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  1. #1561
    Quote Originally Posted by Gromit8  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info. How is the quality around there?
    I tried two girls there, one was a better looking girl (8/10) she asked for 1 million, negotiated down to 600K, starfish. Never again.

    The other girl was not so high (5-6/10) I told her 300K and she accepted it without any argument. (it was a rainy day, so I think she just wanted a deal quickly) In action she was much better than the other girl before, but still a bit starfish. I think for this price rare to find better.

    Today I drive again here 7-8pm (on the way to home from work) and all girl gone, maybe there was a police raid?

  2. #1560
    Quote Originally Posted by Minus  [View Original Post]
    Drive or walk from the Hoang Quoc Viet street on the Buoi street to south (follow the canal) google maps: 21. 040738, 105. 806052.

    After 6pm 10-15girls walking or standing next to the canal. Most of them stand with scooter.

    If you are come here with taxi just ask the driver to bring you to 17 Hoang Quoc Viet, and walk from here to south on the left side of the canal (on google maps right side)

    The price is 300k-600K for FS + hotel 100k-150K / hour.
    Thanks for the info. How is the quality around there?

  3. #1559
    Quote Originally Posted by Joffre  [View Original Post]
    For a cheap dirty fuck, I reckon Tam Quats are better than street walkers. They don't all offer it, but quite a few do. It's usually routine and grotty, but you can strike gold. Some of my most memorable sessions have been chance encounters behind plastic curtains on a narrow bed.

    If you can speak enough of the lingo to get even a basic conversation going with a non English speaker, and if you stick around long enough to collect phone numbers, then this really is the best place.
    Completely agree with Joffre. There's some great option in TQs for sweet bugger all. Sometimes a quick and dirty fuck makes the day a lot better! I'm going exploring Nguyen Hoang Ton later today. Been a while and the urge is with me. Shall report back later.

  4. #1558
    Quote Originally Posted by Minus  [View Original Post]
    Drive or walk from the Hoang Quoc Viet street on the Buoi street to south (follow the canal) google maps: 21. 040738, 105. 806052.

    After 6pm 10-15girls walking or standing next to the canal. Most of them stand with scooter.
    This tends to be a big hit and miss experience. Mostly miss. Starfish would give better service. It's potentially a lot to fork out for not much at all. Be wary.

  5. #1557

    Street walkers

    Drive or walk from the Hoang Quoc Viet street on the Buoi street to south (follow the canal) google maps: 21.040738, 105.806052.

    After 6pm 10-15girls walking or standing next to the canal. Most of them stand with scooter.

    If you are come here with taxi just ask the driver to bring you to 17 Hoang Quoc Viet, and walk from here to south on the left side of the canal (on google maps right side)

    The price is 300k-600K for FS + hotel 100k-150K / hour.

  6. #1556

    Purpose of massage

    Are you sure? In my experience it seems that the main purpose of many of the VIP massages is to get you off ie a tam quat but a better facility. A lot of the girls either have no massage skills or they just want to massage your dick only. Also a majority of the girls seem to get quiet anxious if you don't want your dick massaged, ie they feel they haven't done or been allowed to do the job they are there for and worry they won't get paid or you aren't happy. I went to a VIP massage and appeared as though I didn't want a massage baby once and she told me that if that's the case it's strange that I came there.

    My vn friend told me calling it a massage is just a cover and that 99 percent of viet men go there to get a HJ / BJ.

  7. #1555

    The purpose of massage

    I think there's a bit of cultural misunderstanding by westerners around massage joints. Lots of VN guys go for a massage, especially after drinking, just to have a massage, and be pampered a bit by a young lady. The happy ending option is just an option to complete the relaxation. It's normally on offer but not always, and a bigger tip is expected. It might be sensuous and sexual, or just a quick release. But it's not the main reason you go there. We ISG types are looking for a good HJ or BJ plain and simple. And there's the other type of westerner who is really looking for professional massage, and gets offended at the offer of a happy ending, as if it somehow demeans and invalidates the massage. I think each type has slightly misunderstood what massage places are for.

    Having said that, there are places pretty well known for having nice girls who all go the extra, like Oasis and my one at 299 Cau Giay.

    For a cheap dirty fuck, I reckon Tam Quats are better than street walkers. They don't all offer it, but quite a few do. It's usually routine and grotty, but you can strike gold. Some of my most memorable sessions have been chance encounters behind plastic curtains on a narrow bed.

    If you can speak enough of the lingo to get even a basic conversation going with a non English speaker, and if you stick around long enough to collect phone numbers, then this really is the best place.

  8. #1554
    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Dawkins  [View Original Post]
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    Hi!

    Thanks for an informative and interesting post. But I don't think I will try it, if not by accident. I don't like to have sex with condom, and to have sex with SE-asian prostitutes without condom is both too risky and too easy to get persuaded into.

    I did however have sex with a nice girl around here a couple of times now. It was very strange however. She did some role playing thing, saying no with the mouth but yes with most other body parts, trying to get me to "rape" her. Anyway, I didn't feel comfortable with the whole thing, so yesterday I decided to try something else. I went out for a walk, took a look around in the old town. Most places around here seem to be scams. I didn't try any. But it was "pay first, everything included, no tipping bla bla", and if I know the north vietnamese tourist areas right, in the end only the 60 minutes will be included.

