Unfortunately, variations of this MO is used elsewhere, and by others groups with lesser means/willingness to pay. SouthEastAsians are just a larger expat group nowadays. I would add that some of the girls are not compensated at all. Furthermore, a fair number of WGs travel around the region and share information amongst themselves.
Known several who were basically abducted and raped in various places. What is amazing is some of the stories of how the ladies try to help and save each other (when both tell similar narratives).
Indian from East Africa
I am also an Indian flying into Phil on 15th February. Plans are Manila and Angeles. We can meet and hit the bars together.
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Obviously a sweeping generalisation, but mostly true South Asians are less desired. Several reasons for this including cheapness, smell, dislike of dark skin because it's seen as 'dirty', and the surprise gangbang where a fella picks up a girl, brings her back to his place and soon after several of his friends show up for their turns. East Asians are quite welcomed.
Reputation precedes thee
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The average Filipino is 'nognog'
Manila, Philippines – Vice President Jejomar Binay has launched a new political advertisement, saying the average Filipino is dark-skinned and short or "nognog" just like him.
The ad begins with a question, "Sino ba si Nognog? (Who is Nognog?
What follows is a montage explaining that "nognog" is every Filipino who labors under the sun, who endures studying in makeshift classrooms, and who has barely enough money to eat every day.
The ad also focuses on the plight of overseas Filipino workers (OFWs), a part of the voting population that Binay, former presidential adviser on OFWs, is currently wooing during his trip to the United Arab Emirates this week. (READ: The Leader I Want: Jejomar Binay's to-fix list for 2016).
"Sino pa ba ang magtutulungan kundi tayo? (Who else will help us but ourselves? Asks a smiling Binay towards the end of the video, with a throng of his supporters in the background.
Critics of the Vice President previously used "nognog" as a derogatory term for Binay, but the United Nationalist Alliance standard-bearer has since embraced the term to paint himself as an underdog who performs.
The term "nognog" is short for "sunog" or burnt, a reference to a dark, short, with curly hair and a stubby nosed comic character created by L. S. Martinez in the 1970's. The comics story was made into a movie in 1980 with then child star Nińo Muhlach in the lead role.
The Binay ad is also consistent with the Vice President's long-standing message that what he has already done in Makati, where he was mayor for 21 years, is what other politicians are only starting to promise to the voters.
Things are currently looking bright for Binay, who topped the latest Pulse Asia survey at 33% despite a string of corruption charges and allegations of unexplained wealth.
Attitude towards Indians.
I'm an Indian settled in Denmark going to Manila for a mongering trip in February. I heard that the attitude of girls differ from a Western man and a Asians particularly Indians or dark skins. Any idea about this or any suggestions?
Sorry to hear about your experiences. There are fora such as this one in the PH. I can't mention any of them, so you're going to have to do a bit of research. They used to be denominated by color. Red, blue, white, and pink boards, if memory serves. Some acronyms are EOD, PPO, ACR, AWR. It's been a while since I last checked in, probably more than a year, so I'm not sure of the state that they're in anymore. But before, the girls start their own threads there, and within the threads, guys give FRs, so you get a notion of what to expect. Most of the girls also have FB pages, and some are members of FB groups. Look for pages in the PH where there are "walkers" because they call the appointments "walks". It comes from the Filipino colloquial for an appointment outside or generally going outside of the house, which is "lakad", which literally, means "to walk". Some call it "coffee". I believe there's a new term, but I'm not aware of what it is.
FLs in Robinson and Emita Bars
The FL scene at Robinsons is not hard to identify. First though there are real freelancers who work both inside and outside the mall. They will catch your eye or come up to you but usually just taking a table at Starbucks and watching the traffic will alert you to who is who. But if you are polite you can approach any girl who is hanging about and just say Hello, and ask her name. If she is a FL she will let you know. If she is an ordinary girl, then she prob will just walk away. She is not going to make a commotion if are polite.
The second side to the FL scene at Robinsons' is that there are Mamasans (for want of a better description) who will set you up with a girl. There are two that I know who work in the evening (start about 5 pm) and hang around on the edge of the smoking area outside the main entrance (to the right of Starbucks). You can negotiate with them if you don't like approaching girls. I did not do that but expect there would be an extra fee for the service. As always be aware of [CodeWord902] girls if you are taking FLs off the street.
