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ZX10
09-14-02, 18:31
Carlos,, do u know lawrence from austrialia??

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JDietz
09-25-02, 10:26
Penhball Gone, KM11 arrives.

For those of you who don't already know, Lucky has decided to pull the plug on www.PenhBall.com because of all the bull he had to go through the last couple of months.

I wish him the best and thank him a lot for all the effort.

I hate to see the community go, though, and therefor opened up a new bulletin board site, which I hope will grow into what Penhball was.

the address is: www.km11.com

I hope to see a lot of familiar and new faces around.

Thanks!

Erik
10-02-02, 20:36
Anybody knows of the scene in Pailin ?

JT
01-04-03, 06:00
I would really like to know about Pailin too. I heard that it is like "Las Vegas" in a small way. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

JT

Skinless
01-26-03, 06:41
greetings eathlings. i am at this moment reading an article by kathy marks from the independent newspaper which circulates here as a sunday supplement. here are some quotes for your comments about svay pak : """"
oral sex costs $5; $500 buys a six-year-old boy for a week.

the girls are, in effect, sex slaves: they recieve no money, only food, and armed guards stop them running away.

if thepolice did their job properly, they could arrest 50 ****s a day.

a unicef survey concluded that 35 per cent of cambodia's 55,000 prostitutes were under 16.

svay pak, once just an anonymous village, is now extolled in the darker recesses of the internet.

the child sex trade, once tiny, is now booming. """"

Erik
01-30-03, 22:19
For me, the arrogant Thai leadership has tryied to take advantage of the pre-election situation in Cambodia to manipulate people and provoke shit out there. The Khmers, who felt insulted in their well founded national dignity, have reacted in a primary way, as they are far less shrewd and sophisticated than the Thais, and don't really know how to deal with the world media, like the Thais do. Now the Thais pose as victims. Flights between the two capitals are cancelled for now, the border in Hat Lek/Koh Kong is closed (I don't know about the Aranyapratet/Poipet one), Thai aid to Cambodia is on stand by (should not involve big amounts anyway), and diplomatic relations have been downgraded. All that at the initiative of the Thais, who obviously try to escalate the incident. Don't worry guys, the border with Vietnam is no problem, and that is where the best girls come from... Less bastard Thai businessmen in Cambodia can only be a good thing for this lovely country.

MondaysChilde
05-21-03, 00:33
Marauder - Congratulations are in order.

The best favor you can do yourself is (a) stop spending money in U.S. massage parlors; and (b) do some online research to learn the scams, and gain knowledge from the tips and wisdom of those who have gone before.

But stop spending $$ on U.S. flesh, immediately. You'll be glad you did!

Guy #2
07-05-03, 07:30
Maurauder, when you get back from your trip, post some addresses of Thai and Cambodia hot spots so we can all enjoy the same experience. Tell us which places to avoid.

Skinless, who gives a shit about that issue? That's not my fucking problem. We can't all save the goddamn world. Maybe you should become a priest and fuck altar boys. HAha.

Headhunter2000
08-18-03, 08:37
Anyone have any info on the border town of Poi Pet?

Tman777
10-30-03, 19:42
Just returned from a 3 day trip to Cambodia. Bought the air ticket in BKK at Excursion Travel on Soi 5 for about 11,000 baht. BKK to Siem Reap for two nites, then flite to Phnom Penh for one nite and then back to BKK. I had some passport photos taken on Soi 5 before I left BKK for the Cambodian Visa. The visa processing at the Phnom Penh airport is quite efficient and costs $20. BTW, I flew on President Airlines, a Cambodian carrier. Probable only have one airplane, but the service and equipment was OK, especially for a 1hr 10 min flite.

After obtaining the visa, I had to make my way to the Domestic terminal for the continuation of the flite to Siem Reap. If you ask, people will direct you but no information was originally volunteered, so I was a bit confused about where to go. The domestic terminal is very close, so it's no problem to walk.

Arriving in Sie Reap, there is a taxi desk directly outside the terminal doors. You pay $5 (Yes, everything is in $US) to the desk and they assign you to a taxi for the trip into town. On the drive in the driver made it clear that he'd like to be my guide for the next couple of days and show me the temples and whatever else I need. He was fine, though the 1985 Toyota Camry was kinda ragged. Originally, the driver told me it would be $20 per day. I didn't have any hotel reservation so the driver suggested he knew a small hotel near the Old Market for $50 a day. I said fine and he took me to the Sakura Lodge. Pretty good location, very clean, lots of beautiful wood furnishing and internet access in the lobby. All in all, it was fine. By the time I got settled into the hotel it was about 3PM and the driver said he'd be back to pick me up at 5PM because it was important to view the sunset from the top of a small hill near Angkor Wat. It was the right thing to do I suppose, because the hill was covered with people and it is quite a site to see.

Next morning a 7:30 AM, driver was back for a full day of temple viewing--including some that are 30 to 40 kilometers out of town. On the way to the first temple, the driver informed me that because we were going to the "far away" temples, the price per day would be higher. By then, of course, I was sitting in his Toyota at 7:45 Am and half way to a temple. It was really no big deal but I ended up agreeing to $120 for the three days of service--trust me the guy needed the money and he was very helpful and always at my disposal. He even ended up taking me to his home the last day, clibed up a tree, dropped a couple of coconuts, hacked them open and shared a drink with me. It was quite an experience--most of the people have no running water and no electricity or phone. I didn't feel bad about giving him $120, but you should be aware of the issue and probable hash out the total agreement up front.

In order to view the temples (which my driver said were al sold to a Viet Namese syndicate!) you need to buy a ticket. The ticket is $20 for one day, or $40 for a three day pass. The 3 day pass requires a photo which they will take for free at ticket booth.

No ticket is required after 5PM, so you can view the sunset for free and a a one day ticket for the next day. Really I think that's enough.

The flite to Phnom Penh leave Siem Reap late in the day and the a domestic arrival is pretty easy. Walk out the domestic terminal and lots of taxis will be available for $7. I stayed at the Regent Park for $45 and I think the location was fine. Quite close to the National Museum, the Palace and the waterfront area with many restaurants. It was, however, a long ways from Martini's Disco, but really only a $3 taxi ride. Martini's is really quite a nice place (OK, not NICE) but OK. It has a food court area, a separate disco, and a large semi-outdoor bar area. It has all the "ladies" you'd want to meet. Mostly VM, I think. I met lots of friendly Ex-Pats there and had a very nice time, though I didn't indulge. I was assured the $20 price was for all nite.

Although I didn't visit the Killing Fields, I did take a tour of the prison and it's a very moving experience.

There are no ATMs in Cambodia, but you can change US travelers checks into dollars for a 2% fee. Carry lots of $1 bills and also obtain lots of 1,000 real local currency notes to give to the many, many deserving beggars.

Chikan
10-30-03, 21:19
Tman777

Good report. Nice to hear something current. Maybe the other more seasoned vet's can concurr, but that seemed to be a lot of US cash that you spent! $50 for a hotel? $120 US for 3 days to have some guy drive you around.....Again, maybe I'm way off base, and I'm not attacking you personally; just seems expensive! I can see Freeler rolling his eyes sky-ward if he reads the Cambodia forum....:)

Tman777
10-30-03, 22:52
Chikan: I think you are correct regarding the driver--I just didn't want to hassle with finding someone else right then and, like I said, he obviously needed the money. Regarding the hotel, I don't think I overpaid much. Siem Reap is full of all kinds of hotels from the new Sofitel at about $300/nite up all the way down to fleabags. The Sakura Village was middle of the road and it might have been slightly overpriced--but not much.

Also, I neglected to talk about the nightlife in SR. Frankly, I and most tourists were really exhaused after a full day at the temples, but I did check out the Martini's in SR--it is now strictly a disco. Not my style, begins late and loud music. I spent no time there. Apparently there used to be an outdoor "bar" associated with it, but no more. I did visit Zanzibar (Zanzy Bar) on each of my two nites for "before dinner drinks" and it is a nice little place. Run by a French speaking Belgium fellow and there are lots of pretty Kymer ladies available. On the second nite I took up one girls offer of a $15 massage at her place. Her room was quite close to Zanzibar (about a 5 min. walk) but it was down a dark dirt road and, frankly, about half-way there I began to get concerned about the neighborhood. It turned out OK but I don't know if I'd do it again.

Her attitude was nice and she was about a 7 in looks. Really, don't go to SR for the mongering.

BTW, I ate each night at The Red Door, a very nice little place in the middle of town that served French food. Good service, prices and ambiance.

Chikan
10-31-03, 19:41
Tman777

That's ok..I can understand sometimes when you don't want to hassle. Any other restaurants that you'd recommend? Sounds like a few days in Cambodia was enough...did you hit the firing range? That's something I still want to do someday! Gotta relive my nam days! :)

Tman777
10-31-03, 22:42
I only spent one day in Phnom Penh and I didn't go to the firing range or to the Killing Fields. I started early, hired a motorbike/driver for $10 for the day and visited the Central Market, The Royal Palace, The National Museum, Phnom Penh itself (a small hill with a temple) and the Prison. That was plenty and occupied a full day. In PP I ate at The Riverside Restaurant on Sisowat Quay. Nice French food and they are associated with a neighboring establishment named MatiHari. While eating dinner at the Riverside bar, a nice looking young thing sat down next to me dressed in black. The waitress, dressed in white, explained that all the ladies in black were from MatiHari and were available to take home ($30) and all the ladies in white were not available. Since I preferred the "lady" in white, I passed on the "lady" in black and went to Martini's instead.

The Sisowat Quay in PP is "restaurant row" and is quite close to the hotel I stayed at (Regent Park) and, I was told, Heart of Darkness Bar is nearby and it was recommended by a couple of ex-pats. Since I was only in PP for the one night, I didn't try Heart of Darkness.

Freeler
11-01-03, 12:53
Chikan,

Strangely, I can relate to the guy who was there for just three days. If you want to see shit you'll have to pay. And starting out with a B11,000 ticket and a $20 visa doesn't give you the impression you are entering a third world country.
I heard from quite a few experienced travelers that it can be difficult to pay reasonable prices in Cambodia, with the US dollar reigning supreme over local currency. Your minimum price basicly is $1.
Further more, we don't really know what the poor Cambodian can buy for his one dollar bill, perhaps just as little as we can and only the moneychanger is happy.
These things can get pretty complicated.
But honestly, Cambo can't be much more expensive (less cheap) than Thailand. And Thailand of course is very cheap if you look at the quality for cash equation. Places that appear to be cheaper simply don't make it to the Thai quality level. And there are places where you have to hand over a lot more cash and the quality still sucks: Caribean, Baltics to name just a few regions.

Erik
11-13-03, 17:03
Never marry a Khmer girl. These women are the most jaleous of all Asian women. Such stories are not rare in Cambodia.


PHNOM PENH, Cambodia (AP) -- A popular karaoke performer was
hospitalized
after his jealous wife tried, but failed, to cut off his penis while he
slept Wednesday, Phnom Penh police said.

Kan Bun Hou, 26, was asleep when his wife, Ma Len, attacked him with a
razor blade, said Touch Sarin, a Phnom Penh police chief. Police were
looking for the woman, who fled after the attack.

``The injury is not severe. It could have been worse if she had used
scissors,'' he said. ``His wound is treatable.''

The attack apparently stemmed from Kan Bun Hou's popularity as a
karaoke
performer. The couple had fought the day before.

``He's a handsome man and used to party a lot at night,'' Touch Sarin
said.

In August, a man was allegedly killed by his wife after she squeezed
his
testicles until he fainted and then tied his neck to a bed with a
scarf.
The woman, who said her husband used to beat her, turned herself in to
the
police.[End]

Cage Monkey
11-18-03, 04:58
Day One:

Arrive at PPH from Bangkok and am through the SEVEN person assembly line immingration processing without problems. Flight was only 1/4 full (Siem Reap Airline/Bangkok Airways) and when over quickly. Used the third floor passport booth to get my photo, so no problems with immingrations or customs. Meet my taxi driver, Sovan Mee (sovanmee at hotmail.com) there at the Airport. Was plessed about how new and clean the airport was, especially compared to Thailand airports. Sovan took me to the Walkabout hotel, where I stayed only one night. Walkabout has an excellent location, 24 hour bar, and nice, laid back feeling. However, the rooms, althrough clean, were too spartan for my needs, so only staid there for one night.

Sovan squired me around a bit, took me to Sharky first. Sharky was OK, decent selection I thought, if some of the less better looking ones very pushy. After a bit, off to Martinis. Martinis, to be truthful, looks and feels like a dump, and this in in dim lighting. Did not think the girls were as nice looking as Sharky. So, after a bit, went back to Sharky where I took a very slim, pettie Viet/Cambodia girl. She had a nice smile and an ass you could bounce a battleship off of it. She was natually about 100% hairless and was very professional about the business. Had a nice time, paid her $15 plus $5 tip for better than average performance for ST.

Day Two.

Sovan picked me up at Noon and I shifted my gear to the Queen hotel after looking it and the Hawaii. Queen was recommended to me by Sovan. Seem to be the more or less quality wise than Hawaii, but had bathtup which I liked, and some very nice looking hotel staff, whereas I found the Hawaii to be overly business like. There is also a travel agency and Internet on the ground floor, which is also nice. Sovan took me on a city tour, lunch at the Wagon Wheel (I think, decent food) by the riverside, and latter, to a massage palor. Cannot remember the name, but it seemed par for the course. About a dozen girls, I took the one with I thought the best body/face combination. Gave an OK massage ($5 per hour, discout for more than 1 hour) and then paid extra for sex. Again, average sex, no DATY, but boy, did she have fantastic breasts. Full and firm on an small and slim body, ended up cumming all over them, and it was well worth it.

That night, went to Sharky and took one of the pool playing babes. Cambodian, a bit taller, nice breasts, high cheekbones, named Avy. Took her long time, nice girl, good sex, but nothing really special. Body was very nice however, better than your average Thai girl by a lot. Next day, wanted $30, which I refuesed. Ended up paying 25 to get rid of her. Will get price from next Sharky girl.

Day three:

Sovan took me to the Genocide musem (where they tortured 1000's) and later the killing fields. Both very somber places, and everyone should be made to look at the 1000's of photos of the prisioners, many women and young kids. Never should something like this happen again. Prehaps with the information age at hand, such my never again happen, or at least in secercy for so long. Hard to tell, such is the wickeness of man.

Afterwards, went to Walkabout, and hooked up with a tall Dane. Dane had a pretty nice girl (if a bit screwed in the head, INHO) and I spent some time with a cute girl there. Her body was nicely put together, but face had a lot of acme scars, which I did not mind. Looked like she might have had some French blood in her. However, the Dane wanted to go to Shanghi Bar, so I told her I might be back, and left. Shanghi is setup more like a Thai beer bar, in that you can take the staff out after paying a BF. Not much quality, but a lot of girls. Best looking oned was an 18 year girl who was not going out with men. Afterwards, we went to Sparky, where my first girl kept pestering me to take her and her friend. I was tempted, but keept remembering the first girl, so when the Dane when home with his girl, went back to Walkabout. Of course, was gone, so ended up at Heart of Darkness.

The girls were the usual mix, some nice, most average, some dogs. However, once very tall and quite stuning girl was there over by the pool table. Estimated her her age to be 30, even accounting for the "look younger than really are" Asain syndrone. Started chatting her up and we seemed to hit if off quite well. Asked her if she would go back with me to my hotel, and she agreed, but we had to leave seperatly, since she did not go with men!

Turns out, she is a mid-size business owner, and had not been with a man for quite some time! I knew something was a bit of a departure than normal when she followed me in her late model car. Turns out she is in her mid-forties, about six years older than I am. But, the body and the desire were that of a 30 year old, or younger. I have since then stayed with her, with mid-afternoon rendouvous when she can get away from work. Do not mind the age at all, since with that age comes a lean, hard body, soft in all the right places. Very responsive to every touch and feel. Besides the bedsport, she can speak good English (and German/France) so is fun to be with outside of bed. Already have seen a bit of Cambodia off the beaten path, so am enjoying every minute of it.

Am having to be careful with her feelings, for I know that she has been ill used in the past. On the second night I ended up holding her for awhile as she from events in the past. She was married to a jelouse German for a few years, but that did not work out. I thought that prehaps the money for her business came from the German, but no, she had that all before that. She is old enough to have been a teenager during the Khmer Rouge, but when I asked about it, she did not want to talk about it. Do not blame her, and that may be the source of her heartwounds, but really do not know. A lost baby could also be another cause. In any case, found a real special lady, and will do my best to keep her happy these next few days. Am worried about getting too deep, but am being careful. More concerned about her heart than mine, althrough my heart could become captured if not careful. Not sure if that would be a bad thing or a good thing.

Virgo
11-26-03, 18:56
Hello fellows,

Newbie on board. Longtime sexpot short time, part time mongerer. Cage Monkey whats up? Any more to your story? Sounds like a good read.

Plugger
12-11-03, 09:15
Be extra carefull in Cambodia boys, apparently they have the highest growing rate of HIV infections in Asia. Party hard, but play it safe.

Kuranyi
01-04-04, 08:10
I want to go to Cambodia by bus or train in the next days.

Can anybody give me infos how to get best to PP via Poipet?

Dinghy
01-04-04, 17:59
Kur - as soon as you cross the border you will be inundated with so many touts you won't need to look far (no trains yet unless they opened the line in the past few weeks - but there was talk they planned train service all the way from BKK)

Kuranyi
01-20-04, 11:48
after 2 days in pp i have enough of it and leave as fast as i can back to ihailand. there is no order here. one member said that it is better to rent a motorbike and not to go with the mototaxi drivers. i tried it and after about 200m from my hotel the police stopped me and asked me for 5$ for being a foreigner. and there is about every 500m a policeman waiting for you. so far about that bullshit. martini and sharkey are the only places which are o.k. because most of the girls are not forced or sold into prostitution. most of the other places like the local brothels are horrible. there are many girls at the age of 15 or even younger sold to the brothel and work there for 50$ a month. and nobody cares!

cambodia is not a place for mongering except you are ****. this country makes me sad and i am on holiday to have a good time.

The Lizard
01-21-04, 14:26
kuranyi,

this with the motorbikes is correct. sure there is no law in cambodia. the whole fuckin' country is criminal.

but your story about ****s and **** is -excuse me- bullshit.

Plugger
01-22-04, 07:36
lizard,

i wouldn't say his story is entirely bullshit. according to the un, cambodia has the highest rate of sex slaves amongst prostitutes anywhere in the world. hundreds of young girls are sold, kidnapped or simply stolen from their families to feed the appetite of padophiles. why do you think most padophiles in asia go to cambodia? it's not just coincidence.

sure not all the girls are forced into it. but apparently, it's fair to say that the majority are. i would much rather go to a country where you don't have to think about whether the girl is ****d, and whether she's forced to do it.

to those of you who think that forcing a unwilling girl especially young girls to have sex, is a turn on, well you're just sick. and i hope the law catches up to you sooner rather than later.

The Lizard
01-24-04, 09:47
Thank you, Mrs. Plugger for your good, interesting and "true" opinion.

Please continue your good work and investigations and spread it around the world, that's what Cambodia needs.

Sainter
01-24-04, 12:48
Agree with you Plugger. Why do you think that pervert Gary Glitter lives in Cambodia now? What a sad discrace to mankind!

DownUnder
01-24-04, 15:59
Anybody catch the Dateline NBC report on TV the other night ?? It was sickening to see that girls aged as young as 7 or 8 are being being preyed apon. It was so funny how that nailed people with their hidden cameras. I've never been to Cam, don't think I will until things get cleaned up.

SDcruiser
01-24-04, 18:18
i saw some of it. i'm pissed that they would do advertise something like that. i think it would create more traffic looking for those poor little girls.

i think the pimps are the worst, because they are peddling their own people. the ****phils are sickies that can't help themselves and need to be locked away for ever - no parole. the pimps and mamasans need to be executed, publicly.

cruiser

Opebo
01-24-04, 18:49
downunder,

cambodia isn't so bad. its possible to find plenty of girls 18 and older. though admittedly there's always the likelihood they'll falsify charges against you by claiming she's young, as most girls don't have proper i.d. of course keep in mind that age isn't really the issue. prostitution at any age is illegal everywhere, and the authorities are always out to get all sex tourists. i'm sure the christian ngo's would like to see you locked up nearly as much as these other fellows who's tastes are a little further outside the pale. keep in mind, both you and the **** are 'sinners', and outside the pale - you're just very slightly less beyond the pale than him, according to the moralizers. but these religious types will get around to stopping your fun as well, soon enough.

sdcruiser,

one thing to remember about the under-18 sex trade in cambodia - the vast majority of the customers for young girls are actual cambodians (kmer). as far as sex tourists, the great majority who come there to look for younger providers are from asian countries, such as japan, taiwan, and china. no one seems to care a bit about this local and asian trade - only about the white sex tourist. the ngo's and crusading journalists are out to get the european and american punter. its much more about controlling the first-world male than about any geniune concern for the young sex workers. these people really get steamed at the thought of 'exploitation' - aka a white male enjoying himself. as soon as they're through with these ****s they'll be along to collect the rest of us.

Plugger
01-24-04, 23:47
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The Lizard
01-26-04, 15:38
Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding women for sex.

Please refrain from posting personal attacks, or from engaging in discussions of subjects such as race, religion, politics, etc. except as it may specifically and directly apply to the subject of this Forum.

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If you should observe reports that constitute or include a personal attack, DO NOT RESPOND TO THE POSTER, even if you are the subject of the attack. All you will be doing when you respond to a personal attack is ensuring that your carefully typed response will be deleted along with the original report.

Instead, simply use the "Report this post to a moderator" link at the bottom of the report to send me an email alerting me of the problem, and I will take the appropriate action, which usually means that I will remove the entire report as I have so obviously done here.

Thank You,

Jackson

Virgo
03-16-04, 18:33
I tried this in Thailand section also.

Did any of you guys take any anti-malarials for your Cambodia trips? If yes, in Bangkok or your home country? Will be there in May for Angkor, Pnom, Sihanouk. Let's grab a brew!

Garotoz
05-30-04, 19:04
Fellows:

As an American, can I get a Visa in the airport in PP as described in the earlier reports?

Thanks.

Garotoz

Ljohnson
05-31-04, 19:07
Garotoz-

Yes. Before you leave for Cambodia, be sure you have 2 passport photos of yourself and $20 USD. When you arrive you will be required to submit one or both of the photos, fill out some forms and pay the $20. You wukk be given your visa (in your passport.) Then, you will pass through customs as in any other country. I went through this process last month on my first visit there.

When you exit the country you will have to pay $25 USD, so have that with you (in USD cash) when you return to the airport.

I know a good moto driver (Neak Yorn) if you need one. See the Classified Section of this forum (Asia section, Cambodia.)

Enjoy.

LJ

Intransit
06-09-04, 06:55
from the new york times

june 8, 2004

u.s. is pursuing americans who commit sex crimes overseas
by eric lichtblau and james dao
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/08/national/08mole.html?hp=&pagewanted=print&position=

washington, june 7 — one suspect was a convicted **** from
baltimore accused of molesting boys in two asian countries.
another was a doctor from georgia who the russian police said
drugged his young victims in a st. petersburg hotel. a third was
a retired army sergeant from seattle who may have molested up to
50 children.

the three men would once have almost certainly fallen outside
the grasp of united states prosecutors. but with the long arm of
american law growing ever longer, all three could face
significant prison sentences in the united states because of a
measure passed by congress last year that gives federal
officials much more power to prosecute people suspected of
molesting children on foreign soil. officials have already used
their expanded authority to prosecute five american men, four of
whom are awaiting trial. dozens more investigations are under
way from sri lanka to costa rica.

american officials are hoping their investigations will help
break what they believe are shadowy internet networks used by
****s to share photographs of children and travel tips
about countries with thriving child sex industries.

but so far, prosecutions under the new law have focused on
people who traveled on their own.

the initiative dovetails with two priorities for the bush
administration: adopting a more aggressive agenda abroad to
protect american interests at home and attacking what president
bush has called the "special evil" of **** and
exploitation. in the process, federal officials have forged an
alliance with humanitarian groups in exposing havens for
so-called sex tourists.

"we're no longer having to fight alone on this," said joseph
mettimano, child protection policy adviser for a christian-based
group called world vision. "we have a very active and very
engaged government power working with us now."

but that new power is also prompting debate in federal courts
and in public policy circles over how far the united states can
and should go to combat child exploitation abroad.

some critics of the initiative, including defense lawyers and
law professors, question why, at a time of pressing
counterterrorism needs at home, investigators from the
department of homeland security are using scarce resources to go
after molesters abroad. others accuse the bush administration
and congress of overreaching by seeking to create what amounts
to a global police presence. "what we're seeing is the
ever-expanding authority of the federal government in the
criminal justice arena," said mike filipovic, a public defender
in seattle who represents michael l. clark, the former sergeant
picked up in cambodia.

"stopping child abuse is a laudable goal, but it's really
somewhat patronizing to these other countries to say that we
feel that the only way to solve this problem is for us to do it
for you," mr. filipovic said. "the issue here is should our
government be able to prosecute our citizens for acts committed
anywhere in the world?"

some child-advocacy groups estimate that as many as 25 percent
of all sex tourists abroad come from the united states. although
the data is inexact, americans who have sex with children abroad
are thought to number in the thousands, with hard-core
****s, casual tourists and business people taking advantage
of lax enforcement, child advocacy groups and american officials
say.

indeed, some countries in southeast asia and latin america are
now seen as havens for molesters, turning a blind eye or even
tacitly welcoming such tourists to promote their economies,
experts say. against that backdrop, agents for the bureau of
immigration and customs enforcement, within the department of
homeland security, have mounted an aggressive effort with their
new power. investigations number in the dozens, officials said,
with targets in cambodia, the philippines, thailand, sri lanka,
india, russia, mexico, costa rica and elsewhere.

american agents are careful to open investigations only with the
cooperation of host countries, said michael j. garcia, who
oversees immigration and customs enforcement. in cambodia, for
instance, the police have in several cases charged americans
under local ordinances, then held them for extradition in close
coordination with american officials.

and in the washington suburbs, several analysts at the
immigration agency's cybercrimes unit now peruse the internet
and follow tips about sex tourism networks abroad.

the government's expanded legal authority to pursue molesters
abroad comes as part of a 2003 federal law known as the protect
act, a package of child-protection measures best known for the
creation of the amber alert for missing children. a more obscure
provision eliminated an obstacle for prosecutors seeking charges
against americans accused of molesting children abroad.

previously, prosecutors had to prove that a suspect left the
united states "for the purpose" of molesting a child, a standard
that authorities said made it almost impossible to bring
charges. the protect act eliminated that and imposed a 30-year
sentence for a conviction.

"the big change here," said charles a. ray, the american
ambassador to cambodia, "is that we can actually take aggressive
action against these people and see results."

mr. clark, who lived in cambodia for about five years before his
arrest and had returned occasionally to seattle, is the first to
challenge the new law. according to the criminal complaint
against mr. clark, he told investigators that he had molested
"approximately 40 to 50 children, stating that some of them may
have been 18 years old." he was charged with molesting two boys
and pleaded guilty to the charges in march. but he also argued
that the legal expansion was unconstitutional and an abuse of
congress' authority to regulate commerce.

on april 26 a federal judge in seattle upheld the
constitutionality of the law, saying congress had acted within
its power. mr. clark is to be sentenced june 25 but may still
appeal the ruling.

american officials acknowledge that privately, some countries
remain wary of working so closely with united states agencies.
but so far, american officials say, foreign nations have been
largely receptive.

cambodia, in particular, is considered "a paradise" for foreign
****s, said aarti kapoor, a lawyer with a cambodia-based
group that assists prostitutes and abuse victims. many residents
are young and impoverished, the country's judicial system is
prone to bribery and corruption and neighboring thailand- also a
favorite destination for sex tourists - has cracked down on the
sex trade, ms. kapoor said. "u.s. law enforcement represents the
only hope of finding justice," she said.

federal officials point to richard arthur schmidt as just the
kind of person that the new law was intended to snare.

mr. schmidt, 61, is a former schoolteacher from the baltimore
area who was repeatedly arrested in the mid-1980's for abusing
boys.

in 1987, mr. schmidt was sentenced to an 18-year prison term
after being convicted of multiple counts of sexually abusing a
12-year-old boy in baltimore, court records show. he served 13
years, spending part of that time enrolled in a sex-offender
program, officials said.

in 2000, he was released early for good behavior and settled in
an upscale neighborhood in north baltimore. but in 2003, state
investigators said that he had tried to take pornographic
photographs of two boys in the baltimore area, state officials
said. a warrant for his arrest was issued, but he fled, first to
north carolina and then to the philippines.

last year, the philippine police arrested mr. schmidt and
charged him with having sex with **** boys. he fled again,
this time to cambodia. and within weeks, he was again spotted
having liaisons with young boys.

this time, workers with private child welfare organizations
spotted mr. schmidt taking a cambodian boy to his apartment in
phnom penh. according to court papers, the workers called the
cambodian police, who arrested mr. schmidt. cambodian officials
notified american investigators, who interviewed mr. schmidt him
and began building a case for his indictment in the united
states.

two cambodian brothers, ages 10 and 13, told investigators that
mr. schmidt had taken them to his apartment several times,
teaching them english and computer games, then photographing
them naked in the shower. a cambodian judge released mr. schmidt
last dec. 25, but confirep001ed his passport and placed him on
police watch.

two days later, a social worker with a french group, action for
the children, saw mr. schmidt check into a guesthouse with a
12-year-old boy, officials said. the social worker, who had been
tailing mr. schmidt, called the police, who arrested mr. schmidt
again. the boy later told investigators that mr. schmidt had
sodomized him.

mr. schmidt was returned to baltimore in february to face
charges under the protect act and is in jail awaiting trial. his
lawyer could not be reached for comment.

one group, the international justice mission, has investigators
who build cases against suspected offenders, then turn the
evidence over to law enforcement officials. the group has also
been training cambodian police in collecting evidence that can
be used in american courts.

another group, world vision, serves as a clearinghouse for tips
on foreign sexual predators and has mounted a $2-million
advertising campaign, financed in part by the state department,
to warn americans against committing sexual offenses abroad. the
group plans campaigns in thailand and costa rica, and with
billboards near the airport in phnom penh and elsewhere in
cambodia.

"abuse a child in this country," reads one poster, "go to jail
in yours."

Lover Boy
08-29-04, 05:25
Did anyone see the real sex pervert Dr. Moron from U.S who likes to screw girls as young as 5 yrs old. Damm, this blows mind mind away.

Anyway, he was on MSNNBC news today & he will be in slammer house as soon as he gets back here as per Dept. Of Justice.

LOS Traveller
08-31-04, 04:45
Lover Boy,

Could you provide additional information to support your post? None of the sources I monitor confirm that any new reports or information was presented regarding "Dr Moron" -- which I am assuming is Dr. Jerry Albom.

I can't find anything from MSNBC about any NEW broadcasts since the main January airings of this report. No other news service worldwide is reporting anything; even the "DOJ" is not showing any new info.

And if it is the January reports that perhaps you watched a repeat of, you might want to know that a reporter mentioned that there were "girls as young as 5" -- Albom was clear in his preferences and this age group was not part of it.

My main source for the above quotes are: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4038265/

I've followed this entire situation for some time -- which is why your post surprised me so much. I don't support his actions, but I also do not support accusing someone inaccurately.

As of now, Dr Albom has NOT been charged in ANY jurisdiction in the world.

JACKSON: I know you don't support this topic, but I think the initial post was both inaccurate and unfair.

