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  1. #1602
    SL. Thanks for what is probably the most informative and considered assessment there has been on this.

  2. #1601

    No recompense for sexual acts = no ProstSchG applicability

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    Welcome back SL, took a long while for you to return, and now you are. After July 1st.

    As I wrote in the SG thread: apparantly the lawyers of SG did not read the law very detailed.
    I'm pretty sure that SG-Parties are the only ones at all who read the entire text of the law, including all the comments of the draft-law.

    Once again, as I already wrote in the SG thread: The whole thing revolves around one simple fact, namely whether there's a sexual act of more than just an acting nature performed for a recompense. If not, then the "law" doesn't apply at all, "condom duty" included. The new SG-Parties concept is taylor-made to fit these circumstances.

    Of course one can be absolutely certain that at least before the end of next week at least one of the SG-Parties events gets raided, because some Dirtbag competition (propably form up north) files some unfounded bogus charges against them. I'm also 100% certain that the "authorities" of whatever sort will leave there pissed off about the bogus charges, just like they did after the useless raid on TUE June 27th in Wülfrath, which yielded nothing for them. And I'm pretty sure that the forementioned Dirtbag competition will be ground into mulch before the end of July, if for nothing else than their repeated false accusations.

    The good thing is, that chances of another raid in Wülfrath in the next months are somewhere around zero. One raid without result should be enough to keep "them" away for quite a while.

    The only good news is that finally the SG parties are NOT overcrowded anymore, so probably probably more will visit it the coming weeks.
    Remains to be seen. Holiday time should prevent parties from being overcrowded anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    SL. Welcome back. Useful info on attendance. I am not surprised in view of many German posters saying they will not attend such events until they know whether or not the Police will raid such events with the consequence legal letters will then arrive at their home addresses.
    Yes, of course. Typical attitude. Fear about complete nonsense. A simple raid doesn't produce any legal letters. That would only happen along with a substantial accusation. I've been through two raids at sex parties so far, I've never gotten any mail about that at all.

    There is only one single point in that entire "law" which applies to customers at all, and that's the "condom duty". Provided that the entire law is applicable. So customers of a rubber-party aren't affected at all. Funny thing that I was told that Laureen Pink had only 3 guests at her first July condom-party. How stupid is that?

    Unfortunately the text of the law etc you enclose is beyond my basic German.
    Naturally. I only posted that link so everyone could see how voluminous this draft-law was.

    And anybody who still thinks that there's a gangbang ban in there, is encouraged to tell me the page and paragraph where it is to be found.

    I do think it is most unlikely that any appeals on grounds that there is no such country legally as Germany will get nowhere. Similarly the genocide claims. If I remember correctly there is a legal challenge submitted via a Stuttgart court by a prostitutes' group do you have any info on that?
    The appeals might work if filed by foreigners. The legal challenge you mentioned is propably the constitutional complaint filed by the "Doña Carmen e. V. " from Frankfurt. But that would be at the Federal Constitutional Court in Karlsruhe. Look here, where you can also find a link to the complaint: http://www.donacarmen.de/die-verfass...nschutzgesetz/.

    Doña Carmen is quite an interesting group. They propose that all sexworkers who follow the rules and register themselves should do so by making full use of that "law". Namely that (1) they should all register under the same artist name "Alice Schwarzer" and (2) state all 11000 communities as places where they PLAN to work in the future. They call it "Gib Repression keine Chance. " (which loosely translates as: Don't give repression a chance!) and it looks as if it gets positive reaction from the sexworkers: http://www.donacarmen.de/info-brief-...tionsbetriebe/#more-1484.

    They even have this appeal on their side in other languages, including English: http://www.donacarmen.de/appeal-to-every-sexworker/#more-1447.

