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  1. #677
    Quote Originally Posted by Sudsoz
    Sounds like an official response from her boss. Send her a message early morning (so only she reads) and suggest a meeting at your hotel in the afternoon or lunchtime. Give her name, address and time. Presuming your hotel will let her in of course.
    Yes, working that angle now. Thanks for the encouragement! It seems to be working.

    What sort of tip would you suggest to her for the home delivery service such as this?

  2. #676
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorerman
    A good thought. I did try it, and got an English reply back that she could not possibly have written, so probably she had to ask a friend. It was the "official reply" that she could not see me outside the place, which was not what she said in person, since when we talked she had used the term "boom boom" and hotel, and I know what that means.... I will try again....
    Sounds like an official response from her boss. Send her a message early morning (so only she reads) and suggest a meeting at your hotel in the afternoon or lunchtime. Give her name, address and time. Presuming your hotel will let her in of course.

  3. #675
    Quote Originally Posted by Sudsoz
    But usually they will understand a simple message. Try it!
    A good thought. I did try it, and got an English reply back that she could not possibly have written, so probably she had to ask a friend. It was the "official reply" that she could not see me outside the place, which was not what she said in person, since when we talked she had used the term "boom boom" and hotel, and I know what that means.... I will try again....

  4. #674
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorerman
    She also hinted about meeting me at my hotel and gave me her number, but with her ahving almost no english, that would surprise me if it happens, cause my VN sucks....
    But usually they will understand a simple message. Try it!

  5. #673

    West lake

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcpaul
    Hanoi - Au Co
    Hey Guys

    Has anyone noticed that there are at least three new MPs opening up on the major road heading from Sofitel Plaza out to West Lake?

    Several others along that route have massage+ services (though no FS), and I am curious if anyone has tried any of them.

    News?

    I m staying in this area-- new territory for me but agree it seems to be developing all around the big lake (Ho Tay). I have been wanting to journey into some of these places but still trying to bone up on the basics of the language first.

    Anyone else have more news or want to join forces to explore?
    I tried out the farthest of the three places last night, at 148 Au Co. By the way, they have a half price sale for thier opening. I think it was 105,000 for the sauna, jacuzzi and massage. Everything was new and clean. The massage was good, done by a cute Saigon girl. The inevitable playing and tugging at the right places led to negotiation. I said 200,000, she said 500, ended up somewhere in the middle, which was higher than I wanted, but I was lazy. I usually want to keep it to 200, max 300 in a nicer place. HJ, no BJ. If the massage had not been excellent actually, it would have been a bit much.

    Anyway, if you like the spa/sauna/massage deal with a treat, this is another decent option now. She also hinted about meeting me at my hotel and gave me her number, but with her ahving almost no english, that would surprise me if it happens, cause my VN sucks....

  6. #672
    Quote Originally Posted by Asia Rocks
    Dude,
    Sorry, but you are going to receive the wrath of my being tired, in a bad mood and incredulous about stupid inquiries as this. RTFF; it's all there.
    AR
    Thanks AR - I could not be bothered responding.

  7. #671
    Quote Originally Posted by Mannu Maingi
    Can anyone tell me what is Hanoi in respect to Night Life, girls, casino massage etc is available or not and is hilton hanoi worth staying
    Dude,
    Sorry, but you are going to receive the wrath of my being tired, in a bad mood and incredulous about stupid inquiries as this. RTFF; it's all there.
    AR

  8. #670

    Night Life

    Can anyone tell me what is Hanoi in respect to Night Life, girls, casino massage etc is available or not and is hilton hanoi worth staying

  9. #669

    West Lake

    Hanoi - Au Co
    Hey Guys

    Has anyone noticed that there are at least three new MPs opening up on the major road heading from Sofitel Plaza out to West Lake?

    Several others along that route have massage+ services (though no FS), and I am curious if anyone has tried any of them.

    News?

    I m staying in this area-- new territory for me but agree it seems to be developing all around the big lake (Ho Tay). I have been wanting to journey into some of these places but still trying to bone up on the basics of the language first.

    Anyone else have more news or want to join forces to explore?

