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  1. #871

    DIA & TAGGED

    I just thought that I would remind members that with a little preparation and taking advantage of web sites such as Date In Asia and Tagged a good return can be achieved in pursuing our hobby.

    A few years ago I got a job in Hanoi on a three year contract and for the first two months lived a celibate lifestyle, my first stroke of luck came with a chance encounter in a small restaurant near my apartment when a woman helped me out with a language misunderstanding. We got talking and arranged to meet again the following night in the same restaurant, she was married with two kids from the south and attending a course in Hanoi, after a few meetings the inevitable happened and we continued on a regular basis until six weeks later her course finished and she returned to My Tho.
    During this period I started to chat with a number of ladies using DIA and Tagged and my second success was another married lady who wanted to experience a western man as everyone said that they had bigger cocks than Vietnamese men. She was fantastic with the tightest pussy I have ever entered she would come to me for a fuck and I would go to her house to eat with her family. No 3 a television reporter on secondment from a television station in the south. No 4 who started out as purely as a business transaction texted me after our second session asking if she could come the following night free of charge and three years we still meet at least once a week and apart from the odd meal no money changes hands. No 5 was a strange girl who although was a great fuck was a little clinging, No 7 was another business transaction a strange girl with bright orange hair good fuck but weird!!. No 8 a university lecturer with a fantastic body and once she got going was difficult to stop, married again and only lived two streets away but that didnít seem to put her off. No 9 a fashion designer, unfortunately we only spent one weekend together but it was worth it. No 10 very cute, very small who knew how to please a man and lived with her American boyfriend who had promised to marry but was not coming up with the goods and she suspected was having a bit on the side, so she decided to do the same. I also managed to arrange a number of successful meetings during trips to HCMC and Da Nang. There were of course some failures however the chase was fun, what I enjoyed about most of these girls was that they were not one night stands and indeed three years I still enjoy their company. Having your own apartment is a big plus so much easier to persuade them visit a living room rather straight into a bedroom.

    I have also had success with DIA and Tagged in Thailand, Malaysia, and Hong Kong

    What did surprise me was the number of married women in Vietnam who wanted a bit on the side with a western man, there was even a woman in our office who knew I had a number of girlfriends but still wanted the odd lunch time fuck.

  2. #870
    Hi Friends,

    I'm staying at the Sheraton. Under the Sheraton is the Nutz Bar with many WG. They quote US$150 for overnight (not cheap, but they don't seem to be willing to discount. giving the location, clientele, etc., not a big surprise)

    However, it is not possible to bring a girl into the Sheratoon after 21:00 pm. If you want to do so, you have to rent an extra room for her. The girls say there is a small hotel in 1 minute walking distance where you can go for a ST.

    Quality on average is 5-7 and some speak some English.







    Quote Originally Posted by Explorerman
    Read the Forum in more detail, but in Hanoi, Fortuna is a place, but you stay there, and Sheraton for take out to cheap hotel. Both $100 basically, so more expensive than needed, but perhaps workable.

    Not sure you can do something with Halong, unless you take a cheap girl and cheap tour where they don't follow the rules.

    Good luck.

  3. #869

  4. #868
    JD and Pak Mike - thanks for the posts regarding non Viet ladies and hotels. I am surprised there is not more of a foreign (as in neighboring country) p4p presence in VN, catering to tourists (and ostensibly getting around the government controls on hotels that make most non GF).

    I was planning on making most of my VN trip non-adult in nature (except for Danang, and trying a few places in Saigon thanks to JD), now may take a girl I either hook up with in a p4p or non p4p manner. Does anyone know the visa requirements for tourists from nearby countries? I will RTFI (Internet exchanged for Forum in RTFF), as hopefully it is fairly evident, if not locals knowledge would be handy.

    The only problem with doing that is I will miss out on the fairly hot, drunken backpacker action at the 'beach party' in Hoi An... Boozed up (all), partly naked (some) chicks from all the usual tourist countries.

  5. #867
    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing Fox
    Thank you for your reply John.
    Reading the forum, I didn't have high expectations.

    Maybe the alternative is to stay at a girl-friendly hotel and then pick somebody up night-by-night - or maybe the same person.

    Is there any bar in Hanoi, where I could try to find a WG?
    Read the Forum in more detail, but in Hanoi, Fortuna is a place, but you stay there, and Sheraton for take out to cheap hotel. Both $100 basically, so more expensive than needed, but perhaps workable.

    Not sure you can do something with Halong, unless you take a cheap girl and cheap tour where they don't follow the rules.

