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  1. #754
    Quote Originally Posted by CoderDoug  [View Original Post]
    Ok so I'm going to focus this post specifically on NPK although I'll be posting more in the future..............
    What was the name / address of the shop? (Tip: always get a business card on a first visit).

    Did you converse in Vietnamese? No communication issues? Just let the girls wash you in the cubicles. Don't expect a massage.

    IMO girls do not like customers who are obviously drunk, unless they plan to rob them. If you have drunk a bit it's better to revisit a shop / girl who already knows you.

    I wouldn't take a girl who was sent to me in a room or who grabbed me as I walked in the door. If you choose from a line up you get a chance to evaluate each girl's reaction and make an educated guess as to their attitude. Simply request a line up, and if they won't provide one, walk.

    You probably should have gone down and demanded a replacement performer from the mama-san. Your friend was right to tell you to pay the 200 k, but no Vietnamese customer would have given them money for nothing but disrespect.

    In general, it seems to me that foreigners have a tougher time punting in Vietnam than in most other countries in the region. It's a commercial encounter. It's natural for them to try to get as much as they can for as little as they can give. When they encounter any weakness or lack of experience it's like pushing at an open door for them. Compare the interactions with tourists at Ben Thanh market. And consider how few tourists want to return to Vietnam.

    You are quite right about not being rushed. And walk. Practice walking away from transactions. Walk even when you see an attractive target. Make a polite excuse. You can always go back.

    Being 30 (although uglier than your brother) you can find a gem outwith the P4P arena, but it will take time. Younger Vietnamese guys have the same problem. Hence the market for the hot tocs.

    Also, not to cross threads, but I'd be interested in your experiences at 795 Ka Thy, taking a ST room and hanging around the elevator.

  2. #753

    NPK Horrible Experience.

    Ok so I'm going to focus this post specifically on NPK although I'll be posting more in the future.

    Long time philanderer, brand new to mongering. Few weeks ago I met a business guy who insisted I go with him to get a massage that had a happy ending. He paid because I said I'm not at a point where I have to directly pay for relations, plus I don't want to spend 2 million for something I can do myself (Minh Tham Hotel & Massage 206 Ba Thang Hai). Anyway I experienced it and decided that this is something I could do in the future cause it's more time / cost effective. Going out on dates with girls I've met through life (not working girls) ends up costing between 1 million to 2 million (dinner at a nice place and going out for drinks) with no guarantee I get what I want at the end. Anyway so I figured 400 k for a BBBJ wasn't so a bad idea considering I wouldn't have to talk to her again (I've got several girls that put out but want me to make commitments.).

    Anyway, I went out again with the business guy to Lush on LTT but had to go home early because I had a super important meeting this morning. I decided to say fuck it and checkout NPK cause it's a long the way home and I've been reading this forum like an addict for the past 3 weeks (since I decided P4 P wasn't as big an evil as I use to think after the experience at Minh Tham).

    Horrible Experience or stroke of bad luck?

    It's about 11:00 pm and I was pretty drunk and I walk in and directly ask the mama if this place included the "use of mouth" to which she said yes. No girls in sight but she promises the girl would be pretty. I ask her how much and she says 400 k so I agreed cause it just didn't seem like a ridiculous price compared to what the business guy paid for me to get a massage & HJ (1.75 million).

    She leads me up to the room and tells me to get comfortable and I go into the bathroom to wash off my junk. I know girls appreciate that so I want to make them happy so they give me better service. The girl comes in and asks me to undress to my undies which I do. Shittiest massage I've ever had. She was slapping my back. After about 5-10 minutes she asks me to turn around and then starts giving me a HJ while licking and kissing my chest. I let her do this for a few minutes cause I want he to get comfortable with me while we talk and I feel her up. She's still in her clothes but let's me roam. Anyway after a few moments I tell her I want her to use her mouth. She refuses and then I say this is what I want. She tells me I smell which I think get annoyed with because I know I don't (I directly washed myself while waiting for her so that this wouldn't be an issue after all.) After I go back and forth with her over whether or not she's going to do it I get the impression she's serious so immediately dress and walk down. The mamasan downstairs wants to know what's going on and the girl tells her that she did her "job" and that I got my "service. " Obviously I disagree adamantly and refuse to pay. She says I still have to pay 200 k for the room. After we spend about 5-10 minutes arguing about what's what I decide to call my friend and ask him what he thinks I should do. He says just pay it and be on your way (I didn't want to initially out of principle but at this point was annoyed and just wanted to go home.) I ended up paying 200 k for a 5-10 minute massage with a little roaming and not the service I directly asked for. I know 200 k isn't the end of the world but it definitely sucks being cheated when you directly told them what you wanted and didn't get it (remember I told her I was only interested in the BBJ upon walking in.).