In my longer report I should have added a few words on Ermita bars. The western oriented bars in Ermita are a mixed bunch. GPoint & LA Cafe obviously make money but many of the others can't. In some cases this is because the local Barangay Captain will not let them have girls in the bar whereas others located not far away do have some girls (different Barangay or different "business model") . Overall it's not rich pickings in the few Ermita bars with girls like Husseys. Of course you may get lucky on a particular night but these bars are a low percentage play in my opinion.
My recent business trip to Manila (WARNING. LOOOONG POST)
So my recent trip to Manila is over, and it is time for some reflection. Having weekend days I had hopes to come to some sort of arrangement to spend plenty of time with a girl, potentially go out clubbing, have dinners, etc.
The result is not what I hoped but more on that later. Now the good, the bad and the ugly.
Starting with the good. I got laid every single night and every single bang was good.
After touching the ground, I quickly checked into my room and took off to EDSA. Familiar hunting ground with familiar girls. My favorite girl at Pit Stop was present and found herself quickly in my room.
Service was excellent 100% GFE, we were so into it that she even forgot to put a condom on. While she was on top of me she was moving her hips round and round and slid her pussy over my dick. Half way in I made a remark ("no condom today? Which made her blush big time, her reaction was priceless. Still smiling when I think about it.
The following working day started early in the morning and it turned out to be a busy day with back-to-back meetings followed by business dinner. Essentially no time for me to arrange anything.
So I decided to continue where I had left things of the day before and grabbed my girl from EDSA again. While I was there I chatted a lot with the Mamasan to understand a bit more about their business and also evaluate the options to take a girl out for multiple days, planning ahead for the weekend.
Essentially this isn't a problem at all. If you decide right there to take a girl for multiple days, you pay x-times the bar fine and you are all set. If you take a girl and decide outside to keep her for several days, the girl can call them and you just leave the x-days bar fine with the girl, she will take it back to the bar.
A bit of an EDSA Entertainment Complex excursion now, really juts bits and pieces of information I hope you find interesting.
After talking quite a bit with girls and mamasans, this is the picture I got:
The girls are essentially recruited by the mamasans. Many come from their neighborhoods. Mamasans approach girls they know deem suitable and check whether they are interested entering the business. This is the reason why many of the girls and mamasans know each other, not only thru the bar.
My girl shared with me that several of her former elementary school mates were on stage as I was there. She was literally approached by the mamasan on the street in their neighborhood.
Apparently, Mamasans do NOT get a share of the bar fine, nor do they get a salary. They do however get their share of revenue from the drinks and they keep their 100% of their tips. This model is the reason why they are asking for tips all the time.
Business seems to be quite low, all the bars I visited there are quite empty and very unhappy about the state of business. Cotton Club was the only exception. Even if the usual Koreans or Japanese do come in, more often than not they just consume 1 drink, watch the girls and disappear to hit the neighbor bar. Most don't bar fine a girl.
Every Friday / Saturday the girls get checked for STDs. However they only do a vaginal smear, which means this is by no means a thorough screening. I am pretty sure that HIV for example cannot be identified with it. One of the girl mentioned to me that she does an HIV blood test every 6 months. A lot can happen in 6 months.
Some of the bars (e. G. Pit Stop) have the girls come in in the afternoon already. They get make-up and hair done in preparation for their stage appearance. This is mandatory for the girls. Seems Cotton Club doesn't apply this as strictly. A girl I took out from there mentioned she arrives around 7-8 pm and does only little Make-Up.
+++EDSA Special End+++.
Now back to my second night. Performance of my girl wasn't bad, but I somehow felt things are going a bit in the wrong direction. While I enjoyed knowing each other better with the weekend in mind, it seemed she tried to push my buttons to be done with the session. It is a bit hard to explain, since she didn't really do anything wrong. It was just that the passionate French kissing was a little shorter than before and she started to BBBJ me sooner than before.
The BJ itself also seemed a bit shorter and she jumped on top of me. Worst of all she developed a habit of showering and getting dressed right after the action ("I know you are tired and have to work tomorrow".
So after the second night, I decided that it wouldn't be her to spend the weekend with.
Instead I turned my attention to the various online options. I shortlisted some babes on Craigslist (casual encounters section) and got active on several interesting "Nearby's" on WeChat. Communication was easly since all of the girls were on WeChat or Viber, which allowed me to text and even speak to them; despite of my international number they could call me on Viber, essentially free of charge for them.
