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Naughty
03-31-10, 21:45
I just read a report at www.pattayaone.net/news that the tax on <12% alc. beverages was going to be raised by a further 20B per 100 ml!!! 40B/100 for the hard stuff.

Holy crap! That's over $3/liter, US, added to the already somewhat high price for brew in Siam.

Is this true? If so, tourism in the LOS is OVER!!!!

EDIT! I just realized it's now April 1, (not yet here though) in Pattaya!!!!

NYUK, NYUK!

I got punked!!!

Goyave
03-31-10, 23:14
... My advice to you, in particular if you are pussy conscious, avoid them. Don’t be attracted to them. They are frigid because they are taken out frequently and moreover, their pussies are useless, you will be digging in a wide hole. Go for plumpy and fattish ones who are never taken by Europeans; you will really enjoy having sex with them. Their pussies are tight and they quiver in your hands like fish out of water...

555! That's a good one! So, if I read correctly between the lines, you would like that all the other punters come here to fuck the fat ones, (and then, leaving the slim and sexy ones available for you alone?), and you believe that most of them are going to follow your advice? What kind of shaky argument is it? Nice try, but if it were true, everybody should rather stay at home and chase the ugliest girls: as almost nobody wants to fuck them, they surely have (according to you) the tightest pussies. Be careful though: if you succeed to start a new trend, even the fat and ugly ones will soon have a "wide hole" too instead of a nice and tight pussy! :D

Goyave
04-01-10, 00:02
... But, obviously you are a 'Pattaya Pro. ' Any new guys coming to town make sure you hook up with Rain Man to learn the Pattaya Ropes...

You don't have to be a "pro", you just need to have a functional brain and some common sense in order to fully and safely enjoy Pattaya and other red light districts in the Land of Smiles. Sure, if you act stupidly, you will get into trouble sooner or later. Everywhere, and not only with freelancers from Beach Road or Walking Street!

Granted, it might be a little bit safer with girls working in a bar for those who are sometimes too drunk (or born too dumb) to take a few basic precautions, but paying a barfine does not garantee you that you won't have any problem. Shit can also happen with go-go and bar girls. I already mentioned several sad stories that happened with girls picked up in bars in a previous report, but here's just one example: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/2768/cats-go-go-bar-raided-by-police-underage-employees-found/

There's plenty of good advices available in this forum and elsewhere for the newbies, so, just read them if you are new to the game in Thailand. The Land of Smiles is still a relatively safe place for mongering, even with freelancers (most of them are honest girls, the bad ones and the thieves are a very little minority), provided that you don't act like a fool.

Mart Cham
04-01-10, 04:28
On the Stickman site I've read about a certain police scam where they'll stop a foreigner at the bus station en route to or arriving from Pattaya and search bags: if they find Viagra or other drugs and the guy has no prescription for it, they threaten to take him to the station unless he pays his "fine" on the spot. I seem to remember also reading about a certain section of Sukhumvit where they might pull the same thing, but don't quote me. Anyone else remember reading that? It also could have been on another forum.
I was searched twice myself already in Ekkamai. Both times they asked for my passport but didn't even open it. Looks like the cover page is enough nowadays, I must come from a very important part of the world where every citizen is a VIP or something :) Anyhow:
The first time I enquired about their search and the guy explained to me that he was looking for viagra or other drugs. He found nothing.
The second time the officer found 1 1/2 kamagra pill. He explained to me that I could get into troubles, that I should get a prescription for next time but that the quantity found was small enough for him to let me go this time. He kept the stuff of course and I wished him a nice session at the arb ob nuat.

Mart Cham
04-01-10, 04:33
They are frigid because they are taken out frequently and moreover, their pussies are useless, you will be digging in a wide hole. Go for plumpy and fattish ones who are never taken by Europeans; you will really enjoy having sex with them. Their pussies are tight and they quiver in your hands like fish out of water.
Are you somehow saying that Arabs, Indians and black guys have small cocks?

Mart Cham
04-01-10, 04:37
You won't find these ladies in all bars; however, some bars do have one or two.
I know one gal in Pattaya who matches your specs and gets laid every other year. She would even pay you if you shag her (she's done it before). Interested? PM me...

Evianist
04-01-10, 05:24
Anyone been searched at Ekkamai and been found with actual vitamins? Would that be a problem?

I always travel with enough vitamins for a couple weeks.

Mart Cham
04-01-10, 06:18
Anyone been searched at Ekkamai and been found with actual vitamins? Would that be a problem?

I always travel with enough vitamins for a couple weeks.
Haven't read 3 posts back before asking?
Put them in a safe place before arriving at Ekkamai and you'll be okay. FYI the small pocket above the right pocket of your jeans isn't exactly safe, in fact it's probably the least safe place, it's the place they checked directly both times. 2nd was the pack of cigs.


I was searched twice myself already in Ekkamai. Both times they asked for my passport but didn't even open it. Looks like the cover page is enough nowadays, I must come from a very important part of the world where every citizen is a VIP or something :) Anyhow:
The first time I enquired about their search and the guy explained to me that he was looking for viagra or other drugs. He found nothing.
The second time the officer found 1 1/2 kamagra. He explained to me that I could get into troubles, that I should get a prescription for next time but that the quantity found was small enough for him to let me go this time. He kept the stuff of course and I wished him a nice session at the arb ob nuat.

Mart Cham
04-01-10, 06:24
Anyone been searched at Ekkamai and been found with actual vitamins? Would that be a problem?

I always travel with enough vitamins for a couple weeks.
Were you actually talking about normal vitamins like vitamin A, B, C, etc.?
If that's the case, that wouldn't be a prob. They know their stuff and they know what they are looking for. The second time they searched me I had many other kinds of pills in my bag (asthma medication, various antibiotics, etc.) and he didn't even look twice at them.

Simian
04-01-10, 07:31
Haven't read 3 posts back before asking?
Put them in a safe place before arriving at Ekkamai and you'll be okay. FYI the small pocket above the right pocket of your jeans isn't exactly safe, in fact it's probably the least safe place, it's the place they checked directly both times. 2nd was the pack of cigs.

Perhaps one of the Thai speakers on the forum could help us out here about exactly what the law says but it is certainly the case that being in possession with certain drugs without a prescription in Thailand will land you in trouble with the law. Another Thai forum that has nothing to do with the hobby had a story a few weeks back that a young falang guy was facing 1 year in prison for possession of 2 valium tablets without a prescription. But exactly which medicines will land you in trouble is not clear!

I have heard many different stories about what is and what is not against the law. Some medicines are supposed to be available on prescription only in Thailand even though they are not controlled that way in some European countries. Or course, many Thai pharmacies do not seek a prescription. But that is no defense.

We should all contact the Tourism Authority of Thailand and ask which drugs require a prescription in Thailand and express our concern about the fact that the police are shaking down tourists in this way. Write to your newspapers and TV stations at home and even to the Thai embassy. Perhaps they will then get the message that just like all the other scams that go on in Thailand, this one will hurt their tourist numbers.

Mart Cham
04-01-10, 08:02
Perhaps one of the Thai speakers on the forum could help us out here about exactly what the law says but it is certainly the case that being in possession with certain drugs without a prescription in Thailand will land you in trouble with the law. Another Thai forum that has nothing to do with the hobby had a story a few weeks back that a young falang guy was facing 1 year in prison for possession of 2 valium tablets without a prescription. But exactly which medicines will land you in trouble is not clear!

I happened to have such a list. Can't find it any more but shouldn't be a problem to get it.



I have heard many different stories about what is and what is not against the law. Some medicines are supposed to be available on prescription only in Thailand even though they are not controlled that way in some European countries. Or course, many Thai pharmacies do not seek a prescription. But that is no defense.

Pharmacies in Thailand are not allowed to sell them either. They probably pay the police for that privilege. So should everyone do if caught carrying prescription drugs.



We should all contact the Tourism Authority of Thailand and ask which drugs require a prescription in Thailand and express our concern about the fact that the police are shaking down tourists in this way. Write to your newspapers and TV stations at home and even to the Thai embassy. Perhaps they will then get the message that just like all the other scams that go on in Thailand, this one will hurt their tourist numbers.
Oh come on, it is not really a scam and most people caught with prescription drugs in Thailand without having a proper prescription have actually bought them in Thailand. They have absolutely no right to possess these drugs, neither in Europe nor in Thailand. In Europe we're more lenient and control the supply side much more than the demand side but that does not mean that it is legal to buy them without a prescription.
To me such a campaign is an exaggeration.

Mouse1
04-01-10, 09:54
Perhaps one of the Thai speakers on the forum could help us out here about exactly what the law says but it is certainly the case that being in possession with certain drugs without a prescription in Thailand will land you in trouble with the law. Another Thai forum that has nothing to do with the hobby had a story a few weeks back that a young falang guy was facing 1 year in prison for possession of 2 valium tablets without a prescription. But exactly which medicines will land you in trouble is not clear!Apologies if this is a stupid question, but... For medical history reasons I travel with a few days' supply of opiate-based painkillers. They would certainly be illegal in Thailand if obtained without a prescription. My doctor prescribed them to me as a one-off prescription, and in order to receive them I handed that prescription into the pharmacy, so now I have no record of the prescription (this is the UK we're talking about). How do I cover myself? This must happen to others. Would a letter (in English) from my GP be enough to fend off the attention of the local police? Any thoughts?

Goyave
04-01-10, 10:12
... How do I cover myself? This must happen to others. Would a letter (in English) from my GP be enough to fend off the attention of the local police? Any thoughts?

Why don't you go to a public hospital in Thailand (yes, foreigners can do that), explain your problem and get a prescription there from a local doctor? Public hospitals are really cheap in Thailand, even for foreigners, and it should not be very difficult to obtain the appropriate prescription, especially if you already know what you need.

Mart Cham
04-01-10, 11:17
Would a letter (in English) from my GP be enough to fend off the attention of the local police? Any thoughts?
A definite YES. Especially if u know that you have the right to possess such medicine. Stand your ground and keep this letter with you, no prob for sure.
FYI French prescriptions look like letters.

Mart Cham
04-01-10, 11:21
Why don't you go to a public hospital in Thailand (yes, foreigners can do that), explain your problem and get a prescription there from a local doctor? Public hospitals are really cheap in Thailand, even for foreigners, and it should not be very difficult to obtain the appropriate prescription, especially if you already know what you need.
I don't know which is the situation of Mouse1 but I wouldn't recommend a tourist to go to a public hospital if he can't speak Thai or isn't accompanied by someone who does. Been in several public hospitals and in none of them the staff, especially administrative, could speak English. Good luck with the registration as a patient if you can't explain your problem, fill out the registration form, etc.

Goyave
04-01-10, 12:43
I don't know which is the situation of Mouse1 but I wouldn't recommend a tourist to go to a public hospital if he can't speak Thai or isn't accompanied by someone who does. Been in several public hospitals and in none of them the staff, especially administrative, could speak English. Good luck with the registration as a patient if you can't explain your problem, fill out the registration form, etc.


Of course, if you don't speak Thai, it's better to go to a public hospital accompanied by someone who can help you (or at least with a dictionary), but it's not a big deal.

It is true that the administrative staff at public hospitals often don't speak much English (if any), but the doctors usually do. What they ask in the registration form is very basic information: given names, surname, age, current location (the address of your hotel is sufficient if you are a tourist). They usually will check your weight and blood pressure. If you can't explain what is your problem to the administrative staff, they would very likely fetch one available doctor who can speak English to help.

LittleBigMan
04-01-10, 14:08
Fellas, Fellas,Now here is what I would do since I have been doing it for sometime. I will only speak of want I know when it comes to the U.S., with your legal percription from the U.S. take the original bottle with all the percription information on the bottle medicine that you obtain from Thailand into this bottle. F.Y.I. I have been doing this for years knowing several former employee friends and managers that are top TSA people now. In regards to this God help us all because these guys that run TSA now particularly in California are some real stupid idiots.

When going through through TSA, they look at my plastic bag with my so call percription bottle and neve have I had a problem. They're TSA no Doctors!When I come check points in Tawian, Japan, Thailand never have I ever been question. Asthma inhalers with the original U.S box I get replacement in Thailand and put them into the original percription box. My friends who are retired in Thailand do the same thing with their Viagra etc... and put them in old bottles.

Now in regards to hospital that speak English... in all the years never have I gone to a hospital in Pattaya, Bangkok/Pattaya have I ever from day one had a problem speaking only English myself been unable to gain access from registering or unable to explain or understand what I needed to convey to a Thai Doctor. From my experience from Dental to emergency been able to speak to a Doctor.Cost... you can see a Doctor for example at Bangkok/Pattaya total cost to get a percription would be 550 baht. That is ten minutes of their time.. tell them just like a American Doctor " you have having a hard time getting it up " At our age who is going to challenge that! right there your percription, a small wait then to the pill counter and pay your standard tap along with the medication. Tell the lady you want a copy of the percription!* Keep it! Keep the bottle for the future! now you can buy more on the street and still it into the original bottle. Now you have everything when you are stop! Percentage these guys can't even read a passport! They are basically stupid IMHO!

When it comes to Vitamins, I have brought in 10 to 15 bottles of Vitamins of various types. Been stop at the check point once and pay the dickhead 500 baht. Majority of the time even when it goes through the scanner they don't know what they are looking for... When you pack... put some here and put some there never all in same area. I wrap bottles in my dirty stain underwear, my carry on has a zipper area in the bottom and I put case of condoms and etc... zip it up... then I pack all my clothes in... spreading my dirty boxers throughout. If they can put up with the stains and you can put up the laughter it might all be worth it just to get a few pills through!

O.K. guys give it a try!* LBM

Mouse1
04-01-10, 15:50
Fellas, Fellas,Now here is what I would do since I have been doing it for sometime. I will only speak of want I know when it comes to the U.S., with your legal percription from the U.S. take the original bottle with all the percription information on the bottle medicine that you obtain from Thailand into this bottle.

When going through through TSA, they look at my plastic bag with my so call percription bottle and neve have I had a problem. They're TSA no Doctors!When I come check points in Tawian, Japan, Thailand never have I ever been question. Asthma inhalers with the original U.S box I get replacement in Thailand and put them into the original percription box. My friends who are retired in Thailand do the same thing with their Viagra etc... and put them in old bottles.I kick myself for not thinking of this! Many thanks, you are a wise man. :)

(I don't think it would stand up in court but perfect for getting through customs or random searches, not that I have ever had problems with either.)

Mouse1
04-01-10, 15:56
I don't know which is the situation of Mouse1 but I wouldn't recommend a tourist to go to a public hospital if he can't speak Thai or isn't accompanied by someone who does. Been in several public hospitals and in none of them the staff, especially administrative, could speak English. Good luck with the registration as a patient if you can't explain your problem, fill out the registration form, etc.I suspect that it would not be easy as I carry strong pain-killers just in case of a recurrence of a problem I had several months ago. So I can imagine it would be difficult to get a prescription for something that I am not suffering from right now. And very difficult to get opiate-based painkillers.

Mouse1
04-01-10, 16:00
A definite YES. Especially if u know that you have the right to possess such medicine. Stand your ground and keep this letter with you, no prob for sure.
FYI French prescriptions look like letters.... and finally, I went round to my GP today (phoned at 10.25am and got an appointment for 11am; bless the NHS) and he understandingly gave me a fresh prescription with a note from him authorising me to carry the drugs).

And I agree, standing your ground with respect to medicines that are 'genuine' is pretty important.

Evianist
04-01-10, 16:42
Apologies if this is a stupid question, but... For medical history reasons I travel with a few days' supply of opiate-based painkillers. They would certainly be illegal in Thailand if obtained without a prescription. My doctor prescribed them to me as a one-off prescription, and in order to receive them I handed that prescription into the pharmacy, so now I have no record of the prescription (this is the UK we're talking about). How do I cover myself? This must happen to others. Would a letter (in English) from my GP be enough to fend off the attention of the local police? Any thoughts?


You don't need the hand-written prescription from the doctor, you need the bottle it comes in with the prescription info on it.

Mart Cham
04-01-10, 17:52
Of course, if you don't speak Thai, it's better to go to a public hospital accompanied by someone who can help you (or at least with a dictionary), but it's not a big deal.

It is true that the administrative staff at public hospitals often don't speak much English (if any), but the doctors usually do. What they ask in the registration form is very basic information: given names, surname, age, current location (the address of your hotel is sufficient if you are a tourist). They usually will check your weight and blood pressure. If you can't explain what is your problem to the administrative staff, they would very likely fetch one available doctor who can speak English to help.

You don't need the hand-written prescription from the doctor, you need the bottle it comes in with the prescription info on it.

Fellas, Fellas,Now here is what I would do since I have been doing it for sometime. I will only speak of want I know when it comes to the U.S., with your legal percription from the U.S. take the original bottle with all the percription information on the bottle medicine that you obtain from Thailand into this bottle.

When going through through TSA, they look at my plastic bag with my so call percription bottle and neve have I had a problem. They're TSA no Doctors!When I come check points in Tawian, Japan, Thailand never have I ever been question. Asthma inhalers with the original U.S box I get replacement in Thailand and put them into the original percription box. My friends who are retired in Thailand do the same thing with their Viagra etc... and put them in old bottles.

Now in regards to hospital that speak English... in all the years never have I gone to a hospital in Pattaya, Bangkok/Pattaya have I ever from day one had a problem speaking only English myself been unable to gain access from registering or unable to explain or understand what I needed to convey to a Thai Doctor. From my experience from Dental to emergency been able to speak to a Doctor.Cost... you can see a Doctor for example at Bangkok/Pattaya total cost to get a percription would be 550 baht. That is ten minutes of their time.. tell them just like a American Doctor " you have having a hard time getting it up " At our age who is going to challenge that! right there your percription, a small wait then to the pill counter and pay your standard tap along with the medication. Tell the lady you want a copy of the percription!* Keep it! Keep the bottle for the future! now you can buy more on the street and still it into the original bottle. Now you have everything when you are stop! Percentage these guys can't even read a passport! They are basically stupid IMHO!

O.K. guys give it a try!* LBM
All the doctors who have examined me at PUBLIC hospitals in Thailand spoke VERY basic English, so that we even switched to Thai sometimes. Administrative staff no English AT ALL.
In private hospitals that's a completely different story and the nurses are prettier.

I have never ever got medicine from Germany or France with any kind of legal prescription paper on the package. Probably a US thing.

Goyave
04-01-10, 18:33
All the doctors who have examined me at PUBLIC hospitals in Thailand spoke VERY basic English, so that we even switched to Thai sometimes. Administrative staff no English AT ALL.
In private hospitals that's a completely different story and the nurses are prettier...

I was speaking about public hospitals too, and according to my own experience, all the doctors that I've met there so far can speak a decent enough English (I agree with you that most of the administrative staff usually does not speak English or just a very little bit).

Of course, your mileage may vary, but IMHO, public hospitals are great at least for basic medical care... or if you want to have a rapid HIV test, for instance (it was only 300 baht the last time I've got one last year, and results were given within the hour).

Mart Cham
04-01-10, 18:48
I was speaking about public hospitals too, and according to my own experience, all the doctors that I've met there so far can speak a decent enough English (I agree with you that most of the administrative staff usually does not speak English or just a very little bit).

Of course, your mileage may vary, but IMHO, public hospitals are great at least for basic medical care... or if you want to have a rapid HIV test, for instance (it was only 300 baht the last time I've got one last year, and results were given within the hour).
We've definitely had different practitioners then. By the way I agree with you (although I wouldn't send a tourist friend there) that for basic medical care, they're just about perfect. Most of the time I was in and out within a couple of hours and a couple hundred bahts lighter only. I may or may not have to pay anything in a public hospital in Europe but if I'm done in only 4 hours I consider myself very lucky.
I don't think I would do a HIV test in there though. Dunno why.

Jack Rabbit
04-01-10, 22:43
Pattaya is much more violate and dangerous than I remember from over the years.

1. Went to Superbabys Go-Go which is famous for SP that cater to Japanese and Korean clients (which I am not). No language skills of SP (in English), but agreed to barfine with short time later (she told me 1.5) so we went to Lucifer for a quick drink. No problems at Lucifer (which usually also means not lady-boy), and returned to my hotel. At the hotel, she says "no boom boom for farang". I told her I paid the barfine and offered her the 1.5. She refused. We went back to Superbabys and I explained nicely to mamasan and waitress what had happened. I asked for SP who would do the short time, and offered to pay the difference. No dice. Spoke with manager who stated that I had to pay again bar fine and short time for different SP. Spoke to Japanese owner. He refused to talk with me (even after I bowed respectfully and spoke to him in Japanese). I waited patiently, they wouldn't budge so I left.

Spoke with security guard of my hotel, he indicated she was lady-boy (after I tipped him of course). On way back to walking street from hotel, saw Japanese manager outside, and nicely indicated that I worry sending my Japanese and Korean clients there (which is true) because of my previous issue, and possible ladyboys. He retaliated by taking a swing at me, grazing my forehead, followed by the Thai employees giving full frontal assault. Barely got away unscathed (small bruise and watch missing).

2. Went back hotel, cleaned up and changed. Determined not to let this ruin my night, I went out again to Lucifer. On my way, saw superhottie walking with another SP. She came over and offered me short time. We walked and talked and I explained previous situation that I didn't want ladyboy. She ensured me that if she was, I did not have to pay. I told her that my "brother" would be checking her id, and she didn't seem to worry. She made a quick stop for some lube (should of been first warning), and we went to hotel. Security guard gave green light. My spidey senses were still tingling, so I did the checklist a) no adams apple b) soft hair c) no extra rib d) hit like a girl e) no square shoulders f) working parts. I still wasn't satisified and realized something was up when tried to enter. Just finished myself off and send her packing (after reluctantly paying). I think she promised to give the security guard a cut, if he didn't sqwak.

3. Earlier that night, I went for regular oil massage (considered possible HJ). Massage provider gave lousy massage, asked to shower me, and gave me HJ. She asked for more money, which I declined saying just wanted massage. Older western woman my mother's age was next curtain over! Then provider starting kissing me, and asked me to kiss her breasts, and finger her. She took off her panties, put her weight on my arms pinning me and hopped on my member! I told her I wanted a condom. She started "boxing me" so I pulled out after a couple pumps and finished myself off. She wanted to lie together (to finish the hour) and asked me to be her boyfriend, meet her after her shift and go to my hotel. I just smiled, went downstairs paid masage fee, threw in 100BHT tip. At 7-11 saw stunning SP, while asking her name, my massage provider suddenly appeared, causing drama. Took her outside and offered her some money, she refused, and told me to meet her 1 hour. I said I would try and pretended to enter another closeby hotel.

I thought I was a seasoned expat in Asia here, but I think my mongering days in Pattaya is over . . .

LittleBigMan
04-02-10, 04:11
All the doctors who have examined me at PUBLIC hospitals in Thailand spoke VERY basic English, so that we even switched to Thai sometimes. Administrative staff no English AT ALL.
In private hospitals that's a completely different story and the nurses are prettier.

I have never ever got medicine from Germany or France with any kind of legal prescription paper on the package. Probably a US thing.


No one is asking anyone here to stop going to the hospital whether it is a public or private if it works for you or for whatever reasons cost etc...?

The suggestion since there was no mentioned of public or private was if you need a piece of paper so you can carry a specify medicine or just to beat the system by getting around the cops searches here. Then it's up to each individual how they are going to proceed. If I tired of all the B.S. I'll paid the little extra and go to a private hospital just to get what I need for the future. This is very similar to P4P sex... Go Go Bars, Walking Stree Go Go's or Beach Road?

Do what you got to do to see someone that speaks better English to get the paper documents. Even in a public hospital without speaking they should know what you need. Pull down you zipper, pull out your thing, and place then limp thing on the counter, you will get lots of laughs but you just might get your documents. I'm pretty sure they will know your problem without you ever saying a word?

LBM

Amjeck
04-02-10, 05:01
I've found that the 18-21 yo girls are difficult to negotiate down from 700ST to 500ST on soi 6. Are any others having this same difficulty?

Not really a big deal, but I want to see where the market is at.

Wendella
04-02-10, 05:11
You don't need the hand-written prescription from the doctor, you need the bottle it comes in with the prescription info on it.

Are you sure that would suffice? I guess to be safe, might want to just have those prescriptions on hand, just in case. I only say that cuz here in Vietnam, plenty of times when I showed the papers that supposedly were all that was needed, was told that actually I needed something else too, which of course I didn't have. Of course it's all just part of the shakedown script they all know by heart. ("This is not the original document, we need to see the original" -- "But the pharmacy keeps the original, if I had the original I couldnt' have the drugs" "That's your problem. We need the original." Chico Marx would have made a great Thai or Vietnamese cop.)

Mouse1
04-02-10, 07:17
I've found that the 18-21 yo girls are difficult to negotiate down from 700ST to 500ST on soi 6. Are any others having this same difficulty?

Not really a big deal, but I want to see where the market is at.Interesting. I have never tried to negotiate. Since I'm always asked for 700Bht I assumed that it was a standard rate, like the 500/1000/150Bht in oilies. I guess everything is negotiable, but I would worry about demotivating the girl for the sake of 100Bht or so.

Evianist
04-02-10, 07:52
Are you sure that would suffice? I guess to be safe, might want to just have those prescriptions on hand, just in case. I only say that cuz here in Vietnam, plenty of times when I showed the papers that supposedly were all that was needed, was told that actually I needed something else too, which of course I didn't have. Of course it's all just part of the shakedown script they all know by heart. ("This is not the original document, we need to see the original" -- "But the pharmacy keeps the original, if I had the original I couldnt' have the drugs" "That's your problem. We need the original." Chico Marx would have made a great Thai or Vietnamese cop.)