  10. #668

    Hanoi - Au Co

    Hey Guys

    Has anyone noticed that there are at least three new MPs opening up on the major road heading from Sofitel Plaza out to West Lake?

    Several others along that route have massage+ services (though no FS), and I am curious if anyone has tried any of them.

    News?

  11. #667
    Your experience was unpleasant but then many experiences in Vietnam are like that. The only experiences I had in Hue was the kind of rip-off experience like you had without the unhappy ending. Invariably promised FS at the outset etc, in the room with cheap plastic sofas (always a bad sign), I was hooked additional money at each stage for hand job and blow job and taking pants down but no FS. And nothing was really provided anyway. I got bored and just walked out before they could pull anything else on me. That was some years ago but it appears that things just don't change in Vietnam.

    The only thing such people understand is power. Unless you can muscle up more power than they have, such as higher police connections, just don't go there. Tell the rest of us where the place is and tell everyone in Hue about it too. Vietnam operates on reputation in every market; go to providers who have a good reputation (such as a good mention on this board) and given all the bad ones a bad rep on this board.

    But when it comes to rip-off taxi drivers, all you have to do is learn the Vietnamese words "Khanh Sat" (pronounced Kaing Sat where you swallow the last T - it means police) and shout it out as loud as you can. Bang on the windows - open them and shout it loud. You also need to take a photo of the guy and the registration number of the taxi and even a sneaky pic of the meter with the inflated number. Invariably he will back down. The shouting makes it quicker.

    After you exit the taxi, go to the police if you can or ask your guesthouse to report it for you. Often these rip-off guys hang out around places where tourists are, such as popular restaurants. Report the taxi to the restaurant. They will usually either see them off or make sure that customers do not take that cab.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guapo28
    I also posted this in the other areas thread, but I think anyone mongering in Vietnam should be aware of this.

    Warning- On June 25th, I was in Hue and looking for a little action. In the main tourist area, it was common for moto or cyclo drivers to approach you with offers of $10 girls, so finally I decided to take one of them up on the offer, and it was a three minute ride to a place which was on a main street but set back from it. I walk in and choose my girl who was nothing fantastic but acceptable for $10. We go in a room which only had couches and a tray of beverages and food was brought in (yes, I did figure I would be paying something for this). I grabbed a beer and she helped herself to a soda without asking. We kissed for a little bit and then she starts feeding me fruit from the tray. Then she opens a small bag of chips and I started telling her no, stop opening stuff (although she didn't really speak English, but my body language was clear) because I could see exactly where this was going. Then she opens a bottle of water and tries to get me to drink it and I was like I have my beer and refused. Anyway, then she said suck suck, and I was like yea, that is what I came for. We bargain, she started at 500, 000 (a far cry from the $10 I was promised), but being Vietnam I bargained her down to 200, 000. She wanted the money and I paid in advance (always a bad idea and I do know better). The result was a lousy handjob with no lubricant. I said wait a minute, you said suck suck, and she said yes, sook sook with a hand motion as if that is the Vietnamese word for a handjob, I of course wasn't buying but not a lot I could do.

