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  1. #40740

    Excellent advice-except.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianG  [View Original Post]
    For "special massage" go take a look in Phrom Phong (soi 22-24-24/1-26). Snow White, Mango, Cherry, etc.

    BJ Bar: Lo.Li.Tas (soi 8), Kasalong, Lollipop (soi 10), Som's Heaven (soi 14), Wood (soi 7/1), Star of Lights (Patpong).
    I think we should stop telling about "wood" (used to be best) but now by far the worst, no need to even talk about it, the costumer service is horrible, girls attitude flat out sucks, room flat out filthy, give 1000 be and no matter what girl you had never no change offered, what a shame could be a good set up again, but apparently their not interested in returning costumers, I even gave it a fair shot last trip and both times same same!

  2. #40739
    Quote Originally Posted by Appcer999  [View Original Post]
    Intend to try massage tomorrow, can anyone suggest any good one? Also I still want to try BJ bar, any recommendation?
    For "special massage" go take a look in Phrom Phong (soi 22-24-24/1-26). Snow White, Mango, Cherry, etc.

    BJ Bar: Lo.Li.Tas (soi 8), Kasalong, Lollipop (soi 10), Som's Heaven (soi 14), Wood (soi 7/1), Star of Lights (Patpong).

  3. #40738
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    I was in Bangkok for few days 7-10/2, company work so they paid for everything barring 'Fucks', I stayed at hotel aloft purely for its location. Has good bars Aussie nice & genuine massages and excellent restaurants and lovely karaoke music.

    Did pub hopping with local friends and drank a lot. Got a little tipsy so decided to look at climax late night. Just as I was stepping in saw 2 beauties indies outside. Confirmed services from 1 of the chicks, she was the better looking. Took her to my room on the 6th floor had a whirlpool on the deck. She liked it, cleaned herself up and I banged the shit out of her for the next few hours. Paid her about 4-4. 5 k for the session. She wanted to stay but I asked her to leave and confirmed her services for the next day. Told her to show up whenever I call her and she gladly did the following day. Next day her service levels were a notch higher. BBBJ, all positions, nice racks, smooth skin, no marks, could play with her ass but no anal allowed, of course DFK was on menu, overall rating 8. 5/10, looks 8. 5/10, service quality and GFE 8/10.

    Next day decided to try someone else so went to Levels, local nightclub of the hotel and excellent rock music. Ordered a bottle of whiskey with a local friend and saw many indies hovering around our table. It was a single malt one of those expensive ones. Chatted with a few chicks but asking was really high. Went for a walk and this girl bumped into me deliberately and we got talking. She asked me to take her, was nothing great just above average but a nice slim tight athletic figure. She was my last option so said no for the time being. Around1/1. 30 am went back to her and confirmed her services. Said no for BBBJ and I told her we will see. Deal at 3 k. Went into the room, she brushed and showered and I saw a great body. Face 6/10 but body was like 9/10. My favorite with her was 69 and doggie, fingered her ass, she resisted initially but gave in later. Pussy was relatively tight, I don't think many fancied her but she was a good choice in the end. Her pussy was wet like a swimming pool, she wanted a 3 some with her friend and asked me if I was up for it, her friend needed to make some money. I was in no mood / energy for it. Politely declined. 2 sessions at night, woke up hard on and another session in the morning before she left. Tipped her well, served her light BF with breads and juice and she left. Forgot to take her digits, what a bum I am.

    All in all a good weekend. Keep fucking and stay safe.
    Nice report on the FL discos scene. They are pretty rare on this board. I am happy to hear Climax is back in business. Is it still in the Ambassador hotel or have they moved?

  4. #40737
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    A few years ago I made a note that there are only 4 bars at Soi Cowboy that do NOT have those dreadful coyotes: Crazy House, Baccara, Shark and Suzie Wong.
    However this may not be totally up to date anymore and it also doesn't mean you won't be pestered to buy lady drinks.
    I have certainly managed to swing memorable or at least repeatable P4 P experiences in Soi Coyboy bars. But the dominant business model is very much what Appcer999 described; the soi is lined with scammer girls standing outside the bars that hired an agency to send them there to do nothing but make tourists think if they allow themselves to be dragged inside the bar and buy them Lady Drinks they might be able to take them away from the bar and have sex with them. Nope. That isn't what they were hired to do by the agency that employs them. Sure, everything and everyone has a price. Someone could come up with a number that all concerned would bow down and accept. But even then the girl does not fancy herself to be a hooker and the sex, if that's what it could be called, is likely to be dreadful.

    Meanwhile, as you say, there are genuine go-go dancer P4 P girls in some of the bars. But the newbie can waste a lot of time and money on the more tempting scams before he gets to the real thing.

    I just don't see that there is a Nana Plaza counterpart to that level of scam business model.

    And I think that in large part is because of the location of each area. Soi Cowboy is easily visible from the most heavily trafficked intersection in Bangkok, Sukhumvit and Asok, also where the Skytrain and the Subway intersect. It can be spotted from the bts Skytrain platform. Naturally, it will lure newbies, tourists and the curious like no other go-go bar location in the City. The dominant business model is to hustle and scam as many transient tourists as possible as quickly as possible with little chance of having to engage with a disgruntled return customer tomorrow.

