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  1. #881

    Every visitor to Vietnam should have the benefit of...

    your recently, and expensive, acquired knowledge. Thanks for posting your dismal review and TOFTT.

    So called "karaoke" places are, without exception, ridiculous.

    I have never understood how they stay in business, let alone how ubiquitous they seem to be.

    I'd love to have more information from one of our bi-lingual brothers about how you can make these places work for the customer. I mean they must provide something reasonable, I would imagine, since there are so many of them around.

    When I have been in one I absolutely do not allow anything besides one beer to touch the table in front of me, or anywhere else in the room. I am very careful to ask "bao nhieu", how much, before agreeing to even have a beer, which I don't touch, since I don't drink. That usually causes the lights to be turned back up and the bill for one beer to be presented after about 10 minutes.

    Great entertainment though as the cutie attempts to futilely beguile me in Vietnamese and meanwhile a smorgasbord of gum, peanuts, fruit platters and more Heinekens are presented and whisked away.

    The obligatory "mama-san" shows up and in her dozen words of English, garnished in a career working on her back, gives the desperate last effort to separate me form my cash.

    The walk out through the nonplussed dudes, the "Heavies" that back up the eventual demands for your cash if you allow anything to be opened on the table, while smiling broadly and fending off desperate pleas for tips, is amusing. It would probably be an intimidating gauntlet for some folks though.

  2. #880
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger 888
    Ridiculous. That's the price you pay for a Vietnamese girl in Hong Kong who is on her own travel expenses (which is about 1 mio VND per day). If you have money to dispose of, I can give you my account number.
    He, he, he and I guess you are a real specialist for Hanoi, knowing the place in and out.

  3. #879
    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing Fox
    ShT US100, overnight US150, the common expat price
    Ridiculous. That's the price you pay for a Vietnamese girl in Hong Kong who is on her own travel expenses (which is about 1 mio VND per day). If you have money to dispose of, I can give you my account number.

  4. #878
    After the conference I checked into the Dragon Hotel, 5 min walk from the Sheraton and Nutz. It is a lovely Chinese style hotel on 48 Xuan Dieu Street. US$39 per night. Girl friendly!!!
    I looked for girls in Nutz and had them come over to the Dragon. No problem at all.
    ShT US100, overnight US150, the common expat price





    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing Fox
    Hi Friends,

    I'm staying at the Sheraton. Under the Sheraton is the Nutz Bar with many WG. They quote US$150 for overnight (not cheap, but they don't seem to be willing to discount. giving the location, clientele, etc., not a big surprise)

    However, it is not possible to bring a girl into the Sheratoon after 21:00 pm. If you want to do so, you have to rent an extra room for her. The girls say there is a small hotel in 1 minute walking distance where you can go for a ST.

    Quality on average is 5-7 and some speak some English.

  5. #877
    Quote Originally Posted by Frequent
    Just arrived in Hanoi yesterday for business. Was dismayed after reading the reports on the forum, seems like having a little fun in this town is tough.

    Finished working late grabbed some dinner at the hotel then asked the concierge to arrange a taxi to take me to the Sheraton Hotel, wanted to check out the Nutz bar.
    Good report on your experience and yes, if you don't care how much you pay for a girl in this poorest of poor nations, then you can have some fun easily. Going rate for a short-time fuck like this in a mini hotel should be 500k or less ($25) but it is admittedly very hard to make the contacts for the newly arrived on business without the time to look. Mini hotel rate is really less than $10 so that was another $20 for her. All in all, she did very well, $120 for a late night short time with a polite guy.

    JD

  6. #876

    Hanoi night 2

    Checked out "Angelina" in the Sofitel Metropole walked in about 11pm Thursday night, the place was packed, think someone was having a party. A handful of very good looking girls there very well dressed. Not quite sure if they were on the menu or just locals having fun.