    I wish that was the worst of this story, but it is not. After I finished she wiped me off and then immediately opened the door and started saying something in Vietnamese, I did not even have my pants up yet and was like what the fuck. I told her to close the door and she ignored me. Then, three more people came in, an overweight bouncer type, the boss, and another girl, and they look at the tray and started writing out a bill, which I knew was coming. They wanted a whopping 1 million dong, which I laughed at, and said no way in hell. They tried to say there was a room charge and all this stuff, and I said frankly the girl was lousy, the only thing I actually opened was a beer, and a beer, soda, some fruit, small bag of chips, and even the bottle of water that the girl opened did not add up to 1 million, maybe like 50, 000. They even pointed to the moist towlettes, saying that was part of the bill. I was like whatever and attempted to just leave, not an option as I was pushed back, so I just sat down on the couch and figured I had to wait them out a bit. Of course, they were yelling at me and trying to intimidate me, but I remained defiant. Then they dropped it down to 300, 000. I still refused and they were not happy, threatening to kill me. I told them to go ahead (because I knew they were full of shit). I also told them I would be calling the police and the boss said he owned the police and he was with the mafia, which I laughed at. He said he was going to get his club, I told him to go ahead. Then they dropped it to 200, 000, and I still said it was too much. At that point he grabbed my throat as if he was going to choke me, but really didn't choke or hurt me. He again said he was going to kill me and that he was going to get his club. I told him to go ahead. He then left the room (not a good sign) and actually came back with a club, I showed no fear but I was getting very concerned even though I really thought they were full of shit. They said 100, 000 and I said okay, I paid it, and they walked me outside, where motorbikes were waiting. The motorbike drivers did the typical calling out of motorbike, and I said no, I don't need to go anywhere, I just need to find a phone to call the police. I walked out to the main road and took note of the surroundings and the addresses of the neighboring buildings so I could remember where this was and identify it for the police. The asshole boss then came out and gave me a 50, 000 note and said here, now you only pay 50, 000, now go. I took a motorbike, still taking note of the way back and how to get there. When I got back to my hotel (small guesthouse), I said that I needed to talk to the police and asked them to call them for me. Apparently the owner of the hotel is also a police officer, so they said they could definitely help me. They called a friend who speaks good English, and I told him the whole story. He said yes, the police will do something, we will go talk to the owner, he is police. The two of them talked in Vietnamese, and then they asked me where it was, I gave them complete directions with street address, and the cop/owner changed the look on his face when he heard the directions. I was then told that it was too far away (3 minutes by motorbike) for the police to do anything, and that I just needed to be careful, which I saw straight through, obviously they do have a police connection.

    Anyway, I guess the most important thing is to follow basic mongering rules, never pay in advance, don't bring more money than you need in case you get robbed (an empty wallet would also help bargain them down, showing them you don't have it.) Also, going to places recommended on this forum is probably a safer bet. If you do wind up in a situation like this, just remain defiant, stay strong, and be prepared to wait. Oh, and two days later in Hanoi I found myself trapped in the back of a taxi (doors/windows wouldn't open) with a rigged meter that ran ten times as fast and the driver wouldn't let me out as I refused to pay. I again just waited it out and after about twenty minutes I was freed without paying a cent. Apparently, only take taxis with reputable companies. I have been to 22 countries, including supposedly dangerous ones in Central America, and Brazil, mongered and traveled all over, but I have never had these kinds of issues anywhere else.

  12. #666

    Warning Warning Warning-Motorbike/Cyclo drivers in Hue

    I also posted this in the other areas thread, but I think anyone mongering in Vietnam should be aware of this.

    Warning- On June 25th, I was in Hue and looking for a little action. In the main tourist area, it was common for moto or cyclo drivers to approach you with offers of $10 girls, so finally I decided to take one of them up on the offer, and it was a three minute ride to a place which was on a main street but set back from it. I walk in and choose my girl who was nothing fantastic but acceptable for $10. We go in a room which only had couches and a tray of beverages and food was brought in (yes, I did figure I would be paying something for this). I grabbed a beer and she helped herself to a soda without asking. We kissed for a little bit and then she starts feeding me fruit from the tray. Then she opens a small bag of chips and I started telling her no, stop opening stuff (although she didn't really speak English, but my body language was clear) because I could see exactly where this was going. Then she opens a bottle of water and tries to get me to drink it and I was like I have my beer and refused. Anyway, then she said suck suck, and I was like yea, that is what I came for. We bargain, she started at 500, 000 (a far cry from the $10 I was promised), but being Vietnam I bargained her down to 200, 000. She wanted the money and I paid in advance (always a bad idea and I do know better). The result was a lousy handjob with no lubricant. I said wait a minute, you said suck suck, and she said yes, sook sook with a hand motion as if that is the Vietnamese word for a handjob, I of course wasn't buying but not a lot I could do.

