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  1. #20427

    Passing Through

    Just did four nights in AC. Got in late evening on the first and sampled Atlantis and Pony Tails. Wasn't impressed with the former: just one potential cutie who never left the second floor bench until I was almost out the door after an hour. Wasn't impressed with the latter, period, except that, based on the somewhat lower BF's and the sagging of the stage, I think I found the best cost-to-weight ratio in town.

    Headed for my go-to BJ bar, the Black Pearl. I'm more of a BJ than BF sort of guy, anyway. The lineup, from what I could see at first glance, was predictably bad, with the actually pretty cute girl I had last time apparently long gone. I only got a first glance because before I could get a second one a chubby thing that looked hauntingly familiar was in my face. I think she was a year and a half ago and seemed to have invested my payment at Jollibees in the interim. The memories of these girls can be frightening: Long ago, again at the Pearl, I repeated with a girl who remembered me, my name, and where I was from, even down to the individual state, from two or maybe even three years before. I could take pride in being that memorable but one must remember that getting kicked in the balls by a mule would be pretty memorable, too. At any rate off we went on that seemingly increasingly long walk to the short-time. As we were leaving the bar I did spot one girl who could have been decent, but she was curled up on the bench so a better estimate would have to wait.

    The next day I hit Pony Tails in the daytime, which can be be argued to be its forte, but still nothing caught my eye. I suffer from selectively high standards: I'll pull chubby from the Pearl but bar girls for some reason have to clear a higher bar. I suppose it is because it is a more interactive experience where one has something other than the top of a head to look at. Yes, some of the short-time's rooms have ceiling mirrors but they are generally hopelessly clouded and dirty. From Pony Tails I trekked to Club Asia in quest of a girl from two visits ago when she was (supposedly) on the mens. She was missing last visit (on holiday or working in Manila, depending on which mamasan was asked) and, of course, was still MIA this trip. The mamasan from two visits ago recognized me and broke the news that the object of my lust had retired. Yeah, probably for a few months. She did helpfully point out that there were other girls there, and I must admit they had some cuties. I settled on one who I thought was the best of the crop. Mamasan talked with her: She didn't BF. Because this was not determined until they chatted I assume this was a selective thing, as in perhaps I was the wrong color and had the wrong eyes. It is, after all, right in the name, Club Asia. Mamasan assured me that the girl next to her would willingly dash out the door with me but I sort of viewed it as a version of the bait and switch and declined even though she would have been my second choice.

    Worked my way up through some unremembered bars and ended up in the Dollhouse. There were a few decent ones there but two really stood out for the wrong reason. Their flab was actually obscuring much of their bikini bottoms. Dollhouse to Pony Tails: Cost-to-weight challenge accepted! I might have overlooked this but I literally couldn't overlook it. I was seated in the bottom tier at the right corner as one enters, facing the steps up to the stage. Someone on the balcony above me was making it rain, or at least drizzle. But drizzle was good enough so there were a lot of dancers in the aisle between the stage and me, vying for the swag along with those on stage. The two, um, standout dancers, not being of tall stature and obviously not going to be winning any vertical leap competitions, knew they needed an edge if they were to continue their patronage of numerous Jollibees' so they stood on the steps. So rather than the moderately lovely lasses on stage I was looking at extremely expansive asses on the steps. Every time gifts from above would flutter down there would be a cataclysmic shuddering and flapping of fat that would rival a sumo wrestler working a jackhammer. Being from an earthquake zone I found this pretty traumatic.

    But then, between blobs of flailing, distended flab I got a glimpse of Her at the other side of the room (queue You Take My Breath Away by Berlin). She was unlike anything else in my world, though admittedly my world was pretty much just partially occluded swimwear bottoms and a steatopygic nightmare of four undulating, misshapen hemispheres at that point. She was skinny! She was with another customer. Crap! But he left! She walked my direction. Wow! That was skinny! But at this point I was sorely in need of skinny. I bought her a couple of drinks (the strong stuff: pineapple juice). I think she said she had just started two days ago, but I believe that may have been a miscommunication. Her English wasn't the best. Maybe she hadn't eaten in two days. At any rate we went through the formalities: Name, where from, where staying, blah, blah. A lot of warning signs were popping up, like her completely zoning out in the middle of the conversation and staring at a point in space, sort of the conversational version of a starfish. Still, she was skinny!

