Some tips for Macau
As many of you may already know, Macau is quite expensive for everyone on this forums favorite hobby. The quality is no doubt top notch, but even still, for the amount of money you'the end up spending on a few days in Macau, you could easily fund a trip for 7-10 days in a place like Pattaya, Thailand. Inclusive of airfare, hotel, entertainment, and girls (a bit of a side note, I once found a roundtrip ticket with Air Asia from MFM (Macau's Airport) to UTP (closest airport to Pattaya) for 50 USD. Something to keep in mind for those of you looking for cheap routes into LOS). With that being said, if you still do find yourself in Macau, as I occasionally do on my way in and out of the mainland (China), here are some tips that can help you get maximum bang for your buck.
Tip 1 If you are going to visit a Sauna, don't waste money on a hotel.
Most Sauna's, if not all, allow you to use the facility for 18-24 hours. Take advantage of that. If you are going to spend a couple hundred dollars in a sauna, why waste another couple hundred on a hotel where you are just going to go sleep anyways? All the Saunas have designated sleeping areas, and some like FN (my personal favorite), even have very decent, comfortable, individual rooms that they can give you for the night if you ask early enough and they haven't run out of them (I've never been refused an individual room in 3 years just to give you an idea of how many individual rooms they probably have).
Tip 2 Take the free shuttle buses provided by the casinos.
Whether you enter Macau by land, air, or sea all exit points have buses waiting to escort you and your luggage to their designated casinos. My personal favorite is the Wynn as its gets me to within walking distance of my favorite Sauna. FN - and they even have free Wi-Fi on the buses! (I think all the casino buses have free Wi-Fi now though).
Tip 3 Leave you luggage at any casino for free!
For those of you worried about what to do with your luggage for your stay in Macau, keep in mind that almost all the casinos provide free luggage storage for at least 72 hrs. Take a few essentials with you; a change of clothes, your valuables (I. E. Passport, large amounts of cash) and leave everything else in the casino. Don't worry about security, these are 5 star casinos making millions of dollars and the last thing they are looking to do is rob you (aside from on the casino floor, LOL). You can get and use all other supplies such as towels and toiletries at the sauna. They literally have everything from toothpaste, toothbrushes, shaving kits, hairsprays, you name it, so don't worry about any of that stuff. I've left my luggage with numerous casinos in the past Wynn, Grand Lisboa, Venetian, and never had issues, but again my personal favorite is Wynn as its closest to FN. Note: The baggage storage for the Wynn is at the main lobby near where their waterfall thing is. It's about a 5 minute walk from where the bus drops you off.
Tip 4 2288 HKD combo at FN.
I've tried almost all the Saunas in Macau and find that you get maximum value in Familia Nobre. The girls are almost always top notch, the staff is not too pushy, and on the whole I've always had a pleasant experience there. First thing I would suggest you do when you arrive is get a VIP card made. These used to be free of charge, however I believe they have started charging for them now (around 20 USD not cheap but worth the savings you will enjoy, especially if you become a regular). Gromit8 just gave a great detailed breakdown of the current pricing system at FN, as well as what being a VIP entitles you to.
I last visited a week ago, and discovered a 2288 HKD combo, which I found to be quite good. It included:
1. Scrubdown When you enter the Jacuzzi / Sauna / Shower area in FN, you will notice a few hot Asian girls standing around in bikinis. These are the scrub down girls. What happens with a scrub down is one of these girls will take you to a separate shower room with a mattress, lie you face down, and give you a thorough wash / scrub down. They wrap a towel around their first and really go at it. Then they flip you over and repeat. They may tease you a bit with a half ass HJ, but they generally don't finish you off (people claim to have worked wonders with these girls in the past, however I have never managed to).
2. 2 mini-massages When you get to the lounge area, mostly girls and 1 guy, start semi-harassing you for what I like to call mini-massages. A mini-massage is a 15-20 minute massage that you will receive right there in your lounge chair (aside from thigh massage). These include foot massage, hand / arm / shoulder massage, manicure, pedicure, ear cleaning. What happens with thigh massage is a masseuse will take you back to a separate room with a lounge chair, off come your shorts, and she proceeds to massage your legs & thighs, first without oil then with, and sort of tease you with a HJ again without finishing you off (in my experience). As a VIP, you will be entitled to any 2 of these massages. Don't rush into them if you want to take your time. When they start harassing you, tell them later, they leave you alone after a few tries.
