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  1. #23477
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Another method that I use but never see anyone talk about is to negotiate as soon as you see the girl and before you get your dick set on her. Call her over and ask how much bar fine and how much for her. If she says 2500 you say that is too much and tell her 1500 is better. If she agrees to your lower price (still not agreeing to take her) then have some drinks with her and see how she warms up to you.
    Sounds good in theory, but I don't think I could pull it off.

    Getting a vendor to agree on your price, and then backing out is a huge faux-pas when bargaining (unless you discover at the last minute that something obvious is wrong with the goods). If you don't name the price, it's OK to back out on any or no pretext, but if you offer 1500 and she agrees to your price, backing out of the deal requires a solid excuse to avoid being offensive.

    I presume this is why you don't see people talking about this method -- it's one of those implicit social things that most people feel is off limits.

  2. #23476
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, but when you sit down and have a few beers with the chick and she is rubbing on your dick and whispering sweet nothings you might jump at the $10/ gallon. I guess a lot of guys get their heart set on a particular girl
    Not going to happen with me, or you for that matter. Who are you kidding? So if the girl starts rubbing your cock, you are going to agree to a 300% mark up, knowing full well that you can have another one (just as good looking) for less. That's not going to happen.

  3. #23475
    Quote Originally Posted by PipeLayer99  [View Original Post]
    When I'm in the USA, gas costs $3. 15 a gallon for super unleaded. If they tell me THEY want $10.00 a gallon, I will go to another place (woman). I'm not paying that price. Period!
    Yeah, but when you sit down and have a few beers with the chick and she is rubbing on your dick and whispering sweet nothings you might jump at the $10/ gallon. I guess a lot of guys get their heart set on a particular girl. Since it is in my nature to butterfly around anyway, I have no problem stepping to another woman if that one says something that I do not like.

    Another method that I use but never see anyone talk about is to negotiate as soon as you see the girl and before you get your dick set on her. Call her over and ask how much bar fine and how much for her. If she says 2500 you say that is too much and tell her 1500 is better. If she agrees to your lower price (still not agreeing to take her) then have some drinks with her and see how she warms up to you. This way you are not handing your wallet over to your dick as with the more common method of getting the price after your dick is already hard.

    Some say they do not like to negotiate because it kills the vibe or mood. With the method I described you have already done your negotiation before you establish a vibe or mood.

  4. #23474
    Quote Originally Posted by PipeLayer99  [View Original Post]
    So you figured it out good for you. Go ahead and pay 5 k for a 2 K hooker.
    When you claim that the GoGo 5 K stunner is the same as the 2 K FL of medium-good looks, you're lying not only to others but to yourself primarily. I'm talking about aesthetics only, then who's good in bed is another story.

    MrMan has a good point, it's an obvious one, it can be ignored, but it's true and always has been.

  5. #23473
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Yes you are here to tell others how to spend their money, and be a low price bragger. If that is what makes you feel superior, so be it. We understand very well. We also know that girls come in different qualities, and guys have different levels of stinginess. I am not going to tell other guys how much to spend.
    So you figured it out good for you. Go ahead and pay 5 k for a 2 K hooker. Good luck with that old man. I'm just stating the facts. You have been in Thailand long enough to know. Therefore you should know better. Key word is 'should'.

  6. #23472
    Quote Originally Posted by Soldierb11  [View Original Post]
    Of course it is a thanks. There are about 10 of you guys on this forum that set a good tone with the result being there is more information on this thread then there is on most others. There is also 10% of the drama / bickering / dick measuring that goes on in the other ones. Why? Because the newbies generally follow your lead. I live about 4 months in Colombia and 2 months in Brazil annually but those threads I very rarely read or comment on because of the nature of the thread.

    Now to follow on to FL Hawks most recent observation. There is a difference between the tourists such as myself and Hawk vs. The residents such as Mr. E and banana boi. I know for a fact that if Mr. E paid 1000 for a girl I will probably pay 1500. I will also guarantee that the reception I get at agogo clubs will not be the same that BB gets when he strolls in. I know this and accept it. Its sex tourist vs. Long term resident. Likewise in Medellin, there are few people that will get the service / prices that I get. Does that make me the man? No. Does that makes my dick bigger. Hell no. It only means I have put the boots on the ground for a long time there and have built up experience and contacts.

