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  1. #41588

    Bangkok: Not as Safe as I Thought

    On my every six months SE Asia sweat and sex extravaganza. Pretty good so far although, at least in BKK, it has just involved blowjobs, numerous blowjobs at numerous establishments. BBBJ is pretty much my favorite thing in life since I am still too chicken to try for BBFS and despite a whole cabinet full of half empty condom boxes I still haven't found one that doesn't wilt the willy about thirty seconds in the CFS. Frankly, even BBBJ's are no guarantee of success as after a half century of serious self abuse it's rapidly approaching the stage that only a hydraulically closing industrial robotic device can provide enough stimulation, so generally a hand assist is required, too often one of mine doing the job. For this I traveled thirty hours? On the brighter side, after half a century I still haven't gone blind. Robotics are really moving along, though. I'll just have to make sure the one I buy's controls are clearly marked "Squeeze" and "Cut", maybe with a padlock lockout on the latter.

    But back to the present. I've been supporting Som's, Kasalong, and The Place Around The Corner Whose Name We Cannot Say (I wonder if that restriction will go away now that the ISG's credit card server is subject to change). Kasalong and Around the Corner have been unremarkable, and not really in a bad way, just really nothing to remark on. Veni, Vidi, Veni. Som's is a bit of a problem for me right now: There is a really chubby provider there, I believe about the most full-bodied provider I've ever had, who remembers me from previous visits. Yes, I could dodge her, though I generally take first in line and, let's face it, it is going to be her. A lot. No, my problem is that she provides the best blow job I've found in years. It is a bit of a dilemma: Normally one likes a certain amount of visual stimulation, and an average looker, when seen from the typical blowjob POV, can be imagined to be at least moderately hot. Somebody this large is REALLY a problem, and I generally have a pretty good imagination.

    My other haunts have been the go-gos, primarily Soi Cowboy but with a couple of ventures to Nana.

    I found two bars that I had somehow not visited. One, Crazy Cat, was a name change from one I hit long ago, maybe the Cocktail Club?. The other, though, was inexcusable: Somehow I had never realized the Lighthouse had dancers: I've always seen a bunch of aging farangs outside and assumed it was a standard outside bar. Holy crap, they had good music! If you are not a senior citizen YMMV. Dancers are okay, too, certainly not unfortunate to look at while rocking out to Deep Purple.

    But it was bait and switch: I returned two days later and yes, they were still playing old music, but it was all easy listening. I felt like I was trapped in an elevator. More elevators should have chicks in bikinis.

    Crazy Cat had some very cute girls but at least in the short time I was there they all seemed to be coyotes, though as discussed here that can be a vague term at times. Standard dancing but coyote outfits and, I believe, stockings. I would have gawked longer but out of nowhere a fifty nine year old woman sat down with me. All that eye candy and this is what I got? She didn't seem to be leaving in the near future so I tried to leave, only to be almost run over by a train of coyotes coming in for their set. I opened the curtain and POW! A set of tits in the face! I always sort of feared I'd get run over in Bangkok, but it turned out that it was not bad at all.

    But things turned to the worse: I got physically assaulted a few nights ago. Okay, it wasn't a really bad assault, but I can embellish the crap out of anything, so here goes. I was walking down Soi Cowboy towards Asoke, trying to get back to my air conditioned apartment before heat exhaustion set in. The coyotes can be quite obnoxious, but I walk at about four miles an hour and just ignore them. They look elsewhere for targets, probably because I obviously have some place to be. I say "obviously" because of course everyone else is walking half or a quarter as fast, at best. I think a lot of guys discover their feminine side when walking there, dawdling along like a woman shopping versus the targeted male shopping technique. I do not, and like an Everclear drinker know where I'm going and am in a hurry to get there. This of course creates a real problem as I have to thread my way through the oozing punters and tourists plus the stationary bikini babes. One thing I've found is that since the bikinis are trying to corral people walking down the middle of the alley, they extend their lines way out from their bars, leaving a surprisingly open area behind their butts. By "open" I mean a lane just wider then I am, only occasionally punctuated by a bikini or some ass-wipe staring at a mobile phone.

