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  1. #16653
    Quote Originally Posted by SexInStl  [View Original Post]

    I'm looking around for the 'card' that says what each of them offers, but don't see, and the mamasan starts pressuring me, you ready to go, which do you want, 1 hour or two? I look at her sideways, and say, can I talk to 'this' girl for a second. She says, NO, only girl available is this one (the one from outside). I wave my hands and say 'Never mind' and start to walk out the door. No one stops me. They just let that business walk right out the door! But I did it! I left!
    I also found the mamasan at Boss totally useless. She did show me the cards but wasn't able to identify which girls have babies. She brought me a girl and assured me she didn't have a baby which turned out to be a complete lie.

    It's good of Premier 101 to give you your money back as that kind of attitude is common in the area. But it's probably better to leave your translation app in your pocket as the translation it's giving is probably complete garbage. Try translating some Thai Facebook posts with the auto translator and see what nonsense comes out.

    Blow job is just given a literal word for word translation which means absolutely nothing in Thai.

  2. #16652
    Quote Originally Posted by SexInStl  [View Original Post]
    Should you tip your massage girl or is the price all-inclusive at most places?
    Price is all-inclusive, there's no obligation to tip.

    About half the time, I tip a nominal amount (100-200 baht), if a girl doesn't hold back and goes out of her way to make the session nice. No obligation to do this, but I just like to reciprocate, and might become a regular.

  3. #16651

    I finally did it.

    So, I'm walking through the massage area (Soi 24/26) and I'm thinking, I'm going to check out Boss Massage, based upon a recommendation (they have the cards that say what each girl does), and I pass by Dream Heaven and I see this girl sitting out front eating, and she has on these black pin striped pants and white blouse, and she has a really pretty face, and I think, Hmmmm.

    But I go down to Boss, taking my time walking past the others just to see what's out there. It's humid as FK-all, so I was really appreciative of the ladies that were actually sitting outside. So I go to Boss and only one girl is sitting out front and she's not what I'm looking for, but I go inside, and the lady tells me they only have these three, the girl who came in from outside (no) and two who don't even look up, just continue to slouch down on the couch with headphones on their phones. One of them is really cute and looks decent.

    I'm looking around for the 'card' that says what each of them offers, but don't see, and the mamasan starts pressuring me, you ready to go, which do you want, 1 hour or two? I look at her sideways, and say, can I talk to 'this' girl for a second. She says, NO, only girl available is this one (the one from outside). I wave my hands and say 'Never mind' and start to walk out the door. No one stops me. They just let that business walk right out the door! But I did it! I left!

    The hell with that, I ain't goin' with nobody I don't want to go with, no more!

    But it gets better!

    So I go back by Dream Heaven and figure, I'll check this other girl out, I saw walking by. On my phone, in the translation app, I write 'French Kiss. No Condom Blow Job. Lick Pussy'. I consider putting 'anal', even though I have no interest in that, just so they have one to say no too, that makes the other 3 seem easier by comparison, but I figure I don't need to over think it that much. So I talk to the mamasan, the same sexy one from the other night. She's a little bigger on the back side than I like, but she is still sexy as hell for a mamasan. She says 'Mimi', that's the girls name, is busy, but if I want I can come back in an hour. Damn.

    So I go walking. Not sure I want to wait an hour. So I go in 101 Premier again, figuring, the girl I got last time wasn't the hottest, but she FKK'd my brains out and did all the things I like. I won't settle for her type again, but I'll see what they got. She isn't there, but a little cutie named Nene is who I choose out of the lineup. I ask her to come over and I show her my phone and what it says. She acts confused, but the mamasan looks at it and says, yes, yes. So away we go.

    Nene is a cute little xtra petite girl with a cute face, an adorable little body and a nice pair of real titties. She didn't seem super enthused to be picked in the first place, but I'm a little bit used to these unprofessional little amateurs, but then she starts acting kind of funny right off: I be right back, oh you got water on the floor, straightening towels, the usual stalling stuff. But I get naked immediately and when she comes back, I've already showered and I start getting her naked. More weird behavior, as SHE wants to undress herself. We get in the shower and I start to play with her as she's trying to clean me, and I can tell she's annoyed, almost to the point of pushing my hand away. I figure, enough of this, and I try and kiss her. NO GO!

    I act surprised. She says I don't do that no kiss. No lick, and points at her pussy. Damn she's got a hot little body. I say, the mamasan said you DO all of that! She says no no no. I wave my hand. Nope, never mind. I get out of the shower and dry off and put my shorts on. She's kind of stunned. She says, you different girl. I say, NO, I want my money back, I'm going somewhere else. She tries to negotiate 'little kisses, but no pussy lick' and I just chuckle at her, and she asks again, you want different girl? I say, NO, I want my money back, I'm going elsewhere.

