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  1. #23576
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    Flew in from Germany to Bangkok on Thai Airways in their new A350 Airbus. I was pleasantly surprised by how spacious their economy seat was, easily an equivalent to any economy plus on many airlines. Their services were great too.

    This was my first trip to Thailand which I included this time as part of my global iteniary. I had already been touring the FKK the last week. Anyway, I just want to share my experiences of Pattaya from a newbie POV.

    Day 1:

    Landed at BKK around noon, and took a taxi to Pattaya, and it costed 1600 B for the trip. You might be able to get there more cheaply if you know your way around the system. But to me I value my time and convenience more than the savings of a few bucks.

    Checked into the hotel, freshened up and grabbed some lunch. My first trip was to the Sabai Room and I wanted to check out the Thai Soapie experience for myself.

    Inside the building you would see the ladies grouped based on the color of their badge numbers. The different color represents different price tier. Could it be based on their popularity and experience?

    Thai girls were mostly small and petite with small natural breasts. I mentioned natural because I later found out that those with a bigger set are more often than not implants. Some of them were done so well that I would often ask if they were actually implants. They would always say yes and let me feel them in the GG bars. These implants were done through injections via their armpits, which is better since it does not leave behind unsightly scars. Here is how I would describe them, it feels like squeezing into a memory foam. It may look more natural, but you can still feel the difference.

    I picked a girl from the lineup just based on her look and smile, and that was probably my newbie mistake numero Uno. The girl's body frame was petite and her push up bra made her boobs appear bigger. However, soapie involves body to body contact, and I think the experience would have been more enjoyable if the bodyframe is less petite and boobs are bigger. I am not sure if the girl was just inexperienced or that was the way how things were set up for that establishment. Everything felt very scripted, timed and very rushed. I guess when they mention a 90 minutes experience, it should be disclaimed as 90 minutes or less whichever comes first, LOL. Could the Soapie experience be better in Tokyo? I may have to check it out in the future.

    Next, I went to a Thai massage place to get rid of my back strains and muscle aches from the earlier 12 hours flight.

    Headed towards Soi 6 after the massage. I have heard of Soi 6, but only realized that it actually refers to the street name, kind of like the 6th Street. They have all these Soi streets in perpendicular to the main Beach road, so it is actually easy to navigate your way around. Soi 6 has the higher concentration of bars for a particular street from my observation, and it was actually quite a fun experience to walk through that street. You are basically a bait swimming through the fishes. There are all these bar girls standing in front of the bar and would encourage you to come in. They would strategically stop you and occasionally try to pull you to get into the bar. However, they were never done in any aggressive manner at all, and if you avoid eye contact with them, they would probably leave you alone.

    So if you just want to spend a lazy afternoon and do some "people watching", you can go to the bar and sit there to do just that. You get to see all the different reactions from the guys as they walk through the street and got approached by these girls. I was among them, haha. I spent a bit of time at Lisa bar and chatted with the girls by buying them drinks. The bar girls made their earnings that way through a cut of these sales. These bars have rooms above if you want a quickie, or they can be brought out to accompany you for ST or LT and you need to pay the bar a fee known as bar fine, a terminology that I still find interesting. I guess the bar needs to recoup their investment on the girls in some way, since they are paid a monthly salary to work there. With so many of these bars around, I am pretty sure that competition for business is intense.

    That night, my friend and I went to the Walking Street for some GoGo bar hopping, and it is an area where the GG bars are concentrated. The GG bar uses the concept of girls parading through the center stage in rotation. Sometimes the girls would be half naked, and most times I can tell that they really hated to be up there doing this stupid routine. I can't really blame them since who wouldn't? Their faces were mostly expressionless and if they happen to notice that you are looking in their direction, would occasionally flash a smile to see if you might be interested to buy them a drink after they got off stage. My so-called lady drinks have ranged from anywhere between 150 to 200 B. I would get to check if I can have the chemistry with the girl that way. If not, I would pay my bill and move on to the next bar.

