 900ps.
Sometimes the bars have rooms behind/upstairs (small, hot and dirty)
or you take the girls for 2 hours in your room.
No problem at all.

Otherwise barfine her and agree with her on ST,
then she leaves after some hours.
Who cares about a difference of 400ps?

Cheers!

Genghois
03-19-09, 14:51
We can all agree that AC isn’t a perfect place… but where is? And it’s still my favourite place for mongering, though I can never take more than four or five days at a time before I move on to other parts of the Phil for some more challenging hunting.

You guys are spot on that it how much fun you have comes down to your own attitude. If that particular poster under discussion shows a similar attitude in the bars as he does in his posts, it’s little surprise that he didn’t enjoy himself. I’ve had trips to AC that were less than successful, but it was due to my own attitude, and being too stressed out from work to just relax and have fun. AC is definitely a place where you should just throw your real life away and regress to some simpler, less intellectual, less philosophical version of yourself. Just let it hang out. Pinays are a fun-loving bunch. If you’re not willing to have some fun with them, your attractiveness will suffer.

I’m not an easy guy to please, and always go for the beauties. But you can always get what you want, with sufficient patience and bar-hopping. As has been said so many times, use the waitresses (and the mamasans, but less so) to avoid the cherry girls and get the girl you want. I find that the absolute highest success rate comes from finding a fun waitress or two and buying them a drink. They get you going, keep your spirits up and help you out with the lovelies. I was in one of the big show bars on Fields (Atlantis? I can’t remember) last October, sitting by myself and being totally ignored, as the mamasan brought one girl after another for the inspection of a Japanese guy at the next table (who already had one girl with him). I got up and moved to another table, twenty feet away, and had two great waitresses, who couldn’t do enough to please me. And my takeout for the night was a gorgeous and spunky little spinner who kept me very happy for the next twelve hours.

(Although it must be said that the highlight of that trip was a spectacular five girl BJ in the corner of one of the Burgos bars in Makati. Talk about letting it hang out! Hehe! Well, and there was also…)

I’ll be back in late-April. And I’ll keep coming back. I can’t believe it’s still over a month away!!

Any Hole
03-19-09, 23:47
Yeah Genghois you are absolutley right, I always give good tips in the bars to the waitresses of my fav bars which are Dolls House, Crystal Palace, Blue/Golden Nile, and they always weed out the best girls for my taste, and I don't get the persistant lady drink pressure

When I say good tip I mean 200 peso or so, not much for me but a fortune for them from one punter.

I love AC I think it just gets better and better, the choice at xmas gone was awsome, it was just dripping with the attractive pussy.

Durring the day I supplement my time with a few dates on DIA.

Sammon
03-20-09, 14:04
Although you can just go to a bar and barfine a girl for 1300 pesos and take her to your room and have wild sex all night, this rarely happens.
Reasons
________

1. Every time you go to a bar you need to order atleast one drink. It is not
mandatory but the news spreads around pretty quickly that you are a
cheap wad.
2. The waitress will definitely have an attitude because no drink = no tip.
3. If you call a girl from the line up how do you break the ice without nursing
a drink?
4. If you do not order a ladies drink for her immediately the cash machine in
head will go off thinking there will be no tip.
5. All these girls are there not only to make money from barfine but also
from lady drinks. Besides I believe they have a quota to fill. Her job
depends on it unless she is georgeous.
Typical night romp will cost,
Min 4 drinks for you = 400 pesos
If you go for happy hour = 200 pesos.
Lady drinks- min 4 = 600 pesos.
Bar hopping drinks = 800 pesos
If you take her to a disco = 600 pesos
Buy food at night = 500 pesos
Buy breakfast = 400 pesos
Tip for the girl = 500 pesos

So a typica GFE night will cost with barfine = 4000-6000 pesos

Total for a day and night activities for you
including food, accomodation and fun = $150-$200 US minimum.