    Take away for me is that you should ask them how much for the room, how much for the tip. I thought it was 100 k for the room and 300 k tip but she told me it's 200 k for the room regardless of whether or not I got what I wanted. This really annoyed me. Also I'd advise negotiating whether or not you can switch girls if she isn't up to your liking. Furthermore, I'd agree with one many previous people have said about not being rushed. I made this mistake too cause I was drunk and just wanted a quick service before going home and getting some sleep. Your power here is that they know there's dozens of other places within a short distance. Make sure you pull the mama / papasan aside before hand and tell them what you want or what you expect if it goes south (like with me).

    Now that I think about it, maybe I shouldn't have immediately dressed but instead have asked her to get someone else? What do you experienced guys think about what happened to me?

  3. #752

    Comments of a viet newbie

    Hello guys,

    Intro.

    Thank you for all your comments. Very helpful to get the first aid from specialists. So long time I didn't log into ISG, I m living in Thailand since few years where I get a nice gal. This is only my second visit in Vietnam, I'm checking out HCMC scene but not into spending millions vdn as I m here only for 2 weeks then back to Thai. It's funny I feel I m very familiar of this business and in the same time a real newbie haha.

    Cheap HJ.

    I want to share with you my reliable costs from October 2017, as I was a bit horny I just wanted to check around Bui Vien some massage parlors in the small alleys, there are dozens and dozens. All work the same, just search and find the girl you like, slim / young, to find one like this you won't need more than 30 mn in my opinion. Prices in those cheap shops are. For one hour of oil full body massage. From 150 k to 200 k (a bit less than hotel without the fucking random). Two remarks: first on the top of menus they write first with 1/2 hour, so be careful if you like one hour, second last night it was late around midnight a little thing of 40 kg bargain me hard 100 k for one hour so I said "you convinced me" haha. Then it's the same as everywhere, face down then up. I just wanted an HJ, my tip, flat tip I hope was 200 k, grabbing the gals everywhere, make her moaning, so guys you can use that amount. I don't think a westerner can give much less (starting with 1 m, then 700, then 500 and so on blabla.). I went few times to one girl and we got some good "feelings" she even offered me some food, so I m pretty sure 200 k was OK with her, so summarize guys for a quickly in D1 (if you are not into hotels style or wilder districts) 100 200+200, right now it's more 300 all included after few times. Of course I will check it out NPK, I counted 6 hot docs you can't miss it, papasans will greet you loud + 3 more in V Thị Syou.

    Long time relations.

    Viet gals are very sweet, not talking about hungry working girls. These days I'm starting to date a Viet girl I met in a coffee shop, I think such things are really possible here too but need some time for that and it's impossible if you get only few days. To compare with Thai GF relationships and see the way they handle their western BF.

    Question.

    Following up a old post, it was said Thiand Hồng hotel ("Arc en Ciel") on Tảand Đ street had a steamed room and massage, is this finish or still open? It look like it's over, someone can confirm it?

  4. #751

    Yep

    Agreed. Never ceases to amaze me who either overpay, tip unnecessarily, or both. All over Asia. The whole scene has been ruined over the last 20 years because of these jerks. The amount some people pay, they may as well just stay in their own country and use hookers there.

    Quote Originally Posted by MeoDen  [View Original Post]
    At a popular shop on NPK last week. I saw a Vietnamese guy pay with a 500 k and get 200 k change.

    As I understand it the local price is still 300 k, but all the shops I looked at hold out for 400 k now from foreigners (I've seen the cashiers hand the girls half I. E 200 k).

    Yet guys continue to 'tip on top' of whatever they're charged.

    300 k is still accepted at random BJ hot tocs I checked around town. No doubt Eddie was right, and locals there still pay 200 k at them, although I see them sometimes passing the girl and additional 20 k or 50 k as they leave.

    But NPK has been spoiled. And let an Old Hand tell you that as the price goes up so the level of service will deteriorate.

  5. #750
    I am in Danang.

    In Nguyen tat tranh exactly.