    That late night I ended up booking LT with a girl at the bar called Airport. That was the bar that has no bar fine, but regardless the prices will always be factored in. It's just how you want to call them. I negotiated with the mamasan on the prices directly and it took a few counter offers. By the way, I find the amount that you pay for the girls are very subjective so I am not going to reveal how much I have paid. Your price is always going to be determined by your available information and context, your level of desire, and your willingness to walk away. YMMV (your miles may vary).

    From my experience so far, bar fines have remained consistent at 800 B at all the bars. The GG rate can go anywhere from 2000 to 5000 B for LT from what I am told. But don't take my words literally. However, girls would be willing to negotiate as the night drags on, as they would prefer to earn something rather than nothing as GG bar closes at 3 AM if I not mistaken.

    After bar fining the girl, we went to watch the pussy show just right above the Airport bar. Let's just that after that show, I have a greater sense of distaste for coke and anything that comes out of the pussies. Those things can kill, LOL.

    Day 2:

    Slept till 11 AM with the girl from the previous night, and would have slept even further if I had not been interrupted by the hotel receptionist asking me if I wanted to extend my hotel stay, and I said yes.

    Later in the afternoon, I went back to the same massage place for a foot massage with the same girl. For some reason, I was attracted to her, but like a teenager, I was too chicken to ask her out, hahaha. But the bigger barrier is of course the Thai language, which I know nothing about.

    Later, my friend and I went for another round of walk through Soi 6 again and ended up at Lisa bar. Next to Lisa bar was Ruby. I noticed a girl seated just a few seats away that attracted me. She sat quietly and looked very shy. She would look away even after I have looked at her and showed sign of interest. Maybe I was in the wrong bar. So I closed my bill and stepped into Ruby and bought her a drink. Again, communication has remained a barrier, and beyond a few simple greetings, I have to rely on Google translate.

    I liked her and decided to bar-fine her for LT, since it would not be a bad idea to have an escort in Pattaya for a day. GG bar demands upfront payment, but for this joint, I can pay her after her services, except for the bar fine which I have to pay first. This is a good sign, since I really hate to pay upfront for any services. We would take leisurely stroll and relax on the beach, and later on head back to the hotel for a quick session. That evening, we would spend our time in I-Bar, and later Insomnia. That girl can really hold her drink, as I found myself getting drunk faster over the same rounds of tequila shots. Also, I find it much cheaper to just order a bottle. We would drink, dance and make out all night. It was a great experience to be pempered by her that night.

    Day 3:

    Went back to the Thai massage place again for the third time for massages with the same girl. By now, she had grown comfortable with me. Too bad that it was my last day in Pattaya and logistically it would be difficult to ask her out.

    That evening, my friend and I went more GG bar hopping. He had his favorite at Peppermint, and we stopped by to bar fine his girl, before our next stop to Baccara. I have posted a brief report of Baccara earlier, and so I am going to skip the section here. Anyway, I bar fined a girl later on, and initially she was fun to be with. We spent time in Lucifer drinking and dancing. However, I had to later kick her out of my room, and again it was in my previously posted report, LOL. In the end, I texted the girl from last night, and she agreed to come by my hotel after getting off rwork from the bar.

    One more thing that I almost forgot to mention. My sexual experience with these girls were not great. They were either inexperienced or not into it. I find sex with the GG girls particularly bad. Forget about getting a BBJ from the GG girls, and usually I have no problem with CBJ and I prefer that route in places like this. However, you cannot do CBJ and yet still be repulsive by the condom taste. That's a bad combination. For great sex experience, I would still prefer the FKK route in Germany.
    Great first report. A lot of your Thailand newbie experiences will help others to navigate. Do you plan to contact any ladies through apps, social media, or that websites? You might want to gove that a try as well.

  2. #23575
    Flew in from Germany to Bangkok on Thai Airways in their new A350 Airbus. I was pleasantly surprised by how spacious their economy seat was, easily an equivalent to any economy plus on many airlines. Their services were great too.

