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  1. #1509

    Interesting Article: Weapons and Carry Methods for Foreign Travel.

    For those unwilling to simply be mugged by Rateros, this traveler has some tips: " . . . Since guns are not recommended, the most effective weapon for most travelers is a knife. Knives can be legally brought into almost every third world country in checked luggage. Unless the knife is massive in size or the traveler has dozens of them in his luggage, customs officials rarely look twice if they see a knife when searching your bags.

    Even though it's rare that carrying a knife into a country would be questioned, the traveler should still have a believable "justification" for the presence of the knife in the event that customs or law enforcement officers ask you why you are carrying a blade. "Self-defense" is never a good justification to use with corrupt third world officials. Remember, most people in foreign countries don't have the same "right" to self-protection as they do here in the USA. It's best to have a more innocuous reason for carrying the knife.

    I generally carry a Spyderco "Salt" folder when I travel. The knife is made of a special type of stainless steel that does a phenomenal job resisting salt water. Thus, I have a handy justification for my blade; it's my "diving knife. " That excuse has worked for me no matter where I have traveled. "Dive knives" are commonplace and cause no additional scrutiny. You could even get by with a larger fixed blade knife so long as it looked like it had marine applications. Other "justifications" could be that you are going "camping in the jungle" or that the knife is your "cooking knife. " No matter what justification you choose, have a ready answer for when the cops ask you about the blade. "Cutting throats" is not generally recommended.

    With that said, the chance of getting caught and / or arrested when carrying a knife in a third world country is next to zero. If you are smart about carrying the blade, you won't get caught. If you do get caught, you'll usually be able to pay off the cop who catches you to avoid going to jail. I've only been caught with a knife one time in all of my travels when I had to go through a metal detector unexpectedly in Peru. I gave the knife to the cop. He pocketed it and that was the end of the issue. . . ".

    Full article: http://www.activeresponsetraining.ne...foreign-travel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    Fair point. I overstated the safety. I had LA, Chicago, NY in mind. Only trying to reassure others that, if you are smart, aware, use common sense, etc, it's not as though you are doomed when you step into Mexico. Your advice was spot on. Be aware and alert.

  2. #1508
    Yes that's true the other thing to remember is that in most of the time crime trends to do not necessarily lead to a increase in violence in the Zona. But many other times it does lead to a increase in violence and muggings etc. When there is sharp spike in cartel wars the bandito's will become more active. The other issue is that police extortion will often rise as well. Thankfully the police have been shaking people as much lately.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    Fair point. I overstated the safety. I had LA, Chicago, NY in mind. Only trying to reassure others that, if you are smart, aware, use common sense, etc, it's not as though you are doomed when you step into Mexico. Your advice was spot on. Be aware and alert.

  3. #1507
    Fair point. I overstated the safety. I had LA, Chicago, NY in mind. Only trying to reassure others that, if you are smart, aware, use common sense, etc, it's not as though you are doomed when you step into Mexico. Your advice was spot on. Be aware and alert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    When comparing big cities. I think Tijuana is much more dangerous than San Diego. There is much greater likelihood of getting robbed or mugged in Tijuana than SD.

  4. #1506
    When comparing big cities. I think Tijuana is much more dangerous than San Diego. There is much greater likelihood of getting robbed or mugged in Tijuana than SD. It does happen sometimes in SD. But there is very few places that I feel unsafe walking at night. Now that said I believe that the Zona safer since the beginning of the year. The has arrested or scared off most of the ratero's that hanging out in the Zona. Some of the ratero's were jumping people on Constucion by the alley in broad daylight at times. The danger is when the violence is starts picking up. Many people are caught by surprise and robbed or worse. !! For now the Zona appears reasonably safe. But it is always a good idea to stay aware.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcrist0527  [View Original Post]
    I think what you and LongDon said is the best advice. Make it clear, by the way you carry yourself, you are not a target. Be alert, do not shy away from eye contact. Just don't act scared. Anything can happen anywhere. But if you use common sense and don't have the appearance of fear, I don't feel Tijuana is any more dangerous to gringo tourists than any other big city.

  5. #1505

    Not to beat a dead horse.

    I think what you and LongDon said is the best advice. Make it clear, by the way you carry yourself, you are not a target. Be alert, do not shy away from eye contact. Just don't act scared. Anything can happen anywhere. But if you use common sense and don't have the appearance of fear, I don't feel Tijuana is any more dangerous to gringo tourists than any other big city.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    This is precisely what I was referring too. Perhaps I should have been more clear. I constantly look to see who is behind me.

