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  1. #24283

    The paragraph of the year.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobJones  [View Original Post]
    I have over the last couple of days

    "Man, I activated my tinder and thai friendly account a month before arriving, and had all these freelancer contacts set up. Guess how many I saw guys? F'in 0! The concept was there, but shit there were just too many options. ".


    Rob.
    That's reality bro, thumbs up. Been there done that, prior Patts visit I have always sort of collected online contacts but man o man the live opportunities are endless.

  2. #24282
    Quote Originally Posted by HardKnock734  [View Original Post]
    Got a handful of line ids but you guys know how those conversations go- there's only so many "I miss you!" and "How are you" before you're over it.
    Yes, that is the majority of Line IDs that I collected too. Too many simple text messages. Same situation with girls from ThaiFriendly/ThaiFlirting, beer bars, and go go bars.

    But there can be a few good ones too. I've had interesting text messages and video chats with a go-go girl ever since I met her in November. Been doing the same with a Thai girl I met in a restaurant in January. I'll spend a week with one or both on my next visit. To make this work you need a girl with a decent brain and the ability to speak English, there are a few.

  3. #24281
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    The girl that I had stayed from 3 am to 1 pm. If 10 hours is not a real Long Time, then how many hours would you say is?
    I already wrote a bit more detail previously why that doesn't work for me as a "LT" from a P4P perspective even though she is in my room for a "long time".

    If I have to elaborate further I guess I would say it is because it runs so contrary to my own sleep and waking up schedule; if I am finishing the first round that time of the morning (say about 5 am if not later) and then finishing the second round by 12:30 pm that afternoon (likely having begun that same morning) with a few hours sleep in between, I feel like I am just packing it in twice on the same day, in fact the same morning by virtually any usual definition, in order to accommodate HER After Hours schedule instead of my normal night time interest and normal morning interest in having sex, such that it is for me these days.

    And I said that is from someone who lives here, not an overseas tourist whose sleep and waking up schedule is likely mixed up for a while anyway.

  4. #24280
    Quote Originally Posted by HardKnock734  [View Original Post]
    Rob, I think the pivot is a solid move. I get a bit ocd at times and overplan, but no day ever followed suit, if anything it was the complete opposite. Time flies when you're on the ground there so just manage it as effectively as possible. I love the 10 baht buses for example, but sitting in traffic repeatedly is killer. Motorbike taxis all day every day. With the online contacts there is also the risk that they aren't as good looking or have old pictures. My 'plan' was to innocently invite a bunch out to a bar for drinks and pick / choose from there. Just never got a chance to put it into motion. Why gamble when there are sure things right under your nose you know? Just my 2 cents.

    Cheers, you will have a blast.
    Thanks Mate.

    Like you I overplan and usually it doesn't work as well as I think it should so I will save my online contacts for when I am stuck but it will be like taking ice to the Arctic.

    Thanks Rob.

  5. #24279
    Quote Originally Posted by RobJones  [View Original Post]
    I'm thinking of changing tact and to enjoy the hunt and save my contacts when things look a bit desperate.
    Rob, I think the pivot is a solid move. I get a bit ocd at times and overplan, but no day ever followed suit, if anything it was the complete opposite. Time flies when you're on the ground there so just manage it as effectively as possible. I love the 10 baht buses for example, but sitting in traffic repeatedly is killer. Motorbike taxis all day every day. With the online contacts there is also the risk that they aren't as good looking or have old pictures. My 'plan' was to innocently invite a bunch out to a bar for drinks and pick / choose from there. Just never got a chance to put it into motion. Why gamble when there are sure things right under your nose you know? Just my 2 cents.

    Cheers, you will have a blast.

  6. #24278

    Pre-visit contacts

    I have over the last couple of days enjoyed reading Hardknocks reports and, for a first time visitor to Thailand soon found them educational.

    "Man, I activated my tinder and thai friendly account a month before arriving, and had all these freelancer contacts set up. Guess how many I saw guys? F'in 0! The concept was there, but shit there were just too many options. ".

    This being the most relevant to me. My trip is in 2 weeks and like the quote above I have started to make some freelance contacts. I'm thinking of changing tact and to enjoy the hunt and save my contacts when things look a bit desperate. I do have a bi-sexual couple organised for a threesome and that will be possibly the only contact I will keep.

    Thanks again Hardknocks.

    Rob.