    This was my first trip to Thailand which I included this time as part of my global iteniary. I had already been touring the FKK the last week. Anyway, I just want to share my experiences of Pattaya from a newbie POV.

    Day 1:

    Landed at BKK around noon, and took a taxi to Pattaya, and it costed 1600 B for the trip. You might be able to get there more cheaply if you know your way around the system. But to me I value my time and convenience more than the savings of a few bucks.

    Checked into the hotel, freshened up and grabbed some lunch. My first trip was to the Sabai Room and I wanted to check out the Thai Soapie experience for myself.

    Inside the building you would see the ladies grouped based on the color of their badge numbers. The different color represents different price tier. Could it be based on their popularity and experience?

    Thai girls were mostly small and petite with small natural breasts. I mentioned natural because I later found out that those with a bigger set are more often than not implants. Some of them were done so well that I would often ask if they were actually implants. They would always say yes and let me feel them in the GG bars. These implants were done through injections via their armpits, which is better since it does not leave behind unsightly scars. Here is how I would describe them, it feels like squeezing into a memory foam. It may look more natural, but you can still feel the difference.

    I picked a girl from the lineup just based on her look and smile, and that was probably my newbie mistake numero Uno. The girl's body frame was petite and her push up bra made her boobs appear bigger. However, soapie involves body to body contact, and I think the experience would have been more enjoyable if the bodyframe is less petite and boobs are bigger. I am not sure if the girl was just inexperienced or that was the way how things were set up for that establishment. Everything felt very scripted, timed and very rushed. I guess when they mention a 90 minutes experience, it should be disclaimed as 90 minutes or less whichever comes first, LOL. Could the Soapie experience be better in Tokyo? I may have to check it out in the future.

    Next, I went to a Thai massage place to get rid of my back strains and muscle aches from the earlier 12 hours flight.

    Headed towards Soi 6 after the massage. I have heard of Soi 6, but only realized that it actually refers to the street name, kind of like the 6th Street. They have all these Soi streets in perpendicular to the main Beach road, so it is actually easy to navigate your way around. Soi 6 has the higher concentration of bars for a particular street from my observation, and it was actually quite a fun experience to walk through that street. You are basically a bait swimming through the fishes. There are all these bar girls standing in front of the bar and would encourage you to come in. They would strategically stop you and occasionally try to pull you to get into the bar. However, they were never done in any aggressive manner at all, and if you avoid eye contact with them, they would probably leave you alone.

    So if you just want to spend a lazy afternoon and do some "people watching", you can go to the bar and sit there to do just that. You get to see all the different reactions from the guys as they walk through the street and got approached by these girls. I was among them, haha. I spent a bit of time at Lisa bar and chatted with the girls by buying them drinks. The bar girls made their earnings that way through a cut of these sales. These bars have rooms above if you want a quickie, or they can be brought out to accompany you for ST or LT and you need to pay the bar a fee known as bar fine, a terminology that I still find interesting. I guess the bar needs to recoup their investment on the girls in some way, since they are paid a monthly salary to work there. With so many of these bars around, I am pretty sure that competition for business is intense.

    That night, my friend and I went to the Walking Street for some GoGo bar hopping, and it is an area where the GG bars are concentrated. The GG bar uses the concept of girls parading through the center stage in rotation. Sometimes the girls would be half naked, and most times I can tell that they really hated to be up there doing this stupid routine. I can't really blame them since who wouldn't? Their faces were mostly expressionless and if they happen to notice that you are looking in their direction, would occasionally flash a smile to see if you might be interested to buy them a drink after they got off stage. My so-called lady drinks have ranged from anywhere between 150 to 200 B. I would get to check if I can have the chemistry with the girl that way. If not, I would pay my bill and move on to the next bar.

    That late night I ended up booking LT with a girl at the bar called Airport. That was the bar that has no bar fine, but regardless the prices will always be factored in. It's just how you want to call them. I negotiated with the mamasan on the prices directly and it took a few counter offers. By the way, I find the amount that you pay for the girls are very subjective so I am not going to reveal how much I have paid. Your price is always going to be determined by your available information and context, your level of desire, and your willingness to walk away. YMMV (your miles may vary).

