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Goyave
09-25-09, 16:29
Any better directions to Soi Sow Fai Deng, I walked around the TOT area and couldn't easlily pick out the street or any brothel close-by.
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Soi Sow Fai Deng is not near TOT, but opposite CAT International Phone Office, on Wattana Nuwong Road (not far away from the crossroad with Udon Dutsadi Road).

Mosquito2002
09-25-09, 16:54
Goyave, Thanks.

Just looked at a map, CAT office is on the left side of the road (Wattana, heading away from Central Mall). Is Soi Sow Fai Deng on the rightside, same side of the road as the TOT office??

Goyave
09-25-09, 18:07
Goyave, Thanks.

Just looked at a map, CAT office is on the left side of the road (Wattana, heading away from Central Mall). Is Soi Sow Fai Deng on the rightside, same side of the road as the TOT office??

I just made the attached map for you. Hope this helps...

Opebo
09-28-09, 10:06
I made a flying visit to Korat city recently, unfortunately encumbered with a sugar mama. I did manage to sneak away for one visit to the soapy atop the hotel near the new Bus Station - I think it is called 'Pikasaw' or something like that, and I'm pretty sure it used to be called 'Pegasus.

The girls there at 8:00 PM numbered around 25, and most were good looking, though few real standouts. I took a tallish slimmish one and received adequate service, including a BBBJ. Her price was 1,700, but there were others in the group that were 1,400 - however the dividing line was not clear.

I also checked out the main location of Ginza, where I found fewer girls and lower quality, but in fairness it was at about five PM. They had about six fishbowl girls at 1,200 and about three better looking girls in a sort of sideline area for 1,800. Nothing really appealed to me, and I left. However the old papasan informed me that Ginza had 8 locations around Korat, and that most were cheaper and smaller than this main location.

Alas due to my 'freebie' trip I could not escape at the right times to check out the Park or any other freelancer area. Last time I visited there was several years ago, and the quality was astoundingly bad, so I'd like to see if it has improved any. Unlikely I know, but hope springs eternal.

Daddy07
09-28-09, 11:09
I made a flying visit to Korat city recently, unfortunately encumbered with a sugar mama... Alas due to my 'freebie' trip I could not escape...
Congratulations on finding a sugar mamma to help pay the bills, Opebo.

How does that work -- do you have to fuck her so many times during the trip, or what? :D

Bumholes1
09-28-09, 12:58
I made a flying visit to Korat city recently,
Alas due to my 'freebie' trip I could not escape at the right times to check out the Park or any other freelancer area.

Are there "other" freelancer areas in Korat? Please advise

Opebo
09-28-09, 17:52
Are there "other" freelancer areas in Korat? Please advise

I read on here that there are freelancers around the Choa Phraya Hotel. I've never seen it so I don't know, but I wanted to check it out.. next time I guess.

Rocksoff
09-29-09, 10:37
I made a flying visit to Korat city recently,

Just an aside -- the nicest 2 girls I had in Soi 6 last weekend were from Korat :-)

Opebo
09-30-09, 20:24
I made another visit to Khon Kaen recently, where I fared poorly at the hands of the local Thais. First I visited Ceasar Massage where everyone was very nice and honest, but I spent 1,700 baht on a 'Playboy' level girl, who unfortunately couldn't really do anything - no bbbj, and nothing else bb. I tried to utilize the dreaded condom, but it was absolutely impossible. Even the handjob seemed very lackluster.

Next I went round to the Cleo kareoke at the Pullman Hotel, which was bustling with high-end custom as usual. Alas no girl paid any attention to me, until mamasan inquired, and I mentioned a girls name out of my faulty memory. As it turned out it was the girl who'd ripped me off for 2,000 baht a few weeks before (reported below, subsequently made right by management). She just came up and apologized, so it seemed that she had just erred, and all was well again between her and the management. She slipped away quickly, hunting the much bigger game roaming the place. After a while I left, the ennui building to an insalubrious level.

Finally I kerb-crawled round the ('non-aircon') bus station, where there were less girls than usual due to the interminable 'sprinkles' we've been having. Alas my favorite was not there and so I didn't take, but circled quite a lot till I saw one streetwalker in an area a bit further away from the station and all on her own. I stopped and she agreed to bb and 'smoke' for 500. Off to the short time hotel where she totally failed to perform in any way, except at the game of asking for more money (namely 100 more). As an interesting aside, let me inform you gentlemen that she appeared to be pregnant and had enormous, highly swollen breasts. Condomless sex was acheived though only briefly as she cried out 'jep jep' constantly, as is normally the Thai girl's way, and struggled to grab the base of my penis to prevent anything more than a few inches intrusion upon her delicate nethers. No release of any sort was achieved.

After I rid myself of this typical horror, I toured round the bus station one more time. I stopped to peruse one group and a young pimp lad stuck his head in the partially opened passenger window, while his ware stuck hers in next to me. He proceeded to tout her, but I was unaware that my mobile phone lay in the passenger seat - yes, brothers, I was the victim, through my own foolishness, of a phone-napping. As I drove off I realized the loss, and so I stopped and called out to the girls (the boy had disappeared) that I would pay 1,000 baht to get it back. After all the phone was old and worthless - I just wanted the numbers. No dice - I guess the delinquent is a wary type, preferring the bird in the hand over any in the bush.

So, beware, mongers. As always you have only a tiny percentage chance of finding anything worth having, and along the way you will be constantly under the attack of thieves and con-artists.

Opebo
10-11-09, 08:32
Stopped by Ceasar's massage in KK recently where the tout pushed me to try one particular girl. She came and sat with me but I had a funny feeling she wasn't quite right. I think she may have been a ladyboy! Usually it is very easy for me to tell, and obviously in a Thai joint like that they wouldn't normally employ them, but something said katoey to me - as much the scent or pheromones as the look. Anyway I left feeling a little miffed that they'd pushed this one on me.

I looked in at Violin Kareoke and Cleo's, as a friend had described them as equivalents. Violin, located within walking distance of the Pullman/Kosa area, also offers quite high-end Thai-taste (pale) girls in fancy frocks for 2,000. I forgot to ask the barfine, but I guess its probably similar to the Cleo's 600. I thought the quality seemed just a trifle higher at Cleo's, but both were very good. Violin was less crowded the night I was there. Girls seemed a little reserved but I was assured by the one I talked to that most had no problem going with a foreigner.

Finally I had a nice time with a girl from the station stroll.

Jutju
10-12-09, 03:37
Opebo, have you ever had any luck at the KK bus station during the day time?

I tried last week with out any luck.

Opebo
10-13-09, 20:34
Opebo, have you ever had any luck at the KK bus station during the day time?

I tried last week with out any luck.

No, there is never anything there before eight or nine PM at the earliest, and usually it is best to go after ten.

Opebo
10-16-09, 17:51
One afternoon I tried Lilly's soapy massage in the Charoensi Princess Hotel in downtown Khon Kaen. Its just round the corner from Kosa or Pullman. This soapy is strange in that it has a fishbowl filled with girls who are ostensibly here for just Thai or oil massage (priced at 300 and 500 for two hours respectively). There must be15- 20 girls in this fishbowl at times, dressed in somewhat professional looking white jackets. And the just to the left are 3-7 girls for the explicitly sexual massage, dressed sexily and priced at 1,200 nowadays. On both sides attractiveness was at best just tolerable, with nearly all in their 30s.

A friend and I tried two of the more tolerable looking women from the massage section, each booking the 500 baht oil massage. I was taken to the exact same type of room that is used for the soapy session - tub and all. Immediately she suggested a soapy-session, tub+massage+sex. But, she offered this at the price of 1,500 baht! I said no, just massage, but she kept bargaining and touching, trying to get me interested. I told her it made no sense as the regular sex girls were only 1,200. She said 'but I give you massage, that's 500'. I said well ok I'll give you the 500 plus 500 tip for just the tub and sex, and forget the crappy massage.

Finally she agreed to this, and turned out to be very skillful and titillating, even appearing quite horny. When the time came for the sex bareback was available but funnily enough she demanded 500 extra, bringing the cost, in the end, right to where she had wanted it. So, 1,500 would roughly be the cost for any decent looking girl at the better soapies, but here I had only an OK looking 30 year old. On the other hand, I got apparently impassioned bareback sex (she may have orgasmed twice whilst riding me rather brutally cowgirl). Creampie was received without complaint.

I disliked the bargaining and the high cost, but the service was admittedly very good - as it often is with the less attractive and older. My friend had a nice time with handjob for 500 tip, without any bargaining.

HotShaneHot
10-18-09, 07:09
The federal police are in town and they close them all down..

They will all re open soon, but you can still get some fun and lady's at Sunset Strip.

They are open all day.

If you go, see Peter at Beer Belly Billy's.

It is own by westen man.

Next door is Australian bar, own by Australian man, and there are lady's you can take out.

I see Ann.

She was 18y, but so so shi, but still fun.

HotShaneHot
10-19-09, 14:23
There is about 12 bar's in Udon day & night.

Not many people there.

The asking price is 300 barfine then 1'000 s/t 2'000 L/t.

HotShaneHot
10-20-09, 01:05
The one I did see from the aus bar was 500 s/t 1'000 L/t

Off the street should be way cheper I think.

HotShaneHot
10-21-09, 15:30
If you are going to nong khai or udon thani.

And you like to rent out moto bike or car. I would get international driving permit befor.

As the police are all over the place now doing Licence chek.

And plese rember what RCA Night say police are not owe friend's.

He is so right I do know first hand I will tell more about that soon in BKK report.

Leveller
10-21-09, 18:39
A sketchy report of my recent ramblings in Isan cities Khon Kaen, Udon, Ubon, Nong Khai, Mukdahan, Sisaket, Roiet, Nakon Phanom.

Khon Kaen:

Many establishments allegedly closed: Zolid, 172, HiTech; latter now has Violin Karaoke and Full Moon music club. The former had oldish girls, the latter was nearly void of customers when I visited (I believe they opened recently).

I enjoyed the RAD club (turn left walking from the street that has Eric's bar and Pullman hotel, and continue walking a few hundred meters; at night you can't miss it with it's brightly lit red 'RAD' sign) with (some nice) coyotees dancing; one girl told me she could meet me after closing time (2am); a waiter in the club told me he could arrange a girl earlier, from outside, but in order to do so I had to barfine him so I could go with him and he could show me where. I politely declined.

Checked out Harem (in Khon Kaen hotel) late at night, and it was standing room only; the place was heaving, but not a lot of cuties to be seen.

One night met a girl in a beerbar near Eric's bar (on the side-soi next to Pullman) and after we got tired of shooting pool and as it was raining and as she had a nice and shiny pickup, she wanted to take me to a Thai country club, DuengTaweng or something like that; a wooden shack, quite large, again standing room only, Thai band playing, and the place filled with young people having fun, eating, sipping their whiskey-mixers, dancing (on the tables even). Many were quite approachable to exchange a few words of Angrit with the big farang that just walked in. A fun place.

Had a good massage and FS by a lovely girl in Kosa massage; 2000 bht. Papa can deliver in the room, but only the massage girls, not girls from outside.

Checked out Ceasars massage, which seems to have moved (formerly in or near the Pullman, now a samlor-ride away, in a small street, but I lost directions); a deprecit place with friendly pappas, and one cute girl, whose performance was otherwise perfunctory (1200 bht).

Udon:

Merely spend my time in the Day & Night beerbar-complex; lovely, friendly girls to be found there, the brasher ones often had worked before in BKK or PTTYA.

Checked out Wolverine gogo bar which was dark and dull and not a cutie to be seen. Mr. Tong, a nice bright place, on the corner of the main road perpendicular to the road that has Day and Night and a small circle road having more small beerbars. While it may have had some FLs (or just normal customers for that matter), most of the girls visiting where from the beerbars.

I had no chance to visit the massage parlors here (all in/near hotels near the lake), but was told that Valentine, near the Udon hotel, is best.

Made an afternoon visit to soi 7; was showed a few young cute girls, picked one and off to a bungalow; a hot (in terms of temperature, only fan in there) and sweaty, but perfunctory session followed; rather more of a curiosity-fuck.

Nong Khai:

I didn't check the ladyhouses recently mentioned, but asked a tuktuk for ladyhouses; off we went across the mainroad passing through NK, near Dom Don resort: a few ladyhouses there, with cute and young girls, 700 bht asking price. Another ladyhouse closer to the old railway station, with older girls, 500 bht asking price.

Thai-Lao hotel has bar Nana and karaoke (if that name isn't indicative of things happening there. I didn't go there this time, but 6 years ago met some locals in the small dancing there, one of which offered me to go with his GF; although he was an amicable lad, he was also quite big for a Thai guy, so I politely declined; otherwise a mix of locals and farangs there, but some goofy goings on in the deprecit hallways; got involuntarily groped in the balls on the toilet).

One day, sitting on my riverside balcony at dusk, enjoying a cold one, I was called upon by a SW, who was standing under my balcony, in full public. As she looked plumb and I was a bit stunned at this public proposal, I declined.

Nakon Phanom:

Stayed in the View Khong hotel, with fantastic views over the Mekong and Laos, and inhouse delivery by the bellboys; the two bellboys each had their supply; the younger one was kind of a playboy and he delivered me a very cute, young girl, 1500 bht, but disappointing performance; the other bellboy brought the customer to some ladyhouses, which had oldish (and cheaper) ladies; thanks, but no thanks.

Went to the Duck Pub, a disco with the typical Thai dance and music show (nice), with some lovely dancers, who would sit with you for 30 minutes for the princely sum of 100 baht. There where also some coyote dansers strutting their stuff.

Closer to the river I visited the William's Bar or Maya Love, a kind of hostess bar with some very cute and young girls. I frolicked on one of the couches a bit with a very cute Luk khrueng girl; when I thought we both were good to go someplace more intimate I informed if she was interested to join me, but instead she wanted to go to the Duck Pub, and didn't go with customers; Maya told me it is up to the girls; some may, some may not, and if they do, only after closing time.

Mukdahan:

Ladyhouses conveniently located in half a circle around/under Mukdahan tower; friendly girls, some young and pretty. I went with one fair-skinned Lao girl, who soon began to ask for extra charges for using the airco etc. I quickly dressed and went to another house. Found another sweet girl, but performance so-so; 1500 bht.

Ubon:

I couldn't get the hang of this place; stayed in Nevada, which was far from everything (especially at night when the songtheaws no longer ran); and when I eventually found a tuktuk, had difficulties to make it clear to him I want to shag some lovely Ubon cutie; but found 'Nico' massage eventually this way, a place which seems to have stayed exactly the same since the Americans had their army base here, and enjoyed their R&R in Ubon; 1700 bht FS, which was a bit much considering the mediocre service.

The Rock Club disco in the Nevada was nice enough, with the typical energetic Thai dance and music show, where performers would do one song and then switch for another.

It seems I missed one street of bars nearby completely; it was mentioned in my guide even, but I failed to find it, and when asking for it on the street, no-one knew of it; later I read on the intarwebs that indeed there is such a street. Anyone?

Sisaket:

Friendly small place. Stayed at the Kessari hotel, where I was offered inhouse delivery by bellboy, 1500 bht. But word got out to the frontdesk and it all became a bit awkward, so I didn't pull. The I-bar disco in the Prompiman hotel hurt my ears, so I went to the Nona disco instead, which had the typical Thai music and dance shows, and a lot of young people having fun. A mama in there was obviously pushing and selling some beautiful girls, but no Angrit spoken.

Roiet:

Stayed at the Mai Thai hotel, a one stop shop convenience for the mongerer: massage, karaoke, coyote-club all in this hotel. Walked into the massage lounge one afternoon, which had some young girls sitting on a bench. Soon had made my choice, but the chosen one gasped terrified. The papa said she was scared of farangs, and their big dicks in particular. Hilarity ensued. Luckily papa found a cutie who had no such fears, and what a pick it was! An adorable lovely girl, young, slim, handful-tits, with such a lovely polite demeanor, not a word of English, but every sentence/question concluded by 'na ka'? Which sounded like 'meow' in my ears. And she knew her stuff: her performance was very good and just nice. Massage and naughty stuff well done and over, we cuddled and she murmled, nay purrred, sweet noises. A gem in the rough.

The coyote club had some pretty coyotes dancing, and otherwise many young people having fun. The coyotes sat with you for a drink but didn't go with customers, but one cutie student girl from KK gave me her number, should I be in KK the next few days; alas, I had been there already. On another night again I sat with some locals practicing their Angrit, and a pretty, but drunk, girl was shoved in my arms. She was very affectionate, no doubt caused by her intake. She wanted to meet me in BKK, she would go there soon. Suddenly however, there was a scream, and she was brutally pulled away by someone said to be her BF. Ouch.

Perpendicular to the road leading away from the canal is a road/area with many Thai entertainment establishments; Pavilion 101 is a very nice music-club. ONO disco was said to be closed.

Closing remarks:

You'd have to like 'the hunt' if mongering in Isan; it has been said before by others, and I often found the hunt fun, if frustrating at times, often not resulting in a 'kill' or the ensuing initimacies where so-so, mostly because of language-difficulties or anxiety towards farangs. It definitely helps to speak more then basic Thai (or even better Lao/Isan), which I do not.

Since the mongering in Isan merely caters to locals, most of the girls for hire are quite pretty, slim, young and relatively fair-skinned; Udon was a noticable exception, as it seemed more geared towards farangs, and the girls, while friendly and not as jaded as BKK or PTTYA girls, are not as pretty as elsewhere in Isan.

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Goyave
10-22-09, 13:45
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Since the mongering in Isan merely caters to locals, most of the girls for hire are quite pretty, slim, young and relatively fair-skinned; Udon was a noticable exception, as it seemed more geared towards farangs, and the girls, while friendly and not as jaded as BKK or PTTYA girls, are not as pretty as elsewhere in Isan.
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Great report, Leveller, but I have to disagree on your last point. It seems that you haven't visited the brothels in Soi Sow Fai Deng during your stay in Udon Thani and many Laotian cuties are available there. Usually they are not great performers but way more beautiful (and younger with fairer skin... and cheaper!) than the bar girls from the Day & Night Beer Bar Complex.

Goyave
10-22-09, 15:06
The federal police are in town and they close them all down..

They will all re open soon, but you can still get some fun and lady's at Sunset Strip.
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I'm just back from Nong Khai after a visa trip in Laos (I will report on my short stay in Vientiane later in the appropriate section of the Laos forum).

I arrived in Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 at 4pm approximately and almost all of the brothels in this soi were closed then. I was a bit surprised and disappointed as I've just seen at least one opened brothel on Meechai road before entering Sri Boon Ruang 2. This brothel on Meechai road does not offer a great choice of girls (usually a couple of rather old - for this part of the country - and not very attractive women).

In two other brothels (that were closed today) on Sri Boon Ruang 2, I know a few younger and decent looking 3-holers and I wanted to fuck one of those this afternoon, alas, it was not possible. But a local guy saw me and spoke with me a bit. "You want lady?" he said. I replied in Thai, saying that I know several girls in this area but alas, they are not available at the moment apparently. He then called a girl (he actually screamed her name several times really loud!) who went down from a small building nearby (which once had a karaoke joint on the ground floor).

Far from being a stunner, but the girl has a great smile, an OK face and her body looks good enough. I make the deal with my new noisy friend (the pimp) at 300 baht for one shot on premises with Peng (the smiling girl). Great find! She’s very passionate (giving lots of deep French kisses) and for once, I haven’t requested a blow job as she started to rape me after just a couple of minutes of caresses and kisses and I already had a major hard-on. Soon, I was guessing that anal could be on the menu, and a few minutes later, I was proven right!

At the end of our session, I gave her a 200-baht tip and she was quite happy with that. I spoke a bit with her too and was very surprised when she told me that she’s 30-year old. I would have thought that she was at least 5 years younger. I don’t know if she has given birth yet (probably at this age), but it doesn’t show on her body.

I haven’t checked the other brothels and pick up joints in Nong Khai today but several places are probably still operating now (but for some of them, usually much later in the evening).

Opebo
10-22-09, 17:57
Impressive Goyave - I visit the similar places and get terrible service and often not even a BJ and you manage anal. I've never gotten anal with a sex-worker that wasn't already very experienced with farang, very old, or both. And the girls almost always seem unhappy to be stuck with a farang.

But as others have said, the girls available in Isaan are generally younger, better looking, and whiter than those in Pattaya. However service is usually much worse. Price can range from a bit less to a lot more than back in the Center.

Goyave
10-23-09, 04:56
Impressive Goyave - I visit the similar places and get terrible service and often not even a BJ and you manage anal. I've never gotten anal with a sex-worker that wasn't already very experienced with farang, very old, or both. And the girls almost always seem unhappy to be stuck with a farang...

I am not always as successful alas, Opebo, especially when I've just met a new girl in I-San. But as I'm lucky enough to live in this area, I am usually able to convince even young and inexperienced chicks after a few regular visits with some incentives, patience and a lot of lube!

One of my local "students" can be seen in the photo gallery: 820577. This Laotian cutie did not know much apart from the missionary position on our first encounter. A few visits later, she knew a lot more including how to perform a very decent blow job and she can take it up her tight ass like a pro!

But she's not the only one. I've previously posted pictures of other young and cute 3-holers available in various places in Thailand. I'm currently training a new one, but didn't manage yet to sodomize her "fully" (I've just been allowed to introduce only a third of my dick in her anus for a few minutes so far).

I don't force them and usually stop when they say “djep” (it hurts)... at least, on my first attempts. Then, they allow me to penetrate them more and more via their "back door" on further visits.

I have some very good surprises sometimes even on my first encounters with "anal virgins". I even met on a few occasions girls who apparently enjoy taking it up their ass more than vaginal sex (even on their first attempt!). Quite amazing when that happens!

Strangely enough, I have not been very successful in Pattaya on my last visit (end of April this year) and did not find many young 3-holers among the freelancers on Beach Road or Walking Street (my favorite hunting places in this area). I visit Pattaya regularly since 1999 and I was quite disappointed this year (I've been way more successful in the past, finding something like 1 out of 3 allowing anal then among the prettiest freelancers).

But it's getting easier every year (in my humble opinion) with the girls available in I-San. Maybe it's just me and maybe am I getting more experienced in how to get what I want from the local girls in my area... and in the same time, maybe am I losing it with the girls working in Pattaya (which is rather strange considering that most of them come from I-San)? Anyway, as I spend more time up country than elsewhere, this evolution does not bother me at all!

Opebo
10-23-09, 11:21
Amazing.. I find the service has been getting much worse in Isaan over the years, especially in Udon Thani. Its like the pimps there used to train or educate the girls, but now seem to do nothing. Its like pulling teeth to even get the least bit of BJ, and BB sex is much rarer.

On the Beach in Pattaya I find maybe 10% of the older uglier ones can do anal well, and I've only ever found about 1 or 2 young cute ones who could do it in nearly a decade. You're a luckier man than I.

Opebo
10-30-09, 22:41
The other day I took a look at Kosa Soapy in Khon Kaen - the selection wasn't bad and I took an attractive tall 24 year old for 2,000. Tall and fairly slim, though not as slim as I normally prefer. She gave great service for such places, including a very sensual and enthusiastic bath, a very decent seemingly passionate BJ, and finished off with a vigorous but deft handjob. Demured full service as we couldn't really get it to fit.

The next day I gave Ceasar a try, where I had almost a mirror image experience, but for 1,500 with a shorter but cute and very pale 22 year old from Chiang Rai. Again ended by hand. I know its very lame to be just getting wanked off but at least no need to tip. By the way as usual the lineup at Ceasar was impressive - lots of attractive girls in their early 20s from 1500-1700, and some OK ones in the 'Bird Bird' class of 1,200.

Later that night a friend and I visited the streetwalkers around the bus station but I didn't see any girls I'd had luck with before, and felt wary of those that were there (there are quite a few criminal types around there - see my story of the snatched mobile phone). So we didn't take. There were however a few girls around, just not nearly as many as I'd seen in the past.

After that feeling restless we 'went for a drive' without a clear idea of destination. We thought about driving up to Udon Thani, but we needed to be in Roi-Et in a day or two, so thought in the meantime we might look at rural kareokes and those 24 hour short time hotels one sees out in the middle of nowhere. We stopped at a couple of kareokes in a small town along the highway from KK to Kalasin, called Chiang Yuen. This was a place of medium size, having one seven eleven and perhaps half a dozen nightspots which looked naughty. The two we stopped at were friendly enough, and all seemed to have available girls (even rather attractive), but we couldn't get a straight answer on price. I asked if they had a room on site and they said no but we could go down the road to the short time hotel. However they wanted us to come inside and drink first. These didn't seem like rip-off joints - I think they just didn't want to make the deal so quickly - but we just pressed on as sitting in a kareoke is a torture.

