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  1. #2303

    Cash payment to the girl

    Most likely this practice has two purposes.

    1) separate the main and legitimate business of the sauna from sex activities that might be "illegal" or not appropriate to the eyes of the community. As somebody said there is trend to "clean" these cities.

    2) keep old prices as they were and have the sex provider earn her money on her own. Result is higher cost of the season, far more revenues for the sauna, higher earning for the girl as she might try to pull more from the customer by upselling.

    So we go from a "all-in" price (a plus of Macau sauna) to a price list of services as I am pretty sure soon the girls will come out with a laminated price list.

  2. #2302

    Golden Sauna

    Headed to Golden on my recent trip to see if the girl I met last year was still there. It was a very memorable session and I hoped to repeat as she had one of the best bodies I've seen, and all natural-- slim, six pack abs, nice-sized boobs and perky. Plus super cute face (like anime character) and personality. Only bad thing is she's not interested in meeting up OTC.

    Golden is can be difficult to find if you've not been there, but it's basically behind Fortuna Casino, and you can take the hotel shuttles to Lisboa or Holiday Inn Macao to get within 3 minutes walk. I get to Golden and try to see if I can see who's there before I pay the fee. I'm told no. Cannot. I try to describe her (didn't remember her number). But they laughed and said every girl fits that description. So I took a chance, fully expecting to eat the entry fee and walk if she's not there. I'm told new policy (as reported earlier), I have to give a portion in cash directly to the girl-- 300-400 MOP depending on the class of girl. I didn't have enough cash on me as I wanted to pay with card, but they allowed me to make a charge for a 3% fee to get cash, so I did so for a couple hundred MOP.

    I do the shower thing, get harassed by the shower girls, but skipped the pools. Golden's pool / sauna area is not super enticing. Then I go get my robe, and the girl who dresses me (VN, short, somewhat cute) does something I've never seen before. She dried my nether regions with a hair dryer and tissue. LOL. Then she somehow gets a 100 MOP tip out of me. I don't know why I did that. Should have only been 20. Oh well.

    I walk into the small lounge area and right in front, the first girl is none other than the one I came for, and she recognized me right away. Well, we ended up having a great session as usual (she is very talented with the bathing portion, with some sumata and cat bath and soapy action and loves to rim. I haven't encountered that at any other places or with other girls). The rooms are pretty small here, but functional. Mirrors everywhere help with the view.

    As we get upstairs, they are playing bingo! Somehow I win a free 20 min massage (head, shoulders, thigh, ear cleaning). And if you add them on Wechat you can get another free one. So I got an ear cleaning, shoulder massage, and threw in a thigh massage since I liked the massage girl. Enjoyed teasing one of the servers from VN who was kind of cute, quite tall, but had a very serious face on. Eventually got her to crack a smile.

    Golden is much more affordable and the quality here is pretty good. My total bill came to less than 1800 MOP, that's with the extra 100 tip and 128 massage. The atmosphere is more casual as well, almost a little too casual. You have some girls that look disinterested and bored, just sitting there, others hustling, and they aren't very polished (even when the manager was introducing the girls and said 1, 2, 3 so they could all go "thank you boss", only a couple said it and it was not in unison like other places). But it has it's charm-- a little more intimate and feels more laid back I guess.

  3. #2301
    Quote Originally Posted by ReefLostCause  [View Original Post]
    In any Macau sauna I've been, it's true however, that for some reason probably related to some hypocrite law, I've been asked to pay a part of the fee directly to the girl in cash. For me, it was only a small fraction of the total price, like 100 MOP or so.
    Hi ReefLostCause, I am sorry to hear about your crappy Rio session. This kind of thing used to be quite rare. I really hope it was a one off and not becoming part of a trend.

    Paying the girl was never done prior to 2016. Of course a patron could always tip a girl extra if he so desired. I always kept my wallet and cash stowed away in a locker and paid the full tab with credit card upon leaving the saunas. Paying the girl her cut, as far as I know, is currently only being done at Rio and Darling 1. But, I would not be surprised if this practice spreads to the other saunas as the saunas are coming under increasing pressure from the mainland. This method of payment allows the saunas some degree of deniability as their business must endure this new level of scrutiny and repression from abroad.

