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  1. #10948
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    Have heard of people saying things like "so you were born in 199? And then seeing reaction? Or actually asking birthdate or asking to name brother and sisters in family in order and checking this way.

    I have even heard of people suggesting saying " Gee I wish you were 17" and then seeing reaction. Or pointing out that a certain anatomical part should be a certain length and trying to quiz / confuse the girl.

    Some say stick to the bars rather than freelancers but this carries an additional cost and is not always guaranteed.

    Would be interested to hear any Senior contributors and the methods they use.

    Regards.
    These question could be indicators but would not serve as any proof. Its damn hard in a 3 world country like phils, where everything from gvmnt and down are crooked, to be sure of anything. Best bet is gutfeeling and a critical one I might add. I have taken it up a notch, so only girls with SSS ID (or simular, biomethrical ones) or passports are given a green light from me. This is when I am in doubt. This will ofcourse limit the pool from which you can pick from as not many girls (percentagewice) in phils do have certified IDs in the first place. Even less so if you try bed some from the younger but legal brackets. But still there are enough, at least students in UNIs and simular who are borned in / grew up in furnitured homes in and around Makati, you can pick from who doesn't say now to some fun times. Just take a bit more time to hunt them down. But if you get the ball spinning in one UNI it will be passed on to friends / classmates and so on. This if you behave and treat them nice that is.

    Not so long time ago I was almost taken for an unpleasent ride. This is what went down; Girl, looked quite youngish but with a great set of boobies, legs and an ass piece to die for, agreed to meet me in public (Glorietta). I saw in her pics and through c2 c activity she looked young so my doubts were passed on to her quickly. She calmed me down and told me she was 19. I asked her to bring certified ID and she did bring her passport. She went on my list of repeatgirls so I met her a few times over. In our 5th encounter she starts the normal pinay way to hint towards she wanted to find another subject to study. This would cost 37 k php per semester. I talked it off but she didn't want to let it go and I soon realised (surprise surprise, hehe) she wanted me to pay her tutionfee of mentioned ammount. I told her no way. Then she became moody and started to claim she was only 17 yo and she would go to the pulis and claim I did her even if she was a minor. She knew my hotel ofcourse but by far did she know my real name. If pulis involved they could ofcourse obtain my real details if this was something they would react upon. What the girl didn't know was that I took picture of her passport (personal detail page) the first time we met when she hit the loo. I was lucky I did otherwice this could have been a nasty sequence. When I showed her the pic she went all "ohhh fuck"(damn it).

    Most likely just airy threats but who knows who she could be connected to. I am no sucker so I know this much as my words against her, dealing with authority, would be an all in win for her. I "threw" her out, waited a few hours and changed hotel just in case. If possible do take a pic of any ID shown to you it can save the day (even at a later stage). Sex was nice though so sad to let her go. Next.

  2. #10947
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    Have heard of people saying things like "so you were born in 199? And then seeing reaction? Or actually asking birthdate or asking to name brother and sisters in family in order and checking this way.

    I have even heard of people suggesting saying " Gee I wish you were 17" and then seeing reaction. Or pointing out that a certain anatomical part should be a certain length and trying to quiz / confuse the girl.

    Some say stick to the bars rather than freelancers but this carries an additional cost and is not always guaranteed.

    Would be interested to hear any Senior contributors and the methods they use.

    Regards.
    In my opinion only a fool would think there is a fool proof way in any line of questioning. First the questionee would have to totally understand the questions. Second people fudge on the truth.

    My experiences are bars in AC which girls do have to get permits. Not fool proof but maybe a small level of assurances. FL and non licensed bar girls have a higher risk factor.

  3. #10946

    So any foolproof ways of telling age?

    Quote Originally Posted by WickedRoger  [View Original Post]
    Postal IDs are easily faked and have the age on it. A few shops in Manila (Greenhills) are known to do this.
    Have heard of people saying things like "so you were born in 199? And then seeing reaction? Or actually asking birthdate or asking to name brother and sisters in family in order and checking this way.

    I have even heard of people suggesting saying " Gee I wish you were 17" and then seeing reaction. Or pointing out that a certain anatomical part should be a certain length and trying to quiz / confuse the girl.

    Some say stick to the bars rather than freelancers but this carries an additional cost and is not always guaranteed.

    Would be interested to hear any Senior contributors and the methods they use.