Next we moved on to Maha Sarakham, arriving about one AM. What a pleasant drive it was too, with a nearly full moon riding along to our side. Very pleasantly cool late at night here in Isaan. Along the way we pulled into two of those 24 hour motels but at one the man said he had no girls to offer, and at the other no one would even come out to us. I've heard some of those places have girls, but have never had any luck. Anyway in that big town (Sarakham) we found no girls at the soi near the mall (which I have described in previous reports). Inquries at the motorbike taxi stand led nowhere - the man claimed he knew nothing.

After taking a couple of rooms at the Vasu Hotel I went out again alone and found some girls at the remaining old lady house in the downtown - one woman was a quite attractive 30-35 year old, another was ugly and under 30, and one was a horrible fat old monstrosity. I took the attractive one to her room for 500 baht but she quailed at the sheer magnitude of my manhood, and insisted on just a handjob. After doing this in a spirited, capable, and friendly manner for quite a while, nibbling one nipple and diddling the other with her free hand, she started talking to the woman outside, telling her she was giving a handjob.

I couldn't finish this way, so I asked if the horrible old fat woman could fuck with a big cock. This was affirmed, and upstairs I went to my doom (one must always enjoin with these ladies in their own rooms, not their 'sister's'). The manner of this fatty was again very friendly and good humored, but her appearance was shocking bad. One of the worst I've ever had and you gentlemen know my past habits. So thats pretty bad. By the way while laying in her bed naked waiting I had a small panic attack, remembering the last time I'd visited such a place (gummy bears in Roi-Et), I'd locked my keys in my car. I leapt up and checked my pants - keys still there. After that she entered and doused me liberally with white powder from tits to testicals, making me sneeze. I felt like a baby with this enormous fatty (and gentlemen I'm not into feeling like a baby).

Bareback was had for 300 baht, but after a bit it became clear that her huge stomach was too much in my way, her cries of discomfort too distracting and some strange odors too unsettling, so I again desisted. As I left she made me have a nice genital-shower with ice cold water in the bathroom bucket (getting cold in Isaan already), and as I walked out the bottom floor the other two ladies flirted oddly, and seemed to express their concern about whether I'd finished or not. Anyway it was a treat to see the shabby old hotel/rooming house once again, and worth a few hundred baht for the story.

Doing a final turn after this depressing visit, I asked at the motorbike stand again and there were different men there. These offered to access girls, and soon they were back with the young mamasan. I actually knew her from previous visits, and she offered some girls I had before, but would have to roust them from their beds (it was by now three AM). So I didn't want to wait - too sleepy.

Home I went unrequited, but what a day.
Budget:
Two days hotels - 1,000 baht
girls - 4,300
foodstuffs - 700 baht
gases - 500
misc - 300
total 6,800 bahts

What's become of me gentlemen - I spend thrice what I did in better does and essentially get nothing.

Cheapy
11-02-09, 20:03
Udonthani

Visited "songs" close to Karin Hotel. Price is still 300b, plenty of brown spinners but service really sucked. No BBJ and had to insist on doggy. I even asked for refund on one sullen lady. Much better freebie options in Udon.

Khon Kaen

Got price down to 500b but should have taken better quality (600b) at first song on right as you enter the soi. Location, location! Brothal had much better selection than next door and male pimp spoke pretty good english. Sometimes, a little more adventure does not pay off. Oh well.

Opebo
11-03-09, 09:01
I always had terrible service at those small brothels in Khon Kaen, Cheapy. No BBBJ ever, and complaining intercourse. Some pretty girls though. How was your experience there service wise?

Siam Slummer
11-03-09, 19:29
I have to ask if you guys are actually using the service of the mamasan. I ask the mamasan who can smoke. She will show me the couple who can. I pick the cutest one. I then say to the mamasan if she boom real good she get a good tip. (200 baht). Mamasan talks to the girl. If you know you will go back give mama a 100 baht every now and then.

I am just a little surprised at what guys are saying here about not being able to find places, the girls are ugly old hags, shit service. Makes me feel as if we are in different countries.

Sure in isn't Soi 6 but for 500-700 baht some of the cute golden teenies are there and doing the best they can. Makes me wonder if you are expecting porn star service in a back water brothel in bum fuck nowhere!

Cheapy
11-04-09, 04:29
Sawadee Opebo, Service ok. I took a (500b) low quality girl so I insisted on the full package.

She worked for her money that night and I got the impression she doesn't get that much action. We both ended up happy but still kicking myself for not ponying up for more quality.

I have a 22 yr. Old GF in Udon who works at Central Plaza Mall but I do "stray" when I get the chance.

Back in USA 3 days now and going thru withdrawal. Bitchy girlfriend, bills, horrible food, and boredom.

Opebo
11-05-09, 09:26
Wow Opebo. This surprised me a lot. Tonight I rode around to a Soi next to a brothel that I know has sweet uni girls that normally hits me 700 all up including tip to find little house with 3 cuties in there. One was just 18 and bingo 350 baht plus 150 tip.500 all done.

I can't believe you think they are closed. Where do you think Thai guys are going. Every day 90% of the visitors across Thailand to brothels are Thai guys. They ain't going to swanky places and paying 1000 baht. For ten year sI have been enjoying this wee soi brothels and continue to do so. I love the atmosphere and have not paid more than a 700 at anytime.

In Pattaya only beach road will get you anything under a 1000 and most of them are pretty average looking. Give me my local brothel any day.

I'm happy you're happy, Aaron, but I must dispute the notion that there are 'uni girls' in brothels, particularly the low cost kind. I have a lot of experience with Thai universities, and I can say that while there are definitely a few co-eds who are discretely available as 'call girls', they always avoid anything where they could be exposed. These are middle class or aspiring middle class people, after all. The going price in Isaan college towns for real uni call girls is 1,500-2,000, and service is of course terrible (BJ not a given, terrible fear/disgust of farang, lots of complaints about sex - basically just a refrain of 'jep, jep' the whole time).

Regarding where I think the Thai guys are going - well the middle class ones go to the 1,200-2,200 baht 'ab nam nuit' (soapies), or to the higher end Kareokes, which are usually around 1,000-2,500. Most of my Thai friends routinely pay those high prices, and while they will drive up to Udon Thani for the illegal alien brothels because the quality is so good, they'll only go to the 'better houses' (there used to be a 600 baht house). They totally eschew the local 500 baht Thai-girl houses. However they don't care at all about service, only appearance.

For me service is the priority, and its always far better in Pattaya than in Isaan brothels. I usually pay about 500-800 in Pattaya, but I hardly ever get sex in Isaan for under 1,000 baht anymore (and when I do the woman is usually so awful that my dick wilts - see my recent report of a fat hog in Maha Sarakham).


...Makes me wonder if you are expecting porn star service in a back water brothel in bum fuck nowhere!

Well, I have to admit that I do try to get bareback, but I can do with out - BJ or handjob can work, sad though it is. But I guess we old guys just need more service to get it up and get off (I'm in my 40s). Also by the way, what area of Isaan are you in? I'm most experienced with Central Isaan up to Udon Thani. Just a few trips to southern Isaan and nortern Isaan.

Roi-Et:

Just a quick addendum to the last report - we did as planned and moved on to Roi-Et the next day. My Thai friend wanted to ask the bellmen if there were any call-girls available there, but the bellman never came to our room and for some reason my friend was too shy to ask him in the lobby under the eyes of the desk girl. Funny how shy Thai men can be about asking for girls. We went round to Mai Tai Soapy where we noted the same as we'd observed before - this soapy has a few (2-3) really surprisingly cute girls, and many (5-6) unattractive ones, but nothing in between - no average ones.

My friend took a really angelic looking young cutie, who was pale and thus to his taste (even sporting blonde hair!), and I took the same slim very cute, rather natural looking 20 year old I'd had last time I came through this town. In fact I wondered if it could be the same girl Leveller had such a nice time with in his report a little while back. Leveller if you read this I think that girl's name was 'Ann'.

Service was so so, just as before - nice BBBJ, lots of playing around, partial catbath, fairly sensual, but she begged and begged not to be fucked (size issue). Since I get so little enjoyment (none) out of condom-sex, I acquiesced to more BBBJ and finally hand relief - performed very well and with some sense of feeling/eroticism. Afterward my friend reported he had a great time with his Chiang Rai dumpling (white and soft). Yes, a great many girls in the Isaan sex biz are from the North. We each paid 1,500, no tip - he doesn't tip much unless its in the rare case of going to a low priced place, and I don't tip unless I get BBFS - in which in some cases I'll tip outrageously. I think my record was a 1,500 baht tip!

After my friend went to bed I drove around just out of curiosity and sure enough 'Gummy Bears' in the downtown was still open. I didn't stop, but reflecting on my recent explorations in the Khon Kaen/Maha Sarakham/Roi-Et area, I got to thinking - why is there such diversity among 300-600 baht venues in nearby towns? Different types of venues, greatly different levels of police interference, and wildly divergent quality.

Channy
11-08-09, 18:05
I'm happy you're happy, Aaron, but I must dispute the notion that there are 'uni girls' in brothels, particularly the low cost kind. I have a lot of experience with Thai universities, and I can say that while there are definitely a few co-eds who are discretely available as 'call girls', they always avoid anything where they could be exposed. These are middle class or aspiring middle class people, after all. The going price in Isaan college towns for real uni call girls is 1, 500-2, 000, and service is of course terrible (BJ not a given, terrible fear/disgust of farang, lots of complaints about sex. Basically just a refrain of 'jep, jep' the whole time).Fully agree with you opebo,

Yes opebo farang look for service first and thai men just care about physical appearance.

This is the main difference between thai men and farang men, but farang hardly understand it. If a thai man has 1000 baths to spend for a girl, he will go to soapie/mp (ever if will get 1 fuck)because he will be sure to find young, slim cute girls, ever if with the money he can bonk 5 times a cheap 200 baths girls but Isaan has girls from 100 baths to no limit, prices will depended about girls quality, place etc Freeler and skinless had post enough good reports about their cheap bonk In isaan being a regular customer with same girls allowed you better service without paid more, If members in need of exotism think they will get fresh, young and sex superstar in isaan they will be badly disapointed; girls in isaan are trained to serve Thai men; not the farang.

Leveller
11-09-09, 19:45
... My friend took a really angelic looking young cutie, who was pale and thus to his taste (even sporting blonde hair!), and I took the same slim very cute, rather natural looking 20 year old I'd had last time I came through this town. In fact I wondered if it could be the same girl Leveller had such a nice time with in his report a little while back. Leveller if you read this I think that girl's name was 'Ann'. ...It must have been the girl your friend picked, as she had blond (-ish) hair, fair skin and was angelic indeed. I did ask for her name, age and hometown but as per usual with my ST company, I forgot those ever since. Chiang Rai rings a bell though.

Opebo
11-14-09, 18:58
Korat - I've been warned by my Thai friends to pronounce it with the funny rolled R. Well my mongering Thai friend and I explored this town the other night, and found the selection on a weekend late evening at Pegasus Soapy to be very picked over. We then went to Ginza (the main location opposite the Klang Plaza shopping mall). The selection there was rapidly dwindling as closing time neared, and I twice just missed decent looking girls as the Thai dudes chose quickly. Finally I settled on one that seemed just barely acceptable, for 1,500.

In the room, alas, she turned out to be loud, raucous, and good-naturedly matey: an unfortunate type one runs across in Pattaya occasionally, but rarely in Isaan. As it turned out however she gave a really first rate (for Thailand) BBBJ, but intercourse was covered and brief, as after a few minutes at the summit of Mount Opebo she begged off, complaining the classic refrain of Thai womanhood - 'jep!' Finally a very long and amazingly skilled handjob led to the laying low of said Mount - she had a technique your reporter had never seen before, involving gripping the balls closely to the turgid shaft and pushing them very far up, while using the other hand to vigorously wank the glans with a milking motion. The really surprising part is this lady actually wanked my testicales along with my penis-head, which I feared would hurt but it didn't at all, nor was their any damage observable afterward. The orgasm attained was much above average for a mere HJ spurt.

I forgot to mention that my Thai friend could find nothing at either place good enough for his very meticulous taste, so after I finished he picked me up again and we went to the Chao Praiya hotel just down the street, where we found many girls in the street in front. By many I mean around 12 girls, of what I thought was reasonable quality, but it was pricey at 1,000 - they were cute enough to do, but it seems a bit rough to pay 1,000 for mediocrity in Isaan. Times are changing, prices skyrocketing. However nothing good enough for my friend, so we idly walked around the moat/park. There we found about a dozen more girls here and there, and though they were on the whole better than I remember that park streetwalker scene, they were so below the standard that my friend would accept that he refused even to speak to them. I did however and found that they mostly asked for 500, accept for a few older ones who agreed to my suggestion of 300. Many looked very 'druggie'.

We also asked one of the motorbike taxi-men in this area if Korat has 'song supanee' - small brothels - and he said it did, and that they charged 300, but when we asked him to lead us thither, he said it was too poor and he'd show us another place - turned out to be the Hotel Chao Priaya scene. Still nothing good enough there for my typically picky Thai friend, so we went back to the hotel.

So it seems Korat might have a further cheap option somewhere, but I have as yet to discover it. Oh and lastly I was breathalized while driving around this town - yet another importation of American-style Police State in Thailand. Take care gentlemen!

Opebo
11-21-09, 20:33
I drove to Khon Kaen yet again, and as usual found it exhausting to operate a motor-car in a large town. I think using automobiles is of debatable utility, don't you gentlemen?

I wanted to visit Ceasar but had already parked at the Kosa parking garage and dreaded entering traffic again, so I looked at Kosa Soapy. At five thirty PM it was full of girls, a few of which were pretty. They even had three sideliners - kind of a new thing at this Soapy - for 2,200. I tried the youngest looking one, who turned out to be 24, with large fake breasts and very pretty overall. Strangely enough this one very capable, enthusiastically taking a very long, deep, hard fuck without complaint, and even appearing to enjoy it. Claimed she was horny - I understood the Thai word when she said it but now I can't remember it. Good BBBJ, and some kissing with toungue too (been absolutely ages since I've done that).

Alas I could not come wearing the condom, even though it was lubricated with mineral oil and thus quite compliant. Didn't break though, and I had to try to finish via hand-job, but couldn't even finish that way. She seemed a bit befuddled - perhaps no one had ever failed to spurt with her given her looks - but I find if I can't get what I want I often cannot come. I thought I'd report on her though and the rather extensive lineup at Kosa because I think it would be very satisfying to the less demanding mongers.

So I left missing 2,200 baht (no tip), and retaining a copious semen-load. Got rid of that and another 1,000 baht later that night with a regular I contact by telephone, but not before taking a turn around the bus station by car and finding very few (only around 6) girls out. Maybe it is due to the cold weather - down to 16 degrees every night up here in Isaan. I'm not sure what that is in real terms - maybe 60. The girls look very cute in their little winter outfits, though they still show a lot of skin - anyone else find shivering girls sexy? Maybe it makes them appear vulnerable.

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Opebo
11-28-09, 20:26
Bus station scene radically reduced due to one of these horrible fairs being set up in that area, centered on exactly the street where the girls usually most hang out. Still a few girls at the quite end of the bus station itself but no more than half a dozen when I checked.

Hopefully it will come back, but man do I hate these special occasions and fairs.

Lastman
12-07-09, 17:48
Heck this is an ugly part of the country and sadly not many great looking girls. There is really only one place to meet girls and that is the speed disco, many young ones looking to hook with a foreigner.

Saying that like the rest of Thailand easy to pick up a girl / smile a lot and they will discreetly go back to your room. There are not many jobs in the area and they are so thankful for the extra money.

But Patts it ain't and the temples in the area not a lot.

Pita123
12-09-09, 16:10
Claimed she was horny - I understood the Thai word when she said it but now I can't remember it.

Was the word perhaps see-ow?

Pita123
12-09-09, 16:18
Heck this is an ugly part of the country and sadly not many great looking girls. There is really only one place to meet girls and that is the speed disco, many young ones looking to hook with a foreigner.

Saying that like the rest of Thailand easy to pick up a girl / smile a lot and they will discreetly go back to your room. There are not many jobs in the area and they are so thankful for the extra money.

But Patts it ain't and the temples in the area not a lot.

I always figured this part of the country was to be visited with a girl you found in Bangkok. What brings you up there?

Opebo
12-09-09, 19:45
Was the word perhaps see-ow?

Yeah that was it.

Opebo
12-12-09, 20:50
Having recently come into 10,000 baht and having been offered a lift to Khon Kaen I decided to splurge.

We looked in at Lilly Massage at the Princess hotel, were there were quite a lot of girls at two in the afternoon. Quality was as always relatively poor at this second rate joint. I didn't take.

There I found a fair lineup at Kosa soapy, though not as good as my previous visits. I took a 23 year old sideliner for 2,200, and though she had big fake breasts, not really all that attractive for the cost. Service was poor, with covered everything, complaints about size, and a mediocre handjob finish.

After this I took a break and rented a motorbike. As usual this was something of an eye-opener, making KK seem a much more appealing place. I've driven round it in a car but driving a car is always less fun than slipping round in a little bike, as one must worry about traffic and running over people. Rates seem to be 200 per day for a crappy Wave.

Thus very mobile I went to Ceasar soapy, a bit late at ten PM, so the selection seemed a bit picked over. I took a fun cute but somehow 'off' 23 year old girl for 1,500. By off I mean that though she was very cute, smiling, with a sexy body and a nice face, she had myriad small imperfections which overall made her not such a turn on. Good BBBJ, and somehow that and her various hand ministrations had me very hard and turned on. Strangely enough she really liked to have a rough deep hard bang - alas covered so of course I could not attain the release of my microscopic opebos after having done so once earlier in the day.

Finally I had a cruise round the bus station, where there was still a less than normal selection - perhaps a total of 15 girls in various little groups. I found one I'd had before and at the sex hotel while watching Japanese porn received a really good BBBJ of about 15 minutes duration. I did rise to the challenge, but not very eagerly. I then banged her bb for 45 minutes before finally being able to release. Gave her 800 baht.

Kind of odd when one girl gets you so turned on but can't make you come, and then another can't get you particularly enthused, but can make you come, due to the natural sex.

I finally ended the night by visiting The Harem Club in the Khon Kaen hotel at about one AM. What a fun place - good, seemingly very tongue in cheek band, lots of hot hosteses running around in slinky red dresses dancing for or grinding in the laps of Thai high rollers. Also a fair number of really fine 'coyote' dancers (I hate that term). I did notice that a few of the high rollers did slip into a secret looking back room kind of place, following their chosen hottie through a curtained door. One way or another I guess sex may be available there or any way through there, presumably at a very high price. The enthusiasm and seemingly self-conscious ridiculousness of this venue made me think of old Los Vegas.


Total expenditures for the busy day:

Girls - 4,500
Rooms - 550
Bike - 200
food/drink - 1,000
total -- 6,250 baht

Xdentx
12-13-09, 09:02
I'm planning about three nights in UT on my way to Laos. Anyone have first hand experience with the Irish Clock as a place to stay. It's only mentioned briefly in this forum but has good reports on another. Looks like a nice location with 6 or 7 rooms to rent. PM me if you wish. Thanks

Channy
12-13-09, 17:56
Heck this is an ugly part of the country and sadly not many great looking girls. There is really only one place to meet girls and that is the speed disco, many young ones looking to hook with a foreigner.This is only your opinion, I like Buriram, it s a quiet and relaxing small town, with delicious and cheap isaan food, friendly people. And " speed disco" is not the only place to find girls. Just read the archives if you don t trust me.

The only point I agree with you is: the few number of great looking girls in p4p system

But if you have been in Buriram only for p4p and high hopes about quality girls and low prices I understand your desillusion.

Opebo
12-13-09, 18:09
I forgot to mention that I did stop in at the little old time soi of brothels in Khon Kaen where I was asked for 1,000 as usual but the girls quickly admitted that the real price was 500, just as before. There seemed quite a lot of girls there and a few were reasonably attractive. Nice to see it still open, but I didn't take as I've only ever had bad service there. I think it is Soi Theparak 5 as per google maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=&vps=2&jsv=194b&sll=16.432381,102.833169&sspn=0.009406,0.013797&ie=UTF8&geocode=FfW9-gAdvg0hBg&split=0), but I'm not certain. At any rate its in that very close vicinity.

Also I'd like to remark that both the Sawatdee and the Roma are fine hotels to stay in the 230-500 baht range, though the hot water is very poor at the Roma. The only really excellent farang restaurant I found in the town was Didine Restaurant. Great place. Lastly there is a enormous new excrescence in this booming town - a 'Central World Mall'. Best avoided.

Jeff Sinclair
12-14-09, 06:42
In reply to udon query

I usually stay here when in town.

Its the best place in my opinion.

Clean rooms, good western food, free internet and good staff.

It is a wee bit dear compared to Top Mansion on same soi or to ruk suk(up near soi 2 brothels).

I have never had a problem here in the 4 years I have been staying.

Guest friendly etc.

Lee66
12-15-09, 06:00
just came to udon after a year or so . I lost 800 bht trying to get bbfs. 2 times at soi jet lao house, one at soi song. last times I was here was always able to get 2 out of 3 gurls for bbfs. once in a while ask for extra bht. this time terrible. maybe ngo's trying to scare the girls. I thought they were not getting funding any more, as the authorities claim aids rate is going down.

Opebo
12-15-09, 17:01
Lee66 I had similar experiences on my last visits two Udon Thani around a year ago, so I haven't been back since. As far as I can tell those sois have become useless.

Xdentx
12-25-09, 00:52
Have my reservations for late February now at Irish Clock. I like to mix things up a little, so have been checking out DIA for UT material. In addition to the mall and possibly the soi's, I'll sample the DIA material. Anyone had any experience with a DIA lady in UT? pm me please. thanks

Csun213
12-25-09, 21:43
Hi, I am going to Nong Khai and Udon with some friends of mine. None of us have even being there. I would like to find a motel where I don't have to walk though the lobby doing the walk of shame.

I don't care about how many stars the hotel/motel have but I need hot water, AC, TV and in room wifi because one of my friends need it for his work. Thanks for any help.

PS, we are going the first week in March.

Goyave
12-26-09, 03:20
Hi, I am going to Nong Khai and Udon with some friends of mine. None of us have even being there. I would like to find a motel where I don't have to walk though the lobby doing the walk of shame.

I don't care about how many stars the hotel/motel have but I need hot water, AC, TV and in room wifi because one of my friends need it for his work. Thanks for any help.

PS, we are going the first week in March.

The hotels that I know in these two towns are all girl friendly, but have a lobby. I also know a few "resorts" (as they called them here, but they are not very different than a motel) where you won't have to do "the walk of shame", but none of them has in room Wi-Fi.

You might find the following websites and webpages useful:

http://www.udonmap.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=70
http://www.nongkhaimap.com/nongkhaiforum/accommodation-f99.html
http://www.northeast-hotel.com/en/list_udonthani.php
http://www.northeast-hotel.com/en/list_nong_khai.php

Csun213
12-26-09, 06:38
The hotels that I know in these two towns are all girl friendly, but have a lobby. I also know a few "resorts" (as they called them here, but they are not very different than a motel) where you won't have to do "the walk of shame", but none of them has in room Wi-Fi.

You might find the following websites and webpages useful:

http://www.udonmap.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54&Itemid=70
http://www.nongkhaimap.com/nongkhaiforum/accommodation-f99.html
http://www.northeast-hotel.com/en/list_udonthani.php
http://www.northeast-hotel.com/en/list_nong_khai.php

Thanks, I will read the links and pass the information onto my friends.

Opebo
12-26-09, 12:19
Is BBBJ a norm at Khon Kaen soapies? (Kosa, Caesar and the one near roma hotel forgot the name.)

Can we have 2 shots in 90 minutes?

I've never been to the one near Roma.. wish I knew the name I'd go check it out. But BBBJ is the norm at Caesar and also at the second-rate Lilly Massage, but I've only gotten it about 70% of the time at Kosa. Some prima donnas there.

As for 2 shots I have no idea - it takes me most of the 90 minutes to get one out, and I can't imagine having enough libido for a second.

Opebo
12-26-09, 19:06
Well, gentlemen, I hate that I must always beat this horse to death, but I went to Khon Kaen again. I promise I will visit Udon within weeks and report, but for now its just boring old KK.

Even though I have visited this place all too much, I discovered something new the other day - Villa Soapy. Villa is the third 'real soapy' in KK, which I had heard of but never visited. Wow, what a place - it had lots of girls at nine PM on a Friday night, and some weren't bad at all, with a 'low' price of only 1,300 for all girls I saw.

By the way, let me say a word about architecture and decor. This may seem a non-sequitur, but really, gents, the old and decrepit soapy sauna is so much more charming than the new. I've never mentioned it, but Ceasar is pretty old and run down, but Villa even more so. Compared to the slick, newer Kosa, these really give a boost to the libido. I think it is because they remind one of the 1970s - the last time that hedonistic sex was really a going concern in this sad world. Villa seemed large, with lots of rooms, and the usual mirrors along the bed, but alas no porn on the TV. The best recommendation I can give is that it had a very nice big bathtub.

