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  1. #10943
    Quote Originally Posted by VernierCaliper  [View Original Post]
    Yeah and regarding validating age, if they can not show a proper ID aka SSS-, Voters ID and / or passport, if you are in doubt, don't be and let her sail away. Student and employer IDs are easy faked (can even be bought for a couple of 100's php). Don't go that route. I know I am probably paranoid but for the love of whoever I don't want to end in a Phil slammer.
    Postal IDs are easily faked and have the age on it. A few shops in Manila (Greenhills) are known to do this.

  2. #10942
    Quote Originally Posted by MsAccount  [View Original Post]
    Many will have a university ID or employer ID but a lot of those don't have birth date on it. Just makes the whole goal of validating age more difficult. The more time I spend here the more I do feel sorry for people here as the system is against them.
    Yeah and regarding validating age, if they can not show a proper ID aka SSS-, Voters ID and / or passport, if you are in doubt, don't be and let her sail away. Student and employer IDs are easy faked (can even be bought for a couple of 100's php). Don't go that route. I know I am probably paranoid but for the love of whoever I don't want to end in a Phil slammer.

  3. #10941

    Contract Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    Probably due to "contractulaztion"! The 4 year degreed employees are on 6 month contracts so employers don't have to pay them benefits. So the staff person is either coming or going at any given time.
    The good part about this for regular visitors is that if you get a hottie's number from a worker at any mall or fast food place, she'll probably be unemployed in a few months and more "openminded" about meeting. Some hustle and stay almost constantly employed, but many don't.

  4. #10940

    Visa Extension

    I am in Cebu and I bought a motorcycle to travel around. I wanted to extend my visa from 30 days and I went to Cebu BI in J Mall in Mandaue. Very friendly stay issued me a 29 days extension and they suggested me to get a 6 months visa also to prevent problems in a case of an accident. But they have a rule one transaction per day. So, next day I went and they issued me a 6 month extension which now good until end of November.

    Immigration office is very friendly and very little waiting period. It was a good service.

  5. #10939
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    Remember, this is a country that "temporarily" ran out of photo, laminated driver's licenses about thee or four years ago, and still can't produce them; "temporarily" ran out of license plates about 5 years ago and still can't produce them; and "temporarily" ran out of automobile renewal stickers five years ago and can't replace them, though they still charge full price for all three. Given the aforementioned it should come as no surprise that the process for the issuance of any official document here is a lengthy, convoluted mess.

    GE.
    I managed to get my rego plates for my car in about 8 months and even the dealer was shocked.

    My cuties get their DL depending on where they are, one has been waiting 18 months and is a cause of huge frustration, Cebu is a mess based on what I hear but then as GE careful payments can help if receptive.

  6. #10938
    Quote Originally Posted by Vitaplex  [View Original Post]
    Then she had to apply again, pay and wait for another 3 months. I believe the story to be true, he was furious (her dad) so how long can people keep up with the mistreatment of its own people. Well I guess the elite get needed document fast without any hazzles. Its laughable for an outsider but I feel sorry for people stucked there.
    Thanks for all the feedback. In essence the answer is that the ID system in the Philippines is in chaos and I should not be surprised that most girls don't have formal ID. Many will have a university ID or employer ID but a lot of those don't have birth date on it. Just makes the whole goal of validating age more difficult. The more time I spend here the more I do feel sorry for people here as the system is against them.

  7. #10937
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam14  [View Original Post]
    GE, I applied for a duplicate DL and waited a year. Finally I told them I'm leaving the country and I really need it please. So with my magic ball pen I scratched out a note on a piece of paper and they printed my new licence right there. (100p tip). God works in mysterious ways.
    You wasted 100 p Sam.

    It's not really magic.

    All of us have been waiting for at least a year (me 14 months), but since mid-January you just need to rock up to the License agency (wherever LTO or an agency in a mall), show your "receipt" that verifies you've been waiting and then after around 30 minutes they will print your licence for you.