    Now imagine only 2000 sexworkers follow that appeal, then that's 22 million e-mails that have to be send out to the 11000 municipalities in order to inform them about the plans of those 2000 sexworkers to work in their community. I'm also curious about the "hoor-passport" that will contain the names of all those 11000 communities and about how local "authorities" will handle those registrations within 5 days, which they are required to do by law. Should be interesting.

    Of course, there are some events by genuine amateurs which clearly fall outside any interpretation of the law. One in a couple of weeks seems to be getting a long list of attendees, as you know.

    Cheers.
    Well, chances of getting as many different party places as before are zero. Unless / until the law gets officially declared invalid, I don't think that more than of a handful of organizers will survive.

    SG-Parties will be one of them. Another one will be Melanie Moon, at least with her freebie movie shootings. Same goes for Sexy-Natalie. Gina Blonde has good chances too, provided she can work out how to pay the 2nd woman without paying her for sex. Salma de Nora's parties would likewise have good chances to survive, but I seriously doubt that she's smart enough to take the proper actions. Privately organized AO events will also continue. And some of the rubber-events should find a way to go on as well.

    Finding all those events will be the big difficulty, because next to no one can advertise for it properly anymore, especially not like they did in the past.

    And here's my prediction for the first ones to get smashed:

    (1) GB01 / GB Media in Stuhr etc (Their ads are really laughable; they might as well donate the fines to the city upfront. Same goes for the guys who go there.).

    (2) beöse Mädchen "Swingertreff" in Stuttgart (Too undisciplined to work themselves around the "law".).

    (3) MEGA-Extrem in Zaberfeld (No. 3, unless they take an extended summer vacation and others get trashed before they return. Since they have to pay the women a pay of artists, their movie productions are all of a sudden defined as prostitution since July 1st. The fact that the men don't have to pay anything is beside the point.).

    (4) Maybe Spermastudio, dependent on how their contracts are laid out. Since I believe that they also have to pay the women for their sexual acts, that's defined as prostitution as well. Or do the women there fuck for free? If that were the case, then they're off the hook.

  3. #1600
    Welcome back SL, took a long while for you to return, and now you are. After July 1st.

    As I wrote in the SG thread: apparantly the lawyers of SG did not read the law very detailed.

    The only good news is that finally the SG parties are NOT overcrowded anymore, so probably probably more will visit it the coming weeks.

  4. #1599
    SL. Welcome back. Useful info on attendance. I am not surprised in view of many German posters saying they will not attend such events until they know whether or not the Police will raid such events with the consequence legal letters will then arrive at their home addresses.

    Unfortunately the text of the law etc you enclose is beyond my basic German.

    I do think it is most unlikely that any appeals on grounds that there is no such country legally as Germany will get nowhere. Similarly the genocide claims. If I remember correctly there is a legal challenge submitted via a Stuttgart court by a prostitutes' group do you have any info on that?

    Of course, there are some events by genuine amateurs which clearly fall outside any interpretation of the law. One in a couple of weeks seems to be getting a long list of attendees, as you know.

    Cheers.

  5. #1598
    Well, well, now. SG-Parties have developed a party concept, which (because they don't employ any prostitutes) is not the least bit covered by the "prostitutes-protection law" (ProstSchG) at all, and then next to no guys show up!

    There was a little over a dozen guys there at the party in Mörfelden on July 3rd, two of the 5 private couples had left pretty quickly when they saw how few guys were present. But there were still 3 couples and 2 women left who wanted to be done by this pathetically low number of guys. So all guys were practically in party heaven! Provided they could produce enough cream all by themselves.

    Exceptionally great were the shows that Gundula, Jessy Jay and even that stripper guy Brandon had put on the stage. (Alice was missing. I'the guess that she got cancelled due to the lack of registrations.) What Gundula and Jessy had put on the stage was beyond description!

    So, the shows were great, the women were great, the fucking was great, the food was good, even the weather was good, everybody present was in a good mood, except for the organizers of the event. I would have donated a pack of paper handkerchief tissues if I had one on me, because the hole that this party must have ripped into their purse must be quite large.

