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  1. #37880
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolvenvacht  [View Original Post]
    So why not first spend a few days in Bangkok and then go to Pattaya to finish the last few days?

    I like Annies, but YMMV. Check the Bangkok massage threads. As to timing; all times and all days.

    I like Citadines, but I use Citadines 23 which is quiet and very close to Soi Cowboy. As long as you book a room for 2 they don't mind if your companion changes every time.

    I usually walk that distance. Walking is probably faster than taking a taxi as that road is always jammed. I was never scammed by a taxi driver. Just insist he uses the taxi-meter and you'll be OK.

    From Nana to Soi Cowboy you can also use the Skytrain (BTS).
    Have to disagree on a few things. Try Pattaya early either straight away or after just one or two nights in Bangkok. If you don't like Pattaya, come back to Bangkok. If you love Pattaya, stay there. Don't book everything too far in advance.

    For Soapies in general, I would say 6. 30 PM or 7. 00 PM is best. Annies is best after 5 PM.

    I doubt you will choose Citadines Soi 23. I hated it. I recall Tansak panning it and I tried it anyway. Hard beds and unhelpful staff poor breakfast options. He was right. My GF did not like it either (a few years back now). Plenty of better options in the area. Perhaps okay If you love a hard bed. I don't recall any other guys suggesting Citadines 23, possibly the worst of the Citadines Hotels. I thought nearby Admiral Premier was easily superior or Mermaid, or Silq Soi 19, or Fx Soi 21. So many other options.Still to be fair, Booking.com gives Citadines 23 an 8.3 very Good rating. Surprises me. Maybe they improved, but I bet the beds are still hard.

    If don't want to walk from Nana to Cowboy, take a motorcycle for 60 Baht (or Taxi from Suk Soi 5). Taxi from Nana Plaza not a great option. Sky train would be silly, since you have too much walking to get to and from skytrain anyway, plus wait for train and could be crowded. I take a motorcycle regularly since it is so quick, even though 60 Baht is a slight ripoff price. Sometimes walk as takes only 15 minutes. Taxi should take much longer than 15 minutes if taken from Nana Plaza, simply because it cannot turn right into Sukhumvit. Motorcycle is a far better option.

  2. #37879
    Quote Originally Posted by Tinny2000  [View Original Post]
    Will go to Thai for about 9 days.

    1) not sure how to split between Bangkok and Pattaya for 9 days.

    Want to tour around in the day and enjoy nightlife at night.

    Which one has more selections (of girls) and more fun?
    Without any doubt, Pattaya has more girls. But that is not saying much. Even I you limit yourself to a few bars in Bangkok only you will already be provided with enough choice to last your whole 9 days and still be spoilt for choice.

    Which one is more fun? That we cannot answer. For pure mongering fun, go to Pattaya. If you want to mix P4P with other stuff, go to Bangkok. Best chioice is to mix both places. It is only a few hours driving from Bangkok to Pattaya. So why not first spend a few days in Bangkok and then go to Pattaya to finish the last few days?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinny2000  [View Original Post]
    2) soapy massage parlor. Which one would you recommend?

    When is the best time to go (early evening? Late afternoon? Sunday, or Thur. Etc.)?
    I like Annies, but YMMV. Check the Bangkok massage threads. As to timing; all times and all days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinny2000  [View Original Post]
    3) Nana plaza vs. Soi Cowboy, which one better? Any bars do you recommend?
    Again, YMMV, but I prefer Soi Cowboy. I like Suzie Wong gogo club. I don't like Baccara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinny2000  [View Original Post]
    Generally, what is the price (bar fine, LT, ST)?
    Barfine was 600 baht last time I was there (October 2016). LT was between 3500 and 4000 baht then in Suzie Wong. I never take ST, so I don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinny2000  [View Original Post]
    4) Is there an option like love motel / hotel by hour?
    Yes, the girls will know where. I never used these hotels though. Much more convenient to bring her to your hotel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinny2000  [View Original Post]
    The following one seems to be guest friendly. I am interested in it since it is away from the busy Suk st and I hope I can have a good sleep at night.

    The joiner policy: is it 1 guest / night or 1 guest / stay (maybe the former)?

