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  1. #39750
    Quote Originally Posted by CallSignPapa  [View Original Post]
    It's a good point, well made.

    Was in BKK last week staying a stone's throw from Cowboy (which is usually my favourite haunt) but was actually tempted to the Nana side. Had one very fine experience with a girl from the club that used to be called "Bubbles" but has been renamed. Had been having a very pleasant time at a high table having my dick stroked by a very friendly and only half drunk spinner. It became clear that we had the same idea about what constituted a good time and we agreed 2000. I think the BF was 600. Off we went to the ST hotel literally on the same floor of the plaza, where I paid 300 for a room, towels and a condom (didn't use it).

    She was very fun, really into it and after 30 minutes of going at it we collapsed in a heap. Think her number was 11, and her name was Nam (Was also quite lazy during work appointments and had a few different girls visit me at my hotel in the afternoons. Met then on Badoo (the location search is a godsend). Two were amazing (one thai, one pinay), 1 was a dud. All three involved a nice long massage followed by a bumping of uglies. The dud (who used a false photo) got 1500, the other 2000 and the both stayed two hours. The thai girl came back from a second appointment where we skipped the massage and went straight to the fun.
    We are back in business gents! And it takes a PH regular (relatively) to show us the way.

    Great summary report. Thank you.

  2. #39749
    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    Meanwhile, is anyone getting any sex in BKK?
    It's a good point, well made.

    Was in BKK last week staying a stone's throw from Cowboy (which is usually my favourite haunt) but was actually tempted to the Nana side. Had one very fine experience with a girl from the club that used to be called "Bubbles" but has been renamed. Had been having a very pleasant time at a high table having my dick stroked by a very friendly and only half drunk spinner. It became clear that we had the same idea about what constituted a good time and we agreed 2000. I think the BF was 600. Off we went to the ST hotel literally on the same floor of the plaza, where I paid 300 for a room, towels and a condom (didn't use it).

    She was very fun, really into it and after 30 minutes of going at it we collapsed in a heap. Think her number was 11, and her name was Nam (Was also quite lazy during work appointments and had a few different girls visit me at my hotel in the afternoons. Met then on Badoo (the location search is a godsend). Two were amazing (one thai, one pinay), 1 was a dud. All three involved a nice long massage followed by a bumping of uglies. The dud (who used a false photo) got 1500, the other 2000 and the both stayed two hours. The thai girl came back from a second appointment where we skipped the massage and went straight to the fun.

  3. #39748
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    A very good assessment of the matter in question. I agree with your stance 100%.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    Seriously dude? It seems you missed the entire point of his post. I can't speak for the guy so I could be wrong about his intent, but it looks to me that he said nothing about wanting to fuck the author of that article.
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    In a Title IX investigation, the accused is often prevented from adequately reviewing the charges against him and prevented from adequately questioning witnesses. University officials conduct themselves in a manner that would embarrass even corrupt or amateurish judges and prosecutors. ".
    Quote Originally Posted by SearcherMan  [View Original Post]
    When guys pull that "feminazi" drivel that's what's behind their sniveling, "she won't fuck me".
    Quote Originally Posted by CallSignPapa  [View Original Post]
    So it's their right to be offended by our erotic proclivities and it's damn well our right to carry on enjoying ourselves regardless.
    Meanwhile, is anyone getting any sex in BKK?

    Perhaps we need a new thread called "Shooting The Breeze".

  4. #39747
    Quote Originally Posted by CallSignPapa  [View Original Post]
    The average western girl doesn't frequent the types of places we do. They don't understand the ecosystem we (and working girls) inhabit and they have clear moral judgements about guys paying for sex. That's fine, it's the way it's always been. 80% of girls will automatically think you're a loser if they know you'd rather bang a 22 year old Asian chick than a mid-30's white girl.

    What bugs me is the automatic assumption that the guy is taking advantage of the girl. There haven't been any occasions where the girl I've been with has been short-changed, but plenty where I have been.

    Terms like feminazi are facile. The truth is that women very rarely have any real power outside of marriage. So it's their right to be offended by our erotic proclivities and it's damn well our right to carry on enjoying ourselves regardless.
    A very good assessment of the matter in question. I agree with your stance 100%.