Poopbunny
03-20-09, 23:16
Although you can just go to a bar and barfine a girl for
Typical night romp will cost,
Min 4 drinks for you = 400 pesos
If you go for happy hour = 200 pesos.
Lady drinks- min 4 = 600 pesos.
Bar hopping drinks = 800 pesos
If you take her to a disco = 600 pesos
Buy food at night = 500 pesos
Buy breakfast = 400 pesos
Tip for the girl = 500 pesos


- I usually only have 1 drink (not 4) - 95p (rarely during happy hour)
- Lady drink - usually 1 or 2 (potential girl, sometime the waitress/mamasan if they give advice for selection) but could be more.
- I don't bar hop that much, I usually do a recon, walkout then go back to the bar with the girl I most likely want. At most 2 bars - 1 or 2 drinks.
- Disco - from memory Skytrax was only 150p
- Breakfast was about right for hotel room service at Lewis Grand
- Tip - yes 500 max (less or none if in the rare occasion I don't get sex in the morning)

plus
- 20p for the visiting peanut vendor
- 50p (each way) tip for the free car service hotel driver (still cheaper than crappy trike)

- for the girl on my last night and if she stays till the morning and gives good service, I transfer unused prepaid Smart SIM credits to her phone (which would otherwise expire before my next trip)

ThatGuy865
03-21-09, 01:13
1. Every time you go to a bar you need to order atleast one drink. It is not mandatory but the news spreads around pretty quickly that you are a cheap wad.

2. The waitress will definitely have an attitude because no drink = no tip.

3. If you call a girl from the line up how do you break the ice without nursing a drink?

4. If you do not order a ladies drink for her immediately the cash machine in head will go off thinking there will be no tip.

5. All these girls are there not only to make money from barfine but also from lady drinks. Besides I believe they have a quota to fill. Her job depends on it unless she is georgeous.

Typical night romp will cost,
Min 4 drinks for you = 400 pesos
If you go for happy hour = 200 pesos.
Lady drinks- min 4 = 600 pesos.
Bar hopping drinks = 800 pesos
If you take her to a disco = 600 pesos
Buy food at night = 500 pesos
Buy breakfast = 400 pesos
Tip for the girl = 500 pesos

So a typica GFE night will cost with barfine = 4000-6000 pesos

Total for a day and night activities for you including food, accomodation and fun = $150-$200 US minimum.Why do you include drinks for yourself. Thats not the ost for the woman. Guys would drink whether they P4P or not.

Most take the girl straight to the room and get busy. No bar hopping, no dinner, no disco.

Very few guys take their P4P to skytrax. You added that in like its the normal venue. If you ever went in there you'd realize theres very few mongers inside. Mainly locals and young "hip hop wanna be's" at that. Also you forgot about ST's where you can take a couple of hours to tag that ass, if you don't want to spend the night with the girl. For a mere 700 pesos = $15

I don't drink before usually 9pm or 10pm. Only because I'm a lite weight and can't drink alot. So I start later than most. You can call a girl to your table and yes buy 1 LD will do. Thats it, thats all. Some times I have bought 2. But not often, especially since I don't drink a lot and nurse my drinks. So we are talking $3 to $6.

I Often tell the babes to come to my room after their shift is over, so you don't have to pay the total bar fine. Or if they are irresistably fine. I will bar fine. 1300 pesos = $30 if they come by after the shift, I'll give them 500 to 700 pesos. = $15

Meal. Mention Jolibee's and they jump for joy $4. Or. Since I rarely eat in hotels, and know my way around the city. I know places for decent food for $5

Tip. I NEVER NEVER NEVER tip more than 200 to 300 pesos top.

Total night of bissfull entertainment, meal and tip comes to = $50 tops ROADDOG style.

I have many expat friends, we usually bar hop together and you won't see them blowing money like a tourist. I've learned from them. You don't have to try to impress these women with cash.

800 pesos, jolibees in their belly, along with sleeping in an air con room, and a hot shower is hitting the lottery for these girls. And believe me when I tell you. I have girls waiting for me each and every time I return. So they are just as happy as I am.

Now I'm not advocating this for everyone. But this is how Roaddog rolls when I'm in AC.

