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  1. #15233
    Quote Originally Posted by *****man  [View Original Post]
    Let's not make a big thing about small details but the French letter-r is a guttural sound different from the English letter-r. And what's transliterated with a 'k' in Thai is different from the English 'k'. So what's written in Thai is just the best available transliteration of the French word.
    Sometimes the "best available" for French words is a little weird, I grant you. Here is the Thai name for Merci

    https://goo.gl/maps/8MCMK66K5jF2

    แมคฃี
    M-ae-k-s-ee. The 3rd letter is called Khor Khwai. It is exactly like an English K. On the start of a syllable Khor Khwai is usually shown as "Kh" meaning it is an Aspirated "K" (normal for English). At end of a syllable, the aspiration is dropped in Thai, and English does the same, especially when followed by an "s" sound.

    Only the vowel sound "ae" is different to English. This Thai word sounds very close to how we would pronounce Maxi, however the Thais pronounce the "a" sound a bit longer than some English speakers, perhaps Americans stretch it enough. Thais tend to emphasize the last syllable.

    It is clear to me that the Thai's are calling this Place "Maxi" or "Mack-see". That is what the Thai script is showing. Maybe that is the closest to French Merci, some Thai person could envisage. They could have made it same as in English word Mercy if they wanted to. I imagine that if I ask a Taxi driver to go to Merci, he won't understand, if I ask to go to Mack-see (Maxi) he might know it.

    It is true that French words transliterated into Thai, tend to come out completely different.
    As example there is a Bangkok road called Henri Dunant next to Lumphini park.
    So what do the Thais call it? Ang-ree-Doo-nang (with a silent 't" added to the end). I probably cannot pronounce it the French way, so I use the Thai way.

    If I ask a taxi driver to go to the Indra-Regent Hotel he won't understand. I have to use the Thai way, and say the Intrar Hotel.

    I have not yet worked out what Thais call Ocean massage, possibly Oh-sian (close to English word). Easier than Colonze 2 (khoh-lawn-SAY in Thai) still appearing on Google Maps as well as Ocean marker (slightly off position). It also seems to be known as Crystal Resort in Thai (sounds like Kris-tan) and the building was once called the Crystal Hotel.

    Right now if I want a cheap fuck, I am probably going to do an Ocean girl for 1700 or try a Street walker outside Nana Hotel. I am (like you) worried about meeting severe baby damage. I can handle a few stretch marks, or a minor scar, but severely warped saggy shrivelled surfaces with railway tracks is not going to work for me. Very saggy or mis-shaped tits is not really my favourite thing either (occasionally able to ignore if I really like the girl).

    The perfect Soapy club for me, would have a lounge for mingling and drinking with nude girls (to assess chemistry and figure), or perhaps wearing G-string only (tits exposure a must) since Thai authorities do not accept full nudity, possibly a small dance floor, and then take the girls away to a soapy room. A Cross between Crazy House and The Lord. LOL A Crazy thought perhaps, but why not? It would be the Thai version of a German FKK club. I am not keen on Soapies having girls sitting down in the line up. Hard to see the shape of their asses. Over the years accidentally chose some ugly assed girls.

    One of the very few good things at Annies, was they asked the girls in the line up to stand. Then they sat down far to quickly before I had a chance to survey the figures probably. Blink and I could have missed it altogether. So Annies is not a true Soapy for me, in the traditional style. Not enough time to choose a girl at your leisure. Annies, to me, is like a glorified Oily MP, having a crappy body slide mat in a space too small for tall guys, and a silly unnecessary fishbowl. Plenty of Japanese Oilies have a bath tub. Girls are standing in Oily MP line ups. This is a good thing.

  2. #15232
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Ended up having a look at other shops. Can Cam in Soi24/1 had a very cute girl outside. I would not have gone inside looking since I never heard of this shop.

    Male recptionist was Japanese, but he had some English. Ha Ha. I asked the girl if was scared of Farangs. She have a big grin and said no. Turns out her skin shade is slightly too dark to be Spec for asian guys, however her face was light maybe good makeup, and extremely cute. I could see she had sillies, but body was generally good, so decided to put up with sillies. Name was May. No numbers for girls. Upturned nose, narrow face, big black eyebrows. Small waist, no sag anywhere or mybe slight ass sag but not noticable.