Passport #2
10-28-04, 01:03
i first visited cambo via the hat lek - koh kong border about 2 1/2 years ago. once back in thailand i noticed the expired "stick on" cambodia via was peeling back on one corner and attracting lint and such, so i peeled it off. i returned to cambodia 6 month later, and again once back in thailand i peeled off the expired visa freeing up more room in my passport.

the next time i went to the hat lek - koh kong border i applied for a cambodian visa to enter and was refused. the cambodian immigration officer noticed the cambodian stamps that were left in my passport and said i had broken immigration law by removing the previous expired visas and hostilely sent me away.

i was able to get a visa at the cambo embassy in bkk. when i presented it at the border, the officers were not pleased but they let me through after about 20 mins. of discussion. i had the impression that if they turned me away it would have caused loss of face to the bkk embassy. now i always get my visa at the embassy before i hit the border. now i sail right through and i am charged to correct fee for the visa.

take care,

pass

Concarne
05-08-05, 16:16
Hi,

How long does it take for you to get the Cambo visa at the BKK consulate? Days, hours?

TIA

Tazzy Devil
05-11-05, 06:14
To save time it is a lot easier to get the visa at the Cambodian border crossings
$20 USD for a 1 month tourist visa & $25 USD for a business visa. Visa's only take about 10 - 15 minutes to process at the border.


Hi,

How long does it take for you to get the Cambo visa at the BKK consulate? Days, hours?

TIA

Johnson45
05-21-05, 19:00
Is it true you can legally smoke pot in Cambodia. What about Laos and Burma.

Shadow6491
05-24-05, 07:42
No! Get caught by a policeman that needs some money (read all of them) and it will cost you.

Yes, the have pizza shops with herb.

Yes, you can buy it all over the place.

Yes, you can by it from cops.

Yes it is illegal.

Concarne
06-14-05, 23:39
Hi everyone!

I have read all your comments with interest, thank you all for your contributions!

This is the year when I finally hit Cambodia. I have a fair amount of info and I have developed a plan:

I will come through the LOS border and spend 2 days in the border town, down to Snooky for 2days and then bus to PP for a few days.

I have two questions:

1- Is it worth it to hire a driver or moto dude to show me around for a couple of days in PP? I think I know where all the major spots are based on what I have read here but I would like to visit some of the less well travelled bars/barbershops. Not necessarily to partake (although I plan on it) but I do like exploring.

2- Are there other cities/towns nearby (3-4hr) away from PP that one can go to where action may be found?

Thanks in advance!

Montecristo
06-24-05, 12:06
Hello,

I would like to know, how much will cost me a trip to Camboja, from Bangkok ?

And about the travelling time, how much hours is to go to Phnom Phen, and Siam Rep?

Thanks in advance!

Montecristo

Run Mann
06-24-05, 19:06
Check out these links http://www.thaiair.com/ and for info on Cambodia http://www.canbypublications.com/



Hello,

I would like to know, how much will cost me a trip to Camboja, from Bangkok ?

And about the travelling time, how much hours is to go to Phnom Phen, and Siam Rep?

Thanks in advance!

Montecristo

Girlfinder
06-26-05, 16:28
Web-fare is 4000 Baht each way on www.bangkokair.com

Asian Rain
06-26-05, 18:25
Cheapest option is President Airlines. Daily flight at THB6,500 return - just call them directly and they will make a booking same price as any travel agent. Only THB6,000 if you get a last minute ticket at the airport - any weekday except Friday and you will be guaranteed a seat. I have used them and the service was reliable and friendly - you even get an in-flight meal and drinks. Woo-hoo! Most importantly, you will save enough money compared to Thai Air and Bangkok Air to afford another 4-10 ST girls at Martini.

Check out the website at: http://www.presidentairlines.com

Enjoy, AR+


Hello,

I would like to know, how much will cost me a trip to Camboja, from Bangkok ?

And about the travelling time, how much hours is to go to Phnom Phen, and Siam Rep?

Thanks in advance!

Montecristo

Ljohnson
07-01-05, 02:26
Asia Rain and others,

I will arrive in BKK on July 16 around 10:30 pm, will overnight in Bangkok and want to fly to PNH the next day (the 17th - a Sunday.) Will I be able to get my ticket (for the next day) from Presidnt Airlines at the airport when I am there at 11:00 or 11:30 pm on Saturday night? Or even on Sunday morning the 17th? How can I be assured there will be a flight and a seat?

The President Air website seems out of date (they only have their winter 2004 schedule) and they do not respond to my emails.

Thanks,

LJ

Cali Dude 1
07-01-05, 03:01
Well if your life insurance is paid in full,be my guest,and fly President.They got the crappist Russian fleet around.They load you in this un-airconed former crop duster/tuna can,and you wait in this Russian coffin till take-off.

Finally,comes the relief at altitude, the cold outside air cools the interior.

Cramped seats and a bad scedule,they only fly on certain day of the week.

I flew in on President,but I left on Bangkok Air.My life was easily worth the extra few baht.

Asian Rain
07-01-05, 11:01
LJ, You can easily get a ticket at the airport on Sunday morning. Just go to thier counter in Terminal 2 two hours before the flight. If you are terribly worried about not getting a seat, you can call them directly in BKK (website number) from wherever you are and get a reservation. AR+

The post of CaliDude1 is correct in that the PA fleet is old, the seats are cramped, the plane was very hot until the aircon kicks in after takeoff and the flight schedule is not daily. However, I should point out the FACTS on the following points: Safety = PA has never crashed. Price = You will save at least 3,000 bhat, not a few bhat. AR+


Well if your life insurance is paid in full,be my guest,and fly President.They got the crappist Russian fleet around.They load you in this un-airconed former crop duster/tuna can,and you wait in this Russian coffin till take-off.

Cramped seats and a bad scedule,they only fly on certain day of the week.

I flew in on President,but I left on Bangkok Air.My life was easily worth the extra few baht.

Girlfinder
07-02-05, 06:23
I would try www.bangkokair.com, look at the promotions which says 3 international coupons each USD 80 + tax :( (Domestic only USD 50)

So I guess you can go from BKK to Cambodia, then to Vietnam or Laos, and return to BKK for USD 240. Have to order by phone.

Good luck,

Samu Ray
07-02-05, 11:37
There is carrier that operates from Thailand to China, HK, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Macau and, I think, soon, Cambodia and Vietnam!

999BHT or $25. www.airasia.com

I got to Saigon this afternoon, rode the bus, $9. It took over six hours, including time spent at the Cambodia-Vietnam border.

Ljohnson
07-06-05, 00:55
Girlfinder,

Thanks for the tip. Using the Bangkok Air promotion, I was able to get tickets from BKK to Phnom Penh and back, and also BKK to Chiang Mai and back for $260 plus tax ($305 total.) When you consider that Thai Air charges $310 just for BKK-PNH-BKK, this is a good deal.

LJohnson

Ljohnson
07-09-05, 20:46
So here's my Cambo schedule:

I arrive in PP on the afternoon of the 17th. My driver, Neak Yorn, will pick me up at the airport. We'll head to a pharmacy and load up on lo-cost V (either the Kamagra or Zeagra; whatever they have) and then to my hotel (Calif II.) Hope to do a late afternoon quickie, have some dinner, then go out on the prowl to find my lady for the evening. Will likely hit Sharky's, maybe Martini's, a lady house or two.

Next morning I'm headed to Sihanoukville for the day. Business associates are having a beach party so I'll do the party thing during the day. At the end of the day I'll remain in Snookville for 2-3 hours to sample the local delights. I am open to advice re how and where in this beach town I can get the most "bang" (or BJ or whatever) for my US bucks.

Then I hope to get to PP in time for one more girl for the night. More business the morning of the 19th; maybe one more little lady and then back to BKK in the afternoon.

Advice re an evening in Sihanoukville is welcome.

Thanks,

LJohnson

Tazzy Devil
07-10-05, 08:19
So here's my Cambo schedule:

I arrive in PP on the afternoon of the 17th. My driver, Neak Yorn, will pick me up at the airport. We'll head to a pharmacy and load up on lo-cost V (either the Kamagra or Zeagra; whatever they have) and then to my hotel (Calif II.) Hope to do a late afternoon quickie, have some dinner, then go out on the prowl to find my lady for the evening. Will likely hit Sharky's, maybe Martini's, a lady house or two.

Next morning I'm headed to Sihanoukville for the day. Business associates are having a beach party so I'll do the party thing during the day. At the end of the day I'll remain in Snookville for 2-3 hours to sample the local delights. I am open to advice re how and where in this beach town I can get the most "bang" (or BJ or whatever) for my US bucks.

Then I hope to get to PP in time for one more girl for the night. More business the morning of the 19th; maybe one more little lady and then back to BKK in the afternoon.

Advice re an evening in Sihanoukville is welcome.

Thanks,

LJohnsonFor an afternoon delight head up to Blue Mountain ST is only $5.00
If walking head up Sopheakmongkol St to Omui St Turn right & walk 100-150 meters there is a sign on the top side of the road with "Rainbow Guesthouse" walk up the dirt track about 50 meters on the right hand side you will see the girls just inside the gate. Have a beer or softdrink & see what is available.

Rooms are clean but fan only.

Further along Omui Street is Rosies (you will need a motodope as it is a fair way to walk) been there a couple of times but girls dont seem interested, was $8 for a ST. Further along Omui St past Rosies is the Ginger Bread House. Similar to Rosies with a few cuties but price goes up ST was $8 ++ but better rooms.

Chicken farm at the port is dirty & grotty, could never see the point of saving $1 then spend $50 on penacillin.

Freelance girls get about of an evening, try Fishermans Den, Freedom Bar, G'Day Mate, $20 LT not sure about ST price

Ljohnson
07-11-05, 02:36
Tazzy D-

Thank you. Exactly the info I was seeking.

LJohnson

Griep
08-20-05, 00:26
Hi guys,

Been several times to Phnom Penh, but used a real ATM on my trip a few weeks ago! Wow. Cambodia was supposed to be the only country left on earth without ATM's, but it really worked and gave US Dollars.

Maybe no news for some of you, but for me it was.

Last year I saw an ATM already though, but it was only for local bank cards, but now it had the labels of "Cirrus" and "Maestro".

So no need any more to carry lots of cash with you! I used the ATM at Soraya shopping mall (the big one near Central Market), but I also saw ATM's at the Riverside.

Fast Eddie 48
08-20-05, 22:24
Hi guys,

Been several times to Phnom Penh, but used a real ATM on my trip a few weeks ago! Wow. Cambodia was supposed to be the only country left on earth without ATM's, but it really worked and gave US Dollars.

Maybe no news for some of you, but for me it was.

Last year I saw an ATM already though, but it was only for local bank cards, but now it had the labels of "Cirrus" and "Maestro".

So no need any more to carry lots of cash with you! I used the ATM at Soraya shopping mall (the big one near Central Market), but I also saw ATM's at the Riverside.Griep,

I think Naga Casino in Phnom Penh cashier have a ATM or a Visa advanced machine. they also have a foriegn currency exchange service. It is a good idea to bring alot of US currency in small bills. 1 or 5 dollar is good. Thai Baht is good. Also 20 baht for moto driver for short trip. There is not too many bank in Cambodia, there are more at Siem Riep because of more tourist. Most major hotel can also exhange money for their guest. There is no need for you to change to Riel the Cambodia currency as long you have US dollar.

Fast Eddie 48

Johnson994
08-26-05, 00:12
How easy is it to have sex with out condom in Cambodia?

Qualo
08-26-05, 12:31
It is extremely hard to find any girls that will go bare back in Cambodia.

(actually that's a lie- I'd just rather you didn't spead diseases/viruses there, it's certainly the norm to rubber up, but I'm sure you'll find an eneducated innocent poor girl to prey on who'd be willing to risk her life for an extra tip)

Waffles
09-03-05, 23:33
Could someone tell me where the international / Cirrus ATM machine is? It would be a blessing for Phnom Penh to have one.

I had the honor of using the first international ATM machine in Laos about 6 months ago. It gave a good exchange rate and was associated with a bank in Hanoi.

Run Mann
09-04-05, 04:20
Why would you want to do that in Cambodia? Check out the lastest stats on HIV/AIDS rate in Cambodia. They have a severe HIV/AIDS epedemic in Cambodia. Have fun, but be safe
http://www.jfpr-hiv.org/CambodiaProgram.htm#Severe%20HIV%20Epidemic and http://www.amfar.org/cgi-bin/iowa/asia/aids/index.html?record=5






How easy is it to have sex with out condom in Cambodia?

Johnson994
09-05-05, 18:35
Why would you want to do that in Cambodia? Check out the lastest stats on HIV/AIDS rate in Cambodia. They have a severe HIV/AIDS epedemic in Cambodia. Have fun, but be safe
http://www.jfpr-hiv.org/CambodiaProgram.htm#Severe%20HIV%20Epidemic and http://www.amfar.org/cgi-bin/iowa/asia/aids/index.html?record=5I guess it is too late. I allready went there for a week and had bare back vaginal sex with about 20 different prostitutes.

Run Mann
09-05-05, 20:05
So what was the point of asking a question you already knew the answer to?


I guess it is too late. I allready went there for a week and had bare back vaginal sex with about 20 different prostitutes.

Johnson994
09-05-05, 23:14
So what was the point of asking a question you already knew the answer to?When I asked the question it was 2 days before I was going to Cambodia.

Run Mann
09-06-05, 10:46
Yikes! You had condomless vaginal sex with 20 girls in Cambodia in about a week? You're either very brave, very foolish or have a death wish.


When I asked the question it was 2 days before I was going to Cambodia.

Intransit
10-09-05, 04:49
Brothers,

Totally off the subject, I thought this might be of interest to some of you with intentions of going to Cambodia for scuba diving.

Anyway, I had an e-mail exchange with a dive operator in Sihanoukville regarding rumors of a downed, Vietnam War-era US helicopter several hours' boat ride away. He said that there is no such helicopter, despite the persistent rumors, and that most wrecks in the area are salvaged for scrap. So, if any of you had the idea of doing this, you may wish to give it up, although I'd be interested if any of you have info to the contrary.

Mastorr
10-19-05, 17:35
Hello,

Planning to travel to Pnom Penh in November but in order to enter to Camboya it is necessary to get a tourist visa.

After reading different informations I have doubts if the visa can be available upon arrival directly in the airport or is necessary to get it in Cambodia embassy.

If I'm not wrong, to get a tourist visa is necessary:

- 20/25 $
- Form
- Passport
- 1 Photo

Departure tax 28$

Any info ?

Thanks,

Shamas
10-20-05, 05:46
Most people arriving at PNH can get their visa at the airport. I'm a US citizen, flew in from BKK, presented my US passport with extra passport photos to a gaggle of officials at a counter. A minute later I was paged at the far end of the counter, upped the $20, got my passport with visa glued in. Painless, but I wasn't too thrilled about letting my passport out of my sight but that's how they do it.

Went through immigrations, claimed my bag, customs was a wave through. Trotted out and got a taxi to my hotel.

Departure - came in at the far end of the airport, just after I enter they did a suito search of my luggage and put a shipping type of heavy plastic band around each of my bags. Turned out they should have only done the bag I was going to check in, not my carry on.

Checked in at the BKKairline desk, followed the signs and walked right past the departure tax windows. "edit" I made it up a few step and was quickly turned around by a helpful government tour guide who directed me back to the departure tax window. I think it was $28, anyways, it was way too much. Up the steps, did a hook back and went through the carry on luggage check.

If you're flying BKKair, they have a great lounge for all passangers, it's at the far end, right next to the Ankor Wat Bar.

Don't worry, you will not miss any of the opportunities to help support the Khmer government, they will gladly point out each tourist pay spot in the airport. :-)

If you're not from the US, check on the web and see if your home country has any special requirements.

Shamas

Nite_Runner
10-20-05, 06:54
Most people arriving at PNH can get their visa at the airport. I'm a US citizen, flew in from BKK, presented my US passport with extra passport photos to a gaggle of officials at a counter. A minute later I was paged at the far end of the counter, upped the $20, got my passport with visa glued in. Painless, but I wasn't too thrilled about letting my passport out of my sight but that's how they do it.

Went through immigrations, claimed my bag, customs was a wave through. Trotted out and got a taxi to my hotel.

Departure - came in at the far end of the airport, just after you enter they did a suito search of my luggage and put a shipping type of heavy plastic band around each of my bags. Turned out they should have only done the bag I was going to check in, not my carry on.

Checked in at the BKKairline desk, followed the signs and walked right past the departure tax windows. I think it was $28, anyways, it was way too much. Up the steps, did a hook back and went through the carry on luggage check.

If you're flying BKKair, they have a great lounge for all passangers, it's at the far end, right next to the Ankor Wat Bar.

Don't worry, you will not miss any of the opportunities to help support the Khmer government, they will gladly point out each tourist pay spot in the airport. :-)

If you're not from the US, check on the web and see if your home country has any special requirements.

Shamas


Shamas -

Am I to understand that you got out of Cambo w/out paying the departure tax? Your posts leads me to beleive that you were sucessful in bypassing this fee. Did I misread?

n_r

Mastorr
10-20-05, 10:10
Thank you Shamas, good report.

I'm from Europe and I'll fly with Thai Airways (Bkk-Pnh / Pnh-Bkk).

You said " presented my US passport with extra passport photos",

How many photos do you need?

Shamas
10-20-05, 15:01
Thanks for catching my error, we don't need any confusion, especially when it comes to departing. I just edited my entry, You have three chances of not paying your departure tax, Fat Chance, Slim Chance and No Chance.

I didn't realize they had a departure tax, especially considering they had a $20 entry fee. Only place I've ever been that hits you up for so much coming and going.

The departure tax windows were on the right side (same side as the air line counters) just before you go up the steps to the departure gates.

Shamas

Gene Pitney
10-22-05, 14:15
just a thought on passport photos;

Before I came to live in thailand I got a number of passport photos to bring with me as they are needed regularly while traveling in se asia for visas. However, I came to find out that one does not need a "passport" photo, only a small very inexpensive photo of a head shot (and preferably where the head is the main body of the picture).

In thailand (and probably many malls around asia) one can get these extremely cheap at little photo booths that the kids use to get fun pictures of themselves and their friends. Stock up on a lot at one time if you want. After a couple of times of doing expensive photo shop photos I later started doing the cheap photos and bulldog clip a plastic bag with about 20 of them to the back of my passport so they are always handy to use.

Gene Pitney
10-22-05, 14:26
my two cents on girls in cambo using condoms;

While many have condoms my exp has been that very very few use them consisitently. It is almost as if they carry them because they feel the foriegner expects them. Those that had concerns about condoms expressed that the concern was centered around about getting pregnant.

Even in Thailand, where I live, many girls in BKK or pattaya do not use condoms consistently. A close buddy of mine who lives in thailand and does about 4 times the mongering that I do (do to his resources) talked about thai girls and condoms. I asked him how many girls, in his opinion, don't use condoms consistently, 50%? "oh no, " he replied. "a lot more than that. "

Firedick
10-22-05, 20:56
Don Muang Airport( BKK) has a little cheapie photo booth upstairs (can't remember if terminal 1 or 2), for those who might have forgotten to get it done ahead of time.

FD

Dinghy
10-22-05, 21:37
Shamas - don't confuse the $25 (28?) airport usage fee with the $20 visa fee. They have nothing to do with each other except that you will PAY for the visa and PAY to FLY out - I left by boat from Snooky - no fee to leave nor a fee to enter Thailand. I think they record your name (at departure customs) for when and if the boat sinks. You WILL, however, pay 500B to leave BKK airport by air - unless you go domestic then it's 100B, I think, and part of your ticket (domestic terminal).

As near as I can tell, the airport usage fee actually goes to the airport.

Mastor - they wanted ONE photo (I thought it was 2, but they only took 1) - I had printed a sheet off my photo printer so I had many

Shamas
10-24-05, 02:54
I wonder how much of the airport usage fee goes to the "other side of the airport", not much the way it looks.

Like you said, it doesn't matter if it's a tax or usage fee, you still have to pay it to fly out.

Considering how poor the place is the departure fee is being put to good use. The air port and runways are in pretty good shape.

Shamas O'D

Drjoker69
10-30-05, 23:33
you know,

i'm going to be politically incorrect here, so if you are a bible-thumping ngo or one of the lemmings who follow them or the media, then please don't read any further.

personally, i don't like the younger girls because they don't know what the heck they're doing. i punt to have fun, not teach a sex ed class! lol !!!

however, i don't think that the "****s" are all bad. i mean, my grandfather married my grandmother when she was 16 years old. so, does that make him a ****? before the turn of the century, all the girls married real young to older gentlemen. this is because this was before women's lib and birth control pills. girls married young to avoid teen pregnancy and find a good "provider". guys married older so that he would have built a good career to be a good "provider". the bride was typically 13-18 years old and the guy was usually 10 years older. i don't think that there's anything wrong with having sex with younger girls as long as the girl has already started menstruating.

i think that it's illegal because;
1. the ultra-religious want to assert their power over you and be your big brother.

2. the government want to control the population explosion and assert their power over you and be your big brother.

3. the feminists want to end your fun with young girls so that you'll be forced to be with a *****, er... i mean feminist.

4. the 3rd world crooked cops want to rob, err... i mean "fine" you.

have fun, but play safe (avoid the ****d and unexperienced girls),
drjoker69.


i saw some of it. i'm pissed that they would do advertise something like that. i think it would create more traffic looking for those poor little girls.

i think the pimps are the worst, because they are peddling their own people. the ****phils are sickies that can't help themselves and need to be locked away for ever - no parole. the pimps and mamasans need to be executed, publicly.

cruiser

Al Beach
10-31-05, 17:58
Waffles

Found this info on locations in PP. ANZ also hopes to install some machines in Siem Reap innear future.

ANZ Bank

ATM services are available at the following locations 24 hours 7 days a week including public holidays:

Independence Monument - 100 Preah Sihanouk Boulevard
Olympic Market - 316 & 363 Preah Sihanouk Boulevard
Riverside - 265 Sisowath Quay
Russian Boulevard - 20 Kramuon Sar (corner of street 67)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Canadia Bank

265-269, St. 110
394, Sihanouk

Fast expanding bank with branch offices in 7 cities. First bank with ATM's
accepting international bank debit cards!

Waffles
11-01-05, 17:13
Thanks Al Beach,

I used a bunch of these on my trip last week. They truly work like real 1st world ATM machines. Interesting, when you take out $200 USD it gives you a combination of $50, $20 and $10 notes.

I'm told that for those withdrawing cash from non-USD accounts the conversion rate is poor. For me drawing from a US bank, I merely pay my bank's $1.50 service fee.

Nite_Runner
11-04-05, 03:36
If I may ask - do the ATMs in PP give you the option of distributing local currency vice USD? Or both? For example - In Japan, the ATMs from J banks only give out currecny in Yen. However, various US banks located in Japan have the option of distributing local currency or USD.

N_R


Thanks Al Beach,

I used a bunch of these on my trip last week. They truly work like real 1st world ATM machines. Interesting, when you take out $200 USD it gives you a combination of $50, $20 and $10 notes.

I'm told that for those withdrawing cash from non-USD accounts the conversion rate is poor. For me drawing from a US bank, I merely pay my bank's $1.50 service fee.

Firedick
11-04-05, 03:52
Truely helpful info. One of my biggest grimpes about Cambo has been the lack of ATM's.

Thanks.

FD

Matt Navan Man
11-06-05, 01:39
The conversion rates are set globally by Interchange companys such as Cirrus, Maestro, Link etc. If you have a USD bank account then you draw dollars and there is no exchange rate to worry about. If you're European/Other Foreign you draw dollars but get the same exchange rate from the Cambodian ATM as you would from any ATM in the States.

That the theory at least. No doubt Khmer intuity will find a completely illogical but compelling way to make a few extra bucks soon enough!




I'm told that for those withdrawing cash from non-USD accounts the conversion rate is poor. For me drawing from a US bank, I merely pay my bank's $1.50 service fee.

Chris P
11-09-05, 13:20
Someone in the photo gallery mentioned that there is a higher chance of getting HIV from heterosexual, vaginal sex if you are NOT circumcised. I'm posting here so as not to clog up the gallery: could someone tell me whether this is true? It seems strange - surely there would be an extra "layer of protection", as it were, if you're not circumcised?

I'm European, BTW, and not circumcised. Is there anyone here who has had the snip some time in adult life? Does it affect the sensation during sex after it's been done? And is it considered healthier? If the answer to all of these three things is in the positive, I might consider the mini-guillotine myself :) (unless the procedure itself is extraordinarily painful!)

Member #2041
11-10-05, 03:08
Chris, I'm the one who posted it. The answer, generically, is yes, you have a higher chance of getting HIV if you are uncircumsized. But it's more complex than that.

If you practice good and careful personal hygiene, there is probably very little if any added risk. But the fact is that it's easier to practice good hygiene if you are circumsized than if you are not. What the statistics are probably telling is that more folks who are uncircumcised have lesions on the skin under the forskin due to their hygiene or lack thereof.

Seraphim7
11-10-05, 07:47
Its not just a matter of hygeine. Recently reported research indicates that the lining of the foreskin has extra receptors for the virus - so even clean healthy helmets carry a risk.

Concarne
11-12-05, 02:38
Its not just a matter of hygeine. Recently reported research indicates that the lining of the foreskin has extra receptors for the virus - so even clean healthy helmets carry a risk.Please give us the reference...that sounds unlikely to me given that foreskin is, afterall, skin. The virus requires CD4 receptor (and other) to be able to get into cells. Epithelial (skin) cells do not have it. Now broken skin may.

Coma Boy
11-12-05, 17:30
I guess it is too late. I already went there for a week and had bare back vaginal sex with about 20 different prostitutes.Yep, it is too late.

There are worse ways to commit suicide I guess, just hope you didn't infect too many girls in return. Hopefully you just picked up one of the curable maladies.

Enjoy the antibiotics and good luck with "the" test.


Oh, and here's a link about circumcision and HIV infection:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4371384.stm

Seraphim7
11-12-05, 22:37
Please give us the reference...that sounds unlikely to me given that foreskin is, afterall, skin. The virus requires CD4 receptor (and other) to be able to get into cells. Epithelial (skin) cells do not have it. Now broken skin may.Here is a brief reference:

During 21 months of follow-up, 20 cases of HIV infection occurred in the circumcision group and 49 in the control group, the team reports in the medical journal PLoS Medicine

The researchers suggest several possible ways that circumcision may protect to some extent against HIV infection: "keratinization of the glans when not protected by the foreskin, short drying after sexual contact, reducing the life expectancy of HIV on the penis after sexual contact with an HIV-positive partner, reduction of the total surface of the skin of the penis, and reduction of target cells, which are numerous on the foreskin."

ChillyMonkey
11-21-05, 18:26
Got back home a few weeks ago but went straight into a pretty intense job so I haven’t had time to write a report until now. I learned a lot on this forum to prepare me for Cambodia, so I wanted to give back what I can.

I flew into Bangkok and went straight to the Nana Plaza area. I figured I would get a room at Nana Hotel, but it was all booked up. Went down the street to the Dynasty and got the very last room they had, and it was only available for one night! Needless to say it was really crowded! Technically it was the off season, but I get the feeling there is no such thing in Thai sex destinations any more. That’s a big change from five to eight years ago when I was traveling to South East Asia frequently and lived in the Philippines. Now it is just a crazy, crowded mad house.

I checked into my room and went straight out to Nana Plaza…. And arrived just in time for it to close down! I didn’t know they shut down at 1AM now… that’s lame! There were some touts trying to get people to go to all night bars / sex clubs, but I didn’t go for it.

The next morning I was feeling a bit put off by the state of the Nana Plaza the previous night so I went across the street to a travel agency to check into going to Cambodia for a few days. I figured I’d check Cambodia out a bit, and then come back to Bangkok and Pattaya. The ticket to leave in just a few hours cost $220 RT on Bangkok Air. I think I could have gotten a cheaper one from another carrier, but didn’t feel like investigating as I didn’t even have a hotel for the night.

Bangkok Air is a very nice airline, very modern and has a great change ticket policy (which was important since my three day trip to Phnom Penh turned into two weeks).

First impression of PP is of a standard third world country, with NO traffic laws. I just closed my eyes and hoped for the best during the taxi ride from the airport! By the way, it should cost about $7 for the ride to downtown and you can get a taxi outside the airport (I never get one from the touts inside the airport since it always seems to be twice as expensive for the same thing).

Went straight to the Flamingo’s Hotel. I read some good reports on it so I figured it would be a good first stop. I checked out the rooms and decided on a standard for $20 a night. The Deluxe rooms are $25 and have a king size bed, but are otherwise the same as a standard. The Superior for $30 has a nice big bath tub with a king bed. But the standard was fine for my needs. I was able to get a room even though I didn’t have a reservation. The staff is really friendly and helpful and the hotel is in the perfect location if you are there for the bar scene. They also have a great roof deck that serves barbecue a couple nights a week.

I went to some of the other hotels I have read about in this forum to compare. The California 2 seemed like a friendly enough place, but the rooms a bit rundown and are the same price as Flamingo’s. It’s on the river, so you can get a room with a nice view. But it also tends to be really loud because of traffic too.

The Sakura is far away from all the action and the rooms are no better than Flamingo’s for slightly more money. It does have an onsite “fish bowl” massage parlour, and apparently you can get girls sent up to your room from it. But the quality is pretty bad. I tried one of the girls out (within an hour of arriving in PP :-) and the service was a bit lame too. In my opinion it just wasn’t worth it.

I was worried about how spread out the sex scene is in Phnom Penh. It certainly isn’t as convenient as Pattaya, but it’s not bad either. Motos are everywhere and the tourist price is a dollar for a trip. I have heard you can go cheaper (like 50 to 75 cents), but I didn’t bother haggling. Plus for a little adventure, walking is fine since the city is relatively small.

I really don’t think you need to hire a taxi by the day, like some people recommend. You can get around easy by moto, and there aren’t any really secret spots out there that require a guide. You can just ask around once you arrive, or search through these forums like I did.

My first sex stop after the Sakura was Sophie’s club. This was one of the coolest experiences I’ve had! You walk up a dark, smelly corridor to a grungy doorway. It was locked when I arrived, but when I knocked a girl came to the door. It’s a total hole in the wall with dark lighting and worn furniture. But it is packed with about ten or so girls and before I even made it to a bar stool they were fighting to open my pants to give me a blow job! Once I was sitting I ordered a beer and before it was opened one of the girls had my dick in her mouth. After a little while, it was another girls turn and then another! The deal is that they all want to give you a sample of their skills so you choose to take them into on of the adjoining rooms. It’s a pretty amazing experience to have ten girls fighting to give you a blow job, so I quickly fell in love with this place. I took two girls into a back room and got multiple blow jobs. The looks of the girls here are average at best, but that didn’t bother me since I wasn’t planning on any “boom boom”, just the “yum yum”. It costs $10 per girl to go in the back room, and it’s nice to give $1 tips to all the girls that gave you a sample blow job (although that isn’t mandatory). Luckily for me, I was the only customer in the bar because I don’t know how I would feel about getting a blow job while some stranger was staring at me (someone told me that voyeurs like to hang out here to watch). But it’s a great experience and a must for any trip to PP. I had never been to a blow job bar in Pattaya, but now that will be my first stop next time I’m there!

I also went to Mikado Club, which I had heard was similar to Sophie’s. Mikado has a much nicer interior and there are no public blow jobs. But the girls come right up to you and rub you in all the right places, since they want you to take them up to a room. I decided on two girls again and we went to a nicely appointed room above the bar. It had a bathroom, porn on the tv and mirrors on the ceiling. It was good service and the girls were slightly better looking than Sophie’s. About the same price too. Although I still like Sophie’s best.

I also went to a few brothels in downtown PP that were really nice and had great quality girls. It cost anywhere from $10 to $50 depending on the girl. I have heard there are cheaper places, but the quality of the set up made up for the price. I’m not so into those chicken farm type places (except for the adventure aspect of it) and am willing to pay a little extra for a clean attractive girl in an air conditioned private room. It is pretty well known where these brothels are, but I’ll refrain from mentioning it since apparently there are NGO weenies lurking on these boards looking for places to shut down. The two famous brothel areas just outside of PP were shut down by NGO’s, which bummed me out since I have heard so many cool stories about them.

