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  1. #3663
    Quote Originally Posted by AntonB  [View Original Post]
    .... It was wonderful and very exciting since it was indeed my first visit to one of these smorgasbords for gentlemen ....
    Your first visit to a venue of tis kind. When FKK Mainhattan was already a wonderful experience how delightful a stop-over in Sharks should be?

  2. #3662
    Quote Originally Posted by AntonB  [View Original Post]
    It was wonderful and very exciting since it was indeed my first visit to one of these smorgasbords for gentlemen. There were a few older and brazen women, Eastern European by the looks of it but quickly dodged those in favor of two beautiful girls in their mid twenties who seemed fun and offered to both join to a private room at the same time.

    All in all a good first endeavour
    Thanks for the update and sounds like a good first endeavour, any chance you might be able to expand on the services offered and prices asked by the majority of the girls. I am also curious if you care to share if you have a general description of the two who offered to go to the room simultaneously and perhaps where they were sitting in the club if you can recall.

    Glad you had fun.

  3. #3661

    Mainhattan trip report 10th February.

    Arrived to the Mainhattan FKK venue on a Saturday afternoon, and was in fact very surprised how much activity was going on there. The customer / girl ratio was indeed very favorable and the quality also better then expected, especially since a few forum users hinted that it was going downhill.

    Actually, since I prefer younger (around 25) best it was a better choice than the hardened sharks who very frequently call Palace their home.

    Anyhow, got a delicious Pilsner on tap and started the routine of scouting the establishment for preferred ladies. It was wonderful and very exciting since it was indeed my first visit to one of these smorgasbords for gentlemen. There were a few older and brazen women, Eastern European by the looks of it but quickly dodged those in favor of two beautiful girls in their mid twenties who seemed fun and offered to both join to a private room at the same time.

    All in all a good first endeavour, perhaps the venue itself could be improved with waterfall showers in the changing rooms and a bit bigger sauna as an example. I will return probably over the next Frankfurt stop-over.

    Anton.

  4. #3660
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Saw this happening first hand at Artemis a few times also. It is the worst thing that can happen in any club, and it got so bad there that if I see it happening again in a different club I will rant on the bad girls to management, because in some clubs I know very well who they are.
    Al-salaaam Pistons. I first saw this in Artemis too, as far back as 2012. It made me abandon the club. Back then nobody believed in girl cartels and if you talked about it, you were called a pussy. Since then the bullying has got a lot more open. But without regime change in Berlin, club managers feel helpless to deal with it, so I am pessimistic about the future of FKKs in Germany. Eventually there will be so much criminal activity going on inside the clubs that the puritans will say, "See this is what always happens with sex," and shut them all down.

    So that is why I have been working on my exit strategies.

  5. #3659
    Quote Originally Posted by Bitumen  [View Original Post]
    Mainhattan has gone the way of World and Palace in that BBBJ is becoming as rare as hen's teeth..
    Where are the reports about CBJ being prevalent at World?

  6. #3658
    Quote Originally Posted by KosherKowboy  [View Original Post]
    At least 10 come and talk to you. That is a great start! Puts you in a great position to play ball with them and get what you like in peace. One comes and talks to me the Romanian cartel is all over the girl and announces to her right away ' It is not his first time here he comes all the time and wants a BBBJ. ' I used to think that one particular girl had it out for me but she is the same one who turned a new girl in for too many appointments so I think that is her (their) way of letting the girls (newer ones) know ' if you go to the room with that guy we are watching and know you caved in. '.
    The Romanian cartel keeping the line up in check towing the line.

    Quote Originally Posted by KosherKowboy  [View Original Post]
    So having a known face helped me work a deal with some old reg (s) but it also screwed me in the sense that any girl who approached me was ' warned. ' It really was not the girl out to screw me over it is more a matter of the established Mainhatten girls who have learned how to still sell the CBJ and do well letting other girls know ' eyes are on them' not to step on their toes. Of course if the charge is 100 e I do not think the cartel would care if BBBJ was given as the girls would be in the cartel imposed 100 e range not 50 e ' gifts'.
    A sad state of affairs and you are a Mainhattan regular too.

    It is not fair.

    Quote Originally Posted by KosherKowboy  [View Original Post]
    Would love to hear the feedback too. I have an ' infatuation' with this place as I always go back it is where it all started and I have had the best sessions here over my two years playing over there so getting in and out with a BBBJ is always on each trip's docket. At least I will always try.