  5. #39746
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    I bring up these cases not because they're unusual but because they're becoming all too typical on campuses overrun by identity politics and governed by a federal educational bureaucracy that is lawlessly expanding Title IX and other federal statutes well beyond their intended scope. For disturbing chapter and verse on this sad and unconstitutional spectacle, I'the urge you to read Robert Shibley's excellent Twisting Title IX. The new regime mandates that universities conduct their own quasicourt proceedings to adjudicate criminal matters best left to real courts, sanctions and encourages "due process" that often denies legal assistance to defendants, and effectively shifts the burden of proof (through bizarre "affirmative consent" standards) to the accused. In a Title IX investigation, the accused is often prevented from adequately reviewing the charges against him and prevented from adequately questioning witnesses. University officials conduct themselves in a manner that would embarrass even corrupt or amateurish judges and prosecutors. ".
    Everything that Natty Bumpo says about many of the University Title IX hearings is true. Just to add some balance to those observations, I would simply add the following:

    There are no criminal consequences to a University Title IX hearing. The worse consequence is expulsion from the University. So, yes, life altering, but it's not any criminal finding. Yes, the University can refer a matter to the police and turn over the evidence they collected, but then the normal criminal system handles that procedure as normal.

    The whole idea behind these procedures is that Universities have an obligation to provide a safe educational environment for their students. Before the Clery Act for example, there were incidents involving male students who committed truly horrible, despicable acts against a girl or girls who then went on to commit other truly horrible, despicable acts against other girls. The idea behind these proceedings is that the University should remove these male predators from campus to protect the students. Take the story of Jeanne Clery, the 19 year old girl who was raped and murdered on campus under some horrific circumstances (The Clery Act is named after her). Nobody wants to even think about their daughters ever being subjected to such horrors.

    So, these University proceedings certainly have a place in keeping our students safe. At the same time, yes, the frenzy sometimes goes too far at some Universities and we end up with people taking things to extremes.

    So, while I certainly don't want to detract from any of Mr. Natty Bumpo's valuable contributions, I did want to add some additional information for balance.

  6. #39745
    Quote Originally Posted by SearcherMan  [View Original Post]
    TLDR: This right here, it bores me. You bring up a constitutional-criminal issue, all just to justify a meaningless, vapid slogan. I was speaking about the socio-political issues; apples. Oranges. You almost wasted my time. Do yourself a favor, don't waste yours too.
    Thanks for the advice. That and a couple of bucks will buy me a cup of coffee.

  7. #39744
    TLDR: This right here, it bores me. You bring up a constitutional-criminal issue, all just to justify a meaningless, vapid slogan. I was speaking about the socio-political issues; apples. Oranges. You almost wasted my time. Do yourself a favor, don't waste yours too.

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Wow, I must have hit a sensitive trip wire in your political makeup. Calm down! We are just having a discussion. There is no need for you to get nasty. Nastiness is usually a sign of a weak, but strongly held position.

    Yes, you can mention one feminist free thinker that goes against the party line. I like reading Camilia Paglia from time to time. But these independent feminine free thinkers are very few compared to the vast majority of feminists who are feminazis and hold power. And in Ms Paglia's case, she destroys the modern feminine leftwing (feminazi) philosophy. But I totally understand why you hate that term; Feminazi. It's because it's so accurate and drives a stake into the heart of your precarious position. Too bad. Here is just one example of the real work of Feminazis in action. I know in advance you would attack the author and the publication instead of arguing the merits and validity of the piece, that is how your political ilk operate, so I will withhold that information for thetime being, so you can concentrate on the piece and possibly comprehend how far this movement has gone in eroding our freedoms and rights under the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the USA..

  8. #39743
    Quote Originally Posted by SearcherMan  [View Original Post]
    When guys pull that "feminazi" drivel that's what's behind their sniveling, "she won't fuck me".

    There are plenty of well informed, sex positive feminists out there that support women who choose to be sex workers. My fave used to be a sex worker, Alana Massey. He needs to broaden his exposure to modern feminist thought and save his babble for a Trump rally. If people want to judge us, and those women who choose the profession we patronize, Alana has our back. She did a vicious take down of Rashida Jones on this, over porn, but she defends all sex workers from sanctimonious bullshit.
    Wow, I must have hit a sensitive trip wire in your political makeup. Calm down! We are just having a discussion. There is no need for you to get nasty. Nastiness is usually a sign of a weak, but strongly held position.

    Yes, you can mention one feminist free thinker that goes against the party line. I like reading Camilia Paglia from time to time. But these independent feminine free thinkers are very few compared to the vast majority of feminists who are feminazis and hold power. And in Ms Paglia's case, she destroys the modern feminine leftwing (feminazi) philosophy. But I totally understand why you hate that term; Feminazi. It's because it's so accurate and drives a stake into the heart of your precarious position. Too bad. Here is just one example of the real work of Feminazis in action. I know in advance you would attack the author and the publication instead of arguing the merits and validity of the piece, that is how your political ilk operate, so I will withhold that information for thetime being, so you can concentrate on the piece and possibly comprehend how far this movement has gone in eroding our freedoms and rights under the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the USA.

    "consider this legal complaint, directed at Indiana University. It is simply astounding. The university expelled a male student for sexual misconduct even though the female student allegedly admitted that she invited the male student into her bedroom, asked him to retrieve a sex toy, and asked him to have sex with her. She told the Bloomington police department, "I was, like, telling him, like, to have sex with me. ".