    I wish that was the worst of this story, but it is not. After I finished she wiped me off and then immediately opened the door and started saying something in Vietnamese, I did not even have my pants up yet and was like what the fuck. I told her to close the door and she ignored me. Then, three more people came in, an overweight bouncer type, the boss, and another girl, and they look at the tray and started writing out a bill, which I knew was coming. They wanted a whopping 1 million dong, which I laughed at, and said no way in hell. They tried to say there was a room charge and all this stuff, and I said frankly the girl was lousy, the only thing I actually opened was a beer, and a beer, soda, some fruit, small bag of chips, and even the bottle of water that the girl opened did not add up to 1 million, maybe like 50, 000. They even pointed to the moist towlettes, saying that was part of the bill. I was like whatever and attempted to just leave, not an option as I was pushed back, so I just sat down on the couch and figured I had to wait them out a bit. Of course, they were yelling at me and trying to intimidate me, but I remained defiant. Then they dropped it down to 300, 000. I still refused and they were not happy, threatening to kill me. I told them to go ahead (because I knew they were full of shit). I also told them I would be calling the police and the boss said he owned the police and he was with the mafia, which I laughed at. He said he was going to get his club, I told him to go ahead. Then they dropped it to 200, 000, and I still said it was too much. At that point he grabbed my throat as if he was going to choke me, but really didn't choke or hurt me. He again said he was going to kill me and that he was going to get his club. I told him to go ahead. He then left the room (not a good sign) and actually came back with a club, I showed no fear but I was getting very concerned even though I really thought they were full of shit. They said 100, 000 and I said okay, I paid it, and they walked me outside, where motorbikes were waiting. The motorbike drivers did the typical calling out of motorbike, and I said no, I don't need to go anywhere, I just need to find a phone to call the police. I walked out to the main road and took note of the surroundings and the addresses of the neighboring buildings so I could remember where this was and identify it for the police. The asshole boss then came out and gave me a 50, 000 note and said here, now you only pay 50, 000, now go. I took a motorbike, still taking note of the way back and how to get there. When I got back to my hotel (small guesthouse), I said that I needed to talk to the police and asked them to call them for me. Apparently the owner of the hotel is also a police officer, so they said they could definitely help me. They called a friend who speaks good English, and I told him the whole story. He said yes, the police will do something, we will go talk to the owner, he is police. The two of them talked in Vietnamese, and then they asked me where it was, I gave them complete directions with street address, and the cop/owner changed the look on his face when he heard the directions. I was then told that it was too far away (3 minutes by motorbike) for the police to do anything, and that I just needed to be careful, which I saw straight through, obviously they do have a police connection.

    Anyway, I guess the most important thing is to follow basic mongering rules, never pay in advance, don't bring more money than you need in case you get robbed (an empty wallet would also help bargain them down, showing them you don't have it.) Also, going to places recommended on this forum is probably a safer bet. If you do wind up in a situation like this, just remain defiant, stay strong, and be prepared to wait. Oh, and two days later in Hanoi I found myself trapped in the back of a taxi (doors/windows wouldn't open) with a rigged meter that ran ten times as fast and the driver wouldn't let me out as I refused to pay. I again just waited it out and after about twenty minutes I was freed without paying a cent. Apparently, only take taxis with reputable companies. I have been to 22 countries, including supposedly dangerous ones in Central America, and Brazil, mongered and traveled all over, but I have never had these kinds of issues anywhere else.

  13. #665

    Third night

    Sudsoz, sounds easy, but Well, maybe I was all in the wrong places: We went to a bar called Club17 next evening and it was the same as the day before just with live band and more bar/less club atmosphere. Sat in the second row so no girls talking to us (the guys at the bar at least had some ongoing conversation). Approached what looked like the only couple of girls in that place who did not work there. But after a few sentences felt like they were freelancers. Since I know I could not bring them to Fortuna but instead my girl was waiting there left to Boss.

    She was busy in one of the rooms, but first disappointment vanished as I saw the lineup. Is it just me or has Boss one of the most beautiful girls in asia? So I choose another one, #67, to chat and dring with. Suddenly "my girl" came a long and I felt a bit sorry when she saw me. But she told me to go with my new friend. No, I told her, I wanted to stay the third night with her as well and her answer was "okay, lets go all together. Wait for me here". She showed up around 1pm and after some hesitation I gave in and took both to my room.