    I think the 50 BBBJ is off the table and ' pretty much' as you put it would be correct but I would also say it is still there ' in hiding' if you want to play ball. I think if some ' cartel' girls are not there that one who is patient can find the 50 e BBBJ. If you strike your deal with them while at your locker when they walk by (they constantly walk by esp when slow as that hallway is on their hunting path between the kino and the main club) or even if they are in the wellness area walking thru. One I even made arrangements with in the cafe, she was a friend of the one who gave me a BBBJ who I knew would offer it up for 50 e because her friend the night before told me before the BBBJ session if I wanted a double her friend would go bare as well. If you strike a deal away from the other girls the girl will tell you where to meet her usually on a 5-10 min delay and she will go get the sheet quietly (most likely by the cafe / kino out of sight is where she will tell you to meet her). Have your agreed upon fee with you so you can pay her in the room out of sight from the desk and other girls. The girls do not fear us, they fear club management and the other girls.
    Mainhattan has gone the way of World and Palace in that BBBJ is becoming as rare as hen's teeth. The new condom laws are becoming enforced by the power of the mighty dollar.

    It is like Custer's last stand all over again. The last man takes it in the gut.

    Your tactics have borne fruit and it needs investment of time and effort and perseverance by the monger at large. This is not for the slam dunk guy who wants to get in and get out in a short amount of time.

    Knowing girls beforehand may get you grand fathered in but this may not always be the case. I know of German locals from the Hessen state as opposed to the tourists from Brandenburg, BW or Bayern or NRW who have been done with covered blowjob by regulars.

    Quote Originally Posted by KosherKowboy  [View Original Post]
    I think when the club is crowded is probably the best time to go in, the girls are watching each other much less than and focused more on trying to fish in the johns. It is still no cake walk like Sharks for a BBBJ but with a little effort all it takes in one, and ' one' always has a friend.

    On another note:

    I have read some reports here and there and simply chatter with guys who are not on the net and there is talk now of girls in Sharks (and Oase) trying to upsell the BBBJ for 50 e. I encountered it in Sharks actually myself but the demand for that extra 50 e was quickly dropped became a mute point. In the meantime girls at Mainhatten and Palace are doing 100 rooms with BBBJ still. For those staying in the city pressed on time or simply wanting Mainhatten or Palace might these clubs come back in to play soon if the end result is going to be a 100 e note? (That is assuming the rumored upselling at Sharks continues).

    Who knows, I know of several guys from Texas who are not active on the ISG at all who have been to both city clubs, paid 100 e and had two great full hours and BBBJ included no discussion of it even. However all refused to go to my Day Care Center fearing (all rumors of course) unhealthy conditions and sexual practices.

    Also I did not note it last time but one Sharks girl did tell me the BBBJ was going ' bye bye' in a few months (who knows if she is right or wrong it is simply what she said).

    Also a few Mainhatten girls fully aware of the BBBJ /50 e at Oase / Sharks also said that is going ' bye bye' in a few months as well (once again, who knows if they were right or wrong it is simply what they said).

    Both the Sharks girl (had motivation to upsell me) and the Mainhatten girls (wanted my money than and there) had motivation to not tell the truth so the above is simply what poured out of their mouths, not my opinion. I can only react to what comes, not predict it.

    So yes Bituman, I think the 50 e BBBJ is pretty much off the table now, but I do think it is 'under the table ' and I too look forward to Sooner's report.
    Indeed the prevalence of 50 bucks extra for GFE on top of the 50 bucks basic service is going on-wards and upwards. If it gets to the state that it is 100 bucks for half a hour then I am definitely debunking back to the Swiss clubs where it is 100 bucks for half and you do get the full half hour and its full on GFE. May need to brush up on Swiss languages but bucks work as well.

  7. #3657
    Quote Originally Posted by MonSooner  [View Original Post]
    Will keep you posted of my findings. So far 10 girls asked me what they feel is most important and what they hope for: First time here?
    At least 10 come and talk to you. That is a great start! Puts you in a great position to play ball with them and get what you like in peace. One comes and talks to me the Romanian cartel is all over the girl and announces to her right away ' It is not his first time here he comes all the time and wants a BBBJ. ' I used to think that one particular girl had it out for me but she is the same one who turned a new girl in for too many appointments so I think that is her (their) way of letting the girls (newer ones) know ' if you go to the room with that guy we are watching and know you caved in. '.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bitumen  [View Original Post]
    Hey MonSooner, what is the feedback or verdict on Mainhattan?

