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  1. #5638
    I refuse to take out of any bar along P. Burgos. For fun, I went into Moulin Rouge for a beer. Happy hour, so not getting super gouged on pricing. 3 girls siddle up and I suck on 1's nipples, play with the nipples of the other girl. Love just randomly grabbing a girl's boobs. Brings out the teenager in me! (Grab 'them by the p* - go Trump!) Bar is pretty empty at 4 pm. They are rubbing my see* and it is getting hard, nothing I can do about that. I ask about pricing and they start explaining the ultra-complicated pricing structure of drinks, service, massage, boom-boom. I get how it works, I just wanted to hear it again out of the horses mouth. I laugh my ass off and explain how ridiculous the prices are. They say whyyyyyyyy? I say because I can go anywhere in the Phils and get what you will give me (or even better) for free or max 1500. Their reason for the expensive pricing at the bar? (Honestly, they told me this, I did not ask them why). "It is because we have so many hospital bills, we have to go to hospital every 2 weeks for many check up" Hahaha! Have you ever heard anything so stupid?! Price here to see a doctor at a clinic is 400 php, plus any procedures, dirt cheap.

    No cute "massage" girl on the street (P. Burgos) has yet to turn down my offer / counteroffer of 1500ST.

    Let the bar girls do their thing, but it is not for me.

  2. #5637
    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyPete  [View Original Post]
    I stopped going to Bangkok about 5 years ago, partially because of bars raising prices when demand falls. When did they stop doing this? And because bar girls were agreeing to be bar fined, but demanding that I must take them to a club, and no sex. "Here, just take my wallet, good night".
    What do you expect? It is Bangkok. Where foreigners go to date hookers and fuck honest women. They are the ones to blame. One chick that lives in BKK but comes to see me in Pattaya sometimes, said that Americans and Emirates have been known to give her and her friends 3000-5000 baht just to go eat dinner with them. Meanwhile I only give her 1000 baht to stay overnight with me.

  3. #5636
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalake  [View Original Post]
    They have slow periods so they raise their prices to make up for it, rather than lower their prices like Bangkok. Then the cycle gets worse and worse, they keep jacking up prices because business is bad. God bless them, I wish they would listen.
    I stopped going to Bangkok about 5 years ago, partially because of bars raising prices when demand falls. When did they stop doing this? Mostly I stopped going when there was widespread acceptance of Coyote Girl. Higher priced GoGo girls that mostly weren't available for ST. And because bar girls were agreeing to be bar fined, but demanding that I must take them to a club, and no sex. "Here, just take my wallet, good night". I have been toying with the idea of a return visit, though. The Pinays that I've been seeing on DIA and FC are not attractive anymore. Most of the interest I get are from 40-50 year olds, blech!. Now I know how a college girl feels when I contact them.

    Nice report, Sirvladi. But I think the FC girl had planned to use you as an ATM to fund her friend's party. Sad to say, but "been there, done that". Count me among those who believe FC and DIA are just a waste of time.

  4. #5635
    Quote Originally Posted by SpyGlass  [View Original Post]
    This is my first post so be nice to me. I came for 3 day holiday and to see if Manila is the place to semi retire in 6 months or so. It is either Bangkok or Manila. I've been to both places over the years, but many more Bangkok than Manila. I will be few years over 50 BTW. Plane landed around 10 pm and by the time I unpacked it was midnight. Stayed at the Sommerset Millenium in Makati which was nice enough. Grabbed a taxi and went to P. Burgos and to Bottoms. There were few girls that looked decent and I motioned one and bought her a drink. She was maybe 7 and said she was shy because she just started working there. I was tired so I asked about barfine. Mamasan said it is 3500 but she will take 3000. I asked the girl how much to you and she said 3000 for short time. But then she said short time is till 3 am. I asked her what about long time and she quoted 5000 and till 4 am. Wtf. It was 2 am by then. I just paid my bill and came back to hotel and slept alone. I did not go into any other bars in PBurgos this time but it just lacks the energy of other great bar areas like Soy Cowboy, walking streets in Pattaya and even Angeles.
    I've been going to Burgos for 20 years. I'VE known many mamasan and papasan, and still see them when I visit. The situation is getting worse in Burgos. 20 years ago, it was a lot more lively and there were tons of girls. Prices were low and that was when the exchange rate was 50p / to the dollar, I keep telling the mamasans there that I can spend 2 weeks in Thailand for the 1 week I stay in Makati. And they just don't get it. They tell me that business is slow, so they have go gouge all the tourists for big money. I love the filipinos, but they are the worst business people. They have slow periods so they raise their prices to make up for it, rather than lower their prices like Bangkok. Then the cycle gets worse and worse, they keep jacking up prices because business is bad. God bless them, I wish they would listen.

