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  1. #6505

    Back at sxm

    Hey mel, I will be back at sxm from April 16th to 23rd. Let me know if you want to get together. Cheers.

  2. #6504
    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimeSxm  [View Original Post]
    The Joanna working in Carolina's has worked there before, she did a 3 month contract back in winter 2013/2014. I know it's her as I had her 4 x back then and her English was poor, great sex though and she used to always widen her eyes while looking at me on top, she has good abs too.

    She was also working summer 2016 as my friend had her, she came back end of December 2016.

    She told me her real name, whether it's true or I don't know but it begins with L.
    Thanks for the info. It may or may not be the same one. The Johanna I know was there in the March of 2015. She has other names that I know of so who knows.

    Guess I'll find out next week.

    Barkey.

  3. #6503

    Joanna

    The Joanna working in Carolina's has worked there before, she did a 3 month contract back in winter 2013/2014. I know it's her as I had her 4 x back then and her English was poor, great sex though and she used to always widen her eyes while looking at me on top, she has good abs too.

    She was also working summer 2016 as my friend had her, she came back end of December 2016.

    She told me her real name, whether it's true or I don't know but it begins with L.

  4. #6502
    Quote Originally Posted by Mel365  [View Original Post]
    Sorry,

    I arrive on April 18th.

    Best,

    Mel.
    Too bad. I was hoping to meet up with you one of these trips. Oh well, I will let you know what I find.

    Barkey.

  5. #6501
    Sorry,

    I arrive on April 18th.

    Best,

    Mel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barkey  [View Original Post]
    I'll be arriving Thursday the 30th and leaving April 6th. If you are around I would be happy to meet you and share a beer or two.

    Barkey.

  6. #6500
    Quote Originally Posted by Barkey  [View Original Post]
    I'll be arriving Thursday the 30th and leaving April 6th. If you are around I would be happy to meet you and share a beer or two.

    Barkey.
    Arriving tomorrow morning, will be verifying some recent reports that seem almost too good to be true. Staying through April 2nd, anybody looking for wingman, share a few stories and have a beer please send me a message. The Johanna at Carolinas hasn't been to SXM previously to the best of my knowledge, she is still there but will be heading back home within a few weeks.

  7. #6499
    Quote Originally Posted by Mel365  [View Original Post]
    What dates will you be on island?
    I'll be arriving Thursday the 30th and leaving April 6th. If you are around I would be happy to meet you and share a beer or two.

    Barkey.

  8. #6498

    Barkey

    What dates will you be on island?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barkey  [View Original Post]
    KB.

    It's great to hear that things seem to be getting back to normal. Sounds like this trip is a little more sexcessful that the last time. The timing sucked.

    I look forward to seeing your reports and I am counting the days (7) until I get to find out for myself. It's too bad we just missed each other. Have a few cold ones and a few hot ones for me too. I'll do the same for you.

    A couple of reports not too far back said that there was a Johanna there. The same one I wonder.

    Have fun!

    Barkey.

  9. #6497
    Quote Originally Posted by Knoteebuoy  [View Original Post]
    Hey Barkey,

    Have been on the island a few days. The standard pricing applies at Crystals.

    The talent pool is pretty good at both Crystals and Carolinas. Casa Blanca is not worth the time or trouble to check out. The 3 girls are either high mileage or lack enthusiasm. I have not checked out the other Casa's.

    The immigration issues do not appear to be resolved but sufficiently improved to make your trip worth while.

    Heading out for another night of pillaging and debauchery.

    Knoteebuoy.
    KB.

    It's great to hear that things seem to be getting back to normal. Sounds like this trip is a little more sexcessful that the last time. The timing sucked.

    I look forward to seeing your reports and I am counting the days (7) until I get to find out for myself. It's too bad we just missed each other. Have a few cold ones and a few hot ones for me too. I'll do the same for you.

    A couple of reports not too far back said that there was a Johanna there. The same one I wonder.

    Have fun!

    Barkey.

  10. #6496

    Barkey

    Quote Originally Posted by Barkey  [View Original Post]
    Now that Crystal's seems to be a good spot again, is the "standard" pricing about the same as Carolinas or the old Hypnotiqe. $50/30 minutes $100 HR?
    Hey Barkey,

    Have been on the island a few days. The standard pricing applies at Crystals.

    The talent pool is pretty good at both Crystals and Carolinas. Casa Blanca is not worth the time or trouble to check out. The 3 girls are either high mileage or lack enthusiasm. I have not checked out the other Casa's.

    The immigration issues do not appear to be resolved but sufficiently improved to make your trip worth while.