So, back to the poonanny. I took a really amazingly attractive 22 year old - slim and a bit tall. Why is she 1,300 at Villa when plenty of cows are 1,700 or even 2,000 at Kosa. I don't know but it might be due to differences in skin tone too subtle for farang perception. In any case she was fairly pale. Service was fine, with decent BBBJ, some friendly closed mouth kissing, and so forth. I even 'went down' a bit - a rarity for me - and it was fresh and seemed shockingly tiny.

I donned the absurd torture device that they do insist on, just to go through the motions. Of course I enjoyed it not at all, but I noticed that she actually did seem to, a bit, and I had also noted she had expressed no size-related fears when introduced to my constant companion. So I went to work with insouciance and subtlety, but steely determination, to pursuade a young cutey to bend to my requests. I really didn't hold out much hope, but finally she did acquiesce, though for a truly sickening tip. Thus I was able to finish with reasonable satisfaction (though on her trim little belly and nubile breasts), but ended up very broke. Well, at least she was awfully cute.

I discovered a new value accomodation in KK - The PP Hotel, not far from the Train Station. Only 300 baht for a basic room with hot water and air. Large, not old, place, of about 6-7 stories with elevator and 24 hour very nice front desk.

In other notations I did drop by the soi of small traditional (fake-Kareoke) brothels, and there were a lot of reasonably attractive women there, most quoting me the 'real price' at 500 baht, with a few demanding 700 for the farang unpleasantness.

I also rather foolishly visited Violin Kareoke - the high end place - at about 3:00 AM. Yes, it was still open! I was charged almost 1,000 baht for the room, girls drinks, etc etc, but lucked out with a 'game' girl who made out with me extensively, and gave me a pretty good hand job with lots of nipple nibbling in the room, no tip demanded. She kept saying 'no sex in room' though, and finally I had to finish myself off. Kind of a silly arrangement (almost like going to a strip club in the Bad Place), but it was strangely titillating, and there were some quite attractive girls there. They told me it was 2,000 to the girl to go out for 3 hours of actual sex, pretty much just like Cleo Kareoke in Pullman Hotel. Girls roughly equivalent but perhaps slightly less attractive.

Channy
12-28-09, 16:48
Well, gentlemen, I hate that I must always beat this horse to death, but I went to Khon Kaen again. I promise I will visit Udon within weeks and report, but for now its just boring old KK.

Even though I have visited this place all too much, I discovered something new the other day. Villa Soapy. Villa is the third 'real soapy' in KK, which I had heard of but never visited. Wow, what a place. It had lots of girls at nine PM on a Friday night, and some weren't bad at all, with a 'low' price of only 1, 300 for all girls I saw.

By the way, let me say a word about architecture and decor. This may seem a non-sequitur, but really, gents, the old and decrepit soapy sauna is so much more charming than the new. I've never mentioned it, but Ceasar is pretty old and run down, but Villa even more so. Compared to the slick, newer Kosa, these really give a boost to the libido. I think it is because they remind one of the 1970s. The last time that hedonistic sex was really a going concern in this sad world. Villa seemed large, with lots of rooms, and the usual mirrors along the bed, but alas no porn on the TV. The best recommendation I can give is that it had a very nice big bathtub.

So, back to the poonanny. I took a really amazingly attractive 22 year old. Slim and a bit tall. Why is she 1, 300 at Villa when plenty of cows are 1, 700 or even 2, 000 at Kosa. I don't know but it might be due to differences in skin tone too subtle for farang perception. In any case she was fairly pale. Service was fine, with decent BBBJ, some friendly closed mouth kissing, and so forth. I even 'went down' a bit. A rarity for me. And it was fresh and seemed shockingly tiny.

I donned the absurd torture device that they do insist on, just to go through the motions. Of course I enjoyed it not at all, but I noticed that she actually did seem to, a bit, and I had also noted she had expressed no size-related fears when introduced to my constant companion. So I went to work with insouciance and subtlety, but steely determination, to pursuade a young cutey to bend to my requests. I really didn't hold out much hope, but finally she did acquiesce, though for a truly sickening tip. Thus I was able to finish with reasonable satisfaction (though on her trim little belly and nubile breasts), but ended up very broke. Well, at least she was awfully cute.

I discovered a new value accomodation in KK. The PP Hotel, not far from the Train Station. Only 300 baht for a basic room with hot water and air. Large, not old, place, of about 6-7 stories with elevator and 24 hour very nice front desk.

In other notations I did drop by the soi of small traditional (fake-Kareoke) brothels, and there were a lot of reasonably attractive women there, most quoting me the 'real price' at 500 baht, with a few demanding 700 for the farang unpleasantness.

I also rather foolishly visited Violin Kareoke. The high end place. At about 3:00 AM. Yes, it was still open! I was charged almost 1, 000 baht for the room, girls drinks, etc etc, but lucked out with a 'game' girl who made out with me extensively, and gave me a pretty good hand job with lots of nipple nibbling in the room, no tip demanded. She kept saying 'no sex in room' though, and finally I had to finish myself off. Kind of a silly arrangement (almost like going to a strip club in the Bad Place), but it was strangely titillating, and there were some quite attractive girls there. They told me it was 2, 000 to the girl to go out for 3 hours of actual sex, pretty much just like Cleo Kareoke in Pullman Hotel. Girls roughly equivalent but perhaps slightly less attractive.Glad to know you visited villa massage after so many times living here Opebo, but 1300 baths! I used to know the golden age when price was 800 baths. Anyway I always got good time in this complex, have you visited their hotel? Until 2004 prices was 200 baths for air con room with tv(no cable) and hot shower, but rooms was bad maintened with tear sheet bed, and disgusting bathroom, but you are in the center of everything, many girls working the massage and the KTV live here too(alone or with their thai bf). I spend so many good times in this hotel making party with girls. A crap hotel but excellent to get new friends and girls from KTV was not the less attractive

About your last report, I agree with you Roma is a good place to stay(it was the residence of skinless if I ve good memory), sawasdee hotel is excellent too, I don t know now but before the top floor had ordinary room for 160 baths. But rooms was so hot. Also Roma and sawasdee are really well located.

Opebo
12-29-09, 11:19
Thanks for your comments Channy. Yes, the price of everything has shot through the roof in Thailand - its just not cheap anymore. Roma is OK at 500 baht for air and 250 for fan now, but only a few of the fan rooms have hot water. I find hot water far more important in Isaan in the winter than air. I did not know that there was a hotel connected to Villa Massage.. I wonder what was the name? Maybe Kaen Inn?

Bella Oxmyx
01-01-10, 16:05
Even though I have visited this place all too much, I discovered something new the other day - Villa Soapy. Villa is the third 'real soapy' in KK, which I had heard of but never visited. Wow, what a place - it had lots of girls at nine PM on a Friday night, and some weren't bad at all, with a 'low' price of only 1,300 for all girls I saw.

By the way, let me say a word about architecture and decor. This may seem a non-sequitur, but really, gents, the old and decrepit soapy sauna is so much more charming than the new. I've never mentioned it, but Ceasar is pretty old and run down, but Villa even more so. Compared to the slick, newer Kosa, these really give a boost to the libido. I think it is because they remind one of the 1970s - the last time that hedonistic sex was really a going concern in this sad world. Villa seemed large, with lots of rooms, and the usual mirrors along the bed, but alas no porn on the TV. The best recommendation I can give is that it had a very nice big bathtub.
Could you give some detailed information please on the location of Villa in Khon Kaen?

Opebo
01-02-10, 14:59
Could you give some detailed information please on the location of Villa in Khon Kaen?Sure: the location of Villa in Khon Kaen (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Villa+Massage,+Nai+Muang,+Muang+Khon+kaen,+Khon+Kaen+40000,+Thailand&vps=3&jsv=196c&sll=16.003576,102.620544&sspn=1.718659,2.458191&g=khon+kaen+thailand&ie=UTF8&geocode=FfzD-gAdWichBg&split=0)

Bella Oxmyx
01-02-10, 16:48
Sure: the location of Villa in Khon Kaen (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Villa+Massage,+Nai+Muang,+Muang+Khon+kaen,+Khon+Kaen+40000,+Thailand&vps=3&jsv=196c&sll=16.003576,102.620544&sspn=1.718659,2.458191&g=khon+kaen+thailand&ie=UTF8&geocode=FfzD-gAdWichBg&split=0)The Google Map link points to where Pizza Bake is.

I have heard of a soapy around the Roma hotel before. But I have never seen any signage anywhere in that area for a soapy, Villa, or anything else. Is there signage? Is it on the Roma side of the street, or the other side? Is it inside another building, or in back of something?

Opebo
01-02-10, 17:59
The Google Map link points to where Pizza Bake is.

I have heard of a soapy around the Roma hotel before. But I have never seen any signage anywhere in that area for a soapy, Villa, or anything else. Is there signage? Is it on the Roma side of the street, or the other side? Is it inside another building, or in back of something?Sorry, I don't remember exactly where it is, nor do I remember any signage - there may be none in Latin characters. I believe someone told me it was near or associated with, or connected to, the 'Kaen Inn'. In any case any tuk tuk can take you there, or you can just ask around near the Roma/Pizza Bake area. Asking for 'Villa Ab Nam Nuat' should probably work very well.

Khunyai
01-03-10, 02:13
Walk out of the front door of the Roma to the street and turn right. Go less than a block and you will come to a bunch of vendors selling food. The Villa is right across the street. It's a large building and does not have a very conspicuous sign in Thai. Just cross the street and enter through one of two doors (the door near the corner takes you right in near the fishbowl).

HotShaneHot
01-08-10, 14:30
I was go back to Nongkhai to see my friend who run and own the Jungle Bar.

It is the wildest nightspot in Nongkhai.

I was happy to know that all the brothels wher reopen now ther are so maney to see.

But you need to get tuck tuck to show you wher ther are.

You will never friend them.

Me and my friend have moter bike then pay tuk tuk to take us around to wher they are.

We pay hime 100 thai bart.

Then we go back for some fun?

Opebo
01-08-10, 18:38
I stopped by Villa once again, where I found that there were a lot of girls in the 'second class' window. When I had visited before I didn't even notice the second window - the first set of girls just sits on a long set of sofas in the open, and are 1,300. The cheaper 1,000 baht girls are just behind a window quite far from the seating area. Perhaps it is intentional to make their imperfections less perceivable, but I saw one that seemed very good looking, and the papa said she was 24.

In the room she turned out to have had a child in the past, so she wasn't quite up to the standard of Khon Kaen soapies. I guess that's the deal at Villa - the 1,000 baht girls have a burst seed-pod, the 1,300 don't. It really does make a big difference, even if there are no stretch marks. Anyway I remember at Lilly (the second-rate soapy at Princess Hotel) the girls had all reproduced, while most had not at the higher-levels of Kosa and Ceasar soapies (say the 1,500-2,200 baht levels).

So, perhaps in consequence of this shortcoming, BBBJ was unusually good, but BBFS could not be had. I went through the motions for a long while in the three standard positions, joylessly and without any pleasure, but finally removed the horrible rubber and acquiesced to a mere handjob. It went on for ages, and I really just didn't enjoy it, so I suggested we just give up, but the girl - as they sometimes do - took this as a challenge and redoubled her efforts. Finally I managed to finish, but without feeling satisfied.

Just messing around with a bit of BBBJ and various other play, and finishing up by handjob is a marginally acceptable form of release if the girl is very young and good looking, but its really not worth doing if she's had a kid and is over say 23 or 24. In my opinion, of course.

Opebo
01-12-10, 20:39
...in Nongkhai.

I was happy to know that all the brothels wher reopen now ther are so maney to see.

HSH - this seems to be the trend throughout the country - loosening of the old Red/Thaksinish stricter ways. I love the new government. Enjoy it while it lasts gentlemen, no doubt the horrible populists will be back soon.

I recently visited the Sois in Udon, and found them thriving and very 'out in the open' - doors open and girls in sexy outfits visible as you strolled in the street in Soi 2. I drove down Soi Seven as well - lots of touts quoting 700 to bring girls to either the short time hotels or even some regular hotels, and I was shocked to see that one regular house off to the side soi on the left as you enter the main Soi looking open (didn't stop to check, but recommend that someone do so, it used to be a hell of a nice house). I also heard Soi Sow Fie Dang was open as usual but didn't visit.

In Soi 2 I visited the 'better' house on the side-soi to the left (the one where the hidden camera was supposedly brought in), and though it was open it was very picked over and had more men than women in the waiting/choosing area. The girls were very good looking as usual, and priced at the same 600. However when we visited the other houses there were lots of women - more than on previous visits, and many of them were on a par with the 'better' house. However the price for the better looking girls in the lesser houses is now 500-600 depending on the girl, and there was even one 800 baht girl in one house. The pimpmen stated she'd just arrived, though she didn't look as attractive to me as the extremely cute 500 baht girl sitting next to her. Anyway don't worry as there are still plenty of 400 baht girls available - still mostly very attractive but around mid to late twenties in age.

Interestingly the girls were very friendly - usually they are not at all friendly in these types of places. No sullen looks, and lots of smiles and joking friendly attempts to speak English. I suspect its the current 'open' policing which has left them feeling cheerful, the poor persecuted things. Anyway, alas, I didn't actually try any girls as I was exhausted from travelling to Udon, and I kept thinking of Lee66's warnings - I suspect I would be extremely unlikely to get anything I wanted in the room. So, the trip was just a survey, but I'm thinking of returning soon to actually try a couple.

And I may just wear a yellow shirt when I go!

Oh, and btw, the whole town retains its party atmosphere - perhaps it is high season, or perhaps it is the blessed loosening of strictures, but the farang streets and bar-areas seemed thriving and full of very farang-style dirty girls (the opposite of the Soi cuties, but very nice). Prices quoted in most bars were in fact Pattaya level - 500 short, 1,000 long time, 300 baht bar fine. So don't accept or believe if someone tells you its 1,000 short and more for long time in Udon, unless perhaps the girl is a true knockout. Finally there seemed to be a few more late night or all night bars, and even though the law is apparently still the absurd 12:00 AM closing, most bars seemed to have paid their 1:00-2:00 AM fees.

Channy
01-13-10, 19:11
Thanks for your comments Channy. Yes, the price of everything has shot through the roof in Thailand. Its just not cheap anymore. Roma is OK at 500 baht for air and 250 for fan now, but only a few of the fan rooms have hot water. I find hot water far more important in Isaan in the winter than air. I did not know that there was a hotel connected to Villa Massage. I wonder what was the name? Maybe Kaen Inn?Well so finaly you find the second window, and from 800 bath to 1000 baths it s not a big inflation. 200 baths more in 10 years. So 20 baths increase per year only.

The hotel name of villa complex was not kaen inn, but simply "Villa hotel". It was ever recommanded in lonely planet!. But maybe the name has change now.

Anyway no signs of street hookers in front of Roma hotel? I m wondered because roma hotel is opposite to a small soi where a small baan pouying was located. But girls mostly in their 30's. But maybe has gone?

Opebo
01-14-10, 19:30
Well so finaly you find the second window, and from 800 bath to 1000 baths it s not a big inflation. 200 baths more in 10 years. So 20 baths increase per year only.

True, but the girls in the 1,000 baht window were really below 'doable'.


Anyway no signs of street hookers in front of Roma hotel? I m wondered because roma hotel is opposite to a small soi where a small baan pouying was located. But girls mostly in their 30's. But maybe has gone?

I did see some streetwalkers near Roma but they were the same ones I had seen near the bus station. Or rather, some of the worst/oldest from the bus station. I've never seen the small house you describe, but I've never looked. Was it alone on its soi or were there several?

Opebo
01-14-10, 19:55
I returned twice to Sois and got precisely what I was looking for, so I'm in love with the place again. Price 400 plus a tip one day and 300 plus the next. I revisited soi 7 where I found the much missed house had in fact not reopened.

We also visited the Oscar and Valentine soapies, where we found a good lineup at Oscar and a so-so one at Valentine. The former had around 20 girls with slightly below par ones at the 1350 level and several very nice ones at the 1,650 and 1,850 levels. The latter had just one very pretty but jaded and exhausted looking Bangkok girl at 1,850 while the other half-dozen priced at 1,450 were all a bit too worn.

Budget for the two days:

Hotels - 350+250= 600 bahts
foodstuffs - 900
girls - 1,500
misc - 600
Total - 3,600 bahts

Lastman
01-15-10, 17:42
This is only your opinion, I like Buriram, it s a quiet and relaxing small town, with delicious and cheap isaan food, friendly people. And " speed disco" is not the only place to find girls. Just read the archives if you don t trust me.

The only point I agree with you is: the few number of great looking girls in p4p system

But if you have been in Buriram only for p4p and high hopes about quality girls and low prices I understand your desillusion.This is a p4p forum, hence the comments, if you are promoting buriram as a quiet / relaxing place - Buriram expats / trip advisor etc are for you. In comparison to the rest of thailand, completely unremarkable in the scenery and quality of the jungle / sights. It is a small relaxing town and if you read the whole post rather than the short quote, I did say the usual smile, be discreet and it isn't a problem to get girls. You have the usual rule of any bar / pool hall / karo bar etc if you are nice / smile etc but that is same all across Asia.

Lastman
01-15-10, 17:59
I always figured this part of the country was to be visited with a girl you found in Bangkok. What brings you up there?I have travelled extensively over this region, as part of work, researching the temples and also the reports of violence and trouble. This province is listed as one of the parts civil war could start if the king dies. Thas etc There are concerns over the number of Cambodian men in the region.

Buriram is a small town but is the city for people in the region and is very quiet and laidback,

I have been involved in a lot of charity work with families in the region who don't have clean water and electricity Supplying water pumps, water filteration, solar power to charge batteries during the day.

This part of the country is Khymer in history, for the layman Cambodian until recently. It does have friendly expats and the people are friendly. But rural.

Imo nicer parts to visit, nothing you can't see in surin etc, however if you like quiet rural places not a bad place to live. Hence the high number of expats.

But if you are looking for a good thai wife. There are plenty here who would love a farand boyfriend but not interested in working in bars etc.

Pita123
01-15-10, 22:57
But if you are looking for a good thai wife. There are plenty here who would love a farand boyfriend but not interested in working in bars etc.

Yeah, I have a regular girl from up there. Beautiful women. Maybe if I'm ready for a wife I'll head up and go shopping.

Bumholes1
01-15-10, 23:06
Yeah, I have a regular girl from up there. Beautiful women. Maybe if I'm ready for a wife I'll head up and go shopping.

There's always many to be found in Big C - especially the food hall. Full of smiles for the farang and more than a few "want to try a farang"

Mart Cham
01-28-10, 09:22
I recently visited the Sois in Udon, and found them thriving


Can confirm. Went to soi 7 for the first time at Christmas. A Thai guy (whom I had just met in a karaoke bar) brought me there.
Visited 4 houses and the line-up was acceptable to good in all of them. In the 4th one I visited it was outstanding: 4 girls, all young, all doable, 2 of them were real cuties. I was quoted 300 bahts in all of them. Was surprised as I went with a Thai guy and expected him to get a commission. Maybe it's because I looked not really horny/eager as it was 3am and I had had quite a few beers.
Went with one of the real cuties. As expected her performance (no BJ, CFS) was so-so but at 300 bahts a shot still very good value especially considering her age and looks... Gave her and the Thai guy a small tip.

Directions: haven't seen any soi sign, neither could I see this soi on my map but basically if you drive on Wattananuwong Rd coming from the hospital and past Adulyadet Rd, it's the first soi on the left after the TV/radio (?) tower (a big red and white tower).

Goyave
01-28-10, 10:10
...Directions: haven't seen any soi sign, neither could I see this soi on my map but basically if you drive on Wattananuwong Rd coming from the hospital and past Adulyadet Rd, it's the first soi on the left after the TV/radio (?) tower (a big red and white tower).

It seems that you've visited Soi Sow Fai Deng actually, not Adulyadet Soi 7 (not exactly the same area, nor the same prices nowadays).

Other members and I wrote a few reports about this place in the past and I even attached the following map with one of them: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=122273

Mart Cham
01-28-10, 10:16
It seems that you've visited Soi Sow Fai Deng actually, not Adulyadet Soi 7 (not exactly the same area, nor the same prices nowadays).

Other members and I wrote a few reports about this place in the past and I even attached the following map with one of them: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=122273

I stand corrected. The Thai guy called it soi jet (without telling me of which 'thanon').

Goyave
01-28-10, 10:35
I stand corrected. The Thai guy called it soi jet (without telling me of which 'thanon').

Adulyadet Soi 7 is also another famous location for our hobby, but have a look at the map and you will see that it's not exactly in the same area.

The red and white tower that you've noticed belongs to the CAT International Telephone Office, and the nearest brothels (from this tower) on the left side of Wattana Nuwong road (coming from the Paolo Hospital) are those of Soi Sow Fai Deng, as other members can confirm, despite what you've understood or what your Thai guide said.

I can describe all the brothels of this soi if needed. I'm a frequent visitor of these fine establishments since year 2002.

Mart Cham
01-28-10, 11:21
Adulyadet Soi 7 is also another famous location for our hobby, but have a look at the map and you will see that it's not exactly in the same area.

The white and red tower that you've noticed belongs to the CAT International Telephone Office, and the nearest brothels (from this tower) on the left side of Wattana Nuwong road (coming from the Paolo Hospital) are those of Soi Sow Fai Deng, as other members can confirm, despite what you've understood or what your Thai guide said.

I can describe all the brothels of this soi if needed. I'm a frequent visitor of these fine establishments since year 2002.

I can see Adulyadet soi 7 on my map, I'll give it a whirl next time I'm in town. Thanks for the clarification.

When I was finished at Soi Sow Fai Daeng I had a Leo with my newly found Thai friend and he wanted to show me another place. We rode a looong time (at least 15-20 minutes) and the guy was driving really fast, at some point I lost him and drove back to the city center. Must have been a hell of a good place if he so much wanted to go there despite the distance. Too bad...

I have to say that the scene in Udon is quite lively compared to other Isaan cities I've been to (I lived in UBon for a couple of months). I wasn't too impressed with the Farang orientated scene though, the only very few hot bargirls I've seen were already with expats/long time tourists.

Goyave
01-28-10, 12:04
... I wasn't too impressed with the Farang orientated scene though, the only very few hot bargirls I've seen were already with expats/long time tourists.

You're right. For me, the Farang orientated scene in Udon Thani is not really interesting (girls are usually older, less attractive and more expensive than at the Thai-orientated places).

Nong Khai might be worth a visit too after the night has fallen (fun can also be had in the afternoon, but many venues open only later in the evening). The most beautiful P4P girls I've ever seen so far in the Land of Smiles were working in a brothel on Soi Suk Pracha in Nong Khai (but you can't do the deed on premises there, it's just a pick-up joint).

Maybe your Thai friend wanted to go there. Or at a local karaoke place in the province... I know quite a few in this area, but most of them are a waste of time in my humble opinion and the girls are usually way overpriced.

There are several other brothels in Nong Khai that are very similar to those that you can find in Udon Thani, but they are less numerous and the girls are often older and less attractive.

Dcpublius
01-28-10, 22:10
Nong Khai. Nice little city. More than any other in the region it actually has some charm and laid back feel to it. I read about Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 and decided to check it out. I drove by probably a half dozen times at different times of day and I may have seen 1-3 decent looking girls. The vast majority is old and ugly. I also walked by but did not actually go in to take a close look. I was not impressed. This is certainly not the promised land of hot young girls from Laos.

Khon Kaen.

Bus station. I drove by slowly and saw very little action on Thursday evening. The women that were there were all crack***** lookalikes. I think there was one semi-hot one but I'm pretty sure it was a ladyboy. Maybe it is because I drove around that I wasn't approached by pimps that would show me more? IMO, avoid.

Little Soi behind Pullman Hotel. I never actually saw a sign for this Soi but prior reports say it is Song Suphanee. I just circled behind Pullman until I found it. There are 6 little brothels right next to each other. I drove by several times and eventually stopped to take a closer look at a little after 2am (probably too late.) Aside from one or two 'maybes', they were all ugly and old. I did not partake.

Violin Kareoke. I went there around 1130pm. Got a line up of about 8 girls. 2 were decent and actually not bad! One had really messed up teeth. Very bad. So I chose the other one. This was my first karaoke experience. She sang as I groped her a little and she would stop me if I went too far. There is much more groping permitted in Go-gos in my experience. This was pretty tame. I eventually asked if I can take her to my hotel. Nope! Not available, but the guy insisted he can get me another girl. At this point it is approaching 2am. I guess he calls some girls and gets no answers and I go home alone. BTW, 2 hours, I had 1 beer and 1 soda water, the girl had 4-5 lady drinks, came to just shy of 2, 000 baht. Semi-interesting for a first timer like me but definitely not worth it.

