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  1. #15536
    Quote Originally Posted by Canyon  [View Original Post]
    Natty:

    I took your advice and visited the Lord yesterday. You're right about the upscale feeling. All the furniture and decorations are very nice and project an aura of elegance. The staff was also very helpful. The girls were very attractive for the most part. There were about 20 to choose from when I was there around 5 pm on Thursday. Of the 20 ladies, two were stunning and I had a hard time making a decision. I finally picked Ning (M-24) whose rate was 5,800 baht. She was young and slim with a very pretty face. I was really excited about my session with her.

    In the room, she started drawing the water right away in a tub that had already been half-filled-just as Natty described. I undressed while she got ready. It was with eager anticipation that I got into the tub. That was the high point of the encounter. It was all down hill from there.

    I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub. She began a very mechanical blowjob. Usually, the BJ is one of my favorite things, but in this case, I didn't really enjoy it. She sucked me, but there was just no feeling behind it. After a while, she started washing me, but again, it was very mechanical and inspired no feeling.

    Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. She didn't respond to my initiatives, but just took control. She did give me another BJ on the bed, but again it was very mechanical and did not feel very good. By this time, I was having trouble maintaining my erection. (To be fair, I had just had a long, energetic and enjoyable sex session the previous day, so I was not as horny, as I otherwise might have been.).

    In an effort to get a hard-on, I turned her over on her stomach and placed my cock in the crack on her bottom. This gave me a mild erection. After that, she sucked me some more, I got a little harder, and finally stuck my cock in her pussy. It was not a pleasant experience and I felt that she was just going through the motions. After about an hour in the room, she said we should shower. We were only in the room for 60 minutes, so she definitely shorted me 30 minutes of the agreed 90 minutes.

    This was the worst experience I had in Bangkok this trip, and one of the worst experiences I have had in Bangkok. My experiences at LaBelle have been much better.

    Natty, I want to make it clear that I'm not blaming you for the bad experience at the Lord. This is only one session with one girl, so it's not a statistically valid sample. I'm just reporting on the disappointing experience. I'm posting this, so people can see that there's no guarantee of a good session at the Lord. YMMV.

    My advice is to avoid the siren song of Ning (M-24) and her price of 5,800 baht. She's certainly a beauty, but not a warm person.
    What really amazes me about places like the Lord is that there is even a question about the level of service. At that price point you should have a very good looking gal, who has an amazing skill set and performs like a porn star. And they probably would, if the punters were demanding it. What makes the BKK P4 P scene different from places like HK and Jakarta is the local men in those locales are far more demanding. Look at your phone or don't check off all the boxes at a HK knocking shop then the mamasan will get an earful from the customer. Have a gal working whose body has been completely ravaged by childbirth and the locals just won't put up with it. The average local and foreign punter in Thailand is just not that demanding. And I would say has gotten less and less demanding over the years I have been here. I'd be screaming bloody murder if I would have spent that kind of money and received that type of service. On the other hand, if the gals were all on the same page with the three points I listed above I would have no problem paying that amount. But rolling the dice with that kind of cash? Absolutely not. We at least not for me. I'd rather spend the money on a new pair of Japanese denim.

  2. #15535
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    The problem with choosing based on smile and eye contact is that some women do that just to hook you into choosing them, not that they want to go with you and give you a good time. At soapies and oilies, I never choose someone without first asking them to sit with me and discuss what we can do in the room. As an example, in Sabai Room in Pattaya, I saw a girl I liked who smiled at me. I asked the papasan to have her come talk to me. She came and I inquired if she spoke English, which she did, and asked her if she kissed. She said no. I told her that I couldn't fuck without kissing but she still said no, so I thanked her and left, probably much to her (and the papasan"s) surprise. However, had I not asked, I probably would have been stuck with a session I didn't want.
    I think you are right Jimmy. Sitting with a girl you are thinking of taking upstairs and breaking the ice with her before making your final decision is a good idea. In top end Jakarta brothels like Malioboro and Alexis Hotel this type of interaction between participants is encouraged and I always take advantage of it. It works like this: the mamasan will bring 10, 20, 40, or however many girls she has to where you are seated. If you pick a girl or girls, the rest are dismissed and the mamasan or papasan will leave the two or three of you alone for a while. Then she will come back and ask if you have made a decision.

