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  1. #21855

    Times Long Gone

    I agree. It was so much better 7 years ago. I blame the koreans. A small part of me wishes NK, would send some missiles over the border. JUST KIDDING about the missile. But not kidding about blaming the koreans.

    Everytime a see a bar / club close and a new hotel open, I shed a tear.

    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    Just concluded a trip to AC and not sure if it is worth returning any time soon. When I first came here 7 years ago, the bars were a lot more fun and exciting.

    1. Now, even on Friday and Saturday nights, Walking Street is not that busy. It used to have a real carnival atmosphere before.

    2. Cherry girls are now almost absent. In the past, waitresses used to point out the cherry girls and say they're worth 50,000 or 100,000 or whatever. I didn't see one cherry this time. It was such a stupid scam that I guess it was going to die out anyway.

    3. Still lots of Korean investment going on. Probably Korean mafia with the sponsorship of local politicians and LE to launder money. No legitimate businessman invests in prostitution, massage parlours and bars.

    4. Viagra and Cialis can help you get hard in 30 minutes but do nothing to fix declining libido and general tiredness. You can't beat the basic rules of economics. The law of diminishing marginal returns. After day 5, the last thing you want is more Pinay pussy, even if its free. I'm not sure how some of the forum members can bang 20 girls a week. Maybe they're younger or maybe they're just making it up.

    5. Saw heaps and heaps of instant couples, but no one looked happy. The foreign guy was absorbed in his thoughts elsewhere and the Pinay LT barfine was immersed in her social media. Absolutely no communication going on between them. After the deed has been done, what else is there to do? That's why I never keep them LT.

    6. The highlight for me was staying at the ABC Hotel. Sure it wouldn't rate a mention if you took it out of the Philippines, but the fact that it's an oasis in the middle of a complete shithole makes it unique.

    7. Couldn't see any overt anti-western sentiment in any bars I went to. Sure, some of the girls didn't even look at me, but that used to happen before anyway. I would wait for the girl to make eye contact and then ask her to come down from the stage. I chatted to a wise old American guy at the front counter at Kokomos and we watched the girls going to work at 6. 00 pm. He said some bars were specifically for Koreans, like Club XS. I said that wasn't the case for me. I went to watch the very good dance show at XS, and within 5 minutes a lovely young waitresses was sitting on my lap. I think the problem becomes self-perpetuating if you let it. Just walk into any bar like you own the joint.

    8. Didn't see any Koreans do crazy things this time. In the past they would get on the top floor of Club Ra or Atlantis and make it rain money. They would also let the tequila flow with about 10 hotties around them. Everything was all rather subdued this time around.

    9. Hans Leopold, the German owner of Angel Bakery next to the ABC is doing great business. He's expanded his restaurant and its now full all day. The food is better than elsewhere and good value. He seems to be very hands on supervising every aspect of the operation.

  2. #21854

    Korean Talk

    This topic comes up pretty frequently. Koreans are easy money. Its very rare that they're cheap. They travel in groups, and theres a culture of saving face when it comes to money. They're not retirees trying to live off a limited budget. They're on vacation usually. Angeles is a quick 3 or 4 hour flight for them. Theres also a culture of sitting around and drinking with your friends with pretty girls next to you. You don't need to talk to the girls, but its nice to just have one by your side serving you. I quite often hear about girls getting barfined just to go out and drink / party with koreans. No sex. How crazy is that? I don't know about small dicks. I'm not korean. But some girls like small dicks. Some girls like large dicks. But all girls like money. I think you just need to show that you have money and are willing to spend it. I. E. You're not going to be cheap. And I agree with Engine Driver here. A minimal amount of effort to shave, shower and dress decently goes a long way. There you have it. Having said that. I'm a cheap charlie asian. Why pay more that you need to? Duh.

    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    I don't think the girls can afford to be so choosy anymore. There's a lot of competition for punters and social media apps are a genuine disrupter to the established order of bricks and mortar.

    Some forum members have claimed to be shunned at the Korean owned establishments, but at the end of the day, money talks. If you make a bit of an effort to bathe, put on a collared shirt, shave and comb your hair, you're likely to be less repulsive.

    Some people on this board have said that the girls like Koreans because their dicks are small or that they're very generous. Don't believe that crap. Most of the girls I have barfined have said they dislike Koreans because they are rude, spit on them during sex, handle them rough and expect them to stay till 12.00 noon the next day or else no tip. Not one girl mentioned dick size or generosity. Don't give the 3-3-3 rubbish any air time.