    Citadines Sukhumvit 8 Bangkok.
    I like Citadines, but I use Citadines 23 which is quiet and very close to Soi Cowboy. As long as you book a room for 2 they don't mind if your companion changes every time.

    Don't go to Nana Hotel! It is overpiced and bad quality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinny2000  [View Original Post]

    5) I read a lot of scams about the Thai Taxi drivers. Generally how much do you pay from Nana / Cowboy to hotel (less than 1 mi)
    I usually walk that distance. Walking is probably faster than taking a taxi as that road is always jammed. I was never scammed by a taxi driver. Just insist he uses the taxi-meter and you'll be OK.

    From Nana to Soi Cowboy you can also use the Skytrain (BTS).

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinny2000  [View Original Post]
    3) For me, first time to Thai, but more experience with Tijuana, MX. Are they similar?

    Thanks a lot!
    I have never been to Mexico, so I don't know.

  3. #37878
    Quote Originally Posted by Biggusdickus  [View Original Post]
    Recently, I went to one of nana place's popular bars and had a few cokes. I was not really into barfining, and obviously I was such a bad customer that I even got angry glances from a male (waiter every fifteen minutes, when I hadn't finished my coke yet. When I was on the verge of leaving I noticed a girl being fondled and kissed on the back bench beside me. The guy had his hands everywhere, and she let him explore her body quite freely. This and her rather small but well shaped tits caught my attention, and I started to wish the girl was sitting on my lap instead of his. The girl and me even exchanged a few glances, and I repeatedly smiled and nodded at her, making it obvious that I wanted to share her company. But their interaction was so intense that I was sure they would be leaving together any minute. Alas, I was wrong, the guy paid and left. My neighbour to my right looked as if he had liked what he had seen, too, so I made haste signalling to the girl to come over. I always like to invite girls of which I already know they are not shy.

    When she arrived she took her place on my knees, pressing her body against mine and my hands against her naked boobs. She started moving on me, and we started caressing and kissing each other. A few tequilas were ordered, and a few good old body shots followed. Her nipples seemed to like the attention I paid them. Soon our tongues were entwined, and when not engaged in friendly fighting they went exploring each others necks and ears. The action got both of us quite excited, and I had to open the zipper of my shorts to give my little friend some space to breathe. Soon her index finger started to circle around the eye of my one eyed trouser snake, then she grabbed my shaft fully in her hand. I got my revenge by checking if her juices had started to flow already, and she let me explore her fountain very thoroughly. I opened the zipper of my shorts even more and managed to put my little friend between her slip and the skin beneath it. She didn't realize what I had done at first but when she did, she burst out in laughter and couldn't stop it. By that time I was so horny that I lost the last bit of my usual inhibitions, probably also thanks to several gin tonics and all the body shots that I continued to lick from her breasts and nipples. All I could think of was that I wanted to get inside her. Since she was sitting with her back to me I had to push and press my little friend forward until its tip entered the gate to her paradise. To my surprise she didn't resist my attack but rather helped me by slightly lifting herself a bit off my lap, thus giving me better access and inviting me in. She then went on bouncing up and down on me, the way she and other girls had done and often do on the closed trousers of many a customer. Sometimes we went slow, sometimes we went on it more energetically, and at the same time I could watch the shows on the stage in front of me while enjoying our own private amusement. Of course the waitress noticed what was going on, and her silence had to be bought with a few more drinks. Over the following two hours my girl left me a few times for visits to the toilet but I always managed to get back in when she returned. Finally I pulled out and came on her back, covered and protected from view by my own shirt.

    She didn't even ask me to barfine her after the deed was done because she probably guessed that I would need some time to recharge. So I got all that fun for the price of a few drinks for her and our waitress. My best evening in a nana bar ever turned out to be one of the cheapest there, too. It goes without saying that I came back the next night and rewarded her (and treated myself) by paying her barfine.

    Unfortunately I didn't ask for her phone number but I found her pic on the website of the bar. Hopefully it will help me to find her again on my next trip to Bangkok!
    Wow, great story. I can see it now, many will be there looking for her.

