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  1. #11489
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkNumber  [View Original Post]
    What is an RTC?
    If you were to spend less than one minute scrolling down this very thread you would find the answer.

  2. #11488
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkNumber  [View Original Post]
    What is an RTC?
    A red carpet club. I've never been to one, but I can imagine what it looks like inside.

  3. #11487

    Condoms required in porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bitumen  [View Original Post]
    Does the new law effective 1 July mean that German porno sites like MyDirtyHobby mean that the actors need to wear condoms as well in their films, or are they excluded since they are not performing prostitution but acting in a film and as such exempt?

    Following that theme, if I say to my girl in the FKK that I am hiring her to make a movie for my next major motion feature film and that we are going to be the actors in one scene, does that in any way change the activity involved to another state?
    This has been asked and answered here before. No, the new law doesn't require condoms in porn. And no, you can't get around it by claiming you are making a porn movie.

  4. #11486
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianG  [View Original Post]
    If you are in Frankfurt why you not try Dietzenbach first? Is an RTC!
    What is an RTC?

  5. #11485
    What about the demographics of Romania? Isn't that country suffering because a large portion of its female population has left and then left the men in Romania without enough women? It seems Germany has a large surplus of women traveling to it at least and then that would require other countries to have a deficit of women.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    Agreed. And if they happen to be the prettiest girls in the club, that makes things very frustrating for punters and really spoils the atmosphere.

    And this is why I had to laugh when the guys on the Sharks thread wanted to raise the half-hourly rate from 50 to 60 euros. If the girls are so money-oriented, why aren't they trying to earn money?

    Now this is the really scary possibility to me: that an external force is messing with the incentives of the girls and the game is quite different from what we are led to believe.

    I mean, if a girl comes in with the name of her pimp emblazoned on her, what are the odds she is on a fixed wage? This is the kind of thing FKKs should crack down on before the government uses it as an excuse for further interference.

    Yep, millions of hours of monger experience on this board and still nobody knows how the girls are really managed.

    This is where I totally disagree. I have observed the phenomenon in practically all FKKs.

  6. #11484
    Not incented to earn.

    In real world, we would call them lazy. Or not capable.

    They are all around us. Where we work, live; among friends. They are frustrating in real life, and are frustrating in the club if they happen to be girls you take a fancy to, but they sit there yakking away with gal pals.

  7. #11483
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    Agreed. And if they happen to be the prettiest girls in the club, that makes things very frustrating for punters and really spoils the atmosphere.
    Steffi at Sharks seems to fall into this category. Pretty as she is, she just sits at the bar with a towel wrapped around her.

  8. #11482
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    This is where I totally disagree. I have observed the phenomenon in practically all FKKs.
    You have probably been more observant than me!

  9. #11481
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Sorry, I was not clear. In some clubs there are quite a few girls who send to be making a determined effort to just do a very few rooms.
    Agreed. And if they happen to be the prettiest girls in the club, that makes things very frustrating for punters and really spoils the atmosphere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    My guess is that they have a very low earnings target (maybe a net income after costs of 50 euros) , either because that is still a good wage by Romanian standards,
    And this is why I had to laugh when the guys on the Sharks thread wanted to raise the half-hourly rate from 50 to 60 euros. If the girls are so money-oriented, why aren't they trying to earn money?

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    or because they have to hand over so high a proportion of their earning to their lover boy, that they have little incentive.
    Now this is the really scary possibility to me: that an external force is messing with the incentives of the girls and the game is quite different from what we are led to believe.

    I mean, if a girl comes in with the name of her pimp emblazoned on her, what are the odds she is on a fixed wage? This is the kind of thing FKKs should crack down on before the government uses it as an excuse for further interference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Of course, all speculation.
    Yep, millions of hours of monger experience on this board and still nobody knows how the girls are really managed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    And in some clubs (Sharks. GT, LR, Acapulco, to name just a few) this phenomenon is almost nonexistentent.
    This is where I totally disagree. I have observed the phenomenon in practically all FKKs.

  10. #11480
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    Why wouldn't they have an incentive to earn? What are they there for?
    Sorry, I was not clear. In some clubs there are quite a few girls who send to be making a determined effort to just do a very few rooms. My guess is that they have a very low earnings target (maybe a net income after costs of 50 euros) , either because that is still a good wage by Romanian standards, or because they have to hand over so high a proportion of their earning to their lover boy, that they have little incentive. I'm sure such girls don't enjoy the sex with customers. Of course, all speculation. And in some clubs (Sharks. GT, LR, Acapulco, to name just a few) this phenomenon is almost nonexistentent.

    Cheers.

  11. #11479
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Many a discussion I've had about how come certain girls in mainstream FKKs don't ever seen to want to earn any money. One consensus has been that this small minority have no incentive to earn.
    Why wouldn't they have an incentive to earn? What are they there for?

  12. #11478
    KC. Yes it is subjective. There is no authority to give an official list

    If you have only a short time then definitely Christian is right: go to Dietzenbach and save a five hour round trip to Venus etc.

    Don't bother with Annabella, which has a tiny tiny lineup

  13. #11477
    Quote Originally Posted by KCQuestor  [View Original Post]

    Oh I will. The question was just whether or not I wanted to drive all the way to Duisberg or Bochum (from Frankfurt) just to experience a "true RTC" or if I could stick with Annabella and Bernd's which are both much closer to my hotel. With only 3 1/2 days in Frankfurt I have to make the most of my time. Thanks to you and to everyone who answered me.
    If you are in Frankfurt why you not try Dietzenbach first? Is an RTC!

  14. #11476
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Annabella and Luderland and Dietzenbach are rtc as well as those in your main list. I would question La Luna: it has traditionally been seen as a bit apart, with its higher pricing, but I would now include it.
    Alles Ohne was available officially and even publicly in all these clubs, unlike other Saunaclubs/FKKS where girls who practised it were refused further club entry (apart from Bernds)
    I hope this and my previous post make it clear
    Thanks. From your response and others it is as clear as I can expect. I am still a bit puzzled how some people can definitively declare a club to not be an RTC (or to be one) if it is that subjective, but everyone has their own opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Visit one and then you'll know for yourself
    Oh I will. The question was just whether or not I wanted to drive all the way to Duisberg or Bochum (from Frankfurt) just to experience a "true RTC" or if I could stick with Annabella and Bernd's which are both much closer to my hotel. With only 3 1/2 days in Frankfurt I have to make the most of my time. Thanks to you and to everyone who answered me.

  15. #11475
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Not just FKK and RTC. The hardcore German mongers have always diversified their P6 investments. If an ex-FKK WG ends up working apartments or RLD, usually someone on the German-forum FKK threads will let everybody else know. That suggests they are scouting everywhere.
    OK (and this one goes to Bitumen also), but to put my question a bit different, would the number of rooms at the FKK's increase with the RTC's getting the shortest end of the stick? Or at least even out the potential negative effect it presumably seems to be getting on the tourist market?

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