The famous Heart of Darkness was closed when I was in town for “refurbishment”, but the real reason is that someone was killed there after an altercation a while ago.

The Butterfly bar down the street has taken up the slack from the closing of the Heart of Darkness. It’s packed after midnight! It has a disco downstairs and an open bar with pool table upstairs. There are tons of freelancers there late at night but can get so packed you can’t even see who is available. Plus you have to be careful not to piss off the wrong person…..

I spent a lot of time at Shanghai Bar, my favorite place in Phnom Penh. The girls are pretty and nice and it’s just a good place to hang out. You can bar fine girls here for $5. Never asked how much the girls would charge you for a night but I would imagine about $20? I have a feeling some of the girls wouldn’t even do it though unless they actually were into the guy. Or maybe I'm naive.....

You can also pick up girls from any bar in town. Sharky’s and Walkabout are packed with freelancers, but I never tried this out. I just enjoyed the brothels and Sophie’s and never really felt like taking a girl back to my room with me. In my opinion, the girls I found in Thailand were a bit more attractive than the Khmer girls. Although, the Vietnamese girls are pretty attractive too, and you can occasionally find them around also (not just in the brothels). But all in all, I would say that the Thai girls are a bit more my style as far as looks go. Plus the thai girls are a bit more sophisticated when it comes to personal grooming and keeping their bodies in shape. Just my opinion.

But I LOVED Phnom Penh. In fact I liked it so much I’m going back there on Thursday November 24th for a month! It is an addictive place to be. I found the people to be really friendly and helpful in a much more genuine way than Thailand. They still have their hands out, but I would too if I worked 16 hours a day and only made $200 a month! Plus the country has that wild west feel to it, whereas Thailand seems really overly developed now. I guess it’s just more about what you are into. When I was there a few weeks ago, I spent my whole time in Phnom Penh (about two weeks). Two weeks in PP is probably too long for most people, but I made some good local friends who showed me the city and took me on some cool adventures. Next time I go I'll be doing a lot more exploring. If you are in it only for the nookie and don’t care much about he culture or country, than I guess Thailand is still the place to go. But there are a lot of other places in Cambodia I want to explore now, and I am sure a month still won’t be enough time.

I'll also be spending some time in bangkok and Pattaya this trip just so I can compare. I loved Pattaya last time I was there, but that was eight years ago and I am sure it's changed a lot (they have a Hard Rock Hotel for pete's sake!). I am planning on going overland to Cambodia from Pattaya this trip but don't really know how to do it. I have read reports that I have to stay in the town of Kep overnight on my way to Sihounakville, but I would rather go straight there. Anybody know a way to do this? Can I get a taxi at the border to take me straight there?

Concarne
11-26-05, 03:57
http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020298

Interesting. This has to do w the increased likelihood of the uncircumscised foreskin developing microtears that would expose the macrophages as well as the T4 cells to infection by the virus.

Thank you for the information.

Jimmy Boy 99
01-06-06, 02:25
Flew into Phnom Phen in the evening and was picked up by the Flamingos Hotel van (no charge for pick-up, $3-$7 to take you to airport, depending on # of riders). $20/double, nice, clean room, free internet, okay breakfast, in mongering headquarters zone.

Went to Le Cyrcee, one of my two favorite places in Phnom Phen (the other one being Sophies). Girls are extremely friendly, wear no underwear, and you can touch them anywhere while you're in the bar deciding whom to chose. I massaged and fingered one girl's pussy at Le Cyrcee and massaged another girl's ass at Sophies while sitting at the bar. Not too many places I know you can do that, especially for little or nothing. (At Sophies you can get a blow job at the bar from as many girls as you want for $5 each girl.)

Walked in to Le Cyrcee and saw about 10 girls, mostly average, some pretty. Was immediately surrounded by three or four girls, one of whom reminded me of Kuntea, a girl I had there on two previous visits. Said she was her sister, Annie. Very pretty girl with big breasts for her frame. Great body, even better naked. Had an enthusiastic session with her, bbbj, cfs. Did a double with her and another girl the next night. They faked the lesbo part very well. Had one other girl there, an ethnic Vietnamese who had been raised in Phnom Phen. Very cute and affectionate (she was the one whose pussy I played with at the bar). Price has increased to $15 plus $2 for the room, but they were worth it.

Went then to Sophies to check out the girls. Sophies is even dingier and darker than Le Cyrcee, on the second floor on a dark street near the Central Market. Again set upon by a flock of girls. Found 3 doable ones, one of whom I did twice. Still $10 for short-time. $2 tip was very appreciated (unlike the Street 63 girl to whom I gave $2 tip after $5 session and said that it wasn't enough). Very affectionate girls (the one whose ass I massaged in the bar had already had a session with me but stayed with me for quite a while at the bar even when other customers came in).

Went to Martinis. Lots of girls but few doable, and they were already with someone. Went into the disco. Could barely tell what the girls looked like because it was so dark and they were so busy dancing with each other so I walked out. Checked out Sharkeys. Nothing doable. Walkabout even worse. Went into most of the hostess bars but girls were not that attractive. The best looking woman I saw was the wife of the owner of DV8 bar. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that she was not available, and left after complementing her on her looks.

Checked out the Sony Guest house, a brothel one street down form the Flamingos Hotel. Had some attractive girls for $10 short-time but never got around to it. Went to 63rd Street near the Navy Club. Place I had gone to last time was closed. Pimp outside said it had moved to the neighboring building. Went in, up the stairs, saw line-up of 10-15 girls, probably Vietnamese. Wanted $10, said $5, was told ok. Chose one, had good session, but wanted $5 tip, not $2. Checked out place across the street, $5, but did not partake.

Got massages at Chay Hour Hotel next to the Walkabout. Probably 30 girls/women working. $4/hour. Sex is available for extra fee. Got one down to $7 after she started at $20. Another one wanted $10 but she wasn't worth it. Another one was cute and worth it but for some reason I never asked and she never offered extras.

Took the bus from the Central Market to Sihanoukville, about $4. Stayed at Orchidee Guest House, $15/double with marginal breakfast (no fruit). On main street of Orchuteal Beach past the Golden Sands. Nice pool.

Chicken Ranch, Biba's, and Blue Mountain all active. Some ok girls at Chicken Ranch, had one, but the rooms are pretty bad. Went to Biba's. Sat down and ordered a beer. Saw two girls that I liked dancing. Invited them to sit with me, $1.50 each for 10-15 minutes plus a beer each. One was a well-built girl with an exotic face and the other thin with a nice face also. The exotic one didn't speak any English, the other one very little. Was told that neither of them would do bj. Thought ok, will get that at Blue Mountain. Chose the exotic one, $25 all night. Both of us hopped on the moto and went back to the hotel. No issues with bringing the girl.

Had GFE sex with her (except for bj) a couple of times, and we slept in each other arms for the whole night (though that meant I didn't really get much sleep). Had breakfast and a going away session and then she left. Gave her $8 tip. She seemed surprised and appreciative. Went to Blue Mountain in the afternoon and asked for bbbjcim. Only one girl would do it; fortunately, she was acceptable ($5).

Went back that night to Bibas, walked in, the exotic girl saw me and ran up to me. Told her lets go, paid the $25, and went to the hotel. Apparently it's a rare occurrence for someone to just come in and grab a girl because quite a few of the other girls gathered around to watch us go.

Same type of sessions as before except the last time we had sex, as I was fingering her asshole without resistance, I pulled out, got some lube, and starting doing her anally. Strange that she would do anal but not bj. She left at 2PM (at my prompting, as it was getting kind of boring not being able to talk to her. That night went to Blue Mountain and got one girl for straight sex and another one for bbbjcim ($5 each).

You can get straight massages in the many parlors in Blue Mountain for $3-$5, plus some extras for suitable tip, although I never did because I did not find them that attractive. Food is very good at the beach restaurant shacks. Three crabs (each one costs $6 in Bangkok) or big whole fish for $5, beer 60 cents for small can. Had crab every evening after I found that they had them. Generic Viagra and Cialis is very cheap in Cambodia ($3 and $8, respectively), much cheaper than in Thailand. Stock up there and bring to Thailand or home.

Cheongka
01-19-06, 17:21
Hi all,

I heard there is a long strech of beach whereby people having party all night long in Cambodia?

Is there such a place? Please advice.

Coma Boy
01-20-06, 06:47
Sihanoukville is the beach town.

Matt Navan Man
01-21-06, 12:22
Hi all,

I heard there is a long strech of beach whereby people having party all night long in Cambodia?

Is there such a place? Please advice.There are party's pretty much every night on the beach. Head down the Occheuteal Beach away from the hotels and you'll find something going on. It's pot luck as to whether you get a good night or not.

Take care though as this is slightly off the beaten track so wandering alone late at night is not advisable. Take a moto down and back unless there's a big group of you.

Matt

Hotman 666
01-28-06, 18:09
I am making my first visit to Cambodia (Phnom Penh & Siem Reap) in around 2 weeks time.

I would welcome any advice from locals or frequent visitors regarding hotel recomendations. My preference would be for a medium size hotel (Guest friendly of course) near all the action, so not too far to stagger after a good night out!
I imagine that 20 – 30 US$ should get me a decent room with A/C and big bed?
Any advice gratefully received by this first time visitor.

Fast Eddie 48
01-29-06, 01:41
I am making my first visit to Cambodia (Phnom Penh & Siem Reap) in around 2 weeks time.

I would welcome any advice from locals or frequent visitors regarding hotel recomendations. My preference would be for a medium size hotel (Guest friendly of course) near all the action, so not too far to stagger after a good night out!
I imagine that 20 – 30 US$ should get me a decent room with A/C and big bed?
Any advice gratefully received by this first time visitor.

to hotman 666


Most hotel in phnom penh is girl friendly , The new york hotel is a good one
25 a night offer free pick up from air port or bigluck same price but have pool
actions is every where in phnom penh you need to fine them read the post
will help.

fast eddie 48



fast eddie 48

Rising Son
01-30-06, 08:11
Hi, Hotman --

Fast Eddie is right -- practically every hotel in Phnom Penh is girl-friendly. For $20-$30, you can stay at the Paris, the New York, the Big Luck, the Lucky Star, and a couple dozen others. You might want to look at the Flamingo, with is right in the heart of the bar action (not near Martini, but close to Walkabout and Shanghai and that whole strip of bars), and close to 63rd St. Has a nice roof garden, too, where you can sit in the early evening and look out over whatever there is to look out over.

RS

Tazzy Devil
01-31-06, 06:19
Hi, Hotman --

Fast Eddie is right -- practically every hotel in Phnom Penh is girl-friendly. For $20-$30, you can stay at the Paris, the New York, the Big Luck, the Lucky Star, and a couple dozen others. You might want to look at the Flamingo, with is right in the heart of the bar action (not near Martini, but close to Walkabout and Shanghai and that whole strip of bars), and close to 63rd St. Has a nice roof garden, too, where you can sit in the early evening and look out over whatever there is to look out over.

RSI have stayed at Flamingos several times & is good value for money & centraly located to the bars, For several dollars more The Billabong Hotel is also worth a look. Rooms start a $34 a night.

http://www.thebillabonghotel.com/about_us.htm

Cheongka
02-01-06, 13:48
Sihanoukville is the beach town.

Cool. Is there alot of foreigners there?

Montecristo
02-17-06, 17:57
I am planning a trip in 2 months to cambodja, and i wanted to have an idea, of the safety for a lonely ocidental traveler. I intend to go to Siem Reap, and PP, but i have heard of a chiken farm also.

Thanks in advance

Dinghy
02-17-06, 19:07
Snooky has great beaches, low prices, and some foreigners (not overloaded by any means) They also have a casino down on one of the beaches - near the port

Safety in Cambo... hmmm - don't do anything you wouldn't do at home - most of it seemed pretty safe but ASK at the hotel desk where to avoid and when to avoid it. Siem Riep seemed safe enough - but in a nightly downpour who can tell. I wandered PP at night only "slightly lost" - if you have a tiny torch carry it - some of the intersections aren't too well lit and maps are hard to read at night - or get a moto

Fabien
02-27-06, 02:08
I have some questions about sex in Cambodia. I know you'll probably think "Why don't you read the other threads in the forum?" , well the answer is I have.

So anyhow, How does it happen exactly? How do you choose a hotel? And then afterwards where do you find the girls? How are the girls in general? And lastly how much do you pay on average per night? Long time or short time? Which one do you believe is better? Thx in advance.

That Asshole
03-18-06, 13:54
******CONTINUING REPORT******

Hairdressing salons: You have to know which ones. Ask moto driver. You should really speak some Khmer to get serviced. Only in certain areas. Not all hairdresser shops in town offer the service!

Chat bars: Most bars oriented to foreigners fall into these (eg. Rose bar, Shanghai, Zanzibar, etc). Here you have to chat them up and usually COMPETE with other men for the better hos favours. Therefore many men don’t like it. It reminds us home, it degrades all men, breeds competitiveness, anger and violence among us. Favours rather the women than the men.

You pay barfine $5-$10 then must make deal with the nice prostitute to fuck you for $???. Virtually all the new bars opened in the past year are chat-bars. Some of previously fuck-bars, such as Banana or DV8, etc have also converted to become chat-bar. Streets 130, 136, 108, 118, 172, 94 are full of them. But can't really recommend them. No good for you!

Music Restaurant: Mainly a local scene but higher class. You need a local to go with you and to translate. You buy food, drink, pay for dancing with girls, then pay more for taking her home. Minimum total cost $50-60 for the night incl the food. All around town.

Pick-up bar/disco: Eg. Walkabout, Sharky, Martini, etc. Again, you have to chat them up. It is not just a simple commercial transaction as we like it.. Usual ST price from $6 in quiet times or up to $15 at night for more popular girls. Overnight about $20++. Don’t forget that actually YOU are competing with other men for the more attractive animals. It is degrading to men.

Jealousy, anger and violence are an occasional occurrence in such bars. I do not recommend them. Also, Martinis has gone downhill in a big way. It's no fun any more. I think these are not great for fuck but rather just spending the night with "people-watching". It's interesting to observe humans in their natural habitat. They are a strange lot.

Chicken shops: Only for brave people or for those who speak some Khmer. In some parts of town, (such as around where the old Martinis was) many beauty parlours, restaurants or just plain carparking lots convert to meat-shops. College girls, shop attendants, etc. earn some extra cash. There is usually a young guy or two managing them. Even if you don't take one it’s free to have look and maybe negotiate. Ask your moto driver. Careful, as some of these neighbourhoods can be rough at night.

Karaokes: If you know a local guy, you can go to a Karaoke together. You don’t need to sing. The girls or your friend will sing. You just pay all the bills. You can grope or even kiss the girls in the room. If you want more, they may go with you (or may not), for $$$. See separate posting about Battambang Karaoke.
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Various Stories:

One heart-warming, very romantic story (get tissues ready):

Phnom Penh

Four a night:

I had been pretty lazy lately, had better things to do and forgot about
fucking for a while. Urgently needed to beat in some more points. So,
headed for town.

Looked in to Walkabout at 2pm but nothing passable. Then went to the
massage section of a certain hotel. It is funny, from the outside there is no "massage" or any other sign indicating the activities inside. Just a very plain looking hotel. However, they have a fishbowl and a good selection of
meat.

I discovered this by chance some time ago just by simply by walking in and asking about the room prices.They immediately replied:"Are you here for massage?"

So, it may be worth inquiring at ALL hotels in town whether they have
massage or not. Some gems could turn up.
Anyway, picked a very cute little fucker, asking the receptionist first whether
that particular one does boom-boom. She replied positive. Paid $5 to reception.

We entered a reasonably comfortable, air-conditioned room. Then we had to fix the price for full-service boom-boom. She wanted $20 which I refused and offered $10 or nothing, and would go for just the plain massage. So she of course agreed on $10. Turned out to be a very horny and pretty little **** with awesome tits.

Except for her smelly breath the session was good enough for #1 this day.
Total cost 600 baht. Cheaper than Soi Yoksad in Pattaya by about 200 baht. And the fucker was fresh, hardly used.

By that time the scene picked up a bit at Walkabout Hotel. There were many prostitutes but I took the ugliest hooker. (Well, wasn't the ugliest but maybe second.) Because she was the only one wanting to talk with me. (I told you, this is a competitive place.) But at least she was cheap enough, only $6 for the hour.

(Sharky bar, Walkabout, Martini: these places are very competitive and not good for less attractive men or if you don't like to bow down to them. You have to get your hair done and shave and put on a clean shirt for example. And you will have to LICK!)

I made an exception to the rule and decided to take her to my room, even though I hate taking them to the place where I sleep. The fuck was allright, no complaints. However, afterwards she started demanding more money. You have to hate these fuckers, don't they have any conscience?

She said she needed money for her mama. I wondered: "What do I have to do with that?" So, I suggested she bring her mama and I bang her too. Then she became aggressive, accusing me of swearing at her mama. It is in fact very stupid to take them to your room, I warn you again. You are in great danger, in any country. So, I pushed her out of the door but being still afraid that she will make more trouble. No good! Meat is a potential problem. Not belong to your room.

It became dark soon afterwards so I went to find my usual moto driver.
He wasn't there but met another one, his friend and he also knew the
places I used to go. Off to the backstreets where few foreigners
venture. He also warned that this was somewhat dangerous because of
drug-crazed teenagers roaming the streets at night. (But in fact YOU don't need to venture that far, plenty of meat in downtown).

I was a bit scared but still went. He suggested a place where
apparently many pretty viet chicks are.

Wow, and that house rocked for sure. All there in their little colorful viet style pyjamas. I chose the smiliest one. A very tall girl. 19 years young, fresh from Vietnam. Papasan wanted $15 (driver gets commission) but eventually agreed to $10. The room was clean enough, there was good lighting plus even aircon! And my smiley girl turned out to be totally, awesomely, crazily beautiful meat! Oh boy, even now to think back I get a big hard-on.....

Like most of you, I had lots of bad experiences in the past with uncooperative fuckers but this big teddybear like girl was a gem. All smiles, laughs. And very-very pink and white. After all those dozens of black cuntholes she was the most welcome and beautiful change. Pink skin, pink nipples, pinky-pink pussy meat. Lots of kissing. I fucked this one without
condom, couldn't help it. It was just so perfect meat.

The moto driver noticed that I came out with the widest grin possible.
Fuck, it doesn't get better than this! #3 done for the day.

However there was still work to do. We headed off to an entirely
different direction. Very dark streets. Fucking scary. Red lights on
the side of the road. We arrived. There are already two chinese looking
customers waiting for something. The papasan promises to bring me a
girl "straight from the farm". And that he did. She was very pretty and
fresh with nice face and smile and pleasant attitude.

Somewhat reserved but not shy at all about fucking. She spread her legs
right away, no shower, nothing. Big, hairy snatch, black, bulky lips. What the fuck, it's one point more! The room was shitty as it gets but it was all part of the experience. Good, healthy fun. Cost $10 plus $1 tip to the girl. It was #4 for the day. Total damage about 2000 baht for the 4 fucks plus moto. As last stop the driver dropped me off at Martinis. Gave him $4 for the night.

This twice relocated Martinis disco sucks. Hardly anyone goes there any more, even on a Saturday night. Will write a separate story about it. Watched the miserable hookers awhile in the smoke filled dancing room. Maybe only one pretty among all of them. The (wealthy looking) man SHE CHOSE to cling to seemed totally elated with "his catch". Good luck boy! How much are you going to spend?

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Lovely story, isn't it?:

Phnom Penh is full of brothels
The other day walking home from the pub an old man says:
"Hello".
I say: "Hello!"
He says: "Look lady?"
I say: "What have you got? I only like Vietnamese."

So, he leads me into this house and all those viet cuties sitting along the wall. I ask: " How much?"
He says:" Ten dollar"
I say: " Five dollar okay?"
He talks with old mama. Mama nods' okay'.

One smiley girl immediately waves 'hello'. I wave back. They must think that I picked this one as she starts leading me to a room. I actually wasn't choosing her but nevermind, she is cute enough, especially for $5. The room was clean enough and there was good lighting. She sucked and fucked well and I had a good time. Showered again, walked back to reception, paid.

There were many more cute ones so I told them that I wanted another one. I felt like Charlie in the Chocolate Factory. This one performed even better. She put a lot of effort into the work. Tipped her $1.
This went on and on. I didn't actually count how many I did but originally I had about $30 and there was only small change left at the end, so must have done about 5 or so. They all served well. It was funny to watch them marching into the bathroom with a big cumshot on each one's face.

The strangest thing is that I had been walking past this house every day and knew nothing of what is inside. There could be hundreds of brothels like this all over town!

Good to know that there are still havens like this and happy subservient women who know their place in the world. I have no complaints against these fuckers. As long as they serve well they are in the good books. And they have to serve all other men the same way. I wouldn't want them just to serve me. It is good feeling to share with all my brothers and create goodwill and friendship worldwide, like the readers of this forum.

You absolutely don't have to degrade yourself with them and beg them for a fuck! They won't refuse you, even if you are smelly, old or fat. None of the 'courtship' thing going on. You just point and fuck. It's that easy. And you get the happy feeling that you contributed to worldwide peace and happiness.

Let's admit it: most fights and wars happen about women and about meat. When they are this cheap who would want to fight for them?

Sex-tourists, you are the best! You create peace!!
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White Viet Beauty offers to eat yellow gooey dinner:

It is possible to get a very beautiful young girl with gorgeous tits for less than $5. Sometimes you have to pay more though. For this very attractive meat I paid $15 (600B). Totally gorgeous white figure coupled with well trained subservient attitude. Seemingly completely without any ego. She kissed, licked, sucked cock and all the while looking into my eyes as if wondering: "am I doing right Sir?"

Although normally I hate to praise them, I had to compliment: "If I ever own a brothel I will make you supervisor of the cunts." She was quite pleased by this possible future job opportunity. The lighting in the room was excellent ant it was very exciting to see my weather beaten, whithered, wrinkled old penis moving in and out of her gorgeous, young pink cunthole. I had to stop every so often and just engage in this sight. It was a total ego trip.

She served so well. But of course, she had to. She was full of gratitude ever since she swam out of her papa's penis some 20 years before, she was happy to please her papa's brothers (us sex-tourists). (Unless someone might not know, some nations count someone's age from the time they swam out of their papa's penis. This is the crucial moment that matters and not when they crawl out of the cunthole.)

I asked her:"do you eat sperm at all?" and I thought she will be very keen on the special delicacy. But she wouldn't. So this time I wastefully emptied the nutritious load inside a rubber bag provided for this purpose. However after we finished, possibly in the hope of some tip, she pointed to it:"I want eat now!". But by then I changed my mind. It is not quite the same pumping it into their gaping hot mouth or just seeing them sucking it out of a used condom. So I washed it down the toilet. "Sorry girl, no tip today."
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The scarry faced boy in Phnom Penh

Has anybody met the young moto driver who usually hangs out by the river in Phnom Penh hunting for foreign tourists? His English is very good. Once he came over and started a chat. He showed me his badly disfigured face: "You see? My father did this to me!"

Of course this was a very successful line of his, all the foreign women fell for it, immediately hiring him for an all day drive while he could tell them about his 'monster papa'. The foreign hos would just love to comfort him "You poor boy! What did this evil MAN do to you!" And most importantly they would pay the cash.

However, I explained to him the truth. I told him that when I was a kid my papa used to shoot at us with a machine gun and I showed him my own terrible wounds. I told him not to worry and that we must forgive them. I also explained that fathers have the right to do this to their own kids since they swam out of their papa's dick they are just like piss, he owns them and he can do to them whatever he wants to do. Who can prohibit a man to do anything with his own piss?

He seemed quite relaxed after this explanation and thanked for the good advice. Nobody else had pointed out these things to him before. I also urged him to stay wide away from evil foreign females as they would lead him into no good. He promised and left.

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North of Phnom Penh:

Pailin, Battambang, Pursat, Kompong Chnang provinces (see map)

Pailin

General:

Pailin is a lovely but very tiny town. Basically about 2 dusty streets, one smallish market and that's it. As it is well known the town is home to a number of ex-Khmer Rouge veterans and some might be put off by this. However, they are people just like us, no worse, no better. (See separate posting"Looking at Pol Pot the right way").

Accomodation:

Choices are limited to 2 reasonable hotels only. The rest are very cheap, like $1 a day but you really won't like those. Hang Meas Hotel has rooms $5-14 and KimYoung Hotel $4-10. Both are okay.

Food:
Basically only one restaurant with English menu and any traces of hygiene. Located at Hang Meas Hotel. Count on B 80-100/meal.

Money:
Baht is accepted everywhere. So are USD and Riel. Money changers at the market. Good rates for changing Baht but not for other currencies.

People/Language: Surprisingly many people speak good English, some also Thai. Generally everyone is very friendly. Not many western tourists pass this way yet.

Sightseeing:
If you decide to spend a couple of days, there is some sightseeing to do. At the south end of town on top of a small hill is the spectacular Wat Phnom Yat. Normally I don't recommend visiting wats as one is like the other.

However, this one is on top of a hill and it is good exercise to climb up. Also, the views from the top over the town are very pretty.

You might care to look at this: the Wat is home to some colorful sculpture depicting the tortures of hell (apparently from the sculptor's point of view). The scenes of women's tongues being pulled out by pliers is particularly thought provoking. One wonders why... do they do that to them nice ladies??? You can walk there. Similar themes on the wall of the education center below the hill.

Apart from that, you can take a moto the very pretty waterfalls called "Toek Le Otowau", 8km SE of town. Moto $4 return or less. It's quite well developed and scenic too. The road is very rough though. They might also try to charge you entrance fee $1/person at the gate! But actually the real fee is 1000 Riel/motorbike! Another place is called "Toek Le Ochra" is nearer to town, moto only B20 but not nearly as attarctive.

Local transport: Moto 5-10 baht anywhere in town. But really you can walk.

Transport/getting there and away:
Moto to/from Thai border to Pailin is B100. There is some unsealed road to Poipet. However, your next obvious stop better be Battambang, where there is some more "entertainment" for you. The only transport is by share taxi. Old Toyota sedans leaving all day from the transport terminal, near Hang Meas Hotel and the market. The road is graded dirt but not too bad. However it can be extremely dusty unless there had been rain. In case of heavy rain it can become unpassable. On the crowded back seats they will squeeze you in for 150 baht (if you are not too fat) or you can have the whole front seat for 300 baht (recommended!). Journey about 2 hours or less, unless you have a breakdown.

Poossy:
(There is quite a bit to do in town. To protect you from perverts I had to resort to the following policy: If you are a Senior Member with a number of WORTHWHILE reports, PM me and I will forward you these details. Otherwise, go there and find out for yourself. But please do not post exact details. This is an evil world. Remember what happened to K11? )
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Battambang:

General:

Cambodia's second largest town. Quite scenic, reminds one of Vientiane, Laos. Same friendly people too. Very clean and organized town with lots of foreigners, backpackers, etc. But still hardly any hassles from beggars or motos. There is a nice riverfront with concrete benches where you can sit, relax, read, etc.

Accomodation: Very many good value hotels and guesthouses. Too many to list here. If you take a moto to the central markets (Psar Nat) many hotels are right next door. $5-15/night.

Food:
Can be tricky but Cold Night Restaurant, Chaya Restaurant and Haing Lay Restaurant have English menu. Some foreigners eat at the markets but it is just noodlesoup there.

Money: Only USD and Riel accepted. Money changers at market or hotels.

Language:
Many moto drivers speak English or French and also some hotel staff. At restaurants even if they have menu you may just have to point.

Sightseeing: Countryside, old wats, waterfalls, lakes, etc. Too many choices. However the road will be invariably bad wherever you go so be prepared.

Local transport: Moto in town 1000-2000 Riel. More at night or if he waits for you.
Transport/getting there: Three bus companies run the 6 hour trip to Phnom Penh (see map) fare 14000 riel. The road to Phnom Penh is good and sealed all the way. There are also buses to Poipet, Siem Reap. Daily boat to Siem Reap. To Pailin (Thai border) you catch share taxi at south end of town. Taxi terminal on Pailin Road (see Pailin section).

Poossy:
Your options are : massage/boom-boom, knocking shops, karaoke, ++. (There is no centralised 'chicken farm' in Battambang but there is quite a bit to do in town.

To protect you from perverts I had to resort to the following policy: If you are a Senior Member with a number of WORTHWHILE reports, PM me and I will forward you these details. Otherwise, go there and find out for yourself. But please do not post exact details. This is an evil world. Remember what happened to K11? )
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Pursat town:

General:
Another small, sleepy but lovely and picturesque town. Just 2 hours from Battambang on the way to Phnom Penh. The locals are very friendly, hotels are good value and there is some action at night (or even daytime). There is a small river with crumbling bridges crossing town. At least two nice restaurants, cheap beer. Worth a couple of days attention.

Accomodation: Good choice of hotels right next to the bus stop. $4-15/night.

Food:
The Magic Fish (Teppachan) restaurant has magic views over the river and bathing locals. You might imagine you are in Bali. Food is okay and service even better. They wait behind you and poor your beer to the last drop. Not expensive. Phnom Pich Hotel also has restaurant with English menu as well as the New Tonsour Hotel.

Money:
Only USD/Riel accepted.

Language:
Not many but enough moto drivers speak some English or Thai so you will get by. Plus what they don't understand they make up with friendliness.

Sightseeing:
40 km from town is a Viet floating village. However it's a very long way on very bad roads. You will see similar in Kompong Chnang with lot less trouble.

Poossy:
Here you won't have to go far. It is happening right in town at night.
(Compared to it's small size, there is quite a bit to do in town. To protect you from perverts I had to resort to the following policy: If you are a Senior Member with a number of WORTHWHILE reports, PM me and I will forward you these details. Otherwise, go there and find out for yourself. But please do not post exact details. This is an evil world. Remember what happened to K11? )
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Kompong Chnang

General:
It's a big town. Very organized and clean with wide streets and little traffic. Foreigners are rarely seen here. Locals are very friendly but very few speak English.

Accomodation:
Quite scarce, compared to the town's size. Basically all just guesthouses of varying quality. $3-15/night. No big hotels at all.

Food:
Can be hard. Either you buy fruit from the market or try the restaurants, saying: "bay cha" (fried rice) or "mie cha" (fried noodle). If you find a moto driver who speaks English he might help.

Sightseeing:
Very scenic town indeed. You have the choice of either going to the big lake ("taleh") or the river/harbour of sorts where the Siem Reap boat also stops.There is a real Floating Town right next door! Also many foodstalls. You can walk there. Women can paddle you around the water for $1/hr. Sure, it is interesting!

Local transport:
Moto 1000-1500 riel anywhere in town. However the hardest can be to communicate with them. But a few drivers do speak English well. If you find one, better hang on to him.

Getting there/away:
The Battambang-Phnom Penh bus stops at Kompong Chnang. There is also a dedicated service running between Phnom Penh-K.Chnang. About 2 hours only. Fare 7000 Riels.

Poossy:
To be honest, it is a very quiet town at night. And very dark too. However if you hook up with a good driver, he will lead you to the right places.
(To protect you from perverts I had to resort to the following policy: If you are a Senior Member with a number of WORTHWHILE reports, PM me and I will forward you these details. Otherwise, go there and find out for yourself. But please do not post exact details. This is an evil world. Remember what happened to K11? )
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One night SOMEWHERE in the country:

Just after sunset managed to find a moto driver who spoke some English. Fixed price, $1 return plus a dollar if he has to wait an hour or so. Off to the Chicken Farm. All the girls seemed very excited by seeing a foreigner. Chose one very cute one soon. Room was nothing special but clean enough and some light in the corner covered by a cloth. My girl was a total doll and absolutely HOT.

A bit apprehensive about a foreigner first but after then got into some hot kissing and fucking so that I could hardly get out of there. Paid about $5. Then went back to the place where I got previous night's animal for LT and complained to mamasan because she ran after one pop. Not much use of course. Cannot get money back. Nevermind, wasn't expensive and that one pop was good enough. Then wandered around the cat-houses again. Chose a girl with very pretty face and nice teeth. She was cooperative enough but not quite as nice as the first. Then went on and on, checking out meat.