  4. #37877

    Unexpected experience in a nana bar

    Recently, I went to one of nana place's popular bars and had a few cokes. I was not really into barfining, and obviously I was such a bad customer that I even got angry glances from a male (waiter every fifteen minutes, when I hadn't finished my coke yet. When I was on the verge of leaving I noticed a girl being fondled and kissed on the back bench beside me. The guy had his hands everywhere, and she let him explore her body quite freely. This and her rather small but well shaped tits caught my attention, and I started to wish the girl was sitting on my lap instead of his. The girl and me even exchanged a few glances, and I repeatedly smiled and nodded at her, making it obvious that I wanted to share her company. But their interaction was so intense that I was sure they would be leaving together any minute. Alas, I was wrong, the guy paid and left. My neighbour to my right looked as if he had liked what he had seen, too, so I made haste signalling to the girl to come over. I always like to invite girls of which I already know they are not shy.

    When she arrived she took her place on my knees, pressing her body against mine and my hands against her naked boobs. She started moving on me, and we started caressing and kissing each other. A few tequilas were ordered, and a few good old body shots followed. Her nipples seemed to like the attention I paid them. Soon our tongues were entwined, and when not engaged in friendly fighting they went exploring each others necks and ears. The action got both of us quite excited, and I had to open the zipper of my shorts to give my little friend some space to breathe. Soon her index finger started to circle around the eye of my one eyed trouser snake, then she grabbed my shaft fully in her hand. I got my revenge by checking if her juices had started to flow already, and she let me explore her fountain very thoroughly. I opened the zipper of my shorts even more and managed to put my little friend between her slip and the skin beneath it. She didn't realize what I had done at first but when she did, she burst out in laughter and couldn't stop it. By that time I was so horny that I lost the last bit of my usual inhibitions, probably also thanks to several gin tonics and all the body shots that I continued to lick from her breasts and nipples. All I could think of was that I wanted to get inside her. Since she was sitting with her back to me I had to push and press my little friend forward until its tip entered the gate to her paradise. To my surprise she didn't resist my attack but rather helped me by slightly lifting herself a bit off my lap, thus giving me better access and inviting me in. She then went on bouncing up and down on me, the way she and other girls had done and often do on the closed trousers of many a customer. Sometimes we went slow, sometimes we went on it more energetically, and at the same time I could watch the shows on the stage in front of me while enjoying our own private amusement. Of course the waitress noticed what was going on, and her silence had to be bought with a few more drinks. Over the following two hours my girl left me a few times for visits to the toilet but I always managed to get back in when she returned. Finally I pulled out and came on her back, covered and protected from view by my own shirt.

    She didn't even ask me to barfine her after the deed was done because she probably guessed that I would need some time to recharge. So I got all that fun for the price of a few drinks for her and our waitress. My best evening in a nana bar ever turned out to be one of the cheapest there, too. It goes without saying that I came back the next night and rewarded her (and treated myself) by paying her barfine.

    Unfortunately I didn't ask for her phone number but I found her pic on the website of the bar. Hopefully it will help me to find her again on my next trip to Bangkok!

  5. #37876
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Citadines is way off the beaten path, I wouldn't stay there, too far to walk. I'd recommend Nana hotel or Majestic suites, you can walk to nana in under a minute with either of those two places. If you go to Pattaya I'd recommend Baywalk Residence for its location. If I only had 9 days I'd pick one area and stick with it, too much to see and do in both cities.
    There is a good chance Nana Hotel and Majestic Suites are sold out.

    Other recommendations:

    Petal's Inn Soi 4 1450 Baht.

    Double One Soi 11 1500 Baht.

    On8 at nana BTS approx. 2000 Baht or slightly less.

    Citadines 8 is about 1750 Baht. It's only about 500 m to Nana BTS, although 1 km to Nana Plaza, so Breadman is no doubt concentrating on that.

    Personally I prefer not to be at Nana Hotel with hookers and ladyboys outside the hotel all evening.

  6. #37875
    Quote Originally Posted by Tinny2000  [View Original Post]
    1) not sure how to split between Bangkok and Pattaya for 9 days.

    Citadines Sukhumvit 8 Bangkok.