  7. #24277

    Closing thoughts I. E. More rambling

    All, thanks for the kind words! I wasn't sure how much substance my reports really offered as I didn't get into prices that much and wasn't sure what value all my "rambling" would truly offer. Reading back over them, I did leave some minor things out like I went back into Bliss after the shocker from Nam to see Dao, but she had a customer. She still came over for a drink and I could sense her customer staring so I went in for one last obnoxious make out session, haha. The cutie from earlier was also no where to be found, but I am not sure I would've taken her there as I wouldn't want to make Dao look bad. The soi 6 girl charged 2000 the first two nights and the last night didn't ask for anything. Just one of those "up to you" I hate when they say that LOL. I gave her 1000.

    I really should be saying thank you to all of you who consistently contribute throughout the year; reading your posts helped keep me focused on doing better this go round! During my first visit in March, I had 2 girls in Phuket over 3 days, 3 in Pattaya, and 0 in Bangkok as I fell in love with the beer bar girl Patty and brought her with me to BKK. Fun, but limited the trip. In one of my reports I actually said "I think I'm falling for this girl" LOL! A couple members straight up called me out (thank you BkkDog, MR E and BB) for not thinking rationally.

    The only rule I broke this go round was that I said I wouldn't repeat with any girls, and I did twice; Once in Bangkok due to there literally being nothing NYE and the soi 6 girl who loved sex and would do anything over the course of the night a steal when most providers consider long time 2 pops. Nam would've been 3, but I guess that one wasn't meant to be. Well ok I lied, I did break another cardinal rule and will be on edge for the next few weeks- I went bareback with a Bangkok bargirl, the soi 6 girl all 3 LTs, and a LT session with a girl in HCMC. God it felt so good. Please please let me come out of this unscathed and I will wear condoms! . until it just inadvertently happens during that next GFE. Fml.

    Man, I activated my tinder and thai friendly account a month before arriving, and had all these freelancer contacts set up. Guess how many I saw guys? F'in 0! The concept was there, but shit there were just too many options. Something for everyone in the land of smiles! My buddy loved Kinnaree, I am a fan of Soi 6, we BOTH loved Walking Street haha. I talked with a couple veterans who had been there more than a dozen times and one loved the beer bars (the fact that they are behind the bar just seems limiting, there can be a gem every now and then like Joy and Patty inside Simon), and others were all about the freelancers. We did do one lap through Lucifer one night but it was so damn loud in there, I questioned my ability to build any rapport or even negotiate prices. Myself being a binge drinking idiot, I also do not need to be buying full bottles of liquor as it never ends well! In the end, we decided that buying a 5 dollar lady drink in exchange for a lapdance, inspection of the goods, and establishing rapport is the best policy. I mean shit! In north America a lapdance is $20 and you MIGHT be able to touch. But even then you are stuck with blue balls as it's incredibly hard to pull them.

    Oh the Pattaya / Thailand withdrawals are real! Fortunately, I took some good videos to perk me up, but they only go so far. Got a handful of line ids but you guys know how those conversations go- there's only so many "I miss you!" and "How are you" before you're over it. I didn't really talk money but I just looked at my spends. To be expected, fun had a direct relationship with spending. My budgeted spend per day was $200, it worked the first 2 days, but then doubled on my last planned day there as I wanted to do as much as possible. The impulse "hot route" return came in $700. Veterans can shake their heads here, I know it was reckless buying all the drinks and whatnot, but I guess we just like to have fun. Wherever you are in the world when you are having fun the girls can sense it and will want in. IMHO. Honestly, I am a pretty frugal person at home, but my buddy and I were talking and shit who knows the next time we will be here, healthy, and ready to go! It really is only money and you can't take it with you. Thinking of that 15 HR flight makes me want to throw up! I used to fancy providers in the US but we are talking 3-500 dollars per hour! Now I just fight the urge, think about how far that 9-16,000 baht can go in Pattaya, and jerk off / bone my girlfriend (I have issues I know LOL). I don't know how it was in Patts 10-20 years ago, but I've mongered in Germany, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Amsterdam, USA, Canada, Spain, Mexico, and Vietnam, and all I know is that Pattaya is my best available option NOW!

    TL; DR.

    My buddy and I are talking about coming back in September. I said it is one of the rainier months, and he said "what do we do in Pattaya when its sunny out?" I said "bone bargirls ", he said "what do we do in Pattaya when it's raining?" . Ahh the student has become the teacher. The quote of the trip was when we were sitting in Skyfall with topless girls grinding on us after we bought them a lady drink and he said "mutherf'er why didn't you prep me for this? I guess I just didn't want to tell him too much as it's best to experience everything yourself without anyone's preconceived notions. He did thank me for pushing the individual rooms. LOL. I met a cool at $$ canadian fellow in Skyfall while I was waiting for the girl to get ready my last night and we ripped some shots. He spoke very highly of Phnom Penh and said he was doing 10 days there after 6 in Pattaya. I may try and add this to the itinerary this fall.