    Well, my experience with threesomes in asia has been that they never work since the girls just chat with each other and you have to take care of both (which for me is to much work) or one gets bored quickly. Also it makes me crazy when they continiously speak in their native language. Same here, but instead of trying to have a real threesome they just split the time: My girl watched tv while the other did it with me in the bathtub. When we moved to the living room my girl bathed and only came back as we finished. #67 was really great, btw, she clearly faked but that with professional skill so I did not mind. Beautiful face (lovely smile) and nice body. After she left (she only wanted ST) I continued with my girl for the rest of the night who was not a bit disappointed to have shared me.

    So overall a good experience and worth the hefty 260USD (80 USD boss+100US DLT+80USD ST) IMHO

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  14. #664
    Quote Originally Posted by JoyofSex
    Ok, so done that: But where can I meet regular vietnames girls? I mean, not only for a one night stand, but if she is educated and speaks english even more? The use of dating sites is a good idea for expats but not that easy if you are just in town for a few days. Any advice? Isn't there a regular bar? I mean, if I see some girls look at me (rather young, blond and tall) it is hard to imagine that you cannot meat regular girls somewhere!
    My experience is that you just smile and be nice to the girls that you meet in shops, hairdressers and wherever. It may take a few dates and some patience before they come across with a real GFE experience. Small gifts of perfume and chocolates also help. But be aware that once you are ''in'' they can be hard to shake off.

  15. #663

    No luck for short term stay?

    I am currently in Hanoi. My first visit. I did RTFF and thus decided for the Fortuna Hotel. Of course found the KTV downstairs and went there first day after arrival with my two companions.

    I am not sure how the economics work, I can just tell you what I experienced: Got a line-up of really beautiful girls to choose from, each of us took one. Found out that mine did not speak english and thus asked Mamasan to change and her to recommend a few. Picked one a tall and slim one (could not read her number) and we had a drink (the guys and girls each one). Then the girl suggested to go upstairs. Told that to Mamasan and she asked if long time or short: since long (all night) was 100USD and short 80USD did choose the first and she told me I should go and the girl would follow. However, I still got the check from the bar and it was 145USD. No idea where that number came from, it stated "misc" as one 81, xxUSD point. Well, I figured that was for the lady to come with me, but found later out I was wrong: I had to pay the lady on top in my room.

    When she came to my room I realized how beautiful she was and nice too. Bathed together and she started to tease me and give me a BBJ. Went on to the bed and had great energetic sex, however she told me after like 15mins to "finish". It disturbed me but I did. Hugged and she soon got a phone call deciding to leave. No LT? I asked her to stay and after some beggin she did. Talked a lot about her life and her dreams. Then we started to kiss again and went for second round but this time she said "autchie" after a few minutes and asked me to stop. Third later that night would not even allow entrance. Not sure whether that was fake complaining or real, but I felt for her and the way we slept together arm in arm was really nice. Real GFE (including the complains, I guess.) until 11am. She asked for payment and left.

    Next evening we went to a club called "Hi Guom Xanh" (32 Le Thai To) in order to meet some regular girls, however it seemed there were none except some groups of guys and girls. The music and stage show were great though and the bartender that served us really cute. She asked for my phone number but even I gave it to her it wasn't much worth since she spoke really ZERO english. Danced with her and some others until 12 when the place closed down.

    So what now? I got convinced by one buddy (the other went to bed) to try boss again and decided to pick another girl that would not complain. However, when I saw "mine" I instantly had that warm feeling around my heart and asked her to come with me again. She told me she was sorry for complaining and would love to come with me again. Paid 80USD at the bar and she visited me 5 min later. We bathed again and started to fuck in the bathtub. Then on the bed. Three times, no complain. Fell asleep and woke up in the morning, after long kisses did some sports together. Well, she complained to me after like 10 minutes and asked to stop. I was disappointed first but she indicated to bath again and made me cum with a bbj in the there. Overall as much GFE as P4P can get IMHO (including the negatives).

    Ok, so done that: But where can I meet regular vietnames girls? I mean, not only for a one night stand, but if she is educated and speaks english even more? The use of dating sites is a good idea for expats but not that easy if you are just in town for a few days. Any advice? Isn't there a regular bar? I mean, if I see some girls look at me (rather young, blond and tall) it is hard to imagine that you cannot meat regular girls somewhere!

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