    Imagine having a party to which the ProstSchG doesn't apply, having 5 cum-hungry pussies around, and then next to no guys show up! Which makes 2 more couples leave shortly after arriving.

    And all this because of "German Angst" (=fear) of a "law" that doesn't even define a territorial area of application and is invalid due to numerous other formal errors, not the least of which is the "condom-duty", which best I can tell is constituting an act of genocide according to the "Völkerstrafgesetzbuch" and the underlying UN-resolution.

    Then there's the "law about the misdemeanor offences", the Administrative Offences Act (OWiG), which also doesn't define any territorial area of application anymore, other than ships and aircraft under BRD flag.

    Given all that, SG still go through all the trouble and work out a party concept that is not even covered by that invalid "law" in the first place, and then still next to no one shows up! Shame on you!

    I could be happy, because that means more time with the women for me myself. But if this should continue, SG would be broke in a month, and I would lose a great place to party with horny private women.

    I hope that there will be more guys around at next week's parties. I can't do 8 private guest women all by myself, like the ones that were in Wülfrath last Tuesday.

    From the look of things, most party organizers have folded their tents already out of their own volition. I also suspect, that SG-parties are the only ones who actually read the entire text of the "law", along with all comments that were included in the draft-law as it was entered into the Bundestag. http://dip21.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/18/085/1808556.pdf.

    So come August, chances are that you're left with only a handful of surviving party organizers, one of them being SG-parties. It would be a shame if they would have to stop due to lack of guests. So c'mon and party! I will.

  6. #1597

    How are the GGG parties?

    Hey mongers,

    I'll be in Germany in a few months and will most likely be fulfilling a long-term fantasy, I. E. , GGG party. I've been wanting to attend one since 2012, but have never had the chance when making my annual visit. This time, things might just work out, which is why I wanted to understand if GGG really is worth all the fuss?

    - How are the girls?

    - Do they provide towels and face mask or do we bring our own?

    - How many men usually per event?

    - How many girls working usually per event?

    - Is it super fun or not as much fun (I've read Salma Nora parties have become crap)?

    Overall, just would love some insight from anyone who has ever been / attended and any advise on what to look out for.

    Thanks!

  7. #1596

    AO = All Over?

    Just came back from 7 days hard barebacking in Germany. Lined up a different gangbang to go to every single day and barebacked every day although in the end went to a couple of RTCs to 'chill out' on two of the days because I did not have the energy for another gangbang.

    Plenty of creampies with young Romanian / Bulgarian women and porn stars but sometimes it was cum on pussy or face because fucking pussy was not enough to make me cum again and so I had to work myself off by hand.

    The idea was to indulge so much that I would be sick of the whole bareback thing for a while but unfortunately the trip only served to rev up my libido so that I had severe withdrawal symptoms the second day back.

  8. #1595

    Boese maedchen. Stuttgart,22nd June 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Gggfan  [View Original Post]
    Looking for more info or report on the same as FrenchieAtlanti: Boese maedchen. Parties on 19,22 and 27 of June.
    EuroContrast, could you elaborate? Anyone else?
    Not a lot of feedback from those parties, so decided to have a try while on a business trip nearby. A bit of a first for me as all other -numerous- parties I attended in Germany were quite documented here (especially here on ISG) and there (even if meaning deciphering and making some homework ... but preparation is part of the fun, no?) ... an occasion to say thanks to the members of the ISG community reporting extensively.

    Boese maedchen. Stuttgart,22nd June 2017 - 3:00 pm to 7:00 pm

    On the way
    Had panned to reach by opening time (2:45 pm), but because of longer than expected meeting and congested roads, I finally arrived in the vicinity around 3:50 pm. Very central location in the city but easy underground (paid) parking. Very easy place to locate with the address and google maps (street view available for once in Germany). No sign, just go up the stairs (strenuous four floors).