    And they LET me! They let my business walk right out the door!

    I ain't goin' with nobody I don't want to go with, no more!

    Fuck that noise. (I did get to shower with a hot ass little babe who started washing my cock though. For FREE!

    So I March right back down to Dream Heaven and they say, Mimi has 20 more minutes, do you want to wait? And I say yes, and I show the mamasan my phone and she says Mimi, yes, and grins really big, but then asks 'No Condom?' and I say, 'for blowjob', and she says, yes, just no, accident. Oh yeah, yeah, I get ya, no I won't cum in her mouth! So I sit on the couch and wait and Mimi is finished less than 10 minutes later, and she is all smiles to see me. That's a good sign! I opt for the 40 minutes, because, really I'm just ready to FKK.

    Mimi is a little darker skinned, which I don't mind, with a really hot ass. Naked she almost has a Brazilian girl kind of body, except in petite size. Titties are a small handful, and even though you can tell she's had a baby, they still look and feel nice. A really hot looking face, with FKK me eyes, and full lips, and great hair. Nice pussy, with just a patch of hair, which I like. She's not a hardbody, but she's not flabby either, she's natural and looks good. Not for everyone, but she looked hot to me. Especially, with her performance.

    Playful from the beginning, she could tell I wanted to get down to business and she was a fairly passionate kisser and she went right for playing with the boys. I fingered her almost immediately and fell on the table and started to go at it. DATY, BBBJ, DFK (but not after I'd licked her pussy! She didn't want to DFK anymore after that!) Sometimes girls with really small pussies are actually harder to FKK, but Mimi's was just slightly bigger, OR just really wet, and easy to pound and get deep into. We started in missionary, went to standing doggie, and when I asked if she wanted to get on top, her eyes lit up. I told her to use it, and make herself cum, and she put the effort in. (She SAYS she came, but she was so wet from the start, it was hard to know for sure. Like I said, she certainly put the effort into it).

    Afterwards she joked that she needed to go get a Thai massage, that I gave her a workout. What a smart thing to say. SEE! That's how you get repeat business. I will be back for her! She's not on the website, but I recommend her. She let me take a couple of pics (just no face pics).
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  4. #16650

    CanCam girl from last year.

    Sorry about this, not time to RTFF just yet. Same as my post on the Tulip section seeking any info from the regulars on a girl I had a session with mid last year. This was early evening at CanCam the girl was a tiny little thing sitting outside with a smile as soon as I approached. I checked the lineup first and almost went with a tall leggy girl which is more my preference but in the end her looks and smile won me over. Great service, she gave me a nice long BJ after the shower. I came in her mouth, I let her spit it out but asked if she could keep sucking for a bit which she did. A quick rest and as soon as I got hard again fucked her quite hard in may different positions, pulled out, uncapped and came on her stomach. She asked me if I wanted her to keep blowing me like earlier, I considered it but thought she had done enough and declined. Such a trooper. She had a weird name like Plate or Basket or something like that. I thought I would remember but I forgot.

    My subsequent return was not so good. I had to reschedule and went during the day instead of in the evening like I wanted. Two daytime girls, skinny, not really my type but no others around so I pulled the trigger on both. They were enthusiastic but had rules: one pop only, only one would do the BJ and the other would kiss, clock watchers too, the both of them and identically flat chested, I mean really flat, I told them it was ok if they wanted to keep their tops on. The two were joking around the whole time, I did enjoy their positive demeanor and I did get them both to take turns blowing me. I think they were new, I could have talked them into doing more but I was so disappointed in not being able to have a session with the other girl, I didn't bother and just let time run out after I finished.

  5. #16649
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelLucid  [View Original Post]
    I get the environment issue about the use of resources, and esp. Fresh potable water. (Look at Cape Town, South Africa, where I lived when younger. Facing what could be a disaster.).

    However, I cannot help being bemused by the thought of too much fucking causing.

    Is this really serious?
    There is no irony or joke here. Bangkok has been sinking at a rate of 1 cm per year I believe I read. It is on low lying land and there are flood problems sone years as most guys know.

    Scientists believe that use of deep artesian water is a major cause of the city sinking.

    The Soapy massage places are a major culprits. They use a large amount of water, and many decided to use artesian water instead of pay high water bills for regular city water supply. Use of the underground water pumped up is iegal in Bangkok but not in rural Thailand.