    They have spare cards now; you just have to present yourself to collect it. You also need to be careful offering cash for services too. Be sure the agent you deal with is receptive. There are CCTVs everywhere now and some employees are very scared to get caught accepting bribes.

  8. #10936
    GE comments etc hold truth and I was this very morning talking about how easy it was to get IDs and official documents for whatever purpose they may serve back in my real world (most is fixed with your social security number, password, electronical keydevice and a computer). My pinoy co worker slammed his hand at the table and told us to listen (we did); he told about his daughter trying to get herself a SSS ID. She was told it would take 3 months. When 3 months were up she called for her missing ID and got this "sorry we can not find you in our system"crap. She had paid some money upfront ofcourse. She was told the receit was no longer valid. Then she had to apply again, pay and wait for another 3 months. I believe the story to be true, he was furious (her dad) so how long can people keep up with the mistreatment of its own people. Well I guess the elite get needed document fast without any hazzles. Its laughable for an outsider but I feel sorry for people stucked there.

  9. #10935

    Out Of Stock

    GE, I applied for a duplicate DL and waited a year. Finally I told them I'm leaving the country and I really need it please. So with my magic ball pen I scratched out a note on a piece of paper and they printed my new licence right there. (100p tip). God works in mysterious ways.

  10. #10934
    Quote Originally Posted by Vitaplex  [View Original Post]
    What most pinays would have as a minimum is a postal ID (that's semi official, these days they talk about distributing an electronical one with biometrics as well), then you have various sorts of student visas, voters ID, drivers license SSS ID, NBI ID, PNP ID, etc etc. To get one ID you need to have this or that ID plus supporting documents (you have to read for each and one of them bcs its never the same for each ID). To get a passport you also need certain IDs and supporting documents. It is total chaos for me as an outsider so to stay sane I don't dive into this more.
    Remember, this is a country that "temporarily" ran out of photo, laminated driver's licenses about thee or four years ago, and still can't produce them; "temporarily" ran out of license plates about 5 years ago and still can't produce them; and "temporarily" ran out of automobile renewal stickers five years ago and can't replace them, though they still charge full price for all three. Given the aforementioned it should come as no surprise that the process for the issuance of any official document here is a lengthy, convoluted mess.

    GE.

  11. #10933
    Quote Originally Posted by MsAccount  [View Original Post]
    In the Western world most people would have drivers licence or proof of age card or passport. Can someone explain the ID system in the Philippines. Obviously most Filipinos won't have a passport or drivers licence. But what is the official formal ID? Is it unusual I get told by many girls they don't have ID? If they don't have it. How much does it cost for them to apply to get it (I would be prepared to fund it to remove any doubt)?
    What most pinays would have as a minimum is a postal ID (that's semi official, these days they talk about distributing an electronical one with biometrics as well), then you have various sorts of student visas, voters ID, drivers license SSS ID, NBI ID, PNP ID, etc etc. To get one ID you need to have this or that ID plus supporting documents (you have to read for each and one of them bcs its never the same for each ID). To get a passport you also need certain IDs and supporting documents. It is total chaos for me as an outsider so to stay sane I don't dive into this more.

  12. #10932
    Quote Originally Posted by MsAccount  [View Original Post]
    In the Western world most people would have drivers licence or proof of age card or passport. Can someone explain the ID system in the Philippines. Obviously most Filipinos won't have a passport or drivers licence. But what is the official formal ID? Is it unusual I get told by many girls they don't have ID? If they don't have it. How much does it cost for them to apply to get it (I would be prepared to fund it to remove any doubt)?
    Yes in the western world it is easy and cheap to get an ID. It is hard for us westerners to comprehend another system, let alone to understand it.

    In the Philippines as I understand there are many ID's like these but not limited to Postal, Barangay, School, Employer, Drivers license and birth certificate. Many are acceptable and many are not to some places, especially like Western Union, Cebuana and other money remittances businesses.

    Most girls do not have ID because of the cost. Depending on the issuer the cost could be $3 or more. $3 may not sound like much to us lucky foreigners but $3 could feed the family for a few days. Thusly most will never afford the luxury to pay for an ID.