    Room was very nice standard. Would shit on SW rooms for elegance and size. They even had a big blowup mattress for the massage but no Nuru. Oil or Gel. May got undressed. Had a bit or Bush for those who don't like shaved, but trimmed short. No special action in the bath. She said she liked big dick. I hardly ever hear that so was encouraged.

    On mattress she gave a very nice massage lightly. I asked her to swith to body to body with lots of gel and use her big tits enhanced and cute ass. She did well sliding on me. Her pussy felt very soft sliding on me too. At one point my dick accidently slid straight into her pussy maybe 2 inches. We both pretended nothing happened. She had kissed reluctantly at first but was now starting to open mouth a little and give a little tongue.

    In the bed she was not scared. Into it big time. Selected position ith my legs on the outside to get maximum action on her pussy. She was looking for an orgasm and did indeed get there. She then suggested we could cum together when I am ready if possible. Her kissing had improved by now. Licking her tongue was allowed.

    I just remebered that we had so much fun in the sliding part with her tits on my balls, that I forgot to ask for a BBBJ. Only did a short DATY.

    Her pussy was perfection for me. Could take it all. Maybe not the tighest girl around.
    .
    The above post was August 2015. May returned to Can Cam Massage two months ago after a two year absence. She does not really look like her web pic. Her mother won't recognise her maybe. So at first did not know I was booking a girl I did nearly two years ago. Always intended to repeat but she had disappeared.

    Web pic is horizontally stretched. Real girl is slimmer in face and body, darker skin, implants and also a nose job but a fairly good one, probably won't bother most. Good fun girl for a Nuru massage. Not scared of cock. Only LFK. Good sexy Nuru slide. Has significant pubic hair but not long.

    I noticed Can Cam has several pretty girls. Worth a look. I also like the look of Yaem and a darker skinned girl. In contrast girls sitting outside at Candy nearby were so ugly.

    Web site pics are not always realistic as we know so well.

  3. #15231
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    You could also go to nearby Ocean and spend 1700 Baht for 90 minutes with a girl plus drinks and tips. It's your money.

    2 weeks ago at 7. 30 PM, I did see some absolute stunning girls, at The Lord. The best thing for you to do, is visit there and see if you think any girls are worth the money. There may be other places with very stunning girls also, at high prices, but the The Lord is generally considered to be the absolute Top place, and probably the top prices.

    Here is an out of date Price List to make you aware of lots of other Soapies:

    http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/pricelist.php
    BTW, is Ocean and Colonze 2 the same?

  4. #15230
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    There is no really good web site for The Lord.

    Make do with that one or this one:

    http://bangkokmassageparlors.com/the...ngkok-massage/

    http://www.massageprices.com/listing...sage-ratchada/

    Prices quoted "4,300-7,800฿ for 90 minutes" but could be out of date. I believe that is without the Farang surcharge of 500 Baht.

    So for Farang the lowest price level girls level are maybe 4800, I can't be sure now, as did not memorise all prices.

    I don't know Zam007 if you are Farang or East Asian or what..
    I am mix, my grand parents met in London, grandmother is an Indian, and grandpa is an Italian.

    Indians think I am an Italian, and Italians think I am an Indian.

    Who know what the Thais think! Lets find out!

    Thanks a lot for the advice.

    You have a good point about Escorts.

    I will be there for few days so I will try the escorts through smooci. And then decide if that has satisfied my lust! At least for now.

    I will check out Lord and Ocean.

    Thanks once again.

    Can't wait to land there!

  5. #15229
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    My target Oily girl was absent today so went to Ratchadaa instead.

    Soapies is a big risk for me for two main reasons. Higher Class have nose jobs 90%. Also many girls are used to Asian customers not so much Farang. This means they have low stamina for a decent duration fuck and often dick scared as well. This means a low percentage of girls are worth repeating.