    Decided to take a taxi back to Nutz bar at the Sheraton around 1am, but once in the taxi and the alcohol was kicking in I decided to do something. Even though I RTFF, I still decided to ask the taxi driver to take me somewhere (must be something with this hobby), he suggested Karoke. What a fool I was. Went to this place, two very pretty girls an 8 and a 9 were with me, just for company they cost nothing tip was peanuts, negotiated with one of them for after karoke fun, the girls left so I could pau the bill, classic rip off at this point the Karoke bill was a killer only after 1 hour. Beers, Juices, cocktails, snacks/ peanuts, fruits etc, got completely cheated here. Paid $300us to clear the bill and get the hell out of this place.

    Lost my appetite for the girls too, next time I better show better judgement, for anyone else out there. RTFF and don't let the alcohol cloud your better judgement.

  7. #875

    Nutz Bar

    Just arrived in Hanoi yesterday for business. Was dismayed after reading the reports on the forum, seems like having a little fun in this town is tough.

    Finished working late grabbed some dinner at the hotel then asked the concierge to arrange a taxi to take me to the Sheraton Hotel, wanted to check out the Nutz bar.

    Arrived there just before midnight, very loud music, its quite dark and has circular bar in the middle, was by myself so parked up at the bar ordered a beer and take in the atmosphere. Which is pretty flat although the place had quite a few people both foreigners and locals. And of course a few working girls.

    Eventually one strolled over and tried to start a conversation, after the initial hellos had passed she went for the kill and took a translation out on her phone. "you want to go with me" I checked her out, gave her a 4 out of 10 so just said no thanks.

    10 mins later another girl who had been exchanging glances for a while came over. We started making chit chat, she was pretty talkative, quite pretty 6-7/10. Eventually she asked if we could go together. $100us plus $30 for the hotel. I thought for a little while haggled a little but she wasnt budging, but thought what the hell she had a good attitude about her she was smart and could hold a proper conversation in English. We took a taxi 2min ride down some alley and ended up a little hotel, which was functional and relatively clean.

    We had a quick shower then hit the bed playing with each other and kissing touching and teasing each other for a little while before getting down to it. She was pretty good and we managed to switch a few positions before the little chap had to explode!

    I was pretty knackered after, and she was asking me to go again for round 2, but decided that heading home was probably the right thing as had meeting to attend in the morning and it was already 2. 30am. We cleaned up and dressed. Got into a taxi, she paid in advance for it in advance telling the taxi driver would drop me to the hotel, as she had to leave en route. Taxi dropped me safely back to my hotel.

    Overall she may not have been an absolute stunner, but after reading the forum my expectation was low for having fun in Hanoi. It was money well spent she was a nice girl. HCM is much wilder.

    Would I have her again? Probably not, would like to play the field.

    But to help others out there, Nutz bar does get you some action, if all the girls there have the same attitude then have fun and enjoy.

  8. #874
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackfootballer
    And on the other side, number of married werstern men want to try sex with Vietnamese girls or South East Asian girls.
    I agree with both your comments, however what I was trying to say was that I was surprised how many married Vietnamese ladies wanted sex with an slightly overweight 60 year old man who was prepared to give them a little attention

  9. #873
    And on the other side, number of married werstern men want to try sex with Vietnamese girls or South East Asian girls.

  10. #872
    You are right, and also a number of men are on that site too.

  11. #871

    DIA & TAGGED

    I just thought that I would remind members that with a little preparation and taking advantage of web sites such as Date In Asia and Tagged a good return can be achieved in pursuing our hobby.