    I think my game plan would be as follows:

    -Kinnaree at 2 pm to get a place on the couch and pounce on a worthy candidate.

    -Soi 6 from 5-7 to find another worthy candidate, Simon Beer complex to search out hidden gem at 8:30/ tequillas with mamasan.

    -Walking street at 9, NLT 10 (we were heading out at midnight and that was an oversight on our part, we could've already had a short time with a stunner by then!

    -Get a short time in, then back out to walking street to search out another ST / LT candidate while having Soi 6 / Kinnaree girls as backup options (key word backup haha).

    That's all I got fellas, hopefully next time I can meet up with some of the "brotherhood"! More the merrier imo! . My buddy and I were just talking about how hard it would be to describe Pattaya to people back in America. My buddy said "it is the end of the world", I call it "heaven".

  8. #24276
    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure you can find better looking talent on Soi 6 or LK Metro for cheaper and more value.
    That girl is much better than anything I saw on soi 6 in October.

  9. #24275
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    However, anything starting as late as 3 AM would not be a real "Long Time" as far as I am concerned anyway.
    The girl that I had stayed from 3 am to 1 pm. If 10 hours is not a real Long Time, then how many hours would you say is?

  10. #24274

    Hardknock

    Hardknock.

    You are the man. I love your reports and you have me hanging for my 5 days in Patts and 2 in BKK in just over 2 weeks. I hope I have half as much fun as you guys.

    Thanks again man and its a shame I wasn't on the ground with you.

    Rob.

  11. #24273

    Here now!

    Hey guys. I'm here alone,3rd time in Pattaya. Having a great time so far. Any want to share some stories over some drinks. I'm 40 Hispanic form USA. Super chillin. Gets along with everyone. Just want to talk a break from all these LT sessions. LOL. Maybe check out other bars. Hit me up on line.

    Cms77.

    Or PM me.

  12. #24272

    Kudos to you guys Hardknock

    As someone who is in Pattaya now, I've got to tell you that you guys have done super great! Hats off to you guys.

    I think the girls seem to truly like you! You've obviously got some game! Cheers and all the best!

  13. #24271
    Hardknock, I finished reading your trip reports a few minutes ago. They indicate a certain style and oeuvre while doing BKK & Pat with your buddy. I also like your taste in girls. Glad you had a good time. I know your reports are just the tip of the iceberg, but they are definitely ROD material. Welcome to the ISG. So, where else have you knocked about?

  14. #24270
    Hardknock, thank you so much for all your Bangkok and Pattaya reviews. Nice to read things that aren't about the 'good old days' 20 years ago.

  15. #24269

    Pattaya unexpected audible return visit 1/7

    Man it sure feels good to be back! Checked into Grand Hotel and took a motorbike taxi to Kinnaree. Half the girls were ones that I had not seen before. I was actually interested in the one my buddy had last time (Thai?) as her body and face were ridiculous. My buddy found another one that was pretty solid, and ended up giving him the blowjob of his life! I was impressed with the patience and control that I was exercising at this point, when I saw a girl walk up to the bar that caught my eye. She smiled when walking by and I looked over in her direction. There is a friendly older provider here- Veeva? That is very nice and asked if I liked anyone. I motioned towards her, and Koy was her name. She said she would come over after she was done with her customer. 10 minutes later she came and I got her a drink. IT was now about 5 and she broke the news that she could not go with me as there is a 30 min wait on the rooms and she has to be at work in LK Metro at 6. Dangit! I asked my buddy if I could just take his room, and he said no problem, but the girls said we cannot as it was already charged to him. Then Koy said why don't I pay the barfine and she can come to my hotel. She said she has a motorbike, so she can just give me a ride back. Money! Paid the tab and off we went. I must say it is fun riding on the back of a scooter with a pretty thai lady. Back to the room and I was just going through the motions at this point, her tits weren't as big as I thought (pictured) I think my problem is that I just enjoy the chase. You know JFK said the chase is always better than the kill? I tend to agree. Pounded away doggie style and shot it all over her at $$.