General Lessons:

In traveling various smaller cities of Thailand, I think there are two things to remember.

First, get there early. You really can not be too early if you want first pickings. This really hurts me because I'm a night owl and it also takes me a little nerve to take initiative and actually go to these places. For example, the beer bars in Chiang Mai are 85% uglies or low-average girls at 7pm. At 10pm it is 95% uglies.

Second, I am traveling by vehicle but finding places sometimes takes time, circling, and re-researching, etc. Commission be damned. I think having a tuk-tuk driver take you on a loop of places is possibly the best strategy for people who are new in a city. If you don't like selection at one place they can just hurry up to the next place and you are not wasting your time in order to save $10-15. I will start doing this from now on.

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Goyave
01-29-10, 09:42
... I read about Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 and decided to check it out. I drove by probably a half dozen times at different times of day and I may have seen 1-3 decent looking girls. The vast majority is old and ugly...You're right, alas. Quality (in the looks department) of the girls has gone severely downhill in this area. You might find better looking girls in the soi that is located just behind the Nong Khai Grand Hotel, and a lot better, on soi Suk Pracha (at a pick-up joint that is open only when the night has fallen). Prices are higher too (in the 500-700 baht range for a farang, depending on the place and not including the room, while it's only 300 baht at Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 or similar places on Meechai Road, room included).

Anyway, Soi Sow Fai Deng at 300 baht for a ST session, or Adunyadet Soi 2 at 400 baht (for a farang) in Udon Thani are better value (for instance) and the girls here are usually younger and more attractive than in the brothels of Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2 in Nong Khai nowadays.

Rocksoff
01-30-10, 08:36
I never actually saw a sign for this Soi but prior reports say it is Song Suphanee.You probably won't find a sign like that. "Song Suphanee" means *****house.

Opebo
01-30-10, 20:02
You're right. For me, the Farang orientated scene in Udon Thani is not really interesting (girls are usually older, less attractive and more expensive than at the Thai-orientated places).For sure more expensive, but there are actually nowadays quite a few teenaged cuties around the bars. It is really worth a look. But like all good things, go quickly, as in case the government changes back to the bad side it will all be worse again soon.

Dcpublius, I enjoyed your report about Nong Khai and Khon Kaen, but I must say you're a bit pickier than I. I think for the very picky man the Cleo Kareoke in Pullman hotel is really the place to go. I was in there the other night, and while it is true not every girl is a knockout, quite a few are, and the majority are really very lovely. The price there should be 2,000 baht short time, just like Violin.

Regarding your girl's refusal at Violin, I have noticed that the girls seem to be free to be barfined before 11:00 or 11:30 PM, but are not allowed to leave if they stay on later than that. In fact I've been in there at 3:30-4:00 in the morning, so it seems to be open very (even illegally) late, but the line-up which stays on very late seems to be 'trapped' or committed to staying all night.

Cleo on the other hand seems to close promptly at one AM and the girls are all simply available from 9:00 PM to 1:00. In any case I'll bet the girl you partied with in the kareoke room was available to you to take to your hotel at some time and under some circumstances, just not then and there.

Lastly regarding going early - its not always the case that this is beneficial. At brothel sois later is just as good as earlier (I usually go as late as 1-3 AM), and at the bus station no girl is there before nine PM, most not arriving till ten. At Cleos the prime time is 10:00 PM to say 11:30 PM. I would recommend getting out of your car on the brothel sois next time and strolling around.. though it is wise not to walk around the bus station scene.

HotShaneHot
01-31-10, 01:38
The Jungle Bar

Is in Nong Khai City.

I was ther for New Year's Eve the girls are all attractive and are less expensive then Udon Thani.

Mart Cham
01-31-10, 02:13
The Jungle Bar

Is in Nong Khai City.

I was ther for New Year's Eve the girls are all attractive and are less expensive then Udon Thani.

Would you mind elaborating a bit?
What kind of bar? Where exactly?

HotShaneHot
01-31-10, 02:59
Would you mind elaborating a bit?

What kind of bar? Where exactly?From the market in the city go to the right along the river about 2km's or near the end of road when you see beer belly billy's it is two shop's back if you get a map you will see beer belly billy's on it.

Ther is about 6 or more girls in ther. I think about 300 b/f 500 s/t 1000 L/t

Bumholes1
01-31-10, 22:12
[QUOTE=Opebo]
Lastly regarding going early - its not always the case that this is beneficial. At brothel sois later is just as good as earlier /QUOTE]

One does tend to get "sloppy seconds" when going later!

Mart Cham
02-01-10, 03:45
From the market in the city go to the right along the river about 2km's or near the end of road when you see beer belly billy's it is two shop's back if you get a map you will see beer belly billy's on it.

Ther is about 6 or more girls in ther. I think about 300 b/f 500 s/t 1000 L/t

OK thanks but with only 6+ girls available it's also likely that nobody takes my fancy. Besides, the rates you mention are by no means different from standard Udon rates for bargirls. Anyway I will have a look at the place.

Opebo
02-01-10, 12:17
Lastly regarding going early - its not always the case that this is beneficial. At brothel sois later is just as good as earlier

One does tend to get "sloppy seconds" when going later!

That doesn't bother me one little bit. Share it - it won't wear out!

Mua Tur
02-07-10, 13:55
Itís better to say that the taxi driver pulled me out with my baggage over the center fence of the road at top floor of Suvarnabhumi airport. When we arrived at Mochit Bus Terminal it was around 6.0 p.m. and the meter shows 270bht to pay (It was not express way and I choose the normal way). Opebo told me to find ďChang TourĒ, they have specious bus and good service. When I asked the said tour service none of at the information desk got my spell. OK itís my fault. I wrote on a piece of paper the ďChang TourĒ oh yeah they got very straight it is ďChan TowerĒ some thing like that. Ok Ok Iíl be able to find out the counter no.113.

The ladies in the counter was warm and seen very kind to me even I found very difficult to communicate with them with my English. I told the lady pls confirm my ticket on arriving at 8.0 a.m on the next day. It was 6.0 p.m. and I canít make myself more stupid to arrive at Udon in the middle of night after traveling a long 8hrs. Since, it was my first visit for the place. Finally the lady confirmed my ticket and advises me to appear at 11.00 p.m. so she personally can escort me on board at terminal no. 19 & 21.

I canít blame to anybody for my stupidity to choose bus service in place of air (while it was known that there were air service also available for Udon). I started strolling around the terminal to kill a long 5hrs. I know the expats like Opebo or others what supposed to do to kill the time. They will arrive any joint for hobbyist nearby the terminal and will be capable to arrive within the right time. But I was not able to do anything like that only just find there were some bus service also available for Patt from Mochit also.

ContdÖ

Simian
02-07-10, 17:51
I canít blame to anybody for my stupidity to choose bus service in place of air (while it was known that there were air service also available for Udon). I started strolling around the terminal to kill a long 5hrs. I know the expats like Opebo or others what supposed to do to kill the time. They will arrive any joint for hobbyist nearby the terminal and will be capable to arrive within the right time. But I was not able to do anything like that only just find there were some bus service also available for Patt from Mochit also.

ContdÖ
Not only did you not take the flying option, usually for less than 2,000 one way, you also did not take the other option which was the overnight train. Here you take the train (which I think leaves BKK at about 8pm) ensuring that you get 1st class for about 1,300baht one way. This gives you a separate 2 bunk compartment - frequently you will have the compartment to yourself. You can also check out the bar on the train where you can smoke (windows are open) and drink large bottles of Singha for about 120baht a go. Bar usually closes at about 10.30pm. Train arrives in Udon Thani at about 7.30am or so, if memory serves me right.

Opebo
02-07-10, 22:01
Yes Simian has a good point about the sleeper train, though the second class (air or non-air) is perfectly adequate at just over (for air) and just under (for non-air) half the price of the first class compartment. But keep in mind that for this you need to book a little in advance, perhaps 3-4 days.

My advices to Mua Tur were based on the idea that he was on a budget and didn't have time to make reservations ahead and wait in Bangkok. Chan Tour is the way to go to Udon in those circumstances.

However I would like to dispute the notion that it is preferable to wait in the bus station for a bus that will arrive in the early morning. Far better to get on the bus immediately - even if you arrive in the middle of the night, a hotel room is only 300-400 baht and then you can sleep comfortably for a few hours before lunch. It never makes sense to wait in the bus station if a hotel could possibly await at the end of journey.

Mart Cham
02-08-10, 09:37
Yes Simian has a good point about the sleeper train, though the second class (air or non-air) is perfectly adequate at just over (for air) and just under (for non-air) half the price of the first class compartment. But keep in mind that for this you need to book a little in advance, perhaps 3-4 days.
I think 2nd class is much better value than 1st class too. Paid 490 bahts last time for fan sleeper in 2nd class from Udon to BKK which I booked the same day as departure. My advice: never ever book aircon sleeper, done it a few times in the past, feckin freezing.
I don't remember the price in 1st class but I'd rather fly to Udon than buy a 1st class ticket. With a few days advance, flight bookings are not necessarily more expensive than 1st class train tickets.



However I would like to dispute the notion that it is preferable to wait in the bus station for a bus that will arrive in the early morning. Far better to get on the bus immediately - even if you arrive in the middle of the night, a hotel room is only 300-400 baht and then you can sleep comfortably for a few hours before lunch. It never makes sense to wait in the bus station if a hotel could possibly await at the end of journey.
Completely agree. Especially for places like Udon where finding a cheap and decent hotel is not an issue at all, even in the middle of the night. I think this is true for almost all cities and towns in Thailand by the way.

Mua Tur
02-08-10, 13:51
Yes Simian has a good point about the sleeper train, though the second class (air or non-air) is perfectly adequate at just over (for air) and just under (for non-air) half the price of the first class compartment. But keep in mind that for this you need to book a little in advance, perhaps 3-4 days.

My advices to Mua Tur were based on the idea that he was on a budget and didn't have time to make reservations ahead and wait in Bangkok. Chan Tour is the way to go to Udon in those circumstances.

Yeah U did the right thing what I sked for and worked nicely. Thnx for that.


However I would like to dispute the notion that it is preferable to wait in the bus station for a bus that will arrive in the early morning. Far better to get on the bus immediately - even if you arrive in the middle of the night, a hotel room is only 300-400 baht and then you can sleep comfortably for a few hours before lunch. It never makes sense to wait in the bus station if a hotel could possibly await at the end of journey.

May be u r right for those who r already experienced about Udon. Remember this was my first visit guided by only the info provided by u and the forum. Now I'm sure I'l not harm myself and will be offer myself a smooth journy.

Mua Tur
02-08-10, 14:59
From the bus stop The Tuk Tuk carried me to Top Mansion for 40 bht. And it was within few minuets. Later I realized within the action zone the standard tuk tuk price is this. But u can pull it down for 30bht if u r a bit bargainer. It was 9.30a.m and wow what a welcome scene was waiting for me. There were two guys with two ladies departing the hotel. May be they were traveling around with their car likely with a single lady and were leaving the other one. She was dark and quite stunning with a bit aged. After leaving the guys once I thought to call the lady and may offer her for the rest of the day. But the hotel was full house and there were no room to spare for me. Moreover the front desk is not sure after 12.00p.m. any availability is there or not.

What Iív to do now? Still I donít hv any room and if the lady agreed with my offer Iív to carry two heavy baggages until my room to be booked. Since Iím first traveler and I canít take any chances hunting around for room until 12.0p.m. with two baggage. So Iív to leave one and decided let the lady go.

Again Tuk Tuk and arrived at Ruy Suk Mension. Same story no room available but there are chances if I wait up to 12.00p.m. may be there are a room will be available for me. I decided to wait because it was been advised by Opebo and later it found very effective for my mongering aspects.

Finally I entered in my room after 12.00p.m in Ruy Suk Mension at Adunyaded rd for 350bht a night. Surprisingly I was not tired enough and decided to roam around in day time before the evening start. Arrived in reception and found Mr. Joe very supportive and donít feel bother to serve info. He supplied a map and marked by a pen the action zone (for evening), Soi 2 and Soi 7. He informed now Iíl not be able to find any luck and Iív to wait for couple of hours.

OK whatever it is, I need to see the zone(s) and will be happy enough to be more familiar with the places in day time.

ContdÖ.

Mua Tur
02-11-10, 06:17
Finding Soi Fang Dong is found difficult to other expats. So I deleted the street from my visit list. Soi 7 is immediate after the Ruy Suk Mansion. Itís a long diagonal road and I enter with expecting some sign should assure me about the action. But Alas! I found completely deserted the place. No sign no indication no affirmation what it may offer. Some aged guys sitting in plastic chairs and throwing weird looks to me, thatís all. No body interested to show anything why a farang walking all along the road and what he looks for.

OK letís try for Soi 2. Joe told me u will not find any name plate but u will be able to find by pointing the food shops on entrance of the road. Itís also deserted right now. Joe u r right, itís too early for action. Returned back to hotel, saying hello to other guys in lounge and ordered my lunch to Joeís kitchen. A lady came and kissed on the palm of a guy seated on the lounge, they talked and disappeared behind the bar. OK I canít handle it, better try for a nap in my room, but failed to get in. On the stair case a guy with a lady landed from their motobyke. Bang bang bang a big hit struck in my head, what the hell Iím doing here. Left, right, Ups and down everybody in their room with ladies and we know what they are doing behind the closed door. And what Iím doing here? Hunting around road to road under the hot sun, for what?

There were a lady working in the hotel seems eager to provide service if I ask for that. But Iív a bitter experience in Tashkant(Uzbekistan). Inviting a hotel girl in my room on my first day. Later whenever I brought lady from outside I got to mange jealous attitude from the hotel girl. So I skipped the hotel option for my last deserted day in Udon. I didnít enter in the room and return back desperately to Soi 2 (Soi 7 is hopeless).

On my 2nd round I got my luck here. Skipped the first group because at a glance I found nothing was charmed to me. There were a tout standing beside the 2nd group of 2/3 ladies. The only one tiny and skinny fitted in her pant showing interest to me. I asked the pimp is there no ladies more? He lead me to his hut made of wood plunk, closer roof, dark and sheet hole type. But I didnít find anything better than the skinny one. It was not the thing normally I used for but right now I want a lady in my room to make the time fruitful as I have. The tout asked 500bht for in house use. Need less to say my scary feelings denied using their room. I offered 400bht in my hotel room. The tout finally agreed and we three moved to our hotel using his motobyke.

Before the evening I picked two more girls from the same street, using the same motobyke but never paid any for the transportation. But paid 500bht each time. There are some reasons to bringing girls in my room. First I didnít like their hut and second I have the opportunity to wash the girl thoroughly. May be I can get girls less than Iív paid off, if I agreed to use their place. But I will loose the cleaning ness, what was important for me. Under aged girl was never been listed in my fancy and the pimp several time insisted to pick one of them. I denied every time, who is going to do dirty business with the police!

I hv also visited Soi 7 for the 2nd and last round. This time a guy called me to enter his shop. Ladies? I say yes. He jumped on his bike with me and we both started to explore the houses he knows. First house we entered there were two girls available, one was looks Icy and not interested on me. The 2nd one was bubbly but has fat in her bally making off to me. We visited couple of empty houses and finally we agreed mongering in this street is completely dead now.

ContdÖ.

Opebo
02-11-10, 22:50
Finding Soi Fang Dong is found difficult to other expats..

'Fie Dang', not Fang Dong. Fie pronounced like 'pie', and 'Dang' like 'dang it' in an old Western.

Mart Cham
02-12-10, 15:37
'Fie Dang', not Fang Dong. Fie pronounced like 'pie', and 'Dang' like 'dang it' in an old Western.
Soi Fang Dong ( ซอยแฝงดง ) ain't easy to find but once you've found the forest you've gone too far.

Mua Tur
02-12-10, 16:17
The owner of Day & Night bar demands in some places that, sexiest girls for Udon they have. I have strolled all along the road from Top Mansion to the Night Market at Prajak Road. Seems they are quite right with their demand. On my first entry in this place a wild girl rushed and crossed me was caught my eyes. But Iíd taken already three girls before the evening starts, so I leave her to check around more.

While strolling around the bars nothing was fancy to me. Loads of avg looking girls in all the bars and I tried hard to book someone but failed to bring any one on my test. As a result couple of beer glasses made me at the edge of drunken and derived me couple of glasses to leave half. Retuned back to Day & Night to find the girl at first was on my eyes. Itís 10.0p.m. and Iím a fool for looking again such an attractive girl should be remain for me on this time. While sipping my glass in a bar middle of left raw (forget the name) seen a girl sitting with two more guys caught my fancy. Awaiting for long time but failed to find the girl un-booked any more and decided to visit again the bars beside the alley of Night Market. Here ďMission Finding NimoĒ completed surprisingly. The girl was calling another guy and ignored by him. Right after that she smelled out of a dog with wet mouth full of salvia, thatís me. She was looking straight but not to me with a keen attention when I will step inside the bar and I did. The girl (see the pic-age21) flew me to the bar counter and start talking, surprisingly a fluent English, even I got no chances to open my mouth. I canít kiss her to shut her mouth, isnít it we are meeting first time? Instead of that I ordered a San Miguel for her. And opened a big smile as I didnít have from pretty long time.

We drank and talked and my busy palm brushing continuously her revealed round leg. Once she asked me hw old r u? I said itís 50ish, I whispered in her year, still I can fuÖShe yelled out me too, I want ur.. she knocked on the middle of my two leg. O.K. I had enough, itís time to barfine. How much? itís 300bht and 1500bht(LT) for the girl, I agreed, it was 11.30p.m. She put a gogo dark glass on her eyes (She has implanted contact lance) and ordered me to take off my ass. May I buy some food from the Night Market, I asked her. She was so impatience and unrest on her walking for the wasting of time and me also was keen to enter in my room as early as possible. In the room what I never do, made a deep and hard kiss on her unwashed lips for a long time.

Without sounding any word I entered in bathroom and she followed me speechless for wash. I revealed her clothes stopping eyes to her young nipples straight to me and thrown all of them in the room. No towels no shyness just resting her hands on my shoulder and allowed me for a detail wash on her except the eye part of the face. Again a deep kiss on her washed spread lips, a hard suck on her nipples after wash. I took her on my hand and she leaned on my chest closing her eyes, just revealing my happiness that the girl is going make my Journey to Udon unexpectedly.

When I entered in her I feel a roaring grinding, rounding and mounting on me bursting in my head wild, wild and wild. I forget to change positions just ones I pulled her on the edge of the bed and continued what we were doing before.

Iív no complain why I did only once on that night. The truth is we were very tired and got sleep instantly for 8.0a.m. of the next day. A phone call arrived from BKK and it made a full stop for my 24hrs Udon Trip and I ran out for bus for BKK.

Mua Tur
02-16-10, 10:11
Iív seen a debate on a comment of Opebo ďStick Pattay rather then UdonĒ for mongering. There were many comments on this issue from many members including Goyave. On my short visit my own conception has been grown about the city. I think relativity in Patt and Udon is not an issue at all. I do agree with some members that if somebody has something to do other than mongering in that region or passing that region may be Udon is the best place for the mongers.

Patt got a permanent existence as one of the top places for mongering in the world. Girls from different nationalities, arriving here for business. Moreover the place is nearer to BKK. Even as a holiday destination peoples from all sector can arrive here within 1.5hrs only.

On the other hand Udon is not a holiday destination at all. I think for the girls the city fully depends on trafficking from the neighboring countries. On my Udon tour Iív meet 5 girls. Two says they are from Laos, two no reply (does Viet?) one says she is half Thai half Lao. There are many reasons to believe that the supply of girls is completely seasonal. For this reason I found Soi 7 is completely empty. The volume of migration making a very good impact on Udon mongering scenes. All the girls are not for Brothels, some are eligible for bar scenes also. So I can say Udon is very much unpredictable regarding qualities, quantities and there prices. When the city got good supply the price goes down and we can get versatile qualities also, but itís for a time being period only. Because of, may be itís a backup training city for the larger market in Thailand.

It will be wise to visit the city for mongering after having invitation from some one residing in Udon, who is experiencing the season with full moon.

Goyave
02-16-10, 14:11
I’v seen a debate on a comment of Opebo “Stick Pattay rather then Udon” for mongering. There were many comments on this issue from many members including Goyave.
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I think for the girls the city fully depends on trafficking from the neighboring countries...

I don't think that there's a debate here and I don't really disagree with Opebo, as Udon Thani is certainly not a paradise for every monger.

Pattaya is the place to go if you are a newbie or if you want to get laid with minimum hassles at a reasonable price. The P4P scene is very accessible and the atmosphere is usually friendly and relaxed. Actually, it's so easy there that you don't have to fetch a provider, it's the providers who will hunt you (well, mostly). The difficult thing is to try to sleep alone when you stay in this town, even if you don't know shit about Thailand and Thai language.

Bangkok is another great destination for newbies and people who want to get laid easily. Prices are higher than in Pattaya on average and the whole town is not a giant wh0rehouse, but its red districts are well-known and very easy to find.

Other tourist destinations (Phuket, Chiang Mai, Koh Samui, etc.) usually have a Farang-orientated P4P scene, more or less interesting, but where most girls can speak at least some basic English and are already accustomed to the foreigners' needs and requests.

In Udon Thani (and in the Isan region), the Farang-orientated P4P scene is not very interesting (IMHO). If you really want to enjoy the local scene, it's almost mandatory to speak some Thai language. And you have to know where the locals go, because for the most part, protitution is not visible here. Even the local freelancers usually dress themselves very conservatively (just like everybody else actually).

But the P4P girls available in Isan (especially in the local brothels) are usually younger and a lot more attractive (on average) than in Pattaya, Bangkok, and other tourist destinations. To find the same quality in looks elsewhere in Thailand, a foreigner has to pay a lot more money than in Isan.

Alas, most of the time, the quality of service is not on par with what is proposed in Pattaya (and other tourist destinations). The local girls are not very experienced, at least, they are usually not used to service foreign customers. More often than not, they won't allow anything else than a covered fuck, missionary style (even doggy or cow girl positions are not offered by certain providers). It requires some time and investigation to find a decent provider if you favor performance over looks, or some time and patience to teach and train a not very experienced local girl. Some of them are willing to learn and will try new things with a reasonable incentive.

That's why I believe that the Isan scene (especially in Udon Thani) is not that bad, but it is certainly not for every monger.

About human trafficking, you might be surprised, but all the Lao and Khmer (in other parts of Isan) girls that I've met so far in the local brothels went there voluntarily. Ok, maybe they are helping their family in debt to reimburse a loan, but they are free to leave and come back to their country when they want. I don't say that there is no human trafficking, but according to my own experience, it's not as widespread as many people think.

I have on several occasions taken different girls from local brothels to go in a place of my choice instead of doing the deed on premises and that was always possible. They usually have their passport with them when they go out of their working place. I also have several phone numbers of girls who used to work in a brothel in Northeastern Thailand that are now back in their country and who would like me to contact them when I am near their home main city. It's not exactly what would do a victim of human trafficking, I suppose.

Opebo
02-16-10, 17:09
I've found the bar scene in Udon Thani - particularly the quality and age of girls - to be enormously improved lately, though its still not really my preference. That said, this scene also much much smaller than Pattaya.

Oldian
02-16-10, 21:54
I've found the bar scene in Udon Thani. Particularly the quality and age of girls. To be enormously improved lately, though its still not really my preference. That said, this scene also much much smaller than Pattaya.there really isn't anything to compare. Pattaya has x million girls, or it at least feels like it. But living in Bangkok, it does little for me, as every time I am there I am constantly struck by the ratio of not in any way close to stunning girls to those who are, and always way to the negative. Pattaya may have cheaper prices, but that said, as someone who lives here and speaks decent Thai, I don't pay more than 1000 baht in Bangkok and have a very steady stream of excellent talent. Whereas for me, Udon is a breath of fresh air. The farang bars are not anything special, there aren't many girls, and not many stunners. But the Lao brothels are another story completely. There are certain houses where in my book, any of the ladies in there would be pulling 3-5000 baht a shot in Taniya Plaza or Rainbow or Baccara, yet in Udon they are available for 4-600 a go, with no bar fines, no drinks, no hassles. I assume if one lived in Udon, the mileage might get even better.

At any rate, Udon is a great spot to go spend a bit of time in, people are nice, food is good, hotels can be great value, and it makes for a very nice change from the overrun scene one often can find in Pattaya, Bangkok, or Phuket.

Mua Tur
02-17-10, 06:48
I don't think that there's a debate here and I don't really disagree with Opebo, as Udon Thani is certainly not a paradise for every monger.