    Did however learn that prices are very negotiable even on the set prices of the massage. It's very easy to barter it down to half in many places. So give it a try. Don't just barter with the girls. Barter with the parlor and then give the girl a little extra instead, so the people doing the work get the money.

    Anyway, today I went to a less touristy part of the city, a couple of kilometers east of Van Mieu. I came there by accident, walking aimlessly. I had seen many places around, where it said "massage" or "spa" or something like that, but this one not only caught my eye, but held it. It was a somewhat crappy place. A concrete building with a neon light arrow-sign on the other side of the road, saying "Massage". The place had no entrance door. The only thing resembling a door was a row of slices of plastic fabric, of the kind that when it's no wind or movement comes together as one.

    Behind this crappy excuse for a door sat a man. He looked serious and I guess he was there for some security reason. I walked in and got welcomed by a not particularly beautiful woman. I asked about the prices of massage. 25 USD per hour she said, pointing in her book. Way to much, I replied. She asked how about 20. Still no. At 15 I said 10. She said yes as nothing, and I guess even 10 dollars was too much, thinking that I saw some places later that had 4 USD per hour rates.

    I got handed the only girl currently available except for the not so beautiful one who seemed to work in the register. This girl weren't very pretty either, but I don't care so much. I get the feeling many of the prettiest girls gets regulars solely for being so pretty, while not so pretty girls have to offer better service in order to keep the same customers coming time after time.

    I'm pretty new to this HE-massage thing, and I did not know what to expect when the girl told me to get of the clothes and started massaging. Would I have to ask or would she ask in the end? Would the massage be bad, as always in Vietnam? Of course it would. And since it was and she made it obvious what she wanted to massage, I asked her how much."Tip first", she said."After", I said."Tip first"."Massage first, after tip".

    I don't know if she understood. Maybe she was thinking I was trying to negotiate, but really I had only asked how much and said I want to pay after finish. In the end I just thought why not pay first, she didn't seem to be very tricksy, so I said 200 and she was ok with it.

    I still did not know what would happen. I was thinking 200 was perhaps only for a hand job, but she began sucking, sucking good too. She asked me to touch her. I sucked her nipples and began fingering her. After some time I came. She didn't care to massage more, and I didn't care to get more crappy massage either, so I didn't complain when she laid down on the bed with me. After some time cuddling, she pointed at my dick, it was hard again, and she asked if we should do it again. Ok, I said, but I tried with 100 this time. I didn't even want it so much such a short time after the first one. But she was ok with 100 and it would feel stupid not to accept such a good price.

    It was hard to come this time, but eventually I did and then we laid on the bed for some time more before I got dressed. She asked me for my number and where my hotel was. She seemed up for boom boom. 1.5 million she wrote on the telephone. I declined but gave her a 100 extra in tip and left to go get something to eat.

    Overall a surprisingly good experience for a surprisingly low price. Only problem is the BJ is all they can offer, there aren't any steam shower or jacuzzi next door. And I guess for a steam shower and a jacuzzi it's worth to pay a bit extra. If it just weren't for those places being so sterile and industrial, girls having numbers instead of names and what not.

  9. #1553
    Quote Originally Posted by DonkeyNumber2  [View Original Post]
    Prices are a little too high for me.
    If you want to have a cheap non-GFE fuck with some local working girls, you can find the street walkers not too far from the Old Quarter in the evenings. Head to the Hanoi Opera House, a few minute walk from the Hoan Kiem Lake, head down the road along the left hand side of the Opera House (as you face it) , and then at the end of the road (about 300m) turn right and you'll see anywhere from a couple to a dozen girls spaced out along the pavement seemingly watching the world go by. If it's after dark, all these girls are working girls. Boom-boom seems to be the universally understood word. Negotiate a price; you should be able to get them down to around 400k vnd, holding up fingers is a valid negotiating strategy if you don't speak the language. Try not to appear too new to it all to get the best price. Obviously the more girls that are there, the stronger your negotiating position. Once a price is agreed they'll take you over the road to a short time hotel, this is a lot easier if you have a bike, if not some of them do and you can jump on the back. You'll then have to pay 100k to the hotel for the room and will be given a condom at the desk.

    Rooms are pretty grotty, but not to the point that you won't want to do the deed. A quick shower if you want and then down to business. This won't be a GFE as I said, but you'll get a quick enjoyable fuck. Don't expect BJ or anything like that, or if you do expect that they'll want extra money. After you've shot your wad just leave, no fuss. They may try to ask you for a tip afterwards, just say no and leave, don't let them guilt you into something you don't need to do.

    Quality and looks of the girls varies but you can usually find a pretty good looking one. If they try to get you to have 2 of them go with you together, don't bother, it'll be half the service from each girl for twice the price (you're not staring in your own porn film with these girls) and the constantly swapping condoms will start to grate, not to mention it's harder to keep your eyes on two girls at once to make sure you stuff doesn't disappear from your pockets (never had it happen to me, but no point taking chances).