    Good luck.

  6. #866
    Thank you for your reply John.
    Reading the forum, I didn't have high expectations.

    Maybe the alternative is to stay at a girl-friendly hotel and then pick somebody up night-by-night - or maybe the same person.

    Is there any bar in Hanoi, where I could try to find a WG?






    Quote Originally Posted by Johndao
    You are very unlikely to find this in the short time you have left to form a relationship online or even in person. VN and especially Hanoi is not Thailand or the PI. It is completely different as far as these things go.

    It would be much easier for you to bring a girl from Thailand or Cambodia or somewhere. Also, a foreign girl can stay in any hotel with you any time, while a Viet girl can not.

    But good luck and have a good time.

    JD

  7. #865
    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing Fox
    I've read the forum back 12 pages, but couldn't really find what I'm looking for.

    I'll be in Hanoi, November 12-14 and looking for girl/woman to accompany for these three days, maybe to Hailong Bay - sex included

    Besides HJ and BJ I haven't found much information about where I could find such a girl.

    I've found 3 on Craig List, have contacted them and are waiting for a reply. Does any of you have any experience with them?

    Thanks for your help,

    The Beijing Fox
    You are very unlikely to find this in the short time you have left to form a relationship online or even in person. VN and especially Hanoi is not Thailand or the PI. It is completely different as far as these things go.

    It would be much easier for you to bring a girl from Thailand or Cambodia or somewhere. Also, a foreign girl can stay in any hotel with you any time, while a Viet girl can not.

    But good luck and have a good time.

    JD

  8. #864

    LT - Girl

    I've read the forum back 12 pages, but couldn't really find what I'm looking for.

    I'll be in Hanoi, November 12-14 and looking for girl/woman to accompany for these three days, maybe to Hailong Bay - sex included

    Besides HJ and BJ I haven't found much information about where I could find such a girl.

    I've found 3 on Craig List, have contacted them and are waiting for a reply. Does any of you have any experience with them?

    Thanks for your help,

    The Beijing Fox

  9. #863
    Hi guys,

    I just got a job offer in Hanoi, and I'm moving next month. Happened to find this forum and read your posts, very useful indeed. But apparently you guys are only looking for local girl. I'm a bit different, I'm looking for all types of girls anywhere I'm going, of course locals are high priority but others cant be ignored. As far as I know there aren't many foreign girls in Hanoi, and it's not so easy to find them. Just wanna know if any of you guys know bars or places where they usually hang out so I can pick up some of them (American, European, Australian, Asian, blalala)

    Thanks a lot

  10. #862
    Quote Originally Posted by Intransit
    Heading to Hanoi next week and will be traveling with my non-Viet, Asian girlfriend. Will we be hassled if we check into a hotel together unmarried? Thanks.
    Will not be a problem.

  11. #861
    Heading to Hanoi next week and will be traveling with my non-Viet, Asian girlfriend. Will we be hassled if we check into a hotel together unmarried? Thanks.

  12. #860
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorerman
    Yes, obviously some guys go to Esalen and ruin it for others, because some girls say "one million" or 500,000 for HJ, and then trying to bargain is silly. Your approach is better, though some girls are persistent if you are a white Westerner with trying to get more. I hate that - a real mood killer.
    Yes, you're right. I have the advantage of being a Viet-speaking Westerner and that helps keep them in line. If they suggest something ridiculous like 500,000, a Viet guy would just look at them like their crazy, so you might try that. Me, I just don't do pre-HJ neogotiations and I tell them very politiely that I don't discuss money until the service is complete. In many cases, the girls want to put their phone numbers into my phone as I'm leaving, so they can't be too upset about the tip.

    I'm quite confident the prices I suggested below are generous by local standards, based on my conversations with the staff.

  13. #859
    Quote Originally Posted by The Guy
    I've generally been happy at this place. It's just 75,000 with the coupon from the previous visit and the facilities are pretty for a VN massage joint. I agree some of the girls are less pretty - maybe 5's. It's no problem, however, to ask for another if you don't like the one they send to you. I've done it several times. However, I believe there are several girls in the 7-8 range, good figures, and some will readily offer to meet you on the outside. It really depends.