  3. #21853
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    I've never been to AC so I'm asking this out of pure curiosity. Are the girls specially waiting for Asian customers like they are at Thermae or Thaniya Road in Bangkok?
    I don't think the girls can afford to be so choosy anymore. There's a lot of competition for punters and social media apps are a genuine disrupter to the established order of bricks and mortar.

    Some forum members have claimed to be shunned at the Korean owned establishments, but at the end of the day, money talks. If you make a bit of an effort to bathe, put on a collared shirt, shave and comb your hair, you're likely to be less repulsive.

    Some people on this board have said that the girls like Koreans because their dicks are small or that they're very generous. Don't believe that crap. Most of the girls I have barfined have said they dislike Koreans because they are rude, spit on them during sex, handle them rough and expect them to stay till 12.00 noon the next day or else no tip. Not one girl mentioned dick size or generosity. Don't give the 3-3-3 rubbish any air time.

  4. #21852
    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    Couldn't see any overt anti-western sentiment in any bars I went to. Sure, some of the girls didn't even look at me, but that used to happen before anyway.
    I've never been to AC so I'm asking this out of pure curiosity. Are the girls specially waiting for Asian customers like they are at Thermae or Thaniya Road in Bangkok?

  5. #21851
    Just concluded a trip to AC and not sure if it is worth returning any time soon. When I first came here 7 years ago, the bars were a lot more fun and exciting.

    1. Now, even on Friday and Saturday nights, Walking Street is not that busy. It used to have a real carnival atmosphere before.

    2. Cherry girls are now almost absent. In the past, waitresses used to point out the cherry girls and say they're worth 50,000 or 100,000 or whatever. I didn't see one cherry this time. It was such a stupid scam that I guess it was going to die out anyway.

    3. Still lots of Korean investment going on. Probably Korean mafia with the sponsorship of local politicians and LE to launder money. No legitimate businessman invests in prostitution, massage parlours and bars.

    4. Viagra and Cialis can help you get hard in 30 minutes but do nothing to fix declining libido and general tiredness. You can't beat the basic rules of economics. The law of diminishing marginal returns. After day 5, the last thing you want is more Pinay pussy, even if its free. I'm not sure how some of the forum members can bang 20 girls a week. Maybe they're younger or maybe they're just making it up.

    5. Saw heaps and heaps of instant couples, but no one looked happy. The foreign guy was absorbed in his thoughts elsewhere and the Pinay LT barfine was immersed in her social media. Absolutely no communication going on between them. After the deed has been done, what else is there to do? That's why I never keep them LT.

    6. The highlight for me was staying at the ABC Hotel. Sure it wouldn't rate a mention if you took it out of the Philippines, but the fact that it's an oasis in the middle of a complete shithole makes it unique.

    7. Couldn't see any overt anti-western sentiment in any bars I went to. Sure, some of the girls didn't even look at me, but that used to happen before anyway. I would wait for the girl to make eye contact and then ask her to come down from the stage. I chatted to a wise old American guy at the front counter at Kokomos and we watched the girls going to work at 6. 00 pm. He said some bars were specifically for Koreans, like Club XS. I said that wasn't the case for me. I went to watch the very good dance show at XS, and within 5 minutes a lovely young waitresses was sitting on my lap. I think the problem becomes self-perpetuating if you let it. Just walk into any bar like you own the joint.

    8. Didn't see any Koreans do crazy things this time. In the past they would get on the top floor of Club Ra or Atlantis and make it rain money. They would also let the tequila flow with about 10 hotties around them. Everything was all rather subdued this time around.

    9. Hans Leopold, the German owner of Angel Bakery next to the ABC is doing great business. He's expanded his restaurant and its now full all day. The food is better than elsewhere and good value. He seems to be very hands on supervising every aspect of the operation.

  6. #21850

    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by CasperStake  [View Original Post]
    90% of bars here have gone to shit. 90% of the women are fucking fat, ugly, old, or a combination of those 3. Koreans are taking over, and they simply don't give a fuck and it is obvious. AC has 5 years left, tops, before it is 'done' similar to Makati. Enjoy it while you can. Once the old white guys all die, this place is so over.

    I will only list my worthwhile bars here, IE the places where I went to spend money and returned to regularly because they had a decent concentration of good, attractive girls.

    Overall the "wolfpack group" bars have retained the "feel" of AC that westerners are looking for, and focus on party atmosphere, naughty / wild girls, and a semi-no-limits environment provided everybody is drunk enough. Remember: If you want your Filipino cutie to lose her inhibitions, tequila shots are how you do it.