  10. #1552

    Wrong word

    I meant the girls are often a bit disappointing in the looks department anyway not dissociating.

  11. #1551

    Spa ripoff

    In line with the Sakura report below below I agree places like zeus and Sakura are really just places with high prices and should really be avoided unless your say a short term business man just passing through. I went to zeus the other day and paid the now minimum 350 ticket price for one hour. Had a decent but unexceptional un playful massage before being asked right near the end the massababi question. I indicated a 200 k tip but she said no 500k but for what looked to be a rather generic clinical HJ coming I declined and left with no extras I couldn't be bothered negotiating further. Annoying when you know the locals can go there and just tip 200-300 k. So I headed down the road to my local massage place with a 150 ticket price and then had the best massage / HJ I have ever had in hanoi and after living here for 3 years I have had a lot. The girl was more attractive than the zeus girl anyway. She made me so exceptionally happy I tipped her 500 k anyway though I can usually tip 200 k there and even 100 one time with no problems. So given the hit and miss nature of massage experiences and the fact that the service in cheaper places is often just the same or better then your better of going local most of the time, zeus is really just the same product dressed up with a high price and the girls are often a bit dissociating in the looks department anyway.

  12. #1550
    Quote Originally Posted by LuvAsianTang  [View Original Post]
    On the other hand I've had many hot young girls in vietnam (18 and older) with little or no effort. I've even experienced what I considered a 10 and a very enthusiastic one at that. Don't get me wrong, I've also had some bad sexperiences as well but the former far outweighs the later.

    Enough to say that vietnam is a viable pooning environment.

    It may depend on your expectations or your approach too.

    Later, LAT.
    Can you send me some photos of viet hotties? I am all but given up the idea that vietnam has any hotties left (all gone to overseas pastures). I have been meaning to visit for a long long time. But I have gotten accustomed to Chinese beauties especially from the north east province. I am at a point where if I do go to vietnam to enjoy the beaches, I will just take a Chinese female "friend" with me at my expense. But. I rather not bring sand to the beach if at all possible. If I wasn't so god damn picky.

  13. #1549
    Are many girls in Hanoi liberal regarding sexual relationships? I've had some recent experiences that has made me reevaluate the Hanoian girls attitudes towards sex with strangers. Before I was thinking they're much more conservative than girls in other major cities in SE-asia, but I'm not so sure anymore. Now I'd say they're seemingly less conservative.

    Is it just me?

    I would blame the cheating-mentality on the Chinese influence.

  14. #1548

    On the other hand

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeSkywalker  [View Original Post]
    There are just too many scams in Vietnam, everywhere from Hanoi down to central parts then HCMC, against foreigners and even against their own native people. It's very frustrating dealing with Vietnamese.

    I was with a group of European tourists trekking through Vietnam. These Europeans were very sympathetic with the Vietnamese for having to endure a very long and very brutal war against the Americans. But everywhere we went, there were young and old people trying to cheat them out of small change. After having to deal with so many repeated attempts at cheating, these normally very kind and generous tourists just got very angry.

    My feelings are that Vietnamese is a very hardened people by the very poor economic conditions and perhaps by the extreme brutalities during the long war. They are not easy, kind and gentle to deal with. Cambodians and Laotians went through the same brutal war, but they are much kinder and easier going when you deal with them. I cannot explain it.

    It's not easy to find good-looking girls for good sex in Vietnam. The old Communist leaders are deadly ashamed that their young girls have to fuck foreigners for their living. So they go all out prosecuting prostitution to foreigners. It's just not worth the effort to hunt for sex in Vietnam.
    On the other hand I've had many hot young girls in vietnam (18 and older) with little or no effort. I've even experienced what I considered a 10 and a very enthusiastic one at that. Don't get me wrong, I've also had some bad sexperiences as well but the former far outweighs the later.

    Enough to say that vietnam is a viable pooning environment.

    It may depend on your expectations or your approach too.

    Later, LAT.

  15. #1547

    Scams in Vietnam

    There are just too many scams in Vietnam, everywhere from Hanoi down to central parts then HCMC, against foreigners and even against their own native people. It's very frustrating dealing with Vietnamese.

    I was with a group of European tourists trekking through Vietnam. These Europeans were very sympathetic with the Vietnamese for having to endure a very long and very brutal war against the Americans. But everywhere we went, there were young and old people trying to cheat them out of small change. After having to deal with so many repeated attempts at cheating, these normally very kind and generous tourists just got very angry.

    My feelings are that Vietnamese is a very hardened people by the very poor economic conditions and perhaps by the extreme brutalities during the long war. They are not easy, kind and gentle to deal with. Cambodians and Laotians went through the same brutal war, but they are much kinder and easier going when you deal with them. I cannot explain it.

    It's not easy to find good-looking girls for good sex in Vietnam. The old Communist leaders are deadly ashamed that their young girls have to fuck foreigners for their living. So they go all out prosecuting prostitution to foreigners. It's just not worth the effort to hunt for sex in Vietnam.

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