Rubberyman
03-21-09, 02:01
While I am not sure of Sammon's breakdown of prices (after all, everyone has different priorities), it is actually not a bad daily budget overall for someone coming to AC for the first time - and you will have a good time if you have a good attitude. Then as you get to know the place better, then Poopbunny's advice is good, and you can get an even better time for even less money. There are cheaper hotels, and cheaper eating places and some bars are cheaper than others etc etc. Of course expats living there are even better off. B@st@rds!

The other thing to note is that AC does not have much more than eating, drinking and dipping the pork sword. So at the risk of being called a restaurant owner, I advise you don't go into a restaurant unless you want to eat - that's what they are for. At the risk of being called a bar owner, don't go into a bar unless you want to drink - last time I looked, bars are drinking places. (note that going into a bar in your home town and not drinking might get you a reputation for being a bit strange, so don't be surprised that it is similar in other bars round the world. Just imagine if you went into a bar in your home town and when they asked if you wanted a drink you replied that they were scamming you to buy drinks - LOL).

That brings me to the question of pork sword dipping. I travel a bit, and have visited places where the bar owners force the ladies to 'go upstairs' with any client who pays. This is NOT the case in AC generally. In those places worldwide that do force the ladies to work nude and 'go upstairs' the prices are generally higher and often the ladies' attitude is mechanical and off putting at best. (Go check the Prague boards for examples and complaints of this).

This actually works in our favour in Angeles City. Since the ladies are not forced to work nude (and some are uncomfortable with that) or forced to go with any guy that happens to pick them, what it means is that if a lady agrees to go with someone, there is a very very much higher chance that they will give a true GFE compared with those mongering destinations that force them to take on all comers.

Thus those guys who are prepared to do a bit of hunting, and are prepared to treat the ladies with RESPECT will find many ladies amongst the thousands in AC who will give them a great GFE. Not only that, if you find someone you click with, they will agree to go off with you for extended barfines or see you after hours, or help you in all sorts of ways to make your time cheaper and better. (eg newbie help with mobile phones, purchasing stuff cheaper, finding particular shops etc etc).

Of course there are those guys who have no respect for the ladies and just wish to be able to go into a bar, point and fuck and leave. AC is not for these people because the ladies can 'see how you are' and don't care for you or your money. This lack of respect for the ladies will then manifest itself in them giving all sorts of excuses why not to barfine and to try to sucker as many drinks from the mug punter as possible.

Going into a bar with the attitude that 'they are all hookers or scammers' will get you nowhere in AC - Pinays are sweet, but smart and demanding of respect. You don't give it, you don't get it.

Amavida
03-21-09, 05:00
... I travel a bit, and have visited places where the bar owners force the ladies to 'go upstairs' with any client who pays. This is NOT the case in AC generally. In those places worldwide that do force the ladies to work nude and 'go upstairs' the prices are generally higher and often the ladies' attitude is mechanical and off putting at best. (Go check the Prague boards for examples and complaints of this).

This actually works in our favour in Angeles City. Since the ladies are not forced to work nude (and some are uncomfortable with that) or forced to go with any guy that happens to pick them, what it means is that if a lady agrees to go with someone, there is a very very much higher chance that they will give a true GFE compared with those mongering destinations that force them to take on all comers...

... Of course there are those guys who have no respect for the ladies and just wish to be able to go into a bar, point and fuck and leave. AC is not for these people because the ladies can 'see how you are' and don't care for you or your money. This lack of respect for the ladies will then manifest itself in them giving all sorts of excuses why not to barfine and to try to sucker as many drinks from the mug punter as possible...

...Going into a bar with the attitude that 'they are all hookers or scammers' will get you nowhere in AC...Very well said RM!
This is THE defining difference between PI & say LOS & most other places for that matter. Personally I cant stand the starfish sex of professional hookers. Give me a warm passionate woman any time.
AV

ThatGuy865
03-21-09, 14:04
First. Nakedness

What I'd like to know is why do you need the girls to be naked in the first place. These are not strip clubs. They are there for your entertainment and to take home for sexual pleasure.

