Finally getting around to the update on my 4-day Valpo and Viña trip. Besides Kurvas and Fashion Show mentioned in prior post there is a third cabaret or strip club in Viña called Premium Bar. It is in a little alley off of Valparaiso Street just west of the main Plaza de Vina, at Paseo Cousiño N° 12, 3rd floor. When I stopped by there were only 3 or 4 chicas and none remotely attractive, but it might be worth a look; Chilean mongers on estokada seem to like it. I also confirmed that in the strip clubs with VIP rooms not all girls provide FS, but they were up front about it. Ask before buying her the expensive drinks.
There are also at least a dozen small café/cabarets in the Viña red light district near these three nicer clubs. The smaller cafes are different in that there does not appear to be on-site service. Daytime cafes and the small night clubs with chicas seem to offer only the possibility of buying a girl a drink for the equivalent of $5 to $20 and chatting for 30 minutes, possibly with some kissing and fondling. Obviously you can always discuss take-out. It's a weird aspect of Chilean mongering culture that many guys seem to spend a lot of money just to sit with these chicas in their bikinis or whatnot and buy them expensive drinks. For take-out in Viña there is a convenient motel called Paramor (get it?) on Von Schroeder north of Arlegui, on your right as you walk towards the Casino. A decent room can be had there for as little as 7000 pesos, or about fifteen dollars US, for two hours. I had an excellent session there with a hot Kurvas girl after closing time, Rio quality, and gave her 50, 000 pesos.
Also, the daytime Viña massage place discussed in earlier posts on the 200 block of Valparaiso Street is still there.
Valparaiso's cabarets are clustered around the Plazuela Anibal Pinto, where there are also lots of regular bars with live music. The one place equivalent to Kurvas in Vina seems to be Stop Secret, at Salvador Donoso 1445. Chica drinks in the VIP room are 20, 000 pesos according to laestokada report in October 2011. Significantly less than in Viña, but not clear what the service levels are.
These clubs seem to open and close, and change names, frequently. Most of the clubs listed on WorldTravel's list are no longer around or have changed names, and even the laestokada map linked in prior post is not entirely reliable. On the other hand the areas are still the same and the clubs are easy to spot from the street. There is no cover charge anywhere, so there is not much to lose by going in and looking around. Didn't try the escort service.
I met a few chicas who spoke some English, but mongering in Viña and Valparaiso is much better if you can speak some Spanish.
Chile may not be a budget monger destination, but the strip clubs ('cabarets') in Vina are worth a visit. Fashion Girl at #166 Traslavina (between Arlegui and Valparaiso) and Kurvas (on the second floor in a mall on Arlegui between Echeverts and Villanela) both had some real talent. Others are discussed on the local mongers' discussion forum, laestokada. CL, en espanol. Both clubs mentioned have signs visible from the street. Fashion Girl was smaller, about 6 to 8 girls, ranging from 6 to 8 in looks. Drinks are about 5, 000 pesos I. E. $10 US. To buy a girl a drink is 15, 000 pesos ($30 US) then for a private room with FS is another 50, 000 ($100 US). I decided to pass, although two little spinners looked very tempting, and went on to Kurvas.
Both clubs seem to open around 8:00 or 9:00 pm and stay open until 5 a. M. Or so. Not much action until after 10:00.
Great vibe at Kurvas, more frequent dances and 12 to 15 girls on a Saturday night. Both clubs follow the common practice of featuring an occasional one or two two-song strip show with 3 to? Songs in between with no dancers on stage. At Kurvas the strip shows all ended fully nude, so you can check out the talent before buying. Drinks here were a bit less, about 4, 000CP for a beer. 10, 000CP for chica drink. 15, 000CP chica drink gets you into the VIP lounge where little more than DFK happens. For fully private room with champagne and FS the price tag is 60, 000CP, I. E. About $120 US. Went for it, and this was well worth it in my opinion. There were several 8's and arguably 9's to choose from. I wasn't looking for GFE at the time and got fully covered service but with some time invested in the bar to find the girl with the right vibe, anything may be possible. Kurvas impressed me as nicer with a better selection of more attractive girls. Will return to both later to compare.