    I came across one of these bypass lanes somewhere around KISS and was off to the races. The bars were close on my right, the bikini butts were just inches away on my left, and the slot was closing. Tight slots are a good thing some times; this was not one of them. I was passing behind one bikini butt that was really trying to score some tourists, I believe, and was no doubt speaking at great lengths about how her bar and various parts of her body were far superior to the others' bars and body parts. She had a little plastic fan thing. It looked like a ping-pong paddle. And to make sure the tourists saw what an awesome bar she worked at she vigorously swung it back to point. And whacked its edge right into my face, particularly my nose, a nose that has really seen enough trauma already this year, what with its tip now being a former part of my forehead. It was quite a collision, possibly knocking the fan out of her hand. I didn't break stride and just walked on, later discreetly wiping my face to see if there was blood. There wasn't.

    A missed opportunity: I actually thought about it at the time but was too pissed (I'm pretty much always a bit pissed walking here) to do it, but I should have stopped, grabbed my nose, still slightly asymmetrically swollen from the surgery, and turned to her, "My God! Look what you've done! Look at my nose! I'm horribly disfigured!

    All that nose surgery money wasted: Might have gotten a free Coke or blow job.

  2. #41587

    Ah yes Macau.

    Quote Originally Posted by BionicMan  [View Original Post]
    You forgot the Macau's sauna experience.

    Close the a German FKK but to a far higher level of services of any kind. More pricey of course.
    Ah yes Macau. On my bucket list. Been reading reports that its gone downhill some but I guess same as FKK in Germany. Not as good as it used to be. Still best thing on the planet!

  3. #41586

    Long haul

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Being not too familiar with FKKs, I'm keenly interested in such a comparison and hearing exactly what the differences are. And I can't be the only guy here with the same interest.
    You have to take into account the cost of travel. From where I live it is 110 minutes easy flight time to Berlin. If I want to go to Bangkok I have a 1 hour flight and then a long haul flight. Another factor is whether or not you can tolerate the heat, humidity and traffic pollution of Bangkok.
    Last edited by WarmStone25; Yesterday at 19:24. Reason: Missed word

  4. #41585

    Kino no more

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Each country worldwide has a different format. Here are the ones I am familiar with with a few examples of where this is a good format. I can give recommended agencies and clubs if interested):

    Tho there is some variance, in an FKK there is a bar and restaurant area and a sauna and often gardens and a pool and Kino at the nicer ones like Oase and Sharks. some guys stay all day and eat lunch and dinner there and stay to the wee hours. Jn this respect there is nothing else like it in the world.
    I was at Sharks recently and I was told that the Kino has been closed.

  5. #41584
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Each country worldwide has a different format. Here are the ones I am familiar with with a few examples of where this is a good format. I can give recommended agencies and clubs if interested):

    1 Escort incall outcall of course.

    London, Montreal, Toronto, Tokyo.

    2 Bar w girls. Pay bar fine.

    Bangkok, Sao Paulo, Malaga.

    3 Bar w girls. No bar fine.

    Shanghai?

    4 Gogo w girls. Pay bar-fine.

    Moscow, Bangkok.

    5 Parade of Girls. One at a time intro.

    Barcelona?

    6 Fishbowl.

    Bangkok?

    7 FKK / Terma.

    Frankfurt, Rio.

    Of these the FKK is rather unique, with a Terma being the next closest thing. Tho there is some variance, in an FKK there is a bar and restaurant area and a sauna and often gardens and a pool and Kino at the nicer ones like Oase and Sharks. The guys may not wear street clothes. You can choose a towel or a robe. The girls are generally fully nude. Onsite rooms 50 a half hour for the basics and some upsell from there. It is not a one and done affair. Although the most I've ever had time for was a four shot evening, some guys stay all day and eat lunch and dinner there and stay to the wee hours. Jn this respect there is nothing else like it in the world.
    You forgot the Macau's sauna experience.

