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  1. #11020
    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyPete  [View Original Post]
    I've done that option a couple of times myself on the afternoon JAL flight. Getting out and back in to NRT is very easy and the hotels are not too expensive (although the rooms are quite small). I've recovered from jetlag quicker once back home. Of course, it takes away an evening in Manila but I never do much anyway when I know I have to awake at 5 am for a 26 hour trip back home.
    I had a 14:50 flight from Manila so it was ok. Last night I had 2 girls from AC come to Manila so I didn't miss out on any action. Had double good time and the girls left around 8 am so I wasn't rushed to pack and grab lunch before heading for NAIA.

    Personally I don't do morning flights anymore if I can help it. Too hard on my body. Used to hate the only flights out of BKK for me was 6 am.

  2. #11019
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    Just left Manila 5 hours ago and have a one night layover in Tokyo. I decided take this option as the ticket was $200 less. One night hotel room is less than $80 and it breaks up the flights. I am hoping I will have less jet lag.

    Flew ANA and everything was timely and orderly. In plane meal and service was great. Lots of overhead carry on space. Didn't see anyone with more than one carry on and one personal bag.

    Immigration was quick and orderly with officer checking your questionnaire before being allowed to enter the line. One single line with an officer at the front of the line directing you to the next available booth. One minute later, fingerprinted, photographed and passport stamped you are in Japan.

    After getting my luggage and passed customs I realized I didn't have any cash with me! I went to Information desk and asked if my hotel had a shuttle bus? She pulled out a binder and looked up the hotel and said yes and it will come in 2 hours. I then asked if taxis took credit cards and she said yes, of course. I then asked approximately how much and she replied around 1400 yen.

    I went out to the taxi line and show the driver my hotel name and asked if it was 1400 yen. He said close to it but for 200 yen I could just take the bus which ran in 10 minutes. He was dumbfounded that I said let's go. The meter was actually 1210.

    I am so shocked no taxi rip offs and the guy tried to save me some money!

    BTW, electric motored taxi which was spacious and clean!

    Oh yes one other thing, super fast wifi in the hotel.
    I've done that option a couple of times myself on the afternoon JAL flight. Getting out and back in to NRT is very easy and the hotels are not too expensive (although the rooms are quite small). I've recovered from jetlag quicker once back home. Of course, it takes away an evening in Manila but I never do much anyway when I know I have to awake at 5 am for a 26 hour trip back home.

  3. #11018

    Culture shock

    Just left Manila 5 hours ago and have a one night layover in Tokyo. I decided take this option as the ticket was $200 less. One night hotel room is less than $80 and it breaks up the flights. I am hoping I will have less jet lag.

    Flew ANA and everything was timely and orderly. In plane meal and service was great. Lots of overhead carry on space. Didn't see anyone with more than one carry on and one personal bag.

    Immigration was quick and orderly with officer checking your questionnaire before being allowed to enter the line. One single line with an officer at the front of the line directing you to the next available booth. One minute later, fingerprinted, photographed and passport stamped you are in Japan.

    After getting my luggage and passed customs I realized I didn't have any cash with me! I went to Information desk and asked if my hotel had a shuttle bus? She pulled out a binder and looked up the hotel and said yes and it will come in 2 hours. I then asked if taxis took credit cards and she said yes, of course. I then asked approximately how much and she replied around 1400 yen.

    I went out to the taxi line and show the driver my hotel name and asked if it was 1400 yen. He said close to it but for 200 yen I could just take the bus which ran in 10 minutes. He was dumbfounded that I said let's go. The meter was actually 1210.

    I am so shocked no taxi rip offs and the guy tried to save me some money!

    BTW, electric motored taxi which was spacious and clean!

    Oh yes one other thing, super fast wifi in the hotel.