I'm sure if they're just looking for a payday then you're out of luck no matter what you have.

Mart Cham
04-02-10, 10:29
No one is asking anyone here to stop going to the hospital whether it is a public or private if it works for you or for whatever reasons cost etc...?

The suggestion since there was no mentioned of public or private was if you need a piece of paper so you can carry a specify medicine or just to beat the system by getting around the cops searches here. Then it's up to each individual how they are going to proceed. If I tired of all the B.S. I'll paid the little extra and go to a private hospital just to get what I need for the future. This is very similar to P4P sex... Go Go Bars, Walking Stree Go Go's or Beach Road?

Do what you got to do to see someone that speaks better English to get the paper documents. Even in a public hospital without speaking they should know what you need. Pull down you zipper, pull out your thing, and place then limp thing on the counter, you will get lots of laughs but you just might get your documents. I'm pretty sure they will know your problem without you ever saying a word?

LBM

Errm, you haven't read correctly... Originally I was just answering a post recommending people to go to a PUBLIC hospital and I was saying that I wouldn't recommend that to tourists. Period.

Mart Cham
04-02-10, 10:32
I've found that the 18-21 yo girls are difficult to negotiate down from 700ST to 500ST on soi 6. Are any others having this same difficulty?

Not really a big deal, but I want to see where the market is at.
Just wait a bit. From April 20th to November 1st, not very difficult anymore :)

Mart Cham
04-02-10, 10:42
Pattaya is much more violate and dangerous than I remember from over the years.

1. Went to Superbabys Go-Go which is famous for SP that cater to Japanese and Korean clients (which I am not). No language skills of SP (in English), but agreed to barfine with short time later (she told me 1.5) so we went to Lucifer for a quick drink. No problems at Lucifer (which usually also means not lady-boy), and returned to my hotel. At the hotel, she says "no boom boom for farang". I told her I paid the barfine and offered her the 1.5. She refused. We went back to Superbabys and I explained nicely to mamasan and waitress what had happened. I asked for SP who would do the short time, and offered to pay the difference. No dice. Spoke with manager who stated that I had to pay again bar fine and short time for different SP. Spoke to Japanese owner. He refused to talk with me (even after I bowed respectfully and spoke to him in Japanese). I waited patiently, they wouldn't budge so I left.

Spoke with security guard of my hotel, he indicated she was lady-boy (after I tipped him of course). On way back to walking street from hotel, saw Japanese manager outside, and nicely indicated that I worry sending my Japanese and Korean clients there (which is true) because of my previous issue, and possible ladyboys. He retaliated by taking a swing at me, grazing my forehead, followed by the Thai employees giving full frontal assault. Barely got away unscathed (small bruise and watch missing).

2. Went back hotel, cleaned up and changed. Determined not to let this ruin my night, I went out again to Lucifer. On my way, saw superhottie walking with another SP. She came over and offered me short time. We walked and talked and I explained previous situation that I didn't want ladyboy. She ensured me that if she was, I did not have to pay. I told her that my "brother" would be checking her id, and she didn't seem to worry. She made a quick stop for some lube (should of been first warning), and we went to hotel. Security guard gave green light. My spidey senses were still tingling, so I did the checklist a) no adams apple b) soft hair c) no extra rib d) hit like a girl e) no square shoulders f) working parts. I still wasn't satisified and realized something was up when tried to enter. Just finished myself off and send her packing (after reluctantly paying). I think she promised to give the security guard a cut, if he didn't sqwak.

3. Earlier that night, I went for regular oil massage (considered possible HJ). Massage provider gave lousy massage, asked to shower me, and gave me HJ. She asked for more money, which I declined saying just wanted massage. Older western woman my mother's age was next curtain over! Then provider starting kissing me, and asked me to kiss her breasts, and finger her. She took off her panties, put her weight on my arms pinning me and hopped on my member! I told her I wanted a condom. She started "boxing me" so I pulled out after a couple pumps and finished myself off. She wanted to lie together (to finish the hour) and asked me to be her boyfriend, meet her after her shift and go to my hotel. I just smiled, went downstairs paid masage fee, threw in 100BHT tip. At 7-11 saw stunning SP, while asking her name, my massage provider suddenly appeared, causing drama. Took her outside and offered her some money, she refused, and told me to meet her 1 hour. I said I would try and pretended to enter another closeby hotel.

I thought I was a seasoned expat in Asia here, but I think my mongering days in Pattaya is over . . .

Don't get it...
1. OK, sounds strange but possible. Can't imagine SuperBaby with katoeys though but haven't been there for years.
2. You see someone completely naked, even have the beginning of sexual intercourse with that someone and can't tell if she's a girl or a katoey?!?!? And this "girl" knows all the security guards in Pattaya who in turn know that they get a cut of her fee?
3. So weird that I hardly believe it. If the story is true, you must have omitted quite a few events/details.

Amjeck
04-02-10, 10:49
Can't imagine SuperBaby with katoeys ......
So weird that I hardly believe it.........
Agree, the story sounds a lot like fiction!

Mart Cham
04-02-10, 10:52
Interesting. I have never tried to negotiate. Since I'm always asked for 700Bht I assumed that it was a standard rate, like the 500/1000/150Bht in oilies. I guess everything is negotiable, but I would worry about demotivating the girl for the sake of 100Bht or so.
A few months ago, standard price on soi 6 was still 500 ST+300 room. Can't remember when girls started asking for 700 but it's not so long ago, maybe a year...

Amjeck
04-02-10, 11:37
standard price on soi 6 was still 500 ST+300 room.
Do you include attractive 18-21, non-mothers in that "standard" price? I'm just wondering if there is a higher tier pricing system for the better meat these days.

Betong
04-02-10, 12:02
Can't remember when girls started asking for 700 but it's not so long ago, maybe a year...I first came across it maybe a year and a half ago. At first it was just the hottest girls but soon it began to expand to others. And fair enough. It'd been B500 for a long while, and prices on everything else have risen meanwhile. Still a bargain.

LittleBigMan
04-02-10, 13:38
Errm, you haven't read correctly... Originally I was just answering a post recommending people to go to a PUBLIC hospital and I was saying that I wouldn't recommend that to tourists. Period.


MC,

Then certainly you deserve my apologises! For reading wrong!

LBM

Jack Rabbit
04-02-10, 13:45
Agree, the story sounds a lot like fiction!

I further questioned the security guard, and perhaps he misunderstood my question. Perhaps that is why the Japanese manager flipped out when I mentioned ladyboy. Strangely, in the light she had broad shoulders and what looked like an Adams Apple. Regardless, she agreed to the short time, and then reneged. Still wary of that place due to the physical assault.

As for other story, I think the SP was post-op. Her pussy would not close after withdrawal. Just didn't feel right, so I gave up, and sent "her" packing.

Mart Cham
04-02-10, 22:21
I further questioned the security guard, and perhaps he misunderstood my question. Perhaps that is why the Japanese manager flipped out when I mentioned ladyboy. Strangely, in the light she had broad shoulders and what looked like an Adams Apple. Regardless, she agreed to the short time, and then reneged. Still wary of that place due to the physical assault.

As for other story, I think the SP was post-op. Her pussy would not close after withdrawal. Just didn't feel right, so I gave up, and sent "her" packing.
Still not convinced, sorry.


MC,

Then certainly you deserve my apologises! For reading wrong!

LBM
No problem, happens;)


Do you include attractive 18-21, non-mothers in that "standard" price? I'm just wondering if there is a higher tier pricing system for the better meat these days.
Betong has already answered your question but yes, I include attractive 18-21 girls. Actually I don't usually ask unattractive, old mothers how much they charge. To be honest, there are not so many attractive, 18-30 y.o. girls (an attractive girl who is 30ish is still attractive to me) on soi 6 and I do not indulge each time I stroll down the soi.

Wendella
04-03-10, 07:13
I further questioned the security guard, and perhaps he misunderstood my question. Perhaps that is why the Japanese manager flipped out when I mentioned ladyboy. Strangely, in the light she had broad shoulders and what looked like an Adams Apple. Regardless, she agreed to the short time, and then reneged. Still wary of that place due to the physical assault.

As for other story, I think the SP was post-op. Her pussy would not close after withdrawal. Just didn't feel right, so I gave up, and sent "her" packing.

Sounds to me like you're paranoid about this issue and seeing it where it isn't.

Try this:
Take the test (http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php )

Mart Cham
04-03-10, 07:24
Sounds to me like you're paranoid about this issue and seeing it where it isn't.

Or try this:
Take the test (http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php )
Yep, agree with Wendella, you're being paranoid (if you're not just being a troll). You should relax a little bit. And FYI Jack Rabbit, the best way to find out if a girl is a katoey is to assess attitude, behaviour. I find the only physical traits that really tell something, and that's in 90% of the cases only, are the voice and the size of feet/hands. There still are girls with big hands/feet and katoeys without but it's less common than girls with broad shoulders and katoeys without Adams apple.

Nvslim
04-03-10, 11:13
As for other story, I think the SP was post-op. Her pussy would not close after withdrawal. Just didn't feel right, so I gave up, and sent "her" packing.




An old black man in the American South told me years ago that when he first got married, he delighted in holding his wife's pussy lips open and watching them slam shut. Now her holds them shut and watches them pop open.

Slim

Nvslim
04-03-10, 11:19
Try this:
Take the test (http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php )



Got 9 out of 10 right. Took the test just to see if the cuties in #8 and #10 were girls. Both were. Other wise I could be in real trouble one of theses days.

Slim

Brastrav
04-03-10, 12:49
Got 9 out of 10 right. Took the test just to see if the cuties in #8 and #10 were girls. Both were. Other wise I could be in real trouble one of theses days.

SlimGot 10 out of 10. Amazing, especially if you know that I never been into places like Patong and Pattaya. Beginner's luck?

Mike

Natty Bumpo
04-03-10, 13:55
Got 9 out of 10 right. Took the test just to see if the cuties in #8 and #10 were girls. Both were. Other wise I could be in real trouble one of theses days.SlimI took the test. I scored 7 out of 10 correct, but I am not worried. I spotted all the Katoey. I messed up falsely identifying a couple ladies as men. False positive. It is better to error on the side of caution.

Wendella
04-03-10, 16:49
Got 9 out of 10 right.

Slim

Shhhh! Don't tell them! ;-)

Member #2041
04-03-10, 16:55
Sounds to me like you're paranoid about this issue and seeing it where it isn't.

Try this:
Take the test (http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php )
Happily, 10 out of 10.

Mr Enternational
04-03-10, 18:42
1. Went to Superbabys Go-Go which is famous for SP that cater to Japanese and Korean clients (which I am not). No language skills of SP (in English), but agreed to barfine with short time later (she told me 1.5) so we went to Lucifer for a quick drink.

2. Went back hotel, cleaned up and changed. Determined not to let this ruin my night, I went out again to Lucifer. On my way, saw superhottie walking with another SP. She came over and offered me short time.I'm like the other mongers. I'm not getting it. Why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to Lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht? That is like going to Lolita's, finding a girl there, and taking her over to Devil's Den. Just doesn't make sense. Then the second time you were heading back to Lucifer and got sidetracked. Why didn't you just cut out the middle man and bar fines and just get a girl from Lucifer for a flat 1000 baht since you were frequenting the place anyway?

Mr Enternational
04-03-10, 18:55
Following on with the perils of the Beach Road and Walking Street theme.

1. Walking along the Beach Road at around 3. 00 in the morning. A group of Girls and Lady Boys approached. They joked, and at the same time, appeared to frisk me. As it was the end of the evening and, I had little money left, I ignored this and went back to my hotel. Next morning, looking in the mirror, I realized my gold chain had gone.

2. Around 1. 00 in the morning walking in the Walking Street. A Lady Boy persuaded me to go with her down a small side street and into a vacant construction site with the promise of a BJ. Inside the construction site I was forced to surrender the entire contents of my wallet.This guy is pulling our dicks. Beach Road/Walking Street is not Soi 6. Meaning: On Beach Road and Walking Street the SWs are passive. They don't just approach you like Aussie Stu is saying. They sit back and wait for you to come up to them. Now Soi 6 is a bit different. The bar girls are agressive. They will jump up, run circles around you, hug you, walk down the street with you and try to get you to come fuck their ass.

And what are you doing walking around Pattaya with a wallet anyway? (I won't even mention the gold chain.) Now, I've never robbed anyone, but if I was to do it I would not waste time on making them give me the contents of their wallet. I would just take the whole damn thing and worry about the contents later.

Mart Cham
04-03-10, 18:56
I'm like the other mongers. I'm not getting it. Why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to Lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht?
Some guys are unable to score at places like Lucifer. Don't ask me why, I don't know, age and looks I suppose or they just don't feel so much at ease in 'normal' clubs...


Then the second time you were heading back to Lucifer and got sidetracked. Why didn't you just cut out the middle man and bar fines and just get a girl from Lucifer since you were frequenting the place anyway?
I think Mr Rabbit was talking about his hotel's security guard, not the ones at Lucifer.

Goyave
04-03-10, 21:21
This guy is pulling our dicks...
Maybe, but...


Beach Road/Walking Street is not Soi 6. Meaning: On Beach Road and Walking Street the SWs are passive. They don't just approach you like Aussie Stu is saying.
... this part of his story is plausible. He spoke about ladyboys, and although it's true that usually the real girls are most of the time passive on Beach Road and Walking Street, I've often noticed on Beach Road a group of ladyboys acting just like Aussie Stu wrote in his report.

Jack Rabbit
04-04-10, 03:44
I'm like the other mongers. I'm not getting it. Why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to Lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht? That is like going to Lolita's, finding a girl there, and taking her over to Devil's Den. Just doesn't make sense. Then the second time you were heading back to Lucifer and got sidetracked. Why didn't you just cut out the middle man and bar fines and just get a girl from Lucifer for a flat 1000 baht since you were frequenting the place anyway?

Simple. It was before 12pm (around 10pm), Lucifer was dead and other Go-gos had NO talent (e.g. Club Boesche, Toyz, XO, etc.)

Wanted a quick pop before picking up the freelancers in Lucifer, especially with the lighter skin Thais that usually work at Superbaby.

I took her to Lucifer to make her more comfortable with me, since I could tell she doesn't go with many farangs (limited English). It also gave me a chance to scope out what was coming in, so I could come back after when I was finished with her. Which was a good thing that I did, because it set up my final night with the best GFE ever in the LOS from a SP who was from Laos (who had seen me dancing in Lucifer and liked my style :)

For the record, I have spoken with various expats who all informed me that Superbabys never included the Short time Fee with the Bar fine previously (as for as long as I can remember too). I know of very few Go-go's that actually have this policy. Always pay the girl directly for services. Hence, why I made the previous posts to warn others.

Moreover, I have noticed both in Bangkok and Pattaya that it is more challenging to determine the katooeys (which is why I usually only go for petite women). However, even in the previous account, the SP passed all the tests (yes including small hands and feet, and less tall). BTW, I scored perfect 10 out of 10 on the test. I always err in the side of caution, which probably explains why I was so baffled that I got played.

Time to put this issue to rest, I regret that I didn't play things differently (like speaking to the Mamasan on the phone while in my hotel room, and offer to pay the SP directly), however, she made it pretty clear in the room, "no farangs boom boom". I just hate wasting money and time (only had 2 days to play). I do not want to be labelled as those "nice guys" who barfine the girl to "hang out" with no boom boom. Met quite a few of those . . .

Mart Cham
04-04-10, 04:35
For the record, I have spoken with various expats who all informed me that Superbabys never included the Short time Fee with the Bar fine previously (as for as long as I can remember too). I know of very few Go-go's that actually have this policy
WTF?!?!? Superbaby is wellknown for this policy and it's been going on for years. I once wanted to barfine a girl there, that was in 2007, and when they informed me that I had to pay bar + fee on the spot, I informed them that they would have to do without my business.

The Scout
04-04-10, 08:15
And what are you doing walking around Pattaya with a wallet anyway? (I won't even mention the gold chain.) Now, I've never robbed anyone, but if I was to do it I would not waste time on making them give me the contents of their wallet. I would just take the whole damn thing and worry about the contents later.

In the last year, I haven't had any problems walking around with a wallet in SE Asia. As long as you're street smart and you're not going into dark alley's with a ladyboy maybe you'll be okay. I don't carry a credit card and I carry a copy of my passport. And I only carry enough cash that I will spend when I'm out.

Chains draw attention for sure. I used to have a $5 stainless steel chain with something attached. Girls would be interested in it all the time, touching it, asking what it is, etc. At first I thought it was an ice breaker, but later I got rid of it.

I wear a watch sometimes because it prevents me from taking out my phone so often.

Amjeck
04-04-10, 12:47
I'm like the other mongers. I'm not getting it. Why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to Lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht? That is like going to Lolita's, finding a girl there, and taking her over to Devil's Den. Just doesn't make sense.
I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.

Wendella
04-05-10, 06:25
I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.

Maybe some guys enjoy a wider variety of activities than you do. That should be pretty easy to understand, that not everybody likes exactly what you like.

Referring to Mr Enternational's comment, seems like cost is his top priority. For some here I'm pretty sure it's not.

Jack Rabbit
04-05-10, 12:08
I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.

Not all of the higher end SP will agree for boom boom (unless perhaps you want to pay substantial bank). Especially locals on holiday, wanting to make some extra bank, they can choose who they want to service (even go-go's often give the SP a choice). Sometimes you gotta put in a little time, buy a couple drinks with her friends, etc.

All women judge a man by who they are with. If any woman (SP) or otherwise sees you with a superhottie, she will think you got money, looks, and perhaps charm/humour. Of course, you may not be their target THAT DAY, but you could be the following day. And trust me, they remember. I guarantee my Laosian hottie, would not have agreed to meet up, if I didn't play this game. I saw guys chase her down numerous times, and she rejected them flat out. In the end, she never asked me for a dime (obviously has a few sponsors), however of course I gave her some "shopping money", which was actually less than if I had paid for services rendered.

DG69
04-05-10, 20:14
All women judge a man by who they are with. If any woman (SP) or otherwise sees you with a superhottie, she will think you got money, looks, and perhaps charm/humour. Of course, you may not be their target THAT DAY, but you could be the following day. And trust me, they remember. I guarantee my Laosian hottie, would not have agreed to meet up, if I didn't play this game. I saw guys chase her down numerous times, and she rejected them flat out. In the end, she never asked me for a dime (obviously has a few sponsors), however of course I gave her some "shopping money", which was actually less than if I had paid for services rendered.


Is it possible that you have low self-esteem? It's true in Asia, girls are more into prestige and money than in Europe. But, to buy a prostitute to get seen with her, in order to impress other prostitutes is a funny thought.

Amjeck
04-05-10, 20:39
I don't understand that either, but I think a lot of guys want to be seen with there girls ha ha, they are prostitutes, I been saying it long enough, to many bottom feeders, hand clutchers, people will never learn. Get them to the room and do the business, simple as.
I guess everybody is different and has different objectives.

I must admit that I feel a bit sorry for some of those fellas when I see them treating the same prostitute, that I had before him, as if she is someone special. Only if he knew the things that I and many others did with her before.

Nowrath
04-05-10, 23:32
I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.

Perhaps , that every guy you see with a girl , maybe the girl is not in the game or a prostitute??

I have taken my massage girl to the movies, and go cart racing.

The mindset you have and others is pretty limited if all you can come up with is "take her to the room and fuck" mentality of every couple you see together.
Now granted you did say "sex workers", but again I must stress that every thai girl with a farang is not a sex worker.

Nowrath

Mr Enternational
04-06-10, 07:48
Perhaps , that every guy you see with a girl , maybe the girl is not in the game or a prostitute??
I have taken my massage girl to the movies, and go cart racing.Speaking of which....I met a girl a couple of years ago in the street on Pattaya Klang. A couple of days later I saw her working in the massage spot that I was frequenting at the time. I have pictures of her from both encounters. Over the past two years I have been thinking to myself why didn't I ever ask her out. Actually I know why. It is because at that time I had a TG in Pattaya who worked right inside of the mall that I met this chick in front of.

Last month I was walking back from the dive shop and saw the same girl working at a different massage spot. I told her that I remembered her and had the pictures on my computer to prove it. She said that she remembered me as well from her last job. I told her that I would be back later. I had been diving all day and needed to go to the hotel to freshen up and grab my scooter.

When I returned to the massage shop a couple of hours later the lady who owned the place said that if I wanted to go out with the girl I would have to pay her (the owner, whose farang boyfriend happened to be in town) for the girl to leave work. I'm like what the fuck. When did legitimate massage places start having bar fines? I told her that I would just wait until a time she is not working to go out with her. The lady still insisted. I finally just left because I didn't want to make trouble for this girl. I've never paid a bar fine at a bar. I damn sure am not about to pay one at a massage parlor. What is the deal with this? Did the owner just take me to be a stupid farang or something?

Run Mann
04-06-10, 09:19
I've never paid a bar fine at a bar. I damn sure am not about to pay one at a massage parlor. What is the deal with this? Did the owner just take me to be a stupid farang or something?

First time I heard this concept it blew me away too but I've learn that it's quite the norm in many shops. When a MP girl is absent from work she has to pay a fee to the owner unless she is sick or on a medical appointment. Some MPs girls pay (or their sponsor pay) a hefty fee to be absent from work for a week or more when their sponsors come to town. The idea is to compensate the shop for revenue (loss) which she would have (potentially) generated if she was not taken out of the shop.

Amjeck
04-06-10, 13:32
The mindset you have and others is pretty limited if all you can come up with is "take her to the room and fuck" mentality of every couple you see together.
Now granted you did say "sex workers", but again I must stress that every thai girl with a farang is not a sex worker.

Nowrath
Yes I did say "sex worker", and when you've been here long enough it's easy to tell who is/was a pro and who is not.

Nowrath
04-07-10, 00:15
Yes I did say "sex worker", and when you've been here long enough it's easy to tell who is/was a pro and who is not.

Born and raised there were you?

Labeling is pretty easy ,when you already have your mind made up.

Granted yes,if you have been too all the gogo's and bar's and know every lady by sight, it would be easy .

But that is neither here nor there.
The statement reminds me of the travel channel when a foreigner has spent years researching a tribe of people , and is now a expert on that culture , when there is a 90 year old native man sitting there right out of camera range grinning.

We never know as much as we think , even about the country we were born in

But your point was well taken

Nowrath

Wendella
04-07-10, 09:33
Born and raised there were you?

Labeling is pretty easy ,when you already have your mind made up.

Granted yes,if you have been too all the gogo's and bar's and know every lady by sight, it would be easy .

But that is neither here nor there.
The statement reminds me of the travel channel when a foreigner has spent years researching a tribe of people , and is now a expert on that culture , when there is a 90 year old native man sitting there right out of camera range grinning.

We never know as much as we think , even about the country we were born in

But your point was well taken

Nowrath

Nowrath, if I was going to place a bet on which of you or Amjeck would be able to pick out who's working and who's not more accurately, my money's on Amjeck. You do realize there's ways to spot them, right ? You wouldn't need to know each one personally to have a good idea if she's a working girl or not. So your final statement about not knowing as much as we think might apply more to yourself than to Amjeck in this case at least (and possibly to your Discovery channel example too). But to go out there and have your default position for everyone you see be that you have no idea which they are, that's just dumb. Maybe that's not what you meant, and if so, sorry. No offense meant. But if someone is there for years partaking of the scene, and sees them day in day out, yes of course there's ways to be able to tell. Different subject, but case in point: the Test I posted a ways down here. A new guy I know got 7 of 10. Local expats got 9 or 10 out of 10. You shouldn't bet against experience. Usually you'll lose that battle.

Pita123
04-07-10, 10:50
I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.
Some of us treat them as people, not sperm repositories. It typically provides us with a better experience, and pleasant company. As surprising as I find it, I have a few girls chasing me. I asked one what it is that she likes about me. Why me? She says because I don't look down on her and treat her nice.

Jack Rabbit
04-07-10, 13:22
Is it possible that you have low self-esteem? It's true in Asia, girls are more into prestige and money than in Europe. But, to buy a prostitute to get seen with her, in order to impress other prostitutes is a funny thought.

Trust me, low self esteem is something I don't have. However, when I have limited time, I want to make sure I get the best quality SP available, and best bang for my buck. Not all SP's will agree to go with you. The higher end ones tend to be more selective (especially the younger ones). If you say otherwise, then I question your Expat status. . .

El Frances
04-07-10, 19:08
Trust me, low self esteem is something I don't have. However, when I have limited time, I want to make sure I get the best quality SP available, and best bang for my buck. Not all SP's will agree to go with you. The higher end ones tend to be more selective (especially the younger ones). If you say otherwise, then I question your Expat status. . .

I think you underestimate the ability of these girls to sense people. They perfectly know who's smart or not, wether you are with a pretty girl or not. If you are a creep and come with a pretty girl, it'll not change anything.

DG69
04-07-10, 19:18
Trust me, low self esteem is something I don't have. However, when I have limited time, I want to make sure I get the best quality SP available, and best bang for my buck. Not all SP's will agree to go with you. The higher end ones tend to be more selective (especially the younger ones). If you say otherwise, then I question your Expat status. . .