    Get off MRT at Cultural Centre. 20 Baht motorcycle to The Lord. Its 4. 30 pm. The line up is a bit small. 15 girls tops. Too early or too close to Songkran? Several beautiful girls but spoiled by nose opps. No wrar near the large line up I saw at 7. 30 pm on a previous occasion. One or two girls borderline nearly a pick but for that high money 4800 and up there is fear of missing a stunner that has not yet come out to the line up.

    Decided to come back later and look in some other places.

    Went to Ocean. Was once Colonze 2. About 20 girls. Prices start at 1700 no Farang surcharge. Next level 2100 then 2600 and 2800. The price bears no reasemblence to the appeal of the girls. There is no upstairs section at least not at this time. I saw the upstairs section on way out but it was empty.

    At 1700 this is as cheap as Nana parking lot if you have to pay for a ST hotel. No 302 was cutish so I decided to risk it. Name is escaping me right now. All natural aged 21 no baby. Good tight ass, conical tits maybe almost a Bcup.

    Mucked around did not do much in the bath. Only 2 weeks experience. Has a Singapore BF.

    No real kissing but she enjoyed DATY okay BBBJ quite reasonable. Moderately tight pussy felt superb for sex. Even though going very soft and slow she was complaining about the size from time to time. Changed to other positions including doggy. All great. Eventually her stamina gave out and switched to BBBJ again which was pretty good once she undertstood how I liked it.

    Was satisfied but would not repeat due to lack of kissing and lack of stamina. On way out the line up had become at least 25 and there were others I could do. Not so many nose jobs. I will definitely return. At 1700 the risk is not so high.

    Looked in The Lord again at 6. 30 pm. Had not improved. Could do number O2 at 2nd lowest price.

    Peeked in Merci (also called Maeksee in Thai). Line up was smaller than Ocean. Perhaps 2 girls doable for me.

    Looked in Hi Class. Large line up of 25+ girls. All ugly. Definitely lower standard than all other shops looked in.

    Probably no need to return there. Call it Low Class or Sub Class.

    Emmanuelle. Maybe 25 girls. No one really stunning. One would interest me. Almost every girl with nose job except a couple of ugly ones. Like the Lord, line up was way better a couple of weeks ago.

    Next visit I may leave it till 7 PM. However line ups depleted due to girls away in other provinces.

    Ocean impressed the most for natural girls and value for money. The Lord has super stunners at times but quite expensive.

    May use body slide girls at Emmanuelle.

    All the girls at the Lord had straight hair but spiral curled styled ends. A bit boring however at least they are much higher standard of looks than Baccara bar in Cowboy. Will return when line up is large. I remember K35 was stunning the previous time among others. K level is very expensive so I must wait for the super stunner. The levels are something like R O M K L X XL with R cheapest at maybe 4800? Forget exactly.
    Great report. Ocean and The Lord are next on my to do list. Glad to see you reporting on more of your sessions!

  6. #15228
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    I can see that French pronounce the Mer differently to English speakers. So Mae-see could be somewhat close in Thai. However adding the letter K sound in Thai is a mystery to me. So nearest English work to Thai Maeksee should be Maxi.

    I will just remember to call it Maxi when speaking to Thais in line with what I heard one or two of them them call it, if I go there. Have not yet developed a special liking for it, but will still check the girls in there if in the vicinity I guess.
    Let's not make a big thing about small details but the French letter-r is a guttural sound different from the English letter-r. And what's transliterated with a 'k' in Thai is different from the English 'k'. So what's written in Thai is just the best available transliteration of the French word.

  7. #15227
    Quote Originally Posted by *****man  [View Original Post]
    BTW if you pronounce merci with a French accent it sounds something like the way it's been transliterated in Thai, so no real mystery there.
    I can see that French pronounce the Mer differently to English speakers. So Mae-see could be somewhat close in Thai. However adding the letter K sound in Thai is a mystery to me. So nearest English work to Thai Maeksee should be Maxi.

    I will just remember to call it Maxi when speaking to Thais in line with what I heard one or two of them them call it, if I go there. Have not yet developed a special liking for it, but will still check the girls in there if in the vicinity I guess.