    I hope I didn't break any rules by posting a personal opinion on this thread. I'm a long time poster here, so I hope its ok.

    Take care.

  5. #5634
    The sad truth is that it is best to avoid getting surrounded, even by children. You feel like a real cad but you have to be firm and down right rude to keep the urchins away. Not all will rob you blind, but it is a common tactic for them to surround you and go through your bags and pockets. If only one or two, keep them in front of you.

    The sad truth is that some of the street kids around the world have been through everything and not much scares them. So be firm. They might call your bluff.

    Quote Originally Posted by MuaTur  [View Original Post]
    Be aware the pick pocketers on the Makati streets. Mostly little boys; he / she may wear reversed shirt and his / her hands may not be visible. He / she will walk attached to your body, begging in one hand and by other invisible hand will try to pick your pocket. Some time he / she have tiny group of followers surrounding or behind you just to pass out your wallet behind hand.

    These are such young one or group even you caught him / them red hand, your kindness may not make any action against him / them. That I did. Just hanged his collar and let him on the street).
    .

  6. #5633

    Chocha, what do we newbies do?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChochaMonger  [View Original Post]
    Spy Glass,

    That Manila Courtesan girl screwed you! When you saw that she was not what you were expecting, you should have sent her away. The agency is going to continue ripping off newbies as long as they are willing to pay 7,000 pesos for less than 15 minutes of covered unenthusiastic sex with a potbellied average looking single-mommy. Most likely, she was tired from pulling multiple short time fuck sessions all over Manila during the day. She was not fresh by the time she got to you at 8 PM that night, as the other mongers wore her out. She probably did not want you smelling cock on her breath from previous clients, so she avoided kissing you.

    In the future, avoid escort agencies in Manila. The girls you are paying 7,000 pesos and up for are sourced from casas where locals fuck them onsite for about 500 pesos. When you call the agency to book a girl, they call the pimp at the casa and place the order. You are paying a huge mark up to the middleman, plus the foreign tourist tax. You could have gone to the casas yourself and picked out a girl who was not so fatigued and tore up for short time at no more than 1,500 pesos firm offer takeout. Casas follow the Filipino business model, several are located next to each other giving the customer the advantage in bargaining.

    If you are looking for a place to semi-retire with high quality PSE, Thailand is more likely to deliver that with a better standard of living. The Philippines offers mostly ugly to average looking girls with the occasional stunner that requires a bit more work than plug and play. Here prices do not usually reflect quality. You may pay high prices for low quality simply because you are a foreigner. Unfortunately, Manila is largely a mega-slum and many of the residents have the morals of alley cats.
    Where are the casas all lined up, in Manila / Makati area? I was looking forward to Manila Courtesan, also they advertise GFE. So long as your hygiene is good, so I would expect uncovered.

    I arrive Saturday night and I don't want to waste money on tired unfresh covered sessions. BTW, I am full Filipino born in the US, but haven't really mongered in the Philippines. My language skills are minimal and give me away as an American.

    Anyone else's input would be appreciated.

  7. #5632

    Recommendations on good night out on Thursday.

    Hello,

    Just wondering what's the best place to go out have a good time pick up some talent on a Thursday.

    Valkyrie.

    Royal.

    Other clubs?

    Thanks.

    SV.

  8. #5631

    Makati field trip 2/17-2/24 day 1.

    Hello,

    Long time lurker on this forum decided to contribute my two cents worth.

    Background information I am in my late 30's, American / Russian.

    This is my fifth or sixth time in the Philippines, second in Manila. Before I stayed in Cebu.

    Arrived in NAIA around 7 pm on Saturday. After a very long flight from New York via Vancouver and Hong Kong on Cathay Pacific. The airline is really nice and the price is good but the flights / layovers were a little too much especially waiting for 9 hours in Hong Kong. There were two flights earlier that were completely booked so I couldn't get on them. I would recommend flying PAL out of New York also with a stopover in Vancouver for an hour and then direct to Manila landing in Manila at a great time of 10 am.

    Went through security fairly quickly and got into a taxi line which did not move at all. I was in a bit of a rush because I needed to meet my airbnb hosts by 8 pm so they could give me the keys. Also, I didn't have a local phone but in NAIA there is free WiFi for a limited time so you can stay in touch via Viber / Whatsapp or FB messenger. Ended up getting the white taxi cars to Rockwell for 800 php. At first the guy showed me a price of around 3 k. I laughed and walked away and he lowered it to 1.5 k. I kept walking and finally another guy offered 800 php. So don't be afraid to bargain.