  4. #11017
    Quote Originally Posted by GenevaGuy  [View Original Post]
    So let me share my tips with you:-for me, and again, was tested out 2 weeks ago by another ISG member and he reports it worked fine. Good luck let us know if this works, any questions, GG.
    All your simple common sense suggestions are very good. Just note that departing international from Manila Terminal 2, the Filipino and Foreign queues are on opposite sides, so cannot go through together -- wait and watch for her. I'd contend how you are perceived is a paramount factor, so both need to dress 'appropriate'. They will look through phone, whatsapp, tablet photos, et'al. Make sure hers are cleaned up and have photos of you -- and chat logs with you -- for them to see.

  5. #11016

    Singapore tips

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul2020  [View Original Post]
    I've taken three Filipinas out of the Philippines to Hong Kong. All with virgin Passports. All were early 20's. The first had a job as a helper at a private school. Not sure what she told the immigration officer, but there was no delay. This was about 10 years ago. I wasn't aware at the time of any problems at the time so I didn't pay any attention. They might have been less strict then. We met on a dating site.

    The second I also met on a dating site and was a student. They took her off to the side and interviewed her for several minutes. I was waiting between immigration and security, when another immigration officer saw me, and suggested I go into the area where they were questioning her. After a few questions to me, and looking at our itinerary that I had on hardcopy, they made us both sign some forms that we would return on the specific dates etc. I told them I was returning to the USA directly from Hong Kong and they let me annotate that on the form. A Cebu Pacific agent had come looking for us. We were the last to board the flight. At the time, I was still unaware that these checks would happen, but read all about them after the trip.

    The third I had met in Angeles. Knowing the situation, we agreed to tell them that we met on facebook. We also arrived early at the airport so that if we were delayed, we could still make the flight. We went through the separate immigration lines, and I then walked towards the officer who was processing her. The female officer was very friendly in her questioning and asked how long we knew each other (2 years), if we had traveled before (Baguio, Butuan, Davao). She wanted to see pictures from Baguio. My girlfriend was looking for them on her tablet but was having trouble finding them. So I took out my laptop and started to look for them when the immigration officer saw a picture of her, her parents, and I together (just taken a few days before). She asked if those were her parents. When my girlfriend replied yes, the immigration officer immediately stamped her passport and let her through.

    In a few months we will be going to Singapore and will be interesting to see what happens with a non virgin passport.
    I have taken filipinas and viets thru SG immigration, and just had another ISG "buddy" get a girl from Laos through. So let me share my tips with you:

    -Give her a minimum of 500 USD to hold, they rarely ask to look at it, but they will ask her how much $ she has (and they could ask to see it).

    -Have a paper copy of the return ticket iterinary, they ask for this almost 100% of the time (and if you haven't booked a return ticket, it could be a big problem for her), don't be a cheap charlie, book the return ticket, you can always change it.

    -Fill out the immigration form properly, in pen and in English, readable.

    -Don't go immediately into an immigration line. Stand and watch and see who is faster and more friendly of the ICE agents. I try not to go to women with the girls, go to the men agents.

    -When you enter a line, stand behind her but when its her turn, don't YOU go past the red line. She goes first. Sometimes you can catch the ICE agents eye when she is going up or is at the agent and say "we are together".

    -YOU go second in case they pull her to the desk on the side (pre-immigration). You follow her over to the desk, don't go thru immigration if she is pulled aside, follow her to the desk (often the agents don't accompany the girls, just send them over to the desk on the side).

    -While you are waiting for her to get passed thru the line, If another agent in another booth signals you over, just say "thanks, we are together and I am waiting for her to finish up" Don't move out of the line behind her.

    -The girl needs to look the agent in the eye and answer directly (none of this shy asian girl crap). For some, singlish that the speak (fast and lots of slang) is hard to understand, so if she doesn't understand what the ICE agent asks, she should politely say "please repeat, I didn't understand the question. ".

    -She needs to know WHERE you are staying in SG, exactly (its on the immigration form, but sometimes they ask the person).

    This has worked like a charm for me, and again, was tested out 2 weeks ago by another ISG member and he reports it worked fine.

    Good luck let us know if this works, any questions, PM me.

    GG.