    Arrival
    Welcomed by a smiling bloke. Speaks good english.
    Usual testing and valuables storing (boxes for clothes, valuable given to organisation).
    And on the colored wristband.
    Very straightforward arrival and procedures: always a relieve when you do not master the German language.

    The place
    Located on 4th floor of the building. The place is on two floors.
    Floor 1: Welcome/testing booth, 4 rooms, toilets, bathroom.
    • 1 room used for organisation.
    • 1 room used as changing room.
    • 1 play room with 1 bed and 1 gyn chair.
    • 1 play room with 1 bed.
    • Testing booth in the corridor on the left just behind the (small) spiral staircase.
    Floor 2: the attic tsyle room with Bar and play room
    • 1 bar on the left.
    • 1 big play area with a few seating facing it.
    Overall a bit on the small size especially the top floor (size is good but with the leaning walls because being the attic, it reduces the place where you can stand). Place is clean and quite good for these kind of parties.

    The girls
    • Yvonne: very good looking MILF. In very good shape: small tits, nice ass, very tonic body. Very nasty, always on action. In the more than two hours I attended, I saw her take a break for. 10 minutes only. My star of the party.
    • Maggy: ok looking MILF.
    • Manta: wearing a butt plug during the whole party. Quite willing. Less attractive than the former and more on the quieter side. Nearly always on the mat.
    • Moni: Less attractive than the former. Wearing a collar. Did not see her too much into action. Did spend some time on the gyn chair. Plastic glove was asked for her at some time but did not witness what they did with it as I was busy upstairs.
    Overall I would say a quality line-up. The star is Yvonne, that's obvious. The other MILF are less attractive but always on action and smiling.

    The attendance
    Some coming and going during my 2 hours+ stay, but I counted maximum 15/20 guys present at the same time. Quite a relaxed attendance.

    The experience
    Arrived late, so had to reduce my time there as I had commitment afterwards miles from Stuttgart: overall stayed a little bit more than two hours there.
    I liked the atmosphere during the parties which was first dur to the constant activity of the girls and also to the chilled mood of the attendance.
    Activities can get quite hardcore depending on the guys: the girls for sure are willing to go for it! Attitude towards c*m was as expected in such parties.
    Overall, I loved it and I would have preferred staying from start to finish. My star of the day is, you have guessed it, Yvonne.
    Repeat factor: 90%.

    References and additional infos
    A few pics of the girls attending those parties here.
    Information on their Swingerclub Boese Maedchen website 1 and website 2.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails mikel-birthday.jpg‎  

  9. #1594
    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchieAtlanti  [View Original Post]
    Is someone know this king of parties?
    http://www.boesemaedchen.net/e
    Quote Originally Posted by EuroContrast  [View Original Post]
    I've been to many of these parties in Stuttgart. They are pretty good. Relaxed, and not a lot of people! I've always had fun.
    Looking for more info or report on the same as FrenchieAtlanti: Boese maedchen. Parties on 19,22 and 27 of June.

    EuroContrast, could you elaborate? Anyone else?

  10. #1593
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxime  [View Original Post]
    the one kissing her in the end? LOL :-)
    I seen that part on the video. I gladly did not witness that portion of the filming, but it didn't surprise me either, consider the guy that did it. He showed up with some guy that followed him around and stuck to him like a fungus. I thought it was kind of peculiar, especially since his friend didn't engage in the event. He didn't take off as much as a sock. He just hovered around him the whole time.