    I didn't BF that night but did return for her the next. It was a mixed bag. Things started out poorly: she was my first phone nut, one of those girls that I've read of here who cannot be separated from her Facebook, Line, or whatever. She would look up every so often and ask what I was doing, the obvious answer being nothing. I seriously believe she was expecting me to be buried in my phone as well, probably because that was pretty much how all of her other social interactions went. Eventually she either got the hint or had to recharge her phone (pro tip: keep all sorts of USB cables in hand so you can lure the young ladies with the promise of a fully charged battery). Then it was shower time and into bed we went.

    I may revise my term "skinny". I think that, just like people claim to be not fat but big boned, she was small boned. No ribs showing, bulging joints or concave buttocks, just very, very small, yet of average Pinay height. And mount a couple of normally unremarkable teacup sized boobies with perky, responsive nipples on that and it looks really hot. Things were going better! Then the bombshell: No BJ's. Yes, as is often written I should have clarified this at the bar, but this is a chance I take every time. Usually works out and besides, I knew a chubby chick down the street who could handle that task. The reason, though, was valid: Her braces. I've gotten many a BJ from girls with braces with only one rather painful episode but I can see why she might worry. Or she could have been lying through her braces and just not liked BJ's.

    After that rocky start, though, everything else was on the table. The only subsequent issue was in the Land Down Under where I determined that I really should tip her a razor and some cream: Completely shaved but it was an older work and I was vaguely worried that my mustache would get snagged, Velcro-style. My willy really doesn't like condoms so sex is sometimes difficult (perhaps hence my predilection towards BJ's) and our mish experience was a case in point. Bareback was offered but I'm way too cautious about that, really more about kids: the other STD's. Doggy worked like a charm, though. Overall a really mixed bag. Would I repeat? I'd say no now but I bet if I saw her again my lower brain would win.

    On a rather offbeat but maybe useful note, I literally gave her the WiFi password: I handed her my key card mini-folder where it was written. Also written there, however, were my check-in and out dates, which she read aloud. I've been known to give girls fake dates so I don't have them nagging me for more BF's. In this case I hadn't but it's something I'll recall if there is a next time.

    The last night I did the Black Pearl again. The potential cutie was not in sight so it was another walk down the street with the chubby to get that missing blow job. I really need to find a replacement BJ bar.

    I Tried Voodoo as a replacement for Pony Tails as a daytime haunt. Dancers were no better, but got to love the hours. Angelwitch was better than the one other time I went. Every time I walk by it going to or from the hotel the music is good, but the only visit I had made revealed very sub-par dancers. Not knockouts this time either, no one I would bar fine, but always something pleasant to look at on stage. Note to guy sitting beside me singing along with all the songs: Don't quit your day job. On a followup visit they still had easy on the eyes dancers but after cutting a Meatloaf song in the middle they played five consecutive sissy easy listening songs so I left, swearing I would not return for at least five months and I'm sticking to that (I get to AC about every six months).

  2. #20426
    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalCitizen  [View Original Post]
    Can anyone identify this bar for me in AC?
    Not 100%, but looks like the old Treasure Island.

  3. #20425
    I've never stayed at ABC, but took a girl to Aqua and she loved it.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for getting it. Staying there means it's a short stroll from your room or the dining room to the elevator and thence to Aqua where you can relax, swim, have a snack, grab a lady, all without having moved more than 15 meters.

    As to the presumably rhetorical question of "Where did they come from?" Who cares? I have no idea where they came from.

    GE.
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  4. #20424
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    And the survey says:

    As the higher price goes the more entrants from many fields. And I am not talking about rice fields or even Fields Avenue. Who knows where they come from or do you care? Could be local or distance aspiring models, under paid nurses, teachers, you name it.

    Look at Singapore with higher prices, they come afar from Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam and many other countries.
    Girls will charge what the market will bear. Aqua sounds like the patrons are well-off, and don't think twice about paying an extra 1000 php ($20) for a quickie. There is a high-end hotel in Bangkok with an expensive bar / club that is popular with well-dressed middle age hookers who get 2-3 times what an attractive college age gogo girl gets. And that is after getting her expensive drinks paid for. But price does not always equal quality. You can pay five times as much for a banana in Starbucks as you would for that same banana in a grocery store. Why do they charge so much? Because people pay.

  5. #20423
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    Now we must consider that there are people that get more satisfaction out of a bargain priced fxck even if they have to travel a mile to get it than the sexual gratification itself.

    Why would a person who knows his (her) worth lower their price? Would any ISG member work for less than they are getting?
    I think there are mainly two type sex traveller.