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About human trafficking, you might be surprised, but all the Lao and Khmer (in other parts of Isan) girls that I've met so far in the local brothels went there voluntarily. Ok, maybe they are helping their family in debt to reimburse a loan, but they are free to leave and come back to their country when they want. I don't say that there is no human trafficking, but according to my own experience, it's not as widespread as many people think.

I have on several occasions taken different girls from local brothels to go in a place of my choice instead of doing the deed on premises and that was always possible. They usually have their passport with them when they go out of their working place. I also have several phone numbers of girls who used to work in a brothel in Northeastern Thailand that are now back in their country and who would like me to contact them when I am near their home main city. It's not exactly what would do a victim of human trafficking, I suppose.

It's a pleasure to hear that the girls r coming vouluntarily and most of them r legal.

Spanish Main
02-17-10, 10:52
But the Lao brothels are another story completely. There are certain houses where in my book, any of the ladies in there would be pulling 3-5000 baht a shot in Taniya Plaza or Rainbow or Baccara, yet in Udon they are available for 4-600 a go, with no bar fines, no drinks, no hassles. I assume if one lived in Udon, the mileage might get even better.

At any rate, Udon is a great spot to go spend a bit of time in, people are nice, food is good, hotels can be great value, and it makes for a very nice change from the overrun scene one often can find in Pattaya, Bangkok, or Phuket.


I will be there next month.Can you give me a recommendation of a good value, guest friendly hotel and how I can find the Lao brothels, please.

Ploughman
02-18-10, 08:24
Thanks to all who posted info about Udon. Just spent a couple of days there as a sidetrip via Air Asia. Mongering wasn't the primary purpose, but nights were pretty much free, so I did some research based on previous postings. Noted places on Adulayet sois 2 & 7 and Soi Sai Faw Deng were still operating...look for barely opened doors and pink lighting inside. Or people eager to show you inside. They were starting at B400 for farangs, but could be talked down to B300 in latter case. Selection sometimes limited; 5+ would be a lot, and 1 or none not uncommon.

Further up the scale, the Banyan on Adulayet soi 7 wants B800 ST for biked-in girls (probably Lao) at their taxi rooms, even if you show up on foot without a tuk-tuk. B100 for room, 700 for lady, they said. Nicer rooms and more farang-oriented, though still a bit downscale. Maybe Thai people or those speaking more Thai than I do can get cheaper price.

Day & Night plaza still fine for a drink, though it looked like there were as many punters as girls on the 2 nights I went. The better lookers also might have semi-regular customers.

To pick up a bit on what others are saying, I think Udon Thani has a real potential niche. Bangkok is already basically ruined on budget mongering. Pattaya pricing is better, but the place is turning into a real monster with traffic and development, and there's still lots of "dumb" money from first-timers putting pressure on pricing (not to mention the occasional Navy shore leave). Something like 1 in 3 people who come to Thailand visit Pattaya on their trip.

Udon offers elbow room, few tourists and a good climate for maybe 3-4 months a year that roughly coincides with high season elsewhere. Costs are lower and there's just enough to do to stave off the terminal boredom found in other burgs.

So I think there's a case to be made for it becoming an alternative seasonal or even year-round base for those in the know.

Oldian
02-19-10, 20:50
I will be there next month.Can you give me a recommendation of a good value, guest friendly hotel and how I can find the Lao brothels, please.Top Mansion is good value at 370 baht a night, they are on the road with Day and Night and all the farang bars. Basically every hotel there is guest friendly. Lao brothels can be found on Adulyadej Road, soi 2, soi 7. Avoid overpaying.

Amjeck
02-20-10, 11:26
Lao brothels can be found on Adulyadej Road, soi 2, soi 7. Avoid overpaying.
What is overpaying?

soi 7 asks 500-700 (depending on house)

soi 2 asks 400

soi fai dang 300

Are these prices right?

Opebo
02-20-10, 21:06
Did Top Mansion raise their prices? It was 350 till a few weeks ago.

The prices are as Amjeck lists, though in (actually just off) Soi 2 there is a higher end house which is 600. Slightly better looking girls, and better rooms - many rooms even have air-con and I've been told a few have hot water. It always seems to have a lot of customers.

Rtpman
02-22-10, 04:54
Did Top Mansion raise their prices? It was 350 till a few weeks ago.
.

I was quoted 370 I believe. I'll be there next month.

Spanish Main
02-22-10, 09:56
Does anybody know anything about Koh Chang?

Fon Tok
02-22-10, 10:28
Thanks to all who posted info about Udon. Just spent a couple of days there as a sidetrip via Air Asia. Mongering wasn't the primary purpose, but nights were pretty much free, so I did some research based on previous postings...So I think there's a case to be made for it becoming an alternative seasonal or even year-round base for those in the know.Great report full of useful information. I think I might venture up that way soon!

Betong
02-22-10, 14:01
Does anybody know anything about Koh Chang?I know it's not in Isaan!

You'll find some reports in the "Other Areas" section.

Fifty Fifty
02-23-10, 13:34
I will be there next month.Can you give me a recommendation of a good value, guest friendly hotel and how I can find the Lao brothels, please.
Best place I stayd in Udon was Irish Clock Pub, big clean room, everything you need inc free WiFi. Has a seperate 'guest' entrance with your own key and is just 50 yrds up the road from D&N Plaza.
Paid 850 Thb a night inc 120 baht worth of the best full English in town.

Reviews on Tripadvisor say it all.

Enjoy, FF

Spanish Main
02-23-10, 17:10
Best place I stayd in Udon was Irish Clock Pub, big clean room, everything you need inc free WiFi. Has a seperate 'guest' entrance with your own key and is just 50 yrds up the road from D&N Plaza.
Paid 850 Thb a night inc 120 baht worth of the best full English in town.

Reviews on Tripadvisor say it all.

Enjoy, FF


I like the separate guest entrance.

Oldian
02-23-10, 18:38
What is overpaying?

soi 7 asks 500-700 (depending on house)

soi 2 asks 400

soi fai dang 300

Are these prices right?I haven't been to soi 7 in recent times, but other postings make it sound like that is a bit steep for there. Soi 2 and fai daeng are correct.

Oldian
02-23-10, 18:39
I was quoted 370 I believe. I'll be there next month.I just went to 370 a few weeks ago.

Still pretty great value given its location and amenities.

Opebo
02-23-10, 19:22
I just went to 370 a few weeks ago.

Still pretty great value given its location and amenities.

It was 310 when I first stayed there years ago. Not to mention that was at about 38 baht to the dollar.

Xdentx
02-25-10, 04:43
I will be checking in on this Friday. ANyone want to meet up....pm me.
First time to Udon Thani for me. thanks

Xdentx
02-26-10, 17:56
I made arrangements to meet a DIA lady in UT. She showed up a little late tonight with her girlfriend who drove her own car. Both ladies were attractive, personable, about 40 (24 years my junior) and apparently self sufficient women. They drove me to a local upscale Thai restaurant filled with locals and a 5 piece band. Total cost with drinks about 540 bhat or $17. Afterwards they drove me around a little and dropped me off at the Irish Clock. They're picking me up tomorrow at 10am to visit Nong Khai on the Mekong river. This was their idea and I like it a lot because I had read what a sweet little city NK is. We'll sightsee and have some food up there and return to UT in the afternoon or evening. The lady who owns the car seems more interested in me than my DIA correspondent. If she's the only one to show up tomorrow, I wont be surprised or disappointed.

After they dropped me off, I went across the street, paid a 300 bhat bar fine and had short time in my hotel with a nice little number for 700. I could get used to this routine. By the way, the city had a noticible military and police presence at certain points in the city in preparation for the Bangkok Court decision. Another report on tomorrow will follow.

Fifty Fifty
02-26-10, 18:12
I made arrangements to meet a DIA lady in UT. She showed up a little late tonight with her girlfriend who drove her own car. Both ladies were attractive, personable, about 40 (24 years my junior) and apparently self sufficient women. They drove me to a local upscale Thai restaurant filled with locals and a 5 piece band. Total cost with drinks about 540 bhat or $17. Afterwards they drove me around a little and dropped me off at the Irish Clock. They're picking me up tomorrow at 10am to visit Nong Khai on the Mekong river. This was their idea and I like it a lot because I had read what a sweet little city NK is. We'll sightsee and have some food up there and return to UT in the afternoon or evening. The lady who owns the car seems more interested in me than my DIA correspondent. If she's the only one to show up tomorrow, I wont be surprised or disappointed.

After they dropped me off, I went across the street, paid a 300 bhat bar fine and had short time in my hotel with a nice little number for 700. I could get used to this routine. By the way, the city had a noticible military and police presence at certain points in the city in preparation for the Bangkok Court decision. Another report on tomorrow will follow.
Udon is a great, if a little laid back place. There is plenty of action if you know where to go. Enjoy the scenic drive and NK, the river is interesting and you must do the lunch of Vietnemese Rolls at Duangs Restaurant on the bank.
Enjoy the ladies and the fun. Irish Clock my choice too, hope to get back up there next month.
Cheers, FF

Xdentx
02-28-10, 09:33
The two ladies and a 9 yr. old son picked me up as promised promptly at 10am for our trip to Nong Khai. The vibe was nice...an adventure for the full day was in front of me. The kid was fun and we practiced English on the way up. Had a nice look around the river area in the market, ate a good lunch on a floating restaurant on the Mekong River, and generally had a very mellow pleasant time of it. Lots of picture taking. On the way home we stopped at a place where there were lots of old statues...quite large and elaborate. I forget the name of the place. Gas costs 500, lunch 700, incidentals about 300. Really no problem for me. Well worth the expense to not be wandering around UT on foot with no clue what to do with my time.

Got back to Irish Clock around 4:30 and begged off a group dinner that night. I was equally attracted to both ladies and wanted some one-on-one time with either one of them. How to do? They suggested we could tour the nearby world heritage archeological site on Sunday. They also offered to drive me to Nong Khai on Monday for my transfer to Laos.

Had a so-so oily massage after they left and before dinner near the Irish Clock. The lady was eager to provide bj, but I wanted to save my ammo for later in the evening. Let her practice a little on me and she gave an assisted shower afterwards...350 bhat. bbbj seem to be no problem in this area so far.

Finally texted my DIA friend that I would like to see her that night for dancing somewhere...one on one time. She showed up at my place on a moto with her "sister"...an elderly unattractive lady and my hopes for the evening vanished. We went to a bar, ordered small amount of food and some drinks. By now my mood was beginning to sour. My DIA friend disappeared to make a call for a good 5 to 10 minutes while I paid for the food and drinks. I got up and left for home. Ran into DIA lady on the way out and explained I wasn't feeling well...needed to sleep...and no touring tomorrow. Frankly I was feeling pissed. She seemed surprised but I didn't stick around to talk.

Went back to the Irish Clock...put in time on my pictures...sent an email to the DIA's friend that my short evening with her friend did not go well and I was available. (Didn't have her phone number) LOL The DIA gal showed up at my room but I ignored her repeated knocks. She later texted me I was a good man..she was sorry...can we talk. No thanks. I phoned another DIA contact to set up something for Sunday evening. I will keep trying as I like the chase and can always take a bar girl as plan B.

Went out and found a lovely 26 y.o. bar lady. 300 to the house and 1000 to her for short time in my room. Assisted shower again. Nice bj and sex with her lingering on watching music videos on tv. Thinking of taking her to Laos, but communication is not good in English.

All in all I'm grateful for the day time experience...well worth the expense. The evening was a disapointment. I'll chalk it up to language and cultural differences and the fact that the DIA gal was ??? who knows.

In the morning my DIA gal texts she still wants to tour. I reply I'd like her friends phone number. LOL will see what happens now. hahaha
Hours later she gave me the number. However, I already have another prospect lined up to meet at 4. She driving in from 30 km outside UT.

to be continued.

Spanish Main
02-28-10, 12:46
All in all I'm grateful for the day time experience...well worth the expense. The evening was a disapointment. I'll chalk it up to language and cultural differences and the fact that the DIA gal was ??? who knows.

In the morning my DIA gal texts she still wants to tour. I reply I'd like her friends phone number. LOL will see what happens now. hahaha
Hours later she gave me the number. However, I already have another prospect lined up to meet at 4. She driving in from 30 km outside UT.

to be continued.

A great adventure - I am looking forward to the next instalment...

Amjeck
02-28-10, 16:07
I haven't been to soi 7 in recent times, but other postings make it sound like that is a bit steep for there. Soi 2 and fai daeng are correct.
Opebo confirms those prices are correct. Can we get some more feedback as to what prices are on soi 7?

Xdentx
02-28-10, 18:08
My next DIA lady showed up at the Irish Clock promptly at 4 as promised. This is a woman I first texted a good 2 months ago. Her original reply to me was very articulate, expressing a desire to know more about me before meeting. Unfortunately, all the rest of her mails were this: Hello!! I Miiss you. I wait to meet you and i want to meet you so much I will together with you Take care.

I quickly tired of trying to communicate, but she would periodically resend her notes. I'd had the forsight to get her number because she had sent family photos that showed a beautiful 36 yo woman.

She arrived carrying her Thai/English dictionary, nicely dressed, and very attractive indeed. Conversation was extremely difficult and I found myself wondering how to extracate myself from the situation. As she drank her orange juice and I my coke, I slowly learned over the first 30 minutes that she had taken a bus 30 km into Udon Thani from her farm and then a short tuktuk ride to the hotel. I cheered up when she told me the last bus out was at 7pm...about 90 minutes away by now. Still time to line up other companionship. I also explained I was leaving in the morning for Vientiane. Found myself wondering why a "serious" woman would entertain a 2-3 hour meeting with a stranger when the stranger would be disappearing the next day.

Anyway, long story short, we went to my room and in a very slow way managed to work up some chemistry. She was willing, but not particularly experienced or proactive, so I took the lead. When we finished, we discovered blood on the sheets and she appologized repeatedly...her period had come earlier than expected. Indeed she showed me her white panties, which were spotless. We showered individually and I took her back to the bus depot with perfect timing for the last bus out of town for the night.

For the life of me, I can't figure out why a woman would entertain a liason like this. I didn't offer money and I'm quite sure it wasn't expected. See my Chiang Mai post about what happens when you offer money to a non-pro. I did slip her 100 bhat for the bus (30 each way plus tuktuk). The whole affair left me feeling a little empty. Not sure who to be most sad for. At 64 my passion for these encounters is waining.

Next installment under the Vientiane section.

Opebo
02-28-10, 22:22
For the life of me, I can't figure out why a woman would entertain a liason like this. I didn't offer money and I'm quite sure it wasn't expected.

You have to remember, Xdentx, that a 36 year old woman has almost no access to sex in Thailand - Thai men would consider her very, very old, and not be interested at all. On top of this she lives in some very small town or village, where all eyes are upon her, so even if she could find a willing partner she could not get away with the affair without quite a bit of stigma.

She may have some hopes of some sort of reward with you down the road, but it is more likely that her behaviour just reflects the desperate loneliness and stultifying social environment of the typical middle aged Thai woman.

Spanish Main
02-28-10, 22:53
You have to remember, Xdentx, that a 36 year old woman has almost no access to sex in Thailand - Thai men would consider her very, very old, and not be interested at all. On top of this she lives in some very small town or village, where all eyes are upon her, so even if she could find a willing partner she could not get away with the affair without quite a bit of stigma.

She may have some hopes of some sort of reward with you down the road, but it is more likely that her behaviour just reflects the desperate loneliness and stultifying social environment of the typical middle aged Thai woman.


A single woman in a village in the UK or US or Spain or anywhere has the same problem.

Xdentx
03-01-10, 03:56
She may have some hopes of some sort of reward with you down the road, but it is more likely that her behaviour just reflects the desperate loneliness and stultifying social environment of the typical middle aged Thai woman.

Thanks for the comments. I suspect your perspective is right on.

Xdentx
03-02-10, 16:54
I made this trip yesterday after doing research and wanted to share details for anyone considering this route. Take a tuktuk to the north bus station in UT where the buses depart to Nong Khai. There's more than one bus station in UT, so tell the tuktuk driver your final destination. I caught the bus as it was pulling out and they put my 20 kg suitcase in the luggage compartment below. I was the only caucasion guy on the bus and it turned out to not be an express. Cost 45 bhat (payable on board no problem) and took 54 minutes to the Nong Khai bus station. I was happy.

Here it gets tricky. You have to catch a tuktuk from the bus station to the Thai immigration station at the start of the bridge (100 bhat and definitely too much). Your driver will want to hand you off to another company that furnishes transport and your visa combined for $60 US. He undoubtedly gets a nice comission if he pulls this off. Even though I told him no, he stopped at a strip mall where this organization sets up camp. I just laughed when they quoted $60 for their services.

When your tuktuk drops you off at the bridge you walk about 200 feet in a pedestrian lane to the Thai immigration. Give them your passport and they'll remove your Thai entry form. Line took 3 minutes. After passing through Thai immigration you fill out two forms for Laos immigration, give them a passport photo, and pay $35 US. Newer bills prefered, but change is given back if you give them $40. (Ignore the taxi touts that you encounter even before Laos boarder control). Then 3-4 minutes to pass through passport control where the Laos stamp your passport. Next a 2 minute wait for a 20 bhat bus ride across the bridge. Baggage no problem. Upon arrival on the Laos side, you'll have to hire a tuktuk (I paid 200 bhat) for transport to your Vientiane hotel(unless you can figure out the bus situation which would take longer but be cheaper.) My tuktuk driver took on and dropped off 6 passangers along the way, so specify if you expect express service. My driver also couldn't find my Lao Orchid Hotel...even with a phone number and street address. We spent a lot of time asking directions...he was clueless. Total elapsed time 3 hr 20 minutes. Now in the hotel and very happy to be here. Looks like a sweet city.

Mart Cham
03-02-10, 19:40
Upon arrival on the Laos side, you'll have to hire a tuktuk (I paid 200 bhat) for transport to your Vientiane hotel(unless you can figure out the bus situation which would take longer but be cheaper.)
The bus situation is very easy to figure out. Looking to your right when coming out of the Lao border checkpoint you can see 2-3 "minimarts"/noodle shops and in front of them a very recognizable bus stop. Never waited long for the bus. Fare is 20 bahts if I remember right and possibly much cheaper if you already have Lao kips.


Looks like a sweet city.
Sweet yes. Gets extremely boring very quickly though.

Betong
03-03-10, 02:19
Sweet yes. Gets extremely boring very quickly though.Vientiane used to have real character but I'd have to agree. Now it feels like the more boring sort of provincial Thai city, except with a lot more tourists. The best you can say for the place is that the Western food is great. But it's nothing special for our hobby.

Goyave
03-03-10, 06:13
Opebo confirms those prices are correct. Can we get some more feedback as to what prices are on soi 7?


It used to be 600 baht, then 700 baht, and recently, a friend of mine who went there alone was quoted 800 baht (room included). But he was a new customer in this area, so, regular and long-time customers might pay a bit less there. I haven't been there for more than one year, because I favor other places in Udon Thani (cheaper brothels from Soi Fai Deng or Adunyadej Soi 2, for instance). Granted, the ST rooms are a lot nicer in this area, but (IMHO), that's all, as the quality of the providers (looks and service) is not much better on average than in the cheaper brothels.

Goyave
03-03-10, 06:18
Vientiane used to have real character but I'd have to agree. Now it feels like the more boring sort of provincial Thai city, except with a lot more tourists. The best you can say for the place is that the Western food is great. But it's nothing special for our hobby.

And Lao beer is cheap. But almost everything (local food, accommodation, girls, etc.) is about (at least) 50% more expensive than in Northeastern Thailand, for a comparable quality. French food and wines are often a lot less expensive in Vientiane though.

Simian
03-03-10, 15:58
I made this trip yesterday after doing research and wanted to share details for anyone considering this route. Take a tuktuk to the north bus station in UT where the buses depart to Nong Khai. There's more than one bus station in UT, so tell the tuktuk driver your final destination. I caught the bus as it was pulling out and they put my 20 kg suitcase in the luggage compartment below. I was the only caucasion guy on the bus and it turned out to not be an express. Cost 45 bhat (payable on board no problem) and took 54 minutes to the Nong Khai bus station. I was happy.

Here it gets tricky. You have to catch a tuktuk from the bus station to the Thai immigration station at the start of the bridge (100 bhat and definitely too much). Your driver will want to hand you off to another company that furnishes transport and your visa combined for $60 US. He undoubtedly gets a nice comission if he pulls this off. Even though I told him no, he stopped at a strip mall where this organization sets up camp. I just laughed when they quoted $60 for their services.

When your tuktuk drops you off at the bridge you walk about 200 feet in a pedestrian lane to the Thai immigration. Give them your passport and they'll remove your Thai entry form. Line took 3 minutes. After passing through Thai immigration you fill out two forms for Laos immigration, give them a passport photo, and pay $35 US. Newer bills prefered, but change is given back if you give them $40. (Ignore the taxi touts that you encounter even before Laos boarder control). Then 3-4 minutes to pass through passport control where the Laos stamp your passport. Next a 2 minute wait for a 20 bhat bus ride across the bridge. Baggage no problem. Upon arrival on the Laos side, you'll have to hire a tuktuk (I paid 200 bhat) for transport to your Vientiane hotel(unless you can figure out the bus situation which would take longer but be cheaper.) My tuktuk driver took on and dropped off 6 passangers along the way, so specify if you expect express service. My driver also couldn't find my Lao Orchid Hotel...even with a phone number and street address. We spent a lot of time asking directions...he was clueless. Total elapsed time 3 hr 20 minutes. Now in the hotel and very happy to be here. Looks like a sweet city.
Why not make it easy on yourself - take the international bus from the bus station in Udon Thani direct to the Morning Market bus station in Vientiane. And it goes the other direction too. The bus stops at the Thai side of the bridge and waits for you to process your exit and waits again at the Lao side for you to deal with immigration issues. THen you head for Vientiane.

This bus leaves Udon about 4 or 5 times a day and is a few hundred baht one way.

Xdentx
03-03-10, 20:48
I had read that you needed your Laos visa prior to taking the bus from Udon Thani to Vientiane. If that's not necessary, then that would be the method of choice. I will take that bus from Vientiane back to Udon Thani today for sure.

Thanks

Xdentx
03-04-10, 20:05
I flew into Udon Thani on a small turbo prop plane operated by Nok Air. At the airport they bus you out to the plane in 9 passenger Toyota vans. It's the type of plane that seats 2 on one side and 1 on the other. They asked for a volunteer for the jump seat in the cockpit, but I was too slow to get my hand up. That would have been interesting to fly in the cockpit. Pilots seemed British or Aussies.

Checked into the Irish Clock and thought the set up looked OK. A lot of British congregate here. The place serves both English and Thai food and they do a booming dinner business. I tried a couple of Thai dishes and they were just OK. The clientel is 90% white foreign guys. I never saw a free lancer in the place during my 3 nights there. I certainly wouldn't consider it a pick up place and there are no bar girls to take out.

My room was on the first floor and there is no lift. They have 2 floors of accommodations above the bar. Was not noisy at night. Air con is fine, bed good. The owner showed me to my room and set up my computer connection on the spot which I appreciated. It turned out to be a poor internet connection. There were tiny ants all over my laptop after the first hour of use. I didn't notice any in the bed fortunately. They do have a good laundry service. The location is surrounded by bars with a lack of interesting talent. It certainly doesn't compare to the row of bars in Chiang Mai near the Raming Lodge. I did bring one lady home for st. Bar fine was 400 and her fee was 700. BBBJ no problem. Another night and bar it was 300 bar fine and 1000 short time.

I did pay a tuktuk to take me around to soi 2 and 7 late one night, but the area looked too sketchy for my tastes and I didn't stick around long. The girls looked young as well. One mammasan drug me into her shack and when someone closed the door behind us, I got way too nervous. LOL

By the way, total tab at Irish Clock including laundry was 2800 bhat. Cheaper than what I'm used to paying.

Mart Cham
03-04-10, 21:26
I had read that you needed your Laos visa prior to taking the bus from Udon Thani to Vientiane. If that's not necessary, then that would be the method of choice. I will take that bus from Vientiane back to Udon Thani today for sure.

Thanks

You are right, the Lao visa is needed to take this bus and that's why it is not an option unless you got your visa in BKK.
It's a great option for the return trip though.
Schedule of international bus to Udon from Vientiane attached.

Mart Cham
03-04-10, 21:34
And Lao beer is cheap. But almost everything (local food, accommodation, girls, etc.) is about (at least) 50% more expensive than in Northeastern Thailand, for a comparable quality. French food and wines are often a lot less expensive in Vientiane though.

Beer is great and decently priced, agreed.

French wine is a lot less expensive than in Thailand, agreed.

French food is not cheaper than in Pattaya for example and I do not find it is worth the price charged. The "French-Vietnamese" baguette-sandwiches are great though...