    Some posters here think the girls are making a windfall at 1 k! 90% are always playing catch up with their money, paying on their credits and or 5/6 loans.

    President Du30 said he would like to centralize one national ID system but I have not heard anything else about that.

  13. #10931

    ID's

    In the Western world most people would have drivers licence or proof of age card or passport. Can someone explain the ID system in the Philippines. Obviously most Filipinos won't have a passport or drivers licence. But what is the official formal ID? Is it unusual I get told by many girls they don't have ID? If they don't have it. How much does it cost for them to apply to get it (I would be prepared to fund it to remove any doubt)?

  14. #10930

    My Schwab experience

    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]

    Schwab. Several gents here told me similar info about the Schwab ATM card. I checked the website, and sure enough one had to open a standard checking account ($200 balance), and also a trading account ($500 I believe). I opened both, thru the mail (one must download a 12-page document, print it out, answer many questions on the document, and mail it to Schwab with checks for $200 and $500 to open the accounts). A month later I got letters and an ATM card in the mail confirming the accounts were open. I added more to one of the accounts, which is linked to the ATM card. When overseas, the machine still charges the extra fees, but at the end of the month on my statement Schwab has rebated both the p200 ATM fee and the out-of-network fee (keep in mind, they are a bank, and are making money on the currency conversion, often giving as little as 3-5 pesos less per dollar when converting; so instead of getting 5000 pesos for my $100 at a money-exchanger, the ATM gives 5000 pesos and takes $106 dollars -- plus ATM fees -- from my account). I'm relatively happy with this in a pinch, but I still prefer the money exchangers (ie, Forex).
    First off, I am a US Citizen living in the US so maybe that is why my Schwab experience is different from Westies. Also, I opened my account a couple of years ago. They did do a full credit check since I was opening a brokerage account (a requirement for the High Interest Savings Account) which takes a few days, so plan early. Also, a bank-to-Schwab money transfer takes 3 business days to go through. There were no minimums; I still do not have any money in my brokerage account.

    I made numerous ATM withdrawals two weeks ago in Manila from various ATMs with my Schwab debit card. Most ATMs had a php10,000 limit; this is a local ATM limit, not my bank's limit. Not a bid deal with Schwab since I could make consecutive withdrawals without incurring any charge. My exchange rate was 49.19 php / dollar, as accounted for on my statement. I can not quote the exact exchange rate that week, but it was 49 and change. Today the official exchange rate is 49.72. For this difference, I will gladly take the convenience of using a local ATM vs carrying cash and travelling to a money exchanger. After all, money exchangers have got to take their cut as well.

    But to each his own.

  15. #10929
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    Its possible you have a relationship that weekend warriors don't.
    HSBC, from their website: Note: Non-Premier customers requesting to open an international banking account outside the U.S. and requiring assistance in the completion of all necessary paperwork from the International Banking Center in the U.S. or an HSBC branch in the U.S. will be charged a one-time fee of $200 USD. This fee is waived for HSBC Premier and Corporate Partner clients. There goes the advantage of saving the ATM fees.

    HSBC, regarding Premier services, from their website: To qualify for an HSBC Premier relationship, you are required to: Open an HSBC Premier checking account and maintain $100,000 in combined U.S. personal deposit and investment2 balances.
    Maybe you don't realize that HSBC, although multi-national, franchises each country operation, so you have HSBC (Philippines) and HSBC (Vietnam), for example, that operate under each country's laws.

    Despite this, they operate an international database.

    So, don't necessarily believe what is written on other country (US) websites WC.

    Much better to go in to a branch and talk to someone who has some authority. A good example from my experience. The website rules preclude me from opening a new Mastercard account as well as my Visa account, but when I went to my local branch and sat down with the accounts manager the rules were abandoned and I walked out with a new account.

    It's similar to my experience with hotel rates.

    The website say XYZ; when you talk to the sales manager you discover all sorts of special deals. For any intra-Philippines travel that I must pay for, I always call up the hotel and speak to the sales manager and some of the deals I have struck (as a local resident) are remarkable.

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