    FL Hawks other observation about not paying for something or someone and regretting it. I have a lot of experience seeing people dying, some in the service but much more at my hospital when I was working. Not one person, not one! Has ever told me on their deathbed about a regret stemming from something they did. Everyone always regrets what they didn't do!

    So, guys listen if a smoking hot agogo girl quotes you 1000 baht more, don't pass, don't miss out. Take her or one day I will see you on your deathbed and you will tell me "doc, I should've taken that Fon from Baccara she was fucking hot but I lost her over 1000 baht".

    I will politely wait until no one is around and then call you a dumbass. Life passes way too quickly. (what you should've done is see if you will accept 500 baht less and then just go. Or pay her 1000 more than you want but negotiate that she doesn't leave until 3 pm and you fuck her at night, in the morning and in the afternoon before she leaves.
    In this case, you are putting TOO much emphasis on pussy. Maybe some guys aren't getting enough snatch. Or maybe you have money to blow and are wasteful. I'm not even going to ask you why or guess. But I know how much pussy costs here in Pattaya. More guys need to read the forum and get educated. Doesn't matter If I live here for 9 months a year or only come for 1 month. I'm not going to pay 5000 for ass that I KNOW I can have for 1200 or 1500.

    When I'm in the USA, gas costs $3. 15 a gallon for super unleaded. If they tell me THEY want $10.00 a gallon, I will go to another place (woman). I'm not paying that price. Period!

    Plus the big kicker. For everyone else reading, even though you pay 5000 baht, doesn't mean you are going to have a great session. You pay a huge price tag and get lame service, then what??

    You will say, Well I was on vacation so I just paid what she wanted.

    My point is, you don't need to pay that much.

  7. #23471
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Runway is the current name. It was named Nui's a couple of years ago.
    Funny, maybe that is the reason I never stepped into the place for a number of years? Never really look close enough to realized it? Still can't on the surface I walked by last light and saw Nui's as usually the new owner? When can't even take the time to remove the old logo instead just place up two banners that doesn't even cover the old sign?

    I remember Nui's go go, around 2000, a former dancer little stunner that work at Happy Go Go, hit the lottery with a customer, got married, and the new husband purchased the place for her. Not sure if the place was already named Nui's or she renamed it Nui's 2? I visited the place after I found out from a girlfriend still working at Happy told me of her fortune, I visited thinking she might be the mamasan but didn't see her.

  8. #23470

    Runway

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    Correct, it is the club right next door to Sensation, but the actually name isn't Runway, the sign refers to Runway girls but I believe the club name is Nui's Go Go, it could also be they haven't removed the old sign Nui's, and the actual future name is Runway?
    I did see a Nui's sign near Sensations a few nights ago. I will stop in there before I leave town.

  9. #23469
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Or she just may be inclined to go home, or to the disco. Back to the bar or stay with you are not her only options.
    Mama sick must go take care.

  10. #23468
    Runway is the current name. It was named Nui's a couple of years ago.

  11. #23467
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Likely because it's a tiny club beside Sensations.
    Correct, it is the club right next door to Sensation, but the actually name isn't Runway, the sign refers to Runway girls but I believe the club name is Nui's Go Go, it could also be they haven't removed the old sign Nui's, and the actual future name is Runway?

  12. #23466
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixonbd  [View Original Post]
    Even better is to get the girl close to closing time. So she can't go back to the bar. She will be inclined to stay with you longer into the morning. JMHO.
    Or she just may be inclined to go home, or to the disco. Back to the bar or stay with you are not her only options.

  13. #23465
    Quote Originally Posted by MrManGuy  [View Original Post]
    Its not 5000 baht for a piece of ass, its 5000 baht for the entire night. Lets say she spend 8 hours with you, then she is only making 625 baht an hour, or $20 an hour, dirt cheap, girls on soi6 are charging 1000 baht for an hour ST. I have had 2500ST last 4 hours. It is all very, very affordable. And you need to consider that Thai hookers are far more charming outside of sex than any western escort.