    For some reason, this is not how it is done for single customers in BKK soapies per say, but that does not mean you can't do it. You should. Just tell the host or hostess to leave you alone for a while with the girl you have called down from the fishbowl so the two of you can talk. At the Lord, for example, there are plenty of plush chairs and tables scattered around the large lobby so you can order drinks and have semi private conversations. But unlike you, I never discuss specifics with a girl. I feel it harms the vibe I am trying to establish. To each his own.

  3. #15534
    Quote Originally Posted by Canyon  [View Original Post]
    Natty:

    I took your advice and visited the Lord yesterday. You're right about the upscale feeling. All the furniture and decorations are very nice and project an aura of elegance. The staff was also very helpful. The girls were very attractive for the most part. There were about 20 to choose from when I was there around 5 pm on Thursday. Of the 20 ladies, two were stunning and I had a hard time making a decision. I finally picked Ning (M-24) whose rate was 5,800 baht. She was young and slim with a very pretty face. I was really excited about my session with her.

    In the room, she started drawing the water right away in a tub that had already been half-filled-just as Natty described. I undressed while she got ready. It was with eager anticipation that I got into the tub. That was the high point of the encounter. It was all downhill from there.

    I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub. She began a very mechanical blowjob.
    Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. She didn't respond to my initiatives, but just took control. She did give me another BJ on the bed, but again it was very mechanical and did not feel very good. By this time, I was having trouble maintaining my erection. (To be fair, I had just had a long, energetic and enjoyable sex session the previous day, so I was not as horny, as I otherwise might have been.).
    This was the worst experience I had in Bangkok this trip, and one of the worst experiences I have had in Bangkok. My experiences at LaBelle have been much better.

    I'm posting this, so people can see that there's no guarantee of a good session at the Lord. YMMV.

    My advice is to avoid the siren song of Ning (M-24) and her price of 5,800 baht. She's certainly a beauty, but not a warm person.
    I am really sorry to hear about your awful experience at the Lord. I gave very high marks to the Lord based on my last 7 romps, but as you and others point out, YMMV. Perhaps I received above average returns at the Lord and my score will revert to the mean in a few more visits. I sure hope not!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure this was a case of YMMV. For future, why not end the session and go down to choose again. Ask the staff who is more Farang Friendly. Sometimes asking for this advice goes a long way. When I choose girls in any massage shop, I look for eye contact and a smile. If I don't get it, I don't choose her.
    First I look around for the girls that look good to me. Then I look for eye contact and other signs in body language that indicate the girl would like to be chosen, but I agree with Syzygies that too much effort to attract my attention is not a good sign either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    The more a girl plays up to me, the more inclined I an to avoid her if I believe she could be putting on an act.
    On other hand if a girl refuses to look at me at all that can be a bad sign. I just prefer girls that act very natural. My philosophy is I don't want the girl to choose me. OK to give a smile but it does not prove much.I always used to spend a lot of time watching the expressions as girls chatted to their friends sitting nearby. Sometimes character can be read a little. However mostly its a gamble. Much better to have a girl sit and chat with you in a bar, my preferred method.

    I have had Soapy girls that were great in the bath but on the bed became very dick scared. Hard to predict sessions really.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canyon  [View Original Post]
    The strange thing was that she smiled and made a lot of eye contact before I picked her. She seemed to like me a lot. I thought about making an exchange, but by the time I knew it would be a bad session, she had already given me a blowjob, and I thought it was too late for an exchange.
    There is a point of no return on exchanging a girl. I think by the time you are both naked in the tub and she has your dick in her mouth, it's too late.

    So, what to do if you are with a dud and it is too late to exchange her or get your money back?

