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  1. #11151
    Quote Originally Posted by Hutsori  [View Original Post]
    Not at all. Crabtree and Evelyn had a very nice sandalwood cologne, but now it's just soaps and balms, so I switched to George Trumper. There are a few Crabtree and Evelyn shops in Manila such as Greenbelt 1 - there was one in Glorietta too but no longer. There's also a scent shop / perfumer near the corner Paseo de Roxas and Buendia near the immigration office. Rather than douse myself I carry a small vial of essential oil and reapply it as needed. Oils don't evaporate as quickly as cologne so just a dab here and there. You want to get the essential oils because those are natural. One of my fubus started her own scent business as a side job but later she relocated to Singapore. She mixed some lovely scents.
    Perfume versus Eau de Toilet versus Cologne. Correct. If you are looking for essential oils, the Internet prices are much better if you can get to a place with cheaper or free shipping. A big bottle lasts a long time when used in a diffuser or vaporizer. I am not sure the differences but the ones I get appears to work at fraction of the retail store prices.

    FWIW, still working of getting cheap massage oils through one of my massage places. Oil is not bad at US10 for like 20 FL oz. Just add essential oil to make it an expensive oil or takes one back to another place and time.

    Good post of your Crime Scene Sanitizing advice! ;-D

  2. #11150
    Quote Originally Posted by Boarer  [View Original Post]
    LOL. I think you are pulling my leg now!! I fortunately have several friends / colleagues who douse themselves with expensive perfume so it stays on you the whole day after a greeting. The floral scents are harder to explain if a lady friend does not use scented products. Regardless of the source, suspicions can be a real mood killer.
    Not at all. Crabtree and Evelyn had a very nice sandalwood cologne, but now it's just soaps and balms, so I switched to George Trumper. There are a few Crabtree and Evelyn shops in Manila such as Greenbelt 1 - there was one in Glorietta too but no longer. There's also a scent shop / perfumer near the corner Paseo de Roxas and Buendia near the immigration office. Rather than douse myself I carry a small vial of essential oil and reapply it as needed. Oils don't evaporate as quickly as cologne so just a dab here and there. You want to get the essential oils because those are natural. One of my fubus started her own scent business as a side job but later she relocated to Singapore. She mixed some lovely scents.

  3. #11149
    Quote Originally Posted by Hutsori  [View Original Post]
    You're right. I forgot to mention that. I spray sandalwood scent
    LOL. I think you are pulling my leg now!! I fortunately have several friends / colleagues who douse themselves with expensive perfume so it stays on you the whole day after a greeting. The floral scents are harder to explain if a lady friend does not use scented products. Regardless of the source, suspicions can be a real mood killer.

  4. #11148
    Quote Originally Posted by Hutsori  [View Original Post]
    You're right. I forgot to mention that. I spray sandalwood scent on my clothes and the pillows; it conceals the floral and citrus scents women wear. You want something with a good amount of essential oils because that doesn't evaporate quickly or just use essential oils themselves. I also use incense sticks for my condo.
    Mr Hutsori, you are truly the master of evidence removals. I salute you! I guess I'm too lazy. For any girl that reaches that level of importance, I'd probably rent a nearby condo for her alone, as well as a refuge from the main pleasure palace.

  5. #11147
    Quote Originally Posted by Boarer  [View Original Post]
    There is one that you missed. Some of the pinay ladies like perfumed products. It will permeate everything. Smoke can be explained. But perfume to scented baby powder is harder. It will stay on clothing for days.
    You're right. I forgot to mention that. I spray sandalwood scent on my clothes and the pillows; it conceals the floral and citrus scents women wear. You want something with a good amount of essential oils because that doesn't evaporate quickly or just use essential oils themselves. I also use incense sticks for my condo.

  6. #11146
    Quote Originally Posted by Hutsori  [View Original Post]
    I actually did so a long time ago, but they were crap at it. Poor attention to detail. Once you have your routine down it goes by quickly.
    There is one that you missed. Some of the pinay ladies like perfumed products. It will permeate everything. Smoke can be explained. But perfume to scented baby powder is harder. It will stay on clothing for days.