    Close the a German FKK but to a far higher level of services of any kind. More pricey of course.

  6. #41583

    I miss annies. Bikini girls

    I really miss Annies massage as it was my first massage in Bangkok like 20+ years ago but also because it was on the few day massage places that display girls in Bikinis so you can see exactly what you are getting.

    Does anyone care to share any current medium sized massage places that display girls in Bikinis rather than the standard dress which can hide a lot baby damage etc. ?

  7. #41582
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Each country worldwide has a different format. Here are the ones I am familiar with with a few examples of where this is a good format. I can give recommended agencies and clubs if interested.
    ISG mangled my post a bit. The ones with question marks were supposed to be ones of known quantity buy asking about others.

    Shanghai has great bar takeout at Manhattan Bar.

    Barcelona has great girl parade at Felinas.

    Bangkok has great fishbowl at Poseidon.

    The question mark was for if others know of countries where this format is used to great success?

  8. #41581
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    I have 5 months left before I hit Bangkok for a 6 month trip. You guys are depressing me. Is there no hope for an old guy who just needs a quickie here and there. Maybe I'll get a condo near Lumpini LOL.
    I can't speak for wild and crazy (real) porn romps since they have never been my thing. But I am getting much better conventional sexual encounters in Bangkok now than I did 25 years ago in the early/mid 1990's. I'm talking about ordinary BBFS and BBBJ+CIM (often + Swallow) kind of sex. And most of that is with go-go girls, freelancers and dating site girls, about 20% of which are also straight up freelancers and the rest regular girls claiming to look for Mr. Right.

    Then again, that era was a particularly bad one for mongering in Thailand because it was the height of the HIV/Condom Condom Condom hysteria. Not so much anymore. And I can't compare my experiences today with those of 10 years ago because I didn't monger here 10 years ago.

    But these days I am getting tons more of what I am into from younger and better looking girls than I got back then. I credit much of that improvement to two factors; the aforementioned tempering of the HIV/Condom hysteria (not missing entirely, just less so) and the advent of smartphones with the Line app and other means of inspiring girls to have sex with me, and good sex, in ways other than what usually transpires in a bar or shop.

  9. #41580

    Bangkok vs FKK.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Being not too familiar with FKKs, I'm keenly interested in such a comparison and hearing exactly what the differences are. And I can't be the only guy here with the same interest.
    Each country worldwide has a different format. Here are the ones I am familiar with with a few examples of where this is a good format. I can give recommended agencies and clubs if interested):

    1 Escort incall outcall of course.

    London, Montreal, Toronto, Tokyo.

    2 Bar w girls. Pay bar fine.

    Bangkok, Sao Paulo, Malaga.

    3 Bar w girls. No bar fine.

    Shanghai?

    4 Gogo w girls. Pay bar-fine.

    Moscow, Bangkok.

    5 Parade of Girls. One at a time intro.

    Barcelona?

    6 Fishbowl.

    Bangkok?

    7 FKK / Terma.

    Frankfurt, Rio.

    Of these the FKK is rather unique, with a Terma being the next closest thing. Tho there is some variance, in an FKK there is a bar and restaurant area and a sauna and often gardens and a pool and Kino at the nicer ones like Oase and Sharks. The guys may not wear street clothes. You can choose a towel or a robe. The girls are generally fully nude. Onsite rooms 50 a half hour for the basics and some upsell from there. It is not a one and done affair. Although the most I've ever had time for was a four shot evening, some guys stay all day and eat lunch and dinner there and stay to the wee hours. Jn this respect there is nothing else like it in the world.

  10. #41579
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Don't be put off by all the jaded comments you find on forums like this. Seems the complainers always outnumber the advocates. There is PLENTY of fine young pussy available at reasinable prices. Go in positive and non-transactional and you will have a good share of excellent experiences!
    LOL I know I was being a bit facetious. I have been reading the same complaints for almost 20 years.