  8. #15226
    Quote Originally Posted by Zam007  [View Original Post]
    Greetings,

    Thanks for your excellent input. I really value your contributions to this thread, I have been following a lot of posts you made and I appreciate how much time you take to update which is saving us so much time and money. I am kinda new to this. I am still young, I can get girls but my lust has grown to a level normal girls can't provide. I love erotic massages but the looks of the girls are very important for me. I don't mind paying more.

    I will repay everyone here once I arrive in Thailand and I will post my reviews.

    Could you please confirm Lord's website is this http://www.thelord2009.com ?

    I am not able to see the pictures of the girls. Do you mean the girls in 'The Lord' are the best looking ones?

    Could you tell how much can I spend on them?

    Thanks a lot.
    There is no really good web site for The Lord.

    Make do with that one or this one:

    http://bangkokmassageparlors.com/the...ngkok-massage/

    http://www.massageprices.com/listing...sage-ratchada/

    Prices quoted "4,300-7,800฿ for 90 minutes" but could be out of date. I believe that is without the Farang surcharge of 500 Baht.

    So for Farang the lowest price level girls level are maybe 4800, I can't be sure now, as did not memorise all prices.

    I don't know Zam007 if you are Farang or East Asian or what.

    So be aware that for the price you drop for a "The Lord" girl for 90 minutes, you could get a girl from elsewhere for the entire night. You could also get an Escort girl on Smooci cheaper that is will to do porn star things for extra money. You could also go to nearby Ocean and spend 1700 Baht for 90 minutes with a girl plus drinks and tips. It's your money.

    2 weeks ago at 7. 30 PM, I did see some absolute stunning girls, at The Lord. The best thing for you to do, is visit there and see if you think any girls are worth the money. There may be other places with very stunning girls also, at high prices, but the The Lord is generally considered to be the absolute Top place, and probably the top prices.

    Here is an out of date Price List to make you aware of lots of other Soapies:

    http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/pricelist.php

  9. #15225
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    I met the ladyboy mamasan named Aem. She was very friendly and nice with me. I probably joked a little with her. I don't recall asing any questions except the prices and were there special girls upstairs. I guess I got lucky the girl had no baby but she was young probably 21.

    The place is bothing like the old Colonze 2 (from 10 years back) in terms of where meet the girls. At that time body slide and cheap girls were on a raised area and side line girls to the left and fewer girls.
    S / he only becomes unfriendly when you leave without choosing a girl. You've just got to ignore these things I suppose. The place was definitely refurbished before changing its name. I read reports of rooms being in poor condition but when I first went there in 2013 they were good.

    BTW if you pronounce merci with a French accent it sounds something like the way it's been transliterated in Thai, so no real mystery there.

  10. #15224
    Quote Originally Posted by *****man  [View Original Post]
    It sounds like apart from the name not much has changed. Is it still the cheaper girls on the left and the more expensive ones on the right? I never chose a 1700 baht girl as I'd always assumed for such a low price they must have babies. Now you say otherwise I'll definitely go back there and choose one. The only bad thing about the place and the reason I haven't been there in the past year or so is that the papasans were really grumpy. One a ladyboy and the other a grumpy oldish man. Are they still there?
    I met the ladyboy mamasan named Aem. She was very friendly and nice with me. I probably joked a little with her. I don't recall asing any questions except the prices and were there special girls upstairs. I guess I got lucky the girl had no baby but she was young probably 21.

    The place is bothing like the old Colonze 2 (from 10 years back) in terms of where meet the girls. At that time body slide and cheap girls were on a raised area and side line girls to the left and fewer girls.

    Yes the 1700 girls were in the left today. My girl had a fairly good body. Skin a bit darker than me and I am white but not that white. So that make her too dark for Thai men. Indicated most customers are not Farang though. I did not ask for or get any anal or CIM however at least was good BBBJ for my style which is soft and slow.

