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  1. #8661
    Quote Originally Posted by JackRow  [View Original Post]
    This went for about 10 to 15 minutes. By this time Mamsan started pushing me for another beer. So had one and asked her for the girl on dance floor. Got my beer and she asked me to wait for 5 minutes. The girl came directly to me and even before sitting next to me asked for Lady drink. I order her lady drink and tipped Mamsan 100 bht. We talked for about 10 minutes and I asked for short time. She quoted 5000 bhat for 2 hours, 800 bhat bar fine and 800 bhat for room near Baccara. Finally reading forum came to my help. Started bargaining and got her final price for 3000 baht, 800 bar fine and agreed to come to my hotel which was barely 5 minutes walk from Soi Cowboy.
    You did pretty good in the lions' den for a first time. A very good learning experience. A few tips. Don't be getting too involved with mamasans until you need them. So not necessary to buy mamasan a drink at all unless you like her and you want it to become a habit.

    Most experienced guys here would bail out as soon as the rip off scams started re 5000 and the room for 800. Fortunately you got to a better deal, where a lot of guys would just not bother, and bail out, expecting that the girl is not likely to be great. I normally take a lot more than 10 minutes talk to decide if I really want a girl, but that is just me. I am very untrusting of new girls till I am sure the chemistry is good. However I am different because I am quite willing to miss out altogether, and as a new guy you don't want to go unfucked.

    So I suggest maybe more than one drink for the girl and less for mamasan. Take more time to build chemistry perhaps unless scared the girl will be stolen away by another customer. I don't know the average price paid for a ST for Bacarra. It is years since I did a Bacarra girl. However correct you are only likely to get one shot. If you agree to more it will cost you more.

    Some bars have a small number of girls pricing themselves at 2000 Baht, but I don't think it is so easy to find them, unless the girl is clearly a plain looker. 3000 should be the maximum for ST for in demand type girls, that can afford to be choosey. Should be possible to get girls for 2500 without too much problem in some bars, and sometimes even 2000. I don't know anything about girls asking for 5000. Probably does not happen to me, because I speak Thai.

    You can get girls off the street in Soi 4 of Sukhumvit for 1000 to 1500 Baht, depending on how good they look, but you won't get 2 hours for that. I hour maximum. They may not perform that super either.

    The price that girls will go depends on their looks, how in demand they are, and whether they like your attitude. Unpopular girls can be got for less, provided they are realistic.

    I can usually get a girl to come to me for a drink without involving other staff. If I catch her eye, I simply use my hand to make a glass tipping drinking motion, which suggests a drink. If cannot catch her eye, especially in a busy bar like Bacarra, you can simply leave your seat and walk right up to her and say straight off you will buy her a drink. Then she will probably give some signal of agreement if she is available, and then come to your seat when able. She can say no if she is already taken, and occasionally, you find a girl that does not respond at all, perhaps too shy to say no, but probably means she will not come. This last case normally happens when the girl has a specific target fish (guy), but has not yet landed him for certain, so her brain is in a quandary. You loose some, you find another.

    Some shy girls stare into space and never look directly at all the customers to check who is interested. Some girls get flustered when 5 different guys are all wanting to buy her a drink at the same time. The fast acting guy may win, or the regular customer may win.