Xdentx
03-05-10, 03:17
I took the bus from the morning market in Vientiane to Udon Thani as others have recommended. People at the bus station were very helpful in pointing out the ticket office and I enjoyed chatting with some English students while waiting for my bus. It is now up to 90 bhat and worth every bhat. Great convienent way to get to Udon Thani. The bus is permanently marked on the side with the Udon Thani-Vientiane logo so it's easy to be sure you're getting on the right one. Of course they check your ticket etc before you board. Pretty stress free. By the way,, the seats are assigned, sono need to line up for a "good" seat in front. I think there are about 6 departures each day. I caught the 10:30 and it actually left on time.

Simian
03-05-10, 13:16
You are right, the Lao visa is needed to take this bus and that's why it is not an option unless you got your visa in BKK.
It's a great option for the return trip though.
Schedule of international bus to Udon from Vientiane attached.
It is news to me that the Lao visa is required to take this bus (Udon to Vientiane) and this may be a recent change. I have taken this bus twice in both directions and both times coming from Udon they waited for me to get my visa on arrival - but that was about 6 months ago and I guess that things change.

Mart Cham
03-05-10, 17:06
It is news to me that the Lao visa is required to take this bus (Udon to Vientiane) and this may be a recent change. I have taken this bus twice in both directions and both times coming from Udon they waited for me to get my visa on arrival - but that was about 6 months ago and I guess that things change.

I have never tried without a visa but have read everywhere that the bus would not wait long enough for you to get a visa on arrival. And indeed I found the visa on arrival process in Laos to be quite time consuming almost every time. When I took the int. bus from Vientiane to Udon, it never seemed to wait that long at the checkpoint. Furthermore, the lady who was selling the ticket in Vientiane asked me to show her my passport last time and I assumed this was to check that I had, indeed, a visa already. I can't remember if they had done this on previous trips.

HotShaneHot
03-05-10, 22:27
I flew into Udon Thani on a small turbo prop plane operated by Nok Air. At the airport they bus you out to the plane in 9 passenger Toyota vans. It's the type of plane that seats 2 on one side and 1 on the other. They asked for a volunteer for the jump seat in the cockpit, but I was too slow to get my hand up. That would have been interesting to fly in the cockpit. Pilots seemed British or Aussies.

Checked into the Irish Clock and thought the set up looked OK. A lot of British congregate here. The place serves both English and Thai food and they do a booming dinner business. I tried a couple of Thai dishes and they were just OK. The clientel is 90% white foreign guys. I never saw a free lancer in the place during my 3 nights there. I certainly wouldn't consider it a pick up place and there are no bar girls to take out.

My room was on the first floor and there is no lift. They have 2 floors of accommodations above the bar. Was not noisy at night. Air con is fine, bed good. The owner showed me to my room and set up my computer connection on the spot which I appreciated. It turned out to be a poor internet connection. There were tiny ants all over my laptop after the first hour of use. I didn't notice any in the bed fortunately. They do have a good laundry service. The location is surrounded by bars with a lack of interesting talent. It certainly doesn't compare to the row of bars in Chiang Mai near the Raming Lodge. I did bring one lady home for st. Bar fine was 400 and her fee was 700. BBBJ no problem. Another night and bar it was 300 bar fine and 1000 short time.

I did pay a tuktuk to take me around to soi 2 and 7 late one night, but the area looked too sketchy for my tastes and I didn't stick around long. The girls looked young as well. One mammasan drug me into her shack and when someone closed the door behind us, I got way too nervous. LOL

By the way, total tab at Irish Clock including laundry was 2800 bhat. Cheaper than what I'm used to paying.Hey when you bring lady back to your room did you have to take her through the main bar for all to C. All is there a side door?

Xdentx
03-06-10, 15:24
There is indeed a separate side door which allows you to bypass the restaurant bar scene.

Xdentx
03-06-10, 15:27
I'm now in Koh Samui and like it here so much that I wish I hadn't put any time into Udon Thani. I did UT mainly to access Vientiane overland, rather than paying the high flight costs into Laos.

HotShaneHot
03-07-10, 00:30
I'm now in Koh Samui and like it here so much that I wish I hadn't put any time into Udon Thani. I did UT mainly to access Vientiane overland, rather than paying the high flight costs into Laos.Hey so how was Vientiane?

Is there a lot of ladys there for S/T all L/T?

And how much?

Xdentx
03-07-10, 09:21
Hey so how was Vientiane?

Is there a lot of ladys there for S/T all L/T?

And how much?


I believe long time is available for 2000 bhat, as a lady agreed to that after some haggling at Club Anou. I do not know if a bar fine was involved there because I got irritated and didn't take her. See my report under Vientiane. I had short time out of the four story walk up club on the riverside...but did not mention it. ST was 1000 bhat. Freelancer place with no bar fine and perhaps the best sex of my one month trip so far. Perhaps will post under Vientiane. HOwever, the streets totally empty out at midnight. I don't remember any lady bar scene at all, as it's illegal for Laos and non Laos to have sex.

Mart Cham
03-07-10, 09:47
HOwever, the streets totally empty out at midnight. I don't remember any lady bar scene at all, as it's illegal for Laos and non Laos to have sex.
But some bars and clubs remain open well after midnight, some until late (club on roof of big hotel on the banks of the Mekhong for example). 1000 bahts LT no problem at all with freelancers.

Fred Gold
03-08-10, 22:47
I'm planning on being in Nong Khai in a few months. Anyone know is Mut Mee Guest House is gf?

Fred

Xdentx
03-09-10, 03:57
I'm planning on being in Nong Khai in a few months. Anyone know is Mut Mee Guest House is gf?

thx Fred

I'd just ask and if they don't give you a direct yes answer, assume they are not.

Goyave
03-09-10, 09:08
I'm planning on being in Nong Khai in a few months. Anyone know is Mut Mee Guest House is gf?

thx Fred

According to the following report, it is not: 994290

But as suggested previously, you should send them an e-mail and politely ask them whether or not they charge a joiner fee if a "guest" comes and stays with you overnight at this place.

Bella Oxmyx
03-09-10, 13:37
According to the following report, it is not: 994290

But as suggested previously, you should send them an e-mail and politely ask them whether or not they charge a joiner fee if a "guest" comes and stays with you overnight at this place.Is it EVER a problem if at time of check in you just tell them it will be a room for two people? I've gone numerous places with girlfriends in the past, and just checked in that way. So what if she's not with you when you check in?

Of course, if would be funny if they asked you to write down her name on the registration, and somebody put "To Be Determined."

Goyave
03-10-10, 12:15
Is it EVER a problem if at time of check in you just tell them it will be a room for two people? I've gone numerous places with girlfriends in the past, and just checked in that way. So what if she's not with you when you check in?

Of course, if would be funny if they asked you to write down her name on the registration, and somebody put "To Be Determined."

When I plan to stay at a new place, I always try to figure out beforehand (by sending an e-mail, for instance), whether or not it is girl friendly.

But you probably can also book a room for two persons, and just mention one of those very common nicknames (Noy, Nok, Fon, Lek, Nid, etc.) if the name of your companion is requested! It should do the trick in Thailand, as almost nobody uses his or her real fullname in most cases of his or her everyday life!

Rtpman
03-11-10, 04:14
I thought I'd post my impressions and observations of Udon Thani.

I arrived early in the week and booked a room at the Top Mansion hotel. It's very basic, but heck for the price, 370bhat, it is fine. After being in Bangkok, Udon is of course more laid-back but not nearly as expensive.

I find it very easy to get around. Most of the places I want to go are within walking distance but a tuk tuk ride comes in handy on the longer treks.

I found the Irish clock to be a good place to eat with good food, beer and service. After being there a couple of times I decided to try New York. Likewise, if you are an American they have a nice breakfast spread. Enjoyed hanging out there over a few beers.

First day or so the heat was what I expected. Weather took a nice turn and it was actually cool on Tuesday night. It has stayed comfortable Wednesday and Thursday.

Girls - Like I said it is more laid-back here. The day before I came to Udon, I'd been at one of the beer-bars in Bangkok.. I don't think I had taken my first drink of beer before one lady had unzipped my pants and asking me for a lady drink. The first bar I went to G-spot, I drank a beer and chatted-up a girl there and was never asked for a lady drink. I realize that isn't necessarily the norm as one of the other places I went too I was asked for a Lady drink by the time I drank half my beer. I enjoy the beer-bar scene, but decided to try the brothels.

Soi 7. What can I say, I didn't really feel welcome or comfortable. No one approached me and I didn't see anything I couldn't pass up.

Soi 2. When I saw it at night I didn't feel comfortable walking down it until I knew the layout. I went the next day near dusk and checked out about four of the houses. I'll have to agree that I was a little nervous but the girls seemed nice enough. However, I had one more mission.

Vietnamese brothels - I had heard there was also a row of vietnamese brothels and decided to check that out as well. I haven't noticed it posted here so thought I'd pass it on. Turn left on Wattana Nuwong rd from Soi Samphan Thamit. Go past the two traffic lights. You will see a large communications tower on the right side of the street. Looking to the left there will be a small road. I didn't see a street sign. I counted either three or four houses with some pretty girls. Nice part is they are open for business in the early afternoon. I decided to try one of them out. I figured I'd be charged 400 bhat but when I asked, the papason said 300. Hey, that works for me. The girl took me back to a small room.. and I do mean small. The girl was friendly which helped to relax me. The only bad part about brothels like this is it pretty much a boom-boom. I've been a monger long enough that just having a naked girl with no foreplay makes for a tough situation. She slid the raincoat on and motioned for me to do the deed. If only I was 18 years old again! After a moment or two I was hard enough to do her and not embarrass myself.

I'll be back to sample more at both the brothel locations this week.

Question: Sorry if I missed this in searching the posts... do the girls in the bars do short-time or only all night LT? I am sleeping poor enough as it is without sleeping with one eye open with a girl in the room?

Thanks

Rocksoff
03-11-10, 05:22
Vietnamese brothels - I had heard there was also a row of vietnamese brothels and decided to check that out as well.

Lao, without exception. Ditto in Soi 7 and soi 2.


Question: Sorry if I missed this in searching the posts... do the girls in the bars do short-time or only all night LT?

She'll leave when you ask her to, but I doubt she'll lower her price for ST. The girls in soi 2 and soi 7 can come to your hotel for ST, should be about 700. At Udon Hotel a bellboy organized it for me.

Goyave
03-11-10, 09:46
... Vietnamese brothels - I had heard there was also a row of vietnamese brothels and decided to check that out as well. I haven't noticed it posted here so thought I'd pass it on. Turn left on Wattana Nuwong rd from Soi Samphan Thamit. Go past the two traffic lights. You will see a large communications tower on the right side of the street. Looking to the left there will be a small road. I didn't see a street sign. I counted either three or four houses with some pretty girls. Nice part is they are open for business in the early afternoon. I decided to try one of them out. I figured I'd be charged 400 bhat but when I asked, the papason said 300...

Those are actually the Lao brothels of Soi Fai Deng, and they are already mentioned several times in this thread by several members (I even posted a map here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=122273).

A few previous reports mentioning this Soi:
803177
929306
981723

There is a lot more than 3 or 4 brothels in this soi, and, yes, the current price is still 300 baht for a ST session (one shot or about 30-45 min.) with a cute Lao girl (500 baht for a longer session: 60-90 min. or two shots) on premises.

It is possible, at least for regular customers, to pick up girls from the Lao brothels in Udon Thani to do the deed at your hotel or own place if you live in the area. I've done that several times in the past and was charged 600-800 baht (depending on the place) for a two-hour session. Alas, these houses usually charge a lot more if you want to keep one of their girls with you overnight.

Rtpman
03-13-10, 09:48
Those are actually the Lao brothels of Soi Fai Deng

Yes, I realized after reporting that this must be the case.

HotShaneHot
04-09-10, 06:36
I did hear that ther is three new young babes in the Jungle bar.

If aney one in nongkhai now love to hear about it.

I am not back ther to July.

I will report back then.

Siam Bluebird
04-10-10, 19:08
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=803177

Everything still similar to this post?

Be there for a few days next week if any mongers about.

Goyave
04-11-10, 01:50
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=803177

Everything still similar to this post?

Be there for a few days next week if any mongers about.

Yes, everything is pretty similar to what I wrote then. In Udon Thani, the less known brothel on Prajak road now opens later than in the past (better to check this place at around 10pm nowadays) and the girls available there are also less numerous and often less attractive on average than they used to be.

In the meanwhile, the quality has improved in the brothels located in Soi Fai Deng, and the prices are still the same (300 baht for a ST session on premises): it's the best value in Udon Thani in my humble opinion. I've seen more and more Farang customers in this area in the recent weeks.

Nong Khai brothels were great in the past, now most of them are not. This town is worth a visit only if you have to go there for some other reasons (tourism or visa run, for instance) than mongering. Fun can be had, but girls available in most of the Nong Khai brothels are older, less numerous and much less attractive than what was available there just two years ago.

Bella Oxmyx
04-11-10, 05:53
I did hear that ther is three new young babes in the Jungle bar.

If aney one in nongkhai now love to hear about it.

I am not back ther to July.

I will report back then.This post reminds me of the last time I was in Nongkhai. I tried to find it with the vague information I had read here before. The tuk tuk driver said "yes" when I asked if he knew where this place was. But he didn't know. He stopped and asked directions from numerous people (mostly from other bars), and drove all around to different areas. Every time, the name "Jungle Bar" drew complete blanks on peoples faces. Nobody had seemed to have ever heard of it before. Finally the driver gave up, and tried to hijack me for 150 baht for a ride he originally quoted as costing 50 baht. I gave him 50 baht and he complained that he drove me all over looking for this place (in reality, we probably spent 15 minutes and covered about all of the different bar areas I know of in Nongkhai.) The driver was really holding out for 150 baht, and I just asked him "Why did you tell me you knew where this place was, and tell me 50 baht to go there, when I asked you before getting in the tuk tuk? "

I have to wonder if Jungle Bar really exists in Nongkhai? If anybody knows that it does, please post a specific location. I have a visa run to Vientienne coming up in another week or so!

Goyave
04-11-10, 22:26
... I have to wonder if Jungle Bar really exists in Nongkhai? If anybody knows that it does, please post a specific location...


http://www.nongkhaimap.com/nongkhaiforum/jungle-bar-nong-khai-t13909.html

HotShaneHot
04-13-10, 20:12
This post reminds me of the last time I was in Nongkhai. I tried to find it with the vague information I had read here before. The tuk tuk driver said "yes" when I asked if he knew where this place was. But he didn't know. He stopped and asked directions from numerous people (mostly from other bars), and drove all around to different areas. Every time, the name "Jungle Bar" drew complete blanks on peoples faces. Nobody had seemed to have ever heard of it before. Finally the driver gave up, and tried to hijack me for 150 baht for a ride he originally quoted as costing 50 baht. I gave him 50 baht and he complained that he drove me all over looking for this place (in reality, we probably spent 15 minutes and covered about all of the different bar areas I know of in Nongkhai.) The driver was really holding out for 150 baht, and I just asked him "Why did you tell me you knew where this place was, and tell me 50 baht to go there, when I asked you before getting in the tuk tuk? "

I have to wonder if Jungle Bar really exists in Nongkhai? If anybody knows that it does, please post a specific location. I have a visa run to Vientienne coming up in another week or so!I will take you about 1min to look it up.

Did you read my report on the 1-30-10 I think on page 6?

Get a map you will find it. Look for beer belly billy's it is on the map

Have fun.

I did see them pic from Goyava yes that is it. Good to see someone has been ther.

Bella Oxmyx
04-14-10, 18:38
Okay, I have a general idea where it is.

I think the tuk tuk driver did not go far enough last time.

I should be up that way sometime next week. I'll try to add some more specifics after going there.

Thanks!

HotShaneHot
04-15-10, 08:18
Okay, I have a general idea where it is.

I think the tuk tuk driver did not go far enough last time.

I should be up that way sometime next week. I'll try to add some more specifics after going there.

Thanks!Hey go to beer belly billy's it is back 2 shop's he will show you ok

That is how I did find it.

Bossies
04-16-10, 13:15
Any advice about the best places on Khorat. Before some years it was an attractive city for mongering. Where is is it most easy to find bars or freelancers?

Thanks folks

Goyave
04-30-10, 10:12
I had to go to Nong Khai a few days ago. I visited the local brothels that were already open in the early afternoon, but the situation was then not much better than on my previous visits this year.

I don't understand why the quality is now so low in the local brothels in Nong Khai, especially compared with the same kind of venues in Udon Thani. Anyway, I managed to find one (and only one) attractive enough provider, but service was not on par with her decent looks, alas.

More info about her in the photo gallery: 1014862

Acunaway
04-30-10, 18:13
Opebo, goyave,

Have you been to Buriram lately?

Anything remarkable there?

Goyave
05-01-10, 02:42
Opebo, goyave,

Have you been to Buriram lately?

Anything remarkable there?

I was in Surin a few months ago, but did not make a stop at Buriram, sorry. In Surin, I visited a karaoke joint with a friend, but it was a waste of time and money (as often in this kind of place). Cute girls there, but in the end, it was (allegedly) this "special period of the month" for both girls (mine and my friend's)! Yeah, sure!

We've had better luck later in a small cheap brothel located very near the railway station. We saw only three girls there. One real cutie (in her early twenties) and two older girls (in their late twenties or early thirties). I let my friend go with the cutie and I chose the less ugly one among the two older girls. It was a cheap (500 baht each including tips) but very satisfying session for both of us (my girl did everything I wanted then, including anal).

Bumholes1
05-01-10, 13:37
I was in Surin a few months ago,
We've had better luck later in a small cheap brothel located very near the railway station. .

I know the railway Station area very well, but have never come across a brothel there.

Can you please give some detailed directions

Thanks

Goyave
05-01-10, 15:13
I know the railway Station area very well, but have never come across a brothel there.

Can you please give some detailed directions

Thanks


Actually, we first found one of the girls who was looking for customers at the railway station, on the far left side of the first station platform. Then, we followed her to reach the road that is located on the other side of the railway tracks at about 50-70 meters north from the platform (we had to carefully walk over the tracks, but there was no traffic then). The brothel is just one of the first little "houses" on this road (looking at a map of Surin, I think that the name of this road is Thanon Damrong Rak).

I attached a map to this report, but the location of the brothel on it is very approximate. I would easily find it if I were back again physically in this area, but I am not 100% sure to place it correctly on a map several months later.

Bumholes1
05-02-10, 02:20
Actually, we first found one of the girls who was looking for customers at the railway station, on the far left side of the first station platform. Then, we followed her to reach the road that is located on the other side of the railway tracks at about 50-70 meters north from the platform (we had to carefully walk over the tracks, but there was no traffic then). The brothel is just one of the first little "houses" on this road (looking at a map of Surin, I think that the name of this road is Thanon Damrong Rak).



Thanks Goyave.

I will take a look when next down that way

Opebo
05-02-10, 18:09
Opebo, goyave,

Have you been to Buriram lately?

Sorry not in ages.

I have however been back to check on Udon Thani and as one might expect, like most good things, it is in thriving health due to the current situation of good government. The sois are as open and well supplied with girls. My friend took an extreme cutey (the only kind they have, really), at the 600 baht house and I took an old favorite from a 400 baht house, both in the soi 2 area. Excellent service for me, just the way I like it, but alas I couldn't finish as I'd been in a Khon Kaen soapy earlier in the day. My Thai friend said his girl was very nice and pleasing.

By the way I talked to one girl as I waited for my fave to finish her previous customer.. this girl spoke English reasonably well, and received an international call from a foreigner while we were chatting. She asked the foreigner to send her money by Western Union. So, it seems even the Lao girls in the illegal alien brothels have learned to milk the foolish refugees from the bad places rather than merely providing good service for good money.

Opebo
05-02-10, 18:28
I also visited Khon Kaen recently over several days, where I had a fine service from an old favorite from the bus station streetwalkers and several soapy experiences.

The bus station scene seemed about as well supplied as ever, with a few decent looking 18-21ish girls, and the small brothels over on the 500 baht brothel soi seemed to be thriving. All things fare well under the hands-off government.

Regarding the ab aum nuat (soapies), my friend and I visited all - Lillies, Kosa, Ceasar, and Villa. We found as such - still 1100 base at Lillies, but that place has added 3-4 'side-liners' at just 1300 or 1400 (can't remember which). Basically they're young cuties, but everyone else in that place is unattractive. At Ceasar things were as usual there - some surprisingly cute girls, smaller selection. We didn't take at either.

At Kosa there were lots of girls, mostly not worth the higher price, but on one occasion I took a tall 22ish white skinned side-liner for 2,200 baht who said she only worked 5 days a month. I believed it as she was really bizarrely horny in the room. Quite enjoyable though cover was required for intercourse. Not so with the one I took on another day - a girl I had known back in the day at Ceasar, now working at Kosa. Very sexy slim girl of around 24 with tastefully done fake breasts, provided the natural sex, but kept stopping every time she sensed I was getting close out of fear of pregnancy, despite my promises to come outside. Finally she insisted we shift to hand-job, but I couldn't finish that way. Bizarre to find the covered girl was more satisfying than the uncovered, but the latter was just too flaky (also the condom didn't feel too bad as we had used baby oil on the inside of it as a lube; didn't break though).

Finally I took a nice looking but rather aged (28) woman at Villa, priced at 1300. I was totally surprised as in the room her bored demeanor changed and we had good BBBJ, a little DATY, and a rousing BBFS, all done with a spark of chemistry I hadn't felt in a month. Funny how when you least expect it you enjoy it the most.

Lastly I'll mention that we were offered 'college girls' by one tuk tuk driver, and one papasan at Villa did say that he could hook us up with such next time, at around 2,000 or 1,500. I may try this and report next time.

Amjeck
05-02-10, 19:07
By the way I talked to one girl as I waited for my fave to finish her previous customer.. this girl spoke English reasonably well, and received an international call from a foreigner while we were chatting. She asked the foreigner to send her money by Western Union. So, it seems even the Lao girls in the illegal alien brothels have learned to milk the foolish refugees from the bad places rather than merely providing good service for good money.Yes, indeed. The sexy lao girls are well on the game now especially those in isaan. I had one girl try and suck me dry with the whole "my moms sick" story. I just stopped answering my phone after that.

Acunaway
05-03-10, 06:52
Opebo,

You live in Bangkok? How can you go to Udon Khon Kaen that often? I know these questions are not directly about sex but I guess many forum readers want to know more about forum leader.

Kuratla
05-03-10, 09:47
Technically, not Isaan region but close enough.

I'll be spending a fair amount of time in Phitsanoluk over the next year.

If anyone has any locations / advice concerning P4P up there, I would appreciate it.

I will, of course, be doing my own recon and will post upon any enjoyable experience I have.

Cheers,

Kuratla

Rocksoff
05-03-10, 13:28
I'll be spending a fair amount of time in Phitsanoluk over the next year.

If anyone has any locations / advice concerning P4P up there, I would appreciate it.

Search, I think Asshole had something to say.

I was there once, an old samlor guy took me to a place quite near the train station, a bit to the south if I recall correctly. It was a soi with dilapidated wooden houses. I paid 500 baht. There were at least 2 houses in operation, but not much on offer.

MeatMan
05-04-10, 18:29
This post reminds me of the last time I was in Nongkhai. I tried to find it with the vague information I had read here before. The tuk tuk driver said "yes" when I asked if he knew where this place was. But he didn't know. He stopped and asked directions from numerous people (mostly from other bars), and drove all around to different areas. Every time, the name "Jungle Bar" drew complete blanks on peoples faces. Nobody had seemed to have ever heard of it before. Finally the driver gave up, and tried to hijack me for 150 baht for a ride he originally quoted as costing 50 baht. I gave him 50 baht and he complained that he drove me all over looking for this place (in reality, we probably spent 15 minutes and covered about all of the different bar areas I know of in Nongkhai.) The driver was really holding out for 150 baht, and I just asked him "Why did you tell me you knew where this place was, and tell me 50 baht to go there, when I asked you before getting in the tuk tuk? "

I have to wonder if Jungle Bar really exists in Nongkhai? If anybody knows that it does, please post a specific location. I have a visa run to Vientienne coming up in another week or so!

I hate when tuk tuk drivers do that shit!. It really pisses me off. All they see is the farang, the money, and nothing else.

Frank Anon
05-05-10, 12:17
Yes, everything is pretty similar to what I wrote then. In Udon Thani, the less known brothel on Prajak road now opens later than in the past (better to check this place at around 10pm nowadays) and the girls available there are also less numerous and often less attractive on average than they used to be.

In the meanwhile, the quality has improved in the brothels located in Soi Fai Deng, and the prices are still the same (300 baht for a ST session on premises): it's the best value in Udon Thani in my humble opinion. I've seen more and more Farang customers in this area in the recent weeks.

