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  1. #9830
    Quote Originally Posted by KgirlPower  [View Original Post]
    Saw some officetal ads and girls had "+1" or "+3" etc next to their names anyone know what that means? I'm guessing "+3" means FS while "+1" is just a HJ?

    Also, I'm confused on the difference between a Hyugatel and Anma. Both seem to offer massage and sex after. Is Hyugatel just done at a hotel offsite?

    Thanks.
    The "indicates how much more on top of the "base rate" they are. Ex: standard 60 min might be 160 k KRW, then if a girl has +1, +2, etc you are expected to bring 170 k, 180 k, etc.

  2. #9829

    Just to go on a lighter note. Saw some web ads but confused on the codes used. Help!

    Saw some officetal ads and girls had "+1" or "+3" etc next to their names anyone know what that means? I'm guessing "+3" means FS while "+1" is just a HJ?

    Also, I'm confused on the difference between a Hyugatel and Anma. Both seem to offer massage and sex after. Is Hyugatel just done at a hotel offsite?

    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by RainMania  [View Original Post]
    Don't worry, he 'feels' he has a good 'connection' with the girls, even though he has never gotten a discount.

  3. #9828
    Quote Originally Posted by NotherMonger  [View Original Post]
    Thank god all4 bb is gone.

    KyleIrving: Stealthing will get you banned from Offictels. I know this because I'm Korean American and talked with the girls I've seen when I lived there. Some are OK with BBFS, others have straight up told me they tell their booker to blacklist guys for doing it. Don't mess it up for other people.
    Don't worry, he 'feels' he has a good 'connection' with the girls, even though he has never gotten a discount.

  4. #9827
    Quote Originally Posted by RainMania  [View Original Post]
    Dude, you just discovered Adal5 and you're so proud of yourself LOL. Maybe you should RTFF and see others, myself included, that have given names of Korean sites and instructions on how to join them, call establishments and make appointments. Everything from kiss bangs, to lip cafes, hyugaetels, officetels etc has been covered, but some dudes still come on here asking for the best hotel to stay at looool.

    Keep your officetel numbers, I didn't ask for them, and I don't need them. I can sign up for any Korean mongering site and get numbers whenever I need. Like I said, there are too many people on this forum who ruin things for others, and you sure are talking like one of those people.

    As for your 'feels' on whether a girl has STIs or whether she'll allow you to stealth her, keep stealthing and see what happens. Most girls don't give a shit whether you're fat or brad pitt, at the end of the day you pay the same rate as a fat, ugly guy but you're supposed to be proud of yourself for the 'connection' and because the girls call you to come back and pay them some more haha! Why don't you ask them for free service if you really want to test the 'connection' you have with them.

    If prostitution is taking advantage of girls, then you're the one who's being taken advantage of. Since you're so happy to pay so much for one shot. Congratulations, you helped the pimp pay his rent and utility bills, maybe also his mortgage. But hey, at least you 'feel' the girl has no STIs and have a 'connection' with her LOL.
    You've said your piece I've said mine. We can agree to disagree. I'm truly proud of you for being an experienced prostitute fucker. My experiences have been fantastic. Never once Rejected. Never once denied. Never once paid extra. Never once kicked out. Never once even yelled at.

    So I'll do me and you do you. Have a lovely life.

  5. #9826
    Thank god all4 bb is gone.

    KyleIrving: Stealthing will get you banned from Offictels. I know this because I'm Korean American and talked with the girls I've seen when I lived there. Some are OK with BBFS, others have straight up told me they tell their booker to blacklist guys for doing it. Don't mess it up for other people.

  6. #9825
    Dude, you just discovered Adal5 and you're so proud of yourself LOL. Maybe you should RTFF and see others, myself included, that have given names of Korean sites and instructions on how to join them, call establishments and make appointments. Everything from kiss bangs, to lip cafes, hyugaetels, officetels etc has been covered, but some dudes still come on here asking for the best hotel to stay at looool.

    Keep your officetel numbers, I didn't ask for them, and I don't need them. I can sign up for any Korean mongering site and get numbers whenever I need. Like I said, there are too many people on this forum who ruin things for others, and you sure are talking like one of those people.