I can tell whether I like a girls body if she is wearing a bikini just as well. She does not need to be buck naked. So why is that even an issue.

If you need strip clubs. Take your ass to the USA And get what I would call "ripped off". Paying your $20 to get in and another $20 for a 1 song lap dance.

Secondly. Drinks

Learn how to say "No". I have never seen anyone asked to leave a bar for buying only 1 drink. The girls will ask of course, its their job. But you can easily say "No" I've had enough. If you feel hassled. Move on. There are at least 100 bars within the next 10 blocks. I'm sure 1 will be happy to see you.

I often go in sit down, when the waitress comes I will tell them to wait. Give me a few minutes to see. They leave, of course come back and I order and no hassle. You can always buy a coke and let it sit if you don't want to drink. They will not ask you for another as long as it sits there.

Cherry girls

It is what it is. They don't hide the fact that they are cherry girls. Whenever you ask about them, the waitress, mamasan all will be quick to point out she is a cherry girl. So if you call her off stage to sit with you. Of course you should be willing to buy her a drink. Usually they are the shyest of the girls, will bearly talk, I have never had one try to upsell me on drinks. They usuall sit, stary eyed or giggling to their friends.

Lastly, I say if buying a drink for a women which amounts to $3 to $4 is too costly for you. Then keep you ass at home.

If you need to see women totally naked and a thong bikini is not skimpy enough to know whether you'd like to have sex with her. Keep your ass at home.

Thats the bottom line. I'd bet more guys are happy they made the trip than are not.

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Bob Down
03-21-09, 14:25
I am a drinker and part of going on holiday is to drink, so if buying a few lady drinks comes with the territory then so be it. I also watch other mongers and how they hunt. From the ones that sit down alone with a bottle of water, pick a girl, buy her a drink and do the interview then gone within half an hour. To the party animals that have a table full of girls. Each to their own, it is their money to do with as they please.

Buying drinks for waitresses what can I say, I like an older girl. Barfine more waitresses than dancers. If one likes to drink but doesn't like to pay lady drink prices, find the girl you want to spend the night with, barfine her then she is no longer working in the bar and she can no longer get ladies drinks. She can not make money from drinks once she has been barfined.

I know a waitress who makes her living from ladies drinks. She does not hassle guys for drinks but she looks after her customers. Unlike waitresses I have see in other bars she will sit with a customer and make sure he is looked after, enjoying himself by making sure he has a drink and helping him to pick a girl. She loves a conversation and this is how she make her ladies drinks, once she has a customer who likes to chat too it is only a matter of time before the customer will offer to buy her a drink. I am one of those customers.

She has a list of regular customers that barfine her for barhop only. I am not on that list. LOL. Yes once in a while she will go with someone she likes. Is she a scammer, NO, everyone has a choice. She is upfront when a customer asks to barfine her, she will reply barhop only.

Lastly she is no 18 year old cherry girl and doesn't pretend to be.

Oh here is something I found from a previous trip, no ladies drinks where bought in the making of this picture.

Mr Big Johnson
03-21-09, 15:51
RE: Bob Down Drinking Vacation

Bob,

Please pardon me if I have a hard time understanding that you have to go on vacation and fly to the Philippines to drink , lol, booze is after all available in any 7-11, on every corner, in almost all parts of the world for much less.

As far as you bar fining waitresses, the sad fact is that in AC you are stuck with bar fining them as anything that is worth paying for sex is only there to sell drinks, and they do not even show anything to get you excited about buying drinks as all nudity is illegal in Angeles City.

I really hate when I read a few posters that always spend countless posts just to try and defend the place instead of posting fact when someone reports a true situation. It just smells of, as previously stated by many posters, bar owners defending their own bs propaganda posts.

Otherwise there would be far more constructive things to do there I am sure, and you would not have time to waste just trying to get other guys to come to your town that I am sure you want word out as to not feel as if you would have to entertain so many woman alone right?

If we can not read the truth then we certainly don’t need to read lies!