    FYI, I tip 200,000 for HJ if the girl lets feel her up inside her outfit, underwear. This happens about 60% of the time. Otherwise I tip 150,000 for solid massage, HJ down to 50,000 for mediocre preformance. I never negotiate a price before the HJ. If they insist on pre-negotiations, I decline and tip them 50,000 - so I'm out $6 for an hour massage. Many will try to get more but if you show you know the prices, they'll fall in line.
    Yes, obviously some guys go to Esalen and ruin it for others, because some girls say "one million" or 500,000 for HJ, and then trying to bargain is silly. Your approach is better, though some girls are persistent if you are a white Westerner with trying to get more. I hate that - a real mood killer.

  14. #858
    Quote Originally Posted by Bespoke
    At the beginning of Nghi Tam road near the Sofitel and Thanh Nien road is Esaleen. There had been some reports here suggesting that it is a good place in Hanoi, but I did not find it so.

    The girls were mid to late 20s, some kinda fat and short. Facilities were better than the one I reported on before, but suprised that it was not nicer given the great sign outside and its proximity to the sofitel.

    Dry and steam saunas offered along with a jacuzzi, shower then up to the small rooms. At the end they ask if you want HJ and proceed. My girl sat at the other end of the table with my legs straddling her. It seemed like a strategy to keep the distance and make groping difficult. Quality of massage was standard, extra service just so so.

    Both mine and my friend's girls haggled over the tip as I would find out later which spoils the mood. I was firm w/ 100 and my friend paid 150 which he said was more the standard these days in HN.

    Price for ticket was 120 for VN and 150 for foreigners. They give you a coupon at the end worth 50% off a foreign ticket and buy 2 get 1 free for vn at the next visit (before 10pm).

    After reading the posts, I didn't expect very much but did think it sounded better in the posts. Didn't see anyone attractive in the 5-6 that I saw walk by me. Tried it out for curiosity and to I guess confirm the lack of good places in HN.

    Damage was 120-150 +100-150 tip for 60 minutes. Less expensive next time around, but I won't be back here either.
    I've generally been happy at this place. It's just 75,000 with the coupon from the previous visit and the facilities are pretty for a VN massage joint. I agree some of the girls are less pretty - maybe 5's. It's no problem, however, to ask for another if you don't like the one they send to you. I've done it several times. However, I believe there are several girls in the 7-8 range, good figures, and some will readily offer to meet you on the outside. It really depends.

    FYI, I tip 200,000 for HJ if the girl lets feel her up inside her outfit, underwear. This happens about 60% of the time. Otherwise I tip 150,000 for solid massage, HJ down to 50,000 for mediocre preformance. I never negotiate a price before the HJ. If they insist on pre-negotiations, I decline and tip them 50,000 - so I'm out $6 for an hour massage. Many will try to get more but if you show you know the prices, they'll fall in line.

  15. #857
    Quote Originally Posted by Bespoke
    On Xuan Dieu street near Ho Tay (westlake) there is a big "Thai Massage" sign at the corner of Thien Thai. You can't miss it. I wanted to see what it was all about, and following Thien Thai to the end there is the Tay Ho Hotel with tennis courts and pool. Looked like a large complex.

    Next to the tennis courts was the massage facility. It has a red neon sign on it. We got there late so it was already dark, thus difficult to see the place. It was dimly lit in any case.

    The ticket price was 200k, seemed kind of steep relative to what other posters have said here. Apparently that was the VIP room with in room sauna and jet bathtub. The facilities are kind of run down in my opinion. The hot water was not working well, but since they collected the money already at the desk I thought I would make the best of it and having something to report.

    The masseuse was probably in early 30s but was not bad looking. After bathing me and washing all the right places, she gave an excellent massage including hot stones treatment. She worked very hard and asked for permission to turn the fan on. Oddly enough (for the looks of the place) she did not offer to do anything else but asked if I was sore anywhere else so she could work on that with the remaining time. She seemed surprised at my suggestion of a tug or maybe just pretending. After checking out the little window she sat on the table and went to work. Would not do anything else but frankly I was not pushing for it.

    Damage 200k+150k tip for around 80 mins. Bottomline is that it's a good massage w/ a bit extra at the end but I will probably not be back.
    I have been there too, and it is as you describe. It seems that the club is trying to get the girls not to offer extras, so they are pressured a bit, it seems. I have been tipping 200,000 there and that is in the VIP room for the 90 minute version. Pretty good massage, and I enjoy the soapy wash, and had a tug once in there also.

    One gal wanted to come to my place instead of doing anything there. Enjoyed a nice tumble with her once, but have not repeated.

    But for that part of town, there are not so many options for massage, so I still go occassionally, usually on a weekend if I am in town. The other place is one near the Sheraton on Xuan Dieu, just about 100m from the entrance.

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