  6. #11015
    Granted-It is nice to to take a pretty young Philippina to another country and have a nice vacation like boyfriend and girlfriend.

    However on the girl, end she is thinking how to look for a long time relationship and get out of Philippines. There are plenty of places in Philippines itself where you can have a nice vacation. This will eliminate all problems with immigration. You actually do not know what immigration people write on your profile. If the girl fails to come back they will know who took her out of the country. Do you need the hassle?

    I have taken only Thai girls outside the country to have a vacation. There are no restrictions.

  7. #11014

    Oversea Travel With A Filipina

    Quote Originally Posted by MsAccount  [View Original Post]
    What is the secret to getting past immigration. Do you have to travel with them? Is it a return ticket? Sorry another FR based upon a question. Hopefully my FR balance allows my recent multiple questions.
    To increase the girl's chances getting past immigration and onto her flight, have her take a class offered by BI. Designed to educate Filipinas who will work or permanently immigrate overseas about the possible dangers they might face. One day class is available in Manila and / or Cebu for 400 php.

  8. #11013

    Filipino girls travelling overseas

    Quote Originally Posted by MsAccount  [View Original Post]
    I have planned an overseas SE Asian trip with a long time regular of mine most likely HK or Singapore.
    I've taken three Filipinas out of the Philippines to Hong Kong. All with virgin Passports. All were early 20's. The first had a job as a helper at a private school. Not sure what she told the immigration officer, but there was no delay. This was about 10 years ago. I wasn't aware at the time of any problems at the time so I didn't pay any attention. They might have been less strict then. We met on a dating site.

    The second I also met on a dating site and was a student. They took her off to the side and interviewed her for several minutes. I was waiting between immigration and security, when another immigration officer saw me, and suggested I go into the area where they were questioning her. After a few questions to me, and looking at our itinerary that I had on hardcopy, they made us both sign some forms that we would return on the specific dates etc. I told them I was returning to the USA directly from Hong Kong and they let me annotate that on the form. A Cebu Pacific agent had come looking for us. We were the last to board the flight. At the time, I was still unaware that these checks would happen, but read all about them after the trip.

    The third I had met in Angeles. Knowing the situation, we agreed to tell them that we met on facebook. We also arrived early at the airport so that if we were delayed, we could still make the flight. We went through the separate immigration lines, and I then walked towards the officer who was processing her. The female officer was very friendly in her questioning and asked how long we knew each other (2 years), if we had traveled before (Baguio, Butuan, Davao). She wanted to see pictures from Baguio. My girlfriend was looking for them on her tablet but was having trouble finding them. So I took out my laptop and started to look for them when the immigration officer saw a picture of her, her parents, and I together (just taken a few days before). She asked if those were her parents. When my girlfriend replied yes, the immigration officer immediately stamped her passport and let her through.

    In a few months we will be going to Singapore and will be interesting to see what happens with a non virgin passport.

  9. #11012
    Quote Originally Posted by BrainDrain  [View Original Post]
    And I think that there are more likely to be filipinos trafficing the girls than it is to be tall single white males.

    BD.
    That is very true, some are based in the destination country and scam there when they arrive. The UAE is full of runaway DHs / house girls who used a Filipino agency and the pinoy / pinay in the UAE who represent that agency then change the contract etc.

    I know many Filipinos but some of them (these for example) are scum.

  10. #11011
    Quote Originally Posted by AussieGaigin  [View Original Post]
    I would suggest there is less problem getting out of your own country than there would be getting in to another. Your arrival point is where all the questions about your intentions start.
    In any civilized country, there are no problems for citizens to leave. In the Philippines, however...

  11. #11010
    I would suggest there is less problem getting out of your own country than there would be getting in to another. Your arrival point is where all the questions about your intentions start.