    There are the type that get wow by the price difference of sex between their home country. When they come to Philippine they are happy to go all out as the same price can only buy them one shot for a 45 minutes back home. Koreans Japanese and lately Chinese all falls into this category. Political situations and inflation push sex price in these countries to sky high.

    Then there are the ones that knows GDP difference should be part of the equation. Consider 1 night of BF equals to a week pad for office worker in Makati and a month paid for house maid. It should be a pretty good deal for the girls. Given how global economic is going right now, this mindset is very common and you can't blame people for bargain hunting.

    The problem is if you are a working girl, which type of customer you prefer? Obviously the first type so the rest have to either pay up or lower their standard. If someone think 3 K is high, wait until you are in AF1. Yeah I know bloody Koreans, but what can you do?

    For me if a girl has temperament, and treat me well. I think 3 K is a bargain consider that is only my entrance fee to an FKK.

  6. #20422
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    If that is the case, it does beg the question: Where did this new, better crop of girls appear from?
    And the survey says:

    As the higher price goes the more entrants from many fields. And I am not talking about rice fields or even Fields Avenue. Who knows where they come from or do you care? Could be local or distance aspiring models, under paid nurses, teachers, you name it.

    Look at Singapore with higher prices, they come afar from Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam and many other countries.

  7. #20421
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for getting it. Staying there means it's a short stroll from your room or the dining room to the elevator and thence to Aqua where you can relax, swim, have a snack, grab a lady, all without having moved more than 15 meters.

    As to the presumably rhetorical question of "Where did they come from?" Who cares? I have no idea where they came from.

    GE.
    Now we must consider that there are people that get more satisfaction out of a bargain priced fxck even if they have to travel a mile to get it than the sexual gratification itself.

    Why would a person who knows his (her) worth lower their price? Would any ISG member work for less than they are getting?

  8. #20420
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    Seems like the on location spot price is 3000. It is there and convenient. Why do people pay more for things at a convience store when they can buy it cheaper at the supermarket?

    Any guest there can get off their butt and go to Det5 and get a girl for 2 k if they don't want to pay 3 k. As GE said the girls are all dolled up, packaged better and most importantly available!
    Thanks for getting it. Staying there means it's a short stroll from your room or the dining room to the elevator and thence to Aqua where you can relax, swim, have a snack, grab a lady, all without having moved more than 15 meters.

    As to the presumably rhetorical question of "Where did they come from?" Who cares? I have no idea where they came from.

    GE.

  9. #20419
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    I'm basing the Php3,000 on what friends of mine have paid. And I'm not sure that your assumption that "these are the same girls" as seen in HS is correct. While there may be some overlap between the two populations, the girls I've seen in Aqua are significantly better dressed, more poised, and in general a cut above the HS girls I've seen.
    If that is the case, it does beg the question: Where did this new, better crop of girls appear from?

  10. #20418
    Hay GE,

    Thanks for the insight.

    First a general comment on Philippine girls. Do you think they generally lack temperament.

    I hang out in China, Malay and Europe. I like girls that dress nicely, you know the type. Nice dress high heels, talk nicely, etc. This is such a rare find in Manila not to mention AC. When a bunch of them talk loud in Tagalog, OMG giving me a bloody headache.

    I have some business in Manila next month. Weekdays I have no choice but to stay in Manila and I will try my luck with LA Cafe, Green Belt, Tinder. Etc. On the weekend, do you think it's a better to stay in Manila or try my luck in AC. Last time bunch of friends took me around and the best stock I can see is at RA. This time may be I can try Aqua and High So? RA and other bars can be a Plan be.

    BTW how safe / unsafe is the traveling to AC by coach? Just wondering, that's all.

    When you say Aqua girls are better cut, do you think being an ABC hotel guest give you a higher success rate?

    Thanks.

    CH123.

  11. #20417

    Location location location

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I wouldn't be too quick to pay 3000 pesos. Why would you give them any more than you would a chick in High Society or one that you met walking down the street? My rationale is this. They are the same chicks that you see anywhere else. Nothing special. The chick that I picked up at Det 5 the other day mentioned going to Aqua a couple of times, but I only paid her barfine of 2000 from her bar. Another chick that I met on Wechat has a normal job and also has pictures of her in Aqua on her profile. I only gave her 1000. So take it for what it is worth.
    Seems like the on location spot price is 3000. It is there and convenient. Why do people pay more for things at a convience store when they can buy it cheaper at the supermarket?

    Any guest there can get off their butt and go to Det5 and get a girl for 2 k if they don't want to pay 3 k. As GE said the girls are all dolled up, packaged better and most importantly available!