    I find a hoc toc with some girl pretty the listing announce massage.

    But it not look like they have a backroom.

    I ask to be shaved I nice girl shave me with finger of fay very nice and kind but not a word of English.

    The experience was perfect.

    I pay 10 K but I not dare ask for something else.

    Someone can tell me if all the hoc toc with massage girl offer special service or not?

  6. #749
    Quote Originally Posted by Matong36  [View Original Post]
    At NPK,

    Never ask 'how much?

    Choose girl, get CIM, pay 400 k, leave.
    But 400 k is ripoff buddy.

  7. #748

    Npk

    At NPK,

    Never ask 'how much?

    Choose girl, get CIM, pay 400 k, leave.

  8. #747
    Quote Originally Posted by SimplyTheBest  [View Original Post]
    Eddie is right but that was 2 years ago. Came back today and hit all the parlours there saying I paid 200 k last time. I even showed the card I had from last time. None would bulge from 400 anymore and some even dare to ask 500. F. k that! Thanks to all the stupid guys who ruined it for the rest of us.
    At a popular shop on NPK last week. I saw a Vietnamese guy pay with a 500 k and get 200 k change.

    As I understand it the local price is still 300 k, but all the shops I looked at hold out for 400 k now from foreigners (I've seen the cashiers hand the girls half I. E 200 k).

    Yet guys continue to 'tip on top' of whatever they're charged.

    300 k is still accepted at random BJ hot tocs I checked around town. No doubt Eddie was right, and locals there still pay 200 k at them, although I see them sometimes passing the girl and additional 20 k or 50 k as they leave.

    But NPK has been spoiled. And let an Old Hand tell you that as the price goes up so the level of service will deteriorate.

  9. #746
    Eddie is right but that was 2 years ago. Came back today and hit all the parlours there saying I paid 200 k last time. I even showed the card I had from last time. None would bulge from 400 anymore and some even dare to ask 500. F. k that! Thanks to all the stupid guys who ruined it for the rest of us.

  10. #745

    Ok

    Thanks Eddie, I'll keep that in mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by FastEddie48  [View Original Post]
    To Krum Lov.

    You newbie think you know last time I was at NPK 2 yr ago mamasan want me to paid upfront I told her no after, she ask for 400 k told her no I paid 200 k all the time I am Asian only my 2nd time there she say ok give the girl 50 k tip extra after and hand the front desk 200 k on my way out your guys over paid.

    Fast eddie 48.

  11. #744

    You think you know

    Quote Originally Posted by KrumLov  [View Original Post]
    Excellent report, thanks. Clear addresses, prices included, etc. I wish more people knew how to do this.
    To Krum Lov.

    You newbie think you know last time I was at NPK 2 yr ago mamasan want me to paid upfront I told her no after, she ask for 400 k told her no I paid 200 k all the time I am Asian only my 2nd time there she say ok give the girl 50 k tip extra after and hand the front desk 200 k on my way out your guys over paid.

    Fast eddie 48.

  12. #743

    Good one

    Excellent report, thanks. Clear addresses, prices included, etc. I wish more people knew how to do this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milongo811  [View Original Post]
    I recently was in Vietnam and was able to visit the hot tocs on Nguy and Phi Khanh. Well, actually one. Since I was going to be in Vietnam for 2-3 weeks, I thought I'd check out all of them. There are two entrances to the street on Nguy and Phi Khanh- from Vo Thi Sau and the second Tran Quang Khai / Nguyen Huu Cau. I started from the second entrance (Tran Quang Khai / Nguyen Huu Cau). There aren't any hot tocs until you get to Huyen Quang, I went to the first one on the right hand side which is right after the very popular com tam restaurant. When I went in, there were a few couches in a "you" shape and a couple girls there. One of them was young, mid-20's cute still in her pjs. Since she looked cute, I thought I'd try her out. The "rooms" are upstairs and you take a rickety ladder / stairway up. They've got about 4 rooms where the girls sleep and use for the clients.