  7. #11145

    Forensic approach. Kudos Hutsori.

    Its been educational to read and to some extent (not in full) I do some evidence removals myself but even so it bellied up not so long ago. I admit I don't change bed covers between sessions (only if some blood). Well girl arrives and we start humping on the bed. Then she screams in pain. Then I found the previous girls ear nob inside the bed covers (the opening was the wrong way so in some mysterious ways must have fallen inside. Because I swiped and searched for hairs / items in bed between the two sessions. I had to invent some excuse as usual because the girl was sure I did other girls before she. I refused and blamed housekeeping staff (one of them must have lost it). I just stood by my explanation so long and hard so at the end we could go on banging. If she believed it or not. My bet would be "not", hehe.

    Learning process: wrap bed covers inside out to see if something falls out.

  8. #11144
    Quote Originally Posted by Hutsori  [View Original Post]
    I actually did so a long time ago, but they were crap at it. Poor attention to detail. Once you have your routine down it goes by quickly.
    I concur, you can generally do a pretty thorough sweep inside 10 minutes and it really is worth the effort to save the headache you'll get if something untoward is discovered. Most of the girls who venture into my condo are non-p4 p and an incident like this would probably mean the end of that session and of that girl.

    Just to add to the horror stories, I had a girl put a used condom wrapper under the duvet (bearing in mind we'd been above the duvet the whole time and it was still tucked in). Thankfully I managed to hide it with my hand before any damage was done.

  9. #11143
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Geez Huts, you should hire a maid to do all of this for you. One you don't shag obviously.
    I actually did so a long time ago, but they were crap at it. Poor attention to detail. Once you have your routine down it goes by quickly.

  10. #11142
    Quote Originally Posted by Hutsori  [View Original Post]
    Sanitising is a subject near and dear to me. This is the dial-it-to-11 guide when you have dating-site girls visiting and many of them are repeats. You may dial it back for bar girls and other one-time visitors. - SNIP -
    Wow!!

    OK, I might have to copy this into the notes area on my phone. But then of course I would need advice on how to keep a secret set of notes! LOL. What an amazing routine, lots of great advice here, thanks!

  11. #11141
    Quote Originally Posted by Hutsori  [View Original Post]
    Sanitising is a subject near and dear to me. This is the dial-it-to-11 guide when you have dating-site girls visiting and many of them are repeats. You may dial it back for bar girls and other one-time visitors.

    CR

    Towels: make up and lipstick are smeared on them.
    Soap and bottles: stray hair stuck on it.
    Drain: hair always collects there.
    Shower curtain: step in the shower and draw the curtain. Hose it down.
    Bin: always keep a plastic bin liner / bag in it. Toss the entire bag, not just the contents. Look inside the bin because sometimes items are 'placed' in it under the liner.
    Hairbrushes: always examine and remove all hair.
    Mirror: examine for handprints and makeup.
    Basin, toilet, and tub: wash.

    Sit on toilet and close the door. Examine the room from the girl's viewpoint.

    If you have a small rug in the CR shake it out in the tub.

    Bedroom

    Linen: keep a change of pillow cases and sheets available. After the girl leaves swap. If this is impossible pull all sheets and shake. This will shake loose stray earrings, hair, dentures (hat tip Westie), etc. Remake bed. Examine for stains and hair. Use a stain stick for spot cleaning.

    Floor: sweep. Make sure to look beside and under bed for condom wrappers, Kentucky jelly tubes, toys, ties, ribbons, whatever.

    Mirror and vanity: examine for handprints and makeup, especially powered foundation. If the vanity has a chair they're will be foundation on it too.

    Kitchen and living room
    Take all glasses, silverware, and plates and wash immediately. After drying place back in cupboard and drawers. Two glasses sitting in the drying rack is a sign you had a guest. Toss the kitchen rubbish.

    Check windows for handprints. Hat tip Skogis for this tip.