  12. #20416
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I wouldn't be too quick to pay 3000 pesos. Why would you give them any more than you would a chick in High Society or one that you met walking down the street? My rationale is this. They are the same chicks that you see anywhere else. Nothing special. The chick that I picked up at Det 5 the other day mentioned going to Aqua a couple of times, but I only paid her barfine of 2000 from her bar. Another chick that I met on Wechat has a normal job and also has pictures of her in Aqua on her profile. I only gave her 1000. So take it for what it is worth.
    I'm basing the Php3,000 on what friends of mine have paid. And I'm not sure that your assumption that "these are the same girls" as seen in HS is correct. While there may be some overlap between the two populations, the girls I've seen in Aqua are significantly better dressed, more poised, and in general a cut above the HS girls I've seen. But mine is a limited sample and I've focused more on those whose looks were, to me, superior to what I've seen elsewhere. This is not a point and click bar for the most part, and I think--though cannot confirm--that the freelancers there have higher expectations than those who hang out at High Society, especially given that Aqua is several rungs in quality and class above High Society.

    GE.

  13. #20415
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    The girls who come to Aqua are freelancers, so there's no bar fine and there are no ladies drinks, as this is just a bar / club and not designed specifically as a pick-up joint. None of these girls work for the hotel. I've not yet picked up anyone there, though I was tempted and did come close, and the price seems to be around Php3,000 overnight.
    I wouldn't be too quick to pay 3000 pesos. Why would you give them any more than you would a chick in High Society or one that you met walking down the street? My rationale is this. They are the same chicks that you see anywhere else. Nothing special. The chick that I picked up at Det 5 the other day mentioned going to Aqua a couple of times, but I only paid her barfine of 2000 from her bar. Another chick that I met on Wechat has a normal job and also has pictures of her in Aqua on her profile. I only gave her 1000. So take it for what it is worth.

  14. #20414
    Quote Originally Posted by CygnushYoga123  [View Original Post]
    I have not lock in my AC booking next month yet. Your report really tempt me to spoil myself for once and lock into ABC.

    Being the buildin club of ABC hotel. I assume their girls quality are high? How much is the lady drink and overnight bar fine?
    The girls who come to Aqua are freelancers, so there's no bar fine and there are no ladies drinks, as this is just a bar / club and not designed specifically as a pick-up joint. None of these girls work for the hotel. I've not yet picked up anyone there, though I was tempted and did come close, and the price seems to be around Php3,000 overnight. There appear to be lots of ladies coming there to score, but not all of the women coming there solo or in small groups of friends are in the P4 P business. Some come just to hang out and have zero interest in a business transaction, so it's wise to observe for a while before you go all out to pick someone up. Those who are trolling for customers tough are fairly obvious. On the weekends, the freelancer parade can start in the late afternoon and continue pretty much throughout the evening.

    Aqua is open to everyone, both hotel guests and non-residents. Entry is free for hotel guests, and for men not staying in the hotel, the entrance fee is Php250 all of which is consumable. Non hotel guests (including the ladies) are given plastic bracelets, and all drinks are charged to a bracelet, with the expectation that the tab will be settled prior to exiting the 7th floor. In fact the tab must be settled at the exit, prior to release of the electronic lock at the gate, permitting access to the elevators.

    For those who haven't been, the club is accessed by an elevator in tower 4, to the 7th floor, where the bracelets are doled out at a cashier's kiosk. Visitors are then admitted through a locked gate, and must walk up two flights of stairs to the club itself. The entrance fee also includes access to the huge infinity pool, to the changing rooms and amenities including lockers and towels. There's also a whirlpool tub at the very end of the bar that seems to get lots of use by men and their dates. The booze is top shelf, for the most part and drinks are not inexpensive, though the food prices are pretty reasonable. The bar gets packed on weekend nights though crowds are sparser during the week days.

    The access to the cabanas, which a large and can accommodate probably 15-20 people is fee-based, and I believe the cost is Php16,000 (all consumable) for half a day. So there's a choice between a morning-afternoon rental and an afternoon-closing rental. There are six cabanas, and they're very popular with small groups of guys who split the rental costs and the invite as many girls as they like (usually arranged beforehand at some of the Angeles bars) to join them. I believe that at least 4 of the cabanas have private roof decks (there's another bar at the roof level), and at least two of them have private showers and toilets.

    GE.

  15. #20413

    Where is this bar?

    Can anyone identify this bar for me in AC?
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