    Please note, the rooms aren't that clean and there's about 2-3 feet gap from the top of the walls to the ceiling. Oh well, as long as I'm getting my dick sucked, I'll roll with it. After I've gotten naked, she comes in with wipes and starts to clean me. Before she starts, I pull her into me and start feeling her up. Holy shit! She had a nice firm rack and a nice tight ass hiding under her loose pjs. I start pulling her pjs off AND her panties with no objection. I start sliding along her pussy and she says, "no boom boom". Got it. Damn. After a little bit of grinding she squats down in front of me and starts sucking like a porn star. Playing with it, licking it's length, sucking on my balls, deep throating (6 inches) easily. After a good 5 minutes of this, I pull her off and lay down on the table and use hand signals to tell her I want to eat her out. She understands and we get into 69. Nice, wet, and tasty pussy. Mmm. We go on until I cum in her mouth. She makes sure she drains it. Holy fucking hell!

    She would have been fine without a tip, but I gave her $5 US. She was happy with the extra money. Once we were done, went down stairs and paid $400 K. The girl's split there is $100 K. And yes, locals only pay $200 K. The girl only gets $50 K for the local.

    I came back here a few times after (Ok, more than a few times, she was fucking amazing! There are about 5 girls who work there. Two that are cute in there mid-20's, Another that's a little on the chunky side, and two that act as the mamasan that are in their late 20's-early 30's. The two cute ones are both amazing cock suckers and I highly recommend them. After your done, the com tam restaurants around the area are great.

    Oh, forget about using standard taxis and download Grab or Uber and take motorbike taxis. It's so much cheaper and faster than any standard taxi.

  13. #742
    Thanks for your reply.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoneFishin  [View Original Post]
    Yes they did, forgot to mention that. Mine always sucked me dry before finishing. They may expect a tip for that. I always gave 100 k so total damage was 500 k.

  14. #741

    Nguy and Phi Khanh (NPK)

    I recently was in Vietnam and was able to visit the hot tocs on Nguy and Phi Khanh. Well, actually one. Since I was going to be in Vietnam for 2-3 weeks, I thought I'd check out all of them. There are two entrances to the street on Nguy and Phi Khanh- from Vo Thi Sau and the second Tran Quang Khai / Nguyen Huu Cau. I started from the second entrance (Tran Quang Khai / Nguyen Huu Cau). There aren't any hot tocs until you get to Huyen Quang, I went to the first one on the right hand side which is right after the very popular com tam restaurant. When I went in, there were a few couches in a "you" shape and a couple girls there. One of them was young, mid-20's cute still in her pjs. Since she looked cute, I thought I'd try her out. The "rooms" are upstairs and you take a rickety ladder / stairway up. They've got about 4 rooms where the girls sleep and use for the clients.

    Please note, the rooms aren't that clean and there's about 2-3 feet gap from the top of the walls to the ceiling. Oh well, as long as I'm getting my dick sucked, I'll roll with it. After I've gotten naked, she comes in with wipes and starts to clean me. Before she starts, I pull her into me and start feeling her up. Holy shit! She had a nice firm rack and a nice tight ass hiding under her loose pjs. I start pulling her pjs off AND her panties with no objection. I start sliding along her pussy and she says, "no boom boom". Got it. Damn. After a little bit of grinding she squats down in front of me and starts sucking like a porn star. Playing with it, licking it's length, sucking on my balls, deep throating (6 inches) easily. After a good 5 minutes of this, I pull her off and lay down on the table and use hand signals to tell her I want to eat her out. She understands and we get into 69. Nice, wet, and tasty pussy. Mmm. We go on until I cum in her mouth. She makes sure she drains it. Holy fucking hell!

    She would have been fine without a tip, but I gave her $5 US. She was happy with the extra money. Once we were done, went down stairs and paid $400 K. The girl's split there is $100 K. And yes, locals only pay $200 K. The girl only gets $50 K for the local.

    I came back here a few times after (Ok, more than a few times, she was fucking amazing! There are about 5 girls who work there. Two that are cute in there mid-20's, Another that's a little on the chunky side, and two that act as the mamasan that are in their late 20's-early 30's. The two cute ones are both amazing cock suckers and I highly recommend them. After your done, the com tam restaurants around the area are great.

    Oh, forget about using standard taxis and download Grab or Uber and take motorbike taxis. It's so much cheaper and faster than any standard taxi.
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  15. #740
    Quote Originally Posted by RoamingViking  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info, but could yu lease be a bit more specific with regard to exact location. I am planning a trip over Christmas and would like to check this place out. You can PM. Thanks a million.
    No need for specifics. Go to that road it is not very long and the places are scattered on both sides. Just walk up and down the road in my previous post. You can't miss them. There will be a guy sitting out front and an interior door you would enter. Don't worry they will call out to you.

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