3. Shanghai Massage This is a very nice 90 minute massage, provided by a masseuse who knows her shit. You don't get to choose this masseuse. You are taken to a room with a massage table, you remove all your clothes, and she gets started. Very nice, deep tissue massage. Flip over, repeat. This massage does include a HJ to completion. The masseuse doesn't get naked, however she does allow your hands to roam freely (as a matter of fact she encourages it). You get the HJ about 50-60 minutes in. After you pop, she cleans you and herself up and then continues with the massage. Last 15 minutes or so she works on your head. Very nice, very relaxing massage, not to mention getting 1 pop out of the way, you can enjoy yourself longer when you are with your FS girl.
4. FS girl the 2288 HKD combo includes an Asian category girl, which is basically Chinese or Vietnamese. If you decide to go for Star, Model, or European, then you'the have to add the difference to 2288 HKD, whatever that might be. Personally I have a weakness for Vietnamese girls so I only ask to see the Vietnamese girls for the lineup anyways. You make your choice and off you go for your 60 minute session. I won't go into the details of this as it's been discussed many times on this forum before.
Keep in mind, 1-4 is in no particular order. The order is at your discretion. Just double check and confirm with a manager that you want to go for the 2288 HKD combo and make sure what all it includes just so you don't get vamboozled at checkout.
So all that for 2288 HKD, which is roughly 300 USD works for me! Don't get me wrong, it's still expensive, but in a place like Macau, for everything I just listed above, that's as value as it's going to get. If you don't waste on a hotel, use the sauna to the max (I usually get at least 2 meals out of it dinner and breakfast, and I enjoy all the complimentary fresh fruits, juices, teas etc.), 300 bucks is still livable for a night, or two.
Hope this helps.
Using the hotel shuttles is a free and convenient way to get around. From the ferry terminal you can get to almost any major hotel. The Wynn shuttles seem to be the most frequent with a new shuttle showing up at the ferry terminal almost every few minutes during peak times. You can also use the shuttles to get from the Macau side to the Cotai side. My favorite is the Venetian to Sands shuttle which if you are staying on the Cotai side will put you within walking distance of many saunas on the Macau side. A taxi ride from Cotai to Macau will usually cost about 50-70 MOP.
Familia Nobre (FN):
There's a lot of info here already on FN so I will just summarize for the newbies and provide some updated info. Prices have gone up a lot. The current FS prices are as follows (regular / VIP rate):
Super Star (3388/3188).
FS prices include 1 free massage service (foot, shoulder, thigh, etc.) normally priced at 218 or 2 free services if you are VIP member. It costs 188 to sign up for a VIP membership. The free show starts around 1130 so make sure you are in the last section of the lounge near the dining area at that time. Girls rotate 4 times and perform various acts with the final girl performing a 30-45 sec BBBJ. Then a full line up is presented for you to choose for FS. You may decline to choose. Girls work staggered shifts will the first girls available for FS around 1 pm and last call around 7 am. Peak times are 8 pm to 1 am when you will likely get the biggest line-up about (30-40 girls). Like most saunas, you can sleep overnight at FN to save some money. The shared room is all the way at the end of the you shaped hall. Just ask and the hostess can escort you there. There are probably 20-30 bunk beds that are hard as a rock. There will be a bunch of dudes snoring pretty loud. Don't expect luxury. Will feel more like a military barrack. Overall, quality of the girls has slipped a little but still solid. Service was pretty good. FN is still one of the better values in super expensive Macau. Will post more info on Darling, Emperor, East when I feel up to it.
This topic gets covered more in the thailand forum, but I couldn't find much of a discussion here. I used to always just finish in the condom type of guy, but have been enjoying doing a CIM finish lately. In a discussion with friends it seems that pulling out and cuming on the girl's tits or stomachs is a lot more popular than I ever knew. Guess you can't be too old to learn new things, haha. But anyway I wanted to know what other's experiences have been with CIM with the sauna girls? Something they do or hit / miss? Or are they like thai girls and quite cum phobic and will pull off at last minute and make it just a handjob finish? Thanks for sharing.
I recently re-visited Sanua Eighteen "18 Sauna" It is located on the sixth floor of the Golden Dragon Hotel.
I have visited many times in the past with great memories, but, I have not been for several years. While is was nice to see some familiar staff and acquaintances, that is where it ended.
I sincerely wished I had not visited and left my prior memories intact. What I experienced was a major disappointment.