Nong Khai brothels were great in the past, now most of them are not. This town is worth a visit only if you have to go there for some other reasons (tourism or visa run, for instance) than mongering. Fun can be had, but girls available in most of the Nong Khai brothels are older, less numerous and much less attractive than what was available there just two years ago.I think I might have to move to Udon Thani because I have been paying 1,000. 2,000 baht for ST in the local area where I live.

300 baht for ST is probably the best value in all of Thailand.

Goyave
05-06-10, 00:58
... 300 baht for ST is probably the best value in all of Thailand.

This price is not uncommon in local brothels, even in other parts of Thailand. But you have to know that a ST session in a brothel is about 30-45 minutes only (unless you are already a regular customer of the place, and then, the mamasan or papasan might allow you to stay a bit more with the girl) and that most of the girls are not very experienced, therefore, they usually are reluctant to do certain things (BBBJ and anal for instance - those require patience and an incentive: a couple of one hundred baht banknotes usually suffices if the girl is only semi-reluctant). They often just spray their legs and adopt a starfish attitude.

That being said, it's not always the case, and when you regularly visit those places, you may find some decent providers... or you may also take the time with several ST sessions to teach a willing girl what you like (but be aware that there is a high turnover of girls in these establishments, and after a couple of months, your best "students" are often back in their home).

Kuratla
05-06-10, 05:27
Well, I had to do a tour with a bicycle taxi guy to find some action in Phitsanoluk. Apparently, that's there main function - bringing tourists to the girls.

I didn't have much choice in the matter as I wasn't prepared to wonder the streets aimlessly for hours until I found the right locations.

I was taken behind an apartment near one of the hospitals (don't remember the name at the moment). Small back soi. 4 girls (late teens to mid-20s, I would guess) sitting outside someone's home. The madam in charge of things quoted 700 baht. I would have been interested if I could have taken one of the girls back to my apartment but that wasn't possible, apparently.

Had to do the deed inside the house... which had kids running around. Umm... no thanks. I passed and got my guide to take me to a place where the girl would return with me to my apartment.

Got lost along the way so I doubt I can find it again where I ended up at. A small soi. We passed a karoake bar with some nice girls sitting outside waving me in. Ended up at seemingly ordinary massage palor. The mamasan asked for 400 baht upfront for a 2 hour massage. I picked the nicest looking one and went back to my room.

I had to confirm with her in the room that "special" was on the menu. It was.

However, it was a rather large let down. No kissing. No BBBJ. She whined about sucking me even with a condom on. One shot and she was ready to run out the door. Price was 1500 baht... which we worked out beforehand.

Too bad. She had a nice body, nice tits, tight pussy. Performance was sub-par.

Guess I need to keep looking......

Amjeck
05-06-10, 07:44
This price is not uncommon in local brothels, even in other parts of Thailand. But you have to know that a ST session in a brothel is about 30-45 minutes only (unless you are already a regular customer of the place, and then, the mamasan or papasan might allow you to stay a bit more with the girl) and that most of the girls are not very experienced, therefore, they usually are reluctant to do certain things (BBBJ and anal for instance - those require patience and an incentive: a couple of one hundred baht banknotes usually suffices if the girl is only semi-reluctant). They often just spray their legs and adopt a starfish attitude.


I'd have to agree that lots of these girls provide very poor service. You better have a hard on as soon as you walk through the door or else things are gonna get funky!

Also, these places are absolutely filthy! Used condoms all over the place and dirty sheets with pubic hairs and spunk stains.

Goyave
05-06-10, 19:01
... Also, these places are absolutely filthy! Used condoms all over the place and dirty sheets with pubic hairs and spunk stains.

That's true in most cases, but I've noticed that the situation has improved in the recent years. For instance, a couple of brothels (among the cheapest ones) in Udon Thani underwent some renovation work not so long ago and I know at least five places there in the 300-400 baht price range where the girls' rooms are not that bad. Of course, in the most expensive locations, the rooms are a lot better.

Goyave
05-06-10, 19:14
... No kissing. No BBBJ. She whined about sucking me even with a condom on. One shot and she was ready to run out the door. Price was 1500 baht... which we worked out beforehand.

Too bad. She had a nice body, nice tits, tight pussy. Performance was sub-par...

Alas, that's a very typical attitude in these areas. Most of the girls here are not used to service Farang customers. It's not like more touristic places such as Pattaya, Bangkok, Phuket or Koh Samui, for instance. By the way, Western-style kissing is not yet a common practice in Thailand, especially in its rural or less touristic parts. Thais "sniff kiss". More info about this here: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/569665/the_sniff_kiss_love_in_a_breath.html

Amjeck
05-07-10, 04:43
Alas, that's a very typical attitude in these areas. Most of the girls here are not used to service Farang customers. [/url]
I think lots of these girls are used to locals walking in with a hard on, sticking it in, and cumming in just a few minutes then leaving, thus that is why they just lay there and do nothing.

If I was 18 again, I think this type of set up would be absolute bliss!

NicFrenchy
05-07-10, 06:29
Western-style kissing is not yet a common practice in Thailand, especially in its rural or less touristic parts. Thais "sniff kiss".

Well the lady can sniff kiss my ass all she wants as long as I have my BBBJ :D

Kuratla
05-07-10, 14:15
They need to get trained up in BKK for 6 months or so. Then return to the provinces and do a proper job.

Opebo
05-07-10, 21:03
Also, these places are absolutely filthy! Used condoms all over the place and dirty sheets with pubic hairs and spunk stains.


That's true in most cases, but I've noticed that the situation has improved in the recent years. For instance, a couple of brothels (among the cheapest ones) in Udon Thani underwent some renovation work not so long ago and I know at least five places there in the 300-400 baht price range where the girls' rooms are not that bad. Of course, in the most expensive locations, the rooms are a lot better.

You guys are far more sensitive than I, though I have to admit Soi Sow Fie Dang can be a bit dirty. Soi two isn't so bad. If you fellows want to stick to both a higher standard of girl and a much nicer room (private bath, actual shower, better bed and fixtures, even air if you pay extra), go to the 600 baht house on the side soi off of Soi 2. Just go down to area where the houses are still open and you'll see the soi to your left - turn left and its the first house on the right.

The girls are almost uniformly tip-top in appearance, and the rooms are really nice. They even sometimes have one or two 800 baht girls who are real tall-white-slim Thai style beauties, and with them I'm told you automatically get the air-con room. My middle class Thai friends will only patronize this house.

By the way I got the Clap shortly after a recent visit to Soi 2... not certain I got it there or in Khon Kaen soapies, but word to the wise.

Goyave
05-08-10, 06:25
You guys are far more sensitive than I, though I have to admit Soi Sow Fie Dang can be a bit dirty...

I'm not that sensitive (I don't care much about the room itself, it's not what matters the most for me). Actually, I just wrote that the situation has improved in the recent years, even in the cheap brothels of Soi Fai Deng. A couple of them underwent some renovation work in the last two or three years and the girls' rooms are a lot better than in the other establishments located in the same area.

By the way, there is also a (relatively) nicer than average place located in the middle of the first small perpendicular soi (when coming from the main road) that connects Adunyadet Soi 3 and 4. I currently still pay 400 baht ST there (I'm a long time customer, and it was even 100 baht cheaper here in the past), but I know that they usually try to get 500 baht from their new Farang customers. Rooms there have air conditioner and their own shower room with hot water.

Goyave
05-09-10, 04:34
Technically, not Isaan region but close enough.

I'll be spending a fair amount of time in Phitsanoluk over the next year.

If anyone has any locations / advice concerning P4P up there, I would appreciate it...

I just found a report that you might want to read: 948442

Kuratla
05-09-10, 06:28
I just found a report that you might want to read: 948442

That is useful. Thank you.

I shall explore around there on Tuesday night and see what I can find.

Phantomtiger2
05-10-10, 23:59
walking in with a hard on, sticking it in, and cumming then leaving, thus that is why they just lay there and do nothing.

!


Ha, Sounds alot like my ex-wife.

PT

Simian
05-11-10, 00:43
Soi two isn't so bad. If you fellows want to stick to both a higher standard of girl and a much nicer room (private bath, actual shower, better bed and fixtures, even air if you pay extra), go to the 600 baht house on the side soi off of Soi 2. Just go down to area where the houses are still open and you'll see the soi to your left - turn left and its the first house on the right.

The girls are almost uniformly tip-top in appearance, and the rooms are really nice. They even sometimes have one or two 800 baht girls who are real tall-white-slim Thai style beauties, and with them I'm told you automatically get the air-con room. My middle class Thai friends will only patronize this house.
I really like the 600baht house. I always get a gfe there and the conditions are so much better. I have done the 300baht thing in the other houses and sirs but frankly it is not a great experience. I wish they had more of the 600 baht variety. Only problem is that they don't open that house until about 7pm. Would be so nice just to head down there for an hour in the afternoon. In fact, if anyone out there knows of a decent place for some afternoon FS in reasonably clean conditions, I would be very interested.

Goyave
05-11-10, 03:43
... In fact, if anyone out there knows of a decent place for some afternoon FS in reasonably clean conditions, I would be very interested.

Read the last paragraph of this post: 1017764

This brothel is usually open in the afternoon. If it seems to be closed when you are in front of it, just check the place located at the Northwestern corner on the junction with Adunyadet soi 3 where the mamasan and papasan of this establishment are staying most of the time during daytime and one of them will then go and open the brothel's door for you.

I will check again this place in a couple of days, but if I am not mistaken, it's located correctly on the first attached map (nicerB1.jpg). If not, it's the second map (nicerB2.jpg) which is correct.

Goyave
05-13-10, 18:18
... I will check again this place in a couple of days, but if I am not mistaken, it's located correctly on the first attached map (nicerB1.jpg)...

I've recently checked again this place, and I can now confirm that the first map (nicerB1.jpg) is the correct one.

Mosquito2002
05-14-10, 12:41
Govaya,

How do the ladies compare with Soi 2 / 7 and Soi Fang?

Goyave
05-14-10, 13:33
Govaya,

How do the ladies compare with Soi 2 / 7 and Soi Fang?

Honestly, I don't think that the ladies are more or less attractive in one particular location than in another. In the past, Soi 7 had the reputation to host the most beautiful girls working in the local brothels, but it has never been very obvious, at least, according to my own experience there. The rooms might be very different from place to place, though. But regarding the beauty of the providers, there's nothing granted and real gems may be found in the cheapest brothels. Actually, if we are speaking about the girls' looks, the quality is not bad at all in the brothels of Soi Fai Deng. The quality of the services rendered there is another story...

By the way, my moniker here is Goyave (not "Govaya"), the French word for "guava" in English and it's one of the meanings of the Thai word "ฝรั่ง" (Farang).

Mosquito2002
05-14-10, 15:48
Sorry for the name mix up, and thanks for the clarification.

Opebo
05-14-10, 22:42
How do the ladies compare with Soi 2 / 7 and Soi Fang?

They're a bit better looking at Soi 2 than Sow Fie Dang, particularly in the fancier house. Maybe just a bit taller and better 'made up'.

Goyave
05-21-10, 16:42
One ISG member asked me in a private message a question about the current situation in Udon Thani regarding the local brothels. I think that other ISG members might be interested by my answer.

I live in Udon Thani province, not in Udon Thani city, but I was in this town Monday, Tuesday and today (Friday).

On Monday, it was business as usual, but many brothels were already (apparently) closed on Tuesday. As a regular customer in most of them, I've been able to enter in one of the apparently closed establishment (the "mamasan" saw me and opened the door, which was locked, for me).

On Wednesday, I was not in town, but several incidents occurred there, mostly in the Old City Hall area: http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/178436/old-building-of-udon-city-hall-set-on-fire

Today (Friday), in the late afternoon, I've checked the brothels of Adunyadet Soi 2 and those of Soi Fai Deng. Most of them were open then, although not all of them (I would say that about 75% of them were open then).

Opebo
05-21-10, 18:18
Goyave, you mentioned visiting on a curfew day (Friday). Was your visit during the day?

Goyave
05-22-10, 00:21
Goyave, you mentioned visiting on a curfew day (Friday). Was your visit during the day?

Yes. Yesterday, I wrote: "Today (Friday), in the late afternoon...". To be more precise, I went there at around 5pm.

Bumholes1
05-24-10, 13:55
Popped down to Surin today after a break of over 3 months

Was pleasantly surprised at the station. 9am - 2 very nice girls available. Took one from Chiang Rai- a 3 holer - for 300bt. 25 years old -slim .Cover optional!. excellent service.

Feeling exceptionally frisky, took a 2nd in the afternoon - hails from the NW of Buriram province. same price - sex and extensive oral provided. Took a time to come due to mornings activities and heat but she persevered, and wouldn't accept my throwing in the towel. Again cover optional. Excellent girl!

Opebo
05-24-10, 17:48
Wow, Bumholes, Goyave, you guys give me hope in a very depressing time. I have been completely holed up since the curfew as I hardly ever find anything during the day and in any case hate the heat. I've only been able to access regulars by telephone.

I was in Khon Kaen just days before everything went to s**t, and hung out in Cleo's Kareoke with a friend - 2,000 baht short times, very pretty girls. Needless to say we didn't take. At that time the 500 baht bus station girls were still around, but I'm sure the curfew has eliminated that as it was exclusively a post-nine or ten PM affair.

Opebo
05-27-10, 18:46
Over the last six weeks I had two excellent full-services just-the-way-I-like-it at Villa, each for 1,300 baht. Decent looking late-twenties women in both cases - nothing spectacular, but good sex and very cooperative. Almost got anal with one but had only baby oil with me - would've needed KY for sure to seal that deal.

Also, Lilly's Massage in the Charonesi Grand Princess is closed, the desk staff said permanently. Sad to see any Soapy lost to us, though that one was usually very mediocre.

Opebo
06-01-10, 20:45
I tried Ceasar Soapy the other day after not visiting for a long while. The guy kept recommending one girl that I couldn't see - where I was sitting she was on a couch with the back to me (yes Ceasar seems poorly laid out). Anyway, I took another one that looked tall and slim, though not very white. Imagine my shock when in the room it turned out she had a bad baby-stomach! And she had been priced at the 1,500 baht level, which certainly ought to gaurantee something decent. I really can't imagine how a Thai man would react to that, and Thais are the bulk of the customers at that establishment.

As it turned out she provided great service including bb, but not without a certain amount of initial protestastion. Her vagina was quite loose and sloppy, which I liked but I'm sure many would not. Creampie was recieved with a good humor, and to be honest her utter lack of interest in sluicing seemed strange to me.

Anyway in Khon Kaen I would still have to recommend Kosa for the looks and Villa for service.

Goyave
06-04-10, 17:55
I visited Soi Fai Deng in Udon Thani earlier today (at 7pm approximately) and all the brothels of this area were open then. Moreover, it seems that the girls were also more numerous than in the past weeks.

I saw many girls (and several of them were long-time favorites of mine) that are now back to work here after having "disappeared" for a few weeks or months.

I've been told earlier that these girls were back in their home village or town in Laos, and even about one of my favorites that I've met again today (yes, I met her also in the "biblical sense"!), that she got recently married in Laos and would never come back here! Not sure how true it was then (I didn't ask the question to the girl herself, because if it's true, she might be embarrassed to explain why she has to work again in this brothel), but I was quite happy to see her again today. She has gained some weight in the meanwhile (about 4 extra kilos, I would say), her hair is a bit shorter and her skin color is a bit darker than in the past, but she's still cute and delivers an almost decent service, which is a bit of a rarity in the local brothels of Northeastern Thailand.

Funny enough, in the brothel where she works again, I now "know" several nice girls that are all currently working here (some of them also recently came back after a few weeks or months spent elsewhere, presumably in Laos), and they all have different qualities (for instance, anal sex is possible with one of them, another one gives decent head, another one has great tits, etc.), so, the choice is tough for me now that they are all available at the same time! It will be even tougher on my next visit, because I also saw today a little spinner who was going out of the "bathroom" (just after my session with her colleague) and who seems to have a very beautiful body and who looks to be great fun (she was not shy and joked a bit with me).

Usually, I select only one girl at a time in each brothel (and select only this girl on my next visits and as long as she stays in this place if she's a decent enough provider), and as I like variety, I just go in one establishment or in another one, depending on what kind of girl (or service) I want then. But now, it seems that I will have to schedule my visits elaborately, and in more than one establishment (but in this brothel in particular), in order to enjoy the company of each various provider successively! The beds there are too small alas for a threesome (so, forget about a foursome or more, of course!), provided that the girls would not have been reluctant (which is far than being granted in the local brothels of Northeastern Thailand anyway).

I also saw a lot of new cuties today in this area, so, this soi is definitely worth a visit in my humble opinion if you can go to Udon Thani in the next weeks.

Opebo
06-19-10, 17:39
Just visited Soi 2 - everything's open, numbers and quality the same, though as usual girls cycle home and back a lot so it is mostly new faces. This time I tried one from the 'better' house and one from a regular house and got poor service and no concessions from either. Very disappointing trip but no surprise - chances are less than 50/50 in those brothels, and if old favorites are away and your budget is at most 1000 baht, you might well get two duds in a row and be a loser.

Interestingly the man quoted 500 to us first at the 'lower end' house, but I said no way, and he leaned over and whispered to my Thai friend and I that 400 would be fine but he didn't want the other customers, who were newbies, to hear. (They were Thai, just not knowledgeable.)

Goyave
06-24-10, 14:39
... Interestingly the man quoted 500 to us first at the 'lower end' house, but I said no way, and he leaned over and whispered to my Thai friend and I that 400 would be fine but he didn't want the other customers, who were newbies, to hear. (They were Thai, just not knowledgeable.)Yes, they try that trick with almost every foreigner nowadays, but 400 baht is still what Farang customers should pay in this area (and 300 baht on Soi Fai Deng) for a ST session.

Last time I went there (a few weeks ago), regular Thai customers were still paying 300 baht in the brothels of Adunyadet Soi 2.

In Nong Khai, they now also try to charge their Farang customers 400 baht for a ST session in the cheapest brothels, but 300 baht is the regular price. Ok, it's just a one hundred baht difference, but there is no reason to overpay (the working girls won't get more money anyway) and it's better to give a tip directly to the providers themselves (who deserve it).

By the way, at least for me, the quality is not great nowadays in the cheap brothels of Nong Khai. But Soi Fai Deng in Udon Thani rocks!

Opebo
06-25-10, 19:21
Last time I went there (a few weeks ago), regular Thai customers were still paying 300 baht in the brothels of Adunyadet Soi 2.Interesting - when I was there, he was trying to charge Thais 500 baht, and was whispering the 400 to me in order that the Thai guys not hear. My Thai friends always get asked for at least 400 and sometimes 500 at those houses, but I suppose they do look rich.


By the way, at least for me, the quality is not great nowadays in the cheap brothels of Nong Khai. But Soi Fai Deng in Udon Thani rocks!I never go to Nong Khai since Udon is so much better and is less far for me. I agree that Soi Sow Fai Deng is nice for the price (300 baht), but I find service is so bad I usually have to try 2-3 girls to get one that is enjoyable, so the real price is still about 1,000 baht for in order to cum. Also most of the girls are so damned short, and quite a few are a bit chubby really - I just don't like those little extremely short ones.

AsiaFloyd
06-27-10, 22:40
Any daytime activities up there?

curious mind wants to know if he gets the desire.

Mosquito2002
06-28-10, 13:13
My prospective on Udon Thani, for what it's worth!!!

3 golf courses.
Sri Thani - 9 hole, decent condition/challenge...only negative is that the
greens are slow.
Wing 23 - 9 hole course, fair conditions...greens are bad.
18KM - 9 hole course, challenging w/ multiple shot making
required...negatives as usual in Issan gold, greens aren't the greatest.
* Army course just went thru a rehab, so expect it'll be open in a few
weeks.
** 18 holes (two time around) w/ caddie runs 300 baht during the week.
Horse Racing on Saturday, 10 races (crooked as hell, but entertaining). First
race starts at 1230 and the last race starts at 5 PM.
Food.
Irish Cock, good farang and Thai food....little pricey.
Oshii Rest, both buffet and regular.
McD, KFC and Pizza Company. Would be nice if we had a SubWay.
Multiple Thai Rest with good/cheap Thai food.

Nightlife.
Day and Nite, worth visiting (once). Though you may get lucky.
Soi 2 and Soi Farang, brothels.
I prefer Soi 7, aircon rooms and more of a relaxed atmoshphere.
Cost: Soi 2 - 400 baht / Soi Farang - 300 baht / Soi 7 - 850.
Soi 7 cost (150 room S/T and 700 for the lady)
They will bring the ladies to your room, be picky as they have a large
number available and they will normally start with ladies in the 5-6
range.
Masssage/Soapy - have only been to Oscars, opens at 1200....not worth
visiting until after 5 PM. Price (if I remember right): 1600
regular/1800 Sideline.
I personally like the Orange Moon Bar (same farang street with Irish Cock
and Day and Nite). Some nice ladies there, and they have a decent
pool table (sticks suck).

Central Mall / Robinsons - Just a regular mall, there are always some hotties walking around. I'm old and normally with the wife, so haven't tried picking up any thing.

One Go-Go, Wolverine's.....worth visiting once for one beer. Limited eye candy and ST / LT prices are crazy for Udon Thani.

Haven't been to any of the many massage parlors (back and feet), and haven't heard any good reviews.

Oh, on bar lady prices. Have been quoted 500-1000 baht for S/T and 1000-2000 LT. Right now, expect you can get the lower quote with most ladies.

There are a large number of Thai open air bars, night clubs (as most cities in Issan have).......friends have had good luck picking up ladies.....only problem would be that majority of the ladies don't speak a lick of English.

I don't get out often, but this is my prospective on Udon!!!

Amjeck
06-28-10, 16:01
Soi 2 - 400 baht / Soi Farang - 300 baht / Soi 7 - 850.

Where is soi farang?


Have been quoted 500-1000 baht for S/T and 1000-2000 LT. Right now, expect you can get the lower quote with most ladies.

Bar girls are so overpriced in Udon! I've never seen anything quality enough to come even close to 1000 ST. Some of these girls are so old and used up. I was almost insulted when lots quoted these prices. Just goes to show how many dumb foreigners are showing up nowdays in Udon!

Goyave
06-28-10, 16:27
Where is soi farang?

There used to be a "Soi Farang" in the past, an area with small bars (now, it's a parking lot and the bars were demolished more than one year ago) that was located opposite to Central Plaza (formerly known as Charoensri Complex), but actually, Mosquito2002 is probably speaking about "Soi Fai Deng".

Soi Samphan Thamit (the small street where the Irish Pub is located) is now sometimes referred as the new "Soi Farang", because one can find several bars that caters to many (mostly?) expatriates in this area.

Goyave
06-28-10, 17:01
Interesting - when I was there, he was trying to charge Thais 500 baht, and was whispering the 400 to me in order that the Thai guys not hear. My Thai friends always get asked for at least 400 and sometimes 500 at those houses, but I suppose they do look rich.

I clearly saw an elderly Thai gentleman paying only 300 baht in the first (when coming from Adunyadet main road) brothel on the right (the one with a sliding door) in Adunyadet Soi 2. That's also the price that the working girls told me (although, not recently) that the Thai customers pay in several other brothels of this Soi.

I guess that your Thai friends did not know the regular price and asked how much it is in the selected brothel. That's probably why they were charged more. Moreover, I suppose that if they speak "central Thai" and not the Isan dialect, it's another clue for the local mamasans and papasans to charge them more than the regular price.


... I agree that Soi Sow Fai Deng is nice for the price (300 baht), but I find service is so bad I usually have to try 2-3 girls to get one that is enjoyable, so the real price is still about 1,000 baht for in order to cum. Also most of the girls are so damned short, and quite a few are a bit chubby really - I just don't like those little extremely short ones.

I usually don't like the chubby girls too and prefer them slim (and relatively tall preferably, but I also like little spinners), and I encounter not much difficulties to find girls up to my liking in Udon Thani (but not anymore during daytime in Nong Khai, alas).

In my humble opinion, the service is not much different in the various local brothels in Udon Thani. You're right: you often have to visit several places (or try several girls in one brothel) before finding a girl who provides a decent service, but it's true in every red district area in Northeastern Thailand that caters mostly to locals, I suppose.

I am lucky enough to visit the local brothels frequently and I know where I can find decent enough (at least for me) providers in the cheapest places, but it's certainly hit or miss for people who can not come here often.

Opebo
06-30-10, 17:20
Any daytime activities up there?

Yes, for daytime activities there are three 'Soapies' - Kosa Hotel (1100/1700/2000/2200, with good quality at higher prices), Ceasar's Massage (1100/1500/1700, sometimes with good quality), and Villa Massage (near Roma Hotel, 1000/1300, lower quality, much better service).