    Regards.

  4. #10945
    Quote Originally Posted by ChochaMonger  [View Original Post]
    Based on data from the World Health Organization, the prevalence of overweight in the Philippines as of 2014 was close to 20 percent of the population and that of obesity by about 5 percent.
    The latest data in the US indicates over 71% overweight and 36% Obese. I know things have changed a lot in the Philippines (and Thailand!) over the last decade, but it is still worth it for me to fly half way around the world to escape a nation of fatties.

  5. #10944

    Fat profits in the Philippines

    Quote Originally Posted by BrainDrain  [View Original Post]
    The other thing to notice is the amount of capital that was invested to return bugger all. So often we can sit in these places and see no one else. The money has been spent on the building, it cannot be recovered, it cannot leave the country. The business will survive because of the low cost of OJT labor. The country is also filled with poorly maintained resorts.
    There is gold in them there hills if you know where to look. The key is getting into a niche market that is not glamorous but provides steady returns. Tourism oriented industries which cater to foreigners are very risky and vulnerable to both internal sociopolitical developments and external economic shocks. Too many foreigners are looking for fun and fortune in dodgy business endeavors such as monger bars, rub-and-tug shops, cyber-sex dens, and a variety of other harebrained schemes.

    Any business that involves hiring locals is risky and the risks increase with the number of locals employed. More than a few foreign businessmen have met their end at the hands of disgruntled local employees or ex-employees. Local businessmen use contracted labor both to avoid paying benefits and to avoid having to sack employees who then seek revenge by blowing the business owner's brains out. A six-month contract keeps things much more pleasant as all employees know that they must leave at the end of 6 months upon being hired. Many of them try to leave on good terms in the hopes that they can cycle through the following year after spending 6 months at another job or freelancing.

    A growing business opportunity exists in retailing clothing for plus-sized pinays. The girls are getting bigger and bigger every year, while most of the clothes on sale at conventional retail outlets and ukay-ukay stores remain largely aimed at the spinner and average size categories.

    Based on data from the World Health Organization, the prevalence of overweight in the Philippines as of 2014 was close to 20 percent of the population and that of obesity by about 5 percent.

    "In a study done in the Philippines, increasing urbanization with association to increasing Westernized food habits such as high fat diets, processed foods and consumption of refined carbohydrates; trade liberalization making available a wide variety of processed and fast foods; increased frequency of eating away from home; influence of mass media and sedentary lifestyles have been implicated in the rise of overweight and obesity," the report said.

  6. #10943
    Quote Originally Posted by VernierCaliper  [View Original Post]
    Yeah and regarding validating age, if they can not show a proper ID aka SSS-, Voters ID and / or passport, if you are in doubt, don't be and let her sail away. Student and employer IDs are easy faked (can even be bought for a couple of 100's php). Don't go that route. I know I am probably paranoid but for the love of whoever I don't want to end in a Phil slammer.
    Postal IDs are easily faked and have the age on it. A few shops in Manila (Greenhills) are known to do this.

  7. #10942
    Quote Originally Posted by MsAccount  [View Original Post]
    Many will have a university ID or employer ID but a lot of those don't have birth date on it. Just makes the whole goal of validating age more difficult. The more time I spend here the more I do feel sorry for people here as the system is against them.
    Yeah and regarding validating age, if they can not show a proper ID aka SSS-, Voters ID and / or passport, if you are in doubt, don't be and let her sail away. Student and employer IDs are easy faked (can even be bought for a couple of 100's php). Don't go that route. I know I am probably paranoid but for the love of whoever I don't want to end in a Phil slammer.

  8. #10941

    Contract Workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    Probably due to "contractulaztion"! The 4 year degreed employees are on 6 month contracts so employers don't have to pay them benefits. So the staff person is either coming or going at any given time.
    The good part about this for regular visitors is that if you get a hottie's number from a worker at any mall or fast food place, she'll probably be unemployed in a few months and more "openminded" about meeting. Some hustle and stay almost constantly employed, but many don't.

  9. #10940

    Visa Extension

    I am in Cebu and I bought a motorcycle to travel around. I wanted to extend my visa from 30 days and I went to Cebu BI in J Mall in Mandaue. Very friendly stay issued me a 29 days extension and they suggested me to get a 6 months visa also to prevent problems in a case of an accident. But they have a rule one transaction per day. So, next day I went and they issued me a 6 month extension which now good until end of November.