Who say I am an expad? I were a expad in Saudi-Arabia, Asserbaidschan, Spain, Italy and UK, but never in Thailand. Though I were many times in Thailand on holidays. Often 3 weeks and more. Last time I spend 2 months on holiday in Thailand. So, I know a little bit about freelancer and bargirls.
It's true some of the younger pretty freelancer, with sponsors in the background, will mostly go with younger guys.
I don't speak from the beachroad girls, but from the higher tier Club girls. It's true if you are known as a big spender and expensive girls are around you, you might impress them. Though is this result worth all those effort? If they are too proud to consider you as a client, than you will most likely not get a good service.

Nowrath
04-08-10, 00:20
Nowrath, if I was going to place a bet on which of you or Amjeck would be able to pick out who's working and who's not more accurately, my money's on Amjeck. You do realize there's ways to spot them, right ? You wouldn't need to know each one personally to have a good idea if she's a working girl or not. So your final statement about not knowing as much as we think might apply more to yourself than to Amjeck in this case at least (and possibly to your Discovery channel example too). But to go out there and have your default position for everyone you see be that you have no idea which they are, that's just dumb. Maybe that's not what you meant, and if so, sorry. No offense meant. But if someone is there for years partaking of the scene, and sees them day in day out, yes of course there's ways to be able to tell. Different subject, but case in point: the Test I posted a ways down here. A new guy I know got 7 of 10. Local expats got 9 or 10 out of 10. You shouldn't bet against experience. Usually you'll lose that battle.


I would bet that you should save your money and continue spotting them the way you and Amjeck do, ok.
It wasn't a battle I was in or worth fighting for.
Being a professional "experienced" sex worker spotter ,hmm I'll keep my day job.

No apology needed because I'm not naive or dense, Been to Thailand probably more then 13 times, just find it humerous of all the wealth of knowledge on spotting the known worker.

would love to be able to post pictures of the 12-15 year old girls going to school and the 20 year old sex workers in my town , and let you guys pick who is who .


The lady boy test was easy 10 out of 10 , I know you won't believe but it is very simple in person and photo's , the jawline always gives them away .
No matter how petite, a male jawline differs from a female

So happy spotting , I'll just steer clear and tell my massage gals to cover their cleavage

Nowrath

Nowrath
04-08-10, 00:25
Some of us treat them as people, not sperm repositories. It typically provides us with a better experience, and pleasant company. As surprising as I find it, I have a few girls chasing me. I asked one what it is that she likes about me. Why me? She says because I don't look down on her and treat her nice.

No surprise Pita , I don't do the gogo or bargirls anymore, but the massage gals ask the same thing .
Why spend time with me?
Because your fun and enjoyable company.
I have a friend that is retired there now , 4 years so when I come , he invites the sister or friend of who he is living with to visit .
We always hit it off, sometimes there is sex, sometimes not.
Like the massage gals doesn't matter.
Just nice people .
Nowrath

Kermit2048
04-08-10, 06:28
By an amazing series of circumstances I was able to get to Thailand for just over a week without Mrs K2k. I booked a taxi service to take me straight to Pattaya (1, 000 baht) and checked in to the Pasadena Lodge. I was happily surprised when I found out that it is not possible to leave the hotel without passing either Lolitas or Devils Den.

Quantity doesn't work for me any more so I decided to devote the trip to variety, going after as many different categories of sex worker as possible. I did not pursue this as rigourously as I could have, but I still managed to enjoy myself.

I have come to the conclusion that you ony need two things to get laid in this town:

1. Cash

2. A pulse

Fortunately, I have both, so I was not disappointed.

Day 1

Feeling quite tired after a 12 hour flight I decided that a massage might relieve the aching muscles. I found a parlour after about a 5 minute walk from the hotel. Actually, this is not true. Several parlours found me, almost as soon as I left the hotel. If there are health-giving benefits to having a massage then you might think that residents of Pattaya would be among the healthiest on the planet.

Not wishing to fall into the first parlour I encountered I chose to do a little reconnaissance of the neighbourhood to try and determine which would offer me the best service. After seeing about a dozen, I concluded that there was nothing obvious that I could use to differentiate between the offerings. The one I eventually chose (sorry, I can't remember the name or location) only stood out because it seemed to be the cheapest. 199 baht for one hour oil service, while the prevailing rate seems to be 250-300. I didn't choose it because of the price, but because I was attracted by one of the ladies outside. Just my luck, she was not working there, just visiting her friend, who was significantly less visually appealing. I guess I should have walked at this point, but by this stage I was well and truly ready for my massage and decided to stay.

I started with a very welcome shower. I needed this, even though I'd had one just before I left the hotel. Then it was on to the mattress on the floor for the massage. I found it a little disappointing, because it was a reasonable massage but with no attention to the genital area. Just as I was seriously wondering whether the lady was into special services or not, she grabbed me quite firmly and asked what would I like. We agreed 1,000 baht for a blow job and also to cover the 199 baht for the massage, or so I thought. She did a decent BBBJ followed by CIM and I was a happy man. Then she finished up the time with a bit more massage and I paid her the agreed amount. On the way out the cashier stops me and asks for the 200 for the massage. I point to the masseuse to indicate that she has it, but all she says is "you pay, you pay". This I did, grudgingly, and then left feeling decidedly ripped off. Leaves a rather nasty taste in the mouth, as the masseuse might have said (sorry, couldn't resist it),

Later on, returning to the hotel, I was tempted by the Lolitas ladies in their school uniforms. I picked one quite attractive one from outside and in we went. "You want drink? " she asked, but was more than happy to go straight upstairs when I said no. I was impressed by the room, although I was disappointed by the lack of mirrors on the ceiling. All the walls have them, so why not above, too? The lady did a reasonable BBBJ but no CIM so I just paid 700 baht and left.

Day 2

After a day on the beach I decided to check out what Beach Road had to offer about 5pm. There was no shortage of talent, but few stunners. I eventually got talking to Rose, a 23 year old spinner, dressed in knee high boots, tight shorts and top. She has a rose tattoo on her upper arm, in case there is any doubt about her name she just points to it. She also wears her hair quite short. Above the shoulders. Which seems very unusual for a Thai girl, despite the heat. The offer was 500 for ST or 1200 for LT, which meant staying until 2am, according to her. I opted for ST and she took me to her preferred hotel, just off Beach Road. The room was very basic, but at 100 baht I couldn't complain. After we had showered together Rose asked me if I had a condom, which I didn't. Neither, apparently, did she, so I settled for a mechanical BBBJ. No CIM offered. As soon as she cleaned me up she started getting dressed, so short time to her meant one pop.

Later that night I was returning to Pasadena Lodge and again felt the magnetic pull of Lolitas. Picked a different girl and went upstairs with her. The BJ started well, but then she started applying too much hand action. I batted her hand away and she resumed her work. After a bit, the hand action recurred and I had to bat it away again. This happened three times and I was beginning to get irked. So the fourth time I stopped her completely, looked her in the eye and said "Do it how I like and I'll pay you 1, 000 baht". Well, money talks and she listened. The hand disappeared. She slowed down. "You like? " she asked several times to check she was doing it right, which she was. She almost rimmed me, which was pretty good considering that I was sitting on the couch. She gave a five star performance and took my load in her mouth. 1, 000 baht well spent, in my view.

K2k

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Shansawy
04-08-10, 12:02
Sounds to me like you're paranoid about this issue and seeing it where it isn't.

Try this:
Take the test (http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php )8 out of 10 , nice training to sharpen your skills

Desperate Deano
04-08-10, 13:36
Today my friend (still have one) dragged me down to Soi 6. He likes it there. I don't.

We found a bar. He went upstairs pretty sharpish. I stayed downstairs and had a good chat with the girl trying to get me to go upstairs. She went through the normal list of things that she would do for me and, the things I could do to her. She finished up by saying that if I made her come I would not have to pay her. I asked her how I would know that she had come. She told me I would see as she would have water.

I didn't take her upstairs to check. Like so many of the girls these days she was just a bit to fat for me.

Many years ago I did experience a squirter (I am not even sure if this is the correct word for it) and, It didn't really do anything for me. I just wondered how many other members had come across this before and, if anybody really enjoys it, I can pass on more details about the girl and the bar.

If this has already been discussed I am very sorry. I am new to this as everybody knows.

Member #3427
04-08-10, 23:05
If it were your first trip to Thailand and you had just 5 days to take in the beauty of the city, beaches, relaxed environment and beautiful women would you recommend a person go to Pattaya or Phuket? Any additional information is greatly appreciated.

Natty Bumpo
04-09-10, 01:53
If it were your first trip to Thailand and you had just 5 days to take in the beauty of the city, beaches, relaxed environment and beautiful women would you recommend a person go to Pattaya or Phuket? Any additional information is greatly appreciated.Pattaya is not beautiful and its beach is polluted. Only a few crazy Russians go swimming there. But it has more than 10,000 women who will want to have sex with you, sexy man.

Phuket is an overdeveloped beach resort (IMO it was much nicer 30 years ago), but the beaches are still pretty and clean. It has only a fraction of the bars and women Pattaya has, but you will definitely hook up with girls there.

In other words, the decision is up to you. Do you want to swim and relax on some nice beaches and then later go to town visit some bars and get laid? Or, do you want to concentrate on girls and drinking and nothing else?

Beaches and girls or girls and more girls. That is the choice.

GregLondon
04-09-10, 02:32
If it were your first trip to Thailand and you had just 5 days to take in the beauty of the city, beaches, relaxed environment and beautiful women would you recommend a person go to Pattaya or Phuket? Any additional information is greatly appreciated.


If you have been anywhere vaguely decent you are not going to be very impressed by the Pattaya beaches of the "beauty of the city". Phuket is an overpriced European package holiday spot.

Come to Pattaya for the overabundance of affordable girls, great accommodation and food options and you wont be disappointed

Run Mann
04-09-10, 03:06
If it were your first trip to Thailand and you had just 5 days to take in the beauty of the city, beaches, relaxed environment and beautiful women would you recommend a person go to Pattaya or Phuket? Any additional information is greatly appreciated.

For all that, go to Hua Hin

Member #3428
04-09-10, 05:44
Today my friend (still have one) dragged me down to Soi 6. He likes it there. I don't.

We found a bar. He went upstairs pretty sharpish. I stayed downstairs and had a good chat with the girl trying to get me to go upstairs. She went through the normal list of things that she would do for me and, the things I could do to her. She finished up by saying that if I made her come I would not have to pay her. I asked her how I would know that she had come. She told me I would see as she would have water.

I didn't take her upstairs to check. Like so many of the girls these days she was just a bit to fat for me.

Many years ago I did experience a squirter (I am not even sure if this is the correct word for it) and, It didn't really do anything for me. I just wondered how many other members had come across this before and, if anybody really enjoys it, I can pass on more details about the girl and the bar.

If this has already been discussed I am very sorry. I am new to this as everybody knows.

Why don't you list which bar. There's a squirter at Sexy Bar (Sexy In the City) who floods the bed regularly with me. But she speaks almost NO english so doubt it's the one you are talking about unless you speak Thai.

I actually know three girls on soi 6 who have squirted while I've been eating them. Also know some that like to slap and be slapped, some that love anal, some that love three somes etc... Just gotta know what to look for, when to look for them, and how to look for them. Most these girls you won't find sitting out front too often.

For me eating them to get a face full of juice is interesting but I can take it or leave it.

Sushilover808
04-09-10, 05:52
Aloha All!

This is my first trip to Pattaya. I arrived last night and was truly amazed at what goes on in Walking Street. There were many people offering live sex shows with a cover charge that started at 500 baht but quickly went down to as little as 200 baht.

I did read the forum and saw that Babydolls is the place to go. I have 2 questions: 1) Is Babydolls still the place to go to watch a live sex show or is there a better place? 2) What cover charge should I pay, if any at all.

I'm staying at the Discovery Bay hotel. If anyone wants to meet up tonight for a drink to scope out the action tonight, please PM!

Thanks in advance for your help!

Daddy07
04-09-10, 06:03
...I actually know three girls on soi 6 who have squirted while I've been eating them... For me eating them to get a face full of juice is interesting but I can take it or leave it.
Now, here's a question for all you scientists and Dr. types out there ... just exactly what is this female squirt juice, anyway, and where does it squirt from? Is it merely an abundance of normal pussy lubricating juice? Is it some kind of female semen? Is it pee? (I think it's pee)

Tansak, old man, are you letting those girls pee on you? :D

Desperate Deano
04-09-10, 06:18
Why don't you list which bar. There's a squirter at Sexy Bar (Sexy In the City) who floods the bed regularly with me. But she speaks almost NO english so doubt it's the one you are talking about unless you speak Thai.

I actually know three girls on soi 6 who have squirted while I've been eating them. Also know some that like to slap and be slapped, some that love anal, some that love three somes etc... Just gotta know what to look for, when to look for them, and how to look for them. Most these girls you won't find sitting out front too often.

For me eating them to get a face full of juice is interesting but I can take it or leave it.Actually - we only spoke Thai.

Member #3428
04-09-10, 06:23
Tansak, old man, are you letting those girls pee on you? :D

It's actually been a debated topic over the years. It is not purely urine but many reports state it is similar to, but not exactly the same. Since it is coming from the urethra area it has to have or should have similar properties.

It's unique to say the least, and the one girl there can squirt multiple times it is amusing to see her spasm. What I've had shot on me by her surely is not pee, and I've had a few golden showers in my time so I'd say I'm qualified to distinguish the difference :D ...

Goyave
04-09-10, 06:29
Now, here's a question for all you scientists and Dr. types out there ... just exactly what is this female squirt juice, anyway, and where does it squirt from? Is it merely an abundance of normal pussy lubricating juice? Is it some kind of female semen? Is it pee? (I think it's pee)...

I'm not a physician and I can't answer to all of your questions, but according to my own experience with a few "squirters", it's certainly not pee. It does not smell like pee and the color is not yellowish, it's just colorless, like water. I think that it's just "an abundance of normal pussy lubricating juice", but I'm not a medical expert on that matter.

Desperate Deano
04-09-10, 07:49
I'm not a physician and I can't answer to all of your questions, but according to my own experience with a few "squirters", it's certainly not pee. It does not smell like pee and the color is not yellowish, it's just colorless, like water. I think that it's just "an abundance of normal pussy lubricating juice", but I'm not a medical expert on that matter.Yep - that sounds like it. The girl this happened with for me, remember she wasn't Thai, was very thankful afterwards. Much more so than the ones who make all the noises and, could be faking it.

By the way. Think the Thai medical explanation of this is 'Nahm Tuap'

El Frances
04-09-10, 08:24
Aloha All!

This is my first trip to Pattaya. I arrived last night and was truly amazed at what goes on in Walking Street. There were many people offering live sex shows with a cover charge that started at 500 baht but quickly went down to as little as 200 baht.

I did read the forum and saw that Babydolls is the place to go. I have 2 questions: 1) Is Babydolls still the place to go to watch a live sex show or is there a better place? 2) What cover charge should I pay, if any at all.

I'm staying at the Discovery Bay hotel. If anyone wants to meet up tonight for a drink to scope out the action tonight, please PM!

Thanks in advance for your help!

There are a few gogos with shows (one is in the same street as Babydoll, opposite side of the street, a little before if I remember well). There's no charge, only your drinks (it is fair to tip the girl if you play with her, i.e. put your finger in pussy). I would stay away from touts asking for cover charge. I never tried but it looks like rip-offs. If you google gogo bar reviews, gogo bar guides, etc... you'll find some websites giving a lot of info.

Sushilover808
04-09-10, 09:18
There are a few gogos with shows (one is in the same street as Babydoll, opposite side of the street, a little before if I remember well). There's no charge, only your drinks (it is fair to tip the girl if you play with her, i.e. put your finger in pussy). I would stay away from touts asking for cover charge. I never tried but it looks like rip-offs. If you google gogo bar reviews, gogo bar guides, etc... you'll find some websites giving a lot of info.

I Googled "gogo bar reviews pattaya" and found a listing of the many bars. I couldn't find anything that specifically mentioned sex shows. Anyway, I'll be haeding over there tonight about 9 pm in search of a good sex show. I'll report back tomorrow.

Anyone else have an opinion?

aloha, sl

Pro Fesseur
04-09-10, 09:39
you'll find some websites giving a lot of info.Such as this website, for instance: http://www.thai-anxiety.com/gogo.asp
It's a great resource of information for Pattaya nightlife.

Desperate Deano
04-09-10, 10:32
I Googled "gogo bar reviews pattaya" and found a listing of the many bars. I couldn't find anything that specifically mentioned sex shows. Anyway, I'll be haeding over there tonight about 9 pm in search of a good sex show. I'll report back tomorrow.

Anyone else have an opinion?

aloha, slMany places put on shows that are quite well choreographed. I like Angel Witch located in one of the small streets off Walking Street.

Mr Enternational
04-09-10, 20:33
I'm not a physician and I can't answer to all of your questions, but according to my own experience with a few "squirters", it's certainly not pee. It does not smell like pee and the color is not yellowish, it's just colorless, like water. I think that it's just "an abundance of normal pussy lubricating juice", but I'm not a medical expert on that matter.Neither am I a chef, but I can tell you that it doesn't have a pleasant flavor!

Nhill76
04-10-10, 01:03
Aloha All!

This is my first trip to Pattaya. I arrived last night and was truly amazed at what goes on in Walking Street. There were many people offering live sex shows with a cover charge that started at 500 baht but quickly went down to as little as 200 baht.

I did read the forum and saw that Babydolls is the place to go. I have 2 questions: 1) Is Babydolls still the place to go to watch a live sex show or is there a better place? 2) What cover charge should I pay, if any at all.

I'm staying at the Discovery Bay hotel. If anyone wants to meet up tonight for a drink to scope out the action tonight, please PM!

Thanks in advance for your help!Yo go to Pattaya Street Club and Lucifers. Lot of girls there who just want some attention and will go with you all nite long and only will want money for a cab in the morning.

Lapworks
04-10-10, 02:08
Hi everybody!

I am going to pattaya first time, in a xouple of weeks. Whats the going rate for goldenshowers both ways. and how about bdsm?

Sushilover808
04-10-10, 03:45
There are a few gogos with shows (one is in the same street as Babydoll, opposite side of the street, a little before if I remember well). There's no charge, only your drinks (it is fair to tip the girl if you play with her, i.e. put your finger in pussy). I would stay away from touts asking for cover charge. I never tried but it looks like rip-offs. If you google gogo bar reviews, gogo bar guides, etc... you'll find some websites giving a lot of info.
I went to the bar opposite Babydoll, up a small flight of stairs. There was a 200 baht cover charge that included 1 drink. There were 3 stages. The first had 2 panty clad girls dancing, the next a soap show, and on the back bed type area there was a totally naked girl. No sex show or other show. I only stayed about 15~20 minutes. Not recommended.

ThaiLearner
04-10-10, 08:01
I went to the bar opposite Babydoll, up a small flight of stairs. There was a 200 baht cover charge that included 1 drink. There were 3 stages. The first had 2 panty clad girls dancing, the next a soap show, and on the back bed type area there was a totally naked girl. No sex show or other show. I only stayed about 15~20 minutes. Not recommended.


I have never been asked to pay a cover charge in any bar or go go in Pattaya.

Do you pay a cover charge in every bar or go go you go in?

11Bravo
04-10-10, 09:09
Kermit2048: Might be a 1-poster, but obviously a player. Great post.
Very fun read; thanks. Look forward to hearing about the rest of your week.

Bonzo1
04-10-10, 11:06
saw this message on Pattaya addicts forum, but I'm not a senior member there so I can't read the report. Anyone know the story? Just curious.

Daddy07
04-10-10, 11:56
saw this message on Pattaya addicts forum, but I'm not a senior member there so I can't read the report. Anyone know the story? Just curious.
Here it is ... enjoy:

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/04/09/american-arrested-in-pattaya-pornography-scandal/

http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/17865/suspected-american-porn-producer-arrested-by-police-in-pattaya/

Bonzo1
04-10-10, 14:14
Here it is ... enjoy:

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/04/09/american-arrested-in-pattaya-pornography-scandal/

http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/17865/suspected-american-porn-producer-arrested-by-police-in-pattaya/

Very interesting. Anyone knew this guy?

The "official story" is of course crap. One of the people commenting below the second article said pretty much exactly what I suspect happened (below)...I suspect several girls got together in a scheme against him. That said, it was a pretty obvious risk he was taking from the git go, and the drugs and weapon are just insane.

More relevantly, how do people these days feel about the risks of photoing/filming (for totally private use)?

-B-


"My guess is that some of those girls (perhaps by suggestion from their friends or families) decided to take “advantage” of the legal issues in Thailand relating to porn and started blackmailing him. After he finally got fed up and told them/her to get lost, she/they complained and the guy got busted"

Amjeck
04-10-10, 14:18
Yo go to Pattaya Street Club and Lucifers. Lot of girls there who just want some attention and will go with you all nite long and only will want money for a cab in the morning.
Please explain more about this.

El Frances
04-10-10, 15:01
Yo go to Pattaya Street Club and Lucifers. Lot of girls there who just want some attention and will go with you all nite long and only will want money for a cab in the morning.

For me Taxi money was a 1000 Bath bill!

El Frances
04-10-10, 15:09
I have never been asked to pay a cover charge in any bar or go go in Pattaya.

Do you pay a cover charge in every bar or go go you go in?

Same for me. I'm not so interested in shows so Im not a specialist. I just followed some friends. I went to babydoll, to another place with two floors (nothing on second floor), with girls licking each other in a bath, etc... and another bar with a bath at the end with a girl allowing you to put your finger up it, etc... I don't remember the names.

LukeSkyWanker
04-10-10, 18:51
I will be visiting again for about 7-8 days after Songkran has finished, Songkran is ok once only then never again. Any members wants to meet up for a few beers and a tour round town let me know.

May the force be with you.

David 2
04-10-10, 19:26
Hi everybody!

I am going to pattaya first time, in a xouple of weeks. Whats the going rate for goldenshowers both ways. and how about bdsm?
I'll be happy to give you one in person for 2500 BHT. Or I could just mail you a specimen for 1500 BHT.

Piper1
04-10-10, 19:53
I'll be happy to give you one in person for 2500 BHT. Or I could just mail you a specimen for 1500 BHT.
Don't trust David2 - I took up his offer last month, and for my 1500Bt he sent me a small plastic container of beer. Same thing happened when I sent him another 1500Bht last week.

Nhill76
04-10-10, 22:43
Please explain more about this.I was in Pattaya a month ago. We went to the little gogo bars to warm ourselves up but once it got later in the nite, we went to these two clubs and picked up girls there. Both of the girls I got in these clubs were wildcats in bed and were hot as hell. In the morning, both girls told me that they didn't want my money, they just wanted me but ultimately I ended up giving the first one the standard rate for a cab rid. The second one didn't want any money at all but she was so ridiculously gorgeous and sexy that I did break her off a 1000 baht bill cause I had a shit toon of baht that I was going to have to take to get exchanged in a few hours anyhow. I seriously thought about going UA from my ship and stay in Thailand with this chick. She gave me her number and I may see her again at the end of the year as I'm planning to spend new years in Pattaya.

Wendella
04-11-10, 06:36
Don't trust David2 - I took up his offer last month, and for my 1500Bt he sent me a small plastic container of beer. Same thing happened when I sent him another 1500Bht last week.

Looks like you got the SM thrown in for free. ;)

Amex Spg
04-11-10, 10:45
I've been a long time lurker and fortunate to learn tons from senior/other members on ISG (thank you all). This is for all the newbies (as I once was). I apologize if this includes any inaccuracies, but I tried to vet all the info based on what I've read, experienced and researched (www.Urbandictionary.com is also really useful).

Soi = Street (so Soi 6 is usually parallel to Soi 7)

Short Time (ST) = 1 x pop or 2 hrs, whichever comes first

Long Time (LT) = 1 x pop + sleep + 1 x pop (eg go with her to your place, shag, sleep, then shag in the morning before her departure)

Go-Go ("A-Go-Go" is the local term) = gentlemen's club, escorts are nude or scantily dressed, sometimes there's a show (either stripper style, Vegas cabaret-ish or banana/ping-pong/dart type)

Beer Bar = bar where the employees are escorts and dressed normal for a night out

Sex Massage = Turkish Bath (= Japan's Soapie Massage) = she baths the patron + massages him with her figure + BJ + shag

Freelancer = streetwalker (but can also be found in the disco/danceclubs, regular restaurants, malls, etc = working independently (currently not affiliated with a Go-Go/Beer Bar/etc or off-duty)

Amateur = occasional freelancer (eg hair stylist/cashier/student but is willing to go with a patron)

Bar Fine = Fee = amount paid to the business (Go-Go, Beer Bar, etc) allowing patron to employ the escort for short/long time services; term also used as a verb eg "they're leaving because he bar fined her"

Short Time Room = approx 2 hr room rental costing about Baht 300 ($9)

"Smoke" = BJ (some escorts don't know what either "smoke" or "blowjob" means)

Finish = completion of services of climax

2) Pattaya Terminology (not relevant to Bangkok)

Soi 6 = street with mostly cathouses = Baht 300 ($9) bar fine which includes use of a short time room upstairs + Baht 500 ($15) or Baht 700 ($21) to the escort for short time services = Baht 700 or Baht 1, 000 for the whole shebang

Beach Road Girl = freelancers/amateurs who work the strand running along Pattaya beach

BJ bar (Bangkok probably has some) = places where escorts specialize in BJ's and may not even offer intercourse; at Lolita's the Baht 700 ($21) covers everything (= bar fine + short time room + fee to the girl)

3) Hierarchy (from most expensive/best looking to the least); below are approx Pattaya prices whereas Bangkok is Baht 500 ($15) or Baht 1, 000 ($30) more for the escort's services

Go-Go Showgirls = Bar Fine Baht 600 ($18) + ST Baht 1, 500 ($45) or LT Baht 2, 500 ($75)

Go-Go Girls (non-showgirls) = Bar Fine Baht 500 ($15) + ST Baht 1, 000 ($30) or LT Baht 2, 000 ($60)

Beer Bar = Baht 300 ($9) bar fine + ST Baht 800 ($24) or LT 1, 500 ($45)

Freelancer = ST Baht 500 to 1, 000 ($15. $30) = LT Baht 1, 000 to 2, 000 ($30. $60)

Beach Road Girl = ST Baht 500 ($15) = freelancers more amenable to additional patron requirements (CIM, nude photos/filming, three-holer.)