    The girl suggested that she only gets 800 out of the 1700 which I have no verification but I felt pity and tipped her a bit since she made a good effort at times and finished with a pretty good BBBJ, where she seemed to have some special tongue skill making action just below the knob, toward the end, or maybe I just didn't have a girl too long. LOL Anyway made me cum easier than usual.

    The girl had actually misunderstood my question, when she answered 800, so I asked again. I was actually asking how long I get for the 1700 which was 90 minutes. She must have OK English I guess to talk to her Singapore BF, but I did not test it.

    I thought Ocean seemed a bit better than Merci for size of line up and the price, and should be a larger place, however will always depend on if there are particular girls that look cute to me.

    I used to like Bangkok Cosy because they had exceptionally cheap girls like 1200 or 1400 forget now. However Ocean comes close to that. Definitely an option for those that are sick on Annies and Darling down on Sukhumvit, but don't expect PSE girls of course.

  11. #15223
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    My target Oily girl was absent today so went to Ratchadaa instead.


    Ocean impressed the most for natural girls and value for money. The Lord has super stunners at times but quite expensive.

    May use body slide girls at Emmanuelle.

    All the girls at the Lord had straight hair but spiral curled styled ends. A bit boring however at least they are much higher standard of looks than Baccara bar in Cowboy. Will return when line up is large. I remember K35 was stunning the previous time among others. K level is very expensive so I must wait for the super stunner. The levels are something like R O M K L X XL with R cheapest at maybe 4800? Forget exactly.
    Greetings,

    Thanks for your excellent input. I really value your contributions to this thread, I have been following a lot of posts you made and I appreciate how much time you take to update which is saving us so much time and money. I am kinda new to this. I am still young, I can get girls but my lust has grown to a level normal girls can't provide. I love erotic massages but the looks of the girls are very important for me. I don't mind paying more.

    I will repay everyone here once I arrive in Thailand and I will post my reviews.

    Could you please confirm Lord's website is this http://www.thelord2009.com ?

    I am not able to see the pictures of the girls. Do you mean the girls in 'The Lord' are the best looking ones?

    Could you tell how much can I spend on them?

    Thanks a lot.

  12. #15222
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]

    Went to Ocean. Was once Colonze 2. About 20 girls. Prices start at 1700 no Farang surcharge. Next level 2100 then 2600 and 2800. The price bears no reasemblence to the appeal of the girls. There is no upstairs section at least not at this time. I saw the upstairs section on way out but it was empty.
    It sounds like apart from the name not much has changed. Is it still the cheaper girls on the left and the more expensive ones on the right? I never chose a 1700 baht girl as I'd always assumed for such a low price they must have babies. Now you say otherwise I'll definitely go back there and choose one. The only bad thing about the place and the reason I haven't been there in the past year or so is that the papasans were really grumpy. One a ladyboy and the other a grumpy oldish man. Are they still there?

  13. #15221

    Soapies Survey mini

    My target Oily girl was absent today so went to Ratchadaa instead.

    Soapies is a big risk for me for two main reasons. Higher Class have nose jobs 90%. Also many girls are used to Asian customers not so much Farang. This means they have low stamina for a decent duration fuck and often dick scared as well. This means a low percentage of girls are worth repeating.

    Get off MRT at Cultural Centre. 20 Baht motorcycle to The Lord. Its 4. 30 pm. The line up is a bit small. 15 girls tops. Too early or too close to Songkran? Several beautiful girls but spoiled by nose opps. No wrar near the large line up I saw at 7. 30 pm on a previous occasion. One or two girls borderline nearly a pick but for that high money 4800 and up there is fear of missing a stunner that has not yet come out to the line up.

    Decided to come back later and look in some other places.

    Went to Ocean. Was once Colonze 2. About 20 girls. Prices start at 1700 no Farang surcharge. Next level 2100 then 2600 and 2800. The price bears no reasemblence to the appeal of the girls. There is no upstairs section at least not at this time. I saw the upstairs section on way out but it was empty.

    At 1700 this is as cheap as Nana parking lot if you have to pay for a ST hotel. No 302 was cutish so I decided to risk it. Name is escaping me right now. All natural aged 21 no baby. Good tight ass, conical tits maybe almost a Bcup.

