NAIA? I passed thru a few weeks ago and got p47 to $1 USD. I think its back down into the 46-range now.
Learning by doing.
Before we write off LA Cafe, and I do agree that's no place I go these days, I would recommend mongerers to venture into the bar. Why? Bcs me beeing a phil rookie, I went to this place (I think it was called MBC back then but who cares) like 3 years ago. Thats how long I have been enjoying the company of more or less beautiful phil ladies. I found the ISG site by mistake (or by fortune) through someone in a datingsite I was scoping around in (DIA). As a girl was complaining her pics was in ISG. It made me curious so I created my Skogis profile (now from reasons its became the Donald Sucks one). Even so, meet with MBC / LA Cafe was a nice one. Met the occational diamond in the rough when I almost was leaving bcs the girls inside was hardcore looking ones (not my cup of tea). From background icame from living in both Colombia and Venezuela and I was more or less used to top notch model girls back then. Pale skinned and blasting beauties. Anal my favorite as in the more beautiful a girl was the more I enjoyed fuck their barnentrance.
Was dissapointed with the Cafe to start with as only prostitutes (I did some read ups but took it with a grain of salt so to speak) girls were present. Then she stood there in all her beautie. A model like girl and I kindly ask her join my seeting arrangements. She accepted and from there on until now I was pretty much hooked and fell instantly in love with phil girls (I did at this time also have some experience from the BKK sceene girlie wice).
She was a great performer and back then no money was mentioned. I deluded myself into she must been different as I was expecting some money requests as I read upfront MBC was that kind of place with this kind of girls. She left without me donating anything (after pretty hard both anal and normal sex). Times goes by and the next day I hit the Prive (famous nightclub for Hi so people). I am not afraid these places as I role around the world (back then and still doing) clubbing. Have been to almost every great club a city and a country can provide only to find out girls are girls everywhere (Hi so or not so Hi so). At Prive I met the mother of my Makati based baby. A pale, talledbuild, pinay with soft skin and I was nursing my VIP table alone and she came by to ask if I was ok? We fucked, she became preggy and I was in total panic. My panic room would be space as I had (and still do) norwegian GF. From reasons unknown to man she's half pinay and half norwegian but borned and raised my country. Right after this "I am pregnant" msg I learned to know my GF back home also preggy. When a third girl (model girl from Thailand got pregnant I shipped her to HKG to take abortion). 2 is ok but 3 is a crowd (babies).
So step by step I think I became the wice mongerer. But back to the first MBC girl which I from beeing rookie didn't pay. She kept hanging on to me. Reading more and more from here and other sources I felt I should give her something. When next trip came by and she told me through e mails her lap top broke down we met at Robinsons (this was before I did the Ascott Makati residential stays). I bought her new lap top and it felt good to provide her something after fucking her for free first time. After this I never looked backed and I donate in east and west as long as girls keep mouth shut regarding moneys.
I have certain airline attached objects in phils as well as in Thailand. They are all married or in relationships with both native or foreign people. These girls would ofcourse be humiliated if I cashed moneys to them. For the 4 girls I simply this pre x mas bought them each a brand new Iphone 6's+ whatever. That was around 200 to 240 k well spend pisos.
We learn by doing and becoming the full time mongerer, who I am today, takes time. I guess I am lucky bcs I still sometimes go into stealth mode, hide my mongering attitudes, and behave and pick up normal girls everywhere. I have a rule though, girls from countries less fortuned than my country (Norway) I tend to donate a tad. In US if I fuck a UNI student from Berkly I don't donate. If I fuck a girl, whose father is a CEO in branding big intl corporation I don't donate. Girls from 3 world (like phils) I am almost all the time donating. Well I didn't donate the mother (from Prive) as she spoke her family owned many businesses in Quezon area (4 family marts) and she told me they used to go holiday, the whole family (she is a lonely child like me), to US each year. She also attended UNI in US paid by parents so donations not called for. I do support my Makati based baby but I know these moneys go to the baby amd not for the mother. I trust her big time as she has a well paid job, biz lawyer in big korean corporation in Makati, earning her 100 to 150 ka month salary wice.
We all start from somewhere but we can end up nice with experience, hehe.