    !
    Citadines is way off the beaten path, I wouldn't stay there, too far to walk. I'd recommend Nana hotel or Majestic suites, you can walk to nana in under a minute with either of those two places. If you go to Pattaya I'd recommend Baywalk Residence for its location. If I only had 9 days I'd pick one area and stick with it, too much to see and do in both cities.

  7. #37874
    Quote Originally Posted by Tinny2000  [View Original Post]
    Will go to Thai for about 9 days.
    No one can say what is best for you. Be flexible and try everything.

    Many of your questions have been answered before. E. g. Short Time Hotels. If you don't know the price use a taxi on the meter. Do not talk to taxi drivers that approach you on foot (I ignore them completely), just wave to a taxi that is driving past on the move, and tell him your hotel. If he says yes, then can get in. If he says 200 baht, then just wave him on. Once a taxi driver gets out of his car, he is automatically marked as "to be avoided" unless it is to stow your luggage. Do not tell them where you are going. It's only your business. Do not argue with them. Be silent, be resolute. Assume they are madmen not worth giving the time of day to.

    Disobey this rule and you will get ripped off, for certain. Maybe it's better to learn from mistakes. Even Thai people getting off a bus at the bus terminal get ripped off by taxi drivers approaching them on foot. You are in a position of weakness to bargain with anyone unless you are certain of the correct price. I go by meter unless I know the price. I also watch Google Maps to ensure that driver is selecting a reasonable route without circumnavigating the entire Bangkok. Google Maps knows alternative routes.

    If really desperate, call a taxi company or use one of the Taxi Apps on smartphone. I don't bother myself, certainly not for short distances. Catching a taxi outside the Nana Plaza is not a good place. They cannot turn right into Sukhumvit road. Better to cross Sukhumvit road by foot first, if heading East.

  8. #37873
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    Admin has deleted the thread in the user blog section that this post was linked to for reasons I can't comprehend. I'm not charging any fee myself, it will just be a group of guys going out to Merci. I have checked the posting guidelines and no rule was broken however, I must respect Jackson's wishes as it is his website. Please feel free to PM me for details but there will be no thread to post suggestions for the event in. Just a quick disclaimer. PMs can only be sent by Senior members or regular members with a paid subscription. However this event is open to Senior members only. Happy mongering to all.

    Oh, if this post gets deleted, then I will not be posting again about the event but instead will send out a few invites to fill any remaining spots by PM to Senior members.
    Perhaps it was seen as trying to set up a little exclusive forum within a forum. The problem was asking guys not to post there, except when meeting special criteria, IMHO.

    I have been in trouble for supposedly discouraging other posters from making a post, where I merely observed that the English was so bad, it came incomprehensible, and objective of the post could not be discerned as being relevant to the thread in any way whatsoever. Of course I knew full well the persons concerned would not be discouraged from posting at all. I just wanted them to use understandable simple sentences.

    However I learned that supposedly trying to prevent someone from posting was a major sin, no matter how incomprehensible their post may be.

  9. #37872
    Quote Originally Posted by BionicMan  [View Original Post]
    He admits "having not picked up much". LOL.
    It's strange that pricing is one of his questions and we were just discussing ST and LT pricing. He didn't even need to look past the 1st page LOL.

  10. #37871
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    You obviously have not read.
    He admits "having not picked up much". LOL.

  11. #37870
    Admin has deleted the thread in the user blog section that this post was linked to for reasons I can't comprehend. I'm not charging any fee myself, it will just be a group of guys going out to Merci. I have checked the posting guidelines and no rule was broken however, I must respect Jackson's wishes as it is his website. Please feel free to PM me for details but there will be no thread to post suggestions for the event in. Just a quick disclaimer. PMs can only be sent by Senior members or regular members with a paid subscription. However this event is open to Senior members only. Happy mongering to all.

    Oh, if this post gets deleted, then I will not be posting again about the event but instead will send out a few invites to fill any remaining spots by PM to Senior members.
    Last edited by Admin3; Yesterday at 21:17.

  12. #37869

    Ask for suggestions

    Will go to Thai for about 9 days.

    1) not sure how to split between Bangkok and Pattaya for 9 days.

    Want to tour around in the day and enjoy nightlife at night.

    Which one has more selections (of girls) and more fun?