    Arrived in Rockwell which is an upper scale gated community with a medium sized mall in the center. Went into the mall and to the globe store to get pocket WiFi. I highly recommend this over buying a cheap phone. Unlimited 7 days WiFi was around 1 k. I was able to keep in touch with everyone via Viber / whatsapp or fb messenger. In malls and casinos and my condo there was wifi so I didn't need to use it but outside or in cars it comes in handy.

    Took a little bit of time to find the lobby of Joya towers south and there I was greeted by my airbnb hosts that took me up to the room. The room is small, good for one person and a a guest. Has a nice balcony. Very small bathroom. Barely any space to put toiletries. But for me it was fine. I was especially looking forward to swimming in the pool but here I was informed that despite the airbnb posting that the place comes with, "exclusive use of the pool", it is actually not included in the price and costs an additional 1 k per day per person. I told the hosts that I was disappointed that this wasn't communicated clearly in the posting and suggested that they adjust my rate. This got the woman very upset and she said in this case she is refunding me everything I paid and I need to leave immediately. She then told her husband to call security to throw me out of the unit. I was shocked at this turn of events and eventually after a lot of smoothing things over we agreed that I could stay. She did say that the pool and fitness room is managed by a different company and they recently started not allowing non condo owners to use the pool. She also said that soon they won't allow airbnb in these condos all together.

    Not the way I wanted to start my vacation, so I was happy when they left and I could take a shower and relax. I agreed to meed one of my contacts from FC and in about an hour I came downstairs to a really nice tapas / wine bar called Rambla. Highly recommended, good small portion food and excellent wines. Good atmosphere inside and outside. Soon the girl (we will call her M) showed up and we had a glass of wine. She then said that one of her friends has a birthday today and they are going to Royal club. I said we can all go then. So, we met up with her friends and soon were walking up the staircase in Royal.

    First impressions. Dimly lit, not very big, no real dance floor. Nice size bar and couches and standing tables which cost like 5 k consumable. M was kind of quiet and her friends also not really that much better and I was kind of bored and tired. So after a few drinks I excused myself under the pretense of jet lag and went back home where I crashed.

  9. #5630

    Cowboy Grill Malibi

    I stopped in Cowboy Grill to listen to some music. Nice to sit in a non-smoking bar. Place was filled on the lower level. Mostly locals from what I could see. 2 shots of Baileys and one SML total P365. I didn't order any food but it looked like a lot of tables ordered food.

    Place was well run. I have never seen staff move so fast and organized like this place. Kudos to the management.

  10. #5629
    Quote Originally Posted by CallSignPapa  [View Original Post]
    Three easy steps to avoid being pick-pocketed:

    1) Don't take your wallet out, take cash and maybe one ATM card.

    2) Put those, and your phone in your front pockets.

    3) Don't wander down dark alleys, no matter what is being promised.
    Taken.

    It's common sense to apply standard measures when we visit abroad.

  11. #5628
    Quote Originally Posted by MuaTur  [View Original Post]
    Be aware the pick pocketers on the Makati streets.
    Three easy steps to avoid being pick-pocketed:

    1) Don't take your wallet out, take cash and maybe one ATM card.

    2) Put those, and your phone in your front pockets.

    3) Don't wander down dark alleys, no matter what is being promised.

  12. #5627
    Quote Originally Posted by Aarjun  [View Original Post]
    You don't need to reserve a table to get in, I think you pay 2 k and get coupons for 3 drinks.
    Not unless the price went up 100% since I was there last month.

  13. #5626
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirvladi  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    Long time lurker. Been to the PI a few times mainly in Cebu. Will be going to Manila for a week starting tonight.

    I want to go to Valkyrie. Anybody knows if its going to be a problem to get entry without reserving tables. What is the cost of drinks?

    Just need to know how much to exchange at the airport since I will be arriving kind of late.

    Thanks for any help. I will be writing daily reports (hopefully with good pictures). Did my preparations on FC and FB. So should be fun.
    You don't need to reserve a table to get in, I think you pay 2 k and get coupons for 3 drinks.

  14. #5625
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirvladi  [View Original Post]

    I want to go to Valkyrie. Anybody knows if its going to be a problem to get entry without reserving tables. What is the cost of drinks?
    No problems just paying on the door. 1000 pesos, but that includes two drinks. Depending on what you drink at the cash bar it's between 250 - 500 per drink.

  15. #5624
    Quote Originally Posted by ChochaMonger  [View Original Post]

    The Philippines offers mostly ugly to average looking girls with the occasional stunner that requires a bit more work than plug and play. .
    Agree 100%.

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