    As for your 'feels' on whether a girl has STIs or whether she'll allow you to stealth her, keep stealthing and see what happens. Most girls don't give a shit whether you're fat or brad pitt, at the end of the day you pay the same rate as a fat, ugly guy but you're supposed to be proud of yourself for the 'connection' and because the girls call you to come back and pay them some more haha! Why don't you ask them for free service if you really want to test the 'connection' you have with them.

    If prostitution is taking advantage of girls, then you're the one who's being taken advantage of. Since you're so happy to pay so much for one shot. Congratulations, you helped the pimp pay his rent and utility bills, maybe also his mortgage. But hey, at least you 'feel' the girl has no STIs and have a 'connection' with her LOL.

  7. #9824
    Quote Originally Posted by AllForBb  [View Original Post]
    Let me make the points clear:

    (1) I think, as KyleIrving said, if a girl offered or accept the offer BBSF / CIP easily, unsafe, because she might offer / would accept offer easily to everyone. Stop. In that sense, 80-85% agreed BBFS / CIP is not safe. Good luck if you want to do 80-85% or more agreed BBFS / CIP beforehand.

    (2) Otherwase, relative safer than case (1) even as KyleIrving did. You do whatever you want including fuck without condom 85% time with girl agreed to let you do it (she sure let all other man do the same), it is your business. KyleIrving just shared his experience and opinion, which we should thank to.

    This is the place to share info and experience. Not joking or augueing on hypocritical moral hight. We are all immoral mongers, no one here is a saint. BTW, I am over 60 and the number I stated is honorst true number. I am still learning.

    This is my last post in this place. Period. I was out of Korea a week ago, and would not come back very soon. Good luck everyone. So long. Last word, I love Korean girls, some of them are so beautiful and delecious!
    I like how they act like stealthily is so harmful to the woman. Yet are perfectly OK with fucking them when there's no way in hell the girls would want to if they didn't have to. Prostitution in general is taking advantage of girls who are at the end of their ropes and need money. If you cared about the girl themselves, then hire a hooker. Give her money. And don't fuck her since it's against her will.

  8. #9823
    Quote Originally Posted by LovinAsia  [View Original Post]
    Are you trying to be retarded and hypocritical or were you born that way?? LOL. You told him to check HIV status yet YOU are the one who want to go BB after sliding your condom off during FS hahaha you are such a poor YOUNG MAN.
    To be fair. Morality aside, BBFS with a girl who agrees and doing it 85 percent of the time as he claims is astronomically higher.

  9. #9822
    Quote Originally Posted by RainMania  [View Original Post]
    What the hell are you talking about?

    You clearly think stealthing women without their consent or knowledge is not a problem, and I am trying to explain to you how big a problem it is not only for you and the girl, but for other mongerers in Korea as well.

    I don't care whether you fuck a girl with one condom, two condoms or no condoms. Just MAKE SURE she agrees with you taking your condom off. That is HER CHOICE and her choice alone.

    Please stop with the shitty mongering antics and advice. This country is already enough of a mongering desert as it currently is, no need to actively try to make it even worse.
    Also by your logic of "fuck you all I'm keeping m info to myself and just read the forums. You can all pay 400 k imma stick to my secret gems of 120 k for FS. Hahaha. " why the fuck should I care about how stealing makes foreigners look when you yourself don't give a fuck about helping foreigners anyway. Amazingly selfish and hypocritical. Hypocritical in more than one sense at this point.

  10. #9821
    Quote Originally Posted by RainMania  [View Original Post]
    Yes we are on a prostitution forum, not on a forum for tricking women into doing something they did not previously agree to do. You must think you're the only guy, or the smartest to have ever tried it.

    You can try to play the dumb foreigner trick every time the girl notices you trying to stealth her, but one thing I've learned about the profession in Korea (and other countries) is that hookers talk, mostly to each other and sometimes to their pimps / mamasan. It's only a matter of time before you're pinned as the dodgy guy who tries to take the condom off without their knowledge.