  6. #1504
    This is precisely what I was referring too. Perhaps I should have been more clear. I constantly look to see who is behind me.

    Quote Originally Posted by LongDonSilva  [View Original Post]
    This is why you always keep your head on a swivel, walk confidently, and make it obvious you're aware of your surroundings. These guys are likely to focus on easy pickings and this will make you appear like you're not worth the trouble.

  7. #1503
    Quote Originally Posted by GNRPorche  [View Original Post]
    Don't kid yourself. Saying you will keep your guard up helps very little. When they want to snatch you off the street or put you on the floor they will do it from behind you won't see it coming. It won't involve a long argument or any words at all to warn you about upcoming danger. All you can do is hide the passport asume everything else will get taken.
    This is why you always keep your head on a swivel, walk confidently, and make it obvious you're aware of your surroundings. These guys are likely to focus on easy pickings and this will make you appear like you're not worth the trouble.

  8. #1502
    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    I agree this should be lesson to all of us to keep our guard up at all times in Mexico. The unfortunate fact is that many Mexican's view us as rich gringo's that are a opportunity to rob, scam and or extort money from us. The best thing to do is to avoid violence.
    Don't kid yourself. Saying you will keep your guard up helps very little. When they want to snatch you off the street or put you on the floor they will do it from behind you won't see it coming. It won't involve a long argument or any words at all to warn you about upcoming danger. All you can do is hide the passport asume everything else will get taken.

  9. #1501

    US slaps highest-level 'do not travel' warning on five Mexican states.

    "All five states- Tamaulipas on the USA Border and Sinaloa, Colima, Michoacan and Guerrero on the Pacific coast- are hotspots of drug cartel activity, either hosting trafficking routes or extensive drug-crop cultivation.

    The new warning system designates the states as a "level 4" risk, the highest level of potential danger. Mexico as a whole has a level 2 rating, meaning Americans should "exercise increased caution" because of concerns about crime. But an additional 11 Mexican states got a level 3 warning Wednesday, which urges people to "reconsider travel" there. Mexico has 31 states in all. . ."

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/01...an-states.html

  10. #1500
    I agree this should be lesson to all of us to keep our guard up at all times in Mexico. The unfortunate fact is that many Mexican's view us as rich gringo's that are a opportunity to rob, scam and or extort money from us. The best thing to do is to avoid violence.

    Quote Originally Posted by NegotiateHard  [View Original Post]
    Being that far away from the USA Put this man at a huge disadvantage IMO. In places like HK, you do tend do read many stories of problems being resolved smoothly between loud, unsatisfied customers and management. However, when you are this far from home and especially if you don't speak the language (I'm only assuming that he didn't speak Spanish but who knows?) you are getting yourself into problems. Guerrero is not a state where you want to mess around, especially in 2018. Complaining and demanding money back may work out in some places in Tijuana, but I can picture how bad it could get in a place that far from the border where Gringos are in small numbers and there are lots of crazy guys ready to pull a trigger than work out the problem.

  11. #1499

    Douglas Scott Bradley, Imperial Beach city official.

    This guy worked in San Diego but lived in Las Playas, Tijuana. He spoke Spanish and was an experienced monger, probably hung out in HK a few nights a week after work. He lived in and was very familiar with Mexico. I hate to speculate what he did to escalate it into a murder. I heard complaints from locals that Mexican Americans tend to act rude and haughty towards them. When in Mexico, it's wise not to act lordly, arrogant, aggressive towards locals in places where macho criminals hang out with guns. They are not known to be God-fearing, law-abiding civilized people and likely enjoy blowing someone's head out just for fun and excitement.

    Ixtapa and Zihuantanejo used to cater to upscale tourists with exclusive, ritzy resorts. But Alcapulco, Cancun, Cabos, PV, all tourist resorts and the back lands have turned into brutal and bloody war zones wherever drug cartels sell or manufacture drugs. If you hang out on Mexico beaches, there will be droves of men, women, children coming by, asking you if you want to buy anything or drugs. Damn. Drugs use and sales are everywhere in Mexico and they turn people into beasts.

    Just my opinion, Tijuana is not safer or more civilized than other towns. Last time I overheard a dispute in hotel Cascada between a bro, a HK girl, HK managers and security guards, the arguments were very loud and heated by both sides. I would suggest that the bros write down names of chicas and HK give the chicas an ID number with names, so we know whom we are dealing with. If you have a serious conflict, bring it down to the management at the bar, in front of a lot of people and dozens of security camera, so the incidents can be recorded in front of witnesses. You can tell them to call in policia to get the facts down in police records. The disruption and notorieties with the inconvenience to the bar will give them incentives to settle quickly.