So I contacted 4 different girls on CL and got replies with pictures and details from 3 of them. 1 of them asked for way too much $ and another one was very slow with replies. I also had started a rather intensive back-and-forth chat on WeChat with another girl. She seemed to be into foreigners and we had a rather interesting and fun conversation going on. I also got the feeling that she wasn't at all after money. Ultimately she was not available that night, so in the end, an arrangement with a petite 23 year old from CL materialized. I met her at the food court right across the street of the hotel for dinner to get to know each other a bit.
Why meeting outside? Because the one scenario that bothers me with online bookings is when the girl comes straight to your hotel and you have her in the room immediately. I personally always need some time to warm up and get the "head cinema" going before starting any action. In my experience, it puts the girls at ease as well and once the first laughs come out, chances for success have drastically increased.
Turns out the little one was indeed VERY little, but she was transparent about it upfront and asked me if "petite" was fine with me.
What actually bothered me more than her height, was her stature, which was a bit on the chubby side. Her pictures didn't show that and she stated she had gained some weight over the holiday season. On the upside, she turned out to be a real trooper. She is the type of freelance girl that looks after her own sexual desires as well. Total GFE with LOTS of French kissing, super deep BBBJ, great riding, wrapping her legs around you in missionary, etc.
The pre-negotiated rate was 3000, and I sent her home after giving her the well-deserved compensation.
On Saturday morning, I continued my conversation with the WeChat girl and engaged into another chat with a pretty little cutie. Both conversations were patchy and I wasn't sure whether I can get a firm commitment from either one. I already worked a plan see in my mind, just in case. All of a sudden, both girls offered to meet within the same minute. Can you believe it? I decided to park the little cutie ("have to join a business dinner unexpectedly, may contact you later") and made an arrangement with the "interesting girl" who agreed to meet later that night at a coffee shop. The long story short is that one hour after meeting and talking in the coffee shop we weren't really warming up and parted with a friendly "good bye".
While I was walking away from the coffee shop, I texted "little cutie" who showed immediate interest to meet:
SHE: "great, I want to meet you", "are you sure you want to meet me?
ME: "yes absolutely".
SHE: "okay I will come to your hotel soon".
While my imagination and happy anticipation started kicking in, her messages became a bit weird.
SHE: "maybe we cannot communicate longer because my phone not charged", "need to call my aunt to ask for permission to go out tonight".
ME: thinking WTF with the aunt and texting "if your battery is empty can you charge somewhere close by".
SHE: "you need to send me charge".
ME: "I have no idea what you are saying, how can I send you a charger?
SHE:" 7/11 downstairs".
That's when it occurred to me what she was really after. So this is a scam where they make you spend money to charge their pre-paid SIM card. Obviously the next thing that would have happened is the aunt not allowing her to go out that night.
ME:" Now I understand what you are after".
SHE: "Huhu, sorry".
Within 10 seconds I had blocked her on Viber.
While all of that happened, the chubby petite from the previous night started to text me "how are you", "what are you doing". Despite the good service I didn't want to book her again so I told her I am busy.
In the end I ended up at EDSA, but I decided not to go after "my girl" in Pit Stop but took out a nice spinner from Cotton Club. Her moves stood out in the crowd and she had a very firm and slim body. Great butt as well, so I decided she would be the one.
Arriving at the hotel, she started to engage in intensive kissing and I started to feel really good about the session to come. First I took a shower and when I was done she entered the shower. After several minutes I was wondering why she spends so much time in the shower. When I peeked into the bath room, I saw here crouched down in the shower. Strange. I also saw she had taken some cotton balls and a little bottle with fluid into the shower. When I asked her what she was doing there she replied "cleaning". First time for me to see so much cleaning.
When she finally got out of the shower another 10 minutes later, she started a really remarkable session. BBBJ very skillful and deep, riding me in various positions. Her vagina was quite tight and she used her muscle to make it even tighter.
I turned her over to missionary and pounded her hard for a few minutes, then went back into the riding position where I let her finish me. The moment of truth came when she got up from me: blood dripping out of her pussy onto my nice white linen. Now I knew what kept her so long in the shower and what she was covering up. The nice feeling of relaxation was gone in an instant.