    From my experience so far, bar fines have remained consistent at 800 B at all the bars. The GG rate can go anywhere from 2000 to 5000 B for LT from what I am told. But don't take my words literally. However, girls would be willing to negotiate as the night drags on, as they would prefer to earn something rather than nothing as GG bar closes at 3 AM if I not mistaken.

    After bar fining the girl, we went to watch the pussy show just right above the Airport bar. Let's just that after that show, I have a greater sense of distaste for coke and anything that comes out of the pussies. Those things can kill, LOL.

    Day 2:

    Slept till 11 AM with the girl from the previous night, and would have slept even further if I had not been interrupted by the hotel receptionist asking me if I wanted to extend my hotel stay, and I said yes.

    Later in the afternoon, I went back to the same massage place for a foot massage with the same girl. For some reason, I was attracted to her, but like a teenager, I was too chicken to ask her out, hahaha. But the bigger barrier is of course the Thai language, which I know nothing about.

    Later, my friend and I went for another round of walk through Soi 6 again and ended up at Lisa bar. Next to Lisa bar was Ruby. I noticed a girl seated just a few seats away that attracted me. She sat quietly and looked very shy. She would look away even after I have looked at her and showed sign of interest. Maybe I was in the wrong bar. So I closed my bill and stepped into Ruby and bought her a drink. Again, communication has remained a barrier, and beyond a few simple greetings, I have to rely on Google translate.

    I liked her and decided to bar-fine her for LT, since it would not be a bad idea to have an escort in Pattaya for a day. GG bar demands upfront payment, but for this joint, I can pay her after her services, except for the bar fine which I have to pay first. This is a good sign, since I really hate to pay upfront for any services. We would take leisurely stroll and relax on the beach, and later on head back to the hotel for a quick session. That evening, we would spend our time in I-Bar, and later Insomnia. That girl can really hold her drink, as I found myself getting drunk faster over the same rounds of tequila shots. Also, I find it much cheaper to just order a bottle. We would drink, dance and make out all night. It was a great experience to be pempered by her that night.

    Day 3:

    Went back to the Thai massage place again for the third time for massages with the same girl. By now, she had grown comfortable with me. Too bad that it was my last day in Pattaya and logistically it would be difficult to ask her out.

    That evening, my friend and I went more GG bar hopping. He had his favorite at Peppermint, and we stopped by to bar fine his girl, before our next stop to Baccara. I have posted a brief report of Baccara earlier, and so I am going to skip the section here. Anyway, I bar fined a girl later on, and initially she was fun to be with. We spent time in Lucifer drinking and dancing. However, I had to later kick her out of my room, and again it was in my previously posted report, LOL. In the end, I texted the girl from last night, and she agreed to come by my hotel after getting off work from the bar.

    One more thing that I almost forgot to mention. My sexual experience with these girls were not great. They were either inexperienced or not into it. I find sex with the GG girls particularly bad. Forget about getting a BBJ from the GG girls, and usually I have no problem with CBJ and I prefer that route in places like this. However, you cannot do CBJ and yet still be repulsive by the condom taste. That's a bad combination. For great sex experience, I would still prefer the FKK route in Germany.

  3. #23574
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Touch is opening another gogo bar in LK Metro, directly across the alley. Supposed to open on September 30 but looks far from being complete. The dancer poles are in though.
    I have a feeling it isn't really a true GoGo, but more like Fever, smaller Climax, or the what Champagne did, more of a bar with table dancing? LK patrons seem more interested in drinking outside than inside?

  4. #23573

    Touch 2

    Touch is opening another gogo bar in LK Metro, directly across the alley. Supposed to open on September 30 but looks far from being complete. The dancer poles are in though.