    As MichaelSamuel points out, FN has done away with parading their girls in the lounge area. This is another example of a sauna trying to conform to the external political pressure while still remaining open and operating as best they can under the new conditions. I am also afraid that the lesser number of available Chinese sauna girls is another example of the new paradigm. And the closing of the Lisboa Racetrack was yet another example, the first sign of the changing times. It is sad to think that the era of Macau saunas operating freely and offering their customers high quality girls with great service may be ending. Lets hope not.

  4. #2300
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Currently, at least back in April of this year, Rio was the only place where I saw actual 8* plus girls. Rio was the first sauna I hit after arriving from Manila late due to a plane delay. I was introduced to 4 stunners (management calls them "super models) in their lineup on a Sunday evening around 11:30 pm. The prices for these girls was out of this world (3000 mop for each of the two Chinese "Super Models" and 3600 Mop for each of the two Korean "Super models") which I know will discourage most mongers reading this post. That said, I will categorically vouch that these 4 girls WHERE true model quality meaning that IMHO they were TV actress or magazine perfume ad quality talent. So I was all ready to pay up and go with one of the Chinese super stars, when I suddenly got into an unfortunate misunderstanding (argument) with the host on payment methods and I left Rio that night without taking a girl. It is all in my trip report. I mention it again here because if you do decide to visit Rio, be sure to bring at least 900 mop cash to pay the super model in the room should you decide on that level of girl. The balance of your sauna tab can be paid the usual way with a credit card as you leave the establishment. Are "super model" Rio girls worth the price? Is any girl worth that kind of money? I leave it up each individual punter to answer that question for himself. All I can say is what would you be willing to pay for a young Qi Shu (Transporter)? Ha Ha.

    N.B.
    Last time I visited Rio (the Macau sauna, not the Brazilian city) in September of this year, prices were:

    - Vietnam: 2300 MOP.

    - China: 2600,

    - Korea / Japan / Caucasian: 4100 ; Give me a fucking break.

    I choose a Chinese girl with teacher / secretary-look glasses. Very easy to spot if she's still here.

    Beautiful body, but it turned out to be one of the worst sessions of my trip.

    First, she constantly toyed with the Air Conditioned in the room, and the room ended up being colder than a playoff game in Green Fucking Bay.

    Then she treated me like she didn't give a shit. I don't know if it's because I'm not Asian (well, I have one Asian parent, but I was born and raised in west Europe), or I did something wrong. But if I ever go back to Macau, I'll be sure to avoid her.

    In any Macau sauna I've been, it's true however, that for some reason probably related to some hypocrite law, I've been asked to pay a part of the fee directly to the girl in cash. For me, it was only a small fraction of the total price, like 100 MOP or so.

  5. #2299
    Quote Originally Posted by LosAddict  [View Original Post]

    Tip 1 If you are going to visit a Sauna, don't waste money on a hotel.

    Most Sauna's, if not all, allow you to use the facility for 18-24 hours. Take advantage of that. If you are going to spend a couple hundred dollars in a sauna, why waste another couple hundred on a hotel where you are just going to go sleep anyways? All the Saunas have designated sleeping areas, and some like FN (my personal favorite), even have very decent, comfortable, individual rooms that they can give you for the night if you ask early enough and they haven't run out of them (I've never been refused an individual room in 3 years just to give you an idea of how many individual rooms they probably have).
    Good tips. I've tried the bunk style sleeping rooms before, but with a dozen snoring men all out of sync, it made it very difficult to get any sleep. I vowed never to do that again. Did not know about individual rooms, which saunas have these? Only FN? May have to give that a try-- though I typically book a hotel as I have a few sauna girls on rotation that come over fun (one or two without any money required, just some small gifts, dinner etc, which I prefer) and then I can get a good night's sleep / decent breakfast.