    Now check this out. I walk out to smoke a cigarette and see this incredibly attractive girl pull up on her motorbike and park it outside the hotel. I'm thinking she must work at one of these gogos and I am going to find out which one. She turns the corner towards walking street, looks over her shoulder and sees me, DOH I've been made already, well there goes my career as a spy, haha. I just walk straight and grab some San Mig Lights from 711, when my buddy shows up out of no where. I tell him I found my stunner, and he seems interested in trying to find her. We walk towards that direction and at this point, I am thinking she is lost. All of a sudden I see her walk out of the 7/11 further down the walking street and into Bliss. OK I will see you latah!

    Taking the lessons learned from before we decide to hit the gogos around 930 this go round. We are ready around 9 so we go pay a surprise visit to mamasan in that simon beer bar. Only this time I notice a girl who I've seen in pictures with the girl I fell for last year. We introduce ourselves and her name was Joy, nice body and quite a beauty. We rip some shots of tequila and I ask her if shed be interested in long time wit my friend. She says yes. We head to Baccara, nothing doing, and move onto Happy agogo. My buddy spots a hot chick with some old Chinese man. I make eye contact with her and give her the drink motion and she nods. Not sure if she is coming over or not, she does leave them after 10 minutes or so. The dirty looks we got from the Chinese were priceless! She is a true beauty and my buddy said he will barfine her. I told him I'm going to Bliss and I'll meet him at the hotel after these short time sessions. I be-line it to Bliss, and see her on stage right when I walk in. She smiles and I ask her if I can buy her a drink, she says when she is finished dancing, her name is Dao (pictured). Another cutie in the place was smiling at me, and I honestly would have taken her if my heart wasn't already set on Dao. Well I did buy her a drink while waiting but told her I was going with Dao. I said maybe ill come back for her later and she perked up. Dao came over and man what a beauty. She had the makeup caked on, and I think I liked her more when I saw her earlier without it. 3000ST + 1000 Barfine, done, we go back for one of the more memorable sessions. Just when we got into the room, my buddy was coming back and I tell him he has to come see this girl, he is amazed. His girl was pretty sexy to, as she closes the door I say "I know you'll be thinking about that old Chinese guy" and she laughs. Now Dao and I get busy. Passionate kisses followed by a sensual blowjob, I am digging her vibe. Unrushed, just the way I like it. I am really feeling this girl. Rather than just straight bone, I can say we did a little love making. The rest is a blur, and I think my only regret from this night was not taking her long time!

    From here, I have missed calls from Nam, Oh yeah I told her that I would come see her at Whats Up at open,. Whoops! We head there and man she is looking as stunning as ever. I tell her that my buddy wants to do some more partying, but I will pay her barfine and come back for her. Was this not a good move? She said it was ok and I figured I was just reserving her for myself, no? We head to Skyfall, and my buddy still tries for that pornstar looking one, offering 12,000 short time. She says she will go but just to hang out, get the f out of here! I do see the girl that was dancing on me from day 2 though. She sits with me and asks why I never came back for her.

    We head back to Simon and rip more tequila. My buddy said he is just going to barfine Joy LT, I said you can't go wrong. I leave and say I'm going to get Nam and bring her here. Back at Whats Up she sees me and changes. I see the one with the glasses who told me I am too big and just offer outlandish numbers at her to see if she'the budge but there is nothing shed take to go with me LOL. I see Nam poke her head out an motion for me to come back. I do, and she gives me money back. WTF? She says she is on her period and that she's sorry. Damnit! Well there was no reasoning with her, I took that 4000 and walked to Skyfall and gave it to the girl from before. She seemed surprised, but happy and off we went. I think she was put off when we got back to the room as she saw the used shower cap and started calling me a butterfly. Oh well. She had great tits, meh behind. Probably the most painful BJ I've ever had. Like over the top sucking. Bruises on the shaft the next day fellas, not good. Anyway, this was the only girl that I could not finish with. She seemed distraught about it and said she would give me my money back. I said its not necessary, I've just had a lot to drink and also hate condoms. We went at it again, but it was obvious I was not blowing. She acted like she wanted to stay, but I had already made arrangements for my soi 6 girl to come by, so I had to shoe her out. She gave me my money back and walked out. I caught up to her, gave her half and said good night.

    At this point it is 4 am and I told soi 6 girl 3 am. Whoops. I call her and she said she will come. In the meantime my buddy pulls up on a motorbike taxi with Joy and says they had to go get her Dog. LOL! I am like, man it looks like you've been on some boondoggles. No worries though as she took good care of him thereafter! My girl finally pulled up and we got a quick bb session in and passed out. I woke up around 10 am and banged her out 4 or 5 times until late checkout at 1 pm.

    OK, now I feel that I've achieved my full potential. Until next time Patts. I'm out fellow mongerers!

    -HBK.
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