    Starting on the old Nanaplaza Board and I have always had a good time anyway. My idea of a hot chick and a fun fuck differs from yours and I'm sure there is something for everybody.

    Now I must say that there is quality pussy in an FKK. I had a great time in The FKK near Bad Hamburg outside Frankfurt, not so much in one near the French Border. But hey, pussy is pussy. And to me, after a long day of doing everyday stuff like shopping and such like, a quick stop at the BJ bar before a cocktail by myself on my balcony and an early bedtime is priceless! I don't pay them for sex I pay them to leave.

  11. #41578
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    I would say comparing FKK to destinations like Bangkok or Jakarta is like comparing apples to oranges. Each place has its pluses and minuses.
    Being not too familiar with FKKs, I'm keenly interested in such a comparison and hearing exactly what the differences are. And I can't be the only guy here with the same interest.

  12. #41577

    Do not despair.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    I have 5 months left before I hit Bangkok for a 6 month trip. You guys are depressing me. Is there no hope for an old guy who just needs a quickie here and there. Maybe I'll get a condo near Lumpini LOL.
    Don't be put off by all the jaded comments you find on forums like this. Seems the complainers always outnumber the advocates. There is PLENTY of fine young pussy available at reasinable prices. Go in positive and non-transactional and you will have a good share of excellent experiences!

  13. #41576
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    I would say comparing FKK to destinations like Bangkok or Jakarta is like comparing apples to oranges. Each place has its pluses and minuses. I am pretty sure having intimate knowledge of the local culture and the ability to converse in local languages like Thai or German would help tremendously in one's own experience.

    I hope that you have fun while you are there Uncle V, I think the weather should be nice enough over there by now.
    Thanks so much for he kind wishes.

    Of course you are right about apples and oranges and being a local always puts you at an advantage. I imagine this is especially true in Germany,.

    But if asked to choose between the two I am just presenting the rationale hat goes through my head as someone that is not a local in either location and does nto speak the language.

  14. #41575
    Quote Originally Posted by UncleVolodya  [View Original Post]
    I am not as experienced in FKKs as BB but I agree completely.

    Unless you really take the top shelf girls the FKK experience is comparable to finding a gem on Soi 6. But probably not even as good as almost all Soi 6 girls do BBJ, DFK (and for many even CIM) standard. You have to pay extra for these nowadays in many FKKs. Moreover, Soi 6 is much cheaper as there is no entrance fee (50-70 Euro) and a sessions only sets you back 40 Euro.

    FKKs were much better about 10 years ago when they were not dominated by Romanians and before the draconian laws. I remember some amazing sessions with hot young Czech, Slovak and even German girls. Passionate DFK and heavy petting while waiting for the room, real GFE experiences in the room, and many times much DFK and hanging out after.

    I am heading to Germany for work tomorrow and will do a visit to an FKK while there. I'd so much rather be heading to Patts right now.
    I would say comparing FKK to destinations like Bangkok or Jakarta is like comparing apples to oranges. Each place has its pluses and minuses. I am pretty sure having intimate knowledge of the local culture and the ability to converse in local languages like Thai or German would help tremendously in one's own experience.

    I hope that you have fun while you are there Uncle V, I think the weather should be nice enough over there by now.

  15. #41574
    Quote Originally Posted by BubbaBoy  [View Original Post]
    That is pretty standard at most Nana bars that I know of. Complaining to the manager is a complete waste of time, they are the ones that make that policy and ensure that it is enforced.
    The thing is, I wasn't hassled rudely like that in other gogo's like the Rainbows I went in, nor in many other gogo's throughout Thailand. And interesting the reaction this time compared to six years ago.

    I realize complaining to the manager is pretty much useless in general, but seeing as how so many people automatically ask guys whenever they have problems in a bar, "did you talk to manager," just wanted to cover my bases. He was about the worst I've come across in my years of mongering.

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