    The resulting university proceedings were allegedly a due-process horror show, featuring university hearing officers trained by an official "who admits that he starts each case believing the defendant is guilty. " The lawsuit points to news reports where this same official admitted to trying to "break" another defendant.

    And speaking of due-process horror shows, this case from James Madison University shows how universities engineer the results they want. After an initial finding that the male defendant was "not responsible" on the charge of sexual misconduct, the female student appealed. The appeals panel reversed the finding and sanctioned the male student. The male student sued, and a federal judge ruled in his favor, finding that "no reasonable jury" could find that he was given a "fair process. " The reasons were legion:

    In short, Doe, the male student, was given no opportunity to respond to some of the evidence. . . , was hampered by the rules prohibiting contact with witnesses or limited by time constraints in responding to others. . . , and was not permitted to appear before the appeal board. . . . Additionally, because the appeal board made no finding of responsibility by Doe and provided no reasons for its "Increased Sanction" decision, the appeal board decision and its review. . . Were unfair to Doe.

    I bring up these cases not because they're unusual but because they're becoming all too typical on campuses overrun by identity politics and governed by a federal educational bureaucracy that is lawlessly expanding Title IX and other federal statutes well beyond their intended scope. For disturbing chapter and verse on this sad and unconstitutional spectacle, I'the urge you to read Robert Shibley's excellent Twisting Title IX. The new regime mandates that universities conduct their own quasicourt proceedings to adjudicate criminal matters best left to real courts, sanctions and encourages "due process" that often denies legal assistance to defendants, and effectively shifts the burden of proof (through bizarre "affirmative consent" standards) to the accused. In a Title IX investigation, the accused is often prevented from adequately reviewing the charges against him and prevented from adequately questioning witnesses. University officials conduct themselves in a manner that would embarrass even corrupt or amateurish judges and prosecutors. ".

  9. #39742

    Perspective

    The average western girl doesn't frequent the types of places we do. They don't understand the ecosystem we (and working girls) inhabit and they have clear moral judgements about guys paying for sex. That's fine, it's the way it's always been. 80% of girls will automatically think you're a loser if they know you'd rather bang a 22 year old Asian chick than a mid-30's white girl.

    What bugs me is the automatic assumption that the guy is taking advantage of the girl. There haven't been any occasions where the girl I've been with has been short-changed, but plenty where I have been.

    Terms like feminazi are facile. The truth is that women very rarely have any real power outside of marriage. So it's their right to be offended by our erotic proclivities and it's damn well our right to carry on enjoying ourselves regardless.

  10. #39741

    Ridiculous article

    Quote Originally Posted by HighwayMan18  [View Original Post]
    I read this article and its pretty disturbing.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/ne...th-thai-girls/
    More nonsense from feminists in the West who continue to deteriorate relationships between men and women. So these men have found an alternative to have a relationship with women who have traditional family values. Now these femi-Nazis was to disparage these men.

  11. #39740
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    Seriously dude? It seems you missed the entire point of his post. I can't speak for the guy so I could be wrong about his intent, but it looks to me that he said nothing about wanting to fuck the author of that article. I read it that he said he didn't appreciate her twattish "holier-than-thou" attitude towards the men involved in that dating / marriage service. Hell, just the title of her crap article "Sad, sleazy, desperate men pay for love" is enough. I don't know if I'd want to have sex with the woman who wrote that article because I don't know if she's hot or not, nor if she would want to fuck me even if I wanted to fuck her, but that has nothing to due with the fact that she is obviously a clueless and judgemental twat. Although I have never tried that service because I'm lucky enough to live in Southeast Asia, I personally see nothing wrong with it. I don't pass judgement on those guys or the girls in the service. The guys are looking for a companion and the girls are looking for monetary stability. Seems fair all around in my eyes.

    One another note: have you tried Ice at Crazy House yet? I saw her the other day. She still looks good.
    When guys pull that "feminazi" drivel that's what's behind their sniveling, "she won't fuck me".

    There are plenty of well informed, sex positive feminists out there that support women who choose to be sex workers. My fave used to be a sex worker, Alana Massey. He needs to broaden his exposure to modern feminist thought and save his babble for a Trump rally. If people want to judge us, and those women who choose the profession we patronize, Alana has our back. She did a vicious take down of Rashida Jones on this, over porn, but she defends all sex workers from sanctimonious bullshit.

    http://www.alanakm.com/alanakm-blog/...o-moms-in-porn

    "The truth is, being a parent is a remarkably common reason that women do go into various forms of sex work. Because mothers often care more about providing for their children with food and shelter than providing them with comforting narratives of their mom's impeccable moral hygiene. There are plenty of mothers out there making their living in porn and this be- perpetuating the narrative that this ought to be a source of shame is making it worse for the families that might eventually have to grapple with these issues. So shut the fuck up about moms."