    I know that BBBJ is pretty much off the table for 50 bucks.
    Would love to hear the feedback too. I have an ' infatuation' with this place as I always go back it is where it all started and I have had the best sessions here over my two years playing over there so getting in and out with a BBBJ is always on each trip's docket. At least I will always try.

    I think the 50 BBBJ is off the table and ' pretty much' as you put it would be correct but I would also say it is still there ' in hiding' if you want to play ball. I think if some ' cartel' girls are not there that one who is patient can find the 50 e BBBJ. If you strike your deal with them while at your locker when they walk by (they constantly walk by esp when slow as that hallway is on their hunting path between the kino and the main club) or even if they are in the wellness area walking thru. One I even made arrangements with in the cafe, she was a friend of the one who gave me a BBBJ who I knew would offer it up for 50 e because her friend the night before told me before the BBBJ session if I wanted a double her friend would go bare as well. If you strike a deal away from the other girls the girl will tell you where to meet her usually on a 5-10 min delay and she will go get the sheet quietly (most likely by the cafe / kino out of sight is where she will tell you to meet her). Have your agreed upon fee with you so you can pay her in the room out of sight from the desk and other girls. The girls do not fear us, they fear club management and the other girls.

    So having a known face helped me work a deal with some old reg (s) but it also screwed me in the sense that any girl who approached me was ' warned. ' It really was not the girl out to screw me over it is more a matter of the established Mainhatten girls who have learned how to still sell the CBJ and do well letting other girls know ' eyes are on them' not to step on their toes. Of course if the charge is 100 e I do not think the cartel would care if BBBJ was given as the girls would be in the cartel imposed 100 e range not 50 e ' gifts'.

    I think when the club is crowded is probably the best time to go in, the girls are watching each other much less than and focused more on trying to fish in the johns. It is still no cake walk like Sharks for a BBBJ but with a little effort all it takes in one, and ' one' always has a friend.

    On another note:

    I have read some reports here and there and simply chatter with guys who are not on the net and there is talk now of girls in Sharks (and Oase) trying to upsell the BBBJ for 50 e. I encountered it in Sharks actually myself but the demand for that extra 50 e was quickly dropped became a mute point. In the meantime girls at Mainhatten and Palace are doing 100 rooms with BBBJ still. For those staying in the city pressed on time or simply wanting Mainhatten or Palace might these clubs come back in to play soon if the end result is going to be a 100 e note? (That is assuming the rumored upselling at Sharks continues).

    Who knows, I know of several guys from Texas who are not active on the ISG at all who have been to both city clubs, paid 100 e and had two great full hours and BBBJ included no discussion of it even. However all refused to go to my Day Care Center fearing (all rumors of course) unhealthy conditions and sexual practices.

    Also I did not note it last time but one Sharks girl did tell me the BBBJ was going ' bye bye' in a few months (who knows if she is right or wrong it is simply what she said).

    Also a few Mainhatten girls fully aware of the BBBJ /50 e at Oase / Sharks also said that is going ' bye bye' in a few months as well (once again, who knows if they were right or wrong it is simply what they said).

    Both the Sharks girl (had motivation to upsell me) and the Mainhatten girls (wanted my money than and there) had motivation to not tell the truth so the above is simply what poured out of their mouths, not my opinion. I can only react to what comes, not predict it.

    So yes Bituman, I think the 50 e BBBJ is pretty much off the table now, but I do think it is 'under the table ' and I too look forward to Sooner's report.

  8. #3656
    Quote Originally Posted by MonSooner  [View Original Post]
    Will report about my service negotiations with the ladies.

    My first impression after 3,5 days mongering in Hessen: still good but if your not a local and unwilling to negotiate hard and with a certain verbal dexterity, paradise it is not (anymore).
    Hey MonSooner, what is the feedback or verdict on Mainhattan?

    I know that BBBJ is pretty much off the table for 50 bucks.

  9. #3655

    Live from Mainhattan.

    Had some business to attend early morning in FRA so made sense to give Mainhattan a try. Of course I am warned and careful about the going ONS and so called clique behaviourisms. Be that as it may on first glance. Weak LU. Maybe a bit early to give a final verdict but not impressive at the moment. Club is well attended though. Good for them. Will report about my service negotiations with the ladies.