So the nice weekend with a girl at my side didn't happen, I will surely try to be more proactive next time. But what several mentioned before on this forum turned out to be true for me. Dating sites and social media while great additional means for us can turn out to require lots of effort with no guaranteed results.
Shit. Givin' me a stiffie! Shhhh, secret. All the Basement Barney's will be on the next plane west!
It wasn't the Bay Caf as the place was on main street towards the middle. There was another large establishment too that was similar in set-up. They second club had a pseudo fishbowl too.
Seems your talking about LA Café/ Manila Bay Café. The board has been down on this place. I think anyone who has never been should take a peak. Of course they will.
Be out of cab fare if it is unacceptable.
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Winter Break – Metro Manila, Philippines (Warning! Long Post)
As you all know by now, IllusionHeart & I had connected in person and planned this trip together. After meeting for the first time, we both hit it off pretty well. Also, since the FR by Illusion is already up and is extremely well written, I will only provide some details to fill in some gaps and recount my own experiences. But first a foreword.
1. Everything said on this forum about quality & quantity of girls in AC and their attitudes is fairly true.
2. Manila (Makati) is very quickly going the Singapore way and will soon outprice itself.
3. Cigarettes, food and drink is definitely far more cheaper in the cities than at DFS.
4. Being polite and pleasant does have its advantages as you will see in the reports that follow.
5. There is indeed no logic to anything that happens in the Philippines, as has been reported countless times by so many members.
So, as they say. Guns up, let's do this!
December 27 (Day 1: Saturday).
Illusion and I flew into NAIA, Manila on a red eye from Singapore and landed by 4:30 am. No major delays. Only sore point is that we paid nearly SGD750 on round fares to Manila from Singapore as it was season time. The fares hover around SGD240 throughout the year otherwise.
The check-in at Century Park was pure luck. I managed a decent smile at 5:30 am after a flight and the front desk lad obliged with early check-ins. Again, being polite and pleasant helps. I slipped him a 100 P for his troubles. Got some much needed sleep and got out by noon for some action. Picked up the SMART SIM card this time after a completely forgettable experience with GLOBE last time. Sadly, SMART was no better than GLOBE. Welcome to the Philippines.
Hutsori's recommendation about Munchen was top notch. Authentic stuff at this little blink-and-miss restaurant. Only 14 covers, serves Paulaner and Ottinger as imported German beers and a delightful selection of sausages. After a good meal we headed to MBC.
At MBC I got hold of the girl Illusion was eyeing and she (Gwen) came along with her friend Jennifer who immediately held my hand and my attention. Jennifer was 19 yo (verified by checking her ID card), a single mother, cute as bits and equally horny. She also had a sister in the bar, named Wendy who came over for a drink. I was soon offered a threesome for the princely sum of 4000 P. I declined and held on to Jennifer at 2500 P.
Back in the room, Jennifer delivered on all the promises made in the bar. An excellent opening session always sets the tone for the rest of the trip. Jennifer wanted to stay longer but I had other plans. I had Burgos on my mind. So, after another round with Jennifer that lasted way longer than I thought it would, I sent her on her way with 2500 PP + 200 P tip for her good work. She left with a big smile. I thought I saw a tiny limp as she walked away. Well. Occupational hazards, I guess.
Overall experience: 7. 5/10.
We headed for Makati around 9 pm. A taxi driver Bert took us there by meter that woked out to 170 P. Bert was chatty and offered to take us to a Casa. Now we had read about these Casa in Manila and I was curious. Illusion helped me stay on course and we reached Burgos in no time. Traffic was pretty thin. Illusion has already accounted for the bars visited, so I will cut to the chase.
I picked my girl Miranda from Kojax. No more than 5 feet, great natural boobs, lovely ass, washboard flat tummy and a killer smile. I am a sucker for dimples. Dimples on the cheeks and dimples in the small of the back. Following the interview, a deal was struck at 2600 P barfine + 3000 P for the girl till 7 am. I told her I wanted company till lunch time and she readily agreed.
Since Illusion had not found a girl yet, I offered to stick around but he insisted I go back to the hotel. So I went back and chewed and screwed this little spinner late into the night. Man, can she suck cock or can she suck cock. After an amazing sloppy wet BBBJ and paint job, she wanted to ride my bareback. I firmly insisted on using a condom. Once the Sagami went on and I penetrated, she squealed in delight. This Japanese gem never disappoints. I pumped her in several positions on and off the bed. Finished Round 1 by 3 am. But Miranda was in no mood to sleep. She fixed me a drink and get herself a beer and started warming me up for Round 2. This one started in the shower and ended on the couch. Fully spent, I went to bed by 5:00 am. I was woken at noon by Miranda kissing my pecker. I went with the flow and let her finish me up with a BBBJ. One of the best I have received till date, no question.