    First, try to turn a reluctant girl on and get her into it. Some guys are good with their fingers. I admit I don't know what I am doing down there with my hands 555. But I am a black belt at oral sex - the subtle art of cunnilingus. Now assuming the girl has a pussy I want to lick which unfortunately a majority of girls do not have IMHO, then proceed slowly, but surely to turn her on. I can't remember how many times this strategy has worked for me and turned around what would have been a mediocre session into something really good. My last such encounter occurred between myself and an 18-year-old street massage girl on Burgos in Makati. She was Miss Reluctant; no DFK, lackluster soapy shower, no nipple licking (me to her). Finally exasperated, I sat up and satirically asked her what she would like me to do and added, "would you like me to lick your pussy?" And to my surprise, the little girl nodded her head up and down and said yes. So, after inspecting her goods, I went downtown and slowly brought her to orgasm. After that I had a passionate, giving, sexy, loving, little Pinay giving her all to make me happy. 40 to 45 minutes later, after many positions and much sweat equity, I came while she was riding me Asian cowgirl and then she collapsed, the little darling on top of me. The point is it turned out to be a great session after a pretty bad start thanks to my getting her sexually aroused.

    But what if the girl refuses DATY? Well in this scenario you are pretty much up shit creek without a paddle, unless you want to try the nuclear option. LOL. But before I go into the nuclear option, which is really pretty straight forward, I want to preface it with a little accounting / finance lesson I learned a long time ago about something called a SUNK COST. A sunk cost is something that you paid good money for, but you are never going get what you paid for back or recieve an appropriate return on your investment. It is lost, gone with the wind. So, forget about it. The time is not 10 minutes ago when you paid for the session at the front desk. The time is now in the loom and the question is, do you want to proceed further with a girl that is going to give you a lousy lay, or do you want to just accept your loss and leave, OR do you want to make a new attempt, a new offer in order to get something good in return out of it.

    An example of the nuclear option: this happened a couple of years ago when I was in Batam, of all places. I went to one of the local bordellos where they have girls in the back. The deal is you pick a girl in the late morning, pay the all-inclusive fee, and then you have her for next 22 hours and as many shots as you can muster. So, I went to this place and picked a really sexy little Indo spinner and boys, I do mean sexy. She and another girl were the most expensive girls in the place and the price was 800,000 rp ($60). That does not sound like much, but the other girls in the place were 400,000 rp and 600,000 rp and I was paying up for the creme de la creme. Anyway, I asked the one I subsequently chose if she wanted to go with me and she smiled and said yes. So, we go back to my hotel and it is Lackluster Time. Once in the room, the girl had no enthusiasm or passion for anything: 1. No kissing on the lips. 2. We took a brief nonevent shower together. 3 She gave a very perfunctory BBBJ. And 4. I got on top of her gorgeous, sexy body and she was a total starfish, so I started losing my hard on and I pulled out after 5 or 6 minutes. She then looked up inquiringly and asked if I was done. I said yeah and I went alone to wash up in the shower while she turned on her cell phone and got immersed in it.

    When I came out of the shower I sat down on the bed next to her. Remember I had the girl for the next 20 hours or so. It was way beyond the point of return. I would have just made a fool out of myself if I had marched the two of us back to her bordello and asked for my money back or an exchange. So, I sat down on the bed next to her and told her I really liked her, and asked her why didn't she like me? She looked up and said, "I like you" and I said ok, but I really like you. Why you no like me as much as I like you? You know, yada yada yada stuff. Then I got the inspiration to go nuclear! So, I say to her, if you make love to me like you really like me, like I am your boyfriend, I will give you a big tip! And she suddenly looks up from her phone and for the 1st time in our relationship she looks truly interested in what I am saying. Her response is, "how much you give me?" and I think rapidly in my head how much I should offer this girl for a really good time. I come back with a 200,000 rp offer. She says, "no, 800,000 rp. " I counter with 400,000 rp ($30) and she agrees, but quickly adds she wants the money up front. I say I cannot and hold firm, but to close the deal I get up and retrieve 400,000 rp from the safe in the closest and show her the money which I place on the dresser next to the TV and I tell her it's hers if you make love to me like I am your boyfriend.