    My first impression after 3,5 days mongering in Hessen: still good but if your not a local and unwilling to negotiate hard and with a certain verbal dexterity, paradise it is not (anymore).

    Please know that I am not price sensitive so I am willing to pay more if a club unit is higher. So, that depends on the club. If the price is 50.50 is what I pay. Or 100 for an hour.

    Will keep you posted of my findings. So far 10 girls asked me what they feel is most important and what they hope for: First time here?

    You know what that means eventually.

  10. #3654
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Well observed. Cliques of girls try to enforce their group norms on any errant girl, using any means necessary: primarily blackballing and / or lying. In another club in the last days a girl complained t o the club that a girl who was doing good business was undercutting the other girls prices. The usual lie is that a girl is doing bareback.
    Saw this happening first hand at Artemis a few times also. It is the worst thing that can happen in any club, and it got so bad there that if I see it happening again in a different club I will rant on the bad girls to management, because in some clubs I know very well who they are. I also hear rumors of it happening at Oase 3 years ago by a girl I was in the room with there who told me all about the details. And she was about to leave the club because of it as she hated it.

  11. #3653
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    Well observed. Cliques of girls try to enforce their group norms on any errant girl, using any means necessary: primarily blackballing and / or lying. In another club in the last days a girl complained t o the club that a girl who was doing good business was undercutting the other girls prices. The usual lie is that a girl is doing bareback.
    I have gotten a few inquires as to who to see here for BBBJ, no need to ask me. I'll never reveal.

    Happy ' Mainhatten-ing' for those that wish to roll the dice, hopefully what I have posted has helped others decide for themselves if they wish to roll the dice or not.

  12. #3652
    Well observed. Cliques of girls try to enforce their group norms on any errant girl, using any means necessary: primarily blackballing and / or lying. In another club in the last days a girl complained t o the club that a girl who was doing good business was undercutting the other girls prices. The usual lie is that a girl is doing bareback.

  13. #3651

    Just another quick update on the BBBJ at Mainhatten

    I went back again, I figure it is so close why not at least go swing the bat worst case is I eat well and enjoy the wellness center. From my few visits here this trip I think it is safe to say that BBBJ and CIM are still available but you either have to know the girl from past visits or just luck out or a combo of both. I will also add these girls are not busy, the turnover is huge and I notice every time a girl goes to the room all eyes are on her. Some vicious girls are in this club now. I took note of one new girl who was doing several rooms and a pair of girls saw each time and finally the two went to the desk and I heard them almost yelling at the receptionist. I think they were possibly ratting her out. This club is full of some bitter ladies, just have to work around them.

  14. #3650

    A Quick Visit to Mainhatten

    I left Alice's early after filling up one mouth and one pussy but overdosed myself on Viagra so decided to go elsewhere at night and did not want to bother with trains so it was either the RLD, Palace or Mainhatten and since it was dinner time I decided to give Mainhatten a whirl. I hopped in a taxi and got there about 8 PM or so. It was a ghost town. I would say maybe 20-25 girls were on. I recognized maybe 5 of them. Covered oral services are not acceptable to me so I was willing to get hosed for extra money if that is what it took but I if that would be the case I would go down fighting. That being said, I am going to leave all names off, leave this very generic. One of my old favorites was there who I had seen many times who turned in to greedy upseller after July 1 2017 and perhaps she is equal to a PD at Sharks as anytime an Asian walks in she attacks and always scores big so her incentive to give me my old service was not there.

    She did agree to that 100 BBBJ / CFS 30 min deal. I told her I would see her later when ready but that was my ' ace in the hole' if all else failed. She would not budge for a 100 hour with BBBJ. I really can not blame her no incentive for her. Within 5 minutes of talking to her 3 Asian clients walked in, she and her friend pounced and they took two of them to the room for a foursome. The other client was captured within 10 minutes by another Mainhatten hunter who sits on that same couch between the bar and the stairs.

    Another old regular was there, told me how broke she was, asked for a drink, sent her packing. I sat in my favorite spot for about twenty minutes and the entire LU circulated and I must say there are some real hot ones there but there are some real losers. I got approached several times and got the usual ' first time here?' question only to have the girl be told by another girl ' he only likes the blowjob with no condom. ' I am tagged there. They all know. I was determined to find myself a 50 E BBBJ session, time was on my side and it was slow. I used the wellness area, ate some food and popped another gel pack of 100 MG and started working the other ones I knew.