    - Lollipop, hands down the best place to have a fucking awesome night in AC. Lots of smoking hot little Filipinos. Some of them are legit crazy. But its okay. Renalyn, Jizael, Mei, Jenny are some of the all stars here. Jenny in particular is super cute, and super naughty. She will have her tongue down your throat in under 10 minutes if you dress well, smell nice, and aren't 70 years old. Get her to bring her friend over and have fun watching some deep lesbian french kissing and titty sucking. Really nice. Three some potential is huge for this bar, lots of these chicks are either extremely good actors, or legitimately love making out with their co-workers and eating pussy. I've got a pretty critical eye for fake-lesbo behavior, and even I was convinced. Like I've had to pull one of these girls off another one because she had her pinned down in the booth seat and was practically her. Good times to be had. Just do not expect them to go wild unless you do your part to encourage them. Downside. Crowded as fuck, because it is one of the few bars still doing it right.

    - Salambo, has a nice selection of tiny, cute "spinner" type Filipinos. Not quite a crazy bar, and you can't get away with too much here. Listed because it does have some very attractive young women at the moment. For some reason a lot of girls show up here. If you like them young, dumb, and soon to be full of your cum. Check it out.

    - Bamboo, can get really wild. Go upstairs for more 'privacy', and the girls will get freaky. Has some really attractive women. There is one girl in particular with huge tits and a banging, skinny teenage body and really wide hips. You will know her when you see her. Treat her well and she will take you to heaven. Tried to convince her to quit the bar and get a job modeling (seriously), but she's a provincial and doesn't value her good looks how she should (yet). She would rather get paid a few thousand pesos to have sex with old guys a couple times a week. *Shrug*, its her life.

    - Shooterz, semi renovated. Has a few cuties, and can also get wild. Some days its dead and full of fat chicks, occasionally a few smoking hot little things show up for some reason. There is no rhyme or reason to their scheduling here. If you walk in and the stage is full of fat old women, just walk out, because its a dead night.

    - After Dark, has some cuties, door girl "Anne" is a star. Put some tequila in her and she will go crazy. Nice 'semi-no-limits' environment also. Had a lot of good times here.

    - Q-bar, not very many good looking girls, but if you are drunk then it can get wild and they are 'acceptable' enough to get frisky with. The only time I have had a Filipino lady ask me to fuck her in the ass, was with a chick from here. I don't like giving anal personally, but I indulged her. She came very messily from being fucked in the ass, and it was pretty awesome, one of the few times I have ever seen a woman 'squirt', even if it was just some really messy dripping from the pussy. Lady knew what she likes I guess. Room smelled like pussy for two days. Sadly, she doesn't work there anymore. Probably got proposed marriage by a foreigner. LOL.

    - Shipwrecked, went through renovation recently. A few decent looking chicks. Occasional 'out of place' new girl shows up that is fresh for the plucking. Worth stopping by every time you head out for the evening just to see what arrived. Some cuties, some girls claiming to be 'cherry girls' (bullshit), while being 25+.

    - Perimeter bars, worth doing a sweep to see if any fit young ladies have recently arrived. Cheap drinks. Mostly dead.

    - Far perimeter day bars, in vicinity of Clarkton hotel. Korean style establishments, but has an occasional gorgeous young thing that is just as intrigued by white men as she is by Asians. Don't bother sitting down for a drink if you don't see something you like straight away. Staff will give you the stink eye, because they know that you, being a non-Korean of Japanese, will not spend 8000 pesos on buying a mile-high stack of beers for the waitresses. I always laugh my ass off whenever I stop by, because these shitty day bars could get so much more business if they dropped this very dumb attitude. If you spot something good, sit down and buy her a drink, then take her out and go somewhere else. These bars suck for privacy, and a gaggle of waitresses will crowd around you as soon as you pick a lady, because they are, desperate, and rude as hell, fully expecting you to throw piles of money into the air for them.
    Solid posting.

  7. #21849
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    Angeles City has so many more posts. Why is it so much more popular than Manila?
    RTFF some more and you will soon realize that the highly educated, debonair, classy and more affluent beer belly mongers know the values of Angeles the best and can articulate it better.

    Please pay attention as they know the price of everything.

  8. #21848
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    When I was at Aqua last month some guy was having a birthday party. It was a bunch of his friends and some girls they had rented and a big cake. They had a cabana and were having fun in the pool. They were not wearing 3 piece suits and Italian loafers.
    Man that's funny. Just saw a big foreign guy with four local country bumpkins in tow at Aqua all of whom were wearing white bath robes. They all seemed really excited. Hope he has enough energy for four pops later tonight.