Separate category since these escorts also serve as an masseuse: Sex Massage = Baht 2, 000 ($60) = use of the facilities and she baths the patron + massages him with her figure + BJ + shag

4) Misc

-Attractiveness = there are ugly Go-Go showgirls and there are hot freelancers, so looks vary dramatically

-Safety = escorts from a business (Go-Go, etc) are licensed (must be min 18 y/o, have regular STD testing); a freelancer doesn't answer to a mamasan or any boss

-Payment = pay to the escort is usually at the end of ST/LT (as patron and/or escort are headed out the door)

-Business Terms = everything's negotiable and an escort is not obligated to provide a service (CIM, anal, 3 x pops during ST, etc) if it wasn't agreed upon beforehand, but her pay can be docked if she does not hold up her end of an agreement (eg provides no morning pop even though the deal was for LT services)

-Tipping = rarely given but if service was exceptional some patrons give the escort Baht 100. 300 ("taxi money" is usually Baht 100)

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Monopoly
04-11-10, 22:00
Beer Bar = Baht 300 ($9) bar fine + ST Baht 800 ($24) or LT 1, 500 ($45)I have always found beer bar prices to be:

BF= 200-300 B, ST= 500B LT= 1000B

Goyave
04-11-10, 23:11
...Short Time (ST) = 1 x pop or 2 hrs, whichever comes first

Short time duration greatly varies depending on the place and/or the provider. In a local brothel, the standard ST duration is about 30-45 minutes only. Many freelancers in Pattaya and Bangkok for instance would consider that 1 hour is the maximum duration of a ST session with them, while for certain freelancers and girls picked up from certain locations, 3 hours and multiple pops with the provider are possible. One should ask the provider about this matter (and about the things that you want to do with her during the session) before making any deal.


.. BJ bar (Bangkok probably has some)...

Yes. Lolita's (on Sukhimvit Soi 8) is one of them, but there are a few others (such as Star of Light on Patpong 2, for instance).

A list of the BJ bars in Bangkok can be found here: http://www.sukhumvit-psycho.com/other-places/bj-bars/

Mr Enternational
04-12-10, 06:33
This time I arrived in Pattaya in the morning. About noon I met up with some friends and we took a walk down Beach Road to check on some clothes they were having made. By mid afternoon I still hadn't had anything to take the edge off. As we walked back to Soi 8 I found something in front of Royal Garden. We went over to PS Guesthouse on Soi 13/1 next to Starbucks for ST. The room was 100 Baht and I gave the girl 400 baht. She was a cool chick. No rush and good service.

After we fucked we laid around a while shooting the shit. She was telling me how crazy some mongers were for the services they wanted.

pics in foto section 1008515

Santij
04-12-10, 07:14
Hello,

I am planning to take one day break journey in Bangkok and hit Pattaya.

Is it really good idea to go Pattaya or can I get same thing in Bngkok (I mean clubs for drinking and sex)?

If I want to go Pattaya, any recommendations on where to stay and which club to go and how to commute? Is Penthhouse a good option? It looks they have everything at one place.

By the way I been to Tijuana many times, are Pattaya/Bangkok clubs similar?

Thanks

It Travel
04-12-10, 16:06
This service is easy to find among providers over 30 - perhaps 10-20% do so provide. For quite a few of them it is their big selling point that keeps them busy despite not looking so good anymore.

Under 25 it is so rare as to be almost nonexistent (as we all know girls under 25 are not very common in the business anymore, even for ordinary service). If you're lucky you might find one in that 25-30 sweet spot who can do the Third Way. Keep looking!

I am always planning a trip to Thailand... some more infos or some Info how to obtain anal friendly girls apart the advertized Devil's Den...

thanks

IT

El Frances
04-12-10, 16:37
I've been a long time lurker and fortunate to learn tons from senior/other members on ISG (thank you all). This is for all the newbies (as I once was). I apologize if this includes any inaccuracies, but I tried to vet all the info based on what I've read, experienced and researched (www.Urbandictionary.com is also really useful).


Great job! I would correct the FL LT price which is 1000 in most of the case. Also attractiveness, you're right but in most of the cases the pretty girls are in Gogos.
Safety: nothing is 100% safe. I met a 19 yo girl in a Gogo who told me she worked there before but has stopped during 2 years before coming back to work (Hmm! 19-2=?)

Amex Spg
04-13-10, 10:26
Hello,

I am planning to take one day break journey in Bangkok and hit Pattaya.

Is it really good idea to go Pattaya or can I get same thing in Bngkok (I mean clubs for drinking and sex)?

If I want to go Pattaya, any recommendations on where to stay and which club to go and how to commute? Is Penthhouse a good option? It looks they have everything at one place.

By the way I been to Tijuana many times, are Pattaya/Bangkok clubs similar?

ThanksIn Bangkok the three main P4P areas are Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza and Patpong night market (which are only a few BTS stops from each other, or you could even walk from one location to the next). Those areas have a good concentration of Go-Gos, plus beer bars. For body massage/sex massage/Turkish bath, around Prince Hotel (about Baht 100 taxi ride) are a dozen or so fish-bowl places, with 10. 40 women per fish-bowl.

-I prefer Pattaya, and to stay on Walking Street (my next choice would be the Soi 7 area due the proximity to Soi 6 and the beer bar concentration at Soi 7 and 8). On Walking Street there's www.galaxysuitespattaya.com, www.Diamondbeachhotel.com or www.swissfood.net.

-For disco clubs, from 2300-0200 try Candy Shop or Lucifer, from 0200-0300 Marine, and 0300-0800 Insomnia. For Go-Go clubs my three favorites are Superbaby, Supergirl and AirPort. I think Peppermint (next to Marine disco) has the most quantity of girls, and also Beach Go-Go. Iron, Roxy and Baccara are also pretty good.

Bramley Boy
04-13-10, 13:26
This time I arrived in Pattaya in the morning. About noon I met up with some friends and we took a walk down Beach Road to check on some clothes they were having made. By mid afternoon I still hadn't had anything to take the edge off. As we walked back to Soi 8 I found something in front of Royal Garden. We went over to PS Guesthouse on Soi 13/1 next to Starbucks for ST. The room was 100 Baht and I gave the girl 400 baht. She was a cool chick. No rush and good service.

After we fucked we laid around a while shooting the shit. She was telling me how crazy some mongers were for the services they wanted.

Pics in foto section 1008515I have been sitting on the outside reading the postings and, I don't normally have the urge to reply but, in this case I feel I have to.

I am sure that the Chick from the Beach Road is a very nice girl. Maybe she has three kids in the village and, is doing her best to support them. I am OK with this.

But, what I am not OK with, is the message this sends to the rest of the world. Maybe she helped you with your 'edge' but, I am sure people who might be coming to Pattaya or, thinking about coming to Pattaya, are now on edge. As I said, she is probably a very nice girl but, at best, she is a 2 out of 10 and, from what I can make out of the room, this is a 1 out of 10.

OK, I understand that you had had edge that needing massaging but, did you really need to show the pictures?

My message to all the guys out there is:

Don't worry. You should be able to find some sevens to nines in Pattaya. Maybe the odd ten. You can also find rooms of a much better quality. I am following the Penthouse thread and could well be giving this a try at the end of the month.

Pytheas Mars
04-14-10, 05:42
Hi,

I will be going to Pattaya next week end for the first time. Can anyone advise where I can enjoy nude and lesbian shows such as those in Soi Cowboy in Bangkok ?

Thanks in davance

The Scout
04-14-10, 06:58
As I said, she is probably a very nice girl but, at best, she is a 2 out of 10 and, from what I can make out of the room, this is a 1 out of 10.
...
Don't worry. You should be able to find some sevens to nines in Pattaya. Maybe the odd ten. You can also find rooms of a much better quality. I am following the Penthouse thread and could well be giving this a try at the end of the month.
Mr. E's 7+ woman might not be your 7+ woman and your 7+ woman might not be my 7+ woman. It's always good to remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As for the room, he said it was a 100 baht ST room, so I wouldn't expect a super clean quality room for that price. In the end it's all about personal preferences.

Wendella
04-14-10, 08:50
Mr. E's 7+ woman might not be your 7+ woman and your 7+ woman might not be my 7+ woman. It's always good to remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As for the room, he said it was a 100 baht ST room, so I wouldn't expect a super clean quality room for that price. In the end it's all about personal preferences.

False. "pretty but not quite beautiful" is in the eye of the beholder. It's only when we get to a mix of appealing and non-appealing traits that we disagree. When we see something amazing, we all agree. 7's are not beauties, or they wouldn't be getting 3 points knocked off. Trust me, if I put a pic of a 10 up here along with a bunch of 7s and 6s, asked everybody to pick which is hottest, they're all gonna pick the 10. Ask which comes 2nd and they'll spread the vote around.

Blkanjil
04-14-10, 15:04
I have been sitting on the outside reading the postings and, I don't normally have the urge to reply ...

My message to all the guys out there is:

Don't worry. You should be able to find some sevens to nines in Pattaya. Maybe the odd ten. You can also find rooms of a much better quality. I am following the Penthouse thread and could well be giving this a try at the end of the month.I arrived in Pattaya 3 days ago. Left BKK after the demonstrations turned hairy, and it seems I'm not alone, Pattay is rocking! Talked with a few Americans who are staying at my hotel and said they left BKK early to come down here for the same reason.

I've been hitting walking street and going to Baby Dolls, Baccara, Beach Bar and Angelwitch. Out of all the bars mentioned, Angelwitch, IMHO, has the hottest girls. Many 10's and 9's. I've walked the beach road area and there are a shit-load of girls and katoys, but they aren't that hot or at least not my taste. Also, a ton of Russian wh0res walking around, but really not that hot.

I've been seeing one girl from Chiang Mai who works at Baby Dolls; bar fine was B700 and hanging out overnight (Long time) was B1500. She likes the show at Angelwitch and we are probably going back tonight. She is going to help me work one of the Superstars there, #16 and negociate a short time for me. I fucking love Thailand!

Slackerslacker
04-14-10, 15:07
OK, I understand that you had had edge that needing massaging but, did you really need to show the pictures?

My message to all the guys out there is:

Don't worry. You should be able to find some sevens to nines in Pattaya. Maybe the odd ten. You can also find rooms of a much better quality. I am following the Penthouse thread and could well be giving this a try at the end of the month.

Ha ha.. I was tempted to reply to Mr. E with three "Why's"
Why did you take HER?
Why did you take pics?
Why did you post pics?
Of course the first 2 why's are up to him, but the 3rd includes "us" too.
I'm sure you had a good time and I'm glad you were happy with her. It's just her pictures weren't very "pleasing".

I'm not as worried as BB that lurkers might get the wrong impression of what is available in Pattaya. I think the less punters, the better.

Some may say, such "criticism" of Mr. E's pics are unwarranted, but really, we see all kinds of comments about pics like "Wow, she is hot!" , etc. and no one seems to mind, so why not an honest appraisal of the other end of the spectrum?

I hope Mr. E has a sense of humor about it, whether it is beer goggles or all the blood going to the wrong head, it is kind of funny.

LittleBigMan
04-14-10, 17:17
I have never done this in all the years I have been on this board. Maybe I have but I just don't remember?

Slackerslacker 35 post,
Bramley Boy 2 post?

Your answer is pretty much given by Wendalla and The Scout! Now instead of ripping and making fun of Mr. E, you two might want to Put up or shut Up!

The answer to the three Why's?

1. He had to smooth his edge and she was the sharpest razor on the Beach
2. He had a camera with plenty of space
3. Because he has the right too! just like you exercise your right to criticize him.

LBM

Bramley Boy
04-14-10, 18:28
I have never done this in all the years I have been on this board. Maybe I have but I just don't remember?

Slackerslacker 35 post,
Bramley Boy 2 post?

Your answer is pretty much given by Wendalla and The Scout! Now instead of ripping and making fun of Mr. E, you two might want to Put up or shut Up!

The answer to the three Why's?

1. He had to smooth his edge and she was the sharpest razor on the Beach
2. He had a camera with plenty of space
3. Because he has the right too! just like you exercise your right to criticize him.

LBMWho rattled your cage? Come on? Either in all the years you have done it or you haven't?

Sharpest Razor on the Breach - What does that say about the rest of the razors? Again, I must add that, I am sure she is a very nice girl with, and this gets talked about a lot in Thailand, a very good heart. Not a black heart, not a hot heart and, not a cold heart. But, she is not a beauty. Can I suggest a few people go for a quick check up at Top Charoen? (this is an optician located very close to the beach - free check up)

As a Senior Member with, over 1,000 posts, I am sure you are the man but, new posters, who have been watching for sometime, are not allowed to comment? Do we have to go through an induction period with, someone like you as our mentor, before we can comment?

What, in particular, would you like us to put up?

Naughty
04-14-10, 20:57
Does anybody know what happened to the Pattaya news web site www.pattayaone.net?

I haven't been able to access it lately.

Slackerslacker
04-15-10, 02:29
I have never done this in all the years I have been on this board. Maybe I have but I just don't remember?

Slackerslacker 35 post,
Bramley Boy 2 post?

Your answer is pretty much given by Wendalla and The Scout! Now instead of ripping and making fun of Mr. E, you two might want to Put up or shut Up!

The answer to the three Why's?

1. He had to smooth his edge and she was the sharpest razor on the Beach
2. He had a camera with plenty of space
3. Because he has the right too! just like you exercise your right to criticize him.

LBM

Why not make fun of Mr. E's pics?
He chose a fugly in a land of cute spinners.
I already said the first 2 Why's are up to him, but the posting of the pics invites comments.
Pics of girls are commented on constantly, obviously reflecting the opinion/tastes of the commenter.

I'm sure Mr. E can do his own objecting if he is offended. I hope I haven't driven away people from participating in the forum. Ha ha.

Mr Enternational
04-15-10, 04:57
Why not make fun of Mr. E's pics?
He chose a fugly in a land of cute spinners.
I already said the first 2 Why's are up to him, but the posting of the pics invites comments.
Pics of girls are commented on constantly, obviously reflecting the opinion/tastes of the commenter.

I'm sure Mr. E can do his own objecting if he is offended. I hope I haven't driven away people from participating in the forum. Ha ha.
I don't recall entering a contest here. Like Chris Rock said, the people with the least shit always have to say the most shit. You never see a regular poster critiquing another regular poster. It's always the lurkers or fly-by-nighters that want to sneak in the back door and try to get things stirred up.

My reputation speaks for itself on this board and with the the people who I have had the pleasure to meet from here in several countries. I have mongered enough on this planet, and certainly in Thailand, that I have become jaded and know not to always go for what is glittering. I am not trying to impress anyone here (especially anyone who has less posts since being a member than I have had in the past two weeks.)

My goal was not to ooooh and aaaaah the board with pictures of paid SPs. I have done enough of that in the past and it does not in the least bit stroke my ego. My goal was simply to inform the board of Beach Road prices and the location and price of a ST hotel in the vicinity. Still, if any of you wish to enlighten us with any new informative reports or "impress" us by showing us photos of the ladies you have paid and the places you have stayed, then by all means we are waiting to see your work. If not, then go sit back down and remain quiet as you have done before.

LittleBigMan
04-15-10, 07:43
Who rattled your cage? Come on? Either in all the years you have done it or you haven't?

Sharpest Razor on the Breach - What does that say about the rest of the razors? Again, I must add that, I am sure she is a very nice girl with, and this gets talked about a lot in Thailand, a very good heart. Not a black heart, not a hot heart and, not a cold heart. But, she is not a beauty. Can I suggest a few people go for a quick check up at Top Charoen? (this is an optician located very close to the beach - free check up)

As a Senior Member with, over 1,000 posts, I am sure you are the man but, new posters, who have been watching for sometime, are not allowed to comment? Do we have to go through an induction period with, someone like you as our mentor, before we can comment?

What, in particular, would you like us to put up?

I think instead of getting glasses you need to maybe get some Brain Focus medication for yourself because you don't seem to get it. The number of post really doesn't have any to do with it nor does being Senior member! You can say whatever you like and I certainly don't enjoy stepping in and pointing out to you that you have pay for your membership so did Mr. E... so what is the problem with him posting his photos?

You seem to like to judge others while taking offense to others judging you! If you don't like the photos, why writing a book criticizing his choice and photos, just move on! You have a right to your opinions I merely suggest you put up! meaning some photos of your own since you so freely seem to think and like to criticise others for their choices. In the end 3 post and all criticism! Is that your induction to all of us into this site? Please get real!

A correction for you... I'm not the man whether I have 1 post or 2,000 post but I certainly not going to sit back and watch a 2 poster member poster start dictating to everyone what they personally consider to be beauty?

Mr. E... thanks for saying what I just don't have the patients to say!
LBM

Run Mann
04-15-10, 08:43
Does anybody know what happened to the Pattaya news web site www.pattayaone.net?

I haven't been able to access it lately.

There was a message on the site earlier indicating that they were/are moving to a new server this week but they are back online now.

Blkanjil
04-15-10, 09:45
I arrived in Pattaya 3 days ago ...

I've been seeing one girl from Chiang Mai who works at Baby Dolls; bar fine was B700 and hanging out overnight (Long time) was B1500. She likes the show at Angelwitch and we are probably going back tonight. She is going to help me work one of the Superstars there, #16 and negociate a short time for me. I fucking love Thailand!Went to Angelwitch with my girl last night, to see if I could hookup with Superstar #16. Which was a no-go. Spoke with her, but she was already hanging with another guy and told me she can't get barfined until after 1 AM. She told me that the 'customer" she's with is leaving Pattaya today, so that if I can come back tonight, we can make it happen.

I then started talking about cost, and she told me that B1000 baht was the the barfine in Angelwitch, and for ST it was B2000/LT B4000. I didn't start negociating yet with her, I'll save it for tonight. Has any board member BFed an Angelwitch girl and what were the prices? I figure I will try and cut the LT in half and go from there.

In any event, I went back with my Chiang Mai chick and her friend last-night, ate some scorpions, and knocked it out with both till the sun came up. God, I love Thailand!

BlkAnjil

Fon Tok
04-15-10, 10:21
...In any event, I went back with my Chiang Mai chick and her friend last-night, ate some scorpions, and knocked it out with both till the sun came up. God, I love Thailand!Hey, nice shot of a couple of cuties...Nat and Nan. Great smiles. I bet they were fun!

You ate scorpion? I've eaten spider in Cambodia and assorted bugs in the LOS (the silkworm crunchies are good), but never tried scorpion. What's it taste like?

Cunning Stunt
04-15-10, 11:19
What to do with a spare 30 minutes and 500 baht in Pattaya?

a. Walk from hotel to Beach Road – 5 minutes.
b. Find a suitable girl – 10 minutes.
c. Walk back to hotel – 5 minutes.
d. Proceed to use her mouth, face and body as a cum bucket – 30 seconds (only kidding ;) – say 10 minutes).
e. Pay her a purply, apologise for the red eye and kick her out.

Some moralistic hypocritical assholes here try to push the message that we ought to be going 12 rounds with our consciences for using and abusing these poor little third world sweeties (and then goes out and buys one!). Hahahaha!!

However, sometimes a girl does spends too long working the stretch and then it can chew them up and spit them out. Maybe sleeping beauty was a looker in the not too distant past. Not now. How sad

Blkanjil
04-15-10, 11:35
Hey, nice shot of a couple of cuties...Nat and Nan. Great smiles. I bet they were fun!

You ate scorpion? I've eaten spider in Cambodia and assorted bugs in the LOS (the silkworm crunchies are good), but never tried scorpion. What's it taste like?They are are cool and work great as a tag team! They both work at Baby Dolls. Scorpions tasted kinda salty, crunchy and peppery, not bad, but if I had choice between them and the fried baby frogs, I'd go with the frogs!

Here's Nat w/ a scorpion lastnight.

Blkanjil
04-15-10, 11:39
What to do with a spare 30 minutes and 500 baht in Pattaya?

a. Walk from hotel to Beach Road – 5 minutes.
b. Find a suitable girl – 10 minutes.
c. Walk back to hotel – 5 minutes.
d. Proceed to use her mouth, face and body as a cum bucket – 30 seconds (only kidding ;) – say 10 minutes).
e. Pay her a purply, apologise for the red eye and kick her out.

Some moralistic hypocritical assholes here try to push the message that we ought to be going 12 rounds with our consciences for using and abusing these poor little third world sweeties (and then goes out and buys one!). Hahahaha!!

However, sometimes a girl does spends too long working the stretch and then it can chew them up and spit them out. Maybe sleeping beauty was a looker in the not too distant past. Not now. How sadGoing to take your suggestion, sounds like a good plan. I got 30 mins and 500 baht. Just hope not to wake sleeping beauty!

Shansawy
04-15-10, 11:40
Amex Spg,

Many thanks for your report, it is alawys good to have an update on the prices so we can prepare our budgets and plans.

Bramley Boy
04-15-10, 13:12
Went to Angelwitch with my girl last night, to see if I could hookup with Superstar #16. Which was a no-go. Spoke with her, but she was already hanging with another guy and told me she can't get barfined until after 1 AM. She told me that the 'customer" she's with is leaving Pattaya today, so that if I can come back tonight, we can make it happen.

I then started talking about cost, and she told me that B1000 baht was the the barfine in Angelwitch, and for ST it was B2000/LT B4000. I didn't start negociating yet with her, I'll save it for tonight. Has any board member BFed an Angelwitch girl and what were the prices? I figure I will try and cut the LT in half and go from there.

In any event, I went back with my Chiang Mai chick and her friend last-night, ate some scorpions, and knocked it out with both till the sun came up. God, I love Thailand!

BlkAnjilSounds like you are having a great time. Really like the picture.

Bramley Boy
04-15-10, 13:17
I think instead of getting glasses you need to maybe get some Brain Focus medication for yourself because you don't seem to get it. The number of post really doesn't have any to do with it nor does being Senior member! You can say whatever you like and I certainly don't enjoy stepping in and pointing out to you that you have pay for your membership so did Mr. E... so what is the problem with him posting his photos?

You seem to like to judge others while taking offense to others judging you! If you don't like the photos, why writing a book criticizing his choice and photos, just move on! You have a right to your opinions I merely suggest you put up! meaning some photos of your own since you so freely seem to think and like to criticise others for their choices. In the end 3 post and all criticism! Is that your induction to all of us into this site? Please get real!

A correction for you... I'm not the man whether I have 1 post or 2,000 post but I certainly not going to sit back and watch a 2 poster member poster start dictating to everyone what they personally consider to be beauty?

Mr. E... thanks for saying what I just don't have the patients to say!
LBMDid you see the post today by BIkanjil? Sounds like he is having a real blast and, his picture really turned me on. How about you? Did this stir you?

Slackerslacker
04-15-10, 13:45
I don't recall entering a contest here.

I guess we can move to PM's to discuss this in detail.

I'll write this to Mr. E, since it was his pics. I don't know if he and LittleMan are a couple,but I assume Mr. E is the husband.

You're right, you didn't enter a contest. Just some comments about your pics. LittleMan overreacted on your behalf.

The pics I've posted have been for the benefit and enjoyment of the other forumites, not for me, obviously I've already seen them.

If someone told me the pictures were unappealing I would take the criticism to heart and think about my pic choices more closely.
Why can't an honest response be taken as that, not as a personal attack? The girl was fugly, not nice to look at, so be it.

Not the first time I've noticed such thin skin on this site. Everyone seems to take themselves so seriously. A little humor, even if it has some bite, is a good thing.

:) Happy Times

ThaiLearner
04-15-10, 15:06
Hi,

I will be going to Pattaya next week end for the first time. Can anyone advise where I can enjoy nude and lesbian shows such as those in Soi Cowboy in Bangkok ?

Thanks in davance


There are plenty of go gos that offer what you are looking for x zone & windmill to name a couple.

DG69
04-15-10, 17:56
However, sometimes a girl does spends too long working the stretch and then it can chew them up and spit them out. Maybe sleeping beauty was a looker in the not too distant past. Not now. How sad

I would look twice, before I would wake up sleeping beauty. For me he looks like a lady boy. Judging from the size of the feeds and the shape of the jaw.;)

David 2
04-15-10, 18:19
What to do with a spare 30 minutes and 500 baht in Pattaya?

a. Walk from hotel to Beach Road – 5 minutes.
b. Find a suitable girl – 10 minutes.
c. Walk back to hotel – 5 minutes.
d. Proceed to use her mouth, face and body as a cum bucket – 30 seconds (only kidding ;) – say 10 minutes).
e. Pay her a purply, apologise for the red eye and kick her out.