Found a very big, chunky girl. Not fat, just largely built. She was okay again, especially for the price. So far all were Khmers. Wanted a Viet for a change. I knew a house at another end of town and my driver also knew about the place.

We found it easily. Driver did the talking with the boss. Picked a very slim, white skinned girl with nice body. She turned out to be the crown for the day. Really skilled and nice, hot fucker. Still just $5, same as the others. (Local guys pay $2, the price of two beers in a Karaoke). It was late at night by the time we finished. Shared a beer with the moto driver and gave him $3. He seemed very happy too.
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Another night in some small town:

Had a nice day wandering around town. Found a good restaurant. At sunset caught a moto driver who spoke some Thai and a little English. He was very friendly and promised fun. First we went to have a look at some Karaokes where it was possible to pop the girls. But decided to keep looking instead. Then we went to some street-corner where there were some dark and fat girls waiting. But they looked allright, especially for $5. There was some room available nearby or they could have come to hotel. Yet still decided to keep looking and we drove on.

Next stop was a knocking shop with Vietnamese girls. There apparently was only one available at that time but she looked nice enough and spoke English as well. Pop was $5 but she demanded that I will tip her and promised a very good BJ. She did allright indeed so I tipped her $3. She also gave her phone number so that she would come to the hotel the next day.

Then we drove to another house with attractive but very dark skinned girls. Also there was little light. Decided to keep looking instead again. The moto driver was a really nice guy and wanted to give me a special treat. We stopped at some house near a restaurant. There were about 3 girls inside, all Khmer but all very tall and very beautiful.

He told me they were students and did only part-time boom-boom. However, none spoke English and we couldn't agree on the price anyway so we left. Later back at the moto stop the guys had a good laugh about the story. As I understood they all have popped those girls before. It was like a birthday treat for them. How much they paid they didn't tell.

My driver really wanted to make me happy so as soon as we parked he started to chat up the woman next to us selling bread. She said she wanted to go with me. But I told the driver just to go back to the hotel. There this guy even without asking, chatted up the room-maid for me. I don't know what he told her but she started to give that expectant look and wide smiles. He said the girl was desperate to sleep with me. She wasn't bad looking but I just laughed and went to sleep alone. It seemed in this town everyone was available, you just had to know someone who knows them (much like the Philippines really).

All people all night were very friendly and welcoming. It was good fun and cheap as well. Surely beats a drunk night at the pub back at home.

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South of Phnom Penh

Koh Kong

General:
Situated next to the Stung Koh Poi river, a quiet tiny fishing town. Not much to see but the locals are friendly enough (usually, but not always. There have been instances of BAD behaviour). In fact the southern part of Cambodia is decidedly rpugher and less friendly than the North part (maybe except for Siem Reap).

Accomodation:
Plenty of hotels, $4-15 rooms. Also some expat run guest houses. Good value, clean rooms.

Food:
Edible but expensive farang food at expat bars. There is also now a good Thai restaurant. Cheaper are the restaurants at the Khmer run hotels such as Bopha Koh Kong where fried rice is just $1. They have English menu and speak English and Thai.

Language, money:
Many people speak either Thai or English in this border-town. Moneychangers at the markets and at some shops. Baht is accepted everywhere as well as USD and Riel.

Sightseeing:
To take a moto around the countryside is interesting enough. You can also go fishing. Tackle is sold at the markets. Some islands can be visited by boat but it's not cheap.

Getting there and away:
To and from the Thai border at Cheam Yeam moto taxis run for 50 baht (they pay the bridge toll and not you!). One daily boat runs to Sihanoukville. (See also Sihanoukville section.) Remember that you have to get the 'Tourist' ticket for $15, as the locals travel for less.

Poossyyy:
(There are bars and one nice meat-farm. To protect you from perverts I had to resort to the following policy: If you are a Senior Member with a number of WORTHWHILE reports, PM me and I will forward you these details. Otherwise, go there and find out for yourself. But please do not post exact details. This is an evil world. Remember what happened to K11? )

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Sihanukville (Kompong Som)

General:
Cambodia's beach resort town. Not quite Pattaya yet. Obviously lacking investment. All the main roads are sealed and this is a big word! So, there is little dust. The beaches are nice enough and hardly any people. The quality of the sand varies from fine and white to coarse yellow and the water seems clean enough for a swim. No or only minimal waves.

Accomodation:
The choice is either on one of the beaches or in town centre. The distances are small, so this really doesn't matter as much as for example it would in Phuket. Basic, reasonably clean fan rooms from $4 and aircon from $10. For $15 you get a spacious aircon room with a view. The supply is usually ample so don't need to pre-book. Pretty much everywhere you can bring in visitors for no extra charge.

Food:
If you don't speak Khmer then you will have to dine at the expat-run restaurants and your meals will be expensive, about $5/meal, etc. If you have a phrasebook or speak a little local lingo then you can dine for $1. But not many foreigners do. There are also cheap Khmer foodstalls at the market. A mug of beer costs around 75c-$1 in most bars and restaurants, except in the town's one gogo bar (see later).

Local transport:
Motodups charge foreigners 1000 Riel for the shortest trip to about 3-4000 Riel eg. town to the beaches. Many drivers speak enough English to be helpful. They are usually nice guys, it is just such a hassle to be stopped every 2 metres by someone inquiring whether you need mototaxi. You can hire motorbikes from $4/day and bicycles too.

Dangers and annoyances:
The greatest annoyance is possibly the multitude of moto-drivers. After a few days you might even get some perverse joy from deciding to totally ignoring them. There are also some persistent rumours about night time robbery, especially near Victory Hill (where you will have to slow down) and around the red-light area. Personally haven't had any problems yet but have been scared on occasions on the way to the brothels, especially with drivers I didn't know well.

Getting there and away:
Several bus companies run many services from Phnom Penh. Travel time 4 hours, cost 14000 Riels. Comfort level is low and it seems a very long trip. The road is sealed and okay. There is one convenience stop on the way. In Phnom Penh buses leave from Psar Tmei (main markets) and arrive in center of Sihanoukville town. On weekends ,may be hard to get tickets either way but booking in advance is possible.

By boat from Koh Kong (Thai border) it's 4-5 hour trip. Can be rough in bad weather. Boats are often overloaded. There is also a minibus running to Koh Kong from Sihanoukville, 6 hours trip but sometimes hard to get a ticket or departures may be cancelled. Book at Capitol Tours or other agencies in town.

Sightseeing:
There are very good tourist oriented publications circulated and free and maps too. Available at all the expat hotels. There are lots of things to see but the beaches will keep you occupied for more than a couple of days.

Poossyy:
The most obvious centre of action is Freedom Bar and Hotel in downtown centre. They have the only gogobar in town. It's nice enough and the animals are friendly if you wish to chat with them. You get them for all night $20 +$5 BF. Lady drinks:$3. Beer, cola $2. Some other pub/bars in town but they are usually empty. Fishermans Den has some freelancers late at night but don't forget it's competitive. If you don't lick well enough for them, you won't get laid. It favours the women over men. Can't recommend it.

Victory Hill also has some night-time bars. However it is mostly a backpackers scene.. They bring their own hookers from home.
Doesn't it piss you off too? For example here we are the honest sex-tourists. We share our meat with everyone else. We fuck them for 30 minutes and then pass them on to the next sex-tourist. It's so peaceful and happy for everyone . However, they bring their arrogant and proud prostitutes from home and they don't want to share with no-one! How does that make you feel? It just breeds envy and antagonism among guys. This is how all troubles and wars start. Why can't they share as we do?

(Being the tourist center of Cambodia, there is quite a bit more to do in town. But o protect you from perverts I had to resort to the following policy: If you are a Senior Member with a number of WORTHWHILE reports, PM me and I will forward you these details. Otherwise, go there and find out for yourself. But please do not post exact details. This is an evil world. Remember what happened to K11? )
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A thought provoking story:

Do unto others...
or
The young man and arrogant the ho:
There was a Vietnamese girl I borrowed from the Chicken Farm. The rain caught us halfway on the road and we had to seek shelter under a roof. For some reason she didn't get along with my moto driver. He must have said something so the girl kept pinching and pushing him and making angry faces at him. To be safe, she kept clinging to me as for some kind of protection in case the guy tried to get back at her.

The driver obviously seemed stressed by the attacks. But there was nothing he could do, she was my hired ho for the night and I was his employer too.
I didn't get the whole story between them (and I am nobody to judge them anyway) but I recognised that if we two guys now start arguing about her then she will think shit of both of us.

I had to make a decision that would benefit all men and the world. We are not pit-dogs who fight each other. We are intelligent human beings. I was thinking: I am educating this young man here. How would I want him to act in a similar situation?

So, I suggested that he may smack her if he wished to do so, I won't interact. As the crap from her continued, he eventually did so and gave her a good smack on the face.

She tried to cling on to me as if for protection but I pushed her out in the rain and suggested that he smack her again, which he declined. She seemed to calm down a bit by this and we moved on when the rain eased.
Despite of all the above, she performed quite well in the hotel room. Gave BBBJ, even licked ass. The fuck was okay too and she had white skin, marvellous firm, young body and she served well.

I mean, so what's good about a fuck? They are just the same. I got another fuck-point. However, there is a moral to the story:

Whenever we meet some arrogant and disrespectful woman it may seem that there is nothing we can do about it and we feel so helpless. However in fact there is quite a bit we can do. We have a choice of cooperating with and supporting other men, (our own kind) and looking the other way when somebody else fixes them up.

I think, many men start to realize nowadays that women don't need our protection but we need protection from them. If they don't respect us as a class they won't respect us as individuals either.

Because we seem to constantly fight each other is the very reason why they think shit of us as. But it's time to realize that we are not pit-dogs who fight for females' entertainment. We are intelligent human beings.
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Bright sign of the future?
What sets us humans above animals is our ability to cooperate for a single purpose. While animals kill and eat for their own comfort, we humans work together, build together,hunt together and share our prey among ourselves, according to each ones work.

While men are usually able to work together for one purpose, one exception is when that issue concerns "women". Then we start fighting and killing each other and our system of organisation completely falls apart. We become again like animals.True?

However, We can see the sign of something great to come right now! And that is: Global Sex-Tourism.

Unselfish men have already started to share their meat in many parts of the World. They have put down their desire to own and rather choose just to USE instead and then to recycle and to pass it on. The ultimate goal is to buy and sell meat by the kilo, eventually on a worldwide level and to make a better, more peaceful world for all. Free of antagonism, hatred and violence and fighting for meat. Enjoy these wonderful reports:
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Fucking Three in one night:

Sophie Bar, Phnom Penh cnr St118&St53
I used to like this place but hadn’t visited for a year, so it was time to give it another go.

You should realize that being a sex-tourist you are doing good.
Be proud to be a sex-tourist because sex-tourism benefits all men and the World. Cultivates friendships and comradiere, gives control back to men over their lives, empowers men in their dealings with women, teaches women how to serve men well, etc. All in all it’s enormous benefit to all of us.

So much has already been disseminated by others so it’s no secret to anyone, that Sophies is basically a BJ and fuck bar. Also as such, one of it’s kind in Cambodia. There are BJ bars in Bangkok and Pattaya but the atmosphere, service and especially the price are so much better at Sophies.

I spent a bit longer time than most guys would, about 3 hours. During this time received BBBJ on 3 different occasions, fucked 2 cunts in separate sessions, bought 3 drinks and handed out some tips. The total bill was a little more than 1000 baht.

Sophies is quite a lot busier now than a year ago, possibly partly thanks to this forum. It’s packed with customers right from the opening time at 6pm. It’s a plus for atmosphere but a minus for privacy. However if you are a bit of an exhibitionist, this might be just your thing. The guys get along well and there is quite of a bit comradeship cultivated in there, getting sucked off in front of everyone else. I like it! The scene is essentially non-competitive.

Everyone gets their turn. No wonder, their popularity is going through the roof! We need a lot more bars like Sophies.

What you will feel sitting there being serviced by attractive women in a very lowly way is that you have somehow reversed that oppression that you are currently experiencing in your feminist-regime run home country. It's an ego trip.

If you have never been there, I will try to help you imagine the place. If your hotel is anywhere near Psar Tmei (Central Market), you can easily walk there. The easiest is to find street 118 at the riverfront, walk along it towards the West until you cross st.51 (Pasteur street). Then you walk on a bit and keep watching the LEFT side of the road.

At the intersection of street 51 is the BIG sign of CATHOUSE TAVERN. Can’t miss it. Walk a bit further on to street 53. OPPOSITE that is Sophies, up on the FIRST FLOOR of a building. There is just a small sign. The entrance is well hidden behind vendors in a very grotty alley way. (The area looks dangerous after dark but maybe it’s only my imagination.) Walk up some stairs. Do KNOCK on the door, as nowadays it is locked, and they will let you in. (They possibly have been harassed by perverts in the past.)

You sit down on a barstool or an old sofa. A number of available girls surround you right away. As soon as you order a drink (most drinks $2) they unbutton your pants and they take turns sucking you BB. It is customary to tip each one that sucks $1. You are serviced well. Not a lot of words are spoken.
The clientele is quite mixed. Here you find out who really the sex-tourists are. It's a varied bunch: Some are old, others young. Some fat, bald, wearing glasses, others are fit and macho.

However they are there for one thing: To share with their brothers and sow the seeds of worldwide peace, love and understanding. The point is that you will get a good fuck irrespective of your looks, age or character! Full stop.

It can be quite spooky first but you will get used to it. Honestly, on first occasion I actually dashed for the door and run away, throwing $2 on the bar for the drink, I was so surprised. But later back in the hotel I reflected on the thing and returned the next day, arriving a lot more relaxed and having a good time. I think any man would have a good time.

Then you can take one/two or more to a room for more hanky-panky. Pay only $10/fuck/girl, so 2 girls cost $20, etc. This is total cost, no more to pay for room, etc. You may tip them, and some men give them more but I don’t usually tip or just leave a $1 note. When they were less busy they used to give you one hour in the room but nowadays as there are only 3 rooms and the bar is so busy it’s more like 20-30 minutes. Still there are usually guys lining up. The place needs some urgent expansion.

When I was there last time, the guy sitting on the next stool popped out his magnificent instrument in the open. It must have been something like 40 centimetres long and as thick as a woman’s wrist. We all the other guys went: “Whoah!”, as compared to it all our pathetic willies looked like pencils and then all the girls went: “Whoah!”and then mamasan went :”Whoah!” For the rest of the time he got the most attention from the girls of course, they just all wanted to touch it and to play with it. A girl could hardly fit the tip in her mouth.

Then the guy with the BIG dick took one cute girl to the room. Then I took another of the cuter ones to another room. It was very nice body, no kids, just 21 year young. All girls are Cambodian at Sophies, no Viets, sorry. She served well. But I also liked his girl so later I waited until they finished too and then I took HIS girl for a fuck.

She was very lovely and ready to serve but as you can imagine, her hole had already been stretched out to the size of Phnom Pen’s main gate. I didn’t know it my dick was in or out.

Out of the dozen or so females working there 3 or 4 are usually very cute. The rest are average or quite ugly. But they are all fun. You don’t have to talk much and they giggle on anything you say anyway, or even if you just fart. I used to fart to the rhythm of the music and they enjoyed that most. (This is why I studied for my masters and doctors degrees at university. To be intelligent and an interesting conversationalist!)

Nowadays there seem to be more girls who speak some English or even Thai. At least enough to communicate what you want and how much to pay. As I mentioned earlier the place is still better value than the other fuck-joints such as Circee or Mikado. (However their rooms are way better.)

Price comparisons:

Sophies: $10 **** , free room, total=$10
Mikado: $10 ****, $2 room, total=$12
Circee: $15 ****, $2 room, total=$17
Khmer brothels (various): **** $5-10, free room, total=$5-$10 +moto fare +moto waiting time.

When you finish, just walk down the stairs and there is usually a moto or two waiting for passengers to take you to your next root.

I headed to another fuck-joint. Picked a very beautiful Khmer woman. Not too young, around 23 but got pretty good service. Also, she had some of the most amazing tits in the country. We clearly exceeded the time allocated for us but the bar wasn’t too busy so nobody minded.

The details of how the fuck went really don’t matter. Just the usual stuff. Sucking, fucking, dick in and out. This bill around 700 baht ($18). They all served very well all night. I also feel that I had put some meaning into their miserable lives. Of course the ultimate purpose of any woman is to serve men well. I helped them to this. And so can you too.
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Pailin, Pol Pot town?
There has been much confusion about the fact that a number of ex-Khmer Rouge soldiers are living in the town of Pailin. Often they are despised, harassed and feared. However this shows only ignorance from people. To clear up this issue, I propose:

An alternative way of looking at Pol Pot.

There have been lot of bad stories disseminated about the PP regime. There are museums, exhibitions even films are made of it and people are openly urged to hate them.

One of the joys of travelling Cambodia is the easy availability of cheap copied books. You can get hold of Warren Fellows : Damage done for $2, as I did.
What an interesting parallel is drawn in the book when compared to P.Pot. If you were to condense the book's story into just one word, what would that be?

"Helplessness".

In fact nearly all stories of misery in the world could be condensed into this one word. This is the story of Pol Pot too. And the story of Warren Fellows in the Bang Kwao Thai jail: "Helplessness. "

The whole story wouldn't be bad at all IF there was something you could do to change it. And the same stands for P.Pot. So the real issue here is peoples' helplessness and NOT the story of PolPot or Thai jails or torture.

So, why do hypocrites keep pointing the finger at somebody else, like Pol Pot and Thai jails and viruses and microbas and car accidents for their own misery??

And by the way, are WE actually better than Pol Pot? Why, just because we haven't killed anyone today did we become saints in an instant?

Many teachers have been advocating for thousands of years that your pain sources from the inside. Where is really the cause of your pain? In your chains, torturers, conditions, viruses, tumors, microbas? Or is it inside your own heart?

Everyone has had plenty of time to hear and absorb these teachings. Some apparently did. Others spent their time with other things for example with getting drunk, fighting, fucking, arguing, politicizing, bowing down to women, etc.

Not that these are bad things to do. No one gets punished for being bad (even though it may seem so sometimes).

However, times of trial happen to come to the world every so often. Some who have prepared, float by unhurt. Others who are unprepared fall by the wayside and suffer a lot. So, what is the danger that we are facing? The jail, Pol Pot's mongrels, AIDS, cancer, car accident? Or your inability to cope with it?

Have to admit that advocating darkness (as in present days) is great business. 'Good health' for example profits no-one. But disease does profit many. "We will cut it out for you.... We will cure you.....We will give you pills for it..." are very popular lines nowadays.

So, 'sickness and pain' business booms.For a big, fat $$$ fee, of course. You might think that it has nothing to do with Pol Pot or Thai jail or AIDS. But it has! It's just the same story. Just another program.

Sorry but it seems that if we keep pointing our finger at those things as our 'enemies' it only shows that you we nothing but a 'program', already dead. Just waiting to be disassembled by cancer or AIDS or by Pol Pot or whatever.

THE END
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SEX-TOURIST ID CARD sample:

As the financial benefits of sex-tourism become obvious to more and more countries it would be time we start to organize some sort of Identification Card for Sex-Tourists.

We could use it to get discounts at duty-free stores and get preferential treatment at customs, etc. It has to contain data of your sex-tourist background as well as your financial status so that everyone would know how much respect you are entitled to. As well as how much cash you are carrying in case someone wants to borrow from you (we have to support our poorer members).

It could contain the following details:

For example:
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UNITED SEX-TOURIST HEADQUARTERS
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Title: Mr
First Name: Dick
Last Name: Head

Occupation: army officer, etc.

age: 55

size of dick: 3inX2in

Assets: $520,000
Cash: $5000

Start of sex-tourist career: 1978
Number of fucks acomplished: 1,692

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So, an identification document like this would benefit all and would help you get introduced to other sex-tourists. It could also function as a sort of credit card and you could pay soundry bills with it like an ST fuck or a small bribe, whatever.

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That Asshole
03-18-06, 13:58
The Most Complete Cambodian Fucking Guide
Copyright 2006 by United Sex-Tourist Headquarters, Phnom Penh
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Introduction:

If you have the money you better off going to the Philippines. The women are more attractive, travel is more comfortable and the country is a lot more beautiful. With money you can also get good service anywhere.

What I particularly liked about the trip in Cambodia was the level of service you can't normally get elsewhere this cheaply. They did not care about my looks or attitude. Often I did not even have to deal with them directly but just bought them from their owners. On other occasions they were simply well trained to serve, and they served well indeed.

However, I also got some bad service from proud, confident women who knew their power and the support they can get from the system. I always feel week when doing business with females. Simply there is so many bad things happening around them. Fighting, corruption, lies, even murders. They seem to be aware how divided men are when it comes to dealing with them.

It appears that men just love to kill and destroy each other when they come to competing for women. As a result we get such a poor deal that it is even silly. It can be different though, as you will see.

The following article is not just about Cambodia. But it's more about cooperation. In all countries men CAN work together to get a better deal for all of us. I liked that how well the little Viet girls served. It could be like that in all other countries. The blondes could serve us and so on, and so on. All it takes is some cooperation and education among men. Some understanding as well and working together for a common purpose. Maybe this FORUM is some kind of beginning.

By the way I am not a darwinist. I don't believe that everything came from fish and monkey and accidentally basic elements combined into intelligent form, therefore they are all equal: men and women. That is just a purposeful propaganda to keep you stupified.

And last but not least, please and help, let's do away with the course of the earth: child molesters. Let's give every man a healthy 19 and a half years old subservient, unspoilt and beautiful girl (or a dozen). Make him to fuck them until he drops. Guaranteed, he won't want to fuck a kid any more.
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Contents:

Part 1: Cambodia general
Part 2: Phnom Penh
Part 3: Stories
Part 4: North of Phnom Penh
Part 5: South of Phnom Penh
Part 6: Conclusion
Part 7: Maps
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Maximizing your fucking:

It is a widely popularized present day fallacy that you have to be popular with women in order to get regularly laid. Otherwise you are destined to a lifetime of misery and wanking by yourself in the closet. As I said it is "popularized" idea and for good one good reason: To further enhance the power of women in the world and to enslave all YOU by these false programmings. However, as I have investigated the matter a bit further, it is all solid lies and nothing could be further from the truth. See it for yourself:

I often meet people who seem to have all the prescribed necessities of 'life', however they are still dead miserable. They work, consume, copulate, breed and die according to their program. However there is one thing they are missing: Life.

In the following there may be some concepts seem strange to some. However you have to realize that the cause of this is merely your programming. Would you have been programmed a different way, you would feel different. So, it's all your fault, Mr. Robot. Get a real life and think for yourself.

First of all we all must stop listening to women. They lead us to no good. They advocate a life of violence and fighting. While men just want peace. We are no pit-dogs. We are intelligent human beings.

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How to improve your fucking?
Someone who fucks one **** a day does allright. Who fucks two cunts every day does even better. But the one who fucks 10 cunts a day does better than all. Maintining your performance for one year would yield you 3650 fucks a year! Wow, that's fantastic! And yes it is possible to do. All it needs is some planning and cooperating with your fellow men and everyone would be able to achieve such high fuck levels in ANY country and not just in Cambodia. Below are some more clues. All you need is a supportive male environment to practice PNF (point-and-fuck). Pattaya is not really set up for PNF yet. You have to look further.
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Cambodia Sex Guide By The "World Sex-Tourist Headquarters"

General information:

Location: South East Asia, land bordering Thailand, Vietnam and Laos

Capital city: Phnom Penh

Major cities: Battambang, Siem Reap, Sihanoukville, Kompong Cham

Official language: Khmer (Cambodian), numerous English, Thai and Chinese speakers in tourist centres

Currency: Riel, USD, THB (1USD =4000 Riels, 1THB=100 Riels approx.)

Climate: Tropical, hot, humid year round

Visa: 30 days tourist permit obtainable on arrival at all intl. airports and most land crossings. Visa on arrival is not available at Laos border. Scams by officials at borders to extract extra fees are common. Officially the tourist visa costs USD $20. Cambodian embassies and consulates abroad can also issue tourist visas for $20 +$5 fee for same day processing.

The embassy in Bangkok is on Ratchadamnoen Road, near Lumpini stadium. Lodge visa application between 9-12 am, pick up visa same day 5-6 pm. Need one passport foto and copy of passport data page.

Ports of entry: by air- Phnom Penh and Siem Reap. Flights from: Bangkok, KL, Hanoi, Vientiane, Saigon, etc.
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Expected costs of travel (in years 2005-2006):
hotel from approx $10/night,
food from approx. $10/day,
beer approx. $1/lge bottle
fucking meat: approx. $4-15/pop
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Points of interest:
Massage salons, pickup bars, brothels, etc. Also, some people visit Angkor Wat (it is overrated and not particularly recommended).

Public security/dangers, annoyances:
Very basic conditions countrywide, few luxuries of comfort (except in Phnom Penh), poor sanitation, poor food hygiene, poor public security, basic medical facilities, bad roads, poorly maintained vehicles, chaotic traffic conditions. High risk of injury, sickness or death. Travel at own risk.
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Border crossing by land:

From Thailand there are 5 (five) official border crossings open for all nationals. However here will only be 3 detailed.

Border crossing towns from the Thai side:
1.Aranya Pratet (Poipet at Cambodian side)
2.Chantaburi (Phsa Prom checkpoint, Pailin town at Cambodian side)
3.Trat (Cheam Yeam checkpoint, Koh Kong town at Cambodian side)
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1. Aranya Pratet

Getting there and away:

Direct train from Bangkok several times a day. Also bus from Mo Chit2. Bus from Khorat (change at Kabinburi). Bus from Mukdahan (Lao border). Also now there are 2 daily direct buses from Pattaya BKS station (7am, 9am).

Border crossing:

From Aranya town frequent truck runs to border about 10 km, 10Baht. Moto taxi 40 baht. You simply walk over border and you are in middle of Poipet Cambodian town. Lots of hassles from moto and taxi drivers. It's a crappy place but has accomodation, restaurants and an extensive brothel area with good quality meat. Have taxi and bus connections to Siem Reap, Battambang, Pailin and Phnom Penh.

From Poipet again you walk through the gates. No hassle at all on Thai side. Shared truck waiting on left. Some motos nearby. Many decent and clean hotels in Aranya. Also good night market. The ice-cream vendor is especially good with many types of home made fruit sherbet for 10 baht. Bus station has many comfortable aircon buses to Bkk. Or you can bypass Bangkok by getting off at Kabinburi and changing bus to Khorat or Udon.
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2. Chantaburi

Getting there and away:

Several daily buses from Ekamai, Bkk. Travel about 4 hours. Also buses from Pattaya. Catch them on Sukhumvit road, near Nakornchai Air bus station. Also buses every half an hour from Rayong.

Border crossing:

From Chantaburi the border is about 70 km away at Pakkard (no town, just a checkpoint). Several departure points for minibuses leaving for the border. Bus waits until full (morning is best). On point is across the bridge, past River Guesthouse. Another in the carpark of Bangkok Bank, near Chai Lee Hotel. Another at SW corner of King Taksin Park. All charge 140 baht.

Or you can wait for the white songthaew that passes in front of the bus station. It takes you to Klong Yai (official price 47 baht). From there moto 40 baht to Pakkard (4km). In Pakkard you stamp out on Thai side, walk 50 metres on dirt road, get visa on Cambo side.

Moto to Pailin town is 100 baht (25 km). Taxi is 200 baht/car. Road is very dusty and bad but scenery is great. Pailin has accomodation and meat. (See separate Pailin section).

From Pailin: Many moto at the markets. Say you want to go to "Phsa Prum" (border). (When you come in at the border there are many drivers who speak English, but not so at the markets.) Cost 100B. Same stamp out/in again. From the Pakkard borderpoint there is no direct transport further, except a taxi for 1200 baht. However, waiting motos take you to Klong Yai (4km) for 30-40 baht. From there songthaew every hour to Chantaburi, 70 km. Regular fare is 47 baht but drivers may try to charge foreigners 100 baht. Drops you off in Chantaburi bus terminal, near town centre. From there you can walk to hotels.

There is a fantastic night food market and it is an interesting town (possibly the size of Phnom Penh). There are 2 soapy massage parlours next to the lake and some karaokes. However, no guarantee that you will get good service. This is not Cambodia. From Chantaburi bus station many buses daily to Bkk, Pattaya or Rayong.
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3.Trat
Getting there and away:
About 5 daily buses from Ekamai, Bkk (same bus stops in Chantaburi and Pattaya or Rayong so you can catch it there too.) Approx. 5 hours trip. Trat bus station is just a few steps outside town, you can walk to hotels. Trat Hotel is very central.

Border crossing:

In front of Trat Hotel wait minibuses to Hat Lek bordertown. 1 hour trip, 100 baht. Leaving every hour. In Hat Lek the bus stop is right next to border. There is also a market and restaurants with good views. Stamp out Thai side, walk dirt-road, get Kanbo visa at Cheam Yeam checkpoint. There are lots of hassles from beggars, drivers and other strange characters on the Cambodian side. It is very intimidating. A moto to Koh Kong town is 50 baht (he pays bridge toll). 20 min trip. Many hotels in Koh Kong and cheap meat too. (See: Koh Kong section).

From Koh Kong: Most moto drivers will understand "Thai border" or say "Cheam Yeam". 50 baht again. Walk through Kanbo and Thai immigrations as before. On your right, past the Thai checkpoint is the minibus stand, in a fenced carpark. They leave every hour to Trat. In Trat your bus connection to Bkk is right next to where the minibus arrives or cross the road for direct bus to Pattaya (only 4 times a day).

There is not much to do in Trat but staying at Trat Hotel is convenient and clean, 200B/night. Right in front of hotel is a quite nice night market. In fact you can even sleep in Hat Lek town, right next to the border. Ask at any restaurant and some staff will vacate their room for you, for 100 baht a night. But it is not very safe and is very boring there.
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Phnom Penh

General:

Capital city of Cambodia. Population approx. 2 million people. Orientation: Situated next to the confluence of two rivers and next to one large lake.

Central area: around Psar Tmei (Central Markets).

Accomodation: Most convenient around Psar Tmei, abundance of hotels and guesthouses, $3-$30/night.

Food: Several tourist restaurants in area, meals from $3++, pizza from $3++ , Khmer restaurants from $1/dish (some have English menu)

Local transport: on back seat of motorbike taxis, fares 1000 riel short hop, up to $1 for longer trips. Little more at night.

Money: USD and Riel accepted everywhere, moneychangers around all markets and main streets. There are now several ATMs in Phnom Penh (and Siem Reap). Some banks cash Travellers Cheques in USD and other currencies.

Dangers and annoyances:
Streets are unlit. It is positively dangerous to wander around on foot at night, even in groups. At night always take a taxi or moto with a driver that you trust. Try not to get too drunk. Fix taxi fares and the cost of ALL services BEFOREHAND! (best if written down).

Traffic is chaotic with few rules, take care when crossing roads. Drink bottled water, avoid iced drinks, etc, etc…. Hassle from beggars and moto drivers can also be annoying. Perverts occasionally preying on sex-tourists can be a nuisance. Protect yourself, wear earplugs.

Getting there:
From airport to town motofare $2, taxi $7. From Thai border by land/sea transport to Phnom penh approx. 12 hours ++,
Several bus terminals located around Psar Tmei.
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Entertainment:
Poossy pumping, sex-bars, sucky bars, discos, chat bars (for the masochist), several printed visitors guides with detailed listings are available free of charge at hotels and also good maps.

Useful phone numbers:
tourist cops: 117 or 012-942-484
US embarassy: 023-216-436
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Sex in Phnom Penh Cambodia, an alternative approach:

Lots of new girlie bars opened since last year. Mostly around the old ones, st. 130, 104, 136, 118,108, 102, etc. However it is not all that good news. Since these bars are all CHAT bars! You chat with the women, and if THEY like you then you MAY barfine them. The concept sounds totally ridiculous though. You chat with women, you get braindamaged. It's that simple. Who can take the risk?