Here is a link to a great little map of the cafes (daytime action) and cabarets (nighttime) in the Vina red light district, which is in the old part of town between Valparaiso avenue and Arlegui, and between Ecuador and Quinta:
I went to the MP listed in your report in March 2012, which is located on the 200 block of Calle Valparaiso in Vina Del Mar. It is now called Cuerpo (body) or something similar. Upstairs above a store. Black madam ushered me into a seating living room type area and called about five chicks from upstairs for an introduction. Surprisingly attractive for the most part. Young and a few looked like university students. A few blonds in the batch. All dressed in negligees. Price was reasonable and she said service was complete. I was staying in a hotel down the street and short of cash so I left with the intention of returning but decided against it after leaving since service will vary in these places. Did get a nice free view of the ladies though.
Valparaiso is a rough city be careful! It looks alot like a city in Peru. If you want to go to the casino like I did, In Santiago make sure you buy your bus ticket to Vina del mar, and not Valparariso. Did not check the p4p scene but I heard that It's there. At the Tur-bus terminal in Valparaiso be careful, anyone can walk in of the street in the bus station. I was there back in March of this year and at the station there was a guy on crutches begging for money. When he saw me he came up to me and started speaking good english. I'm black, but he knew I was American and thats disturbing! Although I did go to bar Laplaya because of Anthony bourdain and had a pisco sour mmmm delicious!
I'll be in Vina Del Mar in March 2010 for a couple of days.
Any suggestion on where to visit during the day for FS near the casino?
March is pretty far in the future, but read the report I just posted in the General Info section that recommends a giirl in Vina Del Mar, one block from the casino. I also tried Katya, 2 blocks away, and would not recommend her.
You can get numbers from vivstrreet ads:
3. Von Schroeders 220. __ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: __.
1. Luna Gata Club, __ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: __.
2. Gallo Rojo, __ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: __.
3. Sala Murano, __ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: __.
4. Kamazu, __ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: __.
5. Las Urracas, __ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: __.
6. Las Brujus, __ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: __.
1. Disco Salsa. __ Chicas. Prices: $40, short time. Many Chileans take a girl upstairs. Hours: __.
2. The MP, Avenida Valparaiso between Ecuador and Traslavina. It is on the North side of Avenida Valparaiso and towards Ecuador. From the crossing of Ecuador and Avenida Valparaiso, it is about 10 or 20m. It is easy to spot since there is a picture of a half-naked woman. __ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: __.
3. Play Old Club, Avenida Valparaiso 1115. __ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: __.
1. Hotel Monterilla and is located at Avenida Dos Norte 65.
1. VIP Massage parlor about 4 blocks away from the hotel on the opposite side of the lagoon. Small sign on the entryway and you go upstairs where you ring a bell. The lady answers the door, brings you inside and parades the girls in front of you. They ranged from 2 to 7, so I picked the 7 (Yvonne)....she also looked the least experienced of the group. The price ranges from $30 to $70, depending on what you want and for how long. I got a massage, and two rounds, plus a shower and a large beer for my $70....it was well worth it and very up front. When I first entered, I was a little wary, because my Spanish is not that good, but after the hour and a half, I was a happy man. __ Chicas. Prices: $30-70. Hours: __.
2. Near the Casino, go across the bridge and East 2 blocks then turn right...or South and go another 2 blocks...you will be in the right area, just look for the little sign above the entryway. Have fun and good hunting. __ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: __.
There are tons, (and I believe I now speak literally) TONS of hot women in Santiago who will go with you for dough. I have no idea where you are trying to find girls, but there are LOTS here. Yesterday, I personally agonized over a choice at one place that had a dozen. Perhaps things have changed.
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