  2. #8660

    Soi Cowboy. Baccara

    Soi Cowboy is my first mongering experience. All the go go bars were busy throughout Saturday and Sunday. Went to Crazy House, Midnight, Kiss, Suzie Wong. Finally on Sunday settled in Baccara, its nice place with moderate drink cost. Lots of girls dancing around at center stage and some at the tables Sat in the corner for some time with beer and started scanning the floor for possible options. Liked couple of girls who were petite, natural and long hair. Mamsan made couple of rounds near my table, but couldn't gather courage to ask for preferred girl. Finally was about to walk out after finishing my beer, there comes a petite girl around 22 - 25 years. Holds my hand and grabs my cock over pants. Made me sit back and started talking about the stuff I couldn't understand. Her English was not so good and loud music made it worst. I kept ignoring her and kept staring at a girl on dance stage. She asked for a lady drink which I refused, she asked for going out for short time which also I refused. Finally she got hint its not moving ahead. This went for about 10 to 15 minutes. By this time Mamsan started pushing me for another beer. So had one and asked her for the girl on dance floor. Got my beer and she asked me to wait for 5 minutes. The girl came directly to me and even before sitting next to me asked for Lady drink. I order her lady drink and tipped Mamsan 100 bht. We talked for about 10 minutes and I asked for short time. She quoted 5000 bhat for 2 hours, 800 bhat bar fine and 800 bhat for room near Baccara. Finally reading forum came to my help. Started bargaining and got her final price for 3000 baht, 800 bar fine and agreed to come to my hotel which was barely 5 minutes walk from Soi Cowboy. Name of the girl was Ora, English was decent enough to talk and understand. After reaching hotel had shower and then moved to bed. As per typical Thai she was petite, smooth skin and long black brown hair. Within the bed everything was mechanical and time on spot like - 10 minutes of foreplay (No DFK). 10 minutes of BJ, then WOT followed by missionary and finally doggy. All the deed was done in 1 hour. Had shower together and she started dressing up. I had whole another hour left. But as per her, short time includes only 1 shot and for another shot I need to pay 2000 baht extra. Had argument, but was going no where and I was also disappointed with service and let her go. As for girl following are the stats.

    Face- 6 / 10.

    Figure- 9/10.

    BJ- 6/10.

    CIM. NA.

    VFM- 6/10.

    Being my first experience it was OK. Will try other bars in coming days.

  3. #8659
    I was in Suk Soi 12 to check out Darling which was closed down.

    There was a girl motorcycle driver stationed there. She would love to acquire a Farang boyfriend, but probably a genuine one. LOL Take a peek in there if interested in a normal girl, probably late 20's. I don't think she is looking for a fuck, moreso a partner most likely. Don't know what her English is like. Unfortunately I already have girl long term who doesn't speak English.

    Plenty of Thai girls get sick and tired of unreliable Thai boys, and may want a guy with higher responsibility levels.

    It is certainly not hard to meet Thai girls looking for Farang boyfriend, even possible at Airport shops. I never pursue because I need to have less GFs rather than more, and all the good guys I know have partners already.

  4. #8658
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    Contradictory to another report:

    Commerce to make Thailand "Paradise of Street Food".
    I wouldn't bet on this if I were you. The military junta in Pattaya has already cleaned out Walking Street of all street vendors and is working to do so in the rest of the city to the detriment of natives and tourists alike. Street food will now be segregated into ghettos designated by the goons.

  5. #8657

    Street food not going anywhere

    Quote Originally Posted by RedKilt  [View Original Post]
    Contradictory to another report:

    Commerce to make Thailand "Paradise of Street Food".

    Bangkok: -- The Ministry of Commerce plans to make Thailand as a "Paradise of Street Food" after the country was named for having the best street food in the world for the second consecutive year this year.

    Commerce Minister Apiradi Tantraporn said the promotion of quality and clean street food would be done through its current "Noo Nich" project which emphasised on "delicious food, good quality, clean and cheap price. ".

    The project is now implemented in Bangkok and is expanding to the provinces, she said.

    The project is to recommend eateries offering good-quality and clean food at reasonable prices, so local people and travelers can have more restaurant options when they come to Thailand, she said.

    In addition, the ministry has collaborated with the Office of SMEs Promotion to provide loans for people who want to start a "food truck" business so as to promote quality, clean and cheap price street food in the capital.

    Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/com...e-street-food/.

  6. #8656
    Quote Originally Posted by BionicMan  [View Original Post]
    I once thought took a taximeter from 12.30 till 5. 30 pm for a visit to the floating market some 30/40 km away, including his waiting time at destination and the drive back. He had pre- quoted "around 1500". Then he put the meter.
    On a tangent, so moved to general Thread.

    For touristy tours from Bangkok, I don't recommend the Floating Market, Rose Garden, etc. Roses are crap in Thailand due to wrong climate. I thought they were just touristy bull shit, waste of time and money. There are better things. E. g. Crocodile farm and Ancient City in Samut Prakarn is much more entertaining. Jim Thompson's House is okay A few good temples (Emerald, Pho, Saket, Traimit, Arun). The Siam Niramit show is good. Even Wax museum was okay Sam Pran zoo okay Suan Pakaat historical house is good. Be careful with tour choices far distance from Bangkok.

    I also thought Bridge on the River Kwai (actually sounds like Kwair almost Queer LOL) and Death Railway tours are pretty much bullshit. Nothing to see except tombstones and war photos. Go see nature like Erawan falls in Kanchanaburi is much better. Just my opinions.