No new "sex-bars" opened recently. Still just the 3-4 old ones. Here the system is good: You sit down and you can fuck within 5 minutes, IRRESPECTIVE of your age, looks or charming personality or lack of such. These places are for men only!. No women customers ever enter. So lucky! A welcome refuge for an hour. The attendants are usually well trained and attentive. Service is satisfactory. They fuck you silly. That's what women are for isn't it? (And to clean the house of course.)

No doubts the CHAT bars flourish because there is demand for them. Some men seem to just want to 'chat' with women. Because that's how they were told by radio and television. In fact these CHAT bars are actually "SUCKY" bars. Except the deal is that the guys suck. Here the men serve the women. And they pay for the privilege.

However if you prefer to be served, there are better places to go. And for the price of a couple of beers you get meat and good service from devoted and very attractive females. Plus you save yourself from brain damage because you don't have to say as much as your name and they won't tell you about their life.

Find a good moto driver and he will show you those places. Sometimes you can fuck for $5, but usually under $10 everywhere. And the cunts are BEAUTIFUL! And as an added advantage they don't speak a word of English. Your mind will stay PURE! Also, as the management is often MALE, you will more likely get a good service. They will watch YOUR interest. Look out for Papasans. They more understand your side.

And the fucking cunts are so beautiful you will want to lick their toes. For your added joy you can share them with your Khmer, Chinese and other international brothers. What is greater than the joy of sharing? This is end of selfishness! Imagine that some other ugly, hairy, smelly man is going to fuck that beauty just 10 minutes after you! Isn't that great?

Sex industry gets lots of BAD publicity nowadays. Don't forget it all comes from women though. We all know they are famous for lying. It's all lies. We all must stop listening to women, today! And the world will be better for it.

Remember: Sex-Tourists You Are The Best!

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The meat of Cambodia

Basically two varieties:

1. Cambodian
2. Vietnamese
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1. Cambodian (ethnic Kmer)

Dark skinned, short body, strong arms and legs, very muscular buttocks. Typically not very slim but rather strongly built. Sizeable breasts are quite common. Nipples, **** lips dark brown. Can be very conservative about fucking (eg. no suck, no DATY, no kiss) but this varies.

2. ethnic Vietnamese

Light brown or very white skin. Delicate arms, legs. Often short body height but some can grow taller. Nipples, **** lips vary in color from brown to very light pinky pink. Usually more open about fuck. Almost all suck cock and kiss. Some licks ass too.

In either variety, tattoos or body jewellery is very rare. Few smoke cigarettes.

Generally the same applies as to Laos: Most girls are not as classy or attractive as for example Thais. This could be also due to poorer nutrition, wearing much less make-up and dressing in cheap clothes. However, in Thailand it is hard to get good service nowadays.
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Main types of fuck-venues available for devoted sex-tourist in Phnom Penh:

1.Hotel massage parlours
2. Fuck bars
3.Khmer brothels
4.Hairdressing salons
5.Chat bars
6. Music restaurants
7. Pickup bars/discos
8.Chicken shops
9.Karaokes

Massage Parlours at various hotels around town. Must be at least 10 or more. Usual price: Massage: $4-$5, fuck extra $10-$20 (you negotiate with ****). Room is usually comfortable hotel room, aircon. Mostly Khmer women. Some men don’t like it because there is so much shading around the deal. It is never sure whether she will fuck and at what price. I will not give locations. There are so many, anyway. It's easy to find them.

Fuck bars for foreigners. 3 or 4 in town. You buy drink and pay **** to fuck in room on-site. About $20 total cost, incl drinks, tips. Find them yourself. Not hard. Rooms can range from basic to luxury. Cunts usually are used to foreigners so service can be good. YOU WILL get a fuck here IRRESPECTIVE of your looks or character!

Khmer brothels: All over town. Mainly for local men. They pay around $2. If you go alone, you can get laid for $5, if with moto then minimum $10. Open all day, so you can actually walk there daytime once you found some. Someone will speak some English. Rooms can be grotty but varies. Service is a hit and miss. Can be basic or quite good. Look for papasans (male manager). You will get better service.

The cunts are often not used to foreigners but are very simple minded and usually keen to serve. Bot Khmer and Viets are available. Same stands here: YOU WILL get a fuck. The **** will not refuse you! So, if you are ugly, lame, bold, fat or smelly or all of the above, you have no self-confidence because you have been abused by women all your life, these are a good choice. Quite simply, you buy meat for cash. It's very good for all men. Absolutely no competition involved. You just join the queue. Locations I will not disclose here because of the women and perverts who could possibly interact and cause trouble.(Don't forget this is a crazy and evil world!). However your nice moto driver will know.

Hairdressing salons: You have to know which ones. Ask moto driver. You should really speak some Khmer to get serviced. Only in certain areas. Not all hairdresser shops in town offer the service!

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(had to post in 2 parts because of size limitations by forum)

Matt Navan Man
04-13-06, 11:34
The Most Complete Cambodian Fucking Guide
Copyright 2006 by United Sex-Tourist Headquarters, Phnom PenhI have never seen the offices of the 'United Sex-Tourist Headquarters' in Phnom Penh but with the amount of research Humble Turd presents it must be a seriously busy place. I do hope they have some form of NGO funding as it would be well deserved.

As a veteran visitor, and sometimes inhabitant of Phnom Penh, I would urge you not to completely overlook the "challenge" of some of the freelance girls in Phnom Penh. It's really not that much hassle 'scoring' one and gives you the chance to meet a girlie with whom you actually click which can lead to happier times back in the bedroom. Maybe it does get more challenging the older and broader you get but there's plenty for everyone around these parts. Just a thought.

Shamas
04-14-06, 07:15
http://www.yellowpages-cambodia.com/classification/

Mighty Spearsman
04-19-06, 09:25
I have some questions about sex in Cambodia. I know you'll probably think "Why don't you read the other threads in the forum?" , well the answer is I have.

So anyhow, How does it happen exactly? How do you choose a hotel? And then afterwards where do you find the girls? How are the girls in general? And lastly how much do you pay on average per night? Long time or short time? Which one do you believe is better? Thx in advance.
Surely you must be joking! If you had read the forum, you would not need to clog up the board with such a silly request.

And some of your questions are just plain dumb, such as asking "Long time or short time? Which one do you believe is better?" If your question is to ask whether you should spend a short time with a girl (and most likely one pop only) versus spending an entire night with a girl (and presumably at least two distinct sex sessions, if not more than two), well only you can answer that question.

And to ask the question "How are the girls in general?" - if you haven't figured out the answer to that by now, nothing that I could post would help you.

******************

In any case, you are lucky in that Humble Turd has written two outstanding posts right next to your post, which together give you more information than you'll ever need to know about getting laid in Cambodia.

Shamas
04-21-06, 03:53
Mighty S has his points, I'm just a kinder gentler older version. I know the reports have lots of fodder but if you read the longer reports you'll find some very good info. My reports are about 10 pages back and are very good IMHO :-). HTs are excellent.

Don't ask about what's better, vanilla or choclate, chicken or beef, it's what rocks your boat, not mine. Some like fudge also :-)

What are the girls like, they all have the required parts, mouth, puss and pooter, some have big enough tits to do them also. They love what you love because they love your money. As long as you pay them, they'll play with you. aka P4P. Most of the girls are educated in how to say what you want to hear, that's how they get your $$$.

Keep trying, you're bound to get some experience. When you get ready for your trip, post you ETA and see who's around so you can hook up and have a running partner.

Shamas

Ern123
04-22-06, 10:31
Humble Turd,

Your report "Cambodia fuck guide 1-2" is by far the best report I have read on his forum.

Clear-sighted, intelligent, humorous and well written.

So refreshing in a time when the forum is full of politically correct - semi feminists who don't realize moral is a chimaera.

Thanks again!

Hi Ern123,

Did you post a link to this report in the Cambodia "Reports of Distinction" thread?

Thanks,

Jackson

Bold Focker
05-16-06, 01:38
I will be coming to PP on the 15th July 06.

Would love to meet other English speaking colleagues to crack a beer or visit the entertainment centres of PP.

Bold Focker
05-28-06, 13:05
When I read through these reports from Cambodia all the charges are in dollars. I assume that the local currancy is accepted, by the girls!

When you take cash from a cash machine, do you get the option to have dollars or local currency?

Split Pin
05-28-06, 20:24
When I read through these reports from Cambodia all the charges are in dollars. I assume that the local currancy is accepted, by the girls!

When you take cash from a cash machine, do you get the option to have dollars or local currency?$US is used to pay for nearly everything in Cambodia (even your visa on arrival at the airport). Of course Riel is accepted but is only used for small change. If you want to use it everywhere, you can but be prepared to carry around a wheel barrow full of cash. $US are much easier.

Pak Mike
05-29-06, 00:23
The ATMs I have used spit out US$. Generally have never used local currency apart from where I accumulate some small change (notes) given as change from my US$ spent at the supermarket, usually use this to pay tuk tuks or motto drivers. Therefore never accumulate enough local currency to pay the girls.

Member #2041
05-29-06, 01:17
The currency of Cambodia is U.S. Paper money, with Cambodian Riel (4000 to the dollar) used to make change on the dollar. But good luck trying to change anything bigger than a $20 anywhere besides a bank.

Fast Eddie 48
05-29-06, 07:30
The currency of Cambodia is U.S. Paper money, with Cambodian Riel (4000 to the dollar) used to make change on the dollar. But good luck trying to change anything bigger than a $20 anywhere besides a bank.


to member #2041

The last time i was in cambodia i bring alot of one dollar and five dollar us bill
and some 20 baht ,most hotel have change in us bill and atm or bank is hard
to find in siem riep , Most shop or resturant will only give you change in riel
only .

fast eddie 48

Seraphim7
05-29-06, 10:54
ANZ [an Australian international bank] now has an extensive network of branches and ATMs in Cambodia. This page gives you their locations - http://www.anzroyal.com/importantinfo/countrybriefs/atmlocations.asp

The ATMs take international Visa and Mastercard etc and dispense dollars only. Usually they give $50s with the last $50 being 2x$20 and one $10. They operate 24 hours of course - just `like home

Samu Ray
06-07-06, 16:20
Siem Reap-Poipet highway.

Arnold Hard
06-08-06, 17:54
hey guys just wondering

Normally you guys buy condom from there or buy from your own country?

How much condom they selling?

Sorry dumb question.

Seraphim7
06-08-06, 18:46
Certainly there are local and international brands freely available - all the big supermarkets and the shops at Caltex gas stations sell international brands like Trojans

Dinghy
06-08-06, 18:52
raincoats are 1000R each or so (depending on quality and manufacture - Chinese seem to cost less)

The US$ is DEFACTO currency (as was noted elsewhere here - don't worry about COINS - they don't have any) You can get a slightly better rate from a money changer on the street (maybe 4300:1 maximum or so) I Usually take about 150 ONE dollar bills with me (plus a batch of 5 and 10) The 5's are for ST, the 10s are backup and then I have a minor supply of 1x100 and 2x50 for "emergency". REMEMBER - They will NOT take any US bill with ANY KIND OF TEAR ON IT, INK, or "very worn" and won't take CERTAIN older 100's (the ones that have been counterfeited "routinely" - the "small picture" bills) EVEN AT BANKS. Latest reports have an ATM at the baggage claim at PNH (otherwise, FEW AND FAR BETWEEN - none "outland" at all - or at least not 6 months ago)

That Poipet-Siem Riep pick-up shot is a lightly loaded one. Not exactly a "fun ride" in the heavy red clay dust (UNPAVED LATERITE DIRT ROAD) between Zwei and SR - you need a good dust mask to prevent serious inhalation and a long shower when you get in to wash it off. Note that most of the time the "border pickup trucks" only go to Zwei and then you need to get another from there (cab might be more expensive from the border but it is more confortable and goes "non-stop") last year there were CRATERS in the road large enough to SWALLOW that little truck

For those going back thru Koh Kong, you need to have SOME Baht - they (Thai) won't take Riel and are "reluctant" to even take $$ (oh, sure, maybe at 30B/$ they will). Once you hit Trat, the ATMs are prevalent so no problem. Returning thru Aran (Poipet) isn't a problem - ATMs are close to the bus/train station and so are a few banks plus in a pinch you can change $ for B at the casino

Bold Focker
06-11-06, 12:10
Is it easy to buy a sim card in PP, and do Uk phones work out there?

Does anyone know what frequency they work on?

Also do you need to registar phone, with proof of ID?

Fast Eddie 48
06-11-06, 22:50
Is it easy to buy a sim card in PP, and do Uk phones work out there?

Does anyone know what frequency they work on?

Also do you need to registar phone, with proof of ID?


to bold focker

Just buy a pre paid sim card is cheap less than $10.00 USD you need a tri or
quad band phone 900 or 1800 should work .

fast eddie 48

Matt Navan Man
06-11-06, 22:52
Is it easy to buy a sim card in PP, and do Uk phones work out there?

Does anyone know what frequency they work on?

Also do you need to registar phone, with proof of ID?UK mobiles will work over there but make sure it is not sim locked to your UK network. It will take you a little messing to get a SIM card though as they are registered against Khmer ID cards (too much hassle registering it in your own name for a holiday as you have to go to head office and wait). Find a friendly local to sort you out for the price of a small "present".

Also regarding your post on the Khmer immigration, it is my genuine belief that you would be the first person ever to enter Cambodia to actually be questioned as to how you were getting back out. Remember if you overstay it's good news for them as they fine you when you eventually leave.

On that same note has anyone come across the below? It appears that Cambodia has now moved into the E-Visa age. No chance of Matt giving his credit card details to any dodgy Cambodian government officials!

www.mfaic.gov.kh/

Pak Mike
06-11-06, 23:42
Is it easy to buy a sim card in PP, and do Uk phones work out there?

Does anyone know what frequency they work on?

Also do you need to registar phone, with proof of ID?

Best place to buy is the phone shop facing street in the ground floor of Sorya Mall. You will need your passport for ID, and hotel details.

Bold Focker
06-12-06, 00:22
Thanks for the info on mobile phones chaps, whilst we are on the subject, I want to buy a decent mp3 player, would this be cheaper in BKK or PP. My instinc tells me, it will be BKK, but solid info would help!

Also is it possible to hire motor bikes in PP, reading the forum I understand the roads are not the best, so perhaps a trial bike or something?

Fast Eddie 48
06-12-06, 07:42
Best place to buy is the phone shop facing street in the ground floor of Sorya Mall. You will need your passport for ID, and hotel details.


to pat mike

Bold flocker just want to get a prepaid sim card with his own unlock phone , You don't need a id for that do you .


fast eddie 48

Patterson
06-12-06, 10:16
Is it still 20USD for a visa & do i need any passport pics or just paperwork

many thanks

Roguesta
06-12-06, 17:27
It is still $20.00 (US). Don't give them a thousand baht note because they will accept it, but they won't give you change. If you don't already have passport photos, I wouldn't worry about it. They will charge you one dollar, and take your photo right there at the counter.

Matt Navan Man
06-12-06, 21:13
Bold flocker just want to get a prepaid sim card with his own unlock phone , You don't need a id for that do you.Afraid you do need the ID Eddie. Great work from Pat Mike to have found a shop willing to do it. As of four weeks ago I had to revert to the old work around of getting a local friend to sort one for me.

Johnson994
06-13-06, 21:48
Yep, it is too late.

There are worse ways to commit suicide I guess, just hope you didn't infect too many girls in return. Hopefully you just picked up one of the curable maladies.

Enjoy the antibiotics and good luck with "the" test.


Oh, and here's a link about circumcision and HIV infection:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4371384.stmI am not circumcized. I tested positive for Gonorrhea before I went to Cambodia and everything was negative at that time. I never went for more tests.

Patterson
06-18-06, 11:05
Hi All im booked on with airasia is it ok just to go to airport with Ref No & passport or do i have to print all the s**t out in the UK the Ref No is fine ?

Thanks

Shamas
06-18-06, 16:38
Hi All im booked on with airasia is it ok just to go to airport with Ref No & passport or do i have to print all the s**t out in the UK the Ref No is fine ?

Thanks

Just remember they enforce their luggage weight limits

Patterson
06-19-06, 05:03
Cheers Shamas

Ive seen it !!! I will be travelling pretty light anyway but Thanks anyway.

Bold Focker
06-21-06, 09:40
I am a non-smoker, and generally do not like smokey atmospheres. Is there anything like "no smoking" areas in Cambodia restaurants, or dare I say it pubs?

Matt Navan Man
06-22-06, 22:21
I am a non-smoker, and generally do not like smokey atmospheres. Is there anything like "no smoking" areas in Cambodia restaurants, or dare I say it pubs?

Is this a serious question?

Dragon1423
06-23-06, 00:37
Matt Navan Man,

Please stay home in your PC world, it would be much safer for you.

Good Day!

Dragon1423
06-23-06, 00:46
Bold Focker,

Not too Bold, Bold Focker! There is smoking in bars! Previous post was not for Matt Navan Man, but for you, please do stay home!

Good Day!

Montecristo
06-24-06, 11:21
My professional life only allows me to travel from august to October, i know this is the low season in Cambodia, when the weather will be bad.

My question is, is the rainy season, so bad, i really should avoid to go in these times ?

And more important, since its not the tourist season, most of places will have fewer girls ?

Thanks in advance

Fast Eddie 48
06-25-06, 03:21
[QUOTE=Montecristo]My professional life only allows me to travel from august to October, i know this is the low season in Cambodia, when the weather will be bad.

My question is, is the rainy season, so bad, i really should avoid to go in these times ?


weather in Cambodia is much like thailand nov to march is dry season and this
is the best time to go , Last time I was there is feb for 4 days only rain one
night for a short time but it is still very hot but cool night , Problem in going
on rainy season is the road condition will be bad most of the country have no
paved road so boat and flying is the way to go .


fast eddie 48

Shamas
06-26-06, 00:03
For your information it is good you know that most of the asian girls are smoking.

I like it. We like it!

Speak for yourself, smoking sucks. It's a dirty, nasty habit that kills many of its users. Smoking serves no purpose.

You can like smoking but do not say we like it because you don't speak for anyone except yourself.

Shamas O'Dognasty

Matt Navan Man
06-26-06, 23:24
Speak for yourself, smoking sucks. It's a dirty, nasty habit that kills many of its users. Smoking serves no purpose.


Shamas, I am a smoker but am totally with you on the below.

The ludicrous question that was asked was the original one from Bold Focker. In a country where most people struggle to get to tomorrow, where famine (albeit isolated) has occured this year and where endemic corruption threatens keep things this way it seems a strange question for the poster to have asked.

Fast Eddie 48
06-27-06, 04:36
I am a non-smoker, and generally do not like smokey atmospheres. Is there anything like "no smoking" areas in Cambodia restaurants, or dare I say it pubs?


to bold focker

If you are bother by the smoke you should not to pp , If the smoke don't kill
you the dust will .

fast eddie 48

Shamas
06-27-06, 05:10
I used to smoke regular cigarettes, illregular ones, cigars, pipes, pins, cans and foil. Can't think of anything or any way I haven't smoked (even after sex). Now that I don't smoke I can smell a smoker coming. Rooms where smoking takes place stink

I have one friend who just finished his radiation & kemo for throat cancer, he's back smoking (when he's not on the green bottle).

I have another friend who alternates between the green bottle and his favorite Marlboros.

I have lost 2 friends to lung cancer and one other lost his right lung.

Geeze, I wonder why I don't fire one up just to get that good ole nicotine rush.

Shamas O'D

Bold Focker
06-29-06, 01:42
Well I found out who smokes, why and when, and what it does to you, but I never found out if they have N/S areas in restaurants!

Matt Navan Man
06-29-06, 22:02
Well I found out who smokes, why and when, and what it does to you, but I never found out if they have N/S areas in restaurants!

Normally I wouldn't spell things out but I make an exception here.

No.

Retired Army
07-04-06, 18:46
I thought "smoking" was code for a blow job. It is in Thailand. If you want to know if a girl gives head you ask her if she smokes.

Retired Army
07-04-06, 18:49
My professional life only allows me to travel from august to October, i know this is the low season in Cambodia, when the weather will be bad.

My question is, is the rainy season, so bad, i really should avoid to go in these times ?

And more important, since its not the tourist season, most of places will have fewer girls ?

Thanks in advance

Same number of girls, less tourists. What else are the girls going to do during the rainy season than hang out in bars?

Montecristo
07-15-06, 00:54
People keep telling me i must get vaccination to a lot of things if i want to get to cambodia, Malaria, Thyphus, Hepatitis, whatever.

Is this a must ?

What do you that already went there do ? Ignore ?

Thanks in advance

Montecristo

Shamas
07-15-06, 02:10
People keep telling me i must get vaccination to a lot of things if i want to get to cambodia, Malaria, Thyphus, Hepatitis, whatever.

Is this a must ?

What do you that already went there do ? Ignore ?

Thanks in advance

Montecristo


Nothing needed for the major cities. If you'll be going to the country side and living with the locals then check the CDC and WHO.

Shamas O'D

Traveler1234
07-15-06, 02:51
People keep telling me i must get vaccination to a lot of things if i want to get to cambodia, Malaria, Thyphus, Hepatitis, whatever.

Is this a must ?

What do you that already went there do ? Ignore ?

Thanks in advance

Montecristo

I've posted this many times - get the following

Hep B vaccine, three shot regimen, months 1, 2 and 6
Hep A vaccine, two shot regime, months 1 and 6

Both are good for 10 years. Common sense also says make sure your tetanus is updated, every ten yrs a booster is needed.

Even if you're leaving in say 4 wks, get the first shots asap and finish when you come back. If you're off by a couple of weeks for 2nd and/or 3rd shots, not a major issue.

Montecristo
07-15-06, 12:15
I've posted this many times - get the following

Hep B vaccine, three shot regimen, months 1, 2 and 6
Hep A vaccine, two shot regime, months 1 and 6

Both are good for 10 years. Common sense also says make sure your tetanus is updated, every ten yrs a booster is needed.

Even if you're leaving in say 4 wks, get the first shots asap and finish when you come back. If you're off by a couple of weeks for 2nd and/or 3rd shots, not a major issue.



Thanks for the answers, the idea is going to Siem Rep and Phnom Phen.
I will be leaving in four weeks.
Sorry about my ignorance, but CDC and WHO are exactly what ?

Traveler1234
07-15-06, 13:05
Thanks for the answers, the idea is going to Siem Rep and Phnom Phen.
I will be leaving in four weeks.
Sorry about my ignorance, but CDC and WHO are exactly what ?

Did you google these two?

Center for Disease Control
World Health Organization

Polite RTFF (and don't ask what RTFF means - read the FAQ for ISG first!)

Now go get your shots!

Shamas
07-15-06, 16:24
Did you google these two?

Center for Disease Control
World Health Organization

Polite RTFF (and don't ask what RTFF means - read the FAQ for ISG first!)

Now go get your shots!


Polite RTFF translates to - Read the Forum Friend :-) I just had to add this because it is so rare to see a polite RTFF. I like the polite part, shows goodness.

Traveler's suggestions for immunizations is good common sense for any monger who travels to any 3rd world country. Typhoid Fever should also be considered (I don't remember seeing it listed, could have missed it)

A friend came back from PP with Typhoid Fever a few months ago and we now understand it's quite common.

Shamas O'D

Traveler1234
07-15-06, 16:41
Polite RTFF translates to - Read the Forum Friend :-) I just had to add this because it is so rare to see a polite RTFF. I like the polite part, shows goodness.

Shamas O'D

Greetings Shamas.

Re vaccination - i strongly urge anyone doing any international travel. In fact, even if you never leave home, never hurts to get both Hep A & B. It's been over 20 years that Hep B is mandatory for all new borns in almost every asian country (as in states), which means that prevalency of Hep B in Asia has been reduced dramatically.

Hep A is relatively 'new', around less than 10 yrs but especially important to those who are still carriers of Hep B.

On the technical side, note this:

Hep B
- efficacy is normally 90+%.
- first two shots provide protection, third shot is for memory cells (think of it as a 'booster'.
- since you're leaving in 4 wks, if you rush to get 1st shot, can get 2nd before you board plane. These two shots will probably give you the protection required.

Hep A
- efficacy also in 90+% range
- 1st shot efficacy
- 2nd shot combo efficacy/protection and memory.

If you're not sure if protected after completion of shots, get tested for antibodies. If you have both A and B antibodies, that means vaccine worked. For the small percentage of those that don't test positive, consult your doctor re getting re-vaccinated, etc.

Side-effects: fairly minimal, you can read complete details when you do a google search.

This advice comes from someone who is a Hep B carrier since birth, can no longer drink for same reason, and intimately involved in establishing the Hep B vaccination programs in several asian countries back in the early '80's...

PLUS the usual disclaimer - consult with your physician, I am not a doctor.


Re polite RTFF: Read the FRIENDLY Forum :)

Btw, does anyone know what FAQ means...LOL

Shamas
07-16-06, 05:12
Shamas,

I already told you: most Asian girls are smoking !

I like it !....We like it !


Dear paul,

We all know SEA girls are smoking hot. BUT your original posting was fully supporing SEA girls smoking tobacco products.

If you're going to tell me something, do it wlth intelligence.

Shamas O'Dognasty
Gourmet Catering &
Septic Tank Cleaning

Shamas
07-17-06, 04:35
Greetings Shamas.

Re vaccination - i strongly urge anyone doing any international travel. In fact, even if you never leave home, never hurts to get both Hep A & B. It's been over 20 years that Hep B is mandatory for all new borns in almost every asian country (as in states), which means that prevalency of Hep B in Asia has been reduced dramatically.

Hep A is relatively 'new', around less than 10 yrs but especially important to those who are still carriers of Hep B.

On the technical side, note this:

Hep B
- efficacy is normally 90+%.
- first two shots provide protection, third shot is for memory cells (think of it as a 'booster'.
- since you're leaving in 4 wks, if you rush to get 1st shot, can get 2nd before you board plane. These two shots will probably give you the protection required.

Hep A
- efficacy also in 90+% range
- 1st shot efficacy
- 2nd shot combo efficacy/protection and memory.

If you're not sure if protected after completion of shots, get tested for antibodies. If you have both A and B antibodies, that means vaccine worked. For the small percentage of those that don't test positive, consult your doctor re getting re-vaccinated, etc.

Side-effects: fairly minimal, you can read complete details when you do a google search.

This advice comes from someone who is a Hep B carrier since birth, can no longer drink for same reason, and intimately involved in establishing the Hep B vaccination programs in several asian countries back in the early '80's...

PLUS the usual disclaimer - consult with your physician, I am not a doctor.


Re polite RTFF: Read the FRIENDLY Forum :)

Btw, does anyone know what FAQ means...LOL


Fat Ass Queer :-)

Just ask um.

so many new guys read one or two pages than start to asking question after question. When I go someplace new I'll read for hours, mostly skipping the short posting and look for the longer ones. Then I'll ask a few questions.

Shamas O'D

Matt Navan Man
07-17-06, 22:05
Dear paul,
If you're going to tell me something, do it wlth intelligence.

Shamas

Paulo - how kind your response to Shamas is. I've read your original post ten times trying to find another meaning to "I like it" - I didn't find one lol.

Matt

Shamas
07-18-06, 05:35
I wrote most Asians girls are smoking.

I take that you know what is meant with "smoking",
surely no tobacco.

In other words I like it when they suck me !

I realy like it.......

Paulothai

Time to drop the subject, I'm done with it

Dveight Bar
07-18-06, 09:20
Now that ATM's are available I have updated my list and location map of where they are and when they are available.

Phnom Penh has 26 ATM's and Siem Reap 7.

http://www.dv8-cambodia.com/atm-machine-in-phnom-penh.html.

Hope this is useful.

Oosik1
07-31-06, 19:11
Now that ATM's are available I have updated my list and location map of where they are and when they are available.

Phnom Penh has 26 ATM's and Siem Reap 7.

http://www.dv8-cambodia.com/atm-machine-in-phnom-penh.html.

Hope this is useful.Thanks for the ATM info. That is very helpful. I have printed it out and will bring it with me, and no doubt spend lots of money at DV8.

Azn Playa
08-12-06, 04:00
I have a special girl living in Cambodia whom I visit regularly.

Her English is not strong and she has someone help her write emails to me. Recently she sent one detailing problems her family is having and part of it said this:

"My old sister she stay in the monkey house. now I hope you can understan everything that I say and what I mean"

Of course there was a lot more to it than this, but I cant quite understand the "monkey house" part.

Is there anyone here who lives in Cambodia or knows it well who can say what this means?

Im guessing it means 'jail' but im not sure.

Waffles
08-12-06, 10:24
Just an outside guess - a Chinese friend of mine often confuses monk with monkey.

Azn Playa
08-12-06, 17:20
I have received another email and there is another reference to 'monkey house' pertaining to another individual she knows.

Because of this and the nature of the wording in the bulk of the text, I'm now almost certain that it means jail

Anyone that still wants to add their opinions to this and my last post, please feel free to do so.

Tazzy Devil
08-13-06, 05:32
I have received another email and there is another reference to 'monkey house' pertaining to another individual she knows.

Because of this and the nature of the wording in the bulk of the text, I'm now almost certain that it means jail

Anyone that still wants to add their opinions to this and my last post, please feel free to do so.I have heard a lot of Thai's say "he/she go monkey house" meaning that they have gone to jail so in Cambodia it probably mean the same.

Have you tried asking her why she in monkey house? This may explain thing a bit better.

Prince Harry
08-13-06, 12:50
I have heard a lot of Thai's say "he/she go monkey house" meaning that they have gone to jail so in Cambodia it probably mean the same.

Have you tried asking her why she in monkey house? This may explain thing a bit better.The monkey house is the jail.

Matt Navan Man
08-14-06, 23:48
Of course there was a lot more to it than this, but I cant quite understand the "monkey house" part.

Is there anyone here who lives in Cambodia or knows it well who can say what this means?

Im guessing it means 'jail' but im not sure.

My Cambodian contacts are saying they see no reason that it should mean jail when you translate it into Khmer.

That said it's hard to guess what else it might mean. Perhaps it's a synonym for Sophie's in which case you might consider paying her sister a visit!

Azn Playa
08-15-06, 11:04
My Cambodian contacts are saying they see no reason that it should mean jail when you translate it into Khmer.

That said it's hard to guess what else it might mean. Perhaps it's a synonym for Sophie's in which case you might consider paying her sister a visit!The girl is vietnamese.

Put into the context of 2 emails from her, its almost certainly referring to jail.

The other posters are correct

Phantomtiger2
08-18-06, 17:54
I was just reading some other travel sites (non-mongering ones) and they had links for US/UK travelers warnings.
I was a bit shocked at everything that was written about Phenom Phen and Sihanoukville and Koh Kong (Thai border).

US/UK embassy warnings:
Advised ALL foreign visitors:
1)never walk at night anywhere in PP or Sihan.
2)always use a trusted moto/cyclo driver at night
3)shootouts are very common
4)muggings and armed robbery are common at anytime but more so at night.
5)Cambodia is a "lawless land"

After reading all the warnings one can picture Cambodia as the Old wild west in the US--with gun fights and "lawlessness" everywhere.
All this contradicts what we mongers are after. Mainly, mongers usually (not always) do our duties at sundown (evenings and nites) as most places are open later in evenings.
We dont hire moto drivers for the entire day but will need one at nite as we walk out of mongering hole (so dont really know if driver is "trusted" or not--most of the times, may have never seen them before).
Muggings at nite while walking ?--Not heard of any mongers here having trouble--perhaps unreported?

Whats your take on just how dangerous these places in Cambo?
What do you say about these "dangerous times in Cambodia?
Hype vs Reality.--the truth is usually found in between.