  5. #23572

    1000 for the 1000th

    I just arrived from Manila. I went downstairs to see what was up with the bus for 120 baht. It was 8:57 and the 9 am was full. Next bus at 10 am. I went back up to the 4th floor to get a taxi. Before I could walk outside a private car that was driving by was flagging me over. He said where are you going? I said Pattaya. He said 1500 baht. I said no way, 900. He said okay. I jumped in and he told me he would take me to the lot and get me into another car. I have done this 1000 times and told him that I knew. Got to the lot and changed to a Toyota Minivan. I asked the new driver how much of the 900 baht goes to the guy that dropped me off. He said 200 baht. I should arrive in Pattaya in no more than 1 hour 15 minutes.
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  6. #23571

    More on the October Holidays / closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    Oct 13 Friday Anniversary of the Death of King Bhumibol National holiday.

    Oct 23 Monday Chulalongkorn Day National holiday.

    Oct 26 Thursday Cremation of King Bhumibol National holiday.

    Expect closures on these days. Do not listen to the people who say things will be shut down for 10 days. It was not even that long when he passed away. When the king passed away, closures were only a few days and when the bars reopened they were asked to shut down early and to keep the noise levels down only.
    ENTERTAINMENT:

    General translation of official statement from Thai Government News Website.

    Thai government does not prohibit entertaining activities or events during The Royal cremation ceremonies in October except for the following:

    The Prime Minister only mentioned that on 26th October the day of the actual cremation that should consider the appropriateness; I. E. Live music in public area should be restrained.

    During 21st 25th October the entertainment activities should be scaled down.

    Other activities / events such as weddings or alcohol serving should be managed in private venue within hotels. (more details on this later).

  7. #23570
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    Twenty minutes in the room, I told her to, for the lack of a better word, to fuck off.
    How much did you end up paying her? what was your negotiated rate before the date?

  8. #23569
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    LOL. And some would have you believe you get what you pay for, if something goes wrong you can go crawling back to the mamasan because you bought her drinks, etc. I stick with FL and disco chicks because to me pussy is just not worth shelling out 5000 or so baht at a gogo bar. I can get 5 LT FL for that price. And if something goes wrong (only 1 time out of hundreds that it did and of course I did not pay the girl) then 1000 baht is no big deal. But you would have never known had you not experienced it for yourself. Now you do not have to worry about regrets left over from not paying the extra $X for the girl you really wanted.
    Indeed, Beach road is my best friend. The only time I will take a girl that works in a gogo bar is if it's after hours and I happen to catch her on the way home. I will only do FL's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest1  [View Original Post]
    And The bad: I knew about the racism at some places in Thailand, so normally try to avoid Go Gos in walking street. But this time my friend insisted on visiting one there, and we end up at the gate of Baccara. They stopped us because of our South Asian look (though we are from different country). We went to one of the police booth, and at first a Belgian policeman explained to us his helplessness, then he directed to us a local cop. After listening to us, he came with us to the club, and had a conversation with them. But he came back with the same helplessness look saying don't allow Indians and Arabs inside. I guess some guys are still living in 50's. We thanked him for at least coming with us and showing some support. I still believe it has to be illegal in this country. Anyway I wrote to Thailand Tourism Authority, and exploring other avenues where I can raise this.
    I hear women making racist comments about Indian and Arab men as well. I also saw this happen in Thailand twice at establishments to Indian looking fellas. Once I asked a proprietor what the deal was; why the discrimination? I am by no means co signing his rationale but this is what he said in tarzan English "you come from america. Pay big money for ticket and long vacation. You no cheap. Indian pay little money come here. Cheap short flight. No want to pay for nothing."

  9. #23568
    And all this time, I thought Pattaya was a small backwards village for, among other things, allowing establishments to blatantly engage in racist door policies.

    Who would have known that Pattaya was merely a trendsetter for the future? Now it seems that a hotel in the UK is following Pattaya's lead and banning certain male ethnicities from its clientel (well, at least those males who work for a certain airline anyways):

    http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/0...ines-crew.html

  10. #23567
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Now you do not have to worry about regrets left over from not paying the extra $X for the girl you really wanted.
    Haha! Good one my friend!