    My comment was that after 10.00 pm when no one is swimming, a pair of shoes would be better than flip flops. Not mandating a top hat and cane with your three piece suit. LOL.

  9. #21847

    Return of Handsome Man.

    Well I'm heading back to the Philippines after only 6 months. It's enough with these LA vanilla chicks. I had such a great time last time in Makati and AC. You can read my very long and detailed report here.

    Handsome man in the Philippines.

    http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...light=handsome+man#post2079253.

    I got a lot of good feedback from my post, and also a fair amount of criticism for the detail I gave, but I stand by my assertion: Take the medical precautions I outline in the post, which protect us all, and go nuts.

    Only one night in Makati this time. Will probably check out Kojaxx this time, and Osaka massage, which sounds right up my alley.

    Then will have 10 days in AC. I really dig the fact that I can do nothing all day and then bed a new hottie every night. Every night is a different adventure waiting to happen. My problem last time was that I couldn't go to High Society without getting bothered by chicks I had hooked up with in the past. I'm guessing this still might be a problem. Bar girls and HiSo girls still message me and ask me when I'll be there next. I don't want any repeats from last time so I'll have to be firm but charming in my dismissal of past chicks when I see them. The city is so small and I stand out. I very much enjoy the social aspect of the city beyond just the sex. And I don't want to be seen as a douchebag.

    I might bring my shoes and play some hoops during the day. There are courts just across the street north of Phillies. Anyone done this? As articulated in my previous post I got the invite to play with some locals but was A) too hungover and B) didn't have my shoes.

    I really want some daytime massages with slow lubed long-time handjobs. I couldn't find this last time despite my best efforts. Hotties are not a prerequesite for this. Skilled handywork is. PM me if you know a place that offers this.

    Will give a detailed report upon my return. Very much looking forward to it.

  10. #21846
    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    Yes the massage shops on MacArthur are indeed 50 PHP more (that's $1), but they won't short change you on time like the old hags near Fields do, the places are neat and clean, the therapist has been properly trained, the sheets are changed between each customer, they don't have LBs wanting to fondle your dick, the air conditioner will work. I can go on.
    LOL. Damn man. What kind of massage shops have you been visiting. Let me recommend to you a place where my exgirlfriend works. It is called Reign. It is on a side street off Fields. I think the pharmacy is on one corner and a grocery store on the other. The shop is across from the green hotel. They are all certified and every year go to some type of massage olympics held in Manila.

    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    Sure, it's not quite a Hi-so club compared to New York, Berlin or Singapore, but at least give the owner some credit for being a bit innovative. Geez, you're better off staying home man.
    When I was at Aqua last month some guy was having a birthday party. It was a bunch of his friends and some girls they had rented and a big cake. They had a cabana and were having fun in the pool. They were not wearing 3 piece suits and Italian loafers.
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  11. #21845
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    The massage shops there do not open until at least 2 pm and they cost more than the ones around Fields.

    Except it ain't a nice club back home. It is a bar with a pool. I think the Koreans were dressed properly and the Western males were overdressed.
    Yes the massage shops on MacArthur are indeed 50 PHP more (that's $1), but they won't short change you on time like the old hags near Fields do, the places are neat and clean, the therapist has been properly trained, the sheets are changed between each customer, they don't have LBs wanting to fondle your dick, the air conditioner will work. I can go on.

    Mr E, maybe to save $1, you may want to put up with all that, but I don't. LOL. Sometimes your sense of value for money is a little off.

    Sure, it's not quite a Hi-so club compared to New York, Berlin or Singapore, but at least give the owner some credit for being a bit innovative. Geez, you're better off staying home man.

  12. #21844
    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    2. If you can escape from the red-light zone around Fields Ave for a few minutes, go for a walk along MacArthur Highway. Just turn right at the McDonalds end of Walking Street. There's a casino, gym, restaurants, massage shops etc which locals use. The service is a bit more sincere.
    The massage shops there do not open until at least 2pm and they cost more than the ones around Fields.

    Quote Originally Posted by Engine Driver  [View Original Post]
    7. While at Aqua, I did a reconnaissance mission at around 10.00 pm and counted about 16 FLs. Most were sitting in groups of twos or threes around the bar area. It's free entry for women, but I'm not sure if their drinks are complimentary. I suppose the protocol is to buy one of them a drink and start the negotiations.
    What is this mentality of having to buy drinks for and cater to hookers? I was in Phnom Penh last week and the system there has totally gone to shit. Now it is all about buying drinks for yourself and chicks that work in the bar and them later saying they do not barfine. They will not discuss anything until you have asked for the drinks. Then after the drinks are poured they will spring it on you that they do not go with customers.