    And no, licking a girl's nipples without discussion / permission beforehand is not the same as stealthing her. If a girl had said at the start that she doesn't like her nipples being touched, and then the punter went on to deliberately touch / lick them. That would also be a shitty thing to do. With a condom, 99% of the time, the girl puts it on you, which means there is a mutual understanding between both of you on condom usage, so for you to take it off without her knowledge is you taking THAT CHOICE away from her.

    80-85% of my mongering in Korea has been BBFS / CIP, guess what, I've never needed to sneakily take a condom off. I ALWAYS agree with the girl before anything is done, and if I ever get the feeling a girl doesn't want to service me I walk. It's that simple! The good thing about girls refusing tonservice you is you can be rest assured they aren't being forced and are doing the job out of choice.

    The few times where I started CFS with a girl, and ended up doing BBFS, either I or she made the suggestion and the other party agreed. There have even been times when a girl agreed to BBBJ or BBFS and then tried to sneak a condom on afterwards during the BJ. Guess what, that's a shitty thing to do as well!

    You can doubt my experiences all you want. My record here on ISG is there for all to see, and it only details about 20-30% of my experiences in Korea. I stopped giving advice here a long time ago because too many people in this thread are happy with paying KRW 300-500 k for vanilla sex and one shot (LOL). I imagine a lot of other experienced Korea mongerers who are still in country simply decided to stay quiet for the same reason as well, and keep their gems to themselves.

    Good luck with your stealthing and overpriced pussy. As for me, I'll continue to get an understanding from my providers BEFOREHAND.
    I don't get how you don't understand this concept. You do something she doesn't like without asking. You don't ask to finger them. You don't ask to kiss them. You try and if they don't like it they tell you. I take it off then tell them it came off. And at that time it's their choice to keep going or stop. I don't get how you don't understand that concept. It's so simple.

    And again, I literally can ask the multiple pros tuts on kakaotalk what they don't like about foreigners. It's always 1. Fat ugly fucks. 2. Larger than normal cocks. 3. They believe we carry foreign infections. And again, it's so hypocritical to insult my experiences then claim yours are far superior. In my ten or so times doing it, I have not once seen them get the slightest upset. You either don't do well with women or can't read them. You get a feel for how they act / behave and go from there. Like I said previously, if a girl clearly is not into it I probably won't even kiss them let alone sneak it off. And in my experience it has never once been a bad experience. Never once threatened. Never once kicked out. It's 100% a feel for the situation. I'm sure if I tried with a few, they would get mad and call their bouncer or whatever. The difference is as said before, you get a feel for women and what their personality in the thirty or so minutes you have to make small talk.

    You know hookers so well right? LOL I'm sure you take one to dinner every week. If anything, they perfer me because I'm not a fat ugly fuck and in decent shape. More so that they actually message me to comeback randomly throughoit the week. I haven't managed to get discounts however.

    And like you man, you have taught me to be selfish with my experiences. I was willing to make my oficeltell account be available for all to use to get in the 120 k-160 k full service with hotter Koreans and give their business numbers But nah I'll just keep it for myself.

    At this point it's a he said she said deal. You say they hate it and it makes us look bad, I say they don't mind and it depends on the girl. My advice to anyone during any sexual experience is to read the situation. You can feel if your partner is into it. You can feel if she's not. Act accordingly and you'll be OK.

    You say you quit giving advice because people are OK with paying to much. So how about not be an ass hole and share to help others out instead of talking down to everyone. You are such a pleasant person.

  11. #9820
    Quote Originally Posted by LovinAsia  [View Original Post]
    Are you trying to be retarded and hypocritical or were you born that way?? LOL. You told him to check HIV status yet YOU are the one who want to go BB after sliding your condom off during FS hahaha you are such a poor YOUNG MAN.
    Let me make the points clear:

    (1) I think, as KyleIrving said, if a girl offered or accept the offer BBSF / CIP easily, unsafe, because she might offer / would accept offer easily to everyone. Stop. In that sense, 80-85% agreed BBFS / CIP is not safe. Good luck if you want to do 80-85% or more agreed BBFS / CIP beforehand.

    (2) Otherwase, relative safer than case (1) even as KyleIrving did. You do whatever you want including fuck without condom 85% time with girl agreed to let you do it (she sure let all other man do the same), it is your business. KyleIrving just shared his experience and opinion, which we should thank to.