    Drinking water is quite irrelevant since that is normally treated water. No one drinks bath water naturally. So 'potable' does not come into it.

    So yes several Soapy Massage joints have been closed, including the famous Annies. It was using illegal Artesian water as well. This is now confirmed. Wood and Chrome bars were not affected by the water sinking Bangkok scandal. So some of the girls will be found there. Same management, etc.

  6. #16648
    Quote Originally Posted by Mjen1970  [View Original Post]
    I was looking at the Snow White website dreaming of my trip next month.

    I had a little typo and this site popped up -.

    http://cn.snowwhitesoi26.com/ladies.html

    Forgive my ignorance in that I missed the real heydays of Tulip and Snow but in my experience there are pictures of a couple of legends still up there (April and Momay).
    Wow! Memories. Yes, the gals were better looking back then, younger (think all on that site were under 25), all but two baby free and June had no stretch marks, and every single one a performer. At that same time Mango had an outstanding lineup and the same applied, most no kids, under 25, decent looking, and performers. And look what we are being offered these days! It's really gone downhill. Difficult for me to get exited about 30 plus women with mommy bodies who deliver so-so service. Just not good enough.

    Drove down 24/1 on my motorbike this evening. What a horror show. Even BB had a bunch of darker skinned fatties. Gals sitting outside Boss left a lot to be desired as well. Looks like I am going to continue saving lots of money.

  7. #16647
    Quote Originally Posted by SexInStl  [View Original Post]
    Starting to like the idea of massage better, as you seem to get more for your money. So Wednesday night headed over a bit later than I would've liked about 8 pm.

    Can Cam had 3 girls and he showed them to me by Facetime on his phone! Uh, no. But as I was going out the door he led me to Dream Heaven next door and said 'mamasan good, lots of girls'. The mamasan was kinda hot for being a little bit older (I'm not even going to guess, these Southeast Asians confound me on age) and she trotted out 9 ladies for me to see. It was hard to chose because really none of them were what I was looking for, but being a big pansy I sat there and chose what I thought was the hottest of the bunch.

    Her name was Janie, though I don't see her on the website, and she had that natural 1950's kind of body, short rib cage that slants in for a small waist and then widening out a bit for womanly hips, a nice full strong rump, a plump 'see' cup, and a really pretty face. She might be confused for being half spanish, but I didn't ask. She was a dud though.

    No DFK (not sure what the mouthwash was for), no fingering, no DATY, she wanted a CBJ, but I insisted it was BBBJ and she went along with it. She stalled in every way possible to get to the sex part. We showered, then got in the hot tub, then showered. Then SHE showered, then she asked if I wanted to clean her and she showered me again. Ugh. Her BJ was ok at first, but then I was ready to move on to the Fkkng by this point. Her vagina was small and tight somehow though and I enjoyed it, missionary, her on top and then she balked at standing doggie. "Let me finish you with Blow Job", she said. Fine, get it over with.

    And lo and behold, she was suddenly GOOD at the BBBJ, and I came all over her breasts. Then we showered again! Then came the massage, which was ok. She was so shy at times and timid (She must have said "I'm sorry" 10 times), I asked her how long she'd been working there. "7 years", she said. I was astounded. I asked how old she was. 36! 10 years older than I would have guessed. The massage was ok, though she used a towel to cover my ass. Good Grief. Afterwards she said, do you want to take a shower? I said, "I'm probably cleaner than I've ever been in my entire life. ".

    Ah well. Better to make a mistake with 2300 Baht than 4000 Baht.
    Yes, it is amazing what poor performances gals can get away with these days. Gals are very good at manipulating and that is exactly what she did to you. I would have called for the mamasan or at least expressed my dissatisfaction when walking out. It's just a shame we have to deal with this crap. It really ruins the entire experience. And it just seems to get worse by the year.

    Boss Massage is a good bet, because they have cards that explicitly tell what each gal does and does not do. The gals sees you looking at the card and she then knows you know. So there is really no room for surprise. If she balks, you can call her on it. Jeez, I miss the old days of Tulip, Mango, and SW, where the motto was "all girls do everything" and you just did not have to worry about this BS.

  8. #16646
    Quote Originally Posted by ExecTalent  [View Original Post]
    I always tip. Sometimes because of the quality of the service but most often because of the amount the girls actually get paid and the fact that the tip amount has no impact on my lifestyle. I even gave a woman cutting hair in the middle of the street at 11:30 PM some money because I admired her entrepreneurial spirit and work ethic. Candidly would rather put my money in the hands of someone who deserves it than some administrator for United Way.
    Actually I have found as earnings for P4 P workers in SE Asia has increased; service has decreased.