    The bros should ask for a check of the chicas' health inspection cards. Get their names down so they cannot screw you then get off easily. Share names of problem girls so others won't run into the same problems, and to keep the rest of the chicas honest. Chicas who cause problems are usually fired by the bars.

    Re. NegotiateHard.

    Being that far away from the USA Put this man at a huge disadvantage IMO. In places like HK, you do tend do read many stories of problems being resolved smoothly between loud, unsatisfied customers and management. However, when you are this far from home and especially if you don't speak the language (I'm only assuming that he didn't speak Spanish but who knows?) you are getting yourself into problems. Guerrero is not a state where you want to mess around, especially in 2018. Complaining and demanding money back may work out in some places in Tijuana, but I can picture how bad it could get in a place that far from the border where Gringos are in small numbers and there are lots of crazy guys ready to pull a trigger than work out the problem.

  12. #1498
    Quote Originally Posted by NegotiateHard  [View Original Post]
    Being that far away from the USA Put this man at a huge disadvantage IMO. In places like HK, you do tend do read many stories of problems being resolved smoothly between loud, unsatisfied customers and management. However, when you are this far from home and especially if you don't speak the language (I'm only assuming that he didn't speak Spanish but who knows?) you are getting yourself into problems. Guerrero is not a state where you want to mess around, especially in 2018. Complaining and demanding money back may work out in some places in Tijuana, but I can picture how bad it could get in a place that far from the border where Gringos are in small numbers and there are lots of crazy guys ready to pull a trigger than work out the problem.
    Well this right here is why I say do not pay 1st.

  13. #1497

    Location, location, location

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]

    Try to resolve conflicts with chicas nicely and not let them escalate to the shouting, threatening stages. It's far better to stay alive to fuck 3 or 4 sweet, hot young girls a night than lying butt naked in a cold, filthy morgue.

    http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/0...an-ixtapa.html#more.

    GRO: Suspect arrested in American Ixtapa Beach murder, argument over theft.

    Prostitute, stolen money, led to murder.
    Being that far away from the USA Put this man at a huge disadvantage IMO. In places like HK, you do tend do read many stories of problems being resolved smoothly between loud, unsatisfied customers and management. However, when you are this far from home and especially if you don't speak the language (I'm only assuming that he didn't speak Spanish but who knows?) you are getting yourself into problems. Guerrero is not a state where you want to mess around, especially in 2018. Complaining and demanding money back may work out in some places in Tijuana, but I can picture how bad it could get in a place that far from the border where Gringos are in small numbers and there are lots of crazy guys ready to pull a trigger than work out the problem.

  14. #1496

    Imperial beach official murdered over money stolen by a prostitute.

    A high percentage of prostitutes in Mexico are hard-core drugs addicts. A hot girl in Tropical would sneak out to the back alley every half hour, between fichas, to smoke crack. They would steal or even kill to support their habits.

    It was not smart to let them steal his money, then got beaten up and murdered for a small amount of money. While I never had anything stolen from me in Mexico in the last 17 years, I will always keep my wallet with me or within eyesight, even with girls I have known for years, just so there are no suspicion or misunderstandings.

    Try to resolve conflicts with chicas nicely and not let them escalate to the shouting, threatening stages. It's far better to stay alive to fuck 3 or 4 sweet, hot young girls a night than lying butt naked in a cold, filthy morgue.

    http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/0...an-ixtapa.html#more.

    GRO: Suspect arrested in American Ixtapa Beach murder, argument over theft.

    Prostitute, stolen money, led to murder.

    The man who allegedly shot and killed California city official, Douglas Scott Bradley, on December 28 in Ixtapa-Zihuatanejo was arrested in this capital, Guerrero's Attorney General, Xavier Olea said.

    The director of Administrative Services in the city of Imperial Beach in California, according to Olea, was reportedly killed after having an argument with a bar worker who he accused of stealing money.

    The 50-year-old official would have been in the bar 40-20, where he hired the sex services of a woman named Africa or Keila and with whom he went to a hotel.

    However, according to the Prosecutor, Bradley had an altercation with the woman and went back to bar 40-20 denouncing the theft and demanding the return of his money.

    At the bar there erupted several altercations by employees of the bar and clients, and when leaving the business he was followed by an individual, who shot to him.

    The alleged murderer, identified as Isidro "and" alias "El Chiro", used a. 45 caliber pistol to kill his victim, whom he shot at a distance of between three or four meters.

  15. #1495

    California Official Murdered in Mexico.

    The latest information about the California City Official murdered in Mexico.

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxne...exico.amp.html

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