    This is the place to share info and experience. Not joking or augueing on hypocritical moral hight. We are all immoral mongers, no one here is a saint. BTW, I am over 60 and the number I stated is honorst true number. I am still learning.

    This is my last post in this place. Period. I was out of Korea a week ago, and would not come back very soon. Good luck everyone. So long. Last word, I love Korean girls, some of them are so beautiful and delecious!

  12. #9819
    Quote Originally Posted by AllForBb  [View Original Post]
    Good. You are talking less about the moral issue. You realized you are an immoral monger too. LOL.

    You are still in more dangerous situation though. As I stated below, I fucked a lot of girls, most of them, prostututes, with condoms. You, 80-85% without condoms. Quote from you "You base your stealthing on whether you 'feel' the hooker has lots of BBFS or not" . Did you read the last 2 pages of posts? I am the person who wanted to learn from the expert who shared his experience. I don't even know much how to do it, so keep asking, and need a "sex education" as LovinAsia said. No mistake and be careful before you posting.

    We need more sharing, less argueling, particullally on hypocritical so-called moral hight. Thank you and good luck for fucking without condom with girls who agreed to let you do it.
    What the hell are you talking about?

    You clearly think stealthing women without their consent or knowledge is not a problem, and I am trying to explain to you how big a problem it is not only for you and the girl, but for other mongerers in Korea as well.

    I don't care whether you fuck a girl with one condom, two condoms or no condoms. Just MAKE SURE she agrees with you taking your condom off. That is HER CHOICE and her choice alone.

    Please stop with the shitty mongering antics and advice. This country is already enough of a mongering desert as it currently is, no need to actively try to make it even worse.

  13. #9818
    Quote Originally Posted by AllForBb  [View Original Post]
    Tell us a real number: how many real pussies you fucked in your life? The more we learn, the better in mongering life. Not other way round, young man.
    Less than 3000 but more than your teenage brain can get LOL.

  14. #9817
    Quote Originally Posted by AllForBb  [View Original Post]
    Quote From Rainmania: "80-85% of my mongering in Korea has been BBFS / CIP, guess what, I've never needed to sneakily take a condom off. I ALWAYS agree with the girl before anything is done".

    Even more dangerous.

    If a prostitute agreed to let you do BBFS / CIP without a condom, she would agree to every other man to fuck her and come in pussy without a condom. "80-85%" time? You had better to check out your HIV status. LOL.

    Good luck with your agreeing with the girls who let you, and let every other man to fuck her without a condom before you BBFS/CIP her (your words BEFOREHAND). LOL.
    Are you trying to be retarded and hypocritical or were you born that way?? LOL. You told him to check HIV status yet YOU are the one who want to go BB after sliding your condom off during FS hahaha you are such a poor YOUNG MAN.

  15. #9816
    Quote Originally Posted by RainMania  [View Original Post]
    Not surprised by your response. You base your stealthing on whether you 'feel' the hooker has lots of BBFS or not LOL. You should let scientists know of your new ability to 'feel' STIs!

    I get myself checked every six months. Fingers crossed nothing yet!

    Thankfully HIV rates in Korea are very low, moreso even lower when we're talking about penis-vaginal sex, and even lower when specifically talking about transmission from women to men through vaginal sex. BBFS is a risky activity, yes. Which is WHY I GIVE THE GIRL THE CHOICE on whether to do it or not, and not try to be a dickhead by stealthing her.
    Good. You are talking less about the moral issue. You realized you are an immoral monger too. LOL.

    You are still in more dangerous situation though. As I stated below, I fucked a lot of girls, most of them, prostututes, with condoms. You, 80-85% without condoms. Quote from you "You base your stealthing on whether you 'feel' the hooker has lots of BBFS or not" . Did you read the last 2 pages of posts? I am the person who wanted to learn from the expert who shared his experience. I don't even know much how to do it, so keep asking, and need a "sex education" as LovinAsia said. No mistake and be careful before you posting.

    We need more sharing, less argueling, particullally on hypocritical so-called moral hight. Thank you and good luck for fucking without condom with girls who agreed to let you do it.

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