    She agrees to the deal and I get back in bed with her, only this time it's like I am with a different girl. She goes down on me and gives me a great, deep mouth BBBJ. After a good long while she comes up and impales herself on my dick and off we go and it was GREAT! So, the end of story is we happily shagged twice under the new arrangement. At around 6 pm I asked her if she wanted to get something to eat and she declined the offer. I thought about letting her stay in the room, while I went out to eat dinner and look around, but I decided to let her go. Two very good, memorable shags from this hottie was fine for me and worth the price. Remember the true cost is not 800,000 + 400,000. The 800,000 rp was a sunk cost. I was never going to get my money's worth from that expenditure. The 400,00 rp was the cost for the great sex romp. It is not a rationalization. It is Cost Accounting 111. I still have some pictures of this little girl and the pictures don't lie. She was hot, so I am glad I went Nuclear on her. LOL. Anyway, that is final option when you are with a sexy girl that is not performing like she should and she refuses to let you lick her pussy because she does not want to get turned on. It's a personal call. I only recommend going nuclear under very specific circumstances, but it is an option and it does work.

  4. #15533
    Quote Originally Posted by Canyon  [View Original Post]
    The strange thing was that she smiled and made a lot of eye contact before I picked her. She seemed to like me a lot. I thought about making an exchange, but by the time I knew it would be a bad session, she had already given me a blowjob, and I thought it was too late for an exchange.
    The more a girl plays up to me, the more inclined I an to avoid her if I believe she could be putting on an act.

    On other hand if a girl refuses to look at me at all that can be a bad sign. I just prefer girls that act very natural.

    My philosophy is I don't want the girl to choose me. OK to give a smile but it does not prove much.

    I always used to spend a lot of time watching the expressions as girls chatted to their friends sitting near by. Sometimes character can be read a little. However mostly its a gamble. Much better to have a girl sit and chat with you in a bar, my preferred method.

    I have had Soapy girls that were great in the bath but on the bed became very dick scared. Hard to predict sessions really.

  5. #15532
    Quote Originally Posted by Canyon  [View Original Post]
    The strange thing was that she smiled and made a lot of eye contact before I picked her. She seemed to like me a lot. I thought about making an exchange, but by the time I knew it would be a bad session, she had already given me a blowjob, and I thought it was too late for an exchange.
    The problem with choosing based on smile and eye contact is that some women do that just to hook you into choosing them, not that they want to go with you and give you a good time. At soapies and oilies, I never choose someone without first asking them to sit with me and discuss what we can do in the room. As an example, in Sabai Room in Pattaya, I saw a girl I liked who smiled at me. I asked the papasan to have her come talk to me. She came and I inquired if she spoke English, which she did, and asked her if she kissed. She said no. I told her that I couldn't fuck without kissing but she still said no, so I thanked her and left, probably much to her (and the papasan"s) surprise. However, had I not asked, I probably would have been stuck with a session I didn't want.

  6. #15531

    Ning at the Lord

    One thing I forgot to mention is that she kept looking at her phone during the session. If I had reported that, maybe they would have let me make an exchange.

  7. #15530

    The Lord

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure this was a case of YMMV. For future, why not end the session and go down to choose again. Ask the staff who is more Farang Friendly. Sometimes asking for this advice goes a long way. When I choose girls in any massage shop, I look for eye contact and a smile. If I don't get it, I don't choose her.
    The strange thing was that she smiled and made a lot of eye contact before I picked her. She seemed to like me a lot. I thought about making an exchange, but by the time I knew it would be a bad session, she had already given me a blowjob, and I thought it was too late for an exchange.

  8. #15529
    Quote Originally Posted by Canyon  [View Original Post]
    Natty:
    I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub.
    Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged.
    Unless it's a specific of a training program which few if any P4P business's in Thailand operate, kissing and hugging are far from a given no matter where you visit or how much you pay. I would say less than 20% of girls have it as part of their skill set and are disproportionately found in the so called PSE shops and with Hi end experienced escorts. Even when available it can often be so contrived as to be sexually meaningless.

    No actual data to support but my sense is that culturally neither Thai girls nor Thai boys are that much into kissing even when they are in relationships.

    Personally I don't look for it so no disappointment if it's not forthcoming. I prefer sucking erect nipples and clitoris's rather than tongues unless there is some semblance of genuine affection which happens with my regulars but only occasionally with a new try out.

    So I would suggest not to automatically expect it, relax and don't allow its absence to detract from the enjoyment of shagging a beautiful young body that you have just paid 5800 to spend 90 minutes with.