Some moralistic hypocritical assholes here try to push the message that we ought to be going 12 rounds with our consciences for using and abusing these poor little third world sweeties (and then goes out and buys one!). Hahahaha!!

However, sometimes a girl does spends too long working the stretch and then it can chew them up and spit them out. Maybe sleeping beauty was a looker in the not too distant past. Not now. How sad
So good to see that there are still some kind, sensitive, caring humanitarians left in this world.

Rjsss212
04-15-10, 20:57
Nice! You hit it before the meltdown....


What to do with a spare 30 minutes and 500 baht in Pattaya?

a. Walk from hotel to Beach Road – 5 minutes.
b. Find a suitable girl – 10 minutes.
c. Walk back to hotel – 5 minutes.
d. Proceed to use her mouth, face and body as a cum bucket – 30 seconds (only kidding ;) – say 10 minutes).
e. Pay her a purply, apologise for the red eye and kick her out.

Some moralistic hypocritical assholes here try to push the message that we ought to be going 12 rounds with our consciences for using and abusing these poor little third world sweeties (and then goes out and buys one!). Hahahaha!!

However, sometimes a girl does spends too long working the stretch and then it can chew them up and spit them out. Maybe sleeping beauty was a looker in the not too distant past. Not now. How sad

Naughty
04-16-10, 01:42
There was a message on the site earlier indicating that they were/are moving to a new server this week but they are back online now.

Thanks, Run Mann.

I will now depart to get my daily fix of news and trivia from P-one!

Wendella
04-16-10, 06:43
I would look twice, before I would wake up sleeping beauty. For me he looks like a lady boy. Judging from the size of the feeds and the shape of the jaw.;)

Sleeping handsome. ;)

Wendella
04-16-10, 06:45
So good to see that there are still some kind, sensitive, caring humanitarians left in this world.

Yes we have a petition at the Vatican to make Cunning Stunt a saint.

Actually the way things are going there lately, it wouldn't surprise me.

Opebo
04-16-10, 07:13
What to do with a spare 30 minutes and 500 baht in Pattaya?

a. Walk from hotel to Beach Road – 5 minutes.
b. Find a suitable girl – 10 minutes.
c. Walk back to hotel – 5 minutes.

Please do not get too comfortable or spoiled my friend - perhaps you are too young to remember, but there were many periods of months on end just a few years ago when Beach Road was completely shut down by the authorities, and no suitable girl was to be had, even if you looked for hours, much less ten minutes. Even today 'suitable' is far more rare on the Beach than it was a few years back.

Like so many things in life, enjoy while it lasts - it will not last.

Blkanjil
04-16-10, 10:18
Checked out Happy Bar last night and definitely had a couple of 10s and 9s. I like #22 with the big-ass back Dragon tattoo that goes from her shoulders on down her right leg, nice! Had a bunch of Japanese ATMs show up (thick frame glasses, flower shirts, shorts, sandles w/ socks, and man-bags around their necks) and so I made my escape. As I walked out of the bar, a girl in a sexy flight attendant outfit caught my eye, so I followed her.

I work closely with the airlines in the US, so this interested me greatly. And she led me right to the Airport Club. It's a great club; kinda tight, but deep. I had a pocket full of small gold pilot wings, I usually give them out to flight attendants as give away items. They were gold in this place! Mammasan was the first to get a set., then gave them out to the Captains on down. I ended up buying a drink for one girl, #38; tall with big tits and a stomach tattoo. She was hot, very interactive so I spoke with Mammasan about taking her out.

She told me that the bar-fine was B1500 before 12 midnight, then B1000 after. This was one of the highest I had seen in Pattaya, so I figure it was up for negotiation (it's everything in Pattaya?). After talking with Mammasan, we agreed to B800 bar-fine, B2000 longtime. And it was about 1130 PM when we finally left.

Before we left the bar, I asked Mammasan if she'd take a pic with me outside the bar (so I show my co-workers this bar) and she said yes, but she wanted a copy. I have my iPhone, so we took it with that and I sent her it through email and text message. Later on this would be important.

We got back to my hotel room and started knocking it out. She gave me a sexy strip show, then I started banging her doggy-style against the desk. We finished off on the bed, her on top while I played with her big tits. She got up to clean up, I dropped my condom in the trash and went in to join her in the shower. She soaped me up and rinsed me off, and then we got out to dry off. Her phone rang and she answered it.

After she got off the phone, she started getting dressed. I asked her what's up, and she said her friend called and was sick, so she had to go help her. I figured it was bullshit, she just wanted to grab a new trick, but I wasn't going to argue. I was just going to call my regular to come by. As she was leaving, I gave her B1000. And she went crazy! She said I had to give her B2000, that was the agreement. I countered that she changed it from long time to short time, so I was only going to pay B1000. She picked up my Airbook laptop that was on my desk and threatened to smash it.

My first instinct was to lunge at her, grab my laptop from her and slap the shit out of her. But I checked myself: I'm in a foreign country and didn't want to cause an issue that may involve police in the end. I remembered that I had Mammasan's number, so I figured I'd pay her and get her the fuck out of here, then deal with it. I paid her B2000 and she left.

I called Mammasan and it went to voice mail, so I figured I would leave a message and send her a text message. Surprisingly she called me right back. We discussed the issue and said that she would talk with the girl and get back to me. She called me back and told that if I came by tonight, she would have the girl pay me back the B1000, apologize and buy me a drink or 2. I will stop over and see what happens.

So I learned something. Making friends with Mammasan and getting her contact numbers can be useful, you never know when you'll need it.

Run Mann
04-16-10, 11:47
If you're coming to Pattaya to skip the politics of BKK, be aware that the water games are on. However, on Monday it will be an all day water war and love fest. Today I was riding behind this fat expat looking guy who was on his scooter and kept putting his hand up to the crowds indicating he was not playing the water games but the natives would have none of it and he was doused and soaking wet after five minutes, he was so pissed because he kept yelling asshole to anyone who sprayed him, it was a funny scene. If you don’t want to get wet stay indoors till 8 pm or ride in a car like I do, it was ugly out there today!

Daddy07
04-16-10, 12:48
If you're coming to Pattaya to skip the politics of BKK, be aware that the water games are on. However, on Monday it will be an all day water war and love fest. Today I was riding behind this fat expat looking guy who was on his scooter and kept putting his hand up to the crowds indicating he was not playing the water games but the natives would have none of it and he was doused and soaking wet after five minutes, he was so pissed because he kept yelling asshole to anyone who sprayed him, it was a funny scene. If you don’t want to get wet stay indoors till 8 pm or ride in a car like I do, it was ugly out there today!
8pm? ... does that mean that one could after 8pm venture out from Jomtien to Walking Street on a motorbike and arrive dry? (I doubt it)

Also ... is it... the madness I mean ... really over on the 19th? I read somewhere that the last day of Songkran in Pattaya this year was the 20th.

Blkanjil
04-16-10, 13:06
There are plenty of go gos that offer what you are looking for x zone & windmill to name a couple.Many GoGo bars on Walking Street have shower/bath and lesbian shows. Some more names are: BabyDolls, Air Port Club and What's Up. Some guys were in Baby Doll's and were having a blast soaping up the girls and rinsing them off, using dildos on the girls. One even jumped in the bath and they showered him off.

Blkanjil
04-16-10, 13:39
8pm? ... does that mean that one could after 8pm venture out from Jomtien to Walking Street on a motorbike and arrive dry? (I doubt it)

Also ... is it... the madness I mean ... really over on the 19th? I read somewhere that the last day of Songkran in Pattaya this year was the 20th.Usually by 7-8 pm it's cool to walk around without getting wet. But during the day, expect it and dress accordingly. I have a waterproof zip-lock bag I keep my money and cellphone in. Believe me, you are going to get drenched. On days that I need to go somewhere and don't want to get wet, I have a meter taxi guy that I call and he takes me around.

The thing to keep in mind is that this is one of their biggest (and longest) festival of the year. Deal with the festivities or just stay inside until evening. Someone mentioned seeing a farang driving around on his scooter and getting pissed when they threw water on him. I saw one, too (maybe the same guy) and he actually got off his bike to confront some of the beer bar girls who were throwing water. Every other beer bar girl on the street came over and let him have it, as well as other westerners that were celebrating, it was awesome!

The 18th and 19th are the biggest days. Everyone will be out in force.

Bramley Boy
04-16-10, 15:50
Going to take your suggestion, sounds like a good plan. I got 30 mins and 500 baht. Just hope not to wake sleeping beauty!BIkanjil - Really been enjoying your reports. This is what first timers do here.

Hope you were joking with your comments about following in the foot steps of the 'Seasoned Pattaya Ex-Pat Pros.' This is not what first timers do.

For me, these 'Seasoned Pattaya Ex-Pat Pros' come in two categories:

1. Retired Ex-Pat Living on his pension. Maybe they live alone and, don't even like Thai people. Once or twice a week they get an itch and, they go and grab something from the beach. They know they can get something for 400 Baht. This is OK for them. The way the exchange rate is going their monthly supplies of Bahts is getting less and less.

2. Married to a Thai for a few years and, possibly paid hundreds of thousands of Bahts to their wife and, her family up in the village. The wife soon gets bored with 'Falang Sex' and, if the falang is lucky, she might consent once a month. So, obviously he gets the itch and, has to follow the beach babe path as well. But, for this guy it is worse. He is paying double. His wife at home (who is maybe - eating, watching TV, sleeping or playing cards) and, the beach babe.

This is very sad. Beach Babe sex becomes something like going to the doctor or the dentist. You have to go to cure the itch.

How do I know? Well, I fall into category 2 but, I got out as quickly as I could and, I have not yet joined the rush for beach babes.

Whatever happens BIkanjil - keep having fun.

Almost forgot. One more category and, the old joke. How to turn a fox into an elephant? Marry it.

Showdown
04-16-10, 22:26
Cruised Beach Road the other night. There are not as many ladies out as usual due to the Songkran holiday. I noticed that no one on the Beach Road side where the ladies are were shooting/throwing water. That was only going on on the other side of the street.

I always like two ladies and it took little effort to find two of them. I found the first girl-the one with the shorter hair-first. She was bubbly and fun and agreed to 600 baht with pics. I asked her about her friend and her first friend refused because she did not want her photo taken. Fine. No problem. I will pass. Then she asked her next friend who turned out to be a good choice. She was just as much friend as her friend. Alot of laughing, fucking, cumming(they both had good orgasms). Gave each 1000 because of the great job they did.

Take your time when you are looking guys and get what you want. You wont always find the stunners but sometimes the fun makes up for it.

Showdown

Blkanjil
04-17-10, 11:25
Checked out Happy Bar last night and definitely had a couple of 10s and 9s. I like #22 with the big-ass back Dragon tattoo that goes from her shoulders on down her right leg, nice! ...

... She called me back and told that if I came by tonight, she would have the girl pay me back the B1000, apologize and buy me a drink or 2. I will stop over and see what happens.So last night I stop by Happy Bar because I couldn't get the "Back Dragon" girl out of my head. Picked her up for 600 Baht bar-fine and 2000 Baht Long Time. She was awesome. Tall, cute, small tits for my taste, but made up for it with her enthusiasm and willingness to please.

I debated about stopping off at airport at Air Port Club, just didn't want to deal with the drama, so I called Mammasan told her that I had forgotten about the whole deal and thanked her for her offer. Mammasan insisted that I stop over. So I did. With Back Dragon girl.

Mammasan was very nice and pleasant to me and had the girl who had given me drama return my money to me. She was very appologetic, but I think it was half an act she did for my benifit, "wai-ing" the whole time and saying sorry. I hadn't told Back Dragon about this prior to entering, so she was pretty entertained by the whole event.

Mammasan explained to her what happened the other night, and she started giggling, then said to me, "hey, you didn't get Happy Bar Mammasan telephone number. We go back? " We both left and returned to my hotel room.

Once we were back in the room, we had an awesome time, although something weird happened. She kept asking if I could make her pregnant. I said no, I won't, I promise I always wear a condom. She said no, she wanted to have a baby with a foreigner. Her friend just had a baby with a foreign father and they are very good looking. She said she was just over her period and said she can get pregnant now.

I told her that I had a vasectomy and couldn't have kids (which is a lie), but I really didn't want to go bare-backing a professional sex worker in the sex capital of the world. Is this common for Thai girls wanting a baby with a foreigner because of looks? Or maybe it's a ploy to get a child support from an overseas father, in any event, I didn't want to find out.

Well, it's cloudy out and rainy, I thing I'm going to call in a 2 hr massage from Teen Massage this afternoon.

Blkanjil
04-17-10, 21:51
Hope you were joking with your comments about following in the foot steps of the 'Seasoned Pattaya Ex-Pat Pros.' This is not what first timers do ...

Whatever happens BIkanjil - keep having fun.

Almost forgot. One more category and, the old joke. How to turn a fox into an elephant? Marry it.No worries. I actually did walk beach road, in between the Songkran celebrations yesterday and really found nothing that interests me. I did call in a massage from Teen Massage this afternoon and had a great time.

My doorbell rang and I opened it, and there was my massage girl soaked to the bone! She was beautiful, but completely soaked with powder on her face. We laughed about Songkran and it gave her an excuse to get out of her clothes quickly. Her name was Pet, and she told me she was my personal Teen Massage specialist and she was awesome. The oil massage was excellent (2hr 700 Baht) and when she flipped me over, she was kneeling between my legs and then put my legs up onto her thighs. She started giving me an awesome ball and taint massage.

She probably spent about 10 minutes on my balls, seperating them and massaging them individually and together. My balls have never had a massage like this. She them bent down and blew me, which with all the attention on my balls, I didn't last long.

After she cleaned me up, she went back to massaging my legs and hips, doing the pelvis rock, which of course got me hard again. At this point she mentioned prices (I guess the first release was free): Handjob was 300 Baht, blow job was 500 Baht and fucking was 800 Baht. She also had a package deal: a blow job & cum w/ fuck & cum was 1000 Baht. She also said ATM was 2000 Baht. I was confused and asked her to explain, and she said ATM meant "ass to mouth". LOL! I knew this term in the US, but wasn't expecting it from this girl in Thailand, I thought it had something to do with automatic tellers.

I ended up with package number 1 (BJ & Fuck with 2 nutts) and it was awesome. She was a bit of a kink, too. She laid on the bed, hung her head off the edge and let me fuck her mouth until I came. She them let me recover, gently sucked me hard again and then let me fuck her brains out till I shot my load. We showered up, and then she put her wet clothes on and headed back into the wet jaws of the Songkran festivities.

God I love Thailand!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Wendella
04-18-10, 04:54
Two Fun Beach Road girls

I'm not sure fun photographs well. Guess you had to be there.

You know theres a photo gallery, thats' where pix like these are supposed to go.

Jack Rabbit
04-18-10, 08:13
I don't speak from the beachroad girls, but from the higher tier Club girls. It's true if you are known as a big spender and expensive girls are around you, you might impress them. Though is this result worth all those effort? If they are too proud to consider you as a client, than you will most likely not get a good service.

Everything is timing and opportunity. You don't necessarily have to drop bank so that women want to be with you. If you are reasonably attractive (which is why I prefer Pattaya over Phuket-too many good looking European dudes there), have some game, humour and are just plain fun to be with, women want to be with you (SP or otherwise). The higher end talent can afford to be choosy (since most of them have sponsors).

That being said, I truly regret now (since I had such a short time in Pattaya to play), that I wasn't more on my game and just mashing and dashing. Still pissed off about not just tapping the go-go girls at Superbabys and moving on to next ones at Lucifers, Marine, and Insomnia (either way never heard of a bar demanding ST payment AT THE BAR first).

Goteborg
04-18-10, 08:52
No worries. I actually did walk beach road, in between the Songkran celebrations yesterday and really found nothing that interests me. I did call in a massage from Teen Massage this afternoon and had a great time.

My doorbell rang and I opened it, and there was my massage girl soaked to the bone! She was beautiful, but completely soaked with powder on her face. We laughed about Songkran and it gave her an excuse to get out of her clothes quickly. Her name was Pet, and she told me she was my personal Teen Massage specialist and she was awesome. The oil massage was excellent (2hr 700 Baht) and when she flipped me over, she was kneeling between my legs and then put my legs up onto her thighs. She started giving me an awesome ball and taint massage.

She probably spent about 10 minutes on my balls, seperating them and massaging them individually and together. My balls have never had a massage like this. She them bent down and blew me, which with all the attention on my balls, I didn't last long.

After she cleaned me up, she went back to massaging my legs and hips, doing the pelvis rock, which of course got me hard again. At this point she mentioned prices (I guess the first release was free): Handjob was 300 Baht, blow job was 500 Baht and fucking was 800 Baht. She also had a package deal: a blow job & cum w/ fuck & cum was 1000 Baht. She also said ATM was 2000 Baht. I was confused and asked her to explain, and she said ATM meant "ass to mouth". LOL! I knew this term in the US, but wasn't expecting it from this girl in Thailand, I thought it had something to do with automatic tellers.

I ended up with package number 1 (BJ & Fuck with 2 nutts) and it was awesome. She was a bit of a kink, too. She laid on the bed, hung her head off the edge and let me fuck her mouth until I came. She them let me recover, gently sucked me hard again and then let me fuck her brains out till I shot my load. We showered up, and then she put her wet clothes on and headed back into the wet jaws of the Songkran festivities.

God I love Thailand!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.Great report!

Was she from Dream Teen Massage at Soi 21 or an other place?

Would love to have a massage like that when I arrive in 2 weeks.

Run Mann
04-18-10, 09:32
I did call in a massage from Teen Massage this afternoon and had a great time.

My doorbell rang and I opened it, and there was my massage girl soaked to the bone! She was beautiful, but completely soaked with powder on her face. We laughed about Songkran and it gave her an excuse to get out of her clothes quickly. Her name was Pet, and she told me she was my personal Teen Massage specialist and she was awesome. The oil massage was excellent (2hr 700 Baht)

Presumably you meant Dream Teen massage, (never heard of Teen Massage in Pattaya), I also used them about two weeks ago but the 2 hours outcall session is 1000B, and the 700B fee is for the onsite locate only. X, who is not the best looker in town, said she is 18 but her body and (training) boobs are a little soft and she is a little heavier than her pics on the site. She is a real cum stopper though with good suction and she's a gagger. However, she starts out quoting some silly prices for her services but as is the case with many of these girls, they will come back to earth once they realize you know the game.

Blkanjil
04-18-10, 09:58
Presumably you meant Dream Teen massage, (never heard of Teen Massage in Pattaya), I also used them about two weeks ago but the 2 hours outcall session is 1000B ... they will come back to earth once they realize you know the game.You are correct, it was Dream Teen Massage. I just got in from the pool, looks like a great afternoon for another massage. I may have ordered the hr long oil & ball massage. After negotiations, it lasted for 2. I need something to prepare me for the heavy lifting I'm hoping to do tonight.

Went to a GoGo bar lastnight and I may have my a possibility for an "Austin Powers" fantasy. There are twin sisters that work there, I spoke with them last night, but they had already been bar-fined. I explained I wanted to take them both for longtime and they started at 6000 Baht for both! Awesome! So I have made plans to go back tonight and see if I can work it. I gave her half a US $100 bill (I wasn't going to tear a Baht bill with the King's image on it) as a "promise seed" in hope that I can get them both bar-fined.

InventionGuy
04-18-10, 10:24
She writes from pattya "I don't have money more.

I have to use money because in here is Songkran. I work too hard and don't have day off. Don't have the customer more because have a problem in Thailand. "

Anyways I read in threads that actually Pattaya is busy as people are abandoning BKK for pattya right now.

I give her a stipend of 6000 bht every 3 weeks, when I am not there. As she calls it "little bit of freedom". Anyways because of this unrest in thaiand, I am sure all of us are getting the I don't have any money emails. Do we have any soliders/punter on the ground. I would highly appreciate some intel.

Thank you

Evianist
04-18-10, 12:05
After she got off the phone, she started getting dressed. I asked her what's up, and she said her friend called and was sick, so she had to go help her. I figured it was bullshit, she just wanted to grab a new trick, but I wasn't going to argue. I was just going to call my regular to come by. As she was leaving, I gave her B1000. And she went crazy! She said I had to give her B2000, that was the agreement. I countered that she changed it from long time to short time, so I was only going to pay B1000.


In my experience this is common with pattaya gogo girls. Better to take her for ST first and only extend to LT if she's a keeper.

Blkanjil
04-18-10, 12:59
In my experience this is common with pattaya gogo girls. Better to take her for ST first and only extend to LT if she's a keeper.Good advice, thanks.

I will try that tonight!

Slackerslacker
04-18-10, 14:36
I'm not sure fun photographs well. Guess you had to be there.

You know theres a photo gallery, thats' where pix like these are supposed to go.

At the time of this writing, the Pattaya Reports section has 525 photos posted. I see nothing wrong with posting photos about Pattaya in the Pattaya section and obviously many others don't as well.

It is nice to read the story and have a few photos at hand, not having to jump over to the Photo section and look for the photos that match the story.

Wendella
04-18-10, 16:15
At the time of this writing, the Pattaya Reports section has 525 photos posted. I see nothing wrong with posting photos about Pattaya in the Pattaya section and obviously many others don't as well.

It is nice to read the story and have a few photos at hand, not having to jump over to the Photo section and look for the photos that match the story.

Fair enough. "supposed to" was not the best word choice. "Can" would have been better. Guess it's more of a personal thing on my part, not wanting to see pics of ones that look that...um... fun -- a main reason I don't look at the photo gallery thread, where photos of fun but certainly not stunning girls seem to be all the rage, hard to avoid. Guess I should just train myself better not to click on the pix links.

Dazednconfused
04-19-10, 03:26
"I don't have money more.One born every minute.

It wouldn't matter if the entire Seventh Fleet was in town.

This is the BG equivalent of going to the ATM and pushing the requisite buttons in the hope that money will be dispensed.

Blkanjil
04-19-10, 05:21
She writes from pattya "I don't have money more.

I have to use money because in here is Songkran. I work too hard and don't have day off. Don't have the customer more because have a problem in Thailand. "Sorry. Pattaya is packed with everyone who left BKK. I am one of them! Maybe you should look into a new sponsoree.

Now I understand what they mean by a "Walking ATM."

Daddy07
04-19-10, 08:36
She writes from pattya "I don't have money more.

I have to use money because in here is Songkran. I work too hard and don't have day off. Don't have the customer more because have a problem in Thailand. "

Anyways I read in threads that actually Pattaya is busy as people are abandoning BKK for pattya right now.

I give her a stipend of 6000 bht every 3 weeks, when I am not there. As she calls it "little bit of freedom". Anyways because of this unrest in thaiand, I am sure all of us are getting the I don't have any money emails. Do we have any soliders/punter on the ground. I would highly appreciate some intel.

Thank you
My advice: Stop sponsoring her NOW and come to your senses, man.

The lady is a prostitute, and your "stipend" is just gravy to her.

Pointy Stick
04-19-10, 09:51
My advice: Stop sponsoring her NOW and come to your senses, man.

The lady is a prostitute, and your "stipend" is just gravy to her.

LOL I second this and there is only one type of 'gravy' you should be giving her and it ain't money.

Was in an internet cafe in Pattaya last August and watched a BG and a friend writing emails to three different dudes. So don't feel guilt cos they'll be some other chump stepping up to take your place.

1Ball
04-19-10, 10:31
This is the BG equivalent of going to the ATM and pushing the requisite buttons in the hope that money will be dispensed.
Lo and behold, sometimes, it does !!!!
LMAO

A stipend of 6,000 a month. Just think, if she is smart enough to have 5 idiots like that on the hook each month. This girl is doing well for herself.
Who says you need a college education to make money. You need a nice smile, and a bunch of suckers.

Mangofan
04-19-10, 10:41
Lo and behold, sometimes, it does !!!!
LMAO

A stipend of 6,000 a month. Just think, if she is smart enough to have 5 idiots like that on the hook each month. This girl is doing well for herself.
Who says you need a college education to make money. You need a nice smile, and a bunch of suckers.


6,000 is actually low. Most good-looking BGs will garner 30,000 baht a month or more from each sponsor. The go-go showgirls earn AT LEAST 100k baht per month from various sponsors. I've met girls who have 7-8 different boyfriends - each sending them money each month. It can really add up.

Come to your senses - do not under any circumstances send these girls money. Bang them then broom them. They are for renting only. Would you sponsor a prostitute from your own country?

But don't take my word for it - there's an entire site filled with stories from guys just like you who have been scammed. www.stickmanbangkok.com - go to reader submissions and have a good read while the rose-colored glasses (hopefully) come off.

Pointy Stick
04-19-10, 12:49
"6,000 is actually low. Most good-looking BGs will garner 30,000 baht a month or more from each sponsor. The go-go showgirls earn AT LEAST 100k baht per month from various sponsors. I've met girls who have 7-8 different boyfriends - each sending them money each month. It can really add up."

I'd be interested to know if anyone has visited these girls villages to see how tricked out their parent's domiciles are. This kind of cash buys a lot of water buffalo in anyone's language.

Daddy07
04-19-10, 13:02
..A stipend of 6,000 a month. Just think, if she is smart enough to have 5 idiots like that on the hook each month. This girl is doing well for herself...
Yep.