  6. #2298
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelSamuel  [View Original Post]
    Is hopefully a temporary shortage, especially since the Chinese economy has been sliding recently. But at the same time I have wondered how there can be these attractive PRC girls available in Macao and elsewhere when they constantly talk about the excess number of men in country. Maybe it's some of the demand for girls working itself out in P4 P availability?

    As far as the change in operations on the lineup I thought about trying to express my opinion, but figured as one of the lone white guys and not their base it wouldn't mean much so I just let it go. Need a comment card in this situation! Haha..
    Just my 2 cents on this, the Rio does offer spa coupons, I believe they are either 10 or 15%, or was it a fixed 150 hkd? I really can't remember, was staying there last year and used the Sauna twice. Could get an additional coupon at reception for second visit as well.

    As for quality, I guess it really depends on what you're looking for. In my experience the girls and overall service in Rio are top notch, tons of girls that are way above average in the looks department (not necessarily tagged as "models" but some amazing PRC girls), however I never got a GFE treatment in the room, whereas in FN this was almost always what I got.

    BTW, NB, you know I am very very fond of Manila (esp. Makati), and yet I never miss out on at least 3-4 days in Macau when in SEA, these Saunas are worth every penny to me.

    To each his own, enjoy.

    D

  7. #2297
    Is hopefully a temporary shortage, especially since the Chinese economy has been sliding recently. But at the same time I have wondered how there can be these attractive PRC girls available in Macao and elsewhere when they constantly talk about the excess number of men in country. Maybe it's some of the demand for girls working itself out in P4 P availability?

    As far as the change in operations on the lineup I thought about trying to express my opinion, but figured as one of the lone white guys and not their base it wouldn't mean much so I just let it go. Need a comment card in this situation! Haha.

    I think next time through will start there but unless it's much better I will move on. Even though the costs are higher, traveling to Macao is too far and costs to much to have sub standard quality and only save a small amount.

    Natty, as a side note my first visit to Macao I stayed in the Grand Emperor and on the way up to the room these 2 hotties got in the elevator and off on the sauna floor. I had my plans from RTFF for Rio, 18, and FN, but I guess I should have followed them right into work! Too bad the hotels don't offer a little discount for guests. Don't know why they don't it's always good marketing and 5-10% would have probably been enough to push me in that direction. For 15%+ I would probably even stay in that masters hotel with darling given the selection has been good there and that hotel does not look impressive.

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Hi Michael, I enjoyed reading your Macau & BKK reports. Your experiences at FN mirror my most recent visit in April. FN was a real disappointment for me this last trip especially considering all the great FN girls I have had the pleasure of on past visits. Fortunately for me, my trip was saved by a super sexy Chinese girl at Darling 1 and a very passionate Malaysian girl (my first ever) at Excellent Sauna in the Grand Emperor Hotel where I stayed.

    I think your friend is right. Currently, at least back in April of this year, Rio was the only place where I saw actual 8* plus girls. Rio was the first sauna I hit after arriving from Manila late due to a plane delay. I was introduced to 4 stunners (management calls them "super models) in their lineup on a Sunday evening around 11:30 pm. The prices for these girls was out of this world (3000 mop for each of the two Chinese "Super Models" and 3600 Mop for each of the two Korean "Super models") which I know will discourage most mongers reading this post. That said, I will categorically vouch that these 4 girls WHERE true model quality meaning that IMHO they were TV actress or magazine perfume ad quality talent. So I was all ready to pay up and go with one of the Chinese super stars, when I suddenly got into an unfortunate misunderstanding (argument) with the host on payment methods and I left Rio that night without taking a girl. It is all in my trip report. I mention it again here because if you do decide to visit Rio, be sure to bring at least 900 mop cash to pay the super model in the room should you decide on that level of girl. The balance of your sauna tab can be paid the usual way with a credit card as you leave the establishment. Are "super model" Rio girls worth the price? Is any girl worth that kind of money? I leave it up each individual punter to answer that question for himself. All I can say is what would you be willing to pay for a young Qi Shu (Transporter)? Ha Ha.