  9. #15528
    Quote Originally Posted by Canyon  [View Original Post]
    Natty:

    I took your advice and visited the Lord yesterday. You're right about the upscale feeling. All the furniture and decorations are very nice and project an aura of elegance. The staff was also very helpful. The girls were very attractive for the most part. There were about 20 to choose from when I was there around 5 pm on Thursday. Of the 20 ladies, two were stunning and I had a hard time making a decision. I finally picked Ning (M-24) whose rate was 5,800 baht. She was young and slim with a very pretty face. I was really excited about my session with her.

    In the room, she started drawing the water right away in a tub that had already been half-filled-just as Natty described. I undressed while she got ready. It was with eager anticipation that I got into the tub. That was the high point of the encounter. It was all down hill from there.

    I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub. She began a very mechanical blowjob. Usually, the BJ is one of my favorite things, but in this case, I didn't really enjoy it. She sucked me, but there was just no feeling behind it. After a while, she started washing me, but again, it was very mechanical and inspired no feeling.

    Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. She didn't respond to my initiatives, but just took control. She did give me another BJ on the bed, but again it was very mechanical and did not feel very good. By this time, I was having trouble maintaining my erection. (To be fair, I had just had a long, energetic and enjoyable sex session the previous day, so I was not as horny, as I otherwise might have been.).

    In an effort to get a hard-on, I turned her over on her stomach and placed my cock in the crack on her bottom. This gave me a mild erection. After that, she sucked me some more, I got a little harder, and finally stuck my cock in her pussy. It was not a pleasant experience and I felt that she was just going through the motions. After about an hour in the room, she said we should shower. We were only in the room for 60 minutes, so she definitely shorted me 30 minutes of the agreed 90 minutes.

    This was the worst experience I had in Bangkok this trip, and one of the worst experiences I have had in Bangkok. My experiences at LaBelle have been much better.

    Natty, I want to make it clear that I'm not blaming you for the bad experience at the Lord. This is only one session with one girl, so it's not a statistically valid sample. I'm just reporting on the disappointing experience. I'm posting this, so people can see that there's no guarantee of a good session at the Lord. YMMV.

    My advice is to avoid the siren song of Ning (M-24) and her price of 5,800 baht. She's certainly a beauty, but not a warm person.
    I'm sure this was a case of YMMV. For future, why not end the session and go down to choose again. Ask the staff who is more Farang Friendly. Sometimes asking for this advice goes a long way. When I choose girls in any massage shop, I look for eye contact and a smile. If I don't get it, I don't choose her.

  10. #15527

    Visit to the Lord

    Natty:

    I took your advice and visited the Lord yesterday. You're right about the upscale feeling. All the furniture and decorations are very nice and project an aura of elegance. The staff was also very helpful. The girls were very attractive for the most part. There were about 20 to choose from when I was there around 5 pm on Thursday. Of the 20 ladies, two were stunning and I had a hard time making a decision. I finally picked Ning (M-24) whose rate was 5,800 baht. She was young and slim with a very pretty face. I was really excited about my session with her.

    In the room, she started drawing the water right away in a tub that had already been half-filled-just as Natty described. I undressed while she got ready. It was with eager anticipation that I got into the tub. That was the high point of the encounter. It was all down hill from there.

    I tried to cuddle with her in the tub, but she brushed off my embraces. She had me lay down with my head on the cushion on the tub. She began a very mechanical blowjob. Usually, the BJ is one of my favorite things, but in this case, I didn't really enjoy it. She sucked me, but there was just no feeling behind it. After a while, she started washing me, but again, it was very mechanical and inspired no feeling.

    Out of the tub and into the bed, I tried to hug and kiss her, but she brushed me off. I said OK--no kissing--but she didn't even seem to want to be hugged. She didn't respond to my initiatives, but just took control. She did give me another BJ on the bed, but again it was very mechanical and did not feel very good. By this time, I was having trouble maintaining my erection. (To be fair, I had just had a long, energetic and enjoyable sex session the previous day, so I was not as horny, as I otherwise might have been.).

