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    Racism

    I am Chinese although I have lived in USA for many years. However, I return to Asia very frequently.

    How can I be racist with my own people? It is because I know my own people that I haggle. It's the system, the culture. Yes, after living in the West for many years I find it irritating but I am more offended if I get ripped off. Also being Asian, I know the local prices. Moreover, the majority of these vendors live (not just survive, but live) by doing business with locals, not with tourists. They get their steak and lobster when they do business with foreigners who feel sorry for them.

    Give you an example: I go to a "wholesale" or "knock-off" market in Beijing or Shanghai and can buy a set of three suitcases for about US $100. Locals can get them for as low as $80 but I am happy with my purchase. Then when I see a foreigner lugging a similar suitcase, I asked them how much they pay. They would pay $70-80 for one suitcase! The same thing happens with belts, wallets, shirts, backpacks, furniture, accessories, and of course, women.

    I am not making judgement. If you want to pay more, go ahead, if you are okay with it. I am not. However, if I am happy with the service, I usually give a western-sized tip, as much as one-third of the price, or I take them to a nice dinner which I know they will never be able to afford (anyway, it's more fun to eat with company than alone).

    A point about taxis: in some Asian countries like Japan, China and Singapore, taking taxis are okay because the drivers do not cheat you, either by over-charging, faulty meter or going on a longer route. Perhaps these drivers are better paid, or better regulated. But in some countries, it's a hassle.

    Yes, like L.A.T., just my 2,000 dong too.

    Funman13.

    Quote Originally Posted by SoloTravels  [View Original Post]
    "Greed factor with Asians".

    "always highball".

    Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. Try going to Hermes and haggle.

    You speak with certainty, no one is asking you to accept their price point but haggling them to a point where they would make almost nothing for their work. But have to accept it due to their circumstances is beyond cheap.

    To each his own, everything depends on your financial situation. I've personally only took a Xe Om (gave the old guy 500 k, it means nothing to me but its significant to him) once, and took taxis ever since and I've been here for almost 10 months now.

  2. #399
    I prefer covered BJs, I find that if you sweet talk a girl, get to know her, tip her well, she usually puts in a better effort, and even if its a covered BJ, because she puts in more effort and technique the CBJ is still excellent. I am pretty careful about herpes so I prefer CBJ over BBBJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by MutantChicken  [View Original Post]
    There are a few areas which have streets filled with cafe m where you can enter have a drink and a BBBJ from a pretty syt for 120-150 k one such area I frequent has two street with 10-15 shops. Is now currently closed due to police operations. So whilst girls are indeed back from tet there are other factors limiting cheong activities. Luckily I know another street with 6-7 hottoc where for 200 k you can find 18 yr old 8/10 give you a BBBJ.

  3. #398
    I agree solo, the exchange rate between the Vietnamese dong and the American dollar, isn't fair so why should locals be fair? And if you feel like you are being ripped off, well just remind yourself that your money is worth a lot so it shouldn't be a big deal, unless you choose to make it a big deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by SoloTravels  [View Original Post]
    "Greed factor with Asians".

    "always highball".

    Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. Try going to Hermes and haggle.

    You speak with certainty, no one is asking you to accept their price point but haggling them to a point where they would make almost nothing for their work. But have to accept it due to their circumstances is beyond cheap.

    To each his own, everything depends on your financial situation. I've personally only took a Xe Om (gave the old guy 500 k, it means nothing to me but its significant to him) once, and took taxis ever since and I've been here for almost 10 months now.

  4. #397
    Quote Originally Posted by StrongBad  [View Original Post]
    What do you guys like more, hot tocs or cafe BJ / HJ? Iam guessing the cafe are better because you can chat with the girls where as hot tocs are a quick in and out.

    Well then it looks like on my next trip to Nam Iam going to have to bring a battery powered lamp.

    I am only visiting for 3 weeks at the most, so not really wanting to waste my time finding a girlfriend. I am too busy visiting family, hanging with cousins, going on tours to different parts of the country.
    There are a few areas which have streets filled with cafe m where you can enter have a drink and a BBBJ from a pretty syt for 120-150 k one such area I frequent has two street with 10-15 shops. Is now currently closed due to police operations. So whilst girls are indeed back from tet there are other factors limiting cheong activities. Luckily I know another street with 6-7 hottoc where for 200 k you can find 18 yr old 8/10 give you a BBBJ.

  5. #396
    What do you guys like more, hot tocs or cafe BJ / HJ? Iam guessing the cafe are better because you can chat with the girls where as hot tocs are a quick in and out.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanThief  [View Original Post]
    You need a girlfriend.

    Examination Room 2 B.
    Well then it looks like on my next trip to Nam Iam going to have to bring a battery powered lamp.

    I am only visiting for 3 weeks at the most, so not really wanting to waste my time finding a girlfriend. I am too busy visiting family, hanging with cousins, going on tours to different parts of the country.

  6. #395
    Quote Originally Posted by StrongBad  [View Original Post]
    One of the main reasons why I go to a hot toc is to eat pussy.
    You need a girlfriend.

    Examination Room 2 B.
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  7. #394
    "Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. ".