    In any case, I decided not visit Macau on my next 2 month SE Asian trip coming up in 2017. It will be the first time since 2010 when I discovered the place that I will not spend a week in Macau during one my Asian trips. I will miss getting my annual fix of sexy Chinese, but I decided to spend more time in Manila this next trip where I have two amazing Pinays waiting for me with open arms and wet pussies. Knowing how much I love and crave Chinese girls, I will probably head back to Macau on the trip after the next one, but who knows. I also love Filipina, Thai, and Indonesian girls.

    Stay thirsty my friend,

    N.B.

  8. #2296
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelSamuel  [View Original Post]
    After a successful trip to Darling2, the previous night's disappointment at FN <snip>

    My local buddy is frequently Rio most of the time and is happy with the selection there so I think that will be next stop. The lack of PRC girls in generally from D2 and FN is interesting, not sure what the underlying reason behind that is, anyone have any insight?

    As a side note the new Wynn Palace and Parisian are both really impressive properties and worth a visit. The ramen place inside the wynn is a bit on the pricey side but was very good as was the noodle shop as well. Lastly, if you haven't ever tried flying out the Macao airport it is a really nice option if continuing in SE Asia. It's small and compact and efficient and has many low cost flights making it a nice time saver over HKG.
    Hi Michael, I enjoyed reading your Macau & BKK reports. Your experiences at FN mirror my most recent visit in April. FN was a real disappointment for me this last trip especially considering all the great FN girls I have had the pleasure of on past visits. Fortunately for me, my trip was saved by a super sexy Chinese girl at Darling 1 and a very passionate Malaysian girl (my first ever) at Excellent Sauna in the Grand Emperor Hotel where I stayed.

    I think your friend is right. Currently, at least back in April of this year, Rio was the only place where I saw actual 8* plus girls. Rio was the first sauna I hit after arriving from Manila late due to a plane delay. I was introduced to 4 stunners (management calls them "super models) in their lineup on a Sunday evening around 11:30 pm. The prices for these girls was out of this world (3000 mop for each of the two Chinese "Super Models" and 3600 Mop for each of the two Korean "Super models") which I know will discourage most mongers reading this post. That said, I will categorically vouch that these 4 girls WHERE true model quality meaning that IMHO they were TV actress or magazine perfume ad quality talent. So I was all ready to pay up and go with one of the Chinese super stars, when I suddenly got into an unfortunate misunderstanding (argument) with the host on payment methods and I left Rio that night without taking a girl. It is all in my trip report. I mention it again here because if you do decide to visit Rio, be sure to bring at least 900 mop cash to pay the super model in the room should you decide on that level of girl. The balance of your sauna tab can be paid the usual way with a credit card as you leave the establishment. Are "super model" Rio girls worth the price? Is any girl worth that kind of money? I leave it up each individual punter to answer that question for himself. All I can say is what would you be willing to pay for a young Qi Shu (Transporter)? Ha Ha.

    In any case, I decided not visit Macau on my next 2 month SE Asian trip coming up in 2017. It will be the first time since 2010 when I discovered the place that I will not spend a week in Macau during one my Asian trips. I will miss getting my annual fix of sexy Chinese, but I decided to spend more time in Manila this next trip where I have two amazing Pinays waiting for me with open arms and wet pussies. Knowing how much I love and crave Chinese girls, I will probably head back to Macau on the trip after the next one, but who knows. I also love Filipina, Thai, and Indonesian girls.

    Stay thirsty my friend,

    N.B.

  9. #2295

    Also did not easily find good Viet girls near Golden Dragon

    Quote Originally Posted by Pcpc1688  [View Original Post]
    There are 4-6 places around that center. Walk around and look is all you have to do bro.

    PC out.
    PC,

    You're obviously very knowledgeable and trying to help us find the right place, but my experience is similar to the others. I tried two nights to find "playful" Viet girls at the massage places near GD. Found the massage places, but the women working there were quite legit and didn't look like "playful" women. In fact, they said they don't do that kind of thing. They looked more like Aunties, though maybe a little younger than a typical Auntie. May I ask how pretty the women you experienced were? We all want to experience what you've been successful at getting there.