Matt Navan Man
08-18-06, 18:02
Advised ALL foreign visitors:
1)never walk at night anywhere in PP or Sihan.
2)always use a trusted moto/cyclo driver at night
3)shootouts are very common
4)muggings and armed robbery was common at anytime but more so at night.
5)Cambodia is a "lawless land"


I'd say anyone who reads this and believes it should stay far far away.

For the rest of us if you are not a complete muppet you'll be fine!

Matt Navan Man
08-18-06, 18:13
The girl is vietnamese.



Apologies for thinking that a "girl" you would mention in the Cambodia forum was Cambodian.

Phantomtiger2
08-18-06, 22:12
I just cant believe it.
First : All the damn news reports are hacking away at my beloved Thailand since the Bennett murder suspect was caught in BKK. (Thailand is evil, all men go there for the Thai children, cheap sex, etc. etc.) Thai govt was getting such a bad rap over this that there are already hints about crackdowns and toughening on the sex trade in LOS.
Now, I'm reading about all these govt warnings about Cambodia.--Hype?
Feels like the mongering net is tightening around South East Asia--IMO

PT

Azn Playa
08-19-06, 08:00
Apologies for thinking that a "girl" you would mention in the Cambodia forum was Cambodian.Most of the girls I come across in Cambodia are Vietnamese, and is the main reason I go there.

And I'm not sure why you used quotation marks around "girl". if it makes you feel better i will use "woman" instead. Its just that 19-20 year olds dont come across as women to me.

Member #3410
08-19-06, 10:31
Yep - It does mean Jail

Kiwis use that term all the time.

Matt Navan Man
08-19-06, 19:10
And I'm not sure why you used quotation marks around "girl".

I used quotation marks as I was quoting you.

Daring Mood
08-21-06, 10:55
POSTED ON PHILIPPINES, THAILAND, MALAYSIA, CAMBODIA, CHINA FORUMS

Guys
I want to buy a ring with one of the above precious stones (don't ask me why?).
In your travels can you advise which country / city in your experience offers best quality / prices?

TIA
Daring Mood

Member #2041
08-21-06, 17:13
Daring, if you REALLY know what you are doing, and are qualified to examine the stones and know how to tell fakes or flawed stones from good ones, the answer is Thailand. If, however, you do not have this expertise, I am willing to bet that you will get scammed. And Myanmar is better still than any of the countries you listed. But again, it is purely a buyer-beware type of market, and buyers lacking in expertise in what they are buying will almost surely be conned.

BTW, the only stones that are best to purchase in Thailand and Myanmar are Rubies and Sapphires, as those stones mostly come from this region. Diamonds mostly come from Africa and India, and are traded in Belgium and Israel. Emeralds mostly come from Brazil and neighboring South American countries.

Shamas
08-22-06, 02:38
Daring, if you REALLY know what you are doing, and are qualified to examine the stones and know how to tell fakes or flawed stones from good ones, the answer is Thailand. If, however, you do not have this expertise, I am willing to bet that you will get scammed. And Myanmar is better still than any of the countries you listed. But again, it is purely a buyer-beware type of market, and buyers lacking in expertise in what they are buying will almost surely be conned.

BTW, the only stones that are best to purchase in Thailand and Myanmar are Rubies and Sapphires, as those stones mostly come from this region. Diamonds mostly come from Africa and India, and are traded in Belgium and Israel. Emeralds mostly come from Brazil and neighboring South American countries.

you're right, you're not wrong, you sure are right. I just wrote a reply to his request on the Cambo board.

Shamas O'D

Bold Focker
08-22-06, 22:11
My originally post to find out if there were any non-smoking venues in Cambodia.
Well the conclusion is “very limited”.

But all was not bad, as most venues have large fans circulating the air, and with the door and windows open, the smoke is mostly blown out.

Also, only about 10% of girls smoke, compared to the UK it is about 30%.

So all in all it was a very good and enjoyable two weeks.


I am a non-smoker, and generally do not like smokey atmospheres. Is there anything like "no smoking" areas in Cambodia restaurants, or dare I say it pubs?

Hollow Man
08-24-06, 07:09
Last night I was a little offput. I found out one of the guys (J) was going bareback with his girl for 5 days. Young guy and apparently he thought his girl was a nice girl. I found that out from this guy's friend (K) so I let (K) know that the girl has been a working girl for about 4 years now and there is an unconfirmed (from reliable local source) report that she has HIV.

This depressed me some but again I guess the occasional warning should still be put out. Bleh.

On a side note I talk to alot of the punters which hop into Martini and Sharky's and it seems like at least 50% have herpes. Either oral or genital but none seems to take valtrex or anything for it. They are ok with just pausing their activities when there is an outbreak. Does this sound about right?

Member #2041
08-24-06, 18:03
Last night I was a little offput. I found out one of the guys (J) was going bareback with his girl for 5 days. Young guy and apparently he thought his girl was a nice girl. I found that out from this guy's friend (K) so I let (K) know that the girl has been a working girl for about 4 years now and there is an unconfirmed (from reliable local source) report that she has HIV.

This depressed me some but again I guess the occasional warning should still be put out. Bleh.

On a side note I talk to alot of the punters which hop into Martini and Sharky's and it seems like at least 50% have herpes. Either oral or genital but none seems to take valtrex or anything for it. They are ok with just pausing their activities when there is an outbreak. Does this sound about right?

No, I don't believe that they pause their activities when they have an outbreak.

Praise The Loard
09-06-06, 06:36
Hi all,

I've never been to PP before. I've been to Thailand, Vietnam and Philipines. I'm viet and wondering if there any trouble if I goto PP? I.E. Do Cambodia people get along with Viet?

Thank you

Buko Max
09-06-06, 16:34
There are many Vietnamese living in Cambodia and you should have no trouble.
Being Viet yourself you should blend in quite nicely.
Try it......... you might like it!

Excelsior

Dick Little
09-16-06, 00:29
Hi all,

I've never been to PP before. I've been to Thailand, Vietnam and Philipines. I'm viet and wondering if there any trouble if I goto PP? I.E. Do Cambodia people get along with Viet?

Thank youThere is no raci$m in p4p! As the saying goes "Money talk".

I'm Khmere!

Have Pun!:)

Phantomtiger2
09-18-06, 17:53
Did a search but didnt have a post on this on the Cambo thread.
Plan to rent a moto (100cc--I think) when I visit Sinoukville and Koh kong -Dont plan to rent one in PP as traffic is chaos.
With all the reports of possible bikes being stolen in Sinouk. and elsewhere, should I purchase insurance with the moto rental as not sure if its available, also may need to cover damage as the dirt roads could damage suspensions etc and I'll get the blame anyway for repairs.
If available, how much is the insurance?

And lastly, are the motobikes auto or manual shift?
Thanks

PT

Botaki6
09-20-06, 04:24
Would suggest buy a solid chain and a big lock, as the standard ones can be broken easily. Even with insurance, a stolen bike is more trouble then fun.

The small step-through bikes are all "automatik". Just remember if you are used to drive in Thailand: here it's driving on the right side.

Dinghy
09-20-06, 04:30
Did a search but didnt have a post on this on the Cambo thread.
Plan to rent a moto (100cc--I think) when I visit Sinoukville and Koh kong -Dont plan to rent one in PP as traffic is chaos.
With all the reports of possible bikes being stolen in Sinouk. and elsewhere, should I purchase insurance with the moto rental as not sure if its available, also may need to cover damage as the dirt roads could damage suspensions etc and I'll get the blame anyway for repairs.
If available, how much is the insurance?

And lastly, are the motobikes auto or manual shift?
Thanks

PT
Depending on where you stay in Snooky, some hotels let you bring in the bike for the night - in fact where I stayed, they woke me up to get the key to the chain and fork lock to move it in. Roads aren't bad enough to need repair insurance unless you itend to go off road. Didin't see insurance avail where I rented - close to the bus station on the road to Ocheuteal maybe 100m after the shell gas station. The hotel across the street from the Shell is where I stayed. $5 fan room with refrig and TV (10 AC) Traffic is mayhem and is bad around the time school lets out. You need 4 pairs of eyes - L, R , F and REAR Almost wiped out against a local with 4 kids on a small bike. Those actually get up to about 80kph out on the road where it is flat (110cc honda wave) - if you have a helmet take it they don't have any. if you know where to rent in KK post please - I never figured it out

Phantomtiger2
09-20-06, 18:04
if you know where to rent in KK post please - I never figured it out

Thanks.
I just use the bad roads and damages as an example but really more concern with some idiot knocking over the bike or damaging it while parked and I'm inside somewhere not looking at it--I suspect all damages will be paid by me, thats why I wanted to know if any sort of insurance available?

I'll be in KK either end of NOV or Dec. I'll take a look around and post answers when I can where the bikes are available for rental.

PT

Sukhumvit Sam
09-22-06, 02:15
Adultery now a "criminal offense" in Cambodia:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/5349382.stm

SS

Schlonger
09-23-06, 13:15
Hi,

I am going to be travelling to Cambodia soon. First stop will be SR and then onto PP. I am thinking of taking a boat trip to get there. Can anyone advise:

1. How much does it cost?
2. How long will it take?
3. Where do you reserve and buy the tickets?
4. Is it all one class?

Thanks a lot

Schlonger

Fast Eddie 48
09-23-06, 23:31
Hi,

I am going to be travelling to Cambodia soon. First stop will be SR and then onto PP. I am thinking of taking a boat trip to get there. Can anyone advise:

1. How much does it cost?
2. How long will it take?
3. Where do you reserve and buy the tickets?
4. Is it all one class?

Thanks a lot

Schlonger


to Schlonger

The new highway open few yr ago bus is better way to go ask for aircon bus is about 4 hr cost $ 6 USD each way , Most hotel in SR can book for you , fast boat trip is longer 6 hr cost $20 usd ,Best way is share taxi with 4 people
or less for about $12 usd .

fast eddie 48

Azn Playa
09-24-06, 05:35
Did a search but didnt have a post on this on the Cambo thread.

Plan to rent a moto (100cc--I think) when I visit Sinoukville and Koh kong -Dont plan to rent one in PP as traffic is chaos.

With all the reports of possible bikes being stolen in Sinouk. and elsewhere, should I purchase insurance with the moto rental as not sure if its available, also may need to cover damage as the dirt roads could damage suspensions etc and I'll get the blame anyway for repairs.

If available, how much is the insurance?

And lastly, are the motobikes auto or manual shift?

Thanks

PTUnless you crashed the bike, the suspension will be fine.

I've never had the suspension checked after bringing the bike back.

They usually just have a quick look for cosmetic damage.

Bikes get stolen every week in SVille, and it would ruin your holiday for sure. Youve got to be careful where you park your bike (esp. At night) and never leave it alone for too long.

Your hotel should be able to guard it for you, but if they can't, I wouldnt leave it out overnight.


Depending on where you stay in Snooky, some hotels let you bring in the bike for the night - in fact where I stayed, they woke me up to get the key to the chain and fork lock to move it in. Roads aren't bad enough to need repair insurance unless you itend to go off road. Didin't see insurance avail where I rented - close to the bus station on the road to Ocheuteal maybe 100m after the shell gas station. The hotel across the street from the Shell is where I stayed. $5 fan room with refrig and TV (10 AC) Traffic is mayhem and is bad around the time school lets out. You need 4 pairs of eyes - L, R , F and REAR Almost wiped out against a local with 4 kids on a small bike. Those actually get up to about 80kph out on the road where it is flat (110cc honda wave) - if you have a helmet take it they don't have any. if you know where to rent in KK post please - I never figured it outI've taken Honda Waves offroad and even though the track was messed up it didnt damage the bike.

Once i came off (with a girl on the back) when a truck came around a corner on the wrong side and i had to ditch the bike.

As the bike wasnt new they didnt even mention the scratches (but it was only a dirt road though).

Dont rent a bike that is new or looks new - then a few marks on it will go unnoticed.

Have never thought of SVille as having 'traffic mayhem'.

But then im used to PP traffic. If you have a reasonable amount of experience in riding motorbikes its easy.

But if you come off without a helmet, you could be in trouble.

A few years ago a guy i know was killed there when a car didnt see his bike and drove into him.

If a wave is tuned well, it can hit 100km/h.

The highways are very dangerous with the trucks and buses which barrel down these roads.

I've been lucky, but in hindsight was crazy to ride these roads without a helmet, if at all.

Botaki6
09-25-06, 02:37
Thanks.
...II'll take a look around and post answers when I can where the bikes are available for rental.

PT

www.bluefroghotel.com = they do have all sorts of bikes for rent. Expat-run.

Phantomtiger2
09-25-06, 23:52
www.bluefroghotel.com = they do have all sorts of bikes for rent. Expat-run.


Thanks, check the website and got a good laugh when I saw a picture of an e-scooter for rent.
I rode one at home before for fun and its a pain riding on paved roads, cant imagine riding that on unpaved roads in KK.--ha ha

PT

Phantomtiger2
10-02-06, 19:16
As I will need to recharge certain electrical items when I get to Cambodia. I am aware that its 220v but not sure what is the size and shape of the electrical prongs that plug into the wall outlet? Not sure if my current set of adapters may or may not include this already.

PT

Tazzy Devil
10-03-06, 07:33
As I will need to recharge certain electrical items when I get to Cambodia. I am aware that its 220v but not sure what is the size and shape of the electrical prongs that plug into the wall outlet? Not sure if my current set of adapters may or may not include this already.

PTSame outlets as the ones in Thailand if that is any help.

Dveight Bar
10-04-06, 02:22
As I will need to recharge certain electrical items when I get to Cambodia. I am aware that its 220v but not sure what is the size and shape of the electrical prongs that plug into the wall outlet? Not sure if my current set of adapters may or may not include this already.

PTHeres a site that might help.

http://www.dv8-cambodia.com/electrical%20plugs%20in%20cambodia.htm

Phantomtiger2
10-04-06, 22:21
Heres a site that might help.

http://www.dv8-cambodia.com/electrical%20plugs%20in%20cambodia.htm


Damn,
The picture showed just about every type of plug in the world. No wonder PP have so many electrical blackouts as everyone's plugging in whatever they want and shorting everything--LOL
Thanks guys, the fact that it uses same as Thailand means I have the adapter already.

PT

Bill Bradsky
10-12-06, 22:22
Cambodia
From the PP Post:

Adultery law draws praise and fire.

The government's attempt to control the love affairs of its citizens may be divorced from reality, a range of analysts and legal experts have told the Post.

Some have said the legal definitions are unrealistic, its pleas to morality archaic and that the revenue required to implement such a law would be as costly as lipstick on the collar.

Article 7 of the so-called "one husband, one wife" law has been approved by the National Assembly and the Senate. If it passes the final steps to legislation - the Constitutional Council and the King- it would make breaking one's wedding vows a crime.

Such "bedroom legislation" would make having an extramarital affair in punishable by up to a year in jail and fines of up to one million riel.

For the proponents of the law - said to be a group of female CPP parliamentarians and the wives of high-ranking CPP officials - the mandate is a symbolic move to heighten moral standards. Critics claim it is a blunt political tool aimed at emasculating certain rival politicians with longstanding and much-publicized liaisons.

"This law was tailor-made for Prince Ranariddh," opposition leader Sam Rainsy told the Post on September 26. "It is for all the princes who pretend to be politicians - most prominent royals could go to jail."

The complexities of implementing legislation to improve social morality has led Mu Sochua, a key figure in Cambodia's women's rights movement, to question the efficacy of this approach to social improvement.

"If my husband has committed adultery he doesn't automatically go to jail unless I file a law suit," said Sochua, former Minister of Women's Affairs and a Sam Rainsy parliamentarian. "So as a woman I have to be aware that the law is a tool for me to take action against my husband."

Awareness of the new law as well as the courage to wield it will be required to ensure it helps Cambodia's women, said Khat Sokhim, 28, a popular singer and actress.

"The law will only be significant if women are brave enough to file a complaint against their husbands," she said. "Women in our culture are very patient and give too much freedom to their husbands as they are dependent on them for their survival."

The government intends to educate all Cambodian women on the applications of the measure and hopes to instil the confidence to use it, said CPP parliamentarian Cheam Yeap.

"We have to spread information on the law across the country to make sure people in rural areas are aware of it," he said. "Then it can be implemented effectively."

Sokhim said that women, particularly those with jobs that leave them vulnerable to unwanted sexual advances, such as beer girls and singers, could stand to benefit from the new legislation.

"Beer girls and singers are often targets for rich, married men," Sokhim said. "This law will limit the freedom of husbands to pursue love affairs with other girls."

Contemporary cultural traditions in Cambodia - for example, the phenomenon of acid attacks as revenge for infidelity and the propensity of "second wife" syndrome - often mean it is the mistress not the unfaithful husband who suffers the most severe repercussions from an affair, Sokhim said.

The new law, in creating the legal means to punish infidelity, will benefit wives and penalize errant husbands, she said.

"The adultery law will benefit women more than men," she said. "If women know about the law and how to use it they will be able to keep their husbands in check or protect themselves from unwanted advances from married men."

The potential benefits of this new legislation do not mitigate the fact that it is entirely unconstitutional, said Heang Rithy, president of the Cambodian National Research Organisation.

"This law is closing the rights and freedoms of people contrary to international conventions and to the UN declarations of Human Rights," he said.

Sochua said that making the new law workable will require a considerable investment of time and resources.

"Women will have to be given some kind of moral, legal, and financial support mechanisms," she said. "It is a very difficult thing to file a lawsuit against your husband."

It may be difficult to use the new law at first, said Pann Navy, a professional singer and actress, but it will ultimately give women more power over their husbands than they have ever enjoyed previously.

"Husbands in Cambodia are often unfaithful to their wives," she said. "Wives always worry about their husband's affairs but previously they have had no choice but to accept them - this law will change this."

The law declares that it is intended to improve the state of marital relationships in Cambodia.

"[It will] protect the dignity of individuals, strengthen harmony and happiness within the family, and improve respect between husband and wife," the law states.

Navy said it introduces the court system into the family realm as a dispute resolution mechanism.

"With this new law, husbands or wives will be able to complain to the court if one of them is unfaithful," she said.

But Sochua said whether this new ability to launch legal proceedings against unfaithful spouses will serve to improve the quality of marital relationships is debatable.

"It is a criminal lawsuit against your own husband," she said. "A woman who files a complaint will have to come up with very clear evidence, it could be even more complicated than divorce proceedings."

Azn Playa
10-14-06, 07:08
Sounds pretty bad to me - guess I wont be getting married anytime soon then!

If women want this law to be put into affect, then they need to be ready for a wave of divorces.

Fast Eddie 48
10-31-06, 23:51
New today a San francisco police shot himself to dead in Cambodia jail after he was accused of sex abuse of a 14 yr old girl .

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15491704/



fast eddie 48

Bnlee2
11-01-06, 00:06
New today a San francisco police shot himself to dead in Cambodia jail after he was accused of sex abuse of a 14 yr old girl .

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15491704/



fast eddie 48
the newsreport said that it was a suicide. He fired "TWO" shots in his mouth/head. Interesting... a two shot suicide. maybe CSI/Cambodia should look into this. suspicious to me.

Cebu Local
11-02-06, 00:22
the newsreport said that it was a suicide. He fired "TWO" shots in his mouth/head. Interesting... a two shot suicide. maybe CSI/Cambodia should look into this. suspicious to me.Actually it was 1 shot in the head and the gun detonated again as he fell with the 2nd shot into the wall.

Azn Playa
11-05-06, 13:20
"on sunday, a prosecutor formally charged ramirez with debauchery, a cambodian legal term for sexual offenses against minors, which is punishable by up to 20 years in prison. the american was seen taking the girl into his apartment, but denied he had sexually abused her, the prosecutor said monday.

police also arrested the girl’s mother who allegedly provided the girl for ramirez, the prosecutor said."

wonder how long the mother will remain in jail. sounds like a set-up to me.

the news report mentions another guy getting arrested for a similar crime - perhaps the le need to reach a weekly quota for busting foreigners in order to make it appear that they are working hard to eradicate the war against ****.

BuleDaddy
11-19-06, 00:31
what is the music/club scene like in pp? good tekno clubs? still serving the happy pizza? are they doing randon pee tests like in bkk and jkt?

do the night clubs have short time gals/rooms?

the viets here in la are ranting and raving about the pp nightclub scene.

Matt Navan Man
11-20-06, 01:10
are they doing randon pee tests like in bkk and jkt?


perish the day the khmer's get their act together to even consider it!

Dinghy
11-20-06, 17:27
3 places to get happy - SR, PP and Snooky

(Snooky is on Eakereach between the Sokimex and the lions roundabout, going to the beach, on the left - you can also get delivery at the beach. PP is on 345 Sisowath. Don't make the mistake of "Happy Pizza" (223 or 355) versus "Happy Herb Pizza" (345). I have no idea if it's "REALLY Happy" in those others or not. Extra happy is $1 more.)

The manager in snooky told me that the quality of the local is deteriorating and he imported some seed from India for better flavor

http://www.yellowpages-cambodia.com/maps/phnompenh/

(enter "happy pizza" and get all of them)

Phantomtiger2
11-28-06, 00:31
what is the music/club scene like in pp? good tekno clubs? still serving the happy pizza? are they doing randon pee tests like in bkk and jkt?

do the night clubs have short time gals/rooms?

the viets here in la are ranting and raving about the pp nightclub scene.

went to several clubs in pp. they all play teckno music in all these places. no random test when i visited.
note: most of these places are filled with local khmer men/boys only. i was always the only foreigner there. picking gals here are a challenge if dont know the khmer lingo as almost all dont speak english. the viets may be better off as i believe some gals here do understand viet lingo.
didnt see any st rooms at any of the local khmer clubs. there were many, many young gals at these clubs (many ****) and many with boyfriends, so knowing some khmer will help in sorting out whose available and whose taken. remember, if you make a mistake here and offend someone, you will be outnumbered about 100 to 1.


if english is all you speak (like me) then suggest stick only with the bars that foreigners visit (ex: sharky, shaighai, dv8 etc.)
note: heart of darkness was dead when i visited at 11pm. only 1-2 fl and about 5-6 guys. there were more bouncers than patrons.

pt

Kimbrough
11-28-06, 01:28
Hi Guys,

I have been looking to book a flight to PP during the month of January and the prices I'm getting is around $1400.00 from Los Angeles to Cambodia. I'm just wondering if that is normal price during high season. Any input would be appreciated!

Fast Eddie 48
11-28-06, 07:43
Hi Guys,

I have been looking to book a flight to PP during the month of January and the prices I'm getting is around $1400.00 from Los Angeles to Cambodia. I'm just wondering if that is normal price during high season. Any input would be appreciated!


to kimbrough

Cathay pacific from Lax to hong Kong is$ 850 usd included tax or $ 920.00 to
bangkok , you also can take dragon air from Hong Kong to PP or Airasia from Bangkok very cheap , I got booking already for Jan 1 next year price go up on
end of Jan because of chinese new yr .

fast eddie 48

Azn Playa
11-28-06, 10:27
to kimbrough

Cathay pacific from Lax to hong Kong is$ 850 usd included tax or $ 920.00 to
bangkok , you also can take dragon air from Hong Kong to PP or Airasia from Bangkok very cheap , I got booking already for Jan 1 next year price go up on
end of Jan because of chinese new yr .

fast eddie 48

If you can afford $1400 direct to PNH, then do it.

Transiting in airports or overnight layovers can be a pain in the ass if you are hell bent on getting to your chosen destination. Sure you can take advantage of wherever you are in Asia, but im sure you want to get to PP asap!

If you want to save some money (but it might cost you a day/night) then direct to BKK is the easiest. Morning flights depart BKK for PNH daily, and they can be had for $100US return. The cheapest possibility could be LAX to MFM (Macau), then MFM-BKK and BKK-PNH with Airasia. But im not sure if US flights arrive in Macau at all.

Fast Eddie 48
11-28-06, 22:54
If you can afford $1400 direct to PNH, then do it.

Transiting in airports or overnight layovers can be a pain in the ass if you are hell bent on getting to your chosen destination. Sure you can take advantage of wherever you are in Asia, but im sure you want to get to PP asap!

If you want to save some money (but it might cost you a day/night) then direct to BKK is the easiest. Morning flights depart BKK for PNH daily, and they can be had for $100US return. The cheapest possibility could be LAX to MFM (Macau), then MFM-BKK and BKK-PNH with Airasia. But im not sure if US flights arrive in Macau at all.


to asia player

I post info for kimbrough on different options it's not the matter of afford it or not , there is no direct flight form Lax to PP anyway if you need to change plane either way . I still think it is better to stay in Bangkok or hong kong for a few days first and there are no direct flight from Lax to macau any way so
check out your source of info .

fast eddie 48

Phantomtiger2
12-02-06, 20:37
There are now more scams to think about due to the higher price of gas.
Beware of where you are parked at night.
1)From what I can figure, there must be some common keys that unlock your motobike seat to reach the gas tank.
I had about 1.5liters of gas missing from my bike while I was parked in a common area up in the Victory hills area while bar hopping one nite in Sihanoukville.
2)Always lock your bike no matter how short a time you leave it (worst place for bike theft now seems to be in Snooky)
One guy I was parked next to had his bike stolen --he left it unlock only about 30min. while having one beer.
3)If you plan to rent a motobike, Get to know your bike a little better (mechanically) as I saw several scams by local guys (usually late at nite) that loosen the ignition coil wire on bikes. You will try to start bike but wont start, guy pretends to come over to help you --looks at all the usual stuff--see if gas present etc. Then walks away looking dumbfounded only to return and play with some wires and guess what the bike starts. The guys are often so grateful not to be stuck at nite and able to go back to hotel a little drunk that they tip the helpful bloke $2-3 tips.
4)Sometimes its as simple as turning off the gas flow switch to the motor. They tried this on me one nite but I know a little about bikes as I use to ride a 500cc motocycle at home (although this was over 10yrs ago--it comes back to me) as I made all the preliminary checks for the problems. One guy came over to help as I took out my pocket flashlight--yes, always carry one if you have to ride after dark, found the problem and gave the other guy the "evil eye"--like saying hey asshole I know it was you who turned the gas flow off and just rode away.

They are more various themes to the above, but make sure if you are renting moto that the hotel you stay at will bring the bike inside or guard it while not in use overnite. Remember, you are 100% responsible for its loss. Like I said, seems to be worst in Snooky than anywhere else I've been to in Cambodia so far.
My insight for the day from Cambo.


PT

Azn Playa
12-03-06, 12:50
to asia player

I post info for kimbrough on different options it's not the matter of afford it or not , there is no direct flight form Lax to PP anyway if you need to change plane either way . I still think it is better to stay in Bangkok or hong kong for a few days first and there are no direct flight from Lax to macau any way so
check out your source of info .

fast eddie 48

Ok and I advise that you read my post more carefully before you make any suggestions to me. Looking at the grammatical composition of your post, it appears that English may not be your first language. The tone of your post resembles mild flaming, which may not have been intentional, but I have interpreted it as such.

So, here are some points you might like to consider:

1. You, nor he, stated that a direct flight does not exist. By the nature of his post it was somewhat implied.

2. The $1400 option may be the fastest way to travel from LAX-PNH via another airport (which is not cited). The transit time for the journey he is being quoted may be very short and therefore will arrive him in PP faster than any other option. Therefore if he can afford it, he should take it. For many people $1400 is a minimal expense whereas a day or two could be worth much more to him. He isnt asking for layover options whereby he loses 1-2 nights out of his vacation.

3. As I am not a travel agent and it is just as easy for him to check flight paths on the internet as it would be for me, I made a simple suggestion that Macau COULD be an alternative. I even wrote "But im not sure if US flights arrive in Macau at all" which you seem to have overlooked.

4. Your opinion as to staying in Bangkok or Hong Kong may bear no relevance whatsoever to him, as he has specifically asked about Phnom Penh/Cambodia. If this is the sole objective of his holiday then I am sure he wont want to waste any time in China or Thailand.

5. After reading through all the posts on this board I notice that you have made a couple of claims/suggestions as to what people should or can do with regards to money and SIM cards in Cambodia. With respect to bringing large quantities of small USD denominations it is completely unneccesary. Apart from 20USD for the visa on arrival and $7 to quickly pay a taxi for the trip into town there is no need for anything but large bills. I have only brought $100s with me on several occassions and no THB and there was no instance during my trip where this caused a problem. Almost any hotel will break a $100 bill into any denomination you require. I wont say much about the SIM cards as this has already been replied to. But it is near impossible to find a vendor who will sell a prepaid SIM without passport ID and/or a Cambodian national helping to get it registered. Therefore even though you may be very well informed on other Asian locations, perhaps before you make a claim against someone, you provide evidence to go with it - otherwise the validity of your post could be considered to be questionable.

Have a nice day.

Phantomtiger2
12-03-06, 22:32
. With respect to bringing large quantities of small USD denominations it is completely unneccesary. Apart from 20USD for the visa on arrival and $7 to quickly pay a taxi for the trip into town there is no need for anything but large bills. I have only brought $100s with me on several occassions and no THB and there was no instance during my trip where this caused a problem. Almost any hotel will break a $100 bill into any denomination you require.

Have a nice day.As I am still in Cambodia now, I can add by saying that the only time you will need to carry small US bills (other than for tipping a few singles to the gals= bar maids, FL, WL etc) is if you are travelling well off the beaten path that most tourist dont go. I mostly travel by rental motobike to many unknown out of the way places (I have alot of thoughts on motorentals by foreigners but will delay those suggestions until later when I have time to compose my thoughts at home).

Some of the villages (even 5-10km outside a tourist town like Snooky or Koh Kong) cant really break anything over $5 if you were paying for a soda or water --costing .10-.25cents etc. They are use to dealing only with locals paying almost nothing for items so will need to keep the demoninations small. In these cases, also carry some riels as it seems some places in way off places actually prefer this (guess it saves them the hassle of thinking of the math conversions in their heads for the proper change to give back).
But for most of you guys the above is very true as All places visited by foreigners you can carry any size bills as often banks or money changers are always available to change almost anything you need.

Also, I find that its safer and dont cost that much just to carry alot of Traveler Checks (American Express is best) in places that tourist visit instead of alot of cash. Banks charges 2% commission but I have often found some money changers in the markets will do so for 1%. ($100 TC -$1 for commission =get back $99 cash--not bad) So better piece of mind as not to carry too much cash around.

Just my thoughts for the day in Cambo.

PS: sorry as I notice that I have quite a few PMs from some of you guys. Not ignoring anyone but I dont really have the proper time to reply them all now but will continue to scan them and reply the ones that are truly important that needs immediate attention and will answer rest when I get back home.

PT

Prince Harry
12-22-06, 11:40
I am writing this overlooking the gulf as the sun sinks in the west.Lots of action by the boys in snooky over the last week.
The gingerbread house is closed,the choukcrat guesthouse on the next road is crap.The snake pit and bibas are crap.
Victory hill has OK bars and girls but most girls don't go out.
The freedom hotel dance club upstairs has a few girls but most bars in town are dead.Out at ochateul is sakura thai massage(crap) and pocoloco with pool tables and a disco.It is nearly empty but has a couple of nice girls as does the best party place on the beach-the chiva shack.Great music,heaps of people and last night several lovely young freelancers looking for young flesh.
The best place has to be the chicken farm at the port with nice viets for $5.
My german mate took a girl from pocoloco two nights ago,she was beautiful but a problem.He could have taken a ST room at pocos but chose to go to a flash $20 hotel.He was worried because the girl looked so young and didn't screw her.Halfway through the night she pissed the bed,litres of it flowing across the floor AND she snored-he left a $6 tip for the cleaners and took off while she slept.
Another mate took a girl the same night and she had her period,the bed was soaked in blood.
This is a difficult town to find nice women,one has to work hard and travel long distances-I go back to PP next week.
Aaaah phnom penh,the pearl of the orient.