  9. #16645
    Quote Originally Posted by SexInStl  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for all the responses. I really do appreciate it.

    I tried to do a search on the word tip, but apparently it's too short of a word for the search engine.
    If you type in 'tipping' you get 118 pages of results just for this thread.

  10. #16644

    Dream Heaven Massage

    Starting to like the idea of massage better, as you seem to get more for your money. So Wednesday night headed over a bit later than I would've liked about 8 pm.

    Can Cam had 3 girls and he showed them to me by Facetime on his phone! Uh, no. But as I was going out the door he led me to Dream Heaven next door and said 'mamasan good, lots of girls'. The mamasan was kinda hot for being a little bit older (I'm not even going to guess, these Southeast Asians confound me on age) and she trotted out 9 ladies for me to see. It was hard to chose because really none of them were what I was looking for, but being a big pansy I sat there and chose what I thought was the hottest of the bunch.

    Her name was Janie, though I don't see her on the website, and she had that natural 1950's kind of body, short rib cage that slants in for a small waist and then widening out a bit for womanly hips, a nice full strong rump, a plump 'see' cup, and a really pretty face. She might be confused for being half spanish, but I didn't ask. She was a dud though.

    No DFK (not sure what the mouthwash was for), no fingering, no DATY, she wanted a CBJ, but I insisted it was BBBJ and she went along with it. She stalled in every way possible to get to the sex part. We showered, then got in the hot tub, then showered. Then SHE showered, then she asked if I wanted to clean her and she showered me again. Ugh. Her BJ was ok at first, but then I was ready to move on to the Fkkng by this point. Her vagina was small and tight somehow though and I enjoyed it, missionary, her on top and then she balked at standing doggie. "Let me finish you with Blow Job", she said. Fine, get it over with.

    And lo and behold, she was suddenly GOOD at the BBBJ, and I came all over her breasts. Then we showered again! Then came the massage, which was ok. She was so shy at times and timid (She must have said "I'm sorry" 10 times), I asked her how long she'd been working there. "7 years", she said. I was astounded. I asked how old she was. 36! 10 years older than I would have guessed. The massage was ok, though she used a towel to cover my ass. Good Grief. Afterwards she said, do you want to take a shower? I said, "I'm probably cleaner than I've ever been in my entire life. ".

    Ah well. Better to make a mistake with 2300 Baht than 4000 Baht.

  11. #16643

    Yes.

    Tip? Yes! Why? Makes her feel appreciated and happier about what she does for a living. No if she was clearly not into it and made no effort. How much? 200 up depending on level of effort and to a lesser extent skill set.

  12. #16642

    Tipping

    Thank you for all the responses. I really do appreciate it.

    I tried to do a search on the word tip, but apparently it's too short of a word for the search engine.

  13. #16641

    Tipping - No obligation and no fixed rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by SexInStl  [View Original Post]
    Should you tip your massage girl or is the price all-inclusive at most places?
    There is no rule of thumb, when it comes to tipping, as you may have gathered from the varying viewpoints expressed in the preceding posts on the subject and, most certainly, you are not obligated to tip i.e. the rate is all inclusive. I often find myself in a generous mood when, at the end of it all, I have that warm feeling of contentment, which one can get in different ways. IMHO, promise of a decent tip can lead to some additional services being offered that, otherwise, may not be on the table. I still remember, a couple of years back, when I ventured into Caesars, the girl was quite resistant to DFK, which, from what I've been able to gather, most of the high-end soapy girls are. After some back and forth on Google translate, promised her a decent tip and she agreed, although, somewhat reluctantly. But, when it came to the actual delivery, she was really into it or, at least, that is what it felt like. She even made up for the lost time and continued the session for quite some time even after the call. On that occasion, tipped her 10%. So, I tend to take things on a case to case basis and, accordingly, have tipped, ranging from 0 to 20%, over the years.

  14. #16640

    Tipping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    I never tip at oilies. Been a regular at them for over 10 years. Some guys tip. Up to you. I don't think it brings you any better service.
    I always tip. Sometimes because of the quality of the service but most often because of the amount the girls actually get paid and the fact that the tip amount has no impact on my lifestyle. I even gave a woman cutting hair in the middle of the street at 11:30 PM some money because I admired her entrepreneurial spirit and work ethic. Candidly would rather put my money in the hands of someone who deserves it than some administrator for United Way.

  15. #16639
    Quote Originally Posted by SexInStl  [View Original Post]
    Hello? Anybody?
    Instead of getting impatient you could have just searched for the many discussions there have been about tipping in this thread.

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