    2) soapy massage parlor. Which one would you recommend?

    When is the best time to go (early evening? Late afternoon? Sunday, or Thur. Etc.)?

    3) Nana plaza vs. Soi Cowboy, which one better? Any bars do you recommend?

    Generally, what is the price (bar fine, LT, ST)?

    4) Is there an option like love motel / hotel by hour?

    The following one seems to be guest friendly. I am interested in it since it is away from the busy Suk st and I hope I can have a good sleep at night.

    The joiner policy: is it 1 guest / night or 1 guest / stay (maybe the former)?

    Citadines Sukhumvit 8 Bangkok.

    5) I read a lot of scams about the Thai Taxi drivers. Generally how much do you pay from Nana / Cowboy to hotel (less than 1 mi)?

    For me, first time to Thai, but more experience with Tijuana, MX. Are they similar?

    Thanks a lot!

  13. #37868
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    You know, the ones we used to say we were tied to emotionally and what a relief it was to partake of P4 P because "We pay the girls to leave. " Ah, the good ol' days.

    I suspect a lot of the new "ST only" girls are in the same boat as I am (we are). They have so many Line contacts to go visit in order to keep all the dishes spinning, they must double and triple book.
    In the good old days, I had paid this girl Bua to leave. I had made the mistake of treating her too good, for a very low class girl, for more than one day. I was bored with her, so the next night I got a girl from somewhere else and new girl was staying with me till morning. In the morning, there is a knock on my door. Bua has showed up (with tears). I am not going to answer the door and let Bua come in since there is another girl in my bed. Whoops, time to change Hotels, and no more visits for Bua. Bua had a good body, good tits, average face, and did BB too easily.

    So there are benefits to girls messaging first. LOL I probably have far too few girls pestering me for sex. I can ignore the messages if necessary. Some girls suggest a meeting, and then don't go through with it, so yes you have to suspect they have lots of alternative things to choose from at the moment. One girl said that I did not answer her message immediately (I answered 12 minutes later) so she invited her mother over instead for Songkran (yeh right). Some girls keep on saying tomorrow. I can play the tomorrow game too. You get a feel quickly for which girls are reliable.

  14. #37867
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]

    It was very different 25 years ago, when bargirls always went with you for the whole night, and sometimes were still there at midday. Hence we used to have the expression "We pay the girls to leave".
    It is still like that many times in Cambodia. Especially in Sihanoukville. 10 dollar BF and 30 dollar to the girl. Like in Thailand before.

  15. #37866
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    It was very different 25 years ago, when bargirls always went with you for the whole night, and sometimes were still there at midday. Hence we used to have the expression "We pay the girls to leave". Sometimes we were eager to get rid of them so we could go do something else.
    I think we need to reassess that expression now that the scene is so altered by the advent of smartphones, Line and so on. Once I have exchanged Line IDs with a P4 P girl there doesn't seem to be such a thing as "leave" exactly. LOL. "Leave" emotionally, that is. Maybe this is more particular to those of us who live here.

    Even if our first outing is a simple ST she is within the hour wishing me a "good night, sweet dreams, miss you!" with a half-dozen stickers on Line. More often than not by midday the next day she is already pestering me for another meeting (which I might very well agree to), continues the pestering on a daily and nightly basis and so it goes for weeks or months. Before smartphones and Line, I never had this much post-sex attention and pestering from a REAL girlfriend. You know, the ones we used to say we were tied to emotionally and what a relief it was to partake of P4 P because "We pay the girls to leave. " Ah, the good ol' days.

    I suspect a lot of the new "ST only" girls are in the same boat as I am (we are). They have so many Line contacts to go visit in order to keep all the dishes spinning, they must double and triple book. By the time you have emerged from the post-coitus / post-ST shower, she has fielded 10 invites from interested punters looking to see her in the next hour. Which is fine with me since I (we) have likely been fielding as many pleas from P4 P girls, dating site girls, shop girls and waitresses to come over for the night and now I am free to say, "Sure, come on over. ".

    I know this doesn't address the cost factor. But in a way it does when you live here since, again thanks to smartphones and Line, there are always several girls who cycle through who aren't P4 P directly and actually cost very little.

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