    By contrast, you need to already know where Nana Plaza is in order to find it. You wouldn't stumble upon it on your way from one shopping mall to another. Yes, if you are sitting on a particular side of a bts train car as it passes Soi 4 at night, you might catch a glimpse of a few neon lit bars over there and walk back from the next station to check it out. But it is not a collection of bars that can count on catering to the one-time-only tourist who is practically asking to be fleeced as he passes through once. Nana Plaza relies much more on repeat customers in the know about Bkk's P4 P industry and expat customers. They can't get away with the scams Soi Coyboy does and stay in business long.

    Late Edit: btw, the fact that there are many more freelancers strolling around the Nana Plaza area is more evidence that it is an area that caters more to the expat or experienced returning customer. Newbie tourists are far less likely to walk off with a freelancer they've met in the streets of Bkk to check into a short time room or back to their hotel room. But more experienced customers of Bkk's P4P scene are far more comfortable with the idea.

  5. #40736

    Bangkok Trip next week help needed.

    Hi guys,

    Hope you all are doing good, I am an Indian & would be travelling to Bangkok for the first time the sole purpose of my trip is mongering so would appreciate help from the seasoned mongers on where I can find good girls & what would be the prices by the way I have booked my hotel on Sukhumvit Soi 11 so Nana plaza & soi cowboy are close to me & also please advise which are the best night clubs in this area to pick up freelancers.

    Thanks.

    Happy mongering,

    DannyBoy20.

  6. #40735

    Soi Cowboy bars without coyotes

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Second, you went to the wrong go-go bar area if you are trying to avoid bait-and-switch scams from non-barfinable Coyotes and hardcore Lady Drink only hustlers.
    A few years ago I made a note that there are only 4 bars at Soi Cowboy that do NOT have those dreadful coyotes: Crazy House, Baccara, Shark and Suzie Wong.
    However this may not be totally up to date anymore and it also doesn't mean you won't be pestered to buy lady drinks.

  7. #40734
    Quote Originally Posted by TommySnap  [View Original Post]
    Hi.

    Unavoidablely, during my next visit to BKK, I'll be staying in Bang na for 3 days. Did RTFF / search but can't find much. Anyone got any info on potential action in the area?

    Getting a cab into town probably won't be an option.
    Rao Lounge at crossing Srinakarin Road and Chaloen Phrakiat. A thai style gentlemens club, so you better speak thai, http://www.raolounge.com.

    Savannah Massage at Udom Suk 7, great B2 B massage, but pricy especially if you want to get FS, http://savannamassagebangkok.com/.

    Aree Massage 2 at Suphaphong 3 Alley Lane 8 near Seacon Square and Srinakarin Soi 40, thai style B2 B, 1200 and 1600 THB, FS negiotiable for a surcharge.

  8. #40733

    Soi cowboy-Avoid The Arab's bars

    Quote Originally Posted by Appcer999  [View Original Post]
    Bangkok is my destination after Pattaya and I must say that I'm very disappointed.

    That is my first night so I decided give Soi cowboy a go. The outside atmosphere was very exciting indeed with a lot of nice girl trying to catch customer attention. I want to try BJ bar so I enter aftershock there are like 7-8 farang guy already inside and it seem that no one really care about the girls but enjoy their drink. I was approached by 2 virl, one "weak" average and one's fat and ugly. After a bit chit chat, they quickly ask for lady drink which I declined because they just not worth it no suggestion about BJ. Am I doing it wrong?
    A man often called "The Arab" owns a number of bars on Soi Cowboy. If you avoid his bars you will greatly increase the odds of having a good time at Soi Cowboy. He owns Deja Vu, Kiss, Midnite, Rio, Sahara, Rawhide, Spice Girls, and possibly more. These Soi Cowboy bars should be avoided.

  9. #40732
    Quote Originally Posted by Appcer999  [View Original Post]
    Anyway I will try Poisedon massage today and FR later.
    Lemme give you a heads up. A few pages back, on this thread, there is a detailed FR of the poor experience of a fellow ISGer at Poseidon not too long ago. You might wanna reconsider your choice of soapy after going through that. Anyhow, good luck out there.

  10. #40731

    Independent search.

    Hi everyone,

    Do you know maybe a site where I can find independent women, but with filter option, like price range, height, and with reviews of people for that women (but real reviews)?

  11. #40730
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    First of all, you went to the wrong place to get a blowjob bar experience. Aftershock? Try Kasalong Bar (day or night), L0litas (day or night), Som's Haven, even Wood Bar would be a better choice than any go-go/supposed BJ bar in the city.

    Second, you went to the wrong go-go bar area if you are trying to avoid bait-and-switch scams from non-barfinable Coyotes and hardcore Lady Drink only hustlers. Skip Soi Cowboy unless the above is your thing and head to Nana Plaza tonight instead. Yes, there are exceptions, I am just talking about the difference between each area's general business model.
    I personally like Afterskool for blowjobs but let me caveat this. I stay around that area and also like to eat / drink early on in the regular bars around there. I've also been going to Afterskool for many years so they know me and I enjoy the naughty corner. This is not for everyone and for newbies to BKK looking for a BJ then the other bars you mentioned are a better option.