    A few years ago I got a job in Hanoi on a three year contract and for the first two months lived a celibate lifestyle, my first stroke of luck came with a chance encounter in a small restaurant near my apartment when a woman helped me out with a language misunderstanding. We got talking and arranged to meet again the following night in the same restaurant, she was married with two kids from the south and attending a course in Hanoi, after a few meetings the inevitable happened and we continued on a regular basis until six weeks later her course finished and she returned to My Tho.
    During this period I started to chat with a number of ladies using DIA and Tagged and my second success was another married lady who wanted to experience a western man as everyone said that they had bigger cocks than Vietnamese men. She was fantastic with the tightest pussy I have ever entered she would come to me for a fuck and I would go to her house to eat with her family. No 3 a television reporter on secondment from a television station in the south. No 4 who started out as purely as a business transaction texted me after our second session asking if she could come the following night free of charge and three years we still meet at least once a week and apart from the odd meal no money changes hands. No 5 was a strange girl who although was a great fuck was a little clinging, No 7 was another business transaction a strange girl with bright orange hair good fuck but weird!!. No 8 a university lecturer with a fantastic body and once she got going was difficult to stop, married again and only lived two streets away but that didnít seem to put her off. No 9 a fashion designer, unfortunately we only spent one weekend together but it was worth it. No 10 very cute, very small who knew how to please a man and lived with her American boyfriend who had promised to marry but was not coming up with the goods and she suspected was having a bit on the side, so she decided to do the same. I also managed to arrange a number of successful meetings during trips to HCMC and Da Nang. There were of course some failures however the chase was fun, what I enjoyed about most of these girls was that they were not one night stands and indeed three years I still enjoy their company. Having your own apartment is a big plus so much easier to persuade them visit a living room rather straight into a bedroom.

    I have also had success with DIA and Tagged in Thailand, Malaysia, and Hong Kong

    What did surprise me was the number of married women in Vietnam who wanted a bit on the side with a western man, there was even a woman in our office who knew I had a number of girlfriends but still wanted the odd lunch time fuck.

  12. #870
    Hi Friends,

    I'm staying at the Sheraton. Under the Sheraton is the Nutz Bar with many WG. They quote US$150 for overnight (not cheap, but they don't seem to be willing to discount. giving the location, clientele, etc., not a big surprise)

    However, it is not possible to bring a girl into the Sheratoon after 21:00 pm. If you want to do so, you have to rent an extra room for her. The girls say there is a small hotel in 1 minute walking distance where you can go for a ST.

    Quality on average is 5-7 and some speak some English.







    Quote Originally Posted by Explorerman
    Read the Forum in more detail, but in Hanoi, Fortuna is a place, but you stay there, and Sheraton for take out to cheap hotel. Both $100 basically, so more expensive than needed, but perhaps workable.

    Not sure you can do something with Halong, unless you take a cheap girl and cheap tour where they don't follow the rules.

    Good luck.

  13. #869

  14. #868
    JD and Pak Mike - thanks for the posts regarding non Viet ladies and hotels. I am surprised there is not more of a foreign (as in neighboring country) p4p presence in VN, catering to tourists (and ostensibly getting around the government controls on hotels that make most non GF).

    I was planning on making most of my VN trip non-adult in nature (except for Danang, and trying a few places in Saigon thanks to JD), now may take a girl I either hook up with in a p4p or non p4p manner. Does anyone know the visa requirements for tourists from nearby countries? I will RTFI (Internet exchanged for Forum in RTFF), as hopefully it is fairly evident, if not locals knowledge would be handy.

    The only problem with doing that is I will miss out on the fairly hot, drunken backpacker action at the 'beach party' in Hoi An... Boozed up (all), partly naked (some) chicks from all the usual tourist countries.

  15. #867
    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing Fox
    Thank you for your reply John.
    Reading the forum, I didn't have high expectations.

    Maybe the alternative is to stay at a girl-friendly hotel and then pick somebody up night-by-night - or maybe the same person.

    Is there any bar in Hanoi, where I could try to find a WG?
    Read the Forum in more detail, but in Hanoi, Fortuna is a place, but you stay there, and Sheraton for take out to cheap hotel. Both $100 basically, so more expensive than needed, but perhaps workable.

    Not sure you can do something with Halong, unless you take a cheap girl and cheap tour where they don't follow the rules.

    Good luck.

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