    Immigration office is very friendly and very little waiting period. It was a good service.

  10. #10939
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    Remember, this is a country that "temporarily" ran out of photo, laminated driver's licenses about thee or four years ago, and still can't produce them; "temporarily" ran out of license plates about 5 years ago and still can't produce them; and "temporarily" ran out of automobile renewal stickers five years ago and can't replace them, though they still charge full price for all three. Given the aforementioned it should come as no surprise that the process for the issuance of any official document here is a lengthy, convoluted mess.

    GE.
    I managed to get my rego plates for my car in about 8 months and even the dealer was shocked.

    My cuties get their DL depending on where they are, one has been waiting 18 months and is a cause of huge frustration, Cebu is a mess based on what I hear but then as GE careful payments can help if receptive.

  11. #10938
    Quote Originally Posted by Vitaplex  [View Original Post]
    Then she had to apply again, pay and wait for another 3 months. I believe the story to be true, he was furious (her dad) so how long can people keep up with the mistreatment of its own people. Well I guess the elite get needed document fast without any hazzles. Its laughable for an outsider but I feel sorry for people stucked there.
    Thanks for all the feedback. In essence the answer is that the ID system in the Philippines is in chaos and I should not be surprised that most girls don't have formal ID. Many will have a university ID or employer ID but a lot of those don't have birth date on it. Just makes the whole goal of validating age more difficult. The more time I spend here the more I do feel sorry for people here as the system is against them.

  12. #10937
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam14  [View Original Post]
    GE, I applied for a duplicate DL and waited a year. Finally I told them I'm leaving the country and I really need it please. So with my magic ball pen I scratched out a note on a piece of paper and they printed my new licence right there. (100p tip). God works in mysterious ways.
    You wasted 100 p Sam.

    It's not really magic.

    All of us have been waiting for at least a year (me 14 months), but since mid-January you just need to rock up to the License agency (wherever LTO or an agency in a mall), show your "receipt" that verifies you've been waiting and then after around 30 minutes they will print your licence for you.

    They have spare cards now; you just have to present yourself to collect it. You also need to be careful offering cash for services too. Be sure the agent you deal with is receptive. There are CCTVs everywhere now and some employees are very scared to get caught accepting bribes.

  13. #10936
    GE comments etc hold truth and I was this very morning talking about how easy it was to get IDs and official documents for whatever purpose they may serve back in my real world (most is fixed with your social security number, password, electronical keydevice and a computer). My pinoy co worker slammed his hand at the table and told us to listen (we did); he told about his daughter trying to get herself a SSS ID. She was told it would take 3 months. When 3 months were up she called for her missing ID and got this "sorry we can not find you in our system"crap. She had paid some money upfront ofcourse. She was told the receit was no longer valid. Then she had to apply again, pay and wait for another 3 months. I believe the story to be true, he was furious (her dad) so how long can people keep up with the mistreatment of its own people. Well I guess the elite get needed document fast without any hazzles. Its laughable for an outsider but I feel sorry for people stucked there.

  14. #10935

    Out Of Stock

    GE, I applied for a duplicate DL and waited a year. Finally I told them I'm leaving the country and I really need it please. So with my magic ball pen I scratched out a note on a piece of paper and they printed my new licence right there. (100p tip). God works in mysterious ways.

  15. #10934
    Quote Originally Posted by Vitaplex  [View Original Post]
    What most pinays would have as a minimum is a postal ID (that's semi official, these days they talk about distributing an electronical one with biometrics as well), then you have various sorts of student visas, voters ID, drivers license SSS ID, NBI ID, PNP ID, etc etc. To get one ID you need to have this or that ID plus supporting documents (you have to read for each and one of them bcs its never the same for each ID). To get a passport you also need certain IDs and supporting documents. It is total chaos for me as an outsider so to stay sane I don't dive into this more.
    Remember, this is a country that "temporarily" ran out of photo, laminated driver's licenses about thee or four years ago, and still can't produce them; "temporarily" ran out of license plates about 5 years ago and still can't produce them; and "temporarily" ran out of automobile renewal stickers five years ago and can't replace them, though they still charge full price for all three. Given the aforementioned it should come as no surprise that the process for the issuance of any official document here is a lengthy, convoluted mess.

    GE.

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