    In an effort to get a hard-on, I turned her over on her stomach and placed my cock in the crack on her bottom. This gave me a mild erection. After that, she sucked me some more, I got a little harder, and finally stuck my cock in her pussy. It was not a pleasant experience and I felt that she was just going through the motions. After about an hour in the room, she said we should shower. We were only in the room for 60 minutes, so she definitely shorted me 30 minutes of the agreed 90 minutes.

    This was the worst experience I had in Bangkok this trip, and one of the worst experiences I have had in Bangkok. My experiences at LaBelle have been much better.

    Natty, I want to make it clear that I'm not blaming you for the bad experience at the Lord. This is only one session with one girl, so it's not a statistically valid sample. I'm just reporting on the disappointing experience. I'm posting this, so people can see that there's no guarantee of a good session at the Lord. YMMV.

    My advice is to avoid the siren song of Ning (M-24) and her price of 5,800 baht. She's certainly a beauty, but not a warm person.

  11. #15526
    Quote Originally Posted by Canyon  [View Original Post]
    Natty:

    LaBelle used to be my favorite-good-looking girls and great service. I haven't been there in a couple of years, but I was planning on going back until I read your review. Here are my questions: (1) Why do you think LaBelle has changed? (2) How can a soapy control what a girl does in the private room? (3) Why do you think LaBelle has gone down and the Lord has gone up? I will be trying the Lord this week and will leave a report. I may also pay a visit to La Belle.
    Utopia was a shop that declined badly in recent years. Some of their girls moved to sister club La Belle.

    I only ever had one girl I repeated at La Belle and in the end she was no longer good enough to repeat. I am cursed with the problem of being slightly over endowed, and often meet dick scared girls in the Soapies. Also La Belle had a lot of fake surgeries girls which were not my spec, so was very common that papasan would recommend certain girls that just did not appeal to me at all. I don't like the tubs at La Belle at all. I think an Oily MP that has a Nuru body slide and Jacuzzi tub can be a good option for me. My prime concern though, as always, is to find superior looking model types that really like dick (not such an easy assignment) and can give me a real fun time. This means on finding the fun girls, I have to stick to them.

    Has La Belle actually gone down hill? I think it never reached the popularity heights that the owners intended. The whole Soapy scene has declined.

    Even though my first Lord girl was not GFE and I would not repeat, she was still better than plenty of La Belle girls that I tried.

    I don't see any great reason for you to try other shops if you are very happy with the Lord girls.

    I recommend Emmanuelle as a slightly cheaper option than the Lord, or Ocean, Meree and Evita as very cheap options for those on a budget. If the cost is not an issue, I would say stick to the Lord.

    I am better off going to bars or Oilies or freelancers on the street, and choosing girls who have almost all of their customers being Farangs, because I meet less problems with being dick scared this way. Rarely even meet a girl who actually prefers my size.

  12. #15525
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuy68  [View Original Post]
    I've searched reports from last two years. Lots of reports of these places going downhill but are pretty old reports. A quick look at websites shows many ladies right up my alley. More so Copa Cabana. Many 18-23. More concerned with ladies being younger vs skills or experience. I have saved plenty for this dream trip so price is irrelevant. So I will be reporting on these places at the end of August. Any other places that fellow mongers would like an updated report on? Plan on being very active on my first trip. Might give the different style Pimp and other similar G clubs a try. Seems I'd be better off lighting money on fire from reports. But looking for them stunners.
    I have not been to Victoria Secret for a long time and never took a girl there, as line ups were probably too small, or maybe I took a non memorable girl and Alzheimers made me forget her quickly. I believe I never attended there late enough to give it a good chance. Was always there in daytime.

    I have called in Copa Cabana recently. This place used to be one of my favourites. I can confirm that it has declined badly. Very few girls these days and weak line up. I won't waste my time to go there any more. Malibu closed completely. Emmanuelle has improved after amalgamating with Amsterdam girls. Poseidon has a reasonable sized line up. Ocean is worth a try. Good price and quite a good line up. Was less impressed by Merci (Maxi) as line up is smaller. I will also probably try Evita and Meree again because got lucky there last time. My Lord girl was disappointing but will try again.

    Also looked in Hi Class recently and line up was sizeable but no quality girls at all. Rather Low Class to my eye.