  10. #2294

    4 Nights in Macao 3&4

    After a successful trip to Darling2, the previous night's disappointment at FN, and jetlag I took night 2 off. Next morning got a message from my D2 girl, I have taken to securing chat IDs for any girl where the session was a 7 or above as I have had some success in either arranging a repeat or offsite visit and has the added benefit of usually resulting in getting a photo of the girl for my archive, and she wanted to come over in the afternoon. This worked out nicely and had a nice time in the pool and then dinner and back for some fun. Only downside was the next day would have maybe swung by D2 in the afternoon but didn't want to run across her and not choose her. So on my last night I headed back to FN hoping to do better than my first time. I have to say it was disappointing again. I really dislike the new setup of not being able to preview what they have at all. So when you call for a lineup you are put on the spot to choose, and since you don't know what may be available you don't know if not choosing a girl and waiting till later is even worth it. As a VIP member FN is still a good deal compared to the other shops and I like the massage girls and the lounge area but going to have to branch out next trip. So after getting my manicure and foot massage I got taken back for the lineup. Again virtually no PRC girls, what the shit? Having already gone viet 3 times I really wanted a PRC girl. Thankfully there was one model available who was decent, but part of the sauna experience for me is supposed to be options. I chose her and had a good time, nothing extraordinary though. As a side note I did find it much more necessary to bring my own larger size protection throughout my trip. Don't know if the girls are buying smaller sizes or what's going on there, but wasn't as much of a problem for me in the past.

    I went to check out the Grand Prix museum and managed to hit it on the one day a week its closed, Wednesday I think, so since I was in the neighborhood I walked over to golden dragon to check out the viet massage places. I am reasonably sure I located them and went into when for a massage. Got a decent massage, but didn't seem like options were on offer? The girl was ok, but not really that young and I didn't try to initiate anything. PC would you mind a short summary on the MO for these places? Should I have roamed with my hands? Given her a wink?

    My local buddy is frequently Rio most of the time and is happy with the selection there so I think that will be next stop. The lack of PRC girls in generally from D2 and FN is interesting, not sure what the underlying reason behind that is, anyone have any insight?

    As a side note the new Wynn Palace and Parisian are both really impressive properties and worth a visit. The ramen place inside the wynn is a bit on the pricey side but was very good as was the noodle shop as well. Lastly, if you haven't ever tried flying out the Macao airport it is a really nice option if continuing in SE Asia. It's small and compact and efficient and has many low cost flights making it a nice time saver over HKG.

  11. #2293

    18 Sauna

    Quote Originally Posted by BionicMan  [View Original Post]
    Was the thigh massage the usual teasing of any chance of any good ending?

    As all saunas in Macau there is a minimum charge per guy unless you take a FS massage or the individual services exceed the minimum charge.
    The thigh massage in the main saloon is exactly as you mention. It is basically a fluffing for events to come. (No Pun intended Ha Ha Ha) I have succeeded in a good ending by moving the service provided to the privacy of the back room. These girls have amazing experience in keeping you hard for hours at a time or quick release. Up to you.

    On the money again with the minimum charge. The point here is that on this trip paying the spa charge was the best deal.

  12. #2292
    Quote Originally Posted by Bigstud  [View Original Post]
    I have a weakness for Viet chicks! Can you kindly provide more details on the VN massagi places around GD? Thanks in advance!
    There are 4-6 places around that center. Walk around and look is all you have to do bro.

    PC out.

  13. #2291

    Viet massagi places

    Quote Originally Posted by Pcpc1688  [View Original Post]
    Dam that sucks. FN was an old favorite 3 plus years ago but now just the Viet Massagi places around GDragon. I get BBFS with all bells and sucking for 800 mop or less and it's home service.

    Pc out.
    I have a weakness for Viet chicks! Can you kindly provide more details on the VN massagi places around GD? Thanks in advance!

  14. #2290
    Quote Originally Posted by Suerte8  [View Original Post]
    I recently re-visited Sanua Eighteen "18 Sauna" It is located on the sixth floor of the Golden Dragon Hotel.