Actually, the gentleman said he gives her 6000 every 3 weeks, which works out to 8666 Baht per month -- more than enough to pay for a nice apartment with a sea view in Pattaya, or, as was said below, to buy a healthy water buffalo for the family.

Sammon
04-19-10, 14:02
"6,000 is actually low. Most good-looking BGs will garner 30,000 baht a month or more from each sponsor. The go-go showgirls earn AT LEAST 100k baht per month from various sponsors. I've met girls who have 7-8 different boyfriends - each sending them money each month. It can really add up."

I'd be interested to know if anyone has visited these girls villages to see how tricked out their parent's domiciles are. This kind of cash buys a lot of water buffalo in anyone's language.
I met a girl in Beergarten of all the places who was getting close to 30,000 Baht from a German guy. She had the use of his apartment, nice car. I was driving around town in his car with this girl. She was 27 years quite pretty, tall. We even took a ride to Auyuthaya. However she got more than ticked off when I scratched her car when I was trying park in a tight corner. I was drunk. It was a minor paint job. She never asked me money but I did give her some efore leaving. But I am sure either from boredom or trying to make extra money she is hanging around Beergarten.
She said she is with this German for 7 years who comes twice a year each time for two weeks. She said he hardly stays in BKK instead likes the beach destinations.
What a nice life for her although I believe a short one till the guy finds another young girl!

Blkanjil
04-19-10, 14:20
"6,000 is actually low. Most good-looking BGs will garner 30,000 baht a month or more from each sponsor. The go-go showgirls earn AT LEAST 100k baht per month from various sponsors. I've met girls who have 7-8 different boyfriends - each sending them money each month. It can really add up."

I'd be interested to know if anyone has visited these girls villages to see how tricked out their parent's domiciles are. This kind of cash buys a lot of water buffalo in anyone's language.The chick I am banging regular showed me pics of her family and their house in Nong Khai (sp?). It was no nippa hut on stilts that's for sure, with lot's of toys for the whole family (HiLux, lot's of scooters, plasma & karaoke machine, ect.). She has 4 brothers and another older sister (she's second youngest). From the looks of the pics and what she was telling me, she's the bread winner for the whole family: brothers have no work, sister married, no papa, ect.

Mangofan
04-19-10, 15:44
I'd be interested to know if anyone has visited these girls villages to see how tricked out their parent's domiciles are. This kind of cash buys a lot of water buffalo in anyone's language.

Google "Swiss Village" - you'll see plenty of evidence of this.

Member #3428
04-20-10, 04:29
I'd be interested to know if anyone has visited these girls villages to see how tricked out their parent's domiciles are. This kind of cash buys a lot of water buffalo in anyone's language.

Shit I got to Isaan a lot, to many different villages to see girls and their families. 10 K is huge for these families they feel like they hit the lottery. But so what? If a guy wants to sponsor a girl and he knows he is flushing his money then let him.

Blkanjil
04-20-10, 07:37
Shit I got to Isaan a lot, to many different villages to see girls and their families. 10 K is huge for these families they feel like they hit the lottery. But so what? If a guy wants to sponsor a girl and he knows he is flushing his money then let him.Maybe his way of "making merit" for his next life?

Member #3428
04-20-10, 08:27
Maybe his way of "making merit" for his next life?Does it matter why they do it? As long as they understand they are flushing their money then who cares...

Pointy Stick
04-20-10, 08:58
Shit I got to Isaan a lot, to many different villages to see girls and their families. 10 K is huge for these families they feel like they hit the lottery. But so what? If a guy wants to sponsor a girl and he knows he is flushing his money then let him.

Yeah maybe you're right. This is the kinda socialism I can live with. At least the guy gets something out of it in this situation like some poontang and some fake affection. Does anyone think that dole bludgers living in welfare state in the west would give two squirts of piss when we're forced to contribute their upkeep.

Member #3428
04-20-10, 09:01
Yeah maybe you're right. This is the kinda socialism I can live with. At least the guy gets something out of it in this situation like some poontang and some fake affection. Does anyone think that dole bludgers living in welfare state in the west would give two squirts of piss when we're forced to contribute their upkeep.300 USD can buy / rent you a lot of "love" and for a long time in Thailand. I would rather flush it there then in EU or USA or such.

InventionGuy
04-20-10, 09:09
I have never seen such a small amount of of money, make such a difference anywhere. Every year we pay millions of dollars to these corporate charities, they give often less than 10 percent to the real poor recipients. I have always been top producer in anything I have done, I take the most sophisticated professionals to the cleaners daily. No body is pulling wool over my eyes.

I help these women freely. I am currently not a some retiree on fixed income, with my sincerest respect to all retirees. $70 a week is nothing to me it's like piss to me, I would rather spend it to help some poor hooker, whose family and village and as**hole lazy Thailand (their elitist cast system/over population) and their lazy fu*K Thai males have, abandoned to the wolves. Never understood the lack of valor with these Thai men.

I think will always sponsor some poor Asian hooker/prostitute. I hope she has 10-15 other guys on the hook, I say good for her. Guys are so chintzy, to show that "no body is taking advantage of me". Perhaps it's part of cumming in their mouths treating them like sh*t. Perhaps the first step is to first dehumanize these lost poor souls.

PS. my respects to all the senior members, I always appreciate your experience & wisdom. Who knows perhaps by post number #835 my views may change. Time will tell.

Daddy07
04-21-10, 01:00
...I think will always sponsor some poor Asian hooker/prostitute. I hope she has 10-15 other guys on the hook, I say good for her. Guys are so chintzy, to show that "no body is taking advantage of me". Perhaps it's part of cumming in their mouths treating them like sh*t. Perhaps the first step is to first dehumanize these lost poor souls...
No need to ruffle your feathers, InventionGuy. So you're a rich guy who likes to spend his cash on sponsoring Thai prostitutes. That's perfectly noble and fine with me. If it feels good, do it. I agree with you that it's better to give your money to a whor* than a government thug, but, sadly, you can't deduct it as a charity on your tax return.

These girls have names for guys like you and it's not always Jai Dee. By giving them money for nothing, you'll get a lot of "love" and attention, but I doubt if you'll get any respect.

BTW -- cumming in their mouths is not treating then like shit any more than licking their pussies. Treating them like shit means flushing them down the toilet.

Genghois
04-21-10, 03:31
I have never seen such a small amount of of money, make such a difference anywhere. Every year we pay millions of dollars to these corporate charities, they give often less than 10 percent to the real poor recipients. I have always been top producer in anything I have done, I take the most sophisticated professionals to the cleaners daily. No body is pulling wool over my eyes.

I help these women freely. I am currently not a some retiree on fixed income, with my sincerest respect to all retirees. $70 a week is nothing to me it's like piss to me, I would rather spend it to help some poor hooker, whose family and village and as**hole lazy Thailand (their elitist cast system/over population) and their lazy fu*K Thai males have, abandoned to the wolves. Never understood the lack of valor with these Thai men.

I think will always sponsor some poor Asian hooker/prostitute. I hope she has 10-15 other guys on the hook, I say good for her. Guys are so chintzy, to show that "no body is taking advantage of me". Perhaps it's part of cumming in their mouths treating them like sh*t. Perhaps the first step is to first dehumanize these lost poor souls.

PS. my respects to all the senior members, I always appreciate your experience & wisdom. Who knows perhaps by post number #835 my views may change. Time will tell.

I know that the "Thai Women - Opinions and Advice" was moved to the Expats Forum. But I think that this discussion proves the need for it in the regular Thai forum.

Most certainly this discussion does not belong in the "Reports" section.

No flame guys, just a discussion in the wrong place!

Evianist
04-21-10, 04:27
I think the problem is that a lot of guys have never had any experience in dating young, very attractive women in real life.

Then they head over to Thailand and are forced to do so for the first time with hardened professionals who extract money from men for a living.

It's a situation where the guys never really have a chance.


It's too bad these guys aren't forced to undergo some sort of mental training before arriving in Thailand, because these "sponsors" really ruin things for those of us looking for decent service at fair prices from attractive bargirls.

Saint Mint
04-21-10, 07:57
Moved here as maybe more appropriate

Cunning Stunt
Hahahaha - begs the question of if you have seen my dick so many times and don't really need to see it again, then why open the links? Couldn't you resist the urge?

Furthermore as it was encased in a big red party balloon, you couldn't really see a great deal of the offending organ. Also rather difficult to omit it in a photo of it buried in the ladies pussy and being given oral attention.

Sp whats your real problem?

Saint Mint

Hahahaha - All right I was lying. I, secretly, love seeing your super dick. Especially wrapped up in a strawberry condom. I spend all day, surfing the net, hoping to come across your super dick. I am quite partial to chocolate. So, wrapping it in this would really throw me over the edge. But, I just think, this might not be the place for your super dick. Isn’t there a special place for these pictures? Just think of all the people who, visit this special place and, are missing out. Remember, we are talking about a hotel and girls. Get yourself a banner? I certainly will not be able to resist the urge to click on it.

Member #3428
04-21-10, 11:24
I agree with you that it's better to give your money to a whor* than a government thug, but, sadly, you can't deduct it as a charity on your tax return.Depends how creative you get and what country you are from. :D Some of us from certain countries are lucky enough we can write off daily allowance, travel, and more in a lump sum per day.

Rocksoff
04-21-10, 12:44
$70 a week is nothing to me

So what are you asking for "intel" for? Why force her to make up some bullshit story? It's undignified. Just send the money already.

Amjeck
04-21-10, 12:58
These girls have names for guys like you and it's not always Jai Dee. By giving them money for nothing, you'll get a lot of "love" and attention, but I doubt if you'll get any respect.

Are guys actually looking for respect from thai prostitutes? Trying to gain respect from any thai is a daunting task!

Sammon
04-21-10, 13:49
I think the problem is that a lot of guys have never had any experience in dating young, very attractive women in real life.

Then they head over to Thailand and are forced to do so for the first time with hardened professionals who extract money from men for a living.

It's a situation where the guys never really have a chance.


It's too bad these guys aren't forced to undergo some sort of mental training before arriving in Thailand, because these "sponsors" really ruin things for those of us looking for decent service at fair prices from attractive bargirls.

It is very true. It is not easy to date young attractive girls in the west.
This why sex tourism is prevalent. And these girls even though demand money act like your GF.

Starchild2012
04-21-10, 15:05
I have never seen such a small amount of of money, make such a difference anywhere. Every year we pay millions of dollars to these corporate charities, they give often less than 10 percent to the real poor recipients. I have always been top producer in anything I have done, I take the most sophisticated professionals to the cleaners daily. No body is pulling wool over my eyes.

I help these women freely. I am currently not a some retiree on fixed income, with my sincerest respect to all retirees. $70 a week is nothing to me it's like piss to me, I would rather spend it to help some poor hooker, whose family and village and as**hole lazy Thailand (their elitist cast system/over population) and their lazy fu*K Thai males have, abandoned to the wolves. Never understood the lack of valor with these Thai men.

I think will always sponsor some poor Asian hooker/prostitute. I hope she has 10-15 other guys on the hook, I say good for her. Guys are so chintzy, to show that "no body is taking advantage of me". Perhaps it's part of cumming in their mouths treating them like sh*t. Perhaps the first step is to first dehumanize these lost poor souls.

PS. my respects to all the senior members, I always appreciate your experience & wisdom. Who knows perhaps by post number #835 my views may change. Time will tell.


Good for you. Personally, i have respect for sponsors, atleast they have a big heart. And these are folks, who make bar girls tick when the going gets tough. I have long long long time ago accepted that people can cheat me, take advantage of me, that bar girls are for money and they have 100 other sponsors, they don't love me, they love my money etc etc.....thats why i kept my user name born loser....

I don't want to be smart for few dollars, a luxury car and a big apartment...now my life is much more easier and i can do many things, that i couldn't do by wasting my time fighting the system.

I can see things more clearly what is really going on behind the facade of they call monetary system.

Saint Mint
04-21-10, 15:55
Good for you. Personally, i have respect for sponsors, atleast they have a big heart. And these are folks, who make bar girls tick when the going gets tough. I have long long long time ago accepted that people can cheat me, take advantage of me, that bar girls are for money and they have 100 other sponsors, they don't love me, they love my money etc etc.....thats why i kept my user name born loser.

I don't want to be smart for few dollars, a luxury car and a big apartment...now my life is much more easier and i can do many things, that i couldn't do by wasting my time fighting the system.

I can see things more clearly what is really going on behind the facade of they call monetary system.Best report I have read in weeks. Should be in the 'Reports of Distinction' section.

Saint Mint
04-21-10, 15:57
Are guys actually looking for respect from thai prostitutes? Trying to gain respect from any thai is a daunting task!Have to comment on this one. When you say 'respect from any Thai is a daunting task,' what are you basing this on? There are many Thais, working side by side with falangs, in many International Companies. Especially on the many Industrial Estates. Bangplee, Bangpoo, Hi-Tech, Amata Nakorn, Amata City, Eastern Seaboard etc. I have seen and, enjoyed a lot of respect from people working in some of these Industrial Estates. I worked in one for more than ten years and, in the course of buisiess, visited many others.

Saint Mint
04-21-10, 15:58
I think the problem is that a lot of guys have never had any experience in dating young, very attractive women in real life.

Then they head over to Thailand and are forced to do so for the first time with hardened professionals who extract money from men for a living.

It's a situation where the guys never really have a chance.

It's too bad these guys aren't forced to undergo some sort of mental training before arriving in Thailand, because these "sponsors" really ruin things for those of us looking for decent service at fair prices from attractive bargirls.Sounds like the voice of experience. Did you fall into the trap as well? I did for sure!! Yep, the days of attracting the young attractive bar girls, for 500 Baht, are long gone. Left overs on the beach cost that now. We must not forget that the big spending Japanese and Koreans are also creating havoc. Splashing out 5,000 Baht + per night. I fear that, even if the guys were forced to do some kind of mental training, it will not make any difference. The rules of the game have changed and, the good old days will never return.

Rjsss212
04-21-10, 16:16
I think the problem is that a lot of guys have never had any experience in dating young, very attractive women in real life.

Then they head over to Thailand and are forced to do so for the first time with hardened professionals who extract money from men for a living.

It's a situation where the guys never really have a chance.


It's too bad these guys aren't forced to undergo some sort of mental training before arriving in Thailand, because these "sponsors" really ruin things for those of us looking for decent service at fair prices from attractive bargirls.

So I read this post. Then I read it again, and again and I can only infer that you were just checking to see if anyone was paying attention. Or, was it something else…

[Quote] “I think the problem is that a lot of guys have never had any experience in dating young, very attractive women in real life.” [Quote]

No, probably not and I guess you probably have this one locked up but exactly what gave it away??? His posting on a SEX forum, admitting he spends thousands of dollars on prostitutes in underdeveloped countries and has for a while or was it something else?

[Quote] Then they head over to Thailand and are forced to do so for the first time with hardened professionals who extract money from men for a living. [Quote]

Forced!?! Hmmm, now how does that work? Did he fall into some secret underground mongering trafficking ring operating in BKK?
I had a couple of “hardened professionals” last week in the Caribbean who, just as you are suggesting, extracted money from me! In fact they said they do it for a living!!! I KNOW!!! YOUR AS SHOCKED AS I AM..............I’m just hoping they will still be there when I return next week…

[Quote] It's a situation where the guys never really have a chance. [Quote]

A chance at what? Sounds like he’s got what he’s looking for.


[Quote] It's too bad these guys aren't forced to undergo some sort of mental training before arriving in Thailand, because these "sponsors" really ruin things for those of us looking for decent service at fair prices from attractive bargirls. [Quote]

This is the best part. Now who exactly would perform this “forced mental training”? Is there something you want to share with us about these fantasies of yours????? Its OK. After a few drinks, the lights dim, it’s a balmy Bangkok nite and everyones hands are roaming everwhere and the music is working it magic and all that manly “forced mental training” is going on all around you, its easy to get aroused. Please relax your inhibitions and tell us more about these fantasies……and then explain the ruined state of the Thailand P4P sex scene....

Goyave
04-21-10, 18:50
I have never seen such a small amount of of money, make such a difference anywhere...

Just for your information, what you send (6000 baht every 3 weeks, that's about 8667 baht/month) is slightly less than the average monthly wage in Thailand (8848 bahts per month at the end of year 2008, according to the Bangkok Post Economic Review (http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4504/ber2009p6.gif)). Therefore, for the "average Thai", that makes a difference.

The rest of your post seems a bit "trollish" to me (just my humble opinion), so, I won't comment on it, but I really laughed my ass off when I read your post scriptum...


PS. my respects to all the senior members, I always appreciate your experience & wisdom. Who knows perhaps by post number #835 my views may change. Time will tell.

Well, let's see! You've been a member here since... July, 24th 2003! And you've posted only two reports so far. In almost 7 years! Sorry, but I won't hold my breath. I'm only in my early forties, but if you keep that pace, I'm afraid I won't be there to read your 835th contribution in these forums! :D

Seriously, why have not you posted anything earlier, mate?

Amjeck
04-22-10, 03:43
Good for you. Personally, i have respect for sponsors, atleast they have a big heart.
A big heart won't get you very far in Thailand. In fact, it's a weakness. But most sponsors are weak people anyways.

Legal Tender
04-22-10, 06:22
A big heart won't get you very far in Thailand. In fact, it's a weakness. But most sponsors are weak people anyways.

No, most sponsors have more money than they need to enjoy the lifestyle they have chosen. And, all of this discussion about "being used" or not having "respect" from these girls that are just trying to survive, is dismaying. Don't ever do anything that you don't want to do! I say: "live your fantasy even if you are old, probably a little fat, and maybe bald. You know, those that sleep with their mouths open. Look in the dictionary you will see their photo. Jackson needs to add this to the definitions. Yep, those are the folks that have the cash to "sponsor". The old fuckers often get the cream of the crop? Now, is that fair. And, applying rudimentary economic reality, these sponsorships tend to increase the price from the casual buyer. Hey, don't blame me, I just the messenger.

And, who gives a shit whether your little darling has a number of sponsors, as long as she is not servicing another sponsor when your are a sponsor and are with her. Not likely unless you are into threesomes with someone that looks like you. My answer is, no thanks.

Fuck, respect yourself. If a sponsorship is your choice, then own it. Besides, all this "respect" bullshit is really a reflection of ego, and it is an insecure one who is looking for respect from a young girl who sells her body for her bread. At least when you die there will be at least one person who will think that your life had meaning. Get it?

Evianist
04-22-10, 06:28
If you want to have a big heart then maybe you should donate to an orphanage or people who really need it.

If you haven't noticed, working girls in thailand aren't exactly starving.


Sponsoring them has no practical purpose.

11Bravo
04-22-10, 06:51
A big heart won't get you very far in Thailand.I don't know about that... got me into Bumrungrad :)

Amjeck
04-22-10, 07:01
And, who gives a shit whether your little darling has a number of sponsors, as long as she is not servicing another sponsor when your are a sponsor and are with her.
I've literally fucked thai girls as they are on the phone to their sponsors in a western country. My cock slides in and out of their pussy as they say "thanks babe for the western union.... I love you too...." Then I tell them in Thai "dumb farang" and they nod in agreement.

IMO if you sponsor a prostitute you are a fool. If you pick a non-pro quality girl who deserves sponsoring, then that is something different.

It's your life and can do what you want, but I'm entitled to my opinion.

Daddy07
04-22-10, 07:10
...The old fuckers often get the cream of the crop? Now, is that fair. And, applying rudimentary economic reality, these sponsorships tend to increase the price from the casual buyer. Hey, don't blame me, I just the messenger...
Hey, I'm one of the "old fuckers" enjoying the cream of the crop. Of course it's fair. I don't have to sponsor them -- I fuck them while their sponsors sit at home wanking at their computers while wiring them money. I pay them less than the tourist market rates because of all the sponsor gravy they're getting.

And, I also enjoy their respect, if only for the fact that they know I'm not a damned fool.

GoodEnough
04-22-10, 08:26
I've literally fucked thai girls as they are on the phone to their sponsors in a western country. My cock slides in and out of their pussy as they say "thanks babe for the western union.... I love you too...." Then I tell them in Thai "dumb farang" and they nod in agreement.

IMO if you sponsor a prostitute you are a fool. If you pick a non-pro quality girl who deserves sponsoring, then that is something different.

It's your life and can do what you want, but I'm entitled to my opinion.
And your opinion is absolutely correct, not only in Thailand but in the Philippines (where I live) and in Cambodia (where I am now) as well. The fact is that the two week wonders who come over to this part of the world and fall instantly in love with some bar girl do not and never will get it. They don't stay long enough to learn anything, and they remain absolutely convinced, despite what they may read on forums like this, that their girls are "different." All that those of us who live here can do is shake our collective heads in wonderment at the naivete of these guys.

GE

InventionGuy
04-22-10, 12:41
Once again I don't care, I don't want any respect from a Thai hooker, it's all about money with these girls. A PHD. Psychologist, once told me, "that not a single human action is done without motivation."

Even the posts here including our mongering fraternity and sharing of intel, is to prevent price inflation, and to share the efficient access to the tasty female Thai flesh. All selfish reasons for every single individual reader/member.

My sponsorship of 6000-9000-10,000+ bht per month (depending on my mood), itself is a form of entertainment and perhaps a form of control over these women. I make her do things with her life, usually for the better. Now for free pussy & respect, If I put my life on hold to live in Thailand (ie. Not fight the west's economic jungle). I would probably pay nothing for the pussy, and I would probably screw some girls for free.

Bending some hookers mind to give it up for free is not too difficult. I am neither fat, old, short or bald. A many 25 year old pretty and financially independent*keyword* females, regularly chase me. Of course we all have our Thai hooker, fetish on the side.

Now back to the topic, those same gals that some of our expats are doing for free, have their own motivations (motives such as to perhaps to get out of LOS, or may the Thai Media's fascination with half falang babies, or it could be a thai/farang rebound) These Thai Nymphs perhaps have ten other Expat farangs they do on the side;. More hooks in water to get out of their lot.

I find it amusing, for the expat farangs on this board to think, they are special. It's just a market of flesh, buying and selling. Demand and supply in the carnival of flesh. You all sponsor them and your selves in your own way.

Betong
04-22-10, 14:08
When you say 'respect from any Thai is a daunting task,' what are you basing this on?I think it's a fair statement as regards tourists, especially sex tourists. But then tourists really don't need the respect of locals, so it's not that big a deal.

If you live and work here, then respect from your colleagues isn't an option -- it's a necessity. Like you, I haven't found it hard to earn. And if you can't earn it on merit, then money, power, and age will generally do it.

Member #3428
04-22-10, 14:11
And your opinion is absolutely correct.... GECome on GE. Of course the two week millionaires are always fun to laugh at but when you travel and live in the region and a working girl you've known and fucked and enjoy asks you for the equivalent of 100 USD to help for whatever reason what's wrong with giving it?

I'll flush that 100 bucks as usually it comes back to me in terms of performance, freebies, on call duties, introduction of friends, being first customer of new girls, "special" services not normally offered etc. So I look at it as an investment.

I guess some folks think giving a girl 2,000 baht or 3,000 baht to be sponsoring. And to me that's not sponsoring that's flushing with hopes of it being an investment to be paid back later. And if it is not paid back in full later by services rendered then I'm not sorry to see that 100 bucks to go bye bye.

I'll just say there is a difference between fronting a few baht or peso and full time monthly remittances IMHO. Just remember whatever you give a girl say good bye to it without ever expecting to see it or services again. If you can give the money without harming yourself or your family and feeling OK about flushing it then so what.

Overall, my track record on the 100 USD equivalent fronting of funds in peso and baht, my investment record is pretty damn good.

Gaolei
04-22-10, 18:51
Years ago, I ran across a Lao woman dancing in a gogo in Patpong. I was staying in a local hotel while working in Bangkok. I would walk through the Patpong every night for something to do. I saw her and realized she was really out of place. She was very skinny and not good looking. She was never going to make any money. We talked and I found she just started her career working the bars. She had kids and parents to support, much like nearly every girl working the bars in Thailand.

I would often stop to see her and slip her a hundred baht. Our agreement was that she would sit with me and keep the buy-me-drink girls away while I watched the dancers. She got the cash and I avoided buying worthless drinks for a woman who really needed cash. One woman at the bar asked why I did it. I just said she is my lucky. She understood.

I often buy a meal for a girl or slip her a few baht for her time sitting with me. It is a good thing to do for someone who is living as a prostitute in a situation most of us could never imagine our daughters in. I think it gets me more merit than the Thais who make breakfast for the monks that I often see in Pantit buying MP3s for their Ipods. Try it some time. You may be surprised that you like it.

AndyBKK
04-23-10, 00:41
Anyone knows how much the Russian "Euporeans" girls are charging on Walking st? There a couple of bars there and I peeked in, but was with my Gf so didnt have the opp to inquiry.

Amex Spg
04-23-10, 04:56
-I do prefer 18. 22 y/o tanned/brown spinners ideally < 100 lbs, < 5 ft 3 in (< 46 kg, < 160 cm) with natural be cups and long, unhighlighted/uncolored hair, who haven't had any kids.

-I love the Go-Gos mostly because of their lack of clothing. I like them in the shower or doing the jacuzzi thing, but I'm not interested in the 22:00ish shows or sleazy stuff.