Does the airport give a bad exchange rate like most airports. How much should I change at the airport? Enough for the cab? How late does the exchange place open at EDSA.
And do they give a good rate?
Reality at La Cafe and Amazonia
For your reference, I too concur with the above assessment. I like realistic wording, viz: "pretty grim" and "hard looking women". And in respect of Amazonia "awful looking crew" , is how I would describe them too. Waste of time, unless you get your rocks off with bottom feeders / desperado's. Personal opinion only, of course.
Worked in Malate a while back, too. Got lucky with LA Cafe. Went there twice, and both times, got a moderately good looking girl, who provided moderately good service, for a moderately acceptable price. (2 k ST, 2 shots).
Filipino Cupid is new to me. Curious.
I knew there were FLs in Robinsons, but I find it hard to tell, and I was too scared to mistake a non-pro for an FL. Afraid they'd cause a commotion. Curious how you tell, and how the approach goes?
What has Uber got to do with this discussion? Or are you just saying that Uber is a good mode of transpiration?
Way to go. A pretty neutral report from the fields. No need to be objective as your subjective meanings stands good. At least its the same impression I have around your writings. Maybe x Exklusive as I have had some blasts there (but I am according to you 20+ years younger than u). Loads of koreans but that also worked to my benefit sometimes as I manage to hook korean girls there. But again I am clubber worldwide so I interact quite good with various folks.
Thank you for a nice report, down on earth report Good quality.
I did expecially like the part where u spoon the girl, fucking her "not to disturb her sleep"(made me chuckle quite a bit):-)
It's more fun in the Philippines
December 29 (Day 3: Monday)
Usual lunch at Munchen and killed some time at LA Caf. Maybe early afternoons is a time to be avoided I guess. I ran into Sherly and she looked good and healthy. She was playing pool with a customer and her friends. She talked to me for some time and apologized for her health the other day.
Being last night we wanted to go to P Burgos street bars again. We started early around 8 p and went to the below mentioned bars;.
Rogues: Being an institution and described so many times by regular members I had to visit Rogues once this visit. We went in and settled down with a beer each. Decent selection of ladies. Unfortunately we got seats towards the end of the bar near the pool table and girls were seated near the entrance besides the bar. We hung around for some time, few sweet girls but lack of eye contact or any discussion didn't help much. Girls seemed to be busy chatting amongst themselves instead. We moved out after a pint.
Hollywood: A peek inside was enough to move on.
Pappilon: A peek inside was enough to move on.
Bourbon Street: 4 girls on stage, below average. We were surprised that such a big bar with a great location advantage was not being managed well. They could easily have fielded over 30 girls given the infrastructure available. Sad. We moved on.
Kojax: Best collection of girls. PYTs. I found a slim gazelle and got her to my table. Her name was Sarah, A sized and 21 year old. She danced very well and it had caught my attention. I decided to BF her. 2600 pesos + 3000 till 7 am. I told her that I wanted her to stay till late and will compensate her accordingly to which she agreed. Lady drinks were charged over and above the barfine.
Plan B: With lady in tow we moved to Plan be. Though the collection was average Blanqui had identified a girl from the previous night he wanted to BF. He got her and we were back at the Hotel.
Being our last night in Manila, Blanqui invited me and my girl over to his room for a small party with drinks and dinner. After a couple of hours of good fun, cards and great music we all got into the mood for the real act ahead. Sarah & I said goodnight to Blanqui and his girl and we retired to our room. Sarah was good in bed. She knew her way around a man's body. Very good at BBBJ and great kisser as well. She liked being on top and enjoyed the WOT and reverse cowgirl position. I was keen to get her in doggy which I finally did and then could not hold for long. She was really agile and flexible. Guess it always goes with the body type of the girl.
We slept for a few hours and when my eyes opened I found her leg tucked in between my thighs. Good enough to bring on morning wood. I did some light kissing as she seemed to be in sleep but was responding. I turned her on her side and decided to spoon her. This way her sleep would not be disturbed and I would have my fun. But within a few minutes of dry humping she was wide awake and fully turned on. She responded with wet kisses and got into the act. I finished in missionary with our tongues intertwined. Good session to start a day and a trip to Angeles City. We cleaned up as I had to check out and leave for AC. I paid her 4000 + 500 tip.