  12. #11009
    Quote Originally Posted by MrWoolyBooly  [View Original Post]
    After a foreign stamp or two in the passport, I think they figure the woman knows how to take care of herself and stay out of trouble, I. E. Not embarass the country. No problems after the first trip.
    While our monger intentions is to have a good outside Philippines holiday with a cute filipina the reality is that there are probably (possibly) some not so well intentioned travellers that would want to take poor girls out of Philippines and put them to work overseas. The selling price for a massage in AC is P300 per hour, the equivalent price in my home town P4000, then add extras. So the financial rewards are there for the less honourable members of society. That we go through that same protection and we pass, that's a good thing.

    And I think that there are more likely to be filipinos trafficing the girls than it is to be tall single white males.

    BD.

  13. #11008
    Quote Originally Posted by WickedRoger  [View Original Post]
    Many have failed to get past this and is strange to some that a citizen is not allowed to leave for a holiday but this is the Philippines! Also the country visited is important..
    Not strange as some other countries do they same for (or to) their citizens. It may be for the best intentions or else they just don't want the expense of aiding their nationals or providing Consular service to nuisances abroad. No different from US in this respect. Or else, the destination country applies leverage to keep out unmoneyed visitors.

    Since we all have 'lots of experience' with this subject, imagine how much the experience varies. Key factor IMHO is how the immigration agent perceives you. And her.

  14. #11007
    Quote Originally Posted by MrWoolyBooly  [View Original Post]
    I've travelled overseas with Pinays. I never had problems when the Pinay's passport already had stamps from previous overseas travel. No questions, not pulled aside. One time it was a young Pinay lady's first time going overseas (Hong Kong) with a virgin passport. The "immigration" lady officer set us a few meters apart and asked us similar question. "How did you meet? Where did you meet? How long have you known each other?" etc. They really do treat their own citizens as children "for their protection. " My current assumption is the departing Pinay needs to convince the "immigration" officer she's not going to do anything to make the Philippines lose face, such as work in a nudie bar, or stay and work illegally, or transport illegal substances, or whatever. "Visiting a friend" won't cut it.

    After a foreign stamp or two in the passport, I think they figure the woman knows how to take care of herself and stay out of trouble, I. E. Not embarass the country. No problems after the first trip.
    While I would generally concur with you WB I know many examples where even that does not help.

    One of my cuties works at the airport with the airlines and at times is on the shift where she waits to be told who is offloaded and am surprised who is.

    Another in her 30's with kids and work going to Singapore for a holiday (package tour via an agency) was offloaded and got no / minimal refund. So is hard to say for sure what immigration will do at times.

  15. #11006
    Quote Originally Posted by MsAccount  [View Original Post]
    I have planned an overseas SE Asian trip with a long time regular of mine most likely HK or Singapore. I have not tried to take a Filipino girl out of the country before. A Manila bar girl I know (not the girl I have promised to take on a trip) was convinced by her friend to travel to work in a Japanese KTV in Singapore. , Bought a ticket (one way) but did not have a lot of spending money. Got blocked by immigration and refused exit. Told immigration visiting friend but they didn't believe her. Regularly I see girls corralled off for interviews by immigration. However I have met lots of girls who have travelled on local SE Asian trips funded by their foreign BF. What is the secret to getting past immigration. Do you have to travel with them? Is it a return ticket? Sorry another FR based upon a question. Hopefully my FR balance allows my recent multiple questions.
    I've travelled overseas with Pinays. I never had problems when the Pinay's passport already had stamps from previous overseas travel. No questions, not pulled aside. One time it was a young Pinay lady's first time going overseas (Hong Kong) with a virgin passport. The "immigration" lady officer set us a few meters apart and asked us similar question. "How did you meet? Where did you meet? How long have you known each other?" etc. They really do treat their own citizens as children "for their protection. " My current assumption is the departing Pinay needs to convince the "immigration" officer she's not going to do anything to make the Philippines lose face, such as work in a nudie bar, or stay and work illegally, or transport illegal substances, or whatever. "Visiting a friend" won't cut it.

    After a foreign stamp or two in the passport, I think they figure the woman knows how to take care of herself and stay out of trouble, I. E. Not embarass the country. No problems after the first trip.

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