    The exception was the infamous thigh massage. After all what not to like about a thigh massage?

    Bottom line, my two friends and I were not inspired to meet the talent and decided to leave.

    The total for three guys. Tips, 1/5 hour lounge massage only. Some food and soda. About $ 3,000+ HKD or over $385+.

    You decide.
    Was the thigh massage the usual teasing of any chance of any good ending?

    As all saunas in Macau there is a minimum charge per guy unless you take a FS massage or the individual services exceed the minimum charge.

  15. #2289
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelSamuel  [View Original Post]
    Happy to be back in Macao and for slightly longer than I normal get to stay. Spent the first night at the new Wynn Palace which is amazing and some real "deals" on rooms right now as they are just building business. I splurged as they offered an executive suite for 2000 HKD on a Saturday night. Resort is amazing and was cool to stay for a night at a much cheaper price than is going to be available in the future. After a long flight from US and morning in HK was low on energy but fought the jet lag and headed over to my go to FN. I have to say it was really quite disappointing and even I had been on my VIP membership for 2 massages and 10% off I would have been really annoyed.

    First they have changed operations and they no longer bring the girls to you in your seat and to the "Hello, boss" part which was a favorite of mine. Now when you ask they line the girls up at the end of the first hallway down toward the rooms and explain the pricing. I really didn't like this. First you could see no preview beforehand which I like to do wherever I go. Either in one of the showtimes like Rio or at FN would be able to check out girls as they walked by and lined up for others before calling for your own selection. Second this really puts you on spot to choose and its sort of a narrow space so really have to check the girls out like you are checking out livestock. Honestly I really don't like the change.

    Then came problem 2. Lineup was seriously week, there was 1 model and a couple non asians otherwise all viets and none were that impressive. This was a Saturday night so I expected the best lineup of the week and I don't think I missed that many girls that were with customers, but with lineup the way it is now it's hard to tell. So being on the spot I chose a viet that had some nice knockers and was smiling a lot and making eyes. Unfortunately this is also were it topped out. Service was disappointing. The funnabagos were manmade, not a surprise, but they weren't even very good when undone. She wasn't very warm in room, no kissing, but honestly she had bad breath anyway. Basically everything was mechanical and not good. BJ was week. And she stayed in CG for 20 secs before wanting to switch. Thankfully I had dosed up on some kamigra or I think I would have lost wood. At this point I was getting annoyed so I kept working at it for as much as I could and just ignored her. But this was a week way to start my trip.

    On the positive side the massages back in the lounge were great and they have been remodeling around various areas and all of that is nice. Without the VIP which kept the whole bill to 2100 for 3 massages and girl this would have been really disappointing. I have 4 nights total and will probably go back. But last night jet lag was catching up to me and I had planned on going back but the lousy experience wasn't enough to make overcome the heavy eyes. But damn, this is China and basically not a Chinese girl to choose from? I also noticed not a single girl walking the Wynn-starworld circuit. Sign of the times?

    Day 2 I went by Darling1 at masters hotel about 4:30. Again lineup was a bit lacking, which was surprising again given it was weakened. Maybe a lot of girls occupied? When I exited at 6:30 selection was a lot deeper. Wanted to get some PRC action but nothing was impressive. Chose a viet, #389, that turned out to be real winner. 21 YO and just tight everywhere. Playful and decent english. At 1700 this is definitely a better option than what I had the night before. She gave a pretty good massage when tub was filling and a damn good time in the tub. Some LFK and eventual DFK as well. Really had a great time with her. She wasn't much for CG but was tight and liked the other positions as well. She certainly sounded like she was enjoying it or was faking it well enough for me. Did a bit of DATY which is uncommon for me, but she really warmed up to this. Planning on repeating with her before I leave.
    Dam that sucks. FN was an old favorite 3 plus years ago but now just the Viet Massagi places around GDragon. I get BBFS with all bells and sucking for 800 mop or less and it's home service.

    Pc out.

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