There was no chance to relax. The staff was extremely pushy from the beginning. I was stormed and solicited for tips constantly. I fraught my way through the hordes to the lounge area to spend some time and wait for the line up. In the lounge my wing-man and I were surrounded instantly by no less then 15 people that would not take no for an answer in their offering of the many spa services. We each ended up surrounded by five or six massage girls. Each girl took a foot; leg, head, shoulder etc. I had to push away a couple massage guys. LOL. The massage was not at all relaxing. The exception was the infamous thigh massage. After all what not to like about a thigh massage?
When the music started signaling the beginning of the lineup we moved to the staging area and watched the girls on the raised area. It has not changed in routine. Five or six girls who preform a snuffle dance with various degrees of enthusiasm, ending in stripping and running for cover once the music stops.
The lineup was disappointing. There were maybe 35-40 girls, mostly older and ordinary. The exception were about 5 Korean girls that were priced at $4,000 HKD and came highly recommended. But, for a little over $500 USD the answer was a no go for me.
Bottom line, my two friends and I were not inspired to meet the talent and decided to leave.
The total for three guys. Tips, 1/5 hour lounge massage only. Some food and soda. About $ 3,000+ HKD or over $385+.
Hotel where 18 is located. Golden Sauna is indeed verbatim. I am trying Golden Sauna in November, after prior tries at Beverly, 18, Rio, FN. As long as they have inexpensive thing massage!
I got to FN at around 10 PM and requested to see the girls first. There were around 7 girls from Vietnam, 1 from Africa, 3 Russian, 2 Koreans and 7-8 Chinese.
Cheapest was the Vietnamese then the Chinese. The Chinese were fairly good but I was really looking for Viet. Got one for 2200++ HKD. Service was OK but very mechanical. Speaks basic Mandarin, no English.
Went back to East Spa for the 3rd straight year. This year's selection was definitely the best, not to mention they added Viet girls one of which I got. Extremely satisfied with her service, very pretty and very professional. Speaks both Mandarin and English very well. Sensible to talk to as well. Price is the same but I got this for free since it was for "business". On top of mostly Chinese girls, they also have a few Koreans as well.
Yes, Golden is small, and quite crowded. But that's what I like about it, it's more lively. At Rio, for instance, it's huge, quite empty and lacks atmosphere.
IMHO. To each his own.
I agree with you. Saunas tend to be terrible during the daytime, with the exception of Darling 1, which has staff 24 hours. By the way, you mention going to Darling 2 in the Masters Hotel. Don't you mean Darling 1? That is the one within Masters Hotel.
Glad to hear you had a good experience at Golden Sauna. Personally, I find their sauna to be too small (like Eighteen) and the women to be too suffocating as they try to get you to choose them. Also, I would say they tend not to look as good as FN.
Yes. Don't go to FN during day time, boring. Same at Golden, where girls come out and hang on in the lounge between parades.
Name is Golden sauna, I think, not golden dragon. Anyway there is only one sauna with golden in its name.
Vast section, lots of 7-8. I don't recall exactly the price, but less than 2000.
Recent One Night Experience in Macau
First had a real nasty experience while getting Visa On arrival at the immigration counter. Had to show them enough cash, return ticket, hotel voucher. Then only they cleared. I think there had been many illegal migrants recently from India so they have made the process more strict for Indians.
Anyways after checking into hotel, went out for the xploration.
Went to Golden Sauna this time first. The xperience was very good infact.
Straight to locker area, packed all stuff, given a pair of slipper and towel went to the Japanese style shower area, gone for it. The bath was given by somewhat not so good looking girls, had to sit on a you shaped chair, first facing font and then reverse, and standing on both sides. They give a real good bath and shower from top to bottom and give you a good hard on twice. It must be around 10- 15 minutes session. One more thing, there were other two naked Chinese men getting the bath nearby. So all naked men nearby, just to keep all informed. No separate cubicles or bathrooms here.
Real nice Cost 128 MOP. There were two tubs nearby if anyone wish can take a dip in those. I didnot.
Then I went to the lounge area where there were many recliners. Was alloted one. Lied down was covered with a towel. Asked for drinks, food. Got it in a moment.
There were all Chinese men around all enjoying. One can also carry their mobile phones inside. If you want them to charge your mobile, they have special lockable lockers with chargers for all type of mobile phones too.
Someone or other person called for the line up every 15- 20 minutes. There were not many too good options although seemed to be average. All were mostly Asians (Chinese, Thai, Vietnam). I didnot see a single European girl.
Then gone for the head massage which was just average. Cost 128 MOP. Then gone for the Famous Thigh massage. Girls were not so hot, but the massage was quite good. It was done inside the towel in the lounge itself. No private rooms.