    Quote Originally Posted by EngineDriver  [View Original Post]
    8. Most of the western males at Aqua were dressed neatly, at least wearing shoes. But then in comes a bunch of Koreans, may be pack of 10, all dressed like slobs. Singlets, flip flops and the ubiquitous fanny pack around their chests. I found it a bit disrespectful. They wouldn't dress like that in a nice club back home, so why treat the Filipinos so disrespectfully. Fuckin' Koreans.
    Except it ain't a nice club back home. It is a bar with a pool. I think the Koreans were dressed properly for the venue and the Western males were overdressed.
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  13. #21843

    Miscellaneous Titbits

    1. The screen print T-shirt shop with those classic silk screens from the Vietnam War era has gone. The shop has been demolished and is now being replaced by a new, swish Korean bar and restaurant next door to ABC Hotel. That's a great piece of history gone now. I can just picture USAF airmen from Clark wandering into his shop in the 60's and 70's and ordering some kick ass t-shirts.

    2. If you can escape from the red-light zone around Fields Ave for a few minutes, go for a walk along MacArthur Highway. Just turn right at the McDonalds end of Walking Street. There's a casino, gym, restaurants, massage shops etc which locals use. The service is a bit more sincere.

    3. No need to do laundry in your bathroom sink. Plenty of laundry shops around the place and they charge 70 PHP for 2 kgs of clothes. I use AJ's laundry at the street behind the ABC. He also has an internet business there and you can print out your ticket and itinerary there.

    4. Went to Doll House last night for a drink and look-see. What a disappointment! Without a word of a lie, I was confronted with the ugliest line up of girls in the history of Angeles. They ranged from just fat to obese, and forced to wear thong swimsuits, it was a horrific sight. I pretty much had to look away, although the waitresses were just as fat and ugly. There was one fat whale who had a hideous vertical see-section scar, and she was shuffling in the front row on stage. Seriously, there were maybe two doable girls in about 50. Where does the mamasan find these girls? They should be locked up as zoo exhibits. How any man could get a hard on with these birds naked is anybody's guess.

    5. All is not well with the Doll House Group I think. Tropix has shut down and there's a For Lease sign on the front. The location of Tropix and Crystal Palace always defied logic as they are behind walking street.

    6. Barfined a lovely 28-year old from Champagne last night. She was a solid 8 and hasn't had a baby. Flawless skin, no tattoos, unbleached hair, be-cup tits with large nipples, firm ass. Almost wife material! LOL. BF was 3,000. Dressed very well in a tight dress instead of the usual slutty daisy dukes and singlet. I took her up to Aqua and she was impressed. Then down to action in my room. Doesn't blow but provides very good GFE service. I sent her home at 12.00 after one pop and she was happy with that. If you are interested, her name is Jenelyn. Just bear in mind she won't suck your dick but DFK, DATY and FS is all okay. She will stay LT if you insist, but I like to sleep on my own so ST is fine with me.

    7. While at Aqua, I did a reconnaissance mission at around 10.00 pm and counted about 16 FLs. Most were sitting in groups of twos or threes around the bar area. It's free entry for women, but I'm not sure if their drinks are complimentary. I suppose the protocol is to buy one of them a drink and start the negotiations. Some were dressed well and some looked awful in daisy dukes and t-shirts. There were a few cutes ones I would bang, but most were just average.

    8. Most of the western males at Aqua were dressed neatly, at least wearing shoes. But then in comes a bunch of Koreans, may be pack of 10, all dressed like slobs. Singlets, flip flops and the ubiquitous fanny pack around their chests. I found it a bit disrespectful. They wouldn't dress like that in a nice club back home, so why treat the Filipinos so disrespectfully. Fuckin' Koreans.

  14. #21842
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    Angeles City has so many more posts. Why is it so much more popular than Manila?
    Angeles city became popular because of USA bases at Clark and Subic. Young army and navy people went to bars with girls and prostitution became easy way to earn money. It continues to be popular. Lots of bars were once managed by westerners but now taken over by Koreans. Girls from provinces are recruited by mamasans. Many girls are quite pretty and young. Another feature unlike a Manila bars is barfine is all inclusive. No separate payment to the girl except tip. Unlike Manila which is a metropolis AC is small town with plenty bars, plenty of girls, plenty of mongers packed in small areas.

    You should visit and find out yourself.

  15. #21841

    Re.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dante702  [View Original Post]
    Angeles City has so many more posts. Why is it so much more popular than Manila?
    Its cheaper. Its more convenient than Manila.

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