    "But I have regular-visitor girls over who leave personal hygiene items like shampoo, toothbrushes, and even some clothes and a pair of slippers at my place. I have another girl coming over this afternoon, and my regular will return at night."

    Your mobile is your friend. Photo everything first after the regular leaves. Put her items into a bag and stow away. Replace the bin liner but do not toss. Save some of her hairs you found on the floor and on the bed. Hide away all these items. After your afternoon guest leaves clean up. Then, grab those bags you stashed earlier and replace the items where they were. Put her slippers back beside the door. Hang her items in the closet. Put her toothbrush back. Replace the sheets back to what she saw in the morning. Put the bin liner with her refuse back into the bin. Spread some of her hairs back on the floor and on the pillow case - they don't need to be exactly where they were. Change the TV channel back to one she knows you watch; if you're not an ABS-CBN viewer she ought not see that when she turns it on. Eject DVD from player.

    Repeat girls who know you will look for patterns and discrepancies. If you're always untidy and then they see tidiness, they'll suspect. It's safest to be consistently tidy because you'll develop a routine and it keeps the cockroaches away.

    And have some explanations ready. "Why is this tube of lube here?" I was jerking off.

    Pro tip: double up on items. For example, if she knows you have a full tube of lube and three condoms, and 10 hours later you have half a tube of lube and 1 condom, you have some 'splainin to do. If you have spares stored away you avoid awkward questions.

    Lastly, on your computer create a second clean user account that doesn't have admin rights. Before she comes over log off your account w / your real info such as email, documents, dating sites, etc and logon to the clean profile for viewing youtube videos and films with her. She'll snoop when you step away, and if you're constantly locking your computer to prevent this when you do so she'll suspect you're hiding something.
    Reminds me of the Bond movie where he sticks a hair on a door frame. Unfortunately, even if they know the game, play the game, and are in the game, they don't want it flashed in front of their faces and their noses rubbed in it. I commend you on your CSI level of caution. Much better than an eruption. LOL ;-D.

  12. #11140
    Quote Originally Posted by Hutsori  [View Original Post]
    Sanitising is a subject near and dear to me. This is the dial-it-to-11 guide when you have dating-site girls visiting and many of them are repeats. You may dial it back for bar girls and other one-time visitors.
    SNIP SNIP
    Geez Huts, you should hire a maid to do all of this for you. One you don't shag obviously.

  13. #11139
    Quote Originally Posted by BaddHabbit  [View Original Post]
    A quick question for the group.

    I see in quite a few reports people talk about the need to cleanup in between visits by different girls, and how important that is. Naturally, it is a 'gentlemanly' thing to do (such as it is in the mongering game), and you don't want to throw the last girl in the face of the new one, but.

    Surely 99% + of the girls know exactly why they are there, and that if they are there on such a basis, that you are almost certainly in the game with many other girls, and therefore actually wouldn't really care that another girl had been there? I get that it is nice to not be so blatant about it, and I would always do the same, but does it actually matter?
    Sanitising is a subject near and dear to me. This is the dial-it-to-11 guide when you have dating-site girls visiting and many of them are repeats. You may dial it back for bar girls and other one-time visitors.

    CR

    Towels: make up and lipstick are smeared on them.
    Soap and bottles: stray hair stuck on it.
    Drain: hair always collects there.
    Shower curtain: step in the shower and draw the curtain. Hose it down.
    Bin: always keep a plastic bin liner / bag in it. Toss the entire bag, not just the contents. Look inside the bin because sometimes items are 'placed' in it under the liner.
    Hairbrushes: always examine and remove all hair.
    Mirror: examine for handprints and makeup.
    Basin, toilet, and tub: wash.

    Sit on toilet and close the door. Examine the room from the girl's viewpoint.

    If you have a small rug in the CR shake it out in the tub.

    Bedroom

    Linen: keep a change of pillow cases and sheets available. After the girl leaves swap. If this is impossible pull all sheets and shake. This will shake loose stray earrings, hair, dentures (hat tip Westie), etc. Remake bed. Examine for stains and hair. Use a stain stick for spot cleaning.