    The day I was free to hit CH was Vassana, and I walked the area and all was closed. I regret missing Ice. I know her price would've been steeper, but I would've payed if she was like the image you so wonderfully painted of her. I prioritized my previous, first run through BKK at the oilies, and was not disappointed.

  12. #39739
    Quote Originally Posted by DiveMonger  [View Original Post]
    I gave up on trying to get 'the prettiest girls in BKK' to chat me up a long time ago. Now, since I am a fat old white guy, most of the girls that I end up spending time with I'm sure most of the mongers here. Urely the ones under 40 or maybe even under 50 - might find quite unacceptable. My message to them: wait another 25 years and see what happens. If I want a model-quality drop-dead gorgeous Thai girl, then I might go to one of the high-end gogo bars and spread enormous amounts of money around. But for me, 7000+ baht for ST with a stunner who has an attitude and can't wait to get back to the bar is absolutely not value for my money A monger friend of mine decades ago used to say "one hairy hole is pretty much like another" (although thank god in Thailand most of the women keep that snatch shaved).

    So since I am ok with 40+ gals, and over the moon with gals closer to 30, it is not difficult for me. I picked up a lovely lady 35 yo in the bar on the left just after you turn up Sukhumvit towards Nana Plaza but before you get to the Nana entrance (can't recall the damn name of the bar now) and it was great. Expensive, because she was the best looker I've had in some years, but fit my specifications pretty much exactly:

    - 149 cm.

    -41 kg.

    -straight black hair down to the crack of her ass.

    -no tattoos.

    -no cigarrettes.

    -no facial or exotic body piercings (only ears for earrings).

    -decent english.

    -very pretty smile, very pretty face.

    Let me see, I think I paid a 700 baht barfine? And ended up giving her 4000 for all night. Took her out of the bar at around 10 PM, she left my hotel next morning at around 9:30 AM Excellent service. Perfectly shaved and very tasty pussy, puffy nipples (not common) on pert tiny little boobs. Exactly my preference. (for me, big tits are highly overrated) Took me about 3 minutes after entering the bar to see her sitting by herself, catch her eye and a little smile, bought her a drink, and shortly afterward sealed the deal.

    Sorry no photos. Didn't have my secure digital pocket camera with me this trip, and hooker photos on the cellphone (which I use for work also) is just too risky.

    So, maybe because I don't have super high expectations, wonderful things just fall into my lap. The key here is to be flexible, recognize that a bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush, and do not equivocate or waste a lot of time if you see a possible target.

    P.S. Jackson, the aggressive text modification on preview and post of what someone has written is absolutely maddening. Can't use ellipses? It auto uppercase things it thinks are names? Sigh.
    7000 for ST? Certainly wouldn't pay that, never been quoted that much before.

  13. #39738
    Yes, thank you Smoothy. You got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    It seems you missed the entire point of his post. I can't speak for the guy so I could be wrong about his intent, but it looks to me that he said nothing about wanting to fuck the author of that article. I read it that he said he didn't appreciate her twattish "holier-than-thou" attitude towards the men involved in that dating / marriage service. Hell, just the title of her crap article "Sad, sleazy, desperate men pay for love" is enough. .

  14. #39737
    Quote Originally Posted by SearcherMan  [View Original Post]
    Translation:

    "She won't fuck me so she's a twat and my bane."

    Got it.
    Seriously dude? It seems you missed the entire point of his post. I can't speak for the guy so I could be wrong about his intent, but it looks to me that he said nothing about wanting to fuck the author of that article. I read it that he said he didn't appreciate her twattish "holier-than-thou" attitude towards the men involved in that dating / marriage service. Hell, just the title of her crap article "Sad, sleazy, desperate men pay for love" is enough. I don't know if I'd want to have sex with the woman who wrote that article because I don't know if she's hot or not, nor if she would want to fuck me even if I wanted to fuck her, but that has nothing to due with the fact that she is obviously a clueless and judgemental twat. Although I have never tried that service because I'm lucky enough to live in Southeast Asia, I personally see nothing wrong with it. I don't pass judgement on those guys or the girls in the service. The guys are looking for a companion and the girls are looking for monetary stability. Seems fair all around in my eyes.

    One another note: have you tried Ice at Crazy House yet? I saw her the other day. She still looks good.

  15. #39736
    Quote Originally Posted by DextroSol  [View Original Post]
    Sounds great, same as my taste!! The bars on the left side when you turn from Suk is 1. Morning Night 2. Stumble Inn and 3. Big Dogs. Maybe it has changed since google drived past and took the pics.
    I think it was Stumble Inn. I'm generally too busy scoping out gash to pay attention to signs.

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