1) A-Go-Gos

A) Superbaby. Open 20:00. 03:00,

Pros: hottest girls

Cons: expensive, you have to pay the total cost to the waitress/mamasan before pulling the escort (bar fine + ST or LT prices which are non-negotiable), escorts will do a BJ only with a condom on (so of course there's no CIM)

B) Supergirl. Open 20:00. 03:00

Pros: after Superbaby it has the hottest girls; escorts dancing on stage and in the jacuzzi are a little livelier than at Superbaby

Cons: same as Superbaby

Misc: Superbaby and Supergirl have the same owners and caters to Japanese clientèle

C) Airport. 20:00. 04:00, http://bit. Ly/c0ygUP

Pros: hot airline/stewardess motif and outfits

Cons: expensive, Heineken draft is Baht 85 ($3)

Misc: Superbaby+Supergirl+Airport are my top three favorite Go-Gos

D) Peppermint. Closes at 03:00 (or is it 04:00?)

Pros: biggest(?) collection of escorts, Baht 59 ($2) draft beer happy hour

Cons: in April 2010 there were few hot girls

E) Beach. Closes at 04:00

Pros: Baht 59 ($2) draft beer happy hour

Cons: in April 2010 there were few hot girls

F) Baccara

Pros: Baht 59 ($2) draft beer happy hour, easy chair around the stage are most comfortable client seats in any Pattaya Go-Go

Cons: no comment

Misc: Baccara, Angelwitch, Beer Garden, Lolitas (BJ specialty) and Devil's Den (threesome specialty) all have branches in Bangkok

G) What's Up Playgirl

Pros: girls swinging over your head using the o-rings dangling from the ceiling

Cons: expensive

H) Iron

Pros: no comment

Cons: Baht 215 ($7) for a lady drink shot

I) Happy

Pros: Baht 59 ($2) draft beer happy hour

Cons: no comment

J) Champions

Pros: Baht 35 ($1) draft beer happy hour

Cons: I've never seen a single attractive girl in there

K) Beavers

Pros: Baht 55 ($2) draft beer happy hour

Cons: rarely attractive girls inside

L) Roxy

Pros: Baht 65 ($2) bottled Chang beer

Cons: no comment

M) Windmill

Pros: Baht 45 ($1. 50) draft beer happy hour

Cons: too sleazy for me (eg audience members fingerbanging escorts, etc; that stuff should be in a private room)

N) Misty's

Pros: no comment

Cons: too sleazy for me (escorts with strap ons screwing each other, etc)

O) Tramps, Utopia

Pros: cheap draft beer happy hour

Cons: both Go-Gos had few girls, all of them unappealing

P) Angelwitch

Pros: they have the best shows, one part involving a boa constrictor

Cons: expensive

2) Discos aka Dance Clubs

Pros: good for picking up freelancers/amateurs; no escorts asking you to buy them a lady drink

Cons: they tend to have expensive drinks; bathroom attendants are irritating (trying to massage you/crack your back, etc, while you're using the urinal or sink, then expecting a Baht 20+ tip)

Misc: Soi 6 closes at 01:00 and the Go-Gos are closed by 03:00 or 04:00, so whenever the escorts get off work some will migrate to the discos

A) Candyshop

Pros: DJ+live band playing pop music, good lighting to see what the girls look like

Cons: no comment

B) Tony's

Pros: place looks nice

Cons: clientele always seems shady to me so I avoid Tony's

C) Lucifer's

Pros: huge; front 1/3 has a live band and rear 2/3 has a large dance club

Cons: dark so tough to see what the girls look like

D) Marine

Pros: large dance floor

Cons: no comment

Misc: recommend going here around 01:00. 03:00

E) Insomnia

Pros: they have hired dancers to dance on the go-go stages; I think they have the cheapest drinks of all the discos; open until around 08:00

Cons: cramped

Misc: recommend going here after you're done with Marine Disco

3) Misc

A) Pattaya Beer Garden

Pros: nice location over the water, fairly good food at reasonable prices

Cons: available freelancers there never seem hot and are unwilling to go ST 500 or LT 1, 000

B) Dream Teen Pattaya massage. www.Dream-teen-massage.com

Pros: good massage

Cons: difficult to locate (it's directly east of Siam Bayview Hotel/Central Festival), girls were ok looking

Misc: Pim, my masseuse, was 23 y/o with one kid; she kept her clothes on even when showering me; during the "ball massage" portion she offered a hand job if I would tip her Baht 500 ($16), BJ for Baht 1, 000 ($32) and BJ+intercourse for Baht 1, 500 ($48), amount of tip for each service was negotiable

C) Lolitas. BJ specialty, www.Lolitaspattaya.com

Pros: opens at 10:00, free pick-up service

Cons: girls ok looking

D) Soi 6 businesses. Open 13:00. 01:00, ST specialty

Pros: total cost of Baht 800 ($25) or Baht 1, 000 ($32) for full service from escort and use of the ST room upstairs (= Baht 300 to bar for the barfine and use of the ST room + Baht 500 or Baht 700 to the escort)

Cons: no comment

Goyave
04-23-10, 07:10
Once again I don't care...

... I find it amusing, for the expat farangs on this board to think, they are special. It's just a market of flesh, buying and selling. Demand and supply in the carnival of flesh. You all sponsor them and your selves in your own way.

We still don't know why you haven't posted a single report for almost 7 years. Read again the end of this post: 1011925

I don't understand what you really want to know with your first post ever in these forums. As it seems, reading your second and third posts, you are not really seeking any "battlefield" intelligence or advice. But your contributions are more and more "trollish", at least, to my eyes.

Anyway, this discussion might interest other members, but IMHO, it really should take place in another thread: this one (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1036), if you really require our opinions and advice about your Thai girlfriend, or this other thread (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3065), if you want to discuss about the mores of the local expatriates in Thailand.

Saint Mint
04-23-10, 07:15
Once again I don't care, I don't want any respect from a Thai hooker, it's all about money with these girls. A PHD. Psychologist, once told me, "that not a single human action is done without motivation."

Even the posts here including our mongering fraternity and sharing of intel, is to prevent price inflation, and to share the efficient access to the tasty female Thai flesh. All selfish reasons for every single individual reader/member.

My sponsorship of 6000-9000-10,000+ bht per month (depending on my mood), itself is a form of entertainment and perhaps a form of control over these women. I make her do things with her life, usually for the better. Now for free pussy & respect, If I put my life on hold to live in Thailand (ie. Not fight the west's economic jungle). I would probably pay nothing for the pussy, and I would probably screw some girls for free.

Bending some hookers mind to give it up for free is not too difficult. I am neither fat, old, short or bald. A many 25 year old pretty and financially independent*keyword* females, regularly chase me. Of course we all have our Thai hooker, fetish on the side.

Now back to the topic, those same gals that some of our expats are doing for free, have their own motivations (motives such as to perhaps to get out of LOS, or may the Thai Media's fascination with half falang babies, or it could be a thai/farang rebound) These Thai Nymphs perhaps have ten other Expat farangs they do on the side;. More hooks in water to get out of their lot.

I find it amusing, for the expat farangs on this board to think, they are special. It's just a market of flesh, buying and selling. Demand and supply in the carnival of flesh. You all sponsor them and your selves in your own way.I have been on both sides of the fence. Both times I have felt comfortable and uncomfortable.

Sponsoring. Comfortable with sending money but, uncomfortable when, sometimes, she called the next day to say she had spent it.

Ex-Pat Living in Thailand. For me, there is nothing worse that being in bed with a girl and the phone rings. If it is a sponsor she will be running into the bathroom, upstairs, downstairs or outside. If it is her Thai husband/boyfriend again she will seek somewhere private. For me this is uncomfortable. I usually leave.

Daddy07
04-23-10, 07:30
...I find it amusing, for the expat farangs on this board to think, they are special. It's just a market of flesh, buying and selling. Demand and supply in the carnival of flesh. You all sponsor them and your selves in your own way.
It is amusing, isn't it? And greatly entertaining too! We all do what we want. If it's sponsoring Thai girls to control them from afar ... what ever turns you on.

In my long productive life, I've never felt particularly special until I came here to the Land of Smiles ... now on a daily basis I have a variety of pretty young girls calling me; begging for the privilege of selling their pristine flesh to me; and satisfying my lust for a pittance. They treat me like a king. I give them a little money.

You're right ... it's a carnival of flesh... It's paradise on earth, my friend.

I feel special!

InventionGuy
04-23-10, 08:59
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I will post more. Now that I have a dog in the hunt.

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Slackerslacker
04-23-10, 13:17
A PHD. Psychologist, once told me, "that not a single human action is done without motivation."Really? a "PHD" Psychologist figured it out all by himself?

Last night, while sleeping, I continued the action of breathing, but I'm not sure what my motivation was. Oh, and my heart kept beating too.

But I'm sure what he meant was: "volitional action". But you don't need to be a "PHD" psychologist to know this. In fact, it is true by definition. It is also true for all sentient beings.

DG69
04-23-10, 14:20
Anyone knows how much the Russian "Euporeans" girls are charging on Walking st? There a couple of bars there and I peeked in, but was with my Gf so didnt have the opp to inquiry.

Just ask them! They will not kill you, just maybe ignore you. Can't say that the "Russian girls" whose stroll up and down walking street are hot to me. Infact they are not Russian, but Usbeks, Kazaks and the like. Nevertheless ones I asked one of those Ladies, how much they charge, just out of couriosity. If I remember right it was 1000 for ST.
There are some pretty Russian Tourists sometimes at the clubs "Insomnia, Marine Disco and the other Club at end of Walking Street (I forgot the name). They might go for free if they like you. Maybe they are also for sale, but I don't know the price...

Betong
04-23-10, 14:57
For me, there is nothing worse that being in bed with a girl and the phone rings. If it is a sponsor she will be running into the bathroom, upstairs, downstairs or outside.Stick around. Eventually she'll just answer it with you right there. Then the next step is to lick her pussy while she's on the line. Seriously.

Goyave
04-23-10, 15:08
... Then the next step is to lick her pussy while she's on the line. Seriously.

Even more fun: just (gently) sodomize her! (been there, done that!)

Hotman 666
04-23-10, 16:42
Anyone knows how much the Russian "Euporeans" girls are charging on Walking st? There a couple of bars there and I peeked in, but was with my Gf so didnt have the opp to inquiry.
Late last year I had a “Russian” in Pattaya. (I actually think that she was Uzbek or Kazak.)
Found her during the day sitting, alone, on Beach Rd.
She told me that it was her 1st time in Thailand although she had “worked” in Dubai before and that had not been so lucky with customers in Thailand.
Offered me short time at my hotel for 2000 Baht! I responded by telling her that I would give her the same “Happy Hour” rate as I gave to the Thai Beach Rd girls. 500 Baht!
Initially she said NO but after I explained that she could either come with me and earn some money or spend the rest of the afternoon sitting and waiting she seemed to warm to the idea.
She spoke reasonable English so after I had bought her a coffee and had a chat to convince her that I was a “nice guy” she agreed and ended up staying with me for around 2.1/2 hours.
Most enjoyable and excellent service.
I remember her BBBJ well. (It was THE BEST no hands BJ that I have EVER had!!!)
Give it a try,
Hotman.

Kermit2048
04-24-10, 14:09
Sorry for the long delay between parts 1 and 2. My musings have been interrupted by a number of events, including volcanic ash and its effects on Mrs K2k's travel plans.

Day 3

I was greeted by a freelancer on Beach Road at 11am as I headed to my usual deck chair on Pattaya beach. She didn't particularly interest me, but I was tempted purely because of the time of day. I decided to decline the offer and spent a pleasant day on the beach.

I was leaving the beach at about 6pm when I spotted Nok. Turned out to be 36 but looked 26 to my untrained eyes. We agreed 1000 baht for all night and headed back to Pasadena Lodge. She provided a decent BBBJ and sex in a few positions before I finished doggy style. She then promptly fell asleep (I thought that was my privilege after a good shag). I let her sleep until 9pm when I was more than ready for round 2. I was just waking her up when her phone rang and, you guessed it, she had to go. She was off to Bangkok to see the "big Buddha" and her friends were leaving in half an hour. Did I want to come? Yes, I did, but not in the way she meant so I gave her 500 baht and wished her well. She took my phone number and promised she would call the next night, but I didn't think I would be seeing her again.

I did think about going to Lolitas for round 2, but I noticed on the way back to the hotel that none of the girls were in uniform. This just did not seem right somehow, so I had an early night without any more fun.

Day 4

I had read about the post-breakfast BJ at Lolitas from another poster, and decided I had to give it a go, especially as I had missed out the previous night. So, even though the girls were still not in uniform I picked the best looking one from outside and took her upstairs. The magic incantation "Do it how I like and I pay you 1, 000 baht" worked just as well with this girl as with the last one. She gave an exellent, unrushed BBBJ/CIM service and earned her money. On the way back down the stairs we were met by another punter and girl on their way up. I am not sure of the etiquette in these situations (I would be grateful for suggestions from the experienced members of the forum) but settled on looking the other way, until they had passed us.

After another day on the beach I actually received a call from Nok. With the poor quality phone signal and the quality of Nok's English it was difficult to glean any information from the call. But it did raise my expectation that I might be seeing her again. Then she called later and said that she would be at the hotel at 9pm and, amazingly, arrived only 10 minutes late. This time she did stay the whole night and earned her 1000 baht with three rounds, each just as good as the night before.

Day 5

In the search for variety I had to try a Pattaya soapy. So in the afternoon I headed over to Sabai Rooms, a big white building on Second Road at the northern end of Pattaya. I picked a little cutie who was numbered 129 and had a nice smile. I had high hopes for this encounter which, at 1, 800 baht, was my most expensive to date.

Unfortunately the experience was hugely disappointing. The only purpose of the bath appeared to be to ensure that I was clean, with no attempt at stimulation at all. The body to body massage involved her rubbing my back with her front. When I turned over she gave me a towel and indicated that we would resume on the bed. When she joined me on the bed she immediately decided to put a condom on me, even though I was only semi-erect. I indicated that a little manual stimulation was required but she ignored this until she had got the condom on. I suppose her ability to perform this trick was the most interesting part of the entire service.

She then climbed on top of me and tried to mount me cow girl style which was impossible due to my under-aroused state. I persuaded her to get off and give me a hand job instead, which she did, but she insisted the condom stayed on. It took a great deal of mental effort on my part but I did manage to pop after a long time. When I paid her the agreed amount she said "You have tip for me? ". Well, of course I did, the tip was "find yourself a job in another industry". I just answered no, which did not seem to surprise her.

K2k

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Bonzo1
04-24-10, 17:13
Hi all

Calling on creative minds -- for fun ideas!

Despite all that's going on in Bangkok, I'm heavily considering going to Pattaya next month. I will have a difficult time however convincing friends to join me on this one (more risk averse than I am).

Anyhoo, I'd like to get ideas for a 40th bday celebration (or multiple ones). I'll likely stay in a villa with a private pool, so that could factor in. Budget not a concern.

The key for me is that I'm aiming for something totally original from my prior (10 or so) trips in Thailand (plus hundreds of big nights in China, Japan, etc.). I'm thinking day/night with a group of gals at my villa, and perhaps one big night at a bar. Suggestions? Activities? Experiences outside the usual "go to a go-go/beer bar/etc and picked up a girl for the night" that might be good for this kind of thing? I'm open to ANY ideas.

Asking for fun creative input. Hoping that we can share ideas, and I'll share as well.

Thanks in advance.

-B-

Evianist
04-24-10, 17:51
Anyhoo, I'd like to get ideas for a 40th bday celebration (or multiple ones). I'll likely stay in a villa with a private pool, so that could factor in. Budget not a concern.


I know Secrets Hotel has a villa with pool. Never tried it myself though.

http://www.secretspattaya.com/villa/

GregLondon
04-25-10, 00:57
Depending on how many guys you have got you could take some or all of the rooms on the 5th floor of the Penthouse hotel . Most of the Party rooms have two double beds sex swings double jazuzzis etc etc I think they will alos let you have a private party in the swimming pool. I know 2 guys did their 50th birthday there with 15 girls.


Hi all

Calling on creative minds -- for fun ideas!

Despite all that's going on in Bangkok, I'm heavily considering going to Pattaya next month. I will have a difficult time however convincing friends to join me on this one (more risk averse than I am).

Anyhoo, I'd like to get ideas for a 40th bday celebration (or multiple ones). I'll likely stay in a villa with a private pool, so that could factor in. Budget not a concern.

The key for me is that I'm aiming for something totally original from my prior (10 or so) trips in Thailand (plus hundreds of big nights in China, Japan, etc.). I'm thinking day/night with a group of gals at my villa, and perhaps one big night at a bar. Suggestions? Activities? Experiences outside the usual "go to a go-go/beer bar/etc and picked up a girl for the night" that might be good for this kind of thing? I'm open to ANY ideas.

Asking for fun creative input. Hoping that we can share ideas, and I'll share as well.

Thanks in advance.

-B-

Pointy Stick
04-25-10, 01:50
Anyone knows how much the Russian "Euporeans" girls are charging on Walking st? There a couple of bars there and I peeked in, but was with my Gf so didnt have the opp to inquiry.

I got quoted 800 bht ST from a petite 30+ Russian.

I really think it depends on who you are and your manner. No offence to anyone but if you're Indian or Arab I think you'll be shelling out 2k but of course this depends on the girl herself.

Maybe it better to try the subway place on sukhimvit in BKK.

Run Mann
04-25-10, 04:57
On the way back down the stairs we were met by another punter and girl on their way up. I am not sure of the etiquette in these situations (I would be grateful for suggestions from the experienced members of the forum) but settled on looking the other way, until they had passed us.

You're two men with similar interest crossing paths in the same establishment, in close quarters. I'd say at least a basic greeting or acknowledgment would be in order. I've been in this situation on a few occasions and exchanged the standard verbal greeting or head nod acknowledgement with the other punter while reviewing his selection as I’m sure he was taking a look at mine. Some girls are real playful and sometimes will make casual comments or smile/grin to lighten the mood.

Member #3428
04-25-10, 05:18
You're two men with similar interest crossing paths in the same establishment, in close quarters. I'd say at least a basic greeting or acknowledgment would be in order. I've been in this situation on a few occasions and exchanged the standard verbal greeting or head nod acknowledgement with the other punter while reviewing his selection as I’m sure he was taking a look at mine. Some girls are real playful and sometimes will make casual comments or smile/grin to lighten the mood.Agree, this happens to me on soi 6 all the time. And usually the punter is with a girl I've already had. Hell we've even walked into a room they were just leaving at times. We just smile and nod or discuss / rate the performances. Actually, a few times the punter and I have ended up crossing paths again, hoisting a few and compared notes.

Amjeck
04-25-10, 13:13
I'll flush that 100 bucks as usually it comes back to me in terms of performance, freebies, on call duties, introduction of friends, being first customer of new girls, "special" services not normally offered etc. So I look at it as an investment.


Can you elaborate on this a bit? This sounds interesting.

Member #3428
04-25-10, 14:21
Can you elaborate on this a bit? This sounds interesting.Not that hard of a concept really but one that goes against what most mongers do and one I'll get flamed for but we all have our own styles.

First I don't give money to girls I just meet or just know so it's not like I'm throwing money to every tramp that walks by. Second its not every day I'm donating 100 USD. But I travel to PI, BKK and recently Chonburi often so I get known at certain places and get known by a decent amount of girls.

If a girl is in a pinch and need some cash I don't mind fronting 1. 3 K baht (or a couple thousand peso) to them. Usually in return they will come over when I call them, come before work or after work to my room saving me bar fines, service me for no pay later to pay off their debt at a reduced rate (2 for 1), bring over or introduce a new girl to me (fresh meat on the market), do a three some or offer up anal, video, pictures, etc. To me when they don't do with most others. But they are girls I've been with before and from places that know me well.

Say for example I go to Walking Street and I pick up a girl and she pulls a "I only want short time BS to me after we start". Or I nail her two times and she wants to run for the hills and take just taxi money to get the hell away from me (has been known to happen), so I got some names and numbers of girls to come over at 3 am who know what I like and what to do and will show up without any fuss or muss. Or say I want to tap something at 9 or 10 am (pretty hard to find quality at that hour in Pattay atleast for me) so I can just send some text messages and get one to come over easily.

I also do not mind buying up some vendor food for ladies waiting their turn for a handsum man to pick them even if I'm not going to nail them that day. I also usually will buy a Black Label or some bottle for the girls at the bars I normally go to for the girls to drink up the day or two before I leave (1,000 baht for a bottle per each bar, big deal). I like having a big rolodex of girls to call on in various parts of the world for the "worst case scenerio's" etc. This has served me well over the years. Plus the word on what I like, how I like it usually spreads very fast around the bars I frequent.

So for me to front up some cash it's not a big deal and the ROI (return on investments) usually come back double what I put out. True and of course I've had some investments that did not pan out but I'm equal or above in most things. I do better at this investment then the stock market.

Recent examples. A girl gets a new apartment (7,000 baht a month), is studying english (4 K a month), and is taking care of family in Isaan (15 K a month). She can't make rent she says. She has no sponsor. She asks for some cash to help that month due to fewer customers. I front some cash, 4,000 baht. She says she will open up her apartment to me to stay there (soi AR). Can bring girls with me and / or she will bring girls to join us. Normally or lately I've stayed at a serviced apartment where a 1 bedroom apartment is 800 baht a night on Soi AR. So now at worst case, I get a fall back apartment to take girls to, and or I get her and a friend of hers and other favors, or just stay with her as she and her friends know I'm a major whatre.

How do I know this will come true? Because when she lived on Naklur (spelling?) Soi 27 I had her old room key and nailed her room mates for free (Feb 2010). She would stay in my apartment, I'd wake up motorbike to her room and nail her room mates. I paid their rent that month, 4 K, and I got free access to their room and between the legs of the room mates (yes even a few times while they were talking on the phone to their sponsors.) for two plus weeks (18 days).

Another example. Girl needs to sell her home, she already owes me money, she asked for a few more baht. I did, and she did sell her home and she put the money in my K bank account. This is a girl who brought me 3 girls to BKK (including her younger sister) to stay at GP with me and did everything we could imagine. But before I give a girl 100 bucks I know them and start with small funds and see how the performance and such is. But for 3,000 baht (100 USD) investment now and then it can pay you back in spades.

HOWEVER. I'm not a two week wonder, I repeat, my stays are 2 to 3 weeks long every visit and I am there often. The bar owners and mamsan's know me. If a girl royally screws me over she knows I know her bosses. And I generally run things past the mamasan / owners in the bars in PI and Thai first to see which girls are full of bolabola / Ko hok. And it is surprising how much the other bar girls talk about their co workers (and about girls from other bars) so it's easy to figure out who to deal with.

We all got our own style, but I'll invest in certain bars and it has served me well. When one girl goes out of circulation (sponsored or her sponsor is in town) I get her new number, she still sees me on the side, and she also recommends replacements or temp girls to fill in for them when they just can't meet up.

I'm not making merit. I look at it as investment in getting proper services on demand.

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LittleBigMan
04-25-10, 15:00
Can you elaborate on this a bit? This sounds interesting.Based on the writing of his many previous post and of course I don't want to speak forTansak KTV, but I believe what he means is that if he invest (flush 100 bucks) which is 3200 baht, in the future when she LT the same girl he gets his investment back with maybe 5 shots, 3 holes, back rub, foot massage, his shirts and socks wash and ironed for him. From what I heard some of them even play Mammasan and find him Nyphos so that he sometimes don't leave his room for days?

Just a Theory of course, LBM

Member #2041
04-25-10, 16:56
You're two men with similar interest crossing paths in the same establishment, in close quarters. I'd say at least a basic greeting or acknowledgment would be in order. I've been in this situation on a few occasions and exchanged the standard verbal greeting or head nod acknowledgement with the other punter while reviewing his selection as I’m sure he was taking a look at mine. Some girls are real playful and sometimes will make casual comments or smile/grin to lighten the mood.
Heck, you might as well acknowledge each other - after all, if one of you had shown up 15 minutes later, for all you know, you'd be dipping into the earlier guy's cum residue.

Daddy07
04-26-10, 00:48
...Say for example I go to Walking Street and I pick up a girl and she pulls a "I only want short time BS to me after we start". Or I nail her two times and she wants to run for the hills and take just taxi money to get the hell away from me (has been known to happen)...
After Tansak KTV is through with them, they don't want money ... only a chance to escape ...


... I'd wake up motorbike to her room and nail her room mates...
I might use a dildo from time to time ... but a motorbike??? No wonder these girls are afraid of you, Tansak. :D

Saint Mint
04-26-10, 03:35
Day 1

Feeling quite tired after a 12 hour flight I decided that a massage might relieve the aching muscles. I found a parlour after about a 5 minute walk from the hotel. Actually, this is not true. Several parlours found me, almost as soon as I left the hotel. If there are health-giving benefits to having a massage then you might think that residents of Pattaya would be among the healthiest on the planet.

Not wishing to fall into the first parlour I encountered I chose to do a little reconnaissance of the neighbourhood to try and determine which would offer me the best service. After seeing about a dozen, I concluded that there was nothing obvious that I could use to differentiate between the offerings. The one I eventually chose (sorry, I can't remember the name or location) only stood out because it seemed to be the cheapest. 199 baht for one hour oil service, while the prevailing rate seems to be 250-300. I didn't choose it because of the price, but because I was attracted by one of the ladies outside. Just my luck, she was not working there, just visiting her friend, who was significantly less visually appealing. I guess I should have walked at this point, but by this stage I was well and truly ready for my massage and decided to stay.