    Awe so cute, Solo flaunting his racism card.

    I didn't find anything LAT wrote racist and I am Viet kieu. I hate to haggle but I hate more when they try to screw you. Don't tell me you only find righteous people in Vietnam that always give you fair price any services. With service, in the back of my head a little voice always ask me "how much they going to fuck you".

  8. #393
    Quote Originally Posted by LuvAsianTang  [View Original Post]
    Ok you are right they do have to eat too. Now having said that, the scenario is, that they always highball you at first and in asia if you take the first offer you are considered an easy mark. After getting the 60 then the next time it will be 70 then 80 etc. Are you getting the drift? You have to allow for the greed factor with asians. Negotiating is the norm in asian cultures not the exception. So if you want to drive prices up then just give them what the ask. Oh and by the way. Carry with you, at all times, a wad of tissue and a tube of KY jelly, you will need them both.

    Just my 2000 dong, L A T.
    "Greed factor with Asians".

    "always highball".

    Racism at its finest, there are a lot of things you can't haggle. Try going to Hermes and haggle.

    You speak with certainty, no one is asking you to accept their price point but haggling them to a point where they would make almost nothing for their work. But have to accept it due to their circumstances is beyond cheap.

    To each his own, everything depends on your financial situation. I've personally only took a Xe Om (gave the old guy 500 k, it means nothing to me but its significant to him) once, and took taxis ever since and I've been here for almost 10 months now.

  9. #392

    The scenario

    Quote Originally Posted by SoloTravels  [View Original Post]
    There's no reason why you would not take an actual taxi in Saigon, that's ridiculous. You're safe from the heat and reckless motorbike drivers.

    60 k is reasonable, why would you haggle down to 30 k. Xe om needs to eat too.
    Ok you are right they do have to eat too. Now having said that, the scenario is, that they always highball you at first and in asia if you take the first offer you are considered an easy mark. After getting the 60 then the next time it will be 70 then 80 etc. Are you getting the drift? You have to allow for the greed factor with asians. Negotiating is the norm in asian cultures not the exception. So if you want to drive prices up then just give them what the ask. Oh and by the way. Carry with you, at all times, a wad of tissue and a tube of KY jelly, you will need them both.

    Just my 2000 dong, L A T.

  10. #391
    Quote Originally Posted by FunMan13  [View Original Post]
    Fast Eddie,

    I traveled extensively in Asia and never have a problem crossing busy streets. You just have to know the technique. Best to follow a local. My reluctance with taking motorbike taxi or Xe Om is the hassle of haggling with them. They always quote me a ridiculous price and we have to haggle. I prefer to just walk to take the bus. I guess I am very impatient. This also happens to me in AC.

    By the way, what are the current prices? Say, Pham Ngu Lao to Ben Ny? PNL to the Rex-Intercontinental hotels area? I have been quotes as high a 60 k for this short trip even though I am Asian, I must look like a dumb tourist! I succumbed to 30 k.

    Thanks
    There's no reason why you would not take an actual taxi in Saigon, that's ridiculous. You're safe from the heat and reckless motorbike drivers.

    60 k is reasonable, why would you haggle down to 30 k. Xe om needs to eat too.

  11. #390
    I hope this is the right section for SW and moto bike girls. Anyways,

    Generally what's the quality of moto bikes girls and SW? A 4 to 7? I don't need stunners really, especially when I am just down to bang, cause when I am banging I could really care less what her face or my face looks like. I just prefer skinny girls with some tits and ass, you know some eye candy. I am not looking for marriage so as long as she is not horrendously ugly I am happy.

  12. #389
    One of the main reasons why I would go to a hot toc is to eat pussy. From what I have heard and read online, some hot toc places, the girls go all nude and do allow you to touch and examine them.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanThief  [View Original Post]
    Really? Examination of the vagina? And I'm supposed to believe this is a serious question? Let's say the lighting is good enough for an examination. How are you going to proceed? Do you really think the girl is willing to spread her legs like some Japanese Porn? How is this not trolling? A Vietnamese girl? Examine her vagina.

  13. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by StrongBad  [View Original Post]
    What's the lighting like at hot tocs and blow and go, and cafe? Is the lighting bright enough for you to examine their vagina before you dine?
    Is this lighting bright enough for you to examine their vagina before you dine?
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  14. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by StrongBad  [View Original Post]
    What's the lighting like at hot tocs and blow and go, and cafe? Is the lighting bright enough for you to examine their vagina before you dine?
    Really? Examination of the vagina? And I'm supposed to believe this is a serious question? Let's say the lighting is good enough for an examination. How are you going to proceed? Do you really think the girl is willing to spread her legs like some Japanese Porn? How is this not trolling? A Vietnamese girl? Examine her vagina.

  15. #386
    Quote Originally Posted by GrassCutter2  [View Original Post]
    Need help to find out where an English guy can go to get some satisfaction without the stress.

    Cheers
    I had plenty of teasing from massage girls and they wanted stupid amounts of money for anything else so I went to Nguyen Phi Khanh street and went into a hoc toc where the girls are dressed in short orange dresses and they will sort.

    You out 400,000 vnd includes the table. Went there 3 times and no issues.

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