  13. #15524
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojosun  [View Original Post]
    Had a short stopover in BKK back in early March and didn't have much time to look around. Headed back there for a cheap and cheerful session and picked one OK curvy 30 something MILF for the massage and Fuck. The session is actually 700 to her and I tipped her an extra 300.

    Very good investment it turned out to be as she showed me on her phone, Photos of really young pretty things who will do outcall to my place ST for 2500. Most probably through an agency they would cost a lot more.

    Told her straight, if girls turn out to be bait and switch or fake photos, I will send them away with no taxi money. Tried 2 girls from her phone and was very pleasantly surprised. Very good deal.

    The cashier, Mamasan will also show you her collection of girls for outtcall once she recognizes your face on a return visit to the sauna.
    Thanks for piquing my interest!

  14. #15523
    Quote Originally Posted by Gannaton48  [View Original Post]
    Do Lord girls do CIM?
    Maybe, I don't know. CIM is not on my to do list. I much prefer CIV or CIP. 555. And I don't know with absolute certainty, but I kind of doubt anal sex is on the menu of most, if not all the Lord girls, however, several of my Lord girls initiated, all on their own,a rim job on me which led to some pretty gnarly no holes barred 69's. But I always ended with vaginal sex because that is what I like. All my Lord girls asked me to wear a condom before vaginal penetration began. I complied naturally and used Sagami 0.01 & Sagami 0.02 L for all my encounters (vaginal sex) at the Lord.

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    About CIM

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    La Belle is still worth going to IMHO because they still have some very good-looking girls in the lineup. My complaint is La Belle service varies widely girl to girl from just ok to great. I think the sideline girls are probably your best bet, but they are more expensive and who knows what will happen in the La Belle Room. The Lord girls, on the other hand, always have given me very good to really great (outrageously naughty) enthusiastic service. In other words, I have found much less variance in quality at the Lord. Thus, my comment that it's almost a sure thing there.

    I believe that the management gets all the credit. You see the difference in the Lord management style in little things and really important things like for example how the tub is always half full of warm water when you enter the room. That takes effort and attention to detail. Water does not stay warm in a tub for very long, so the staff must be working constantly to make sure there are enough rooms with warm water 1/2 filled tubs available for customers. What other massage shop pays such attention to detail? None that I know of.

    The more important issue, of course, is keeping the girls focused on giving the customer a certain level of service without coasting, or getting lazy, or spoiled. I do not know the exact methods Lord Management uses, but apparently, they run a pretty tight ship over there. One example is the mamasan or papasan who originally waits on me almost always comes over to me afterwards in the reception room to ask how things were and how my girl was. Sure, they are fishing for a tip, which I almost always give them (100 baht), but I believe they are also checking for customer satisfaction. That seems to matter at this particular place. The hosts or hostesses also remember my previous choices and when I return they ask if I want the same girl again, a similar type girl, or someone completley diferent. That is another nice personal touch and it shows me they want to make sure I have a quality good time whenever I visit.

    Bottom line, I think La Belle girls and Lord girls both receive sexual training on what to do and how to do it at the begining of their tenures at their respective bordellos. The difference is the Lord management somehow keeps its girls in line and makes sure no one shirks their duties while La Belle management seems to have a looser management style and thus kind of lets their girls pretty much do what they want to do in the loom. Anyway, that's how it appears to me.

    On my last trip, I wanted to check out Merci and Madam. I have heard the quality is good at Merci. But every time I got off at either the Thai Cultural Center MRT station or the Huai Khwang MRT station I always headed back to the Lord. Ha Ha. But, I plan to check out one of the new places on my next trip. Emmanuelle (Amsterdam) is in the same neighborhood. You might want to check that place too, but I don't see how they can improve on the Lord except with a different, hopefully equally attractive girl or two. Lastly, Copa Cabana is a good place to go. It's is in the Lord group. Not the flagship, but not as expensive, so worth checking out. And La Belle, I still have not written that place off completely because they do have some stunners there and service with a La Belle stunner can be great, say 50% of the time. The trick would be to find a great one early in your trip thus making worthwhile repeats possible.

    So, have a great trip. I look forward to reading your report and seeing how you made out. I wish I was in BKK right now!

    NB.
    Do Lord girls do CIM?

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