I started with a very welcome shower. I needed this, even though I'd had one just before I left the hotel. Then it was on to the mattress on the floor for the massage. I found it a little disappointing, because it was a reasonable massage but with no attention to the genital area. Just as I was seriously wondering whether the lady was into special services or not, she grabbed me quite firmly and asked what would I like. We agreed 1, 000 baht for a blow job and also to cover the 199 baht for the massage, or so I thought. She did a decent BBBJ followed by CIM and I was a happy man. Then she finished up the time with a bit more massage and I paid her the agreed amount. On the way out the cashier stops me and asks for the 200 for the massage. I point to the masseuse to indicate that she has it, but all she says is "you pay, you pay". This I did, grudgingly, and then left feeling decidedly ripped off. Leaves a rather nasty taste in the mouth, as the masseuse might have said (sorry, couldn't resist it)Yes. I know what you mean about the attractive girl pulling you into the massage parlour only to disappear into thin air and, be replaced by a not so attractive girl. This has happened to me so many times in soi BJ and, many other places. I go there for a decent BBBJ and CIM but, I like to have a little bit of a play with the girl doing it. Can't do that if she is not attractive. Now, when they try the switch I walk out. I try not to make it obvious. I get on the phone. Say, yes, yes, yes and I go now. I tell them this is my wife. I speak to them in Thai but, until you learn Thai, they will understand the English version.

I know a Belgium guy who used to run a bar near your hotel. He always said that he could get the BBBJ and CIM for 500 Baht all in. I never have.

Saint Mint
04-26-10, 05:43
[QUOTE=Kermit2048]Day 1

Feeling quite tired after a 12 hour flight I decided that a massage might relieve the aching muscles. I found a parlour after about a 5 minute walk from the hotel. Actually, this is not true. Several parlours found me, almost as soon as I left the hotel. If there are health-giving benefits to having a massage then you might think that residents of Pattaya would be among the healthiest on the planet.

Not wishing to fall into the first parlour I encountered I chose to do a little reconnaissance of the neighbourhood to try and determine which would offer me the best service. After seeing about a dozen, I concluded that there was nothing obvious that I could use to differentiate between the offerings. The one I eventually chose (sorry, I can't remember the name or location) only stood out because it seemed to be the cheapest. 199 baht for one hour oil service, while the prevailing rate seems to be 250-300. I didn't choose it because of the price, but because I was attracted by one of the ladies outside. Just my luck, she was not working there, just visiting her friend, who was significantly less visually appealing. I guess I should have walked at this point, but by this stage I was well and truly ready for my massage and decided to stay.

I started with a very welcome shower. I needed this, even though I'd had one just before I left the hotel. Then it was on to the mattress on the floor for the massage. I found it a little disappointing, because it was a reasonable massage but with no attention to the genital area. Just as I was seriously wondering whether the lady was into special services or not, she grabbed me quite firmly and asked what would I like. We agreed 1, 000 baht for a blow job and also to cover the 199 baht for the massage, or so I thought. She did a decent BBBJ followed by CIM and I was a happy man. Then she finished up the time with a bit more massage and I paid her the agreed amount. On the way out the cashier stops me and asks for the 200 for the massage. I point to the masseuse to indicate that she has it, but all she says is "you pay, you pay". This I did, grudgingly, and then left feeling decidedly ripped off. Leaves a rather nasty taste in the mouth, as the masseuse might have said (sorry, couldn't resist it),

Yes. I know what you mean about the attractive girl pulling you into the massage parlour only to disappear into thin air and, be replaced by a not so attractive girl. This has happened to me so many times in soi BJ and, many other places. I go there for a decent BBBJ and CIM but, I like to have a little bit of a play with the girl doing it. Can't do that if she is not attractive. Now, when they try the switch I walk out. I try not to make it obvious. I get on the phone. Say, yes, yes, yes and I go now. I tell them this is my wife. I speak to them in Thai but, until you learn Thai, they will understand the English version.

I know a Belgium guy who used to run a bar near your hotel. He always said that he could get the BBBJ and CIM for 500 Baht all in. I never have.Everybody - Please note the Saint Mint report starts from Yes. I know. The 4th paragraph. The first section of the report is from Kermit 2048. I must have messed up again!! Sorry. A mistake. I didn't mean it to look this way.

WeaverWorld
04-26-10, 07:21
Arrived in Pattaya last night for the simple reason that my company deemed Bangkok to be unsafe.

Came in quite late so decided to just grab something to eat at the beer bars around Soi 8 and then see what Lolita had to offer. Swung by Lolita, perhaps around midnight, but the girls were not in uniform and something just felt off on the whole thing so passed on that and ventured down to visit and old friend on Soi postoffice.
Unfortunately her Auntie Flo was visiting so had to settle for something more "oral" than anticipated, no sweat though, she is a hard worker and proud of what she does.

On a side note, since I just happened to end up here I am all alone and would be fun to meet other mongers for a night of debauchery, anyone up for a beer or two send me a PM to set up.

Bonzo1
04-26-10, 15:46
In addition, a comment -- we all have our own way of enjoying the fantasy. Ultimately that's what it all comes down to, I suppose. I personally have tried being cheap (I'm just not that good at it, and tend to get horrible experiences), been mostly slightly generous, and at times been insanely generous. The middle one has worked out best for me, but it would be presumptuous at best to extrapolate that and conclude that everyone should follow that path. Different strokes for different folks.

One thing, which is very controversial here, is that I actually enjoy when I see people flashing big money. I recall when I was young and poor watching with envy when others did it (thousands or tens of thousands of USD), and more selfishly I thought they rev'd up the scene for me - and I exploited the shit out of that! I was in America at the time and the pussy wasn't cheap to begin with. Why people complain about BSD's ruining the market here is totally beyond me, since we with money are actually helping those with more limited funds create a vibrant and plentiful market. And hey, I'm not gonna spend USD 10,000 on a pussy in Pattaya (or even probably 1000)...but if I did it only would create the illusion among the other girls that that is possible, which helps everyone, even those with tighter budgets.

So go for it man -- flash money! It's not only your prerogative and your right, and in our experience provides options we wouldn't have otherwise (therefore really in our own interest), it actually helps the entire scene!

Cheers,

-B-




Not that hard of a concept really but one that goes against what most mongers do and one I'll get flamed for but we all have our own styles.

First I don't give money to girls I just meet or just know so it's not like I'm throwing money to every tramp that walks by. Second its not every day I'm donating 100 USD. But I travel to PI, BKK and recently Chonburi often so I get known at certain places and get known by a decent amount of girls.

If a girl is in a pinch and need some cash I don't mind fronting 1. 3 K baht (or a couple thousand peso) to them. Usually in return they will come over when I call them, come before work or after work to my room saving me bar fines, service me for no pay later to pay off their debt at a reduced rate (2 for 1), bring over or introduce a new girl to me (fresh meat on the market), do a three some or offer up anal, video, pictures, etc. To me when they don't do with most others. But they are girls I've been with before and from places that know me well.

Say for example I go to Walking Street and I pick up a girl and she pulls a "I only want short time BS to me after we start". Or I nail her two times and she wants to run for the hills and take just taxi money to get the hell away from me (has been known to happen), so I got some names and numbers of girls to come over at 3 am who know what I like and what to do and will show up without any fuss or muss. Or say I want to tap something at 9 or 10 am (pretty hard to find quality at that hour in Pattay atleast for me) so I can just send some text messages and get one to come over easily.

I also do not mind buying up some vendor food for ladies waiting their turn for a handsum man to pick them even if I'm not going to nail them that day. I also usually will buy a Black Label or some bottle for the girls at the bars I normally go to for the girls to drink up the day or two before I leave (1,000 baht for a bottle per each bar, big deal). I like having a big rolodex of girls to call on in various parts of the world for the "worst case scenerio's" etc. This has served me well over the years. Plus the word on what I like, how I like it usually spreads very fast around the bars I frequent.

So for me to front up some cash it's not a big deal and the ROI (return on investments) usually come back double what I put out. True and of course I've had some investments that did not pan out but I'm equal or above in most things. I do better at this investment then the stock market.

Recent examples. A girl gets a new apartment (7,000 baht a month), is studying english (4 K a month), and is taking care of family in Isaan (15 K a month). She can't make rent she says. She has no sponsor. She asks for some cash to help that month due to fewer customers. I front some cash, 4,000 baht. She says she will open up her apartment to me to stay there (soi AR). Can bring girls with me and / or she will bring girls to join us. Normally or lately I've stayed at a serviced apartment where a 1 bedroom apartment is 800 baht a night on Soi AR. So now at worst case, I get a fall back apartment to take girls to, and or I get her and a friend of hers and other favors, or just stay with her as she and her friends know I'm a major whatre.

How do I know this will come true? Because when she lived on Naklur (spelling?) Soi 27 I had her old room key and nailed her room mates for free (Feb 2010). She would stay in my apartment, I'd wake up motorbike to her room and nail her room mates. I paid their rent that month, 4 K, and I got free access to their room and between the legs of the room mates (yes even a few times while they were talking on the phone to their sponsors.) for two plus weeks (18 days).

Another example. Girl needs to sell her home, she already owes me money, she asked for a few more baht. I did, and she did sell her home and she put the money in my K bank account. This is a girl who brought me 3 girls to BKK (including her younger sister) to stay at GP with me and did everything we could imagine. But before I give a girl 100 bucks I know them and start with small funds and see how the performance and such is. But for 3,000 baht (100 USD) investment now and then it can pay you back in spades.

HOWEVER. I'm not a two week wonder, I repeat, my stays are 2 to 3 weeks long every visit and I am there often. The bar owners and mamsan's know me. If a girl royally screws me over she knows I know her bosses. And I generally run things past the mamasan / owners in the bars in PI and Thai first to see which girls are full of bolabola / Ko hok. And it is surprising how much the other bar girls talk about their co workers (and about girls from other bars) so it's easy to figure out who to deal with.

We all got our own style, but I'll invest in certain bars and it has served me well. When one girl goes out of circulation (sponsored or her sponsor is in town) I get her new number, she still sees me on the side, and she also recommends replacements or temp girls to fill in for them when they just can't meet up.

I'm not making merit. I look at it as investment in getting proper services on demand.

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Bonzo1
04-26-10, 16:13
Depending on how many guys you have got you could take some or all of the rooms on the 5th floor of the Penthouse hotel . Most of the Party rooms have two double beds sex swings double jazuzzis etc etc I think they will alos let you have a private party in the swimming pool. I know 2 guys did their 50th birthday there with 15 girls.

Thanks, but I won't be staying there again. Very cool place, but horrible, horrible service and extreme attitude problems. Who wants to pay to be patronized and insulted by petulant morons? Or sleep with termites and other bugs? Vault is much better as the owner is a very good guy, and the stripper poles are great fun and the girls love them.

But for this trip, I'm gonna be in a villa with a pool. I'm imagining lots of girls in bikinis around said pool. Maybe the imagination is even better than the reality!

Bun Biter
04-26-10, 17:57
Hi guys,

I'll be in Pattaya for a few days in July and am wondering wether there is massage place similar to Akane massage in Bangkok?

Thanks in advance. BB

Evianist
04-26-10, 18:00
And hey, I'm not gonna spend USD 10,000 on a pussy in Pattaya (or even probably 1000)...but if I did it only would create the illusion among the other girls that that is possible, which helps everyone, even those with tighter budgets.

So go for it man -- flash money! It's not only your prerogative and your right, and in our experience provides options we wouldn't have otherwise (therefore really in our own interest), it actually helps the entire scene!


What?

You think if a guy pays $1000 for a girl, it makes things better for guys with tight budgets?

I can't even understand how your mind came to that conclusion.

It only revs up the scene located within 10cms of the guy throwing money around. Everywhere else in the bar it creates a vacuum.

Member #3428
04-26-10, 21:59
After Tansak KTV is through with them, they don't want money ... only a chance to escape ... :DFor some girls this is true unfortunately.

Saint Mint
04-27-10, 08:17
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P) Angelwitch
Pros: they have the best shows, one part involving a boa constrictor
Cons: expensive
B) Tony's
Pros: place looks nice
Cons: clientele always seems shady to me so I avoid Tony's
C) Lucifer's
Pros: huge; front 1/3 has a live band and rear 2/3 has a large dance club
Cons: dark so tough to see what the girls look like
Angelwitch,

This is free to get in. Sure, the drinks are more expensive than the bars. You pay extra to watch the great shows.

Tony's. Normally a great selection of girls. You get girls that have finished their day or night job. That could be Pattaya office workers or Pattaya bar workers. You get freelancers and, during Thai holidays and weekends there is the added bonus of Bangkok office girls. Again, free to get in with live shows. Tony is normally on stage doing his thing. Drinks are expensive. I think last time a small Heineken cost me 250 Baht.

Lucifers. The club at the back is normally packed with girls. Again, the same scenario as Tony's with a cross selection of girls. The last time I was there I sat with 4 office workers from Bangkok. They all worked for Isuzu. To me they all looked stunning. It's not that dark. The thing with the office workers, in Pattaya for a long weekend, is that they really like to be shagged. They might only visit Pattaya twice a year and are really up for it. Obviously you have to buy drinks. These drinks will cost more than a normal bar fine but, in most cases, you won't have to pay them.

Con: They might try to get you to put a ring on their finger.

Bonzo1
04-27-10, 09:39
What?

You think if a guy pays $1000 for a girl, it makes things better for guys with tight budgets?

I can't even understand how your mind came to that conclusion.

It only revs up the scene located within 10cms of the guy throwing money around. Everywhere else in the bar it creates a vacuum.

...here as this is a very sensitive topic on this forum. The way this works, both in theory and in practice as it is does every single day (Q.E.D.), is that it the market develops to accommodate varying price points. That development brings with it more of everything -- more high budget and more low budget, more sense of opportunity which attracts more girls, etc.

Like real estate, consumer products, and pretty much everything else that is sold in the world, the "luxury" segment plays a very large role in the development of the cheaper segments. Where there is no premium segment, the cheap goods are almost always available only for the truly poor, of very shoddy quality, and not available to or even really known by most of us.

Peace.

Mangofan
04-27-10, 09:49
Went to Pattaya over the weekend to escape the shennanigans in BKK. Tried out walking street first - went into several go-gos but the girls seem to want 2000 for ST. Tried Peppermint, Airport...a few others. If I'm going to pay 2000 for ST I might as well go to Baccara or Rainbow 4 in BKK where I can get a real stunner for that price. Escaped over to soi 6 instead - 300 bf + 700 st gets you laid. Sorted.

Evianist
04-27-10, 11:22
...here as this is a very sensitive topic on this forum. The way this works, both in theory and in practice as it is does every single day (Q.E.D.), is that it the market develops to accommodate varying price points. That development brings with it more of everything -- more high budget and more low budget, more sense of opportunity which attracts more girls, etc.

Like real estate, consumer products, and pretty much everything else that is sold in the world, the "luxury" segment plays a very large role in the development of the cheaper segments. Where there is no premium segment, the cheap goods are almost always available only for the truly poor, of very shoddy quality, and not available to or even really known by most of us.

Your theory doesn't work because you're citing a man who goes into a gogo where the offer price for a girl is say 2000 baht/ST and he gives her 32,000/ST simply because he wants to flash it.

That's the equivalent of shopping for $200,000 homes, finding one you like and then bidding $3.2m just because you feel like throwing some money around. Or paying $500 for a $30 toaster.

Would anyone, even extremely wealthy people, do that? Of course not. It's nonsensical and would benefit no one.

It would be different to go into an extremely high class gogo bar featuring nothing but stunners who provide very high levels of service and paying the offer price of 32,000 baht. That would be the equivalent of the high-end markets for real estate or consumer products.

LittleBigMan
04-27-10, 11:54
Went to Pattaya over the weekend to escape the shennanigans in BKK. Tried out walking street first - went into several go-gos but the girls seem to want 2000 for ST. Tried Peppermint, Airport...a few others. If I'm going to pay 2000 for ST I might as well go to Baccara or Rainbow 4 in BKK where I can get a real stunner for that price. Escaped over to soi 6 instead - 300 bf + 700 st gets you laid. Sorted.That is very true Mangofan but in your own words "to escape the shennanigans in BKK, so not too many choices that is close to BKK, now you did the right thing and Escape to Soi 6.

LBM

Finrod
04-27-10, 16:13
Went to Pattaya over the weekend to escape the shennanigans in BKK. Tried out walking street first - went into several go-gos but the girls seem to want 2000 for ST. Tried Peppermint, Airport...a few others. If I'm going to pay 2000 for ST I might as well go to Baccara or Rainbow 4 in BKK where I can get a real stunner for that price. Escaped over to soi 6 instead - 300 bf + 700 st gets you laid. Sorted.
Another instance of business is slow so they raise their prices? I was on Walking St in January and got a gogo girl for 2000 for LT in addition to the barfine. Decent service, too.

Betong
04-27-10, 16:25
. . . the market develops to accommodate varying price points. That development brings with it more of everything.Finally, someone here who understands economics. I've given up trying to explain how giving a generous tip does not in fact 'ruin the market for all of us', though I am still waiting to hear if getting freebie helps the market for all of us, and if not, then why not.

Opebo
04-27-10, 18:56
...Who wants to pay to be patronized and insulted by petulant morons?

I had to comment on this sentence - isn't that what most chaps are doing in Pattaya, after all? And certainly those who overpay or visit the higher-end venues.

Which brings me to the recent topic of payment and 'the market' - While I do consider over-payers to be foolish characters I don't think they're precisely to blame for the rampant price increase in Thailand.

The reason the higher quality girls are more or less unaffordable for most of us nowadays is simply that there is a terrible inadequacy of supply. Population growth is nil in Thailand, and there are lots of other employment opportunities. Even for the minority of girls who prefer the easy money of prostitution to more strenuous toils, there are so many well-off Thai men now that they can have the easy money without ever having to put up with the hated farang. Again, here I am only talking about the very attractive girls - as we all know Thais would never have relations with about 90% of the girls in Pattaya, much less pay for it.

In any case, the point is prices have gone up because there simply isn't much of the stuff available, not because a few insecure nincompoops try to impress prostitutes by overpaying.

DG69
04-27-10, 22:29
In any case, the point is prices have gone up because there simply isn't much of the stuff available, not because a few insecure nincompoops try to impress prostitutes by overpaying.

Most likely true, but that isn't all. First of all there are less supply, since the poverty is lower and the population increase is low now in Thailand. There are some foreign girls at least in Bangkok (middle eastern and Russian cater mostly the Indian and Arab clientel), than African girls. Also, from other Asian countries, for example reasently I talked with two Philippine girls whose work now in Bankok. But, also true many more Thai girls work abroad than foreign girls work in Thailand.
Thecost of living in Bangkok and Pattaya is high, so the prices for p4p do also rise. The Thai currency is strong against European and US currency as in many Asian countries now. And last but not least Punter pay serious cash for pretty girls, so why should they go for small money?
I can have cheaper P4P in my Home Town Frankfurt, even with prettier girls. I still spend my hollyday in Thailand, but it was not like before a easy decision. I had plans just to stay a few days in Thailand and than head to Jakarta. But, I got a little lazy, is still funny in the clubs and I know already some pretty freelancer who provide decent service for normal prices. So, I have doubt, that I will buy a ticket to Jakarta. It's most likely alot of hazzle to find the right hotel and to get familar with the situation there.
But, that means also I have to extent my Visa, since my Hollyday is longer than 30 days.
Or can a someone give good advice about the best airline to Jakarta, decent, gf and not too expensive Hotel in the center of the action in Jakarta?

Terry Terrier
04-28-10, 01:38
Angelwitch,

This is free to get in. Sure, the drinks are more expensive than the bars. You pay extra to watch the great shows.

Tony's. Normally a great selection of girls. You get girls that have finished their day or night job. That could be Pattaya office workers or Pattaya bar workers. You get freelancers and, during Thai holidays and weekends there is the added bonus of Bangkok office girls. Again, free to get in with live shows. Tony is normally on stage doing his thing. Drinks are expensive. I think last time a small Heineken cost me 250 Baht.

Lucifers. The club at the back is normally packed with girls. Again, the same scenario as Tony's with a cross selection of girls. The last time I was there I sat with 4 office workers from Bangkok. They all worked for Isuzu. To me they all looked stunning. It's not that dark. The thing with the office workers, in Pattaya for a long weekend, is that they really like to be shagged. They might only visit Pattaya twice a year and are really up for it. Obviously you have to buy drinks. These drinks will cost more than a normal bar fine but, in most cases, you won't have to pay them.

Con: They might try to get you to put a ring on their finger.
Con also: At the bar prices in Tony and Lucifer, the girl better be worth it if you don't pick her up sharpish.

Member #3428
04-28-10, 02:05
Even for the minority of girls who prefer the easy money of prostitution to more strenuous toils, there are so many well-off Thai men now that they can have the easy money without ever having to put up with the hated farang. Again, here I am only talking about the very attractive girls - as we all know Thais would never have relations with about 90% of the girls in Pattaya, much less pay for it. For clarification purposes only and not slamming you Opebo you just opened the door here, what Thai's and Asians find attractive is generally NOT what Farangs find attractive. General Statement not true all the time of course but what a Japanese Customer likes is not always what an American likes. That's not even considering what Thais find attractive. I see White ladies (russians, american whatever) who I think are butt ugly dog turds that are being paraded around by thai's who find them a status symbol or hot or whatever for whatever reason.

People complain about Farangs walking their Isaan rent a wives around but I find it just as disgusting to see the Thai's / Asian's parading around and obese and or butt ugly piece of white trash. Or thai's walking around with Hi So thai girls so pasty and noses so far up in the air. Just is disgusting to me.

I know many many many girls who work Farang Bars who started working at Thai GO GO's in other parts of the country who got NO customers from the thai's. But they head to Nana / Cowboy / Pattaya and they are in demand or paid a higher rate by foreigners.

A wing man of mine and I have exact opposite tastes in ladies and what we look for. We rarely ever pick or choose or like the same girl. What he enjoys and finds attractive I would not take to bed. What I enjoy and find attractive he would rather chew off his arm then take to bed. He's Asian but raised in American I'm a mutt living more towards Asia.

Different strokes for different folks in all things. The point is to enjoy your mongering within the level and means you can monger. There is not any one style or rule or form that we all must follow.

Some people think my girls are strong bodied dark skinned isaan farm girls, and well, to put up with me they have to be strong and energetic not white pasty delicate want to be princesses with attitudes. And that's OK, as long as we all enjoy. I don't care how others get their girls or what they do with them, it's none of my business and I'm not like some members who think they are the mongering police who rule lord over what should or should not be done (not you Opebo).

I was discussing one of the banned topic on these threads of why so many guys want to flock and take the "not 100% true or real females" in Pattaya, and my older brother 1Ball said, leave it alone not your business. And he's right, not my place to judge how others enjoy their time as long as we enjoy what we have and do without bothering others.

Normad2020
04-28-10, 05:09
DG68,

(1) AirAsia from Bangkok to Jakarta.
(2) In Jakarta stay at Sparks Hotel (interesting night activities at the hotel) which will put you squarely in the action areas near Kota with Lokasari Plaza located diagonally opposite the hotel. If you are bored there, venture (by taxi which is cheap) to ManggaDua area or if you like the sleazy setting head to Jalan Pelatehan (spelling?) where clubs like Top Gun, etc are located.

Cheers
normad2020




Most likely true, but that isn't all. First of all there are less supply, since the poverty is lower and the population increase is low now in Thailand. There are some foreign girls at least in Bangkok (middle eastern and Russian cater mostly the Indian and Arab clientel), than African girls. Also, from other Asian countries, for example reasently I talked with two Philippine girls whose work now in Bankok. But, also true many more Thai girls work abroad than foreign girls work in Thailand.
Thecost of living in Bangkok and Pattaya is high, so the prices for p4p do also rise. The Thai currency is strong against European and US currency as in many Asian countries now. And last but not least Punter pay serious cash for pretty girls, so why should they go for small money?
I can have cheaper P4P in my Home Town Frankfurt, even with prettier girls. I still spend my hollyday in Thailand, but it was not like before a easy decision. I had plans just to stay a few days in Thailand and than head to Jakarta. But, I got a little lazy, is still funny in the clubs and I know already some pretty freelancer who provide decent service for normal prices. So, I have doubt, that I will buy a ticket to Jakarta. It's most likely alot of hazzle to find the right hotel and to get familar with the situation there.
But, that means also I have to extent my Visa, since my Hollyday is longer than 30 days.
Or can a someone give good advice about the best airline to Jakarta, decent, gf and not too expensive Hotel in the center of the action in Jakarta?

Mr Enternational
04-28-10, 05:31
Finally, someone here who understands economics. I've given up trying to explain how giving a generous tip does not in fact 'ruin the market for all of us', though I am still waiting to hear if getting freebie helps the market for all of us, and if not, then why not.IMHO pussy is a commodity such as salt, gold, rice. I mean with 6.8 billion units on this planet you gotta figure that 3.4 billion came with a pussy as standard equipment. 1 baht of gold = 1 baht of gold = 1 baht of gold. Why would I pay 3000 baht for 1 baht of gold on Soi 8 when I could pay 1000 baht on Soi 6? When there is a pussy glut such as there is in Thailand at any given time, I'm not going to pay as if I was in the U.A.E. where pussy is scarce.

On the surface I might b^tch and try to get the point across that people shouldn't pay more than necessary. However underneath I'm not personally worried about it because at the end of the day at 38 years old I'm still young enough and have plenty of game to back me up. I just like to look out for the next monger.