    I had to do the bullshit tours but comment to save others from wasting their time.

  7. #8655

    Thanks mate

    Thanks for feedback mate, one thing I am sure of is that Germans in general tend to be rude. On my vacation itself will surely spend the first 2 nights in downtown Bangkok, my favorite spots to watch the world go by in one of Hillaries bars. Like to stroll around in the upper Sukhumvit as well, most probably end in Soi Cowboy but last I was there 2 years ago prices rocketed up big time especially in spots like Bacara. Next to follow is a 2 week either Hua-Hin or Pattaya, most of all I prefer KOh Samui but I don't like taking any internal flights during my short trip.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Lufthansa and Thai Airways Code share flights from Frankfurt to BKK. I have been on many. They are okay I won't rave. Certainly not the worst choice around. The worst problem is so many Germans on the flight, that can be a little arrogant and self centred at times in terms of lack of care to prevent disturbance and nuisance to other passengers, especially knocking into you as they go past or leaning on the back of your seat or insisting on having elbows encroaching into my seat area (even old women did this on my last flight), in comparison to some other cultures, however at least they tend to be a bit quieter than Americans. Americans seem very polite but just loud when excited. Just making wild generalisations based on a lot of experience. You will hardly meet an American on this flight.

    The 2nd worst type of passengers are young children, so I try to take very late at night flights to reduce chances of being near screaming babies slightly. The worst type of passengers for me are those that stink of body odours. No more than normal on Lufthansa. Don't run into that problem very often at all. Worst occasion for me was a flight from Chiang Mai, but hostess moved me to a better seat far away from the problem.

    Overall Lufthansa is pretty much okay And staff are good, but sometimes inadvisable in peak season (December was most difficult) if you want to be able to change ticket to fly some other day. All the Germans on holiday seem to try to fly Lufthansa. So some flights can be very full. If you are not accustomed to long flights, something to help make you drowsy and relaxed can be useful.

  8. #8654
    Quote Originally Posted by Bugzy69  [View Original Post]
    After flying with Emirates and Turkish airlines, this coming June I booked a reasonable price of 580 flight to BKK from my country via Frankfurt. Has anyone tried them before? For sure will keep some stylnox handy as its a strait 10 hour!

    Cheers.
    Lufthansa and Thai Airways Code share flights from Frankfurt to BKK. I have been on many. They are okay I won't rave. Certainly not the worst choice around. The worst problem is so many Germans on the flight, that can be a little arrogant and self centred at times in terms of lack of care to prevent disturbance and nuisance to other passengers, especially knocking into you as they go past or leaning on the back of your seat or insisting on having elbows encroaching into my seat area (even old women did this on my last flight), in comparison to some other cultures, however at least they tend to be a bit quieter than Americans. Americans seem very polite but just loud when excited. Just making wild generalisations based on a lot of experience. You will hardly meet an American on this flight.

    The 2nd worst type of passengers are young children, so I try to take very late at night flights to reduce chances of being near screaming babies slightly. The worst type of passengers for me are those that stink of body odours. No more than normal on Lufthansa. Don't run into that problem very often at all. Worst occasion for me was a flight from Chiang Mai, but hostess moved me to a better seat far away from the problem.

    Overall Lufthansa is pretty much okay And staff are good, but sometimes inadvisable in peak season (December was most difficult) if you want to be able to change ticket to fly some other day. All the Germans on holiday seem to try to fly Lufthansa. So some flights can be very full. If you are not accustomed to long flights, something to help make you drowsy and relaxed can be useful.

  9. #8653

    Lufthansa flight

    After flying with Emirates and Turkish airlines, this coming June I booked a reasonable price of 580 flight to BKK from my country via Frankfurt. Has anyone tried them before? For sure will keep some stylnox handy as its a strait 10 hour!

    Cheers.

  10. #8652

    General info required

    It's been about 3 years since I last visited BKK, any info regarding CIS, good clubs, and if the bkk scene has changed in any way, also any TIPS on mongering would be appreciated. I have been searching on the site, but not picking up much. Has BKK died down a bit.

    I do like the CIS more, but not the crowd from Grace area, used to visit CM2, before, heard its closed down.

    IS MIXX, BKK still the same, has anything changed, any info and help would be appreciated. Current prices, LT, ST has the quality of the woman dropped.