    I don't particularily like Nana plaza that much but I do go down there for a drink occasionally and for a bit of a look. I think there are far more FL's around there if that's your thing.

    A lot of this comes down to personal preferences and where you feel more comfortable. 20 years ago my main hangout was Patpong and the Kangaroo club but I've only been to Patpong a couple of times in recent years. Last time I was there I noticed the Irish pub had good. I used to eat there occasionally if I was in the area, good food.

  12. #40729
    Quote Originally Posted by Appcer999  [View Original Post]
    Bangkok is my destination after Pattaya and I must say that I'm very disappointed.

    That is my first night so I decided give Soi cowboy a go. The outside atmosphere was very exciting indeed with a lot of nice girl trying to catch customer attention. I want to try BJ bar so I enter aftershock there are like 7-8 farang guy already inside and it seem that no one really care about the girls but enjoy their drink. I was approached by 2 virl, one "weak" average and one's fat and ugly. After a bit chit chat, they quickly ask for lady drink which I declined because they just not worth it no suggestion about BJ. Am I doing it wrong?

    Then I was pull over by a girl to an Agogo name Dejavu. It's weekend and the bar have like 5 customer in total, included me. Again 2 girl approached at once and soon asked for lady drink, I bought 2 which in the end turn out to be more than 500 baht. I left when they try to sell me another lady drink round. I also forced to gave tips.

    In sum, I'm not a cheap person but I really hate it when people trying to sell sevice by pressuring customer. From this aspect, Pattaya is doing a lot better than Bkk where I can lay back and choose what I want.

    Intend to try massage tomorrow, can anyone suggest any good one? Also I still want to try BJ bar, any recommendation?
    First of all, you went to the wrong place to get a blowjob bar experience. Aftershock? Try Kasalong Bar (day or night), L0litas (day or night), Som's Haven, even Wood Bar would be a better choice than any go-go/supposed BJ bar in the city.

    Second, you went to the wrong go-go bar area if you are trying to avoid bait-and-switch scams from non-barfinable Coyotes and hardcore Lady Drink only hustlers. Skip Soi Cowboy unless the above is your thing and head to Nana Plaza tonight instead. Yes, there are exceptions, I am just talking about the difference between each area's general business model.

    My worst exoeriences with either of my suggested alternatives is still better than my best experiences in Pattaya over the past 5 years and a half dozen or more trips to Pattaya.

  13. #40728
    Rather unexpectedly a cute Thai airways flight attendant invited me down to Pattaya, but then told me it's good only during the day. Not at night. If only she knew. I've never been and done all my activities in Bangkok. Sounds interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobJones  [View Original Post]
    I too was disappointed with Bangkok after visiting Pattaya first. I think the major difference is that Pattaya is so easy to get around, with better pricing on drinks and a better feel about it. Our next trip will be all in Pattaya. Interesting enough Soi Cowboy didn't meet my expectations at all.

  14. #40727
    Quote Originally Posted by RobJones  [View Original Post]
    I too was disappointed with Bangkok after visiting Pattaya first. I think the major difference is that Pattaya is so easy to get around, with better pricing on drinks and a better feel about it. Our next trip will be all in Pattaya. Interesting enough Soi Cowboy didn't meet my expectations at all.
    Yes Pattaya is way better than Bangkok, the girl in Bangkok only focus on make you buy them drink as much as possible and they force tip.

    Anyway I will try Poisedon massage today and FR later.

  15. #40726
    Quote Originally Posted by Appcer999  [View Original Post]
    Bangkok is my destination after Pattaya and I must say that I'm very disappointed.

    That is my first night so I decided give Soi cowboy a go. The outside atmosphere was very exciting indeed with a lot of nice girl trying to catch customer attention. I want to try BJ bar so I enter aftershock there are like 7-8 farang guy already inside and it seem that no one really care about the girls but enjoy their drink. I was approached by 2 virl, one "weak" average and one's fat and ugly. After a bit chit chat, they quickly ask for lady drink which I declined because they just not worth it no suggestion about BJ. Am I doing it wrong?

    Then I was pull over by a girl to an Agogo name Dejavu. It's weekend and the bar have like 5 customer in total, included me. Again 2 girl approached at once and soon asked for lady drink, I bought 2 which in the end turn out to be more than 500 baht. I left when they try to sell me another lady drink round. I also forced to gave tips.

    In sum, I'm not a cheap person but I really hate it when people trying to sell sevice by pressuring customer. From this aspect, Pattaya is doing a lot better than Bkk where I can lay back and choose what I want.

    Intend to try massage tomorrow, can anyone suggest any good one? Also I still want to try BJ bar, any recommendation?
    I too was disappointed with Bangkok after visiting Pattaya first. I think the major difference is that Pattaya is so easy to get around, with better pricing on drinks and a better feel about it. Our next trip will be all in Pattaya. Interesting enough Soi Cowboy didn't meet my expectations at all.

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