Overall experience: 8. 5/10.
December 28 (Day 2: Sunday).
After I said goodbye to Miranda with her 3000 P + 1000 P tip, Illusion & I headed over to Munchen again. Currency exchange followed and finally we landed up at MBC again by 3:00 pm. Lackluster scene, we left quickly to get some shut eye.
Went to EDSA by 9 pm. Somehow, this complex did not live up to my expectations. The talent in all the bars were pretty thin. Bullets & Arrows have the worst seats I have ever rested my ass on inside a bar. Possibly the girls were not yet back from their Christmas holiday in the 'frovince'. We decided to cut losses and head over to Burgos again. I had seen a cute chick at Plan be the previous night and I wanted to check her out.
At Plan be, the girl I had seen the previous night was there along with her friend, sitting at the edge of the stage. As Illusion went to the washroom, I called her over and both came. My girl's name was Ariza and the other girl's name was MJ. I am really sorry for what happened with Illusion and MJ, but I had a great time with Ariza. Easily a keeper. Flawless skin, great lithe athletic body with perky anti-gravity boobs. She was 19 yo. Expensive place though. 2900 P barfine + 3000 P for the girl till 7 am. Same story repeated. Ariza agreed to stay late. I had great sex with Ariza and she also gave excellent GFE. I managed to bang her twice in several positions. Her appetite for sex was not as much as Miranda but still, good by regular standards. This one I will keep in touch with.
Overall experience: 8. 5/10.
December 29 (Day 3: Monday).
I connected with Illusion by 11:00 am upon seeing his texts. Went over and settled matters for him. I was deeply pained by what happened with him. We headed for lunch to Munchen again and killed some time at LA Caf. Back in room for some much needed sleep.
Being last night I wanted to go to Burgos street bars again. I had seen another girl at Plan be that I wanted to barfine. We started early around 8:00 pm and hit the street. This time Illusion picked his girl first from Kojax and then we headed over to Plan be. I found the girl I was eyeing on the second change in line up. Her name is Kara. Again, she met all my criteria for a barfine, so off we went.
Being the last night in Manila, I invited Illusion for a few drinks in my room. What followed was a delightful evening, which got everyone into the groove. After a couple of hours we said good night to each other and went back to our business. Kara and I had slow, steamy, passionate sex. Wet deep kissing, playing with each other's bodies we went long into the night. Finally went to sleep by 4:00 am. Woke up at 9:00 am. Cuddled Kara from behind and soon I was spooning her. Another long session followed and finally we finished up by 10:00 am. Shit, shave, shower. Packed for the next leg of our holiday. I said goodbye to Kara and she started weeping uncontrollably. I tried to comfort her in my arms, but this is not my area of competence. After a while, I thrust 3000 P + 1000 P into her purse and sent her on her way.
Overall experience: 8. 5/10.
By noon of 30 Dec we were on our way to Angeles. Thanks for reading, the next part will be found on the Angeles thread.
Returning to Manila
I will be coming back for my second visit to the Philippines and will be going to Manila and AC.
For the life of me, I can't remember the name of the Club I went to in Manila that I had some success. It was Burgos Street as I believe we drove past that coming from the Shangri-La. The club was large with a big stage and had a review type show. There were free lancers available at one price and dancers at another. It was named Bay or something like that and down the block from it was Universal or Unicolor that was plain terrible.
Any suggestions from fellow members would be much appreciated as to which clubs in Manila and AC have the best looking eye-candy available.
Returning to Manila
Hello fellow mongers,
I am returning to Manila for my second visit and will be spending time in Manila and AC. For the life of me I can't remember the Club where I had some success with the talent there. It was like named Bay and had a stage and was kind of a review show with girls you could bar fine and take back. They had one rate for the free lancers and various rates for the stage talent. Does this sound familiar to anyone. Down the same street was another like club named Universal or Unicolor that sucked big time. They tried to it us with a big entrance fee for just being there a couple minutes.
Any suggestions for places to visit in Manila or AC that have the better eye candy would be appreciated.