Then selected a Tall Chinese cutie (5-7) No 100. I liked her very much Name I think is Honey. Perfect figure, Medium sized natural boobs. Went to the rooms downstairs. Rooms were good ceiling mirrored.
In the room had a real nice experience. First was taken to the shower room where there was a S shaped bed where I had to first lie in the doggy position and she gave a very good bath to the back side including the jewels and anal region. She also gave an awesome boob massage. It was followed by a slow erotic rimming, teabagging and awesome BJ. The best experience I ever had.
After that was asked to lie on back and same thing to the front side.
After drying up, went to the room. Again she started from lip kiss to kissing nipples, chest, abdomen and then a repeat of BJ, teabagging, rimming. Real awesome experience.
Then she put on the condom and started riding me Cowgirl. After a good 10 minutes. I asked her to lie down, Pumped her in Missionary, then Doggy. Lastly asked her to again come on top Reverse Cowgirl and finished in the position.
After that we cuddled and lied down together for another 15 minutes. She literally slept in my arms. I had to wake her up. She must be sleep deprived. I told her You are very beautiful. She instantly told me then why don't you take me to your Home? I had no answer. I thought, if really I had that option could have gone for it.
Anyways end of a very good session. Came out. Gone to the locker area, hanged, paid and ca, me out.
Total bill around 1800 MOP + 300 cash to be given to girl directly (had to go to locker area inbetween to bring the cash). Girls Full session cost 1100+ 300=1400 MOP.
Next headed to MGM Casino till 5 AM in morning played some slot machines, etc gone to hotel and rested till 10.
Again at 11 am before leaving thought of having another experience. Checked out of Hotel and headed to the Famous Ho Moon (Familia Nobre Saune). It was a bad decision. Reached there by 12 Noon. Didn't bother to see the line up (Again bad decision), went direcly to locker area, changed gone to tub area. No girl available for bath took shower myself and went to changing area there was also no one had to wait and call for someone then was given the short and dress.
Went to the Rest area-lounge. There were 3-4 other Asian men resting. No girls at all. After having fruits and tea, I asked where are the girls. The manager said only one available for massage. So had no option selected one for a head massage. Then asked for line up they say only 1 Thai was available. My God, My last experience a month before was so good. I thought the timing is not right. Last time I was here at midnight and this time I am here at noon. I left immediately All 700 MOP gone in Vain 650 MOP entry, what a waste. I had to catch a ferry at 2 PM.
Immediately left to hotel for collecting luggage. In front of Hotel I saw the darling 2 in the Masters Hotel. Thought of giving a good try.
So the Darling2 experience (Hurried one):
Entered the Masters Hotel, went inside then Lift and Ithing 2nd Floor the Darling massage.
Went in Oh there was a Fish Bowl (reminded me of Annies in Bangkok). Selected one Thai No 11 (Name Oh), tall, good figure good boobs.
Had to pay 1200 MOP at the front desk in advance and 500 to be paid in cash to the girl in the room Total cost 1700 MOP.
Went inside the rooms. Rooms were good. Full mirrored ceiling. She went to start water in the bathtub, cam eto me asked me to get in my birthsuit. CGave me a good oil massage including body to body boobie massage. Then went to bath tub where she washed each and every part od my body including BJ. Both side, then standing shower. Came back to bed had a nice session, all positions, awesome blowjob with listering in mouth or hot water in mouth I don't know butthe feeling was great. Put on the condom. Then riding in all positions, doggy, finished again in revere CW.
I then went for a quick self showr washed everything changed and went away as I was in a hurry to catch Ferry to Hongkong airport as I had my Flight at 7 pm.
Hope the recent experience will give all an updated account of these two places at least.
Lesson learnt: never enter the Sauna without seeing the available Line up or you will be ripped apart a sme what happened in Familia Nobre sauna.
Is that Sauna 18 you're referring to? I saw the parade once but the girls didn't hang around to chat after.
Went into Darling #1 a couple of times last week during afternoon / evening hours and saw this hot looking #325 (I think she's Vietnamese). Very hot face and great body. Well proportioned, but not super skinny nor chubby. Just right for my tastes. Very friendly with a great attitude, and felt very GFE with eventual DFK. Highly recommend if that's something you like, though I wouldn't recommend if you're only interested in over the top PSE. Good energy level throughout and makes you leave feeling like you were well taken care of. Liked her so much that I chose her again for a second time, which was even better and more GFE. All in all, I think D1 is the place to go unless you want to spend hours in a KTV salon, which is not really my thing.
How much did you pay for the Viet in Golden Dragon? How was the selection?