    Heading out for another night of pillaging and debauchery.

    Knoteebuoy.

  11. #6495
    Gringo,

    I would rent a car. It is not safe to walk between Carolinas and El Capitan etc. The car is usually cheaper in the long run.
    A cab ride from the clubs at night to the westin can be 20+dollars

    The house fee is paid up front in the bar. Or on the way to the rooms. If the chica wants to be paid up front I take this as a very bad sign and usually head for the door. Most often it is a sign of poor performance.

    A friend of mine who owns a few clubs always prefers Colombianas as they are honest for the most part and you don't have to watch your wallet. I also find them much more GFE than the Dominicanas.

    When a chica leaves a club they always put on street clothes. You shouldn't have any problem getting one up to your room.

    The taxi drivers charge extra for late night, again a car is much better and the clubs are mostly far from the Westin.

    The clubs are basically bars with chicas looking to hook up, like medellin or campo.

    I think people who pay crazy numbers for dance club pussy are Loco. Why pay $500-500 when you can get the same for 100 in suckerdarten

    The chicas do not want their faces in photos. Many are mothers with families at home and are doing this just to earn money to live or to go to college. The last thig that they want is their photo plastered on the internet.

  12. #6494
    Hey Gringo,
    Welcome to SXM! I will answer where I can:

    1. Never done it at Westin, but I have heard that all hotels on the island are chica-friendly except for all-inclusive hotels (for obvious reasons). Just be discreet (I have never had a problem).

    2. It's a 5- 10 mnts ride to those casas. Maybe 10 dollars? Maybe a bit more? Casablanca possibly only 5 dollars? You can afford it. Always agree the cab fare upfront (fixed price).

    4. That way you describe it is spot on. Occasionally a chica will ask for payment upfront, but IME that is rare (note: I can't speak for Casablanca, which I think used to be different).

    5. The SXM casas are basically bars where you drink and hang out with the chicas. Expect loud latin music. At times the girls will dance on the floor, at the bar, or do a pole dance (how much varies a little between the clubs). Buy a chica a 5 dollar copa, and she will dance for you right there (can be steaming hot!). Watching dance moves is nice, but nothing beats interaction with the chica IME.

    6. There is defintively a cultural difference. Which one is the "better" is a matter of taste. Colombianas tends to be more sweet and GFE-ish, while Dominicanas can be more hardcore and direct. But this is generalizations. BTW, Carolina's is usually the best place for goodlooking Colombianas. Not to be missed!

    7. If you want value for money, then skip the strip clubs like PR and focus on the casas. The strip club are good for variation to the casas and is a nice addition to the adult scene on the island. PR is a decent if not even a very good strip club and definitively worth a (short) visit. But keep your priorites right: Casas first!

    Note: The casas are usually very quiet untill 8- 9 pm, and it doesn't really take off before 10pm.

    Have fun!

    -S16.

  13. #6493

    Early April Trip to SXM

    I will be in SXM from April 2 to April 6. I will be working during the day, but I will be free to monger at night. I have thus been RTFF'ing, and I have a few questions and observations for the SXM veterans on this thread. Also, feel free to hit me up if you will be on the island within that time frame.

    1) I will be staying at the Westin. My impression of such hotels in SXM and elsewhere in the Caribbean is that they are not officially chica-friendly, but one should not have problems bringing a girl back to one's room, as long as she does not dress like a glaringly obvious puta. Does that sound right?

    2) How much should I expect to pay in cab fare between the Westin and; a) Carolina's / Crystal's / El Capitan; or b) Casablanca / Sunset Retreat? I tried using the taxi zone map and chart from an old post on this thread, but it was not clear which zones they were in.

    3) Does anyone have any photos of the well-reviewed chicas that posters have mentioned in recent months, E. G. Luisa and Esmeralda from Crystal's? I have been making notes on their names and descriptions, but photos would make it a lot easier to recognize them.

    4) On a procedural note, do you pay the house the room rental fee up front and then pay the chica the negotiated rate after the session, as you would with free-range chicas in other environments? Have you encountered any issues with chicas asking for payment for the sessions up front?

    5) Are these clubs more like the casas or strip clubs in places like Colombia or Costa Rica? I saw references to chicas dancing on stage, but in other ways they sounded more like casas, albeit with more opportunity for social interaction before choosing your chica. As for those with stage performances, how useful did you find those performances in guiding your selection of chicas?

    6) My impression is that contributors to this thread generally prefer the Colombian talent in the SXM clubs to the Dominican talent. I can imagine why they might have such a preference, having been to both Colombia and the DR, as well as Campo Alegre in Curacao, where the Dominicans paled in comparison to the Colombians. Would you agree or disagree, and why?

