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  1. #9066
    Quote Originally Posted by BaddHabbit  [View Original Post]
    I do have fun going backwards and reading various posts over time. This one was so funny thought people might like another read. Need a +1 button!
    Hilarious!

  2. #9065
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    This is intended as a review of a virgin's introduction to PinaLove rather than a review of possible activities in Cebu...
    A great breakdown of strategy and results, definite 'Hall of Fame' review!

  3. #9064
    Quote Originally Posted by Flyboy2000  [View Original Post]
    Well if that's the case I hope he also sends her away empty handed, sooner or later she'll get the message instead of paying her for doing zip.
    I agree with you if a girl is obviously out there to con you and does not really want to give any service. But I think that was not the case here.

  4. #9063
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    I don't think she has learned anything from your lesson anyway. On the contrary, she probably had to pull that stunt again with another guy because you sent her away empty handed.
    Well if that's the case I hope he also sends her away empty handed, sooner or later she'll get the message instead of paying her for doing zip.

  5. #9062
    Quote Originally Posted by Flyboy2000  [View Original Post]
    Again, true enough, but my aim here was to teach her a lesson - 500 P is really 'nothing' for us, we're talking US $10, but I truly wanted to make sure she 'got' the concept of not dicking around with guys so that she would't pull that time-wasting stunt again.
    500 P is indeed 'nothing' for us but it means a hell of a lot to her. I tried to 'teach YOU a lesson' in a gentle way LOL.
    I don't think she has learned anything from your lesson anyway. On the contrary, she probably had to pull that stunt again with another guy because you sent her away empty handed.

    It's not such a big deal. I, and all of us I guess, have made similar mistakes the first times we came to the Phils. And I'm still making mistakes.

  6. #9061
    Quote Originally Posted by BrainDrain  [View Original Post]
    I would add a level of advertising and sophistication to profiles and the connection pipeline. Both the pro & semi-pro will have dedicated profiles focused on attracting customers. The more casual girls will not have a dedicated profile, perhaps just meeting friendly facebook contacts that cross their paths when they are horny.
    The simplest way to pick the pros is to go back to a chat site after a few months away from it and see the same profiles there from month to month.

    I was away from pinalove for 6 months.

    When I opened up a new profile I saw many of the same posts from women who have been on the site for ages, using the same sexy pics and the same spiel that they have been using ever since they joined. Sometimes they update with a new sexy pic.

    They are obviously targeting the newbies who don't realize these women have been trawling for years.

    If they were seriously looking for a husband they would have found one by now, because their pics are often very sexy and provocative and would attract guys who didn't realize they have been there for ever..

    There can only be one other explanation.

  7. #9060
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    Remember these are merely my arbitrary divisions along a continuum. Any individual girl may be a mix of two adjacent types at any time and may cross over and back depending on circumstances. You may have a different method of dividing the girls but I find that this works well for me.
    I would add a level of advertising and sophistication to profiles and the connection pipeline. Both the pro & semi-pro will have dedicated profiles focused on attracting customers. The more casual girls will ot have a dedicated profile, perhaps just meeting friendly facebook contacts that cross their paths hen they are horny.

    BD.

  8. #9059
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for laying down the knowledge KG. I have never been able to get behind the semipro deal. To me, either she trades sex for money or she doesn't.

    ....
    For a pro, it is her full-time job. She makes no excuses and will fuck just about anyone anytime if the price is right. She will be a hardened expert at extracting the most money from you for the least effort on her part. She is FFF only.

    A semi-pro is in it for the extra money that she gets that supplements her other income. She has to like you at least a little. She may only be active when bills are due so that she can make rent payments etc. She differs from a regular girl who will accept "gifts" in that she asks for the money directly and takes it without having to fake calling it a "gift". There is a chance of a relationship here, best to keep it P4 P but you might make a commitment for a weekly romp where she is exclusive to you and have at least a 50% chance she would not fuck someone else after she leaves your place.

    They are both sex workers, the difference is in how often they work and how they view themselves in the job. Even a regular girl who accepts 'gifts' is a sex worker. The term is rather meaningless to me.

    Remember these are merely my arbitrary divisions along a continuum. Any individual girl may be a mix of two adjacent types at any time and may cross over and back depending on circumstances. You may have a different method of dividing the girls but I find that this works well for me.

  9. #9058
    Quote Originally Posted by Flyboy2000  [View Original Post]
    Again, true enough, but my aim here was to teach her a lesson - 500 P is really 'nothing' for us, we're talking US $10, but I truly wanted to make sure she 'got' the concept of not dicking around with guys so that she would't pull that time-wasting stunt again.
    Two days maid pay certainly made it worth her time.

  10. #9057

    A Virgin's introduction to PinaLove

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Typically I rely on face to face options (bars, shopping malls, freelancers etc) for hook ups. However, I'm in Dumaguete heading to Cebu tomorrow so I thought I would try my luck at using PinaLove to prearrange some options.