I have no idea if the small brothels which masquerade as kareokes on the small brothel soi are open during the day, but I suppose they might be partially open in very late afternoon. Day is not a normal time for nightlife activities in Isaan.

Dan Key
07-04-10, 05:43
Tried this 'infamous' massage next to Pathumrat Hotel. Had a history of entertaining Pol Pot's generals as well as the USAF from the 70s on. Was a fishbowl about 3pm with 6 ladies. Was about 6 guys on the seats who all jumped up when I walked in, so they all 'worked' there, although their roles were unclear. No other punters. One guy got talking to me and the others low fived him. I talk some Thai, and he had 3 words of English. Selected a youngish girl. He demanded a tip, and I reluctantly parted with 100b.

Service was OK. She was sweet and inexperienced, which was fun for while. The act was a bit boring, unless you like a girl going 'ow, ow' with her head turned away, eyes closed and hands over her breasts.

The kicker came when I left. I paid the 1500b for 90 mins. Then all these layabout dudes surrounded me, wouldn't let me leave. They finally looked up what they wanted in a book. 'tip, tip'. Disgusted, I handed the girl 100b, and slammed 100b on the counter and stormed out.

Do us all a favor and never go this dump!

Prison Break
07-05-10, 06:33
Hi everybody.

I just arrived in udon thani and found soi 2 quite easily though at noon the choice is not great.

I was trying to locate Soi Sow Fai Deng but was unable to do so.

Any help maybe?

Thanks

Goyave
07-06-10, 03:59
... I was trying to locate Soi Sow Fai Deng but was unable to do so...

I already answered to your PM, but I guess that my response might be useful here too for other ISG readers.
__________________________________

I posted a map some time ago. It's here: http://www.internationalsexguide.in...chmentid=122273

It's not far from a red and white tower that belongs to the CAT International Telephone Office. The brothels of Soi Fai Deng are on the left side of Wattana Nuwong road (coming from the Paolo Hospital).

__________________________________

Amjeck
07-07-10, 21:37
The kicker came when I left. I paid the 1500b for 90 mins. Then all these layabout dudes surrounded me, wouldn't let me leave. They finally looked up what they wanted in a book. 'tip, tip'. Disgusted, I handed the girl 100b, and slammed 100b on the counter and stormed out.

Do us all a favor and never go this dump!
Why would you tip if you were "disgusted"? Looks like they got what they wanted.

Better to smile and walk away leaving nothing.

Dan Key
07-08-10, 00:06
Why would you tip if you were "disgusted"? Looks like they got what they wanted.

Better to smile and walk away leaving nothing.Sure. Lesson learnt. But I emphasize, these dudes surrounded me and wouldn't let me leave. Pretty ugly.

BTW, I don't want to cast doubts on Ubon. It's a beautiful friendly town, similar size and feel to Chiang Mai, with a university as well. No one speaks English and very few tourists, so it's unchartered waters. Apparently, plenty of P4P but you must speak good Thai

Amjeck
07-08-10, 09:45
Sure. Lesson learnt. But I emphasize, these dudes surrounded me and wouldn't let me leave. Pretty ugly.


"Surrounded" you in a hostile manner? Did they hold you back? If they used extortion, then that is way fucked up! Thais are always trying to get a one up on foreigners.

Opebo
07-08-10, 19:05
Over the last few months I've been getting consistently great service from many different girls at Villa Massage, and the typical rule-bound but otherwise good service at Kosa Massage. It does help a lot to ask the men working at Villa which girls are 'good service' girls.

At Ceasar however I have noticed some unpleasant developments - the staff seemed pushy the last couple of times I visited. Once the mamasan practically forced a girl on me - I never saw anything like it. She kept pointing at one girl and saying her name, as apparently I had taken her in the past. This seemed to make her assume I would want to take her again, which was definitely not the case. Anyway she had called her over to my table and brought her a drink without even asking, and brought a room key and said ok lets go! All before I had agreed to anything. The clincher was the girl had bad breath! I told her sorry but there was a misunderstanding, and she went away in a huff. Then the mamasan just stood over me staring at me, waiting for a decision about which girl to take. It was like she couldn't bear to have a farang sitting in there idling away the time at 10:30 PM (which seems strange as I have sat there before, and they all claim the place is open not just to the previous 12:00 PM hour but till two AM nowadays.

Anyway, I was so glad I stood my ground - I picked a cute-but-far-from-beautiful little girl who kept smiling at me from the 'Bird Bird' section (only 1,200 baht), which was 300 baht cheaper than the girl they tried to foist on me. I ended up having one of the best sessions I've ever had in a Soapy - a new girl, seemingly very horny, who appeared to get a big kick out of having a farang (supposedly for the first time). In any case it was enthusiastic, seemingly passionate sex, and the way we like it - she didn't even pause when hopping on top.

Total damage:
1,200
300 tip for the you-know-what
100 tip damanded by the overbearing mama afterwards

1,600 baht is really too much even for good sex with an average looking 20 year old, but that's the way it is in Khon Kaen.

HotShaneHot
07-10-10, 01:58
Read the last paragraph of this post: 1017764

This brothel is usually open in the afternoon. If it seems to be closed when you are in front of it, just check the place located at the Northwestern corner on the junction with Adunyadet soi 3 where the mamasan and papasan of this establishment are staying most of the time during daytime and one of them will then go and open the brothel's door for you.

I will check again this place in a couple of days, but if I am not mistaken, it's located correctly on the first attached map (nicerB1.jpg). If not, it's the second map (nicerB2.jpg) which is correct.Nice work how did you ever find that place Aney way I did look up your map and it is niceB1.jpg place and you are right it look like the brothel closed all not one at all.

I was go with 2 friend's that live in nong khai and they was think it was not one to I go inside and have a look and then stay for s/t it was 500 s/t 45 min.

HotShaneHot
07-10-10, 02:21
Read the last paragraph of this post: 1017764

This brothel is usually open in the afternoon. If it seems to be closed when you are in front of it, just check the place located at the Northwestern corner on the junction with Adunyadet soi 3 where the mamasan and papasan of this establishment are staying most of the time during daytime and one of them will then go and open the brothel's door for you.

I will check again this place in a couple of days, but if I am not mistaken, it's located correctly on the first attached map (nicerB1.jpg). If not, it's the second map (nicerB2.jpg) which is correct.I was stay at a nice chep hotel near this place suksun mansion $350 bt per night one of the nice's and clean hotel in udon on soi 5 just 3 min by foot to niceB1

You allso can find take away brothel's in soi 7 just up from 7/eleven same 500 s/t they take you and lady back your room on motor bike.

Goyave
07-10-10, 09:26
... I go inside and have a look and then stay for s/t it was 500 s/t 45 min.

Actually, the regular price for Farangs is still 400 bahts for a ST session there (it used to be even cheaper in the past), but the person in charge will try to charge you more than that, especially if you are a new customer (it's, alas, a common practice nowadays in the red districts of Udon Thani and Nong Khai).

Just smile, stay polite, and explain that you know that the regular price is 400 bahts (here) for Farangs (you can trust me on this one, I live in the Udon Thani province most of the year and regularly visit the local brothels since year 2002). You shouldn't have to haggle a long time as the mamasan or papasan would usually agree on this price once you've told them.

Goyave
07-10-10, 10:14
I was stay at a nice chep hotel near this place suksun mansion $350 bt per night one of the nice's and clean hotel in udon on soi 5 just 3 min by foot to niceB1...

I guess that you are actually speaking about the Ruysuk Mansion: http://www.ruysukguesthouse.com/room.html

Ruysuk Mansion is very near Adunyadet Soi 7, opposite Soi 6, and is indeed a cheap accommodation in this area. I haven't stayed here myself yet, but I know that several other ISG members frequent this place and are apparently quite satisfied with it.

Amjeck
07-10-10, 10:53
You allso can find take away brothel's in soi 7 just up from 7/eleven same 500 s/t they take you and lady back your room on motor bike.
I believe prices range from 500-700 on soi 7?

Goyave
07-10-10, 11:03
I believe prices range from 500-700 on soi 7?

It used to be 500 baht + 100 baht for the room in the past at this pickup joint on Soi 7 for regular customers (I know that they often try to charge their new customers more than that nowadays), but I suppose that Hotshanehot only paid 500 baht because he had his own room at the Ruysuk Mansion.

Amjeck
07-10-10, 11:22
It used to be 500 baht + 100 baht for the room in the past at this pickup joint on Soi 7 for regular customers (I know that they often try to charge their new customers more than that nowadays), but I suppose that Hotshanehot only paid 500 baht because he had his own room at the Ruysuk Mansion.
Well there are several houses on soi 7. At only one of them I've payed 700. The others were all 500. These prices correct?

Goyave
07-10-10, 11:54
Well there are several houses on soi 7. At only one of them I've payed 700. The others were all 500. These prices correct?

I haven't visited this soi recently myself (I favor the cheapest brothels as the quality of the providers is not much different in my humble opinion), but your price range is probably correct: one of my friends paid 800 baht (room included) in another brothel of this soi a few months ago, but he had been slightly overcharged as a newbie there, I suppose.

Opebo
07-10-10, 19:37
Well there are several houses on soi 7. At only one of them I've payed 700. The others were all 500. These prices correct?

I've never been able to find any actual houses on Soi 7 since the crackdown a few years back. For several years all my friends and I could find on Soi 7 was the option of going to the short-time bungaloes and having them bring a very small selection of girls - usually only one girl for each man - for us to take or not take. The girls have continued to be well above average here, but at 700 plus 130 for the crappy room, it is way too expensive for what you get (typical poor service).

Have the old houses re-opened on Soi 7? Are they especially hidden? When we drove up and down the soi last night we only saw a few touts inviting us to the bungaloes, no houses.

To Goyave - we finally located your hidden house on the side soi. We were also quoted 500 baht but there was nothing worth taking so we left without bargaining. Seems like the quality is pretty low lately, though the numbers are reasonably high.

My last 3-4 sessions in Udon have been such terrible service I'm beginning to despair of the place. For sure there is no friendliness or enthusiasm, and everything is very plastic. On the last visit I was actually asked 1,000 baht for what they claimed was a 'special' girl at the expensive (600 baht) house just off Soi 2. My picky Thai friend used to always get these 'special' girls for 800 baht at this house, but they wouldn't budge from 1,000. Anyway it was a total waste as service was abominable.

Amjeck
07-10-10, 20:37
My picky Thai friend used to always get these 'special' girls for 800 baht at this house, but they wouldn't budge from 1,000. Anyway it was a total waste as service was abominable.
You think that the service is poor for Thais as well? I'm curious if it's because the girl sees a farang and in her head she is saying: "i don't want to go with this foreign guy". So maybe she is setting herself up for disaster from the get go.

I've found that service is usually poor also, but if I speak thai, or I take the girl a second time she usually performs better.

Opebo
07-10-10, 21:03
You think that the service is poor for Thais as well? I'm curious if it's because the girl sees a farang and in her head she is saying: "i don't want to go with this foreign guy". So maybe she is setting herself up for disaster from the get go.

Well, sure, most of them dislike foreigners more than they dislike Thais, but I think the standard of service is just very low, kind of 'just lie there', and in general most girls are very condom insistent. Of course most Thais don't need very good service to enjoy themselves, and focus mainly on appearance.

HotShaneHot
07-11-10, 01:44
I guess that you are actually speaking about the Ruysuk Mansion: http://www.Ruysukguesthouse.com/room.html

Ruysuk Mansion is very near Adunyadet Soi 7, opposite Soi 6, and is indeed a cheap accommodation in this area. I haven't stayed here myself yet, but I know that several other ISG members frequent this place and are apparently quite satisfied with it.No Suksun Mansion.

Just down the road on soi 5 about 2 min by foot to ruysukguesthouse and the room's are so much beter way nicer.

If you can read thai you will see the sign on adulyadet Road same side that the bookhouse is on.

Goyave
07-11-10, 04:13
No Suksun Mansion.

Just down the road on soi 5 about 2 min by foot to ruysukguesthouse and the room's are so much beter way nicer.

If you can read thai you will see the sign on adulyadet Road same side that the bookhouse is on.


Oh, yes! It's the สุขสันต์ แมนชั่น in Thai! I did not know this place.
http://sooksantmansion.hong-pak.com/

Sorry for my misunderstanding and thank you for your information about this hotel.

Mua Tur
07-11-10, 06:05
Well there are several houses on soi 7. At only one of them I've payed 700. The others were all 500. These prices correct?

It seems that after couple of months Soi 7 has been imprved. Couple of months before I'v also visited posibl all sub-sois; but none was offered anything to me. Personaly couple of times I'v entered in shitty huts by revealing plastic rappers but unfortunately I failed to find any hidden house there.

HotShaneHot
07-13-10, 01:29
Oh, yes! It's the?? In Thai! I did not know this place.

http://sooksantmansion. Hong-pak.com/

Sorry for my misunderstanding and thank you for your information about this hotel.Yes you got it

And thank you for you info on this part of udon as I was only been day / night befor

And as for soi 7 it was a take away and I did pay 500 there too

I did ask the lady back in room what she get out of it 200 so I give a tip.

Opebo
07-13-10, 17:30
On Soi 7 you guys are finding 'take away' - do you mean there are actual houses there you can sit and look a the girls, or that the touts you see along the street there bring girls on motorbikes for you to look at?

Over the last few years there have been no houses open on Soi 7, but if any have recently reopened I'd love to check them out.

HotShaneHot
07-14-10, 04:41
On Soi 7 you guys are finding 'take away'. Do you mean there are actual houses there you can sit and look a the girls, or that the touts you see along the street there bring girls on motorbikes for you to look at?

Over the last few years there have been no houses open on Soi 7, but if any have recently reopened I'd love to check them out.Yes I did find take away on soi 7

If you enter from the sourth of soi 7 go up about 3 to 4 soi on the left side they is a houses with about 10 girls in ther all about 18y to 22y I think.

You pick one and pay 500 they will take you and the lady to your room by motmrbike.

You may see man on right hand side of Road he will take you to see them

It have a gate that is coverd up of dry grass near the hotel on one of them left side st about 20mt down Road.

The one I did see still not have baby yet so did have a hot body 10/10.

Opebo
07-17-10, 20:47
On Friday night I drove into Khon Kaen just at midnight, just missing the Soapies - why must they close so early? Really you don't have much chance at them even an hour before their midnight closing time. The parking lot attendant at one offered me girls, but I felt discouraged and went away. Next I called a regular I met through the bus station scene, but the phone was kaput, so I went to cruise round the station.

Alas I found only about three girls around the bus station, and none at all attractive - it was such a marked change that I have to guess there has been some sort of crackdown. On previous visits I had seen at least a dozen girls and most of them very cute, though a little rough for the most part.

So, lacking any other option for anything like a reasonable price, I had to go to the soi of small brothels. I've visited this soi many times but only rarely taken, as the attitude is so unfriendly there - downright hostile. On this visit I noticed that all the houses (maybe around 6-8 houses altogether) were well staffed, with the two or three big ones having 10-12 girls, and the rest around 4-5 girls each. Many girls were quite good looking, and not old, most being about 18-25. I had a bad feeling about service, but tried one that was at least very cute and smiled (most look at a farang with dread, no smile).

Well as it turned out it was a satisfactory experience, and though low-service and a starfish, she gave me what I wanted and I was able to finish. Very nice body too - one of those Isaan/Lao types where you think the tits can't be real, they're so firm and perfect and upstanding (though not large).

The only disconcerting thing about the encounter was one of the pimp boys teased her a lot on our way to the room, and later banged on the door when she nipped back in after her little wash in the shared restroom - he was just kidding around with her, but it was pretty unprofessional. These places are like that - surprisingly cute Thai girls on offer, but way less professional and less welcoming or comfortable for the customer than the Lao staffed placed in Udon.

Total cost 600 baht plus a 200 baht tip for as-you-like-it.

Opebo
07-25-10, 13:38
Just wanted to report that when strolling I came upon around 4-5 (at least) brothels that I had never seen before, and they looked roughly the same quality level as the main well known brothel soi. I'd have to say the placed seemed a lot friendlier, though the girls were certainly no better looking and just a little older (late 20s instead of early). They quoted me 1,000 for 'massage and boom boom', to which I just walked away, and they called after me 'ok 800'. Who knows what the real price is, but anyway its there and I hope someone tries it.

These brothels are located on a soi which leads over to the Kosa/Pullman area, from Rad Nightclub. The best way I can describe it is to go to Rad, and then accross the road from Rad you will see a smallish soi. Go up this soi and you will see some brothels. If you are walking from for example Didine Restaurant or Violin Kareoke towards Rad, the soi in question will be on the left.

That visit I stopped by Kosa Soapy, where I usually don't have much luck, and chose a very good looking tall slim 23 year old for 2,000. And got what I wanted, amazingly enough (a great rarity as Kosa) - though only after going to immense amounts of trouble (seducation, titillation, argumentation, etc. - it was like a date). Plus a tip of 500 was demanded for that service. While overpriced, the girl was very very nice looking, and the sex very good and impassioned.

Simian
07-26-10, 06:25
Found myself with time to kill in Nong Khai recently. Decided to head down to Soi Sri Boon Ruang to see if anything was happening at the brothel there. I never had success there before. Either the place was closed or I was ignored. THe problem is that I don't speak much Thai.

When I arrived this time, there were one or two women outside handing out clothes or whatever. I went up to one of the pretty ones - she had an incredible ass, one of those nice shaped ones, and reasonably big tits. She was only 21. When she spoke to me, I just murmured agreement. I pointed inside and she kinda said yes but looked up the street to the next building where there were several guys with their shirts off sitting around. She called out to them and pointed at me. One of the guys appeared to agree and I was in.

Room was about as good as it gets in such establishments. Cement block walls and a large bed - it seemed to be the girls bedroom. I had to pay the 500baht in advance. But I showed her another 200baht and said that she would get them as a tip at the end, if she was good.

Before all the cheap charlies jump in accusing me of destroying the market, let me say that I am after quality, not quantity. Normally I don't do brothels because the quality sucks big time. In any case, my strategy worked very well at least in the way of gfe - lots of passionate kissing which gets me going every time. Gave my dick a good massage too.

She was Lao (which explains the no offer of bj and why I could not even understand a word of the girls chitchat with my very limited THai). Dark skinned, natural large tits and a sunny kind of character. The only slight put-off was that I noticed while we were doing doggy that her ass had pimples and that kind of bruising that you see so often in SE Asia. She really got into it and either deserves an oscar or really got into it. At the end, with me pointing her with her heels over my shoulders, she tightened up her vagina muscles to give me the best orgasm I have had in months.

This was a really nice experience and so much better than the bar girl I picked up the previous evening for fun back at the hotel. I am not saying that the bar girl did not provide but again with no bj and she seemed to prefer that I get her off than she get me off! I paid her 700baht for an extended short-time - same as the one in the brothel.

THe problem with Nong Khai is that you can never predict outcomes when it comes to the hobby. You can find yourself wandering around with money burning a hole in your pocked and no acceptable providers available or you can find a mediocre provider or you can get really lucky and have a fantastic time.

Massage joints where before I got an extremely nice balls massage with HJ finish don't do it the next time. I even had a backup place with older ladies where I could get a 2 hour massage with boom boom but that stopped. A couple of hotels that used to have girls suddenly would not let you have a girl despite the fact that the girls were there, looking at you. And the same hotel that refused me in the past recently tried to call me in from the street while I am passing to offer me a girl. Go figure!

HotShaneHot
07-28-10, 09:08
Nice BBBJ, cof, cim.

HotShaneHot
07-28-10, 09:51
I have know this lady for of six months.

HotShaneHot
07-28-10, 11:10
She did stay all night 2 nice long root's and BBBJ

And the same the next day.

HotShaneHot
07-28-10, 12:20
Take away at soi 7

GreenBud
07-30-10, 07:22
I was in Undon Thani for 1 night 2 weeks ago. It's cheaper to go Vientiane via Undon Thani on Air Asia.

Stayed at Top Mansion. Overall not bad for 370 Baht. Need to pay for internet (50 for 1 hour; 100 for day). Good location. But one of the staff pissed me off. Was shown a room on second floor. It was OK. She then gave me a key for the 4th floor; she said all the rooms on the 2nd and 3rd floor was taked/reserved. After I went to my room, I realized the bed was older. I could feel more of the springs, and the bed was sagging in the middle. I was tired and it was only for 1 night, so I stayed (I was irked, but I got more pissed off later that night when my ribs felt the metal springs). Somewhat of a bait and switch. It seems they put the newer beds on the lower floors. They have no elevators, so people reserved/get the rooms on the lower floors.

Now what really pissed me off was that clerk brought up the subject of airport transport. I said I would probably take the tuk-tuk to the airport. She then asked me if I knew how much it was. I said 80 baht (that's what the internet said). Shen then said: no no, that is way too low. If you negotiate, you can get it for 150. But only if you negotiate well. Shen then said the meter taxi is a flat 200 baht fare. I got the tuk-tuk in the morning for 80 baht. Not sure if she was that ignorant, or if she was a lying ***** trying to get a commission or work for her tuk-tuk friend. That was just a rhetorical question.

If you can't handle people trying to rip you off, then you probably shoudn't travel (especially in the third world). I would come back to the Top Mansion only if I get a room on the second floor with a decent bed. Location is good.

Nightlife:

The hotel is on a short street that has T intersections with major streets on both sides. The Central Shopping Mall is near by.

As you step out of the hotel, turn left and go to the end. Turn right, and few hundred meters? later you get to Soi 2. You turn right to Soi 2. What I expected. No A/C dirty room brothels. Talent was mostly marginal. There were 2 that were surprising cute. But of course they looked "around" 18. Next year or so, they are definitely worth 3200 baht in a Bangkok go-go bar (700 bar fine plus ST 2500 tip).

I traveled further to find Soi 7, but I couldn't find it. But didn't try too hard.

As you step out of the hotel, turn right and you will find the Day and Night open air bar complex on the same street. Not that crowded; some of the bars were closed.

Then continue to the T intersection and turn left. You see several bars. As you continue, you then see the Nutty open air bar complex.

Didn't confirm the prices in these places. Didn't partake; I don't like shack brothels and open air bars (unless I'm desperate).

Goyave
07-30-10, 08:40
I... Now what really pissed me off was that clerk brought up the subject of airport transport. I said I would probably take the tuk-tuk to the airport. She then asked me if I knew how much it was. I said 80 baht (that's what the internet said). Shen then said: no no, that is way too low. If you negotiate, you can get it for 150. But only if you negotiate well. Shen then said the meter taxi is a flat 200 baht fare. I got the tuk-tuk in the morning for 80 baht...

I only pay 50 baht from the Central Plaza (formerly known as Charoensri Complex) to the airport via tuk-tuk (so, it should be about the same price from the Top Mansion).

With a regular meter taxi, it should not be more than 70 baht (and probably less). Minimum charge is 30 baht, but then, the total fare is very cheap. I don't know what is the exact rate per kilometer, but a friend of mine who recently had a car accident and who then used very often the local taxis never paid more than 100 baht for his longest ride.

Here are the phone numbers of the taxi service he used in Udon Thani:

- Telephone: 042-343-239
- Cellular phones: 080-0101-354, 080-0101-355, 080-0101-356

You also may find regular meter taxis at the main bus station in Udon Thani.

Goyave
07-30-10, 08:55
...I had to pay the 500baht in advance. But I showed her another 200baht and said that she would get them as a tip at the end, if she was good.

Just for your information, the regular price (even for farang customers) is 300 baht in the brothels of Soi Sri Boon Ruang 2. The pimps will try to charge more than that nowadays (typically 400 baht). With 500 baht, you may have two shots or be allowed to stay a bit longer with your girl (60-90 minutes then instead of 30-45 minutes that you would get when paying 300 baht only if you are a new customer, but once you are a regular customer, they usually stop enforcing those "time limitations" then).

I also give good tips to the girls, so, I won't blame you on that point, but IMHO there is no reason to give more money than the regular price to the pimp (as the girl won't get more money on this amount then).

By the way, the quality (beauty) of the providers has slightly improved there since my previous visit, but IMHO, it's still a lot worse than two years ago in this area or than in the cheap brothels of Udon Thani nowadays, at least, in the afternoon (I went there at 4pm)...

PauloThai
07-30-10, 19:32
Take away at soi 7Hi Hotshanehot,

Where is Soi 7? Is it Bangkok. Pattaya. Or Udonthani?

Cheers!

Opebo
07-30-10, 19:59
...Soi 2. What I expected. No A/C dirty room brothels. Talent was mostly marginal. There were 2 that were surprising cute. But of course they looked "around" 18. Next year or so, they are definitely worth 3200 baht in a Bangkok go-go bar (700 bar fine plus ST 2500 tip).

Those are Lao girls, normally they don't go to Bangkok to work in go-gos. Also there is at least the one house on Soi 2 in which all rooms are air-conditioned.