    7) It sounds like the Platinum Room differs little in its offerings from a USA Strip club, except for the expensive take out option. It does not sound like a good value for the money, compared to the other clubs, unless one has a special interest in its Eastern European talent. I do like Eastern Europeans, but not as much as Latinas, and there are plenty of Eastern Europeans at the strip clubs here in New York. In fact, I met a Ukrainian stripper here in New York who used to work at the Platinum Room, and she encouraged me to go there. Would you agree or disagree?

  14. #6492

    Legal Employment Agreements In The St. Maarten Sex Industry?

    This was a Letter To The Editor The Daily Herald of St. Maarten:

    Dear Editor,

    Last Tuesday, the case of Casa Blanca was heard at the Court of First Instance of St. Maarten. Casa Blanca and its principles are charged with human exploitation and tax fraud.

    According to the Public Prosecutor, Casa Blanca had concluded employment agreements with its sex workers and therefore, should have reported the revenues for the sexual services by the women for tax purposes.

    At first glance, this standpoint seems logical; however, there are serious caveats.

    Firstly, it should be asked why a club would conclude employment agreements with sex workers because there are no obvious benefits for the club in doing so; neither the club nor the sex worker consider the contract as an actual employment relationship. The only purpose of these agreements is to acquire work permits for the sex workers. The sex workers cannot request nor acquire these permits themselves according to the current permit system that is in place in St. Maarten.

    The St. Maarten government is evaluating to change this system into a system wherein the sex worker may request the work permit as an independent entrepreneur. Apparently, this system is already in place in Statia. An employment relation with a sex worker is also not morally accepted here in St. Maarten or the other Dutch Caribbean islands of Aruba, Curaao or BES.

    Notwithstanding the above, there are even more pressing legal arguments as to why the employment contracts with sex workers should be considered null and void.

    The existence of an employment agreement is condition to certain legal requirements being met, I. E. (I) the employee has to perform work, (ii) the employer has to pay salary to the employee, and (iii) the employer should have the power to give instructions to the employee. All three requirements should be met or else there is no legal employment agreement.

    Casa Blanca makes its money from the room rentals to the sex workers. The revenues for the sexual services are for the women. The client pays the sex worker for her services and the club withholds rent money on said revenues as well as a small service charge fee. Under this scenario, there are evidently two separate and independent entrepreneurs at play, I. E. The club and the sex worker. This is confirmed by case law.

    More importantly, however, is the moral and ethical issues surrounding the treatment of sex workers in St. Maarten, which excludes the existence of legal employment agreements. To mention a simple example, an employment contract with a slave is illegal (at least according to our laws). In the same way, employment agreements with workers whom are being treated unethically are also considered null and void.

    The alleged unethical treatment of sex workers in St. Maarten has gotten so out of control that the government decided to stop the issuance of work permits for sex workers as of 2015. Local clubs, including Casa Blanca, are accused of exploitation of the women who work there. This environment is evidently not suitable for and in conflict with a legally binding and enforceable employment agreement.

    The Highest Court has decided that an employment agreement with a sex worker is perfectly acceptable unless the agreement would have to be considered unethical based on the specific circumstances, e. G. In case of exploitation.

    It comes down to the following the Public Prosecutor cannot have it both ways. If it charges and prosecutes local clubs for allegedly exploiting sex workers, then it is not possible to also go after the same clubs for not having reported the revenues of the sex workers for tax purposes. By doing so, the Prosecutor assumes the existence of legally binding employment agreements, which is not the case. If there is no employment relationship for civil law purposes, then the same applies for tax purposes. Tax wise, the sex workers are independent entrepreneurs and should be separately taxed as such. This way, taxation in St. Maarten would be in alignment with reality. No double dips for the Prosecutor's Office and certainly not for the tax department.

    Richie J. Kock,

    Attorney-at-law.

    The letter is at: https://thedailyherald.sx/opinion/le...n-sex-industry.

  15. #6491

    Red diamond

    Yes, my friend made the deal with girl as she was not working, they start work at 10 pm.

    He met the girl in the Piano bar in Pelican key last Monday night. If you go there tonight at around 11 pm you will see the girls working in packs, I counted around 6 last time. The girls were on their night off.

    It maybe worth checking out the Pool bar on the 1st floor of the building opposite Red Diamond, I heard that's were the Eastern European girls hang out but that needs confirming. I know a number of girls live in the 2nd floor as I used to go to the Mega Gym and you could see them all coming and going from that building.

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