Dinghy
12-22-06, 19:40
As I am still in Cambodia now, I can add by saying that the only time you will need to carry small US bills (other than for tipping a few singles to the gals= bar maids, FL, WL etc) is if you are travelling well off the beaten path that most tourist dont go. I mostly travel by rental motobike to many unknown out of the way places (I have alot of thoughts on motorentals by foreigners but will delay those suggestions until later when I have time to compose my thoughts at home).

Some of the villages (even 5-10km outside a tourist town like Snooky or Koh Kong) cant really break anything over $5 if you were paying for a soda or water --costing .10-.25cents etc. They are use to dealing only with locals paying almost nothing for items so will need to keep the demoninations small. In these cases, also carry some riels as it seems some places in way off places actually prefer this (guess it saves them the hassle of thinking of the math conversions in their heads for the proper change to give back).
But for most of you guys the above is very true as All places visited by foreigners you can carry any size bills as often banks or money changers are always available to change almost anything you need.

Also, I find that its safer and dont cost that much just to carry alot of Traveler Checks (American Express is best) in places that tourist visit instead of alot of cash. Banks charges 2% commission but I have often found some money changers in the markets will do so for 1%. ($100 TC -$1 for commission =get back $99 cash--not bad) So better piece of mind as not to carry too much cash around.

Just my thoughts for the day in Cambo.

PS: sorry as I notice that I have quite a few PMs from some of you guys. Not ignoring anyone but I dont really have the proper time to reply them all now but will continue to scan them and reply the ones that are truly important that needs immediate attention and will answer rest when I get back home.

PT


I keep telling people to go with a PILE of $1 bills - the more the better. It might be a pain to have a wad of bills (put a $20 on the outside and you have what used to be called a "Detroit bankroll") but they can ALWAYS CHANGE ONES! Last time I had $100 in ONES - spent a lot of them but not all. The ANZ bank in SV has an ATM and dispenses US $ so toting large piles of cash isn't all that necessary

Phantomtiger2
12-22-06, 20:13
I keep telling people to go with a PILE of $1 bills - the more the better. ! Last time I had $100 in ONES -

Hey Dinghy, If you had put a $100bill over that wad of singles then the locals would've thought you were Bill Gates.




PT

Phantomtiger2
12-22-06, 20:15
My german mate took a girl from pocoloco two nights ago,she was beautiful but a problem.He could have taken a ST room at pocos but chose to go to a flash $20 hotel.He was worried because the girl looked so young and didn't screw her.Halfway through the night she pissed the bed,litres of it flowing across the floor AND she snored-he left a $6 tip for the cleaners and took off while she slept.
Another mate took a girl the same night and she had her period,the bed was soaked in blood.
.


Hey Harry, you're pals sure know how to pick them. I never had anything close to what they had. Hope you had better luck than your buddies.

PT

Prince Harry
12-23-06, 07:40
No,phantom I have not had problems like these.
I told the german that I had never heard a story like that before.
I was lucky as I had spotted this sweetie first and he swooped before I did.
He should have taken the short time room at pocos for $5,he used it the next night and reported that it was clean and comfy.....

Phantomtiger2
12-23-06, 20:09
I told the german that I had never heard a story like that before.
I was lucky as I had spotted this sweetie first and he swooped before I did.
He should have taken the short time room at pocos for $5,he used it the next night and reported that it was clean and comfy.....


When you mention the German thought the gal was too young and didnt screw her, perhaps he was right as she seems not even old enough to be toilet trained yet--ha ha
Just curious if this girl was a FL visiting the disco or one of the 10 or so bar hostess that worked there?

I was at Pocoloco while in Snooky but didnt even realize they had ST rooms on site. I'll have to remember that next time I'm there.

PT

Gaudente
12-25-06, 08:32
Dear Friends,
Just a few monthes ago I succeded in early retirement (I am 42) in the place of my dreams, Pattaya. But the dream was short-lived, as Thai Immigration decided to put a limit to the VISA-runs practice:now you can make only 3 of them , thereafter you must leave the country for real, going to an embassy and ask for a tourist VISA.Apart the obvious expenses related to this, I have no warrant such VISA will be issued, so I could be stranded off country.
I am of course patrolling the region for an alternative place to retire full time or half-time with Thailand. I have been to Angeles in Philippines, it is more rough then Pattaya with beggars and viagra peddler more annoying then a fly swarm,but it could be suitable if not for the lack of middle class real estate :you have to pay big money for luxury or stay in thirdworldish buildings without even windows.
So I was wondering if Cambodia could be a valid alternative.
Are taxi drivers and beggars even worse then in Philippines ? Is it possible to buy a condominium unit ? Is it possible to have a decent internet connection in your condo ? Are banks working ? Can a foreigner open a bank account ? ATMs give out $ or riel ? Is riel a real currency or is it just used for amounts lower then 1 $ ? Are there decent medical facilities ?
Thank you in advance for whatever help you can give me.

Dragon1423
12-25-06, 09:15
Gaudente,

IMHO it is best to ask the experts. Meaning those that, have the experience, and are doing it now and have been for sometime. Check out www.canbypublications.com if you have not already. Email or better yet visit Barry at DV8 bar in Phnom Penh (has bar business called "OneZeroFour" for sale, live upstairs may be cheaper than rent. Can advise on rental and leasing, also.) OR ask Peter at Hope and Anchor Guesthouse about living in Phnom Pehn. If these two can not give you some insight, I have no clue who could, maybe some of the many other westerners already living over there. Personally, even though I only travel there once a year, I think it is one of the best places in SE Asia for long term living. Congratulations on your early retirement. Best of luck to you!

D1423

Dinghy
12-25-06, 13:59
so i was wondering if cambodia could be a valid alternative.
are taxi drivers and beggars even worse then in philippines ? is it possible to buy a condominium unit ? is it possible to have a decent internet connection in your condo ? are banks working ? can a foreigner open a bank account ? atms give out $ or riel ? is riel a real currency or is it just used for amounts lower then 1 $ ? are there decent medical facilities ?
thank you in advance for whatever help you can give me.

the moto drivers can be a pain outside the hotels. they get to know whether you need them pretty rapidly. seems like no cambo walks anywhere over 50m, though.

i didn't try to find a condo - i suppose they are available. internet must be available because the hotels have hi-speed in p-p.

what atms there are (few and far between) give out $$. the riel is real (what a pun) and is used in duality with $$ - you can get both and indeed will have some of both, but at 4000:1 roughly with 5000 notes worth roughly $1.25, you will have a bankroll quickly. they have no coins so it's all paper. spend it and put it back into circulation.

decent medical facilities?? - reports are that if you get sick/hurt (hurt more than sick) in cambodia, you better have access to thailand because capacity is "limited" (and that's being kind.)

the other stuff - i don't know

Jeff46
12-25-06, 14:39
Dear Friends,

Just a few monthes ago I succeded in early retirement (I am 42) in the place of my dreams, Pattaya. But the dream was short-lived, as Thai Immigration decided to put a limit to the VISA-runs practice:now you can make only 3 of them , thereafter you must leave the country for real, going to an embassy and ask for a tourist VISA.Apart the obvious expenses related to this, I have no warrant such VISA will be issued, so I could be stranded off country.

I am of course patrolling the region for an alternative place to retire full time or half-time with Thailand. I have been to Angeles in Philippines, it is more rough then Pattaya with beggars and viagra peddler more annoying then a fly swarm,but it could be suitable if not for the lack of middle class real estate :you have to pay big money for luxury or stay in thirdworldish buildings without even windows.
So I was wondering if Cambodia could be a valid alternative.

Are taxi drivers and beggars even worse then in Philippines ? Is it possible to buy a condominium unit ? Is it possible to have a decent internet connection in your condo ? Are banks working ? Can a foreigner open a bank account ? ATMs give out $ or riel ? Is riel a real currency or is it just used for amounts lower then 1 $ ? Are there decent medical facilities ?

Thank you in advance for whatever help you can give me.From 1997 to 2000 I went in Cambodia. Cambodia is not a alternative for definitly retirement. I mean you leave your home country for ever?

Don t do this. Cambodia can change as Thailand has change the visa rules. You have no garantees. And phnom penh is definitly not the place to retired. The beach§§§§ one day they will ripp you off!

So the best is still Thailand, Pattaya. Keep a home in your home country or travel around Thailand cambodia philipine and keep a room in Thailand. Move around to get in the rule with the new visa regulation. Tourist visa no problem to get. And for sure you need a monthly pension of us 3500 to survive in Thailand. Thats what I can tell you today. Take care of your retirement very carefull. I know many guys who was forced to go home lack of money or ripped of from the girls.

Shamas
12-25-06, 18:32
Dear Friends,
Just a few monthes ago I succeded in early retirement (I am 42) in the place of my dreams, Pattaya. But the dream was short-lived, as Thai Immigration decided to put a limit to the VISA-runs practice:now you can make only 3 of them , thereafter you must leave the country for real, going to an embassy and ask for a tourist VISA.Apart the obvious expenses related to this, I have no warrant such VISA will be issued, so I could be stranded off country.
I am of course patrolling the region for an alternative place to retire full time or half-time with Thailand. I have been to Angeles in Philippines, it is more rough then Pattaya with beggars and viagra peddler more annoying then a fly swarm,but it could be suitable if not for the lack of middle class real estate :you have to pay big money for luxury or stay in thirdworldish buildings without even windows.
So I was wondering if Cambodia could be a valid alternative.
Are taxi drivers and beggars even worse then in Philippines ? Is it possible to buy a condominium unit ? Is it possible to have a decent internet connection in your condo ? Are banks working ? Can a foreigner open a bank account ? ATMs give out $ or riel ? Is riel a real currency or is it just used for amounts lower then 1 $ ? Are there decent medical facilities ?
Thank you in advance for whatever help you can give me.

Cambodia is for the healty NOT the old or sick. As Dingy says, for retirment you best have access to Thai medical care or be darn healthy. Just ask Frank at the next Elvis concert.

Shamas O'Dognasty

Dinghy
12-25-06, 20:33
$3500 US PER MONTH to retire in Pattaya?

Sheesh - I hardly get much more than that in the US. I guess if you want to live high on the hog it might take that much - but when I go on holiday I seem to get by with about 1/3 of that (I do tend to "go native", though - YMMV)

In many respects (not all) Cambodia is as expensive as Thailand - the main advantage of Cambo being that the $US is the defacto currency and none of this "devaluation BS" - prices may increase but a $ remains a $ - no 40 yesterday, 39 today and 38 tomorrow (dreaming of those rates, of course).

Oh, and Shamus - it's Ding-H-y. (I drives me boat, she drives me dinghy)

"Dingy" means crazy (a play on words, of course)

Jeff46
12-25-06, 22:42
$3500 US PER MONTH to retire in Pattaya?

Sheesh - I hardly get much more than that in the US. I guess if you want to live high on the hog it might take that much - but when I go on holiday I seem to get by with about 1/3 of that (I do tend to "go native", though - YMMV)

In many respects (not all) Cambodia is as expensive as Thailand - the main advantage of Cambo being that the $US is the defacto currency and none of this "devaluation BS" - prices may increase but a $ remains a $ - no 40 yesterday, 39 today and 38 tomorrow (dreaming of those rates, of course).
IOh, and Shamus - it's Ding-H-y. (I drives me boat, she drives me dinghy)

"Dingy" means crazy (a play on words, of course)Sorry typing mistake. It's 2500

Its new. FOR A TOURIST VISA thai consulat will ask about your money pension bank account if you want to stay more then 3 Month.

Official they ask baht 80. 000 as pension for a retirment visa and a deposit of Baht 800. 000 in a thai bank.

US 2500 this is the minimun they expect from us in order to stay in Thailand. I COUNT FOR YOU LIKE THIS.

Baht 60. 000 fr living. Rental. Food. Girls entertainment. We can not leave as a thai. Then you need baht 30000 BAHT in case of travel need o medical or any unforseen things.

The best I ever done is Baht 30. 000 in a month in Bangkok with room rental but its hard to stay on that amount. Need definitly 60000

You can check forum Thailand fighting club and living Thailand for more info.

Cheers

Prince Harry
12-26-06, 02:42
Cambodia as a retirement destination-yes and no...
One is allowed to come and live here freely,I have the business visa for one month which is renewable indefinitely-that's a huge improvement over thailand.
One is not allowed to buy land,only a 66year lease which seems to be secure.Today I visit the real estate shark in snooky to investigate more.
Through my son I can buy land in thailand but if the bastards won't let you live there there really isn't much point.
Cambodia is cheaper than thailand if one eats and lives more like a local.
Rents are absurdly cheap in cambodia as are alcohol and women-this is a very good start.
Health care is almost non existent,one should not have ongoing health problems in old age.
I am currently on a recce for several months to investigate opportunities here for permanent residence.
It is essential to speak khmer for daily living and some vietnamese for searching out the most attentive ladies,I am working on this.
I much prefer the cambodian and vietnamese people to the greedy,avaricious,duplicitious thai.The cambodians have a gentle nature and a very good sense of humour,similar to ours.
The next few months will intereresting for me and I will let you know if living in cambodia is possible or just a pipe dream.
PS-for me the freedom to smoke otherwise illicit subsatances at will makes cambodia the coolest country in the world.
The americans can stick their absurd war on drugs fair up their jaxie.

Montecristo
12-26-06, 04:02
. And for sure you need a monthly pension of us 3500 to survive in Thailand. Thats what I can tell you today. Take care of your retirement very carefull. I know many guys who was forced to go home lack of money or ripped of from the girls.[/QUOTE]


A very good hotel costs 400 $ a month in Pattaya, where are you expecting to blown up the rest of the 3100 ?

Dinghy
12-26-06, 05:40
. And for sure you need a monthly pension of us 3500 to survive in Thailand. Thats what I can tell you today. Take care of your retirement very carefull. I know many guys who was forced to go home lack of money or ripped of from the girls.


A very good hotel costs 400 $ a month in Pattaya, where are you expecting to blown up the rest of the 3100 ?[/QUOTE]


POOSEE (er... pooying...muan gun - besides, he has to eat someting...)

Phantomtiger2
12-26-06, 22:33
.
where are you expecting to blown up the rest of the 3100 ?

Lets see, newest up-date was $2500/month to spend(and not $3500). Note: I'm using pattaya prices, but most of these prices could be adjusted down a bit for Cambo.
Even if you had to spend money on puying (gals for all those not in the know), $2500 is still more than doable.
Lets say you spend 1000b/nite LT x 30 days= 30,000b (or about $800/month)
---assuming FL as its a little more for barfines.
If you indulge and took 2 gals out every nite =60,000b (or about $1600/month)

Spend another $10/nite on beers = $300/month (Happy hours in Patts will get you about 5 beers and Cambo=10 beers)

Rent, food, local transportation, clothes, laundry etc. (only food in Cambo will be much more expensive).

Yes, should still have change left over.
Note: If you took only 1 gal/nite at the proper rate and not overpay, then your "emergency savings" will build up rather quickly--my 2 cents.



PT

Fastpiston
12-27-06, 10:07
Cambodia as a retirement destination-yes and no...
One is allowed to come and live here freely,I have the business visa for one month which is renewable indefinitely-that's a huge improvement over thailand.
One is not allowed to buy land,only a 66year lease which seems to be secure.Today I visit the real estate shark in snooky to investigate more.
Through my son I can buy land in thailand but if the bastards won't let you live there there really isn't much point.
Cambodia is cheaper than thailand if one eats and lives more like a local.
Rents are absurdly cheap in cambodia as are alcohol and women-this is a very good start.
Health care is almost non existent,one should not have ongoing health problems in old age.
I am currently on a recce for several months to investigate opportunities here for permanent residence.
It is essential to speak khmer for daily living and some vietnamese for searching out the most attentive ladies,I am working on this.
I much prefer the cambodian and vietnamese people to the greedy,avaricious,duplicitious thai.The cambodians have a gentle nature and a very good sense of humour,similar to ours.
The next few months will intereresting for me and I will let you know if living in cambodia is possible or just a pipe dream.
PS-for me the freedom to smoke otherwise illicit subsatances at will makes cambodia the coolest country in the world.
The americans can stick their absurd war on drugs fair up their jaxie.

You made mention about a one-month 'renewable' business visa. Would appreciate knowing:
1) Are there any special requirements for a 'business' visa & where do you get it?
2) How much does it cost?
3) Where can you renew the visa and for how much?
Apreciate your input! Many thanks.

Barbarossa
12-29-06, 06:59
Anyone who has been to Cambodia knows how much Angkor means to the Cambodian people. A nice way to pay back the Cambodian people if you enjoyed the country like I did is to get on line and vote for Angkor as a 7 wonder.

http://www.new7wonders.com/index.php

Phantomtiger2
12-29-06, 20:13
Anyone who has been to Cambodia knows how much Angkor means to the Cambodian people. A nice way to pay back the Cambodian people if you enjoyed the country like I did is to get on line and vote for Angkor as a 7 wonder.

http://www.new7wonders.com/index.php

Its a nice gesture but only in title.
Voting will not make too much a difference as its been a World/UN Heritage site for many years and have helped launch the booming tourism business in SR/Angkor. Just have to look at all the new giant 4-5 star hotels they built in the last 10 years in SR. Even without the wonders of the world title, most of the times the popular sites are already overcrowded during the day with bus loads of tourists so more exposure on Angkor is not needed. On the otherhand, crowd control is.


PT

Shamas
12-29-06, 23:14
Anyone who has been to Cambodia knows how much Angkor means to the Cambodian people. A nice way to pay back the Cambodian people if you enjoyed the country like I did is to get on line and vote for Angkor as a 7 wonder.

http://www.new7wonders.com/index.php


I agree, vote for Angkor. It beats all the others except the pyramids.

Gaudente
01-04-07, 05:38
$3500 US PER MONTH to retire in Pattaya?

Sheesh - I hardly get much more than that in the US. I guess if you want to live high on the hog it might take that much - but when I go on holiday I seem to get by with about 1/3 of that (I do tend to "go native", though - YMMV)

In many respects (not all) Cambodia is as expensive as Thailand - the main advantage of Cambo being that the $US is the defacto currency and none of this "devaluation BS" - prices may increase but a $ remains a $ - no 40 yesterday, 39 today and 38 tomorrow (dreaming of those rates, of course).

Oh, and Shamus - it's Ding-H-y. (I drives me boat, she drives me dinghy)

"Dingy" means crazy (a play on words, of course)

I live on an approximate 1,000BHT /day budget in Pattaya.
Short time with a girl from the beach: 500baht
food and other daily stuff shopping in Carrefour :200 baht
own a 32sqm condo so pay no rent. Monthly expenses: 300 baht maintenance, 300 baht water, 1000baht electricity.
transportation:use baht bus , 10 baht each ride, so let's say 40 baht/day on average.
So you see you can have your cock smoked daily and sit lazily all day with just one brown note/day (the 1000 baht note is brown)

Shamas
01-06-07, 19:19
$3500 US PER MONTH to retire in Pattaya?

Oh, and Shamus - it's Ding-H-y. (I drives me boat, she drives me dinghy)

"Dingy" means crazy (a play on words, of course)

:-) I've always thought U misspelled it :-) Sorry for the error, I now under stand you think your a little boat not crazy as I thought. :-)

Shamas O'Dognasty

Shamas
01-06-07, 19:34
Sure you could retire on 3.5K$ a month in P"town IF you think you would enjoy it for the long term.

A friend of mine retired to San Jose Costa Rica to be a full time gentleman of pleasure. After a few months he realized he was totally boarded.

WHAT, so many said.

I once worked as a bartender in a very big and wild strip club. It was the most boaring job I've ever had.

Now to my point. We all go to our sin dins for short flashed of wild times, wanton sex and fulfillment of fantasy's.

Once you stay for a few months it is no longer the same as it was when you first arrived, it's now the same old stuff, day in and day out.

Don't believe me, try it for yourself

Shamas O'Dognasty

MisterMax808
01-07-07, 04:32
Shamas,

You are right on. I tried it. And was bored after just 2 weeks in Pattaya! . Even too much of a good thing can become old hat. It shows that many of us do not really know ourselves as we think. Or fantasy is but a fleeting thing our mind makes up. Reality is much more sobering.

Phantomtiger2
01-07-07, 18:22
Shamas,

You are right on. I tried it. And was bored after just 2 weeks in Pattaya! . Even too much of a good thing can become old hat. It shows that many of us do not really know ourselves as we think. Or fantasy is but a fleeting thing our mind makes up. Reality is much more sobering.


What, Only 2 weeks and already bored?
When I'm in Patts, I always stay 2 weeks minimum and its still not enough for me. Often have to pry me away onto the plane home. Agree that perhaps several months may be a bit too much (have to take the words of many as I haven't tried it yet as my job dont allow that amount of time off )

PT

Prince Harry
01-09-07, 03:41
Shamas,

You are right on. I tried it. And was bored after just 2 weeks in Pattaya! . Even too much of a good thing can become old hat. It shows that many of us do not really know ourselves as we think. Or fantasy is but a fleeting thing our mind makes up. Reality is much more sobering.

Pattaya was the pits in 1979 and is still the same now,for me.
Most of the girls are ugly and the place is ugly with far too many katoey,far too much traffic and far too many drunken soccer hooligan type dickheads.
Why are people obsessed with that stupid round ball game?

That Asshole
01-09-07, 07:14
Kambuja Report 2007 >second half<

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Kampot, Kep, K.Cham, Krache, + Stories
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KAMPOT

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General:
Sleepy rural town near Sihanoukville. No beach just a small river. Reasonably friendly locals, some sightseeing and good quality meat. Interested?

Getting there:
1 and half hours, $3 by share taxi from Sihanouk. Toyota sedans leave Sihanouk's main market (Psar Leu) early in the morning, up to 10 am, when full. 6 people plus the driver in the car. If you are big you might want to buy two seats (or three?). Also, big public buses from Phnom Penh twice daily (6hrs). Reasonable road all the way.

Local transport:
Many moto drivers who speak good English. Some hassle from motos but not too bad. Also push and motorbikes can be rented at the guesthouses.

Accomodation:
Pleasantly plentiful, good quality and cheap. Fan rooms from $3 and aircon from $8 in the many guesthouses and hotels. Some at the riverfront but mostly in centre of town.

Food:
5 or 6 farang restaurants near the river. Also one Khmer restaurant with English menu near the main bus stop (share taxi station). They also sell the tickets. Also a nice "eating street" opens at night on the street opp. bridge (see: internet). Prices very cheap. But they "no speak Inglish" and sanitation is dubious the least. However if you eat **** the plates wouldn't be more dirty than that. (Washed in the same water).

Banking/Internet: Money changers at the market and many internet shops on the road leading to the bridge.

Meat:
Lots of friendly brothels. As usual, the Viets have clean rooms with good lighting and the Khmers are dirt but meat quality is quite good everywhere and foreigners are accepted. $5/pop (one hour or until you cum). I choose not to disclose the exact locations here for the following reasons:

R1./ There is a reasonable amount of evil dirt around town (ti. missionary freaks, spies, etc) who want to harm them.
R2./ They are all close to town or in town but you will need a local man to go with you and he will know anyway. But surely there are plenty.

Other thingies to do while in town:
There are caves, reasonable swimming in a creek, beauty countryside, wats, etc. (If you go to the cave, take a torch!) The Bokor Hill organised tour has a very mixed unwholesome clientele of missionaries, backpackers, do-gooders, and the like so you might not enjoy it very much. Just be prepared.
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KEP

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General:
If you like quiet and exotic, Kep is for you. Old, mostly deserted resort siti, a "ghost-town". Has a beach but too dirty for swimming. Lots of good seafood. Apart from a few low key resorts, also has a very primitive village and a dirty, small market.

Getting there:
By moto from Kampot, 30 mins, $3, 20km. Or by the daily P.Pen bus to Kampot ($4)which stops in town. Road is good. Otherwise there are lots of motos to take you around. A few speak Inglish. Boats can be hired to some islands for $12 or so.

Accomodation: Plentiful on weekdays but weekends can be busy. $5 and up to $30. Some places have electricity only in the evening.

Bank/internet: Some hotels change moni and some have internet too. But best to bring USD.

Food:
Most accom. have own restaurants with fresh seafood daily. But to watch the sunset the beachside restaurants are also good.

Meat:
Some enterprising local men bring up meat from Kampot, on the weekends only. Your moto driver will show you where.
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KOMPONG CHAM

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General: Big town by Kambo standards, little by your standards. Has a nice riverside, good accomodation and some meat.

Transport: Many buses daily from P.Pen's Psar Tmei market (Sorya Transport Co.), $3/4hrs. Very good road all the way. Many motos in town but few speak English, so hassles are few. Hard to find any moto at night.

Accomodation: Plenty, near the main market and bus stop, fan $3++, air$10++.

Food: No farang restaurants but the large hotels have English menu (often with no prices!). Also a cluster of cheap local food places near the bus stops.

Meat: The moto drivers are very limited in language skills but understand "lady". Organize your trip early as they disappear as the sun sets. The strong presence of NGO type of dirt plus "anti-sex-tourist" posters are a positive eyesore. Hopefully the locals will wake up soon and get rid of them.
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KRACHE (KRATIE)

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General:
Possibly the most attractive Khmer town. Clean, organized and friendly. Lots of backpackers come to see doll's-fins.

Transport:
Another 4 hrs/$4 from Kompong Cham. Road is good. Plenty of motos but generally few hasles. Also has direct bus connections once a day to Battambang, Siem Reap. You don't need to backtrack to P.Pen. Locally there are lots of motos although they are mostly non-hassle types.

There are some women moto drivers too in this town. Please guys don't encourage this and please only use the men's services. Traditionally in Cambodia the women's place is in the kitchen, in the washing room or in the brothels. We don't need to be heroes here.

Food:
Three or four backpacker restaurants have farang food. Otherwise the evening market at the river has some English menus.

Bank/internet:
As usual money changers at market or backpacker cafes. Baht gets good rates. The cafes also have internet.

Meat:
As you walk the streets around the market at night some older women offer you "massage". However there are lots of better places in the dark back-streets. Motos can be found all day and even late at night at the market or at the riverside nightmarket (spik litele Inglish).

Other things to do:
There is a beautiful "Magic Island" in the river, just across from town. Step back 100 years. No electricity, no noise, no roads just a circle dirt-track, lots of buffaloes and friendly locals. Very interesting. No accomodation though.

Makes you wonder: Why would anyone want to "help" these people? They are better off than we are. You will see they are all healthy, happy beings. No doctors on the island (lucky for all !). Those fucking "do-gooders" are destroying Cambodia right now, while making a good pocket from their "humanitarian" schemes. By the way, this town is also plastered with "kill-all-sextourists" posters. Makes you feel good. When is this stupidity going to end?

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PURSAT, BATTAMBANG, PAILIN > please see previous report, as all details are basically still the same.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=444231&postcount=105
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=444230&postcount=104

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Some travel experiences

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Somewhere interesting.......

Arrived in the afternoon in this nice town, hired a moto to look
around. Afterwards made an appointment with him to come back at 7pm.
For a meal I had a look at a "foreigner" restaurant but unfortunately it
was full of unwholesome characters such as:"poverty-eliminators, aids-
activists, woman-savers" and other similar kind of hypocrits, and also
listing $4 meals on the menu. Thought better and went to a nearby Khmer
restaurant and had a meal for 75c (and free tea!). Good service too!

The moto came to pick-up on time. We fixed his fee first of all. Basically all
brothels were near town and the market. We looked at two Kambo houses
and a Viet one. At that place we saw a very beauty girl but she was
already booked out so we promised to come back ($5pops).We looked some
more Viets and then went for a ride out of town, down a long, dark
road. I was about to say to turn back as it was a bit scary, just too
dark and isolated. But just then we already arrived at an unremarkable,
unlit, no-name house.

The only light was from a bonfire in the middle
of the yard, with some human shadows around it. A person lying on a raised
wooden platform seemed to be the boss. In the back behind were another
dozen or so siluettes in the dark. The boss motioned to them and they came
closer. All young Kambo girls. They smiled and said "hello". The price
was the standard $5 ($2.50 for locals). I picked one (they all looked
okay and young BTW). We walked over to a wooden box-room in the back but it was clean inside, with a dim 5W red lightbulb near the door. The girl went to wash and returned soon. She acted very playful, had small tits, no kids yet, 20yo, very pretty.

She started shy first but became very hot soon
enough. We listened to the fuck-noises and talk coming from another box
next door (dead quiet othetwise, no music as in some other places). She
was very good indeed, so got $1 tip. She gave a big smile and looked as
if hitting the weekly lottery jackpot (just please don't spoil them
guys, don't spoil them). I paid the boss $5 afterwards. Once outside
again, my driver mentioned that this was a good day to come as
they just received fresh new stock from Phnom Penh. By that time other customers arrived, waiting and chatting with the girls.

We returned to the hotel. It was an interesting night out, in my opinion beats the loud, drunken crowd in my corner-pub back at home. Also, note the very low status of women in this story. It's remarkable. Totally used only as
fucking-objects. No nice clothes, no wining-dining, no votes. Just
pleasing men. Totally awesome. A nice, cheerful crowd of us assembled
there (mostly Khmers). We happily decided to "say no to violence against men". We share our meat. This feeling was great, even greater than the root.

Please join us soon and make a better world for all, free from
fighting, wars and violence against men.
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Story#2: ("....he focked for $1.......donation by UniFukk....")

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The next night we went back with the young moto driver to the Viet
house where we saw that beauty girl. My man remarked that he liked that
girl very much too. The Cambodian man boss asked us: "Which door?" We
pointed to the room we saw her last time. She was busy again, of
course. However, very soon a fat Japanese man came out with a big wide
grin on the face. What was he so happy about?

I asked the young moto-boy: "How much do locals pay?" He said: $2.50. I put $1.50 in his hands "Do you have another buck for a fuck?" Surely he had. After half an hour he came out with a very wide smiling face. (I did not worry too much because I reckoned the Jap and Kambo wouldn't stretch out the hole excessively.) Then happy to be third in the line, I went in. Immediately
noticed that this was not the same girl. The other one was younger and
prettier. But this one was pretty enough, not more than 25 and taller.
Also she was totally naked, just coming from the shower. Was I going to
argue about small details here?

I did not shower but she just wiped my kokky with a wet towel and then
started sucking immediately. After then she got on top. The room looked very clean and well lit, the girl very white and fresh and the technique was good. Made for an excellent session. She got really hot and passionate. I spermed on her lovely pink nipples. We showered and she received $1 tip.

Outside the moto boy was waiting. Fat Jap man already gone. (I wanted
to buy him a beer). We discussed that the girl wasn't the same, but no
probs nevertheless.

I was happy again. No fighting was involved and we, the three of us
rooted the same hole in great agreement. The peak of international
cooperation! Jap, Kanbo and ugly farang man roots Viet woman! Wow!
That's something to brag about.

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New Charity on the Block.......

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I am also going to start my own charity organisation soon. It will be
called "International FukFund". We organize charity collections to
subsidize fucking for underprivileged Kambodian men (and other
nationals too), who cannot afford it otherwise. Or I might just call it
"Unifukk"? From every $10 donated I will keep $8.50 for "administration
costs" and will start my own NGO! Anybody want to donate? We accept
credit cards, bank check and paypal.

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SIHANUK VILLE (also called Kompong Som)

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General:
The other main tourist resort of Cambodia, apart from Siem Reap. It has a number of beautiful biches, long deserted roads and still relatively few tourists, even in high season. However it is fast changing as new hotels are being pulled up at an alarming rate. Apart from Phnom Penh, Sihanoukville also home to the country's most wholesome meat-market. There is everything you would ever want, Khmers and Viets, cheap and expensive, dirty brothels and sparkling clean ones.

The town is also a major backpacker center so if you are into wanking (as I am) you can usually find lots of near-naked european meat on Ocheutal beach. As you walk past you can casually flick your wank on their sunbaked face or tits. Free fuck for you.

Getting there:
By public bus from Phnom Penh (4hrs) or by boat from Koh Kong (4 hours) are the most popular methods. Several companies run buses and there are more than 10 services a day. The one daily boat from Koh Kong leaves at 8am and From Sihanouk at 12 noon.