  11. #23566
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    So I brought back a girl from Baccarat for long time since she looked sweet and I thought we might have a good time. After drinking and dancing for a little while at the Lucifer bar, or at least that is what I think the name of the bar is, we headed back to the hotel. This is my experience so far. The girl was a total disaster, and her act of trying to be PSE totally turned me. Off. I felt like being rushed and totally acted tfke. Twenty minutes in the room, I told her to, for the lack of a better word, to fuck off.
    LOL. And some would have you believe you get what you pay for, if something goes wrong you can go crawling back to the mamasan because you bought her drinks, etc. I stick with FL and disco chicks because to me pussy is just not worth shelling out 5000 or so baht at a gogo bar. I can get 5 LT FL for that price. And if something goes wrong (only 1 time out of hundreds that it did and of course I did not pay the girl) then 1000 baht is no big deal. But you would have never known had you not experienced it for yourself. Now you do not have to worry about regrets left over from not paying the extra $X for the girl you really wanted.

  12. #23565
    So I brought back a girl from Baccarat for long time since she looked sweet and I thought we might have a good time. After drinking and dancing for a little while at the Lucifer bar, or at least that is what I think the name of the bar is, we headed back to the hotel. This is my experience so far. The girl was a total disaster, and her act of trying to be PSE totally turned me. Off. I felt like being rushed and totally acted tfke. Twenty minutes in the room, I told her to, for the lack of a better word, to fuck off. I want my last night here at Pattaya to be memorable, and not to waste my time with shitty act like this.

    Anyway, I texted the previous girl from last night who had provided me with a GFE experience, and I am just going to spend this night with her instead.

  13. #23564

    Self defeating

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest1  [View Original Post]
    The good; Had a nice time at Ruby's on Soi 6. Had few drinks with a dressed slim lady (all others were wearing shorts), then took her upstairs- 300 BF, and 1000 for her. Even after the session, she was hanging around and massaging and caring me well. Very nice experience.

    And The bad: I knew about the racism at some places in Thailand, so normally try to avoid Go Gos in walking street. But this time my friend insisted on visiting one there, and we end up at the gate of Baccara. They stopped us because of our South Asian look (though we are from different country). We went to one of the police booth, and at first a Belgian policeman explained to us his helplessness, then he directed to us a local cop. After listening to us, he came with us to the club, and had a conversation with them. But he came back with the same helplessness look saying don't allow Indians and Arabs inside. I guess some guys are still living in 50's. We thanked him for at least coming with us and showing some support. I still believe it has to be illegal in this country. Anyway I wrote to Thailand Tourism Authority, and exploring other avenues where I can raise this.
    Baby steps- you can't expect to change an entire culture as a tourist. More importantly, the only person you hurt is yourself by wasting time on your vacation complaining to various authorities. Just go where you are treated well and you have fun.

  14. #23563

    October 2017 Holidays & Closures.

    Oct 13 Friday Anniversary of the Death of King Bhumibol National holiday.

    Oct 23 Monday Chulalongkorn Day National holiday.

    Oct 26 Thursday Cremation of King Bhumibol National holiday.

    Expect closures on these days. Do not listen to the people who say things will be shut down for 10 days. It was not even that long when he passed away. When the king passed away, closures were only a few days and when the bars reopened they were asked to shut down early and to keep the noise levels down only.

  15. #23562
    I am currently sitting in Bacarra as I type up this report. Being the last night here at Pattaya, I wanted to check out this so called racist club, and want to find out what the hype is all about.

    There are two floors in this club, with the center stage separated by a glass ceiling between them. If you look up the glass ceiling, you can see the girls dancing without their underwear. It is also interesting to see how all these girls wore their uniforms, wigs and make up to look like anime girls. This club is definitely designed to attract the fantasies of Japanese and Korean clienteles.

    I would have to say the quality of the girls are far better than most girls that I had seen by here in Pattaya, having been gogo bar hopping the last three days. I also tried the ping pong balls experience. It was hilarious how as soon as I purchased the basket, the girls on center stage immediately screamed at you and wanted me to throw these balls in their directions.

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