Overall experience: 8. 5/10.
The next part of my trip can be found in the Angeles thread.
It's more fun in the Philippines
December 28 (Day 2: Sunday)
We got our meal, a sausage platter at Munchen. I really love this place. The ambience is cozy and the food is really amazing.
I had to exchange some currency. Now Ermita is full of money exchange shops, but one shop in particular Sheeha was better, in the sense they had very good armed security and solid infrastructure to manage customer flow. Also, the number of people at this shop were more than its neighbors. The USD was hovering around 47.15 pesos. I got a decent rate of 33.50 for the SGD.
We spend some time at LA Caf but it was quite dead. We headed back and rested for some time.
We went to EDSA around 9 pm. We hit the below mentioned bars:
Firehouse: 2 change of girls, around 15 in total. Decent collection but nothing fancied to me.
Casino: 12 + girls, average selection. We moved out.
Cotton Club: Best selection. Good ones were picked up by East Asian guys before we could make our selection. Maybe another day, another visit might turn lucky.
Bullets & Arrows: Average selection. Liked one but she seemed more interested in the Japanese guy chatting up with Mamasan. Lack of eye contact and I moved on.
There was a noticeable drop in the quality and quantity of girls present in EDSA. Not wanting to waste any further time we headed out to P Burgos Street and reached around 12 am.
We went to the below mentioned bars;.
Bottoms up: There were hardly 3 or 4 girls on stage. Few with customers. We moved out after a pint.
Tickles: Average selection. Maybe we had reached late to the bar.
Plan B: Average selection. I headed to the washroom first and before I got back Blanqui had got two girls on our table. Both looked gorgeous. I decided to go with the flow. Girl seated beside me was Mary Jane (MJ), 21 year old, be+ sized breast and a PYT. Bar fine was 2900 pesos and girl wanted 3000 psos till 7 am in the morning. This was the standard rate quoted by girls across bars I. E. 3000 pesos till 7 am. I am a late riser and like to keep the girl till afternoon or lunch time. So I negotiated another 1000 pesos extra and a good tip depending on the service quality till 3 or 4 pm. Lady drinks were charged over and above the barfine.
We reached hotel around 3 am, got few drinks. MJ said she was not feeling well and wanted to take a small nap and I could wake her up in 15 minutes. I was ok and told her to rest. I had another drink and could see that she went into a deep slumber. I didn't wake her up and went to sleep. Around 7 in the morning I opened my eyes and could see MJ still asleep. I touched her and could feel her body had warmed up and she seemed to be running a fewer. She got up and went to the loo. I asked her if everything was ok. She told me that she was not well and had a doctor's appointment later in the day. She was suffering from UTI. I didn't want to engage with her sexually after hearing this. I let her go to sleep. I sent a text to Blanqui right away about this disaster. Few hours later Blanqui responded to my text. He and his gal spoke to MJ and we let her go with 500 peso. Nothing we could do about it. A good night lost. Could have gone either way, could have happened to anyone.
Overall experience: 0/10.
It's more fun in the Philippines
December 27 (Day 1: Saturday)
I returned to Singapore from Jakarta on 26 Dec by a late afternoon Lion Air flight. Went home to freshen up and then begin the second leg of my winter break.
I had connected with BlanquiCeleste after reading his travel plan to the Philippines on the forum thread. As he was also flying from Singapore it was logical for me to join him. His itinerary was exactly same as mine and I had also booked same hotels and duration of stay. 3 Nights in Manila and 4 nights in AC. My original plan was to spend New Year's Eve in AC and if things were not good then come back to Manila. But with Blanqui along I was sure of having a good time in AC despite the reports about rejections and quality girls not being available during this time of the year.
We landed on time in Manila. Luggage took some time as 2 flights had landed at the same time causing some crowding near the belt. Meanwhile I picked up a carton of cigarettes from Duty Free. This proved to be a mistake again as these turned out to be much cheaper at convenience stores in Manila and in AC. Blanqui suggested that we should go to the Hotel directly and try our luck. I agreed and we were off in a taxi within minutes. As we reached the Hotel by 5:30 am, Blanqui approached the front desk and requested for an early check in. Now since we had reservations from 27 Dec onwards and the standard check-in time was only 2 pm, we anticipated a half day charge at the minimum to be levied for such an early check in. We were anticipating a half day room extra charge considering we were in Hotel at 6 am. Thanks to Blanqui's convincing request we got two rooms without additional charge and on the same floor. The young lad at the front desk Jeremy was very helpful throughout the check-in process and made us feel welcome. I now loved this Hotel even more. This was my second stay here and now they had won me as a returning guest with this kind gesture. Since we had not slept well on the flight we decided to catch some shut-eye and reconnected around noon.