Getting around town:
The bad news is that if you are on foot you will be constantly hassled by moto drivers, guaranteed. One way around this is to hire either a motorbike or a pushbike, for a few dollars a day. However there are some really nice walks to be had between the beaches and the scenery is quite attractive, especially around 7Chann Beach and Victory Hill. Other than these, there is no local public transport.

Accomodation, food, beer:
Usually plenty of rooms available year around. Fan room from $4 and aircon from $10, on either of the beaches or the town centre. If you are based on Victory Hill you will be closest to the brothel town, or if you stay in the siti you can walk to the brothel-street of Blue Mountain area. Expat restaurants provide the basic standard fare for $2-4/dish. Khmer restaurants are a lot cheaper however they are known to turn away foreigners who do not speak the lingo (it is simply too much trouble for them).

The Angkor Brewery is in town and in the afternoons many bars offer specials of 50c per glass of draft beer. It's quite delicious, however rarely cold enough.

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Finding fucking meat is not difficult the least. In fact possibly one of the easiest and most pleasant in whole Asia (if not the world). There are a large number of brothels near the port. ST on-site 200B/$5, one hour or until you cum. Room conditions are basic but can also take-away (pay $3 more). (However please note that it is dangerous to take meat in to your room in any ****-ry. And also it is not good for you to get too involved with meat beyond fucking them.)

Some say that pooossibly there were more beautiful girls years ago but for our purposes there are still enough.

Please be nice and only use them for ST, so we can all have a go. Definitely no 3-4 day hires! Thank you very much. There is also the fucking-street called Omui Road with about same prices and with another good collection. Apart from these there are several more upmarket fuck-massage houses, $10-15/pop a bit out of town, located on side-streets of Omui. And as we said earlier, the bacpackers are nearly naked (and you can see their cunts through the bikinis if you watch closely enough).

Explanation to the Sihanoukville map:

B = bars (for drinking +hire meat)
D = disco
F = brothels of the standard sort
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Lovely stories:

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My two favorite sweethearts (well, the others are nicer, I promise):

On the passenger boat we had a really charming encounter with two 19 year young, bleached blonde lovelies from "farangland somewhere". They got on the boat somehow without a ticket. When the conductor questioned them, they answered that they didn't have the moni. After 3 or 4 angry looking Khmer guys gathered around, one of them lovelies coughed up the fare (miraculously!) but the other one was still short of $3 or so.

I proceeded to tell the Khmer guys that this is the white meat's common form back at home and if they loosen a few shirt buttons at the top, usually they can get away with anything. Also I was going to suggest to just simply throw them in the water like rubbish. However the Khmer conductors were far too nice to do this and one of them simply bore the missing sum (from his supposedly high salary).

Not end of story here though. A couple of weeks later a very angry moto driver explained to me how he met two bleached foreigner lovelies on a long distance bus somewhere in the country who refused to pay their fare. Hmmm, must be just coincidence, I suppose....
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Night out in Kompong Som:

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Tried to be early on the Blue Mountain to beat the rush, so turned up at 5 pm. Not all of the lovelies out yet but still enough to choose from. Picked a natural young viet girl. Not great beauty, a bit chubby at the belly but young, fresh and childless. She turned out to be very entertaining and willing to please, a good session for $5. Dressed up and walked 5m next door.

There I picked a very pretty slim viet beauty who looked totally awesome apart from the rotten-out teeth. I was a bit apprehensive of putting my cock in that mouth but really had worse before and she was quite good at BJ. Also nice and affectionate. Spending $100 on those teeth, she could be a sex-bomb, but no chance she will ever have that much money, luckily. So, she will stay humble and subservient. So good for us all and for the world. This one costed 250 B incl 50B tip. She nearly danced in joy when receiving it ($1.30).

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Hi-Class Massage

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Next stop was the ex-Rose Massage far out on Omui Road. This is a very efficiently run and clean establishment, all very cute Viet chicks. They are way above the usual brothel stock, all like cute pussicats really, the kind of well dressed, well made-up exotic chickens you are likely to meet in your local Chinatown. They live a life of luxury here, in plush rooms and nice, clean conditions. Attitudes are also quite friendly and unhurried. I sat down in the common room. First one beauty sat down in my lap. Then another and slowly gathered a group of 6. Hard choice because all awesomely pretty (with nice teeth!). Surely, this is the top range.

So, I just picked one, anyone. Can always come back to do the others later. Cost: $15 for the hour plus $2 for the moto. The room where we fucked was where the girl slept with all her plush toys around. It was spotlessly clean, tiled, painted and airconditioned. Better than my room. I got a clean, crispy towel and we had our own bathroom. I am sure you can imagine what to do with a cute purrrring pussycat like this one. We did just that. She was 19, totally white, silky soft, sweet smelling with those exotic almond eyes.

I was sure she was totally in love with me (well, they all fall in love with me. And with you too.) So, this fuck was for free. But because we were in so much love she casually asked me to help her out with $15 or so, which I of course obliged to do. And I was in love with the moto driver too, so I obliged to help him out with $2, since he was so nice to transport me for free. After this, I asked to be taken to Street02 (this is another place you can fuck for free, as long as you "help them out"). Not so clean as the previous and the meat all Khmer, but one of them had really huge tits so had to be that one.

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Secret Sex-Video

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She was young, just 20 and childless, with good teeth, however somewhat overweight. Yet still perfomed quite well. The dog! Why I say that? Before got down to business I noticed she mucking around with her cellphone. After we finished, she played back the whole action, as it was recorded in memory. It's just disguisting what's in some women's mind. They are totally pornographically obsessed! What is she going to do with it? Send it to her papa? This one costed $12/hr + moto.
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A short note:
Comparing the places with "rotten-teeth-girls" it can be sad that they are rather low class and unclean and good-teeth-girls were kept in more upmarket luxurious establishments. It was not always like this and this segregation just seems to occur recently. A few years previously there were lots of perfectly beautiful girls in ordinary brothels for as low as $3-5/pop. Nevertheless it is still a real eye-opener of how cheap meat really can be and how artificially exaggerated their value is in western ****-ries.

Makes you wonder: which one is the "real" value?

Especially when you see the naked backpacker meat on the beach. Why are they more expensive? It must be a mistake of some sort. Yet, occasionally there is still very good quality meat (with excellent teeth) can be found for very cheap prices, as follows:
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Happy story of 2 fucks for 750 B ($19) total (...with beautiful meat.....):

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Had a good day out on the beaches, walking, swimming and enjoying nature. Downing some cheap draft beer afterwards. There are lockers for $1 on Occheutal beach so you can stuff your things in while in the water. Only some fat backpacker pigs were baking their smelly holes that day, so not too exciting in that way. Found a moto driver with good English skills and agreed on the price: $1 return to Chicken Village and 50c for waiting time, in case I might find something doable.

Soon came across a cute little viet animal with beautiful tits, young white meat but unfortunately "Austin Powers type" of teeth. Paid $5 and I was happy because got good, enthusiastic service. On the way back from the place noticed a happy-house with a papasan outside. (It is rare because usually women are managers). I like buying meat from other men because it makes us men cooperate so we stopped to see what he had on offer. Quite surprisingly there were some very attractive Khmer girls inside.

I chose the tallest, most graceful one. She was a real princess, and yes with perfect white teeth, for $5/pop on-site. However my kokky was still spent from the work just a few minutes prior, definitely not strong enough to give her a good pounding. But she was super charming and friendly (with men being bosses, you get better service!). The girl was 23 and as light brown as Khmers can possibly get, very tall, delicate and well formed body and small tits. I ate her **** out with great licks.

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100% Natural Sex-Injection

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Suddenly like a natural form of "Viagara-medicine" this made my tool stand as hard as ever (does licking ol'mamas saggy ass ever make you hard?). While doing this, she requested the light to be turned off because "the other girls are watching". I thought: " Really?". So, it was an awesomely good session. After we dressed up and walked outside, another girl casually came over and said :"I saw what you were doing....." Me thinking: Wow, what the fuck they entertain themselves with.....

Conclusion: Just when I was about to whinge about Khmer women not giving good service I came across this one. A total winner. However still true that 90% of the time the Viets will give a better "meating-experience" by a mile.

On the other matter I was glad that despite of my age and looks I still had what it takes to pick up totally gorgeous young women: $5.
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Viet Beauty Eats Banana

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".....of course they like bananas..."-said the old woman.


Casually walking down on "ST street" on the way to Blue Mountain, dressed in my best shirt ready to pick up women with my charm alone (and my new hair-transplant of course) I noticed this group of pretty young viet girls eating banana. They smiled and I wile returning the smile I casually asked : "Do you like banana?" (it is one of my most succesful pick-up lines). Because they speak no English of course, their boss an old woman answered:

"Of course they like banana, they like it very much!" I had never visited that house before so I inquired about the price. Just the standard $5/hr. The room was clean and airy (Viets are much more clean than Khmers), and with good lighting. The girl was very relaxed and casual, very smiley with a perfect set of teeth. Bathroom was outside so we rather chose not to bother. We are clean people. It was such a fun session with a pretty girl, great for starting the night. Paid, dressed up and left.

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Cute Little Pig-Tits

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Walked on to a large merry-house. This time there were lots of cute little animals with good teeth. I was given the choice of about 8. I picked one that didn't smile or even looked. It's much more fun and they have to serve anyway. (After all we are the men, they have to serve us.) We went in to the same room as with the rotten-teeth girl before. Needless to say she gave a great performance, sucked and fucked just great. And she was so beautiful, just 18, white and pink, fresh with little pointed tits. Deserved $1 tip on top of the $5 service fee.

Enough excitement for the night. Walked back to Freedom bar for a beer or two. They had some film on the big screen. Plus it's fun observing the mature men making fools of themselves in front of the young Khmer chicks. Sure there are plenty of them. But here you have to compete with other men. It's totally degrading for us all. I am sure you will agree.
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How to improve the World....

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Some notes:
I am also sure that many of you will agree that sex-tourism has it's great merits. It really makes us independent of meat. So we can deal with them objectively when we go home. Because we are satisfied and won't faint by the sight of a smelly white ass or pairs of shapeless meat-bangers.

Therefore we become better people, more objective, more cool-headed and more peaceful. It makes our workplace relations better, our families better and in effect our whole ****-ry. The time might come when women will not make any decisions at all and will not be able to affect men by sex or the lack of it. Therefore men will be in charge and make decisions that have real value and not only look good on the surface as women do.

In fact sex-tourism should be made compulsory for every company director and for all men in charge so they can act and think more objectively. Also it should be made accessible to all male members of the police forces so they can also act more objectively, unbiased and of course less violent.
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All these experiences make you wonder: Why is it that when men see a pair of naked female breasts they all tend to faint? When really it is nothing, worth next to nothing, exactly $5. And it even could become cheaper than that. About $1/fuck would be the correct price in any country.

Nothing is constant, everything is motion. Which way is it going? Is meat becoming cheaper or more expensive worldwide? It is only up to us, up to men. We can make a change. You can make a change. Please do.
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END of this Cambodia report.

That Asshole
01-09-07, 07:19
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Complete Kambuja 2007 report
from "World Sextourist Headquarters" WSTHQ
Phnom Penh

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This report will detail the following topics:

1.> travel to Cambodia from Thailand (by air and overland)
2.> border crossings at Kokong, Poipet and Pailin
3.> Phnom Penh Siti
4.> Sihanukville
5.> Kampot
6.> Kep
7.> Krache (Kratie)
8.> Kompong Cham
8.> Some lovely stories to cherish
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PHNOM PENH

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General:

Capital siti of Cambodia. Quite exotic and once you get used to the workings of the system even can be called "enjoyable". Certainly it is not "thai" and it is already a praise. If you hate Pattaya because of the dirt of a crowd assembling there, you will find this siti much preferable because of the lack of above (yet). Although not nearly as good as used to be just 5 years ago, P.Pen delivers a good supply of meat. (Do we ever ask ourselves guys: What happened to K11?)

Transport / visa:
P.Pen has one international airport with good connections to Bangkok, Singapore, Vientiane among other asian sitiz. Transport to town is by moto taxi ($3) or taxi ($7+). If you arrive by air, you will be issued a 30 day tourist visa at the airport with very little hassles.You will need $20 and one foto. At the land borders the hassles are much greater and often extra (secret)fees are added. You can also arrange the visa at the Bankok Embassy in one day for $25.

The main bus terminals are located around the central market (Psar Tmei). Several companies service routes around the country and to neigboring thailand and Vietnam.

Local transport is mainly by motorcycle-taxi (moto). Minimum fare is 2000 Riel, although most drivers routinely ask foreigners $1. Negotiating is the norm.

Money/banking: Local currency is the Riel. approx $1=4000 Riel and 1THB=100 riel. Banking is very liberalised and many money changers can be found at all markets and around town. It is not necessary to go to banks. Now ATMs are also available in several locations. The USD is also widely accepted and the Thai Baht near the border.

Accomodation/food: see earlier report

Meat: some details will follow. Also recommended to consult earlier report as most details are still valid.
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Phnom Penh experiences:

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One day in Phnom Penh, Cambodia

Before arriving I resolved to systematically ignore motos. Every day, everywhere, except when I really need one. Checked in to a hotel near the market. Went to feed on pizza. They make those well in P.Pen.

Funnily, just at the next table one very heroic looking backpacker boy was explaining how he discovered some "brothels of prostitutes" in Poipet and how gisguisting he found it all. All the while taking hopeful glances to the hos if a "free fuck" might be in line for him from the other 2 females, for his great attitude towards this deplorable trade of flesh.

I was thinking:"Just wait my boy until you get old. You will talk differently." The two backpacker hos kept nodding agreeably, "yes, sure it is disguisting, We would never do that sort of thing. We do it for free". I cannot really despise this boy, as we were all like this when we just stepped off mama's skirt. However, it makes me angry a bit when I see fully grown adult men still acting like this, being fully aware that they are in fact hypocrits.

After this I checked out the massage at "New York Hotel", as some recommended it on the forum. They rounded in the meat, about 12 of them. 2 or 3 looked doable. Price? $5. And I have to discuss "other services" with the meat. Fuck that! What is all this fake innocency? It just felt stupid to negotiate and beg with the meat to lower the price. Ridiculous place, I left in a hurry. Then went to check out some bars like Rose bar and Walkabout. Here all these places you will have to negotiate with meat and you have to compete with other gentlemen for the meat's favours. How they don't notice that it is very degrading for all of us. It leads to competing, fighting and bad feelings. I wish they would understand soon that what matters is not how good you are but how good we all are, together! Then we set our own terms.

In the evening went to have a look at Sharkies (funny, the locals pronounce it 'sucky-bar' -really). Most of the fun is to observe how old men make complete fools of themselves in front of those young girls. (What will they think of us, all?) One woman with a great hairdo sat down next to me. I just moved away, really I don't know what to say to meat. I very much like to talk with their "owners" first, fix the price and then maybe say them a few words just to make them happy.But really guys, what can you say to meat that you haven's said before? Isn't it boring?

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Group of Beauty Vietnamese chicks for $5

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I had a much better idea in mind. Target: Street#63. Scary a bit as it got some bad publicity lately (possibly from competing farang bars?). As I walk dow the road, trying hard not to be overrun by motorbikes and cyclos a man calls out "want lady?" I felt a bit apprehensive, so cautiously looked around, asking him to show me the goods. Most surprisingly, inside I found the most gorgeous group of lovelies from Vietnam. Fuck, they were great. All leggy, tall, no little monkies here. I chose my girl. Room small but clean and with good lights.

Me thinking: "Fuck, this one must be one of the most beautiful viet animals ever in the trade". Perfect face, smile, teeth, peach velvety skin, large mammaries, toned belly area. Totally awesome specimen to please some old, deranged farang men. Price:$5/pop. She no sucks but asks another $5 for it. I decline, as it is not that important. Another will suck eventually but unlikely that will look like this. I feel as if hitting the jackpot on the state-lottery.

Those rotten porno mags in our sex-shops start in price at $29 and they are just made of paper. And this is real meat for $5. Can you picture the difference?

She no great service but who cares. Her tits are totally amazingly shaped and very sizeable. Kind of the nipples on the upper part. She fucks allright too, with power like a young girl would.

Once outside again, I tell the boss that the girl no suck (it's good when you can discuss it with a "man". Mamasans suck - you know what I mean.) Yes, he says:"Here it costs extra $5". So, the girl was right. Anyway, don't we all love negotiating the price of meat with another man? I haggle the F+S down to $7. I pick another girl. Not quite as pretty face but still great and yet taller, leggier too. (Quite a few look like some models from a magazine, or beauty contest). She grabs my hand and leads me to another room.

As we walk upstairs I notice another most amazing girl totally naked, just drying herself off with a towel, behind a half opened door. Fuck, that is the tallest, leggiest of them all.

Anyway, I just continue with this girl. This one refuses to suck again but otherwise puts on a very hot performence, much better than the one before. She loves to be on top too and ride hard. Once outside, I pay the boss $5 only, saying that the girl didn't suck. He calls the girl, asks her and gives her an angry look. (She made him look silly). Takes the $5. Well, I just had to pick another one. When all finished with the next one again, the boss made it a point to request "please come again sir".


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Le Circee Bar

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Next stop: Le Circee bar, st49. There was quite a crowd by that time, but it didn't matter as one of the prettiest Khmer girls was still free (possibly just finished bonking some ugly farang). The others were unfortunately not much to look at. Here I had to pay $17 total for room and girl. Actually, I haggled it down to $16 but gave it to her anyway as she was okay, if nothing great.

What I like at Circee at peak time is the communal naked shower room upstairs. All the naked men and girls lining up for a wash, like a porno set. It is very social and funny, as we are all equal without clothes.

After this I decided to return again to the #63 street area and looked around in the dark roads, such as st. #130, 144, 148, 154. Sure it is scary there without any street-lighting (still safer than Pattaya, in my opinion) but in fact there are brothels on every street and foreigners are welcomed at most. Some ask ridiculous prices, like $30 ST, but others are just $5-10. Did just one more very-very large breasted Kambo girl that night but got plenty of ideas on where to return the following days. There is no reason why you cannot do the same. The farang bars like Circee would die to have some of the meat that is sold here for 1/3 of the price.
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Travel Overland From Thai

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Should you decide to proceed overland from Pattaya or Bangkok, you can proceed the following way. Your trip may also include a visit to Koh Chunk in Thailand as it also has a bar-scene (details provided+maps), as well Laem Ngop - a nice quiet and pretty town and Trat as a transport junction where you will pass through.

As mentioned, apart from Cambodia the following will also detail:

> Ko Chunk (incl map of bars (Thailand)
> Laem Ngop town (Thailand)
> Trat Siti (Thailand)

Cambodia, getting there and away by land:

1./ Pattaya to >Ko Kong / Pailin
You can cross the border from Thailand and to be issued with instant Cambodian visas at 3 points. However, starting from Pattaya the Poipet crossing is not convenient so we will detail only the other two here. For further detailed info including Poipet please refer to the previous report.
The Pattaya/Phnom Penh trip will contain these easily accomplishable sections: 1.1/ Pattaya-Rayong, 1.2/ Rayong-Chantaburi-Trat or Rayong-Trat, 1.3/Trat-Kokong (Cambodia), 1.4/ Kokong-Sihanukville, 1.5/ Sihanukville-Phnom Penh.

1.1/ There are very frequent bus services between Pattaya and Rayong, eg every 20 minutes. You can hail the large buses displaying "Rayong" anywhere on Sukumvit road (thew main road from Bangkok). Please note that the sign may be in both English and Thai or Thai only. The bus is airconditioned and comfortable. The fare is 50B and the trip takes approx 90 minutes. Some sources suggest that you better catch the direct bus that goes to Trat. However this is not necessary as there are very frequent connections onward from Rayong.

1.2/ You will arrive at the Rayong bus station, in the center of town and next to a big market. As you get off the bus you may be hassled by tuk-tuks offering to take you to Ko Samet. But they are nice and if you just say "Chantaburi" or "Trat" they will direct you to the right bus. Otherwise the Rayong bus station is very small, organized and easy to get around. You may even choose to spend the night in Rayong (many hotels near the bus) and have a look at the picturesque fishing harbour and excellent night markets. There are even massage parlours and a few bars.

1.3/ The bus trip from Rayong to Chantaburi takes 2 hours, costs 70B. To Trat it is 3 hours and around 100B. If you want to cross the border the same day you better head for Trat. However if you feel spending another night in a Thai town then Chantaburi is the better choice. There is better accomodation, the town is prettier and there is more to do in general. Then the next day you can either take a quick trip to Trat (54B/1hr) to cross at Kokong or you can take the Pailin crossing direct from Chantaburi (see previous report for more details of crossing the border).
About Chantaburi: It is a very Chinese town with lots of temples, a pretty river, old chinese quarters and it is also a major gem-trading center. If you want to stop on the way coming back, it has direct bus connections with Bangkok and also 6 daily buses to Khorat/Buriram. There are 2 routes to Bkk. The old one goes via Pattaya and takes 6 hours, terminating at Ekkamai, Eastern Treminal. The new route takes 4 hours, bypasses Pattaya and terminates in Mochit, Northern terminal.

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TRAT (Thailand) -including map

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About Trat: This is a smaller town but the jump-off point to Ko Chunk. Has a few hotels and a reasonable night market in the center of town. Now there is a new bus station 2km north and this handles most connections inland and the border, Ko Chunk, etc. There are still some buses to Bkk that leave from the city center but the border run has now moved to the bus station. However they might still pick you up from town for free if you report at the office of the Bkk. bus (marked on the map). Frequent pick-up trucks run to the border for 110B and to the passenger ferry 50B.
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KO CHUNK (Thailand) -including map

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1.3.1/ Side trip to Ko Chunk: It is a very attractive and laid-back island, something like Ko Samui could have been 20 years ago. Still there are lots of facilities and reasonable accomodation. The construction boom is on, so no doubt it will be all destroyed in the next couple of years. Two car/passenger ferries and one passenger ferry run the short distance from the mainland port of Laem Ngop. The crossing only takes 20-30 minutes.

Ko Chunk General:

It is called Ko Chunk because it is very chunky. See photo. Nearly all the beaches are on the west coast and this side has an excellent wide road all along. Motorbikes can be hired or songthaews do the runs between beaches, 40-100B. There are lots of shops, even some 7/11s, restaurants, banks, money-changers, ATMs, and the usual Pattaya style beerbars.

White Beach is the most commercialised, the others are still peaceful and quiet. Locals are very friendly. Amazingly they even stop to talk with foreigners. Where else do Thais do that? Even dogs seem sleepy, too lazy to bark. Lots of backpackers, as usual everywhere about 2 women travellersfor every male tourist.

Accomodation / food: still quite good value and basic bungalows start from 250B seaside. On the hillside of the road it is even cheaper. Lots of expats seem to stay by the month. Farang food is not cheap but there are also some cheap thai foodstalls, catering mainly to the locals and prices are low.
Meat: The largest center of about 15 bars (BF 300B, ST500, LT1000) is on White Beach. Quality is generally low but there are some real lookers. The next center is about 2km south of this. Further on there are smaller bar centres at every major beach.

Approximate locations of bar centres are marked with a capital "B" on the map. There is also the backpacker meat but you being 60 maybe don't have much chance there, as things stand at present (maybe after men start to rule...)

Costs: It will be cheaper in Cambodia. As a comparison, Ko Chunk nice room 600B, beer 30B, ST meat 800B. Sihanukville: nice room 400, beer 30, ST meat 300B.

Observations about Ko Chunk bars (marked with "B" on map): Lot of men seem to smoke at the bars. Are they stressed having to chat with the meat? Please note that there are many cute backpacker boys too with nice haircuts and shirts sitting around. Also the foreign meat sits down regularly at bars and this of course has no good effect on the attitude of local meat. (Must love A/C, Kon Ken and Surabaya where there is no mixing with foreign western meat.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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LAEM NGOP (Thailand) -including map

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Laem Ngop village:

Lots of travellers seem to overlook this charming town, home to the ferry terminals. It is very pretty right on the water with a long jetty, beautifully located restaurants the friendliest thais you ever find (mostly muslim) and it is so quiet at night. There is a selection of 6 hotels and guesthouses and even has a TAT information office. Again, you can walk, fish from the jetty and the dogs are too lazy even to bark.

And, the town has one karaoke joint on the road to Trat, about 1 km from town. Surely it is worth a couple of days visit and you can peacefully make your Canbo F-plans. When you are ready there are hourly trucks to Trat for 40B and can easily make it to the border by midday. There is even a direct bus from Ekamai Bkk to Laem Ngop twice a day (7.45 and 9.45 am) From Laem Ngop the bus to Bkk leaves at 2 and 4pm, arriving 5 hours later.
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KO KONG (Cambodia)

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Cock-Ong siti (Kambodia)

General:
If you didn't know it was a siti you wouldn't believe it. It's a craphole really with dusty roads and lots of nuisance moto drivers. However it is the gateway to Sihanukville and Thailand and Kokong also has a chicken farm, (which has it's ups and downs).

The presence of farang expats has brought no good news unfortunately. The current trend being of finding a pretty girl and then cohabiting with her for weeks and months. Please feel free to voice your opinion of how deplorable you consider this practice. Before the farangs arrived and settled down there were always many Viet and Khmer beauties available for ST for as little as $3/pop. Let's hope the permanent farangs will move out soon.

Accomodation / food:
Accomodation is one aspect the town excels. Several good quality hotels have been built recently and finding a brand new room with aircon for $10 is no problem. If you go with a moto most places will add $1 to your bill. Distances are short and you can easily walk around until you find something nice. All the many expat bars have pricey farang food. The locally owned hotels usually also have menu in English and prices of Khmer food are more reasonable, like 40 B for fried rice.

Transport:
As you cross the border from Thailand, legions of moto drivers descend on you. No matter how many times you have already done the trip, it's always a hassle. The same as you arrive on the boat from Sihanouk. The standard fare to Kokong town is 50B (including the bridge toll of 11B). The road now is quite good. once you cross the bridge, you arrived. Lots of hotels around. If you come from Sihanoukville, the boat terminal is near the centre of town, right next to some nice hotels. You don't need a moto, unless want to make it to the border right away. (There is no bridge toll going the other way.)

The boat to Sihanouk leaves at 8am, costs 600B. There is also a public bus for the same price but the trip takes twice as long. The town is crap, hassles are lots. for these reasons I always recommend crossing at Pailin from Chantaburi, which is much better. See previous report for details.
Banks / moni: Baht and USD are accepted everywhere. But if you go further to Sihanouk you will have to change some Riels (Khmer currency). Approx. 1B=100 R and $1=4000 R. Lots of moni changers around the market.

Meat:
You can't help but notice all these single middle aged men wandering around town. Many from Pattaya on visa runs. Others live here permanently. Thsi is a real sex-tourist destination but unfortunately without a good steady supply of good quality meat. The source being the Chicken's farm located on a very dark dirt road some 2 km from the market.

What you will see there is lots of farangs sweet-talking these little girls. Possibly in the vague hope of scoring a free fuck? But can't blame them, this is what their women teachers inscribed in their minds back at home. They don't know what they are doing.
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This is the story of one particular night: ("...her nipples burned like chillies...")

First of all found, a very nice room for $8. Fed on some Baguette sandwich from the market for 50c. Caught a moto to the Chicken Village for 10B. There I told him to leave as plenty of motos are available for return trip. The road is really very dark and unsafe looking, among rice filelds. There are 2 blocks of brothels. First you reach a smaller block of about 3 houses and a further very dark road leads to another cluster of about 6 houses. They are all shitty.

The very few pretty girls are picked up by long timers the rest is ugly or have a bad attitude (being spoilt). I picked one ugly from the first cluster, to take away 300B/2hrs in hotel. Moto costed another 20 B back for 2 of us.
My ugly girl showered for one hour, refused to suck, had an tasteless wrinkled belly, complained about everything and only wanted to lie on her back watching TV. I turned off the television and gave her some pumping. She moaned, wow some success! Anyway it was a fuckup.

We took another moto back for 20b. Dropped her off and continued further to the second block. There talked with a very large headed girl. She was pretty enough but I can't fuck anything with such a large head. I imagined that her big toe would be as large too and that put me off. There were also many Khmer boys present and the women don't like to talk about BJ in front of them. Whenever I raised the issue they went "shhh, shhh", pointing to the locals. After all the big headed girl pointed to another one that would "do karaoke".

We went into a shitty dark room, no shower. Started fucking right away. I am sure somebody who sucked her nipples right before me ate some spicy food because they tasted like chillies and burned my lips. She did some little BJ with rubber only and her belly was ugly again. (even though they promised she was childless) After the fuck she just dressed up, no washing again. I hated this cheating and got very disillusioned.

I usually give a fuck-point for myself if I dip in at least 5 times but in this one I did only four and had enough. Another fuck-up. So, for the two fucks that day I only earned one point, which is quite disappointing. Next day as soon as I stepped out of my room the previous days moto driver started pestering me. That was enough, had to get out of this leprous town. As I tried to make my way to the restaurant opposite he constantly tried to cut off my way on his bike. Then I got really angry and told him to get fuck off. All I could say: What a shitty place.....! (Hopefully you will be luckier. It's worth a look anyway.)
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Member #2041
01-09-07, 20:56
I have to admit, the prior poster has certainly given himself an appropriate handle. Nothing like a trip report that talks about the ladies as though they are livestock rather than human beings. Just because the price of the service is extremely low in Cambodia, is no reason not to treat the ladies as actual people rather than like farm animals.

MisterMax808
01-10-07, 03:13
He looks at her as "chattel".

She looks at him as an "ATM" machine.

Fair is fair.

That Asshole
01-10-07, 04:54
I have to admit, the prior poster has certainly given himself an appropriate handle. Nothing like a trip report that talks about the ladies as though they are livestock rather than human beings. Just because the price of the service is extremely low in Cambodia, is no reason not to treat the ladies as actual people rather than like farm animals.

Yes, member#2041 is right. However,>>>

Extract from the report:

"All these experiences make you wonder: Why is it that when men see a pair of naked female breasts they all tend to faint? When really it is nothing, worth next to nothing, exactly $5. "

Of course we realise that the price of "company" can be such favorable in Cambodia and Indonesia (nearly on par) only because of women's general low status and low political influence there. Even if we compare it with the general price levels it is still extremely cheap (price of a pizza or a few beers).

Give them more rights and the price will shoot up plus quality of service drop. It also works the other way. Popular media is doing a good job every day to lift them up. I do it the other way around. It is as simple as that. It all has a reason. Really, what do you want?

Otherwise, as I said you are right in all observations, even for the name.

Regards, TA

Prince Harry
01-10-07, 10:00
Reports in australia today of an australian man missing in sihanoukville.He is a member of a group of university students who are seventh day adventists and were in the country doing good works.
We met them on occateul beach a few days ago and they seemed to be a nice group of young people.This chap apparently went out on a motorcycle the night before they were to catch the boat and never came back.
The police have so far searched extensively in the areas that a lapsed adventist may frequent including the gingerbread house,the choukcrat guesthouse,various joints around omnui and have now widened the search to poontimai.
The khmer authorities believe that the chap will reappear when his money runs out.

Phantomtiger2
01-10-07, 18:33
Reports in australia today of an australian man missing in sihanoukville.He is a member of a group of university students who are seventh day adventists and were in the country doing good works.
We met them on occateul beach a few days ago and they seemed to be a nice group of young people.This chap apparently went out on a motorcycle the night before they were to catch the boat and never came back.
The police have so far searched extensively in the areas that a lapsed adventist may frequent including the gingerbread house,the choukcrat guesthouse,various joints around omnui and have now widened the search to poontimai.
The khmer authorities believe that the chap will reappear when his money runs out.

Missing a motobike is common as theft is rampant in Snooky, but missing an Aussie is unusual. If he didnt give any indications to his pals that he's going to skip town then it sounds serious as crime seems to be on an upswing here. I hope he is ok.


PT