    Thanks.

  11. #8651

    China Air Booked Solid

    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    I like EVA. Taken the LAX to TPI to BKK run 4 times now (depart LAX after midnight and depart BKK around 4 PM) with a fifth trip starting late next week. I fly Elite class, which I think is worth the doubling of price. Only downside is the seats are over the wing so if you like to look out the windows, your view will either be totally blocked or mostly blocked. I usually sit in the middle aisle seat (slight odds you won't have anyone sitting next to you there, with 100% odds of having someone next to you in the window sides) for the LAX / TPI portion of the trip, then switch to a window seat with a view for the 4 HR flight between BKK and TPI. The electrical boxes at the bottom of the seats in front of you can mess with leg room a bit, but better than being stuck in cattle class. After my next trip over, my mileage should be such that I can get a free upgrade to First Class next time. I have no experience with other airlines, so I have no comparisons.

    And as was said, the flight attendants are generally young and attractive, and mostly Chinese, with EVA. I have never tried engaging one in conversation, but while friendly, they seem to be professional so would be a little surprised if they will go home with you. Regardless, I am too old and not rich enough to be of any interest to them.
    Because of a promo at China Air of $589.00 RT LOS Angeles / BKK. I couldn't get a seat on the Taipei / BKK leg. Sold out full not even a waitlist. I can get to Taipei from Honolulu, so my lady at China Air Honolulu booked me to HCMC, and I got a connection on Jet star from HCMC to BKK a couple of hours later. She said that they even put a Jumbo 747 on the Taipei BKK route and it filled up fast. Anyway I'll be there on Wednesday and visit the BIG products expo to write off the trip. Timing is everything.

    RL.

  12. #8650
    FL, use a site like Seat Guru before you book your seat. Look up the airline and the type and version of plane for your flight. Tells you things like where those electrical boxes are.

    https://www.seatguru.com/browseairli...seairlines.php

    You got my attention when you said Business Class is only double of Economy on Eva Air. From where I am from it's over 3x more expensive. Too bad. Double I would do assuming it's a lay flat seat.

  13. #8649
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    This is impressive. I need to look into Eva Air for sure now. I always notice Eva about 25% cheaper than Cathay. Can anyone else compare Eva Air with Cathay? I find the seats at Cathay to be fairly comfortable even if the person in front of you reclines his seat all the way back.
    I like EVA. Taken the LAX to TPI to BKK run 4 times now (depart LAX after midnight and depart BKK around 4 PM) with a fifth trip starting late next week. I fly Elite class, which I think is worth the doubling of price. Only downside is the seats are over the wing so if you like to look out the windows, your view will either be totally blocked or mostly blocked. I usually sit in the middle aisle seat (slight odds you won't have anyone sitting next to you there, with 100% odds of having someone next to you in the window sides) for the LAX / TPI portion of the trip, then switch to a window seat with a view for the 4 HR flight between BKK and TPI. The electrical boxes at the bottom of the seats in front of you can mess with leg room a bit, but better than being stuck in cattle class. After my next trip over, my mileage should be such that I can get a free upgrade to First Class next time. I have no experience with other airlines, so I have no comparisons.

    And as was said, the flight attendants are generally young and attractive, and mostly Chinese, with EVA. I have never tried engaging one in conversation, but while friendly, they seem to be professional so would be a little surprised if they will go home with you. Regardless, I am too old and not rich enough to be of any interest to them.

  14. #8648

    Rent

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunlover2  [View Original Post]
    Strikers on Suk Soi 4 (Nana Hotel parking lot) is for sale for 20 million baht: http://www.asianbusinessbrokers.com/...r-in-soi-nana/.

    SL.
    Per month Rent. Wow!

  15. #8647

    Songkran

    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Songkran Thai New Year water dousing festival starts today and goes to 15 I guess. Bars do not have to close. Zauberfee reported some MP closures for holiday. Many girls have left Bangkok and gone back to the province. On girl I know left to go to Laos (Savanakhet). Quite a long journey.

    Especially tomorrow, would be wise to keep money and phone in a plastic Bag for protection from severe damp.
    Many working girls back in the villages and provinces now.

    Generally they will return for duty no later than the 18th.

    Excellent advice from Syzygies regarding waterproofing. I personally avoid the built up areas during this time. TIP: ensure the liquid that is thrown towards you IS water.

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