We went to Robinsons first and got ourselves a SMART 4 G data card with 1. 5 GB valid for 15 days at 299 + 40 peso for the card. We had to get some food, so decided to go to "Munchen Pub and Grill" on Mabini Street opposite City State Tower Hotel. Thanks to Hutsori for mentioning this restaurant in earlier post. A pint of Paulaner and some Bratwurst / Currywurst really made our day. This surely was going to be our preferred meal joint for the next few days.
After the hearty meal we walked over to LA Caf (the Board still says LA Caf hence not referring to it as MBC) around 3 pm. Thin selection of girls at this time of the day. Settled down thinking things will get better here on. Could see some potential even in the girls present. We eyed two girls seated near the entrance, looked good. A guy approached them but was shot down. One of the girl meanwhile walked away to a nearby table. I asked Blanqui if we should get them. Blanqui agreed and walked up to the seated girl. He came back after 2 minutes saying that she will join us along with her friend. Minutes later the girls were with us, and we got them drinks. After while of chatting up and interviewing we decided to go back. Blanqui had made his pick as well. The girl I had selected was named Gwen, 24 year old, 5' and be sized breasts. For some strange reason (Pinay logic more about this in the appropriate thread) she decided to arrive at the Hotel by herself, alone. So Blanqui, his girk & I took a taxi back to Century Park. Upon reaching I looked for Gwen but she was nowhere in sight. I thought she must have bailed out. I decided to go to Harrison Plaza and get supplies. To my delight, Gwen was waiting at the back entrance. I took in tow to Shopwise and got supplies. Gwen was a sweet girl. She lent a hand in carrying the bags. Back in the room, we got fresh and on bed. Gwen kissed well and was very responsive. A decent BJ and protected sex in missionary and doggy is all I could manage. We lazed around and had a couple of more drinks. Gwen asked me if I wanted her to stay for LT. I told her that I was going out and maybe I would see her again soon. Paid her 2500 pesos + 200 tip. She left with a smile.
Overall experience: 7. 5/10.
P Burgos Street, Makati
We headed for Makati around 9 pm. We hit bars as mentioned below:
Plan B: Decent selection of girls. I got one wearing a baseball cap but she was on her period, what a bummer. First rejection in Philippines.
Hotspot: Good selection of girls. I got one to my table but she was also on her period. Second rejection.
Kojax: Great selection of PYTs, Slim gazelles. Second only to Bottoms up. Likes two but didn't feel the vibe. Blanqui got himself a gal here.
Bottoms up: Best Selection of Girls. Only bummer was the BF. I didn't proceed.
Stardust: Worst selection and empty bar. We could barely finish our drink and wanted to get out ASAP.
Not being lucky in Makati I decided to head back to MBC. It was around 3 am by the time I reached there and so I was prepared to fish at the bottom of the barrel. Surprisingly decent selection. Got myself a beer and moved around. I saw a cute girl at the table to the right of the entrance with a big smile on her face. I walked over and hit up some small talk. Soon an LT negotiated at 3000 pesos we were off to the Hotel. Her name was Sherly, around 5'2', be sized breasts. She said she was 24, I didn't doubt or engage on that as she looked sexy enough to me. Possibly beer goggles. We kissed as soon as we entered the room, deep DFK. I knew I had made a good choice. We smoked together and had another drink. We were on bed in minutes after a shower. Great DFK and good BBBJ. Sherly was indeed a good choice. I really liked her company and the way she behaved with me. We had some good sex with WOT, missionary and I ended in doggy. It was almost 6 am by the time we cleaned, cuddled up and slept. I woke around 11 am to the sounds of Sherly coughing. It seemed the smoking and drinking had got her throat. She had started sneezing. I didn't want to catch any of her virus so I sent her packing off with the negotiated fees and a 200 peso tip.