    Mucked around did not do much in the bath. Only 2 weeks experience. Has a Singapore BF.

    No real kissing but she enjoyed DATY okay BBBJ quite reasonable. Moderately tight pussy felt superb for sex. Even though going very soft and slow she was complaining about the size from time to time. Changed to other positions including doggy. All great. Eventually her stamina gave out and switched to BBBJ again which was pretty good once she undertstood how I liked it.

    Was satisfied but would not repeat due to lack of kissing and lack of stamina. On way out the line up had become at least 25 and there were others I could do. Not so many nose jobs. I will definitely return. At 1700 the risk is not so high.

    Looked in The Lord again at 6. 30 pm. Had not improved. Could do number O2 at 2nd lowest price.

    Peeked in Merci (also called Maeksee in Thai). Line up was smaller than Ocean. Perhaps 2 girls doable for me.

    Looked in Hi Class. Large line up of 25+ girls. All ugly. Definitely lower standard than all other shops looked in.

    Probably no need to return there. Call it Low Class or Sub Class.

    Emmanuelle. Maybe 25 girls. No one really stunning. One would interest me. Almost every girl with nose job except a couple of ugly ones. Like the Lord, line up was way better a couple of weeks ago.

    Next visit I may leave it till 7 PM. However line ups depleted due to girls away in other provinces.

    Ocean impressed the most for natural girls and value for money. The Lord has super stunners at times but quite expensive.

    May use body slide girls at Emmanuelle.

    All the girls at the Lord had straight hair but spiral curled styled ends. A bit boring however at least they are much higher standard of looks than Baccara bar in Cowboy. Will return when line up is large. I remember K35 was stunning the previous time among others. K level is very expensive so I must wait for the super stunner. The levels are something like R O M K L X XL with R cheapest at maybe 4800? Forget exactly.

  14. #15220
    Quote Originally Posted by *****man  [View Original Post]
    Hardly a good report is it? The fact that they even employ a girl like that is reason enough to avoid the shop if you're specifically looking for good service. And the fact that there's a report of a 'girl' (looks old by MP standards) begging for a tip adds to that. Why run the risk of mediocre to awful service or old ladies begging for a tip when there are so many places around where you're almost guaranteed good service?

    Feel free to go there yourself and let us know how it went though.
    Agreed. Shame we in BKK are not having experiences like this for prices like this. Buddy just came back from Jakarta. He rarely partakes in BKK anymore despite living here. Same sort of reviews from him as seen in the report below.

    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...835&viewfull=1#post2024835.

  15. #15219
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Yes, fair enough to read all the reviews.

    One bad experience from one girl, who thought she knows you when she said "roojak" (she may have been mistaken), and yet other guys gave the same girl a good review. That is not really a reason to avoid a shop completely. Over reaction.

    I even had a really poor clueless girl at Tulip once. Can't recall the name now. The one with numerous vaginal warts.

    I agree we have to take all the reviews related to a place into consideration, since others may have had a good time. Chemistry sometimes matters a lot.

    I once had a great time with a girl called Guitar at one of the Japanese shops off Soi 19, including fucking her of the airbed used for body slide. Unfortunately she did not last, as was always late to work, travelling from far. The other girls were not interesting (not pretty enough). It's more about particular individual girls than about the shop, in my view. I hardly ever say to avoid a particular shop, unless the management really make it unbearable.
    Quote Originally Posted by AsianRain  [View Original Post]
    I was QUITE CLEAR that I was UNHAPPY about her service (the demand for CBJ after I gave her DATY where she orgasmed was one of the most off-putting experiences I have had at an oily) and not impressed with the facilities.
    Hardly a good report is it? The fact that they even employ a girl like that is reason enough to avoid the shop if you're specifically looking for good service. And the fact that there's a report of a 'girl' (looks old by MP standards) begging for a tip adds to that. Why run the risk of mediocre to awful service or old ladies begging for a tip when there are so many places around where you're almost guaranteed good service?

    Feel free to go there yourself and let us know how it went though.

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