    One of my old regs stopped by to say Hello, and we shot the bull, talked about all the new laws, the taxes blah blah. She asked me how Sharks had been treating me. I asked her how she knew I had been going there to which she replied ' we know everything. ' She too would not budge on the BBBJ. It was very apparent from her comments the club management is up their asses to not do BBBJ at all. I told her ' talk to you later. ' Time went by she had nothing going. I finally said to her ' look, I am an old regular, I am not the police, and she started to cave in and say she would ' kiss the tip and lick the tip of my cock' but she did not want to get in trouble. Finally she told me she would do the 50 E BBBJ / CFS session with me but she was worried if seen going to the room with me all the other girls would know she gave me a BBBJ as the entire crew there of old knows I will not go for CBJ at all that I would just walk out.

    Finally she asked me if she did would I promise not to tell, of course I replied that I would not say a word nor ask another girl for the same. I told her I was going to be a one and done anyway. She agreed to the 50 E BBBJ / CFS session and told me the following.

    ' When you are ready signal me, let us not talk again tonight. When you signal me you go to the kino and I will meet you there 5 minutes later and we would sneak in to a room in that back section to do our thing. About 30 minutes later I walked by her, gave her a nod and went to the kino. 5 minutes later she showed up with a sheet. However the rooms were full. In the meantime two Turkish men and a blond walked in to the kino to que up a room. I mentioned to her ' looks like she likes two men at a time' and she told me ' no, that one is her boyfriend and he comes to the club to watch his friends fuck her sometimes joins in. ' Finally a room opened up and we scurried in.

    She gave me an excellent bareback blowjob no rushing, took her time than fucked me. As usual I lost my hard on with a rubber and she went back to BBBJ and when ready to cum pulled her mouth off and jerked me and I plastered my stomach in cum. Great session. I handed her the 50 Euro in the room as we talked about so that after the session she would not be seen being paid at the desk / keybox area as anyone who saw (girls) would know she caved in. I am a marked man there but when there is a will there is a way, when a tute is making no money they will cave in. Patience paid off.

    She opened the door, looked both ways saw nobody and we split and she went downstairs to the ladies vashing area and I went to stuff my face. Good food last night. They have even upgraded from plastic Pepsi cups to glasses. Same folks working the cafateria still yelling at people who do not put the cups in the holders or plates and silverware in the correct slots. I stuffed my face, went to shower, got dressed and bailed. While getting dressed the evil ' partner' of my hot regular old blond saw me getting dressed and gave me that ' you have been a bad sneaky boy look', she knew but was clueless as to who. She smiled and said ' maybe you see me next time' and I told her ' you know my rules'; she smiled and nodded.

    I left a happy man, hopped in a cab and went back to the hotel.

    I had a good time there, got what I wanted but it was not easy. Had I not been an old reg of a few I would have been shit out of luck or had to have paid for the hour or more or been upsold etc.

    I still have to give this club a big fat ' No' recommendation but will say if you have been here before and know a few faces the 50 E BBBJ is still there, just takes a little work, effort and motivation.

    When I left the club was full of Turkish men, so it appears late night nothing has changed. There were very few white men or Asian men in the club compared to years past.

    Well that is it for Mainhatten this trip, went there to see what I could get willing to TOFTT and get upsold walked out very content.

  15. #3649

    Mainhattan in 2018.

    Apart from the surge generated from Messe in Frankfurt the club except at weekends is relatively quiet.

    In my experience, the deal for 50 euros is CBJ and CFS for 30 minutes which works out really as between 10 to 20 minutes as the girls rush you out the door. I am sure super studs on ISG will refute my experience and say that they get BBBJ, DATY, 69, AO anal with CIM ending and the girl pays them for the service. Wait that must be the Romanian, German and Turkish pimps driving the cars with OF for Offenbach licence plates.

    The other experience is that the deal is 100 bucks for BBBJ and CFS for 30 minutes. Now many girls will not even offer that service since as we all know full well that uncovered services are banned.

    The club still has its Kino showing porno movies, the food is edible and plentiful and has variety which is a massive change to the day in and day out same same food at Sharks. The wellness is more than adequate for the size of the club.

    You have to do some seeking to get what you want. Someone else's experience is welcome.

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