Overall experience: 8/10.
Two weeks in Malate
Spent two weeks in Malate from New Year to mid month. Nice apartments with great sea view provided by employer. By way of background I was a single 60-year-old guy who knows Philippines moderately well.
Bars: LA Caf you can read lots of opinions but I found it pretty grim. Visited many times at different times of day, close to New Year when many girls are in the province but also later. I encountered mostly hard looking women who were unappealing relative to other options but never took out. Amazonia was worse just awful looking crew and did not bother with other bars.
Discos Main Discos are Exclusiv and ZZZYZX (or whatever the F the name is). Hit Exclusiv many times arriving between midnight and 2 am. With only one exception it had no buzz not many people, most on their phones, geeky K-guys dancing on stage. Time to leave! One Saturday night it had a moderate crowd. Can't imagine when they would ever use the upstairs part. Saw no obvious FL scene but landed normal girls from groups of 4-5 (both said it was their first visit) on separate nights. One 20 year and one mid 30's. I would not have given either a second glance in Angeles but my weiner was in charge at that point. Both poor in bed - 2000 each for LT though one I sent home at 3 am she was so inept.
ZZYZXX in contrast was buzzing with a good crowd every night I went. But it is a hard gig for a western guy especially one a bit older like me. 99.99% Korean guys, lots of FLs many looking good but they would not speak to me nor accept a drink. Probably Ok if you took someone from outside for the dancing.
FL scene at Robinson's was OK. Main gathering spot is Starbucks both inside and outside the actual caf. But multiple others encountered throughout in Food Court and Supermarket. Security leaves them alone. Took one 1500 for ST who was an OK performer.
Managed online girls coming over for the most part. Filipino Cupid had plenty of takers and surprisingly many hits on Tinder. However, a lot of these turned out out to be lady boys!. I just go and swipe quickly so obviously I "liked" them at some point but I think its easier to unmatch them rather than wading through the profiles before deciding to swipe left or right. So many of the others say they don't want hook-ups isn't that what Tinder is about? Some girls who just came out and stated their price. Most were dreaming in my opinion wanting $US100-$200 for all night for no guarantee on service. But prob Ok if you are horny and happy to risk the cash. But a lot of hits and not many actually turning up to meet.
I think that's about all? Robinsons has most of what you need, Uber works well but if I had not been set up there for work by my boss, I would not have stayed in Malate. The times I ventured over to Makati for nightlife were way better in both the quality and attitudes of girls.
If not into clubs, FB is the way to go
There are a number of sites for PSPs in the Philippines. As I understand the rules of this forum though, can't share, except to say that they delineate among the blue, red, and white (at one time at least). Nowadays, there's one with initials EOD, PPO / ACR, AWR, and a couple of other.
Although there are more than enough group sites on FB. And there are tons of FB Profiles advertising that they go on "walks" or "coffee" as they call it.
FH and P4 P
Thanks for echoing about being a gentleman. I hate nothing more than those that think they are cool by manipulating girls from PH.
I have to disagree about the dating online, but my experience is on FH. On there, most girls are looking for BF or Green Card. Many have a child because so many native PH guys ride bare-back and then essentially "chew and screw" and take off if girl gets pregnant. It's pretty obvious in messaging if they are P4 P and most aren't.
I was there last Feb, 2015. It was like a pick-up bar in the West but you KNOW you will get laid-- for some $$, and much less than the EDSA bars. So, yea, 96% of girls I have no interest. But the 4% I had fun chatting up and taking out and some were very new to P4 P. Did it decline in the past year? I had already declined a LOT.
It's BS. Pay a very little to PH heart and save 5 X the time.
Online dating: before your trip to manila
Similar experience last February for me. Most of the Internet, PH heart, I spent too much time messaging. Do not message more than 5 times or skype more than a short time! 1/2 of that will wind up being a disappointment. Weird thing was I met the most incredible chick through a PH heart girl I became "friends" with. So it also serves to help with connections. Do NOT get too connected via online before you are on the ground. Too many of the girls are not 100% what they seem-- maybe you are also not 100% truthful to them since it's 1/2 way around the world? Use online as an "introduction service" with nothing more.