    Let me say upfront that I have zero experience with the Chat sites and zero Game when it comes to on line hook ups.
    This is intended as a review of a virgin's introduction to PinaLove rather than a review of possible activities in Cebu. For medical reasons, I found it difficult to walk long distances so did not visit any bars, discos etc in Cebu. Nor did I roam the streets and malls looking for freelancers. However, two days before I left Dumaguete for Cebu I did log onto PinaLove and created a profile.

    For various reasons, I'm not prepared to have my true photo, name and personal details visible for all to see. Initially my profile, with no photo, received essentially no attention nor replies to my approaches. I then placed a disguised photo on my profile and emphasised in my description that I was in-country, nearby and arriving in Cebu in two days. My search criteria were 18 to 28 females from Cebu City and it was typically me that sent the opening message. The rate of responses to my messages increased substantially.

    Early on chatting with the girls I confessed that I used a false profile ("because a friend had a girl black mail him and cause a lot of trouble so I'm don't want to have all my personal details visible to all to see. " my marital status and that I was not looking for a LTR nor a wife. One target replied that she "did not have time to waste" with me. The others that did reply didn't care.

    While in Dumaguete, most responders gave me their text or Viber numbers within two or three messages and a confirmation that we could meet - "just text me when you get to Cebu". All were very forthcoming because they were reassured that I was a real possibility and not just wasting their time looking for Camsex or naked photos. I never asked for photos (naked or otherwise), video chatted or had deep and meaningful conversations with anyone. I left the responses after a couple of chats, usually immediately after getting numbers and confirming that they would be happy to meet.

    When I arrived in Cebu the response rate to a text to come over was close to 100%. The first night was the only glitch. I arrived late and the intended target made endless promises so I just moved on to another who came over at short notice. Another threesome fell apart when one member literally fell asleep upon entering my room after a long day at work, apologised profusely and they both caught a taxi home. Again they were quickly replaced after one text.

    Over the next week I would text and meet candidates at the 7/11 or JollieBee nearest to my hotel. When they arrived I would go down and if all was well, we would go straight up to the room. I never needed to send anyone back home due to misrepresentation. Profile pictures were certainly selected to flatter but none were photoshopped nor another person. On a typical day I would get three to five texts requesting to drop around. I typically rationed myself to two or three shots a day. However, many more could have easily been achieved. I did have one night off to recharge the batteries. Sessions were typically 1 on 1 with a selection of threesomes. A+ was available but not widely promoted.

    All up, I found the process very simple and effective. I was looking for, and found, purely commercial commitments. No one was under the impression that an ongoing relationship was forming and I don't expect any unwanted surprise emails or Facebook invites when I return home. The only negative was that the quality of the girls was probably not quite as high as a good bar. The truely attractive girls were certainly holding out for the right offer rather than a night's romp with someone on holiday. Any effort required was in sorting good from bad and tracking multiple text numbers, names, faces etc. Timeliness was a lot better than I thought it would be and I had no security concerns. Costs were standardised at 1500/3000 P ST / LT plus about 200 p taxi fare. I also bought a couple of JollieBees and lunches but those costs were trivial when compared to a night of LDs.

    The numbers:

    69 initial messages sent.

    53 replies received.

    35 text numbers and ok to meet received.

    3 adhoc messages from "friends" or "cousins" received.

    4 permanently outside Cebu.

    2 returning in a couple of days.

  11. #9056
    Quote Originally Posted by Flyboy2000  [View Original Post]
    Yep, I can see where you're coming from, but I just don't have time for stunts like that.

    I didn't think of the BJ approach, but you know, my mood just went. It'd been hovering on the horizon for a bit due to those aforementioned alarm bells, when she broke the news I was immediately 'over it' and lost all interest. Although to be fair, if she'd have offered I may well have taken her up on it.

    Again, true enough, but my aim here was to teach her a lesson - 500 P is really 'nothing' for us, we're talking US $10, but I truly wanted to make sure she 'got' the concept of not dicking around with guys so that she would't pull that time-wasting stunt again.
    Flyboy you could have man up and earned some red wings.

    I doubt if you taught her a lesson in your teachable learnable moment.

  12. #9055
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Although understandable I think you have been a bit too harsh on her. It's very likely that she, being a single mother, desperately needed money and therefore didn't tell you right away she was having her period. For many people in the Phils money doesn't talk, it screams.
    Yep, I can see where you're coming from, but I just don't have time for stunts like that.

    You could have asked her to just give you a blowjob this time, and give her 500-1000 Peso, and then return after a couple of days when her period was over to give FS.
    I didn't think of the BJ approach, but you know, my mood just went. It'd been hovering on the horizon for a bit due to those aforementioned alarm bells, when she broke the news I was immediately 'over it' and lost all interest. Although to be fair, if she'd have offered I may well have taken her up on it.

    Or you could have given her some money for transportation and ask to return when her period was over. Now she probably lost money, even despite the free lunch.
    Again, true enough, but my aim here was to teach her a lesson - 500 P is really 'nothing' for us, we're talking US $10, but I truly wanted to make sure she 'got' the concept of not dicking around with guys so that she would't pull that time-wasting stunt again.