    Floor: sweep. Make sure to look beside and under bed for condom wrappers, Kentucky jelly tubes, toys, ties, ribbons, whatever.

    Mirror and vanity: examine for handprints and makeup, especially powered foundation. If the vanity has a chair they're will be foundation on it too.

    Kitchen and living room
    Take all glasses, silverware, and plates and wash immediately. After drying place back in cupboard and drawers. Two glasses sitting in the drying rack is a sign you had a guest. Toss the kitchen rubbish.

    Check windows for handprints. Hat tip Skogis for this tip.

    "But I have regular-visitor girls over who leave personal hygiene items like shampoo, toothbrushes, and even some clothes and a pair of slippers at my place. I have another girl coming over this afternoon, and my regular will return at night."

    Your mobile is your friend. Photo everything first after the regular leaves. Put her items into a bag and stow away. Replace the bin liner but do not toss. Save some of her hairs you found on the floor and on the bed. Hide away all these items. After your afternoon guest leaves clean up. Then, grab those bags you stashed earlier and replace the items where they were. Put her slippers back beside the door. Hang her items in the closet. Put her toothbrush back. Replace the sheets back to what she saw in the morning. Put the bin liner with her refuse back into the bin. Spread some of her hairs back on the floor and on the pillow case - they don't need to be exactly where they were. Change the TV channel back to one she knows you watch; if you're not an ABS-CBN viewer she ought not see that when she turns it on. Eject DVD from player.

    Repeat girls who know you will look for patterns and discrepancies. If you're always untidy and then they see tidiness, they'll suspect. It's safest to be consistently tidy because you'll develop a routine and it keeps the cockroaches away.

    And have some explanations ready. "Why is this tube of lube here?" I was jerking off.

    Pro tip: double up on items. For example, if she knows you have a full tube of lube and three condoms, and 10 hours later you have half a tube of lube and 1 condom, you have some 'splainin to do. If you have spares stored away you avoid awkward questions.

    Lastly, on your computer create a second clean user account that doesn't have admin rights. Before she comes over log off your account w / your real info such as email, documents, dating sites, etc and logon to the clean profile for viewing youtube videos and films with her. She'll snoop when you step away, and if you're constantly locking your computer to prevent this when you do so she'll suspect you're hiding something.

  14. #11138
    Quote Originally Posted by FreebieFan  [View Original Post]
    No idea why girls leave panties under the bed, behind the bed, in hard to find places but I guess its a marking of territory the way dogs ,,,, on lamp posts?
    Exactly that FF, they see it as sign off love as shows you there are jealous which to many pinays equals love but we all know that it does not and many times I have pointed this out and also walked away.

    Also they want you exclusively which of course we like also LOL (well until the next threesome).

  15. #11137
    Quote Originally Posted by WickedRoger  [View Original Post]
    Firstly I call the hotel and ask it to clean the room again (small tip maybe required but worth it).

    If you are in an airbnb place etc, I would use FF methods (I have before) but double check as some ladies deliberately leave things behind. Example one friend found a g string under the pillow, another one found it under the bed. Some are devious (and jealous as that to them equals love).

    I have said "I had a massage before you came so must have been her when she went to the CR / toilet" - that seems to work.

    Another ofl friend handled it by buying new crockery / glassware and refurbishing some of the bathroom his aldy wrecked / smashed when she found tell tale evidence. And a text message from me to him suggesting we meet at my place for some reason she found me a tad "babaero" and did not trust me imagine that!
    Ha. I used exactly thre " I had a massage " line also when a few hairs were found on the pillow that somehow I had missed.

    What is interesting here is the extent of panty loss these ladies suffer. Not one, but two very small tbacks were found by someone who shouldn't have found them, which caused many many many problems.

    No idea why girls leave panties under the bed, behind the bed, in hard to find places but I guess its a marking of territory the way dogs [CodeWord140] on lamp posts?

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