  11. #1592
    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh  [View Original Post]
    Great report but for some reason I found it a bit harder to understand than normal. Wasn't sure what you were really trying to say about Adreena Winters..
    I guess what I really wanted to say is "she has a face similar to Hubbert the Pervert from Family Guy (if of course your familiar with the characters of the show), but as you know Myrrh, its hard to really express what you mean, due to the backlash you get from other members that treat these workers as if you were insulting their most sincere girl friends. Of course, I think I'm in deep denial sometimes, considering all the time and monetary commitment I waste at these things. When most of the women at these events are either frigid or barely doable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh  [View Original Post]
    There are a few Adreena videos online and although it looks, from the SS video that you kindly uploaded, that she has gained a little bit of weight she has quite a bit of a way to go before she gets to the bulbous proportions of Jana, not to mention having a similar heavily wrinkled face..
    Yeah, probably not the most accurate description, but I think as I just mentioned above all the disappointments at these affairs makes me delusional. Although, she does have smooth skin and she's not over weight really in anyway. By no means is she petite. Basically she's nothing to write home about in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh  [View Original Post]
    Winters gives a typically stiff, uptight and cold performance in her videos. She is English after all.
    She's no Anna, which I think gives one of the most sincere and passionate performance's in the SS videos. Those that did not attend, shouldn't feel at a loss.

  12. #1591

    Porn free

    Quote Originally Posted by Leifeide  [View Original Post]
    Why would you wish to do that? If people stop paying for the videos, Spermastudio will soon be out of business. Is that what we want? No way! Come on, pay, enjoy and don't share (steal).
    Does anyone actually still pay for porn these days? Given it is available totally free, completely wall-to-wall across the entire internet network? Well, yes they do either out of ignorance or because for some reason they feel that they have to watch a particular video right now and it seems to be only available P4P (although if you search or wait long enough every single porn video or its near identical equivalent is going to be available free on the internet).

    Truly successful internet entrepreneurs know that the optimal earning internet products are the ones provided free at the point of consumption but which rake in $$$ from lucrative advertising. So it is a fallacy that if you stop paying for videos that porn studios will soon go out of business.

    I liken those guys who pay for porn to those guys who go to internet cafes and pay for access when the same internet access is available free of charge at restaurants / cafes like McDonalds nearby. McDs provide it free and somehow still manage to stay in business.

  13. #1590
    Quote Originally Posted by CeeJay1  [View Original Post]
    Well here it goes, the Adreena Winters video. Cut and paste the link into the very top of your web page and enjoy, before they take it down. https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h593109e5475f6.
    Thanks, and you are the guy with the mask or the one kissing her in the end? LOL :-)

    BTW, this video is good promotion voor SS, so it might help them to get more visitors (especially after July 1st) and more men buying their video's.

  14. #1589
    Quote Originally Posted by CeeJay1  [View Original Post]
    Well back to the main event. Well, let me start off with, should I be surprised at what the results were, as far as the girl, or the event. When I first seen Adreena open the door and come out of studio one, I was thinking "okay, she's here and maybe there's a second girl". I didn't get a good look at her, but I thought she looked okay from what I saw. Once the event started and through out the rest of night, I was thinking I was right, she's a butta face and I thought she was petite from her pictures. I was wrong. I mean, she's not fat. She has a medium frame, smooth skin and nice butt, but give a few Big Macs and you might have a younger Bitchy Jana. Give it a few years. If the new laws weren't coming, I'm sure she would evolve through the typical GB scene maturity cycle. She's already started at GGG, passed through spermastudios, and rotating through GB01 in a few weeks. Last stop, "spermagames" (the glue factory for alot of these pornstars).
    Great report but for some reason I found it a bit harder to understand than normal. Wasn't sure what you were really trying to say about Adreena Winters.

    There are a few Adreena videos online and although it looks, from the SS video that you kindly uploaded, that she has gained a little bit of weight she has quite a bit of a way to go before she gets to the bulbous proportions of Jana, not to mention having a similar heavily wrinkled face.

    Winters gives a typically stiff, uptight and cold performance in her videos. She is English after all.

  15. #1588
    Quote Originally Posted by CeeJay1  [View Original Post]
    Well here it goes, the Adreena Winters video. Cut and paste the link into the very top of your web page and enjoy, before they take it down. https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h593109e5475f6.
    Or actually just click on the link. For the those of you that feel conscientious, I guess can go buy it off their web site.

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