    The one's charging 5k are very well built and usually about 22. They won't be 22 forever. These are their peak earning years; they need to make money. 5k is entirely reasonable. What I get a bit annoyed about is the barfines, drink prices and the frequency with which the bars expect us to buy drinks, combined with the rudeness of their staff. If the staff were polite and friendly and weren't pushing you for another drink after 5 minutes I'd be a bit more accepting of the prices, but right now I just don't want to set foot into a GoGo. They fill me with rage.

    I could easily end up spending 500 on drinks plus 2k on barfine and then the girl only ends up with 5k, so 7.5k in total with 2.5k going to the bar ! The bar isn't sucking my dick !

    Other than that I feel it is a bit disrespectful, with current Thai prices, to expect a top of the line girl to go LT for 2.5k. Thailand is expensive. The girls are humans too and are doing this to make money. 5k isn't a lot in the scheme of things, just pay her.

    If the bar staff were polite and treated customers with the respect and going to the bar was a good experience, that such high drink prices should command then I'd be happy. The girls really should be nude and doing sex shows for those prices.
    Good logic. If you go into a go-go intent on taking the cream of the crop, best to do it quickly and take her for drinks at a more reasonable bar for her drinks. Even better is to get the girl close to closing time. So she can't go back to the bar. She will be inclined to stay with you longer into the morning. JMHO.

  14. #23464
    Quote Originally Posted by MrManGuy  [View Original Post]
    Its not 5000 baht for a piece of ass, its 5000 baht for the entire night.
    Depends on the place you are talking about. That Whats Up place is way more than 5000 for the entire night.

  15. #23463
    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    I hear you, but it is not always that simple. Though I don't think I have ever actually spent 5000, I have indeed tried to negotiate a lower price a few times and I usually fail. I remember one hottie who wanted 4000 and I tried to get her town to 2500, trying to be cool operator like some of you old timers, and she would not budge. I walked away, and ended up taking home a cheaper, and must less hot, girl. I don't remember who I took home or what I ended up paying, but I remember the hottie I left behind. And the money I saved means nothing to me now. Only the memory means anything, and it isn't so good.

    I do agree that the stunners often turn out to be star fish. A couple of stunners I had who left me drooling pretty much just lied there. At the time, I didn't care! When I saw one of them a second time, though, I got bored and never bothered to take her out again. The best places for a GFE for me have been on Soi 6. They are still attractive, but will go crazy with you. I haven't run across a crazy stunner. So, newbies, go ahead and spend the bucks for that hot girl if she is still cheaper than a similar girl back home. You have spent a lot of money to get to LOS, and if $50 or $100 is in your budget for that once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, go for it.
    Its not 5000 baht for a piece of ass, its 5000 baht for the entire night. Lets say she spend 8 hours with you, then she is only making 625 baht an hour, or $20 an hour, dirt cheap, girls on soi6 are charging 1000 baht for an hour ST. I have had 2500ST last 4 hours. It is all very, very affordable. And you need to consider that Thai hookers are far more charming outside of sex than any western escort.

    The one's charging 5k are very well built and usually about 22. They won't be 22 forever. These are their peak earning years; they need to make money. 5k is entirely reasonable. What I get a bit annoyed about is the barfines, drink prices and the frequency with which the bars expect us to buy drinks, combined with the rudeness of their staff. If the staff were polite and friendly and weren't pushing you for another drink after 5 minutes I'd be a bit more accepting of the prices, but right now I just don't want to set foot into a GoGo. They fill me with rage.

    I could easily end up spending 500 on drinks plus 2k on barfine and then the girl only ends up with 5k, so 7.5k in total with 2.5k going to the bar ! The bar isn't sucking my dick !

    Other than that I feel it is a bit disrespectful, with current Thai prices, to expect a top of the line girl to go LT for 2.5k. Thailand is expensive. The girls are humans too and are doing this to make money. 5k isn't a lot in the scheme of things, just pay her.

    If the bar staff were polite and treated customers with the respect and going to the bar was a good experience, that such high drink prices should command then I'd be happy. The girls really should be nude and doing sex shows for those prices.

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