  13. #9054
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    Semi pro's.

    They are sex workers but usually only to supplement their salaries or for special needs. They don't like being offered money for sex but will accept a gift. They may not even ask for money leading people who don't understand the scene to think that they got free sex. That is akin to "sexual shoplifting".

    They need to get comfortable with you but will have sex first date.
    Thanks for laying down the knowledge KG. I have never been able to get behind the semipro deal. To me, either she trades sex for money or she doesn't.

    The sexual shoplifting comment got me to thinking about the reverse of that. The main chick that I deal with in Manila I met her probably 5 or so years ago on Date In Asia if I recall correctly. Probably the only reason that I still deal with her is because she has a huge ass that I love. When I first met her on there she told me up front that I would have to give her money to fuck. No problem. So the first time we met we actually took a trip to Coron because I was doing some scuba diving. When we got back I gave her 4000 pesos. We have also gone to Bohol together and it seems like somewhere else. Also give her 4000 then. When she comes to spend the night with me whenever I am in Manila I give her 2000. I will mention that she does have a regular call center job as well.

    For me the money for the big ass and the convenience of having someone that I know is not going to flake out come on my scuba diving trips works great. The thing is that I get weirded out because she tries to "relationship shoplift" by always calling me babe and telling me how much she misses me and asking when she is going to see me again; sending me all kinds of naked pictures and wating me to bring her more sex toys. She likes to travel and always asks where we are going to next. She actually brought up the idea and honestly thought that I would take her to Maldives. Shit like that leads me to believe she wants to be in a real relationship, but she never says anything about it nor has ever mentioned anything about other girls. So I guess it could actually just be considered an ultimate GFE.

    This is why I had to distance myself from her at the beginning of the year. It just felt awkward to me. So when she would send me messages I would not answer. So finally she met some guy (don't know if it is another foreigner from online or what) and gets pregnant from a one night stand. She does not even know anything about this guy. Saw him that one time and he is gone in the wind. And you know what she said? That she never got pregnant when I came inside of her. Nevermind she does not realize that I am not stupid enough to do that shit without a vasectomy. She attributed her meeting the guy to me ignoring her messages for a month or 2. Not that I would have given a fuck one way or the other, but that makes it seem like I was the only person she was dealing with. May be true, may not be true.

    So I started back dealing with her because I love pregnant pussy and will enjoy the milky tits now that she had the baby this past week. I guess the long term GFE from a chick that I am trading money for sex with creeps me out. It is probably because I have not been known to do too many repeats with chicks that I pay.

  14. #9053
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Although understandable I think you have been a bit too harsh on her. It's very likely that she, being a single mother, desperately needed money and therefore didn't tell you right away she was having her period. For many people in the Phils money doesn't talk, it screams.

    You could have asked her to just give you a blowjob this time, and give her 500-1000 Peso, and then return after a couple of days when her period was over to give FS.

    Or you could have given her some money for transportation and ask to return when her period was over. Now she probably lost money, even despite the free lunch.
    That is another big disadvantage of trying to meet chicks online before you go. You get your dick all hard just knowing you are about to be fucking this chick. But you do not know what the situation will be when you have boots on the ground. Maybe she will be super late or not able to make it that day. She might try to bring family along, might be on her period, some higher priority guy may be in town. Now all that time you spent talking up on some pussy (that you are probably paying for anyway) has been wasted. To avoid the frustration, it is much easier to go to a spot like Manila Bay Cafe and make a live choice.

    Guys like KG can afford to throw their line in the water and just wait for the proper bite. For guys that have limited time or that are not frequent visitors it leaves too much to chance. That is why whenever I go to a new place I check ISG to see what the pickup spots and cathouses are in case I need a backup for shit happening as it did with Flyboy.

  15. #9052
    Quote Originally Posted by Flyboy2000  [View Original Post]
    Anyway: we get into the room, and at the appropriate point I go to kiss her and it's barely a peck from her, I pull back and ask point blank what's wrong. She says she has her period! WTF?
    I just look at her, count to five, and then ask in a firm but not angry way why she agreed to meet me and come back to the hotel if she had per period? Did she ever have sex during her period? No, she replies, at which point I say "Well why did you come here? I think it's very selfish of you to do this to me" and March her back out the door, down to the lobby, she's totally clammed up like a frigging 8 year old caught doing something wrong by a parent and given a good speaking to, yet which point she has the asks for some money for her son. "Sorry but I bought you lunch and in return you wasted my time, so lunch is all you get today. ".
    I just can't fathom how anybody could have their brain in neutral to such an extent!
    Although understandable I think you have been a bit too harsh on her. It's very likely that she, being a single mother, desperately needed money and therefore didn't tell you right away she was having her period. For many people in the Phils money doesn't talk, it screams.

    You could have asked her to just give you a blowjob this time, and give her 500-1000 Peso, and then return after a couple of days when her period was over to give FS.

    Or you could have given her some money for transportation and ask to return when her period was over. Now she probably lost money, even despite the free lunch.

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