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  1. #1043
    Quote Originally Posted by Pompetus  [View Original Post]
    *** The Chinese invented the compass. The West used it to explore the world while the Chinese hid behind a Great Wall. *** Ah but that is another story.
    Speaking of other stories, there are several interesting books written by Gavin Menzies (entitled 1421,1434, "Who Discovered America", etc) which offer substantial evidence that Chinese Admiral "Zheng Hei", in several voyages with massive flotillas, actually circumnavigated the earth a century before Ferdinand Magellan, and discovered America nearly a century before Columbus.

    Fascinating reading.

    OM.

    P.S. Some history books, written in English or other western languages, offer a rather western-centric view of history.

  2. #1042
    Interestingly, for what it's worth, in Forbes' 2016 listing of 10 wealthiest Filipino billionaires, 7 appear to be Chinoy taipans:

    1. Henry Sy.

    2. John Gokongwei, Jr.

    4. Lucio Tan.

    5. George Ty.

    6. Tony Tan Caktiong.

    9. David Consunji.

    10. Andrew Tan.

    The other 3 appear to be Spanish-Filipino grandees.

    OM.

    P.S. Hope the above names survive intact upon posting. I have "previewed" this post to verify correct spelling, but that cyber editor software program can sometimes be unpredictable!

  3. #1041

    China / Cory Aquino / Fire Crackers / Yankee Ingenuity

    Many recent posts on this thread have discussed the increase of Chinese in Angeles and the PI generally. However I believe that most of the Chinese tourists are not coming from mainland China but rather from Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore. We may be overestimating the significance of Chinese tourism as indicating a trend in geopolitical affiliations.

    The seeming pivot of DU30 towards China may reflect an implicit bargain in which the Philippines acquiesces to Chinese claims in the South China Sea in exchange for foreign aid. Thus the arrangement is as temporary as the affections of a barfined girl on Fields Avenue, "No money no honey. "

    The Chinese have had a long and often sorry history in the PI. In 1603 the Chinese were massacred by the thousands in Binondo, the Chinese quarter in Manila. More recently, Ferdinand Marcos reluctantly granted citizenship to a large number of stateless Chinese whose families had been in the PI for several generations. It was not a popular move. The Filipinos have no great love for the Chinese. That being said, Chinese blood runs in many Filipinos. Corazon Aquino's maiden name, Cojuangco, is the full Chinese name (Ko Huang Ko?) of one of her male antecedents.

    Some posters herein observe an increase in Chinese influence in the PI at the expense of the US. I am not observing that at all. The West is the role model of PI culture. It is as obvious as the lines of Green Card petitioners that encircle the embassy every working day. Nobody in the PI is yearning for an opportunity to make a new life in Kunming. California yes, Canton no.

    Don't underestimate Yankee ingenuity. Fracking, for example, like it or not, has made the US, the largest producer of oil in the world. The Chinese invented the compass. The West used it to explore the world while the Chinese hid behind a Great Wall. The Chinese invented gun powder and used it to make fire crackers while the West. Ah but that is another story.

  4. #1040
    Quote Originally Posted by ShiningWit  [View Original Post]
    I also find it hard to believe that an arrest on Monday would produce a conviction on Tuesday, which is what the article implies.
    Obviously de Lima's son is not very smart, or he'd have figured out to fly into Berlin rather than Frankfurt if he wanted to set up trade in Berlin. And carrying drugs into a German airport in that flimsy little handcarry bag in the photo: really dumb. But must commend the German authorities for having detained him in an airport "nearby" the Frankfurt airport on Monday and then getting him to some kind of detention hearing in Berlin, 550 km distant, on Tuesday. Clearly justice in Germany is swift, thanks to Judge "Davis" and all the other efficient German public servants. But seriously, should we take the authors here to be more stupid than Nigerian widows, or just blantantly more tongue-in-cheek?

  5. #1039
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    It could be, as it's getting ever harder to distinguish between the two. However, the story was not limited to this single venue, and has evidently been on the air as well (can't personally confirm this) so if it's fake, it's getting wide circulation. Of course I come from a country in which the president's advisor claims he's getting spied on my a microwave oven, so my judgment in these matters may be a little off. Maybe GCHQ planted the story?

    GE.
    As one of the commenters on the article noted, none of the 5 officials in the photo appear very Teutonic looking, and I find it hard to believe that 5 members of any German law enforcement agency would be walking round in polo shirts, let alone wearing a lanyard inscribed 'Bureau of' something. So there is certainly little connection between the photo and the article.

    I also find it hard to believe that an arrest on Monday would produce a conviction on Tuesday, which is what the article implies. Thinking about it, though, it might be instructive to former Justice Secretary de Lima that court cases can be handled with that degree of expedition!

  6. #1038
    Quote Originally Posted by SoapySmith  [View Original Post]
    I suspect OM is correct. Germany, like other Western countries, is unlikely to "detain" anybody for life. I can't imagine that a life sentence in Germany can occur without a trial. "Detention" usually implies a pretrial action. The wording here is in a league with the Nigerian widow whose sudden inheritance cannot be secured without your assistance--and identity information.
    It could be, as it's getting ever harder to distinguish between the two. However, the story was not limited to this single venue, and has evidently been on the air as well (can't personally confirm this) so if it's fake, it's getting wide circulation. Of course I come from a country in which the president's advisor claims he's getting spied on my a microwave oven, so my judgment in these matters may be a little off. Maybe GCHQ planted the story?

    GE.

  7. #1037
    Quote Originally Posted by Pompetus  [View Original Post]
    BTW did you recognize the lyrics in the title?
    Pomp,

    From the same folks who brought us, "Break on through / to the other side". Oops, my age is showing.

    OM.

    P.S. Reportedly, Jim Morrison had an IQ of 150? Once walked by his grave site in Paris. He did not appear. So much for high IQ, fame, Ozymandias, power, etc. Ha ha.

  8. #1036

    Cxl my subscription to the resurrection. Send my credentials to the hse of detention

    Quote Originally Posted by SoapySmith  [View Original Post]
    "Detention" usually implies a pretrial action.
    Pretrial detention implies pretrial action. Detention can also follow a conviction. Germany may have a summary procedure for certain situations which does not require a trial. Remember that the hallmark of the American judicial system is an extreme mistrust of government (rooted in the experience of being a colony of England) and thus a trial by a jury of one's peers is the standard of American due process. This may not be the case in other jurisdictions.

    BTW did you recognize the lyrics in the title?

  9. #1035
    Quote Originally Posted by Omega3  [View Original Post]
    GE,

    Don't be taken in by "Fake news"! This "article", among many others, is fiction, and not fact.

    OM.
    I suspect OM is correct. Germany, like other Western countries, is unlikely to "detain" anybody for life. I can't imagine that a life sentence in Germany can occur without a trial. "Detention" usually implies a pretrial action. The wording here is in a league with the Nigerian widow whose sudden inheritance cannot be secured without your assistance--and identity information.

  10. #1034
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    To change the subject back to the Philippines, and away from conspiracy theories and more toward fact, some might find the following interesting: http://www.dailynewsph.info/2017/01/...tenced-to.html.

    GE.
    GE,

    Don't be taken in by "Fake news"! This "article", among many others, is fiction, and not fact.

    OM.

  11. #1033
    Quote Originally Posted by DCups  [View Original Post]
    The only conspiracies are the ones you babble about: democrats unwillingness to admit and accept defeat. Now you say they are resorting to shrinks to make their case. Fascinating.

    .
    To change the subject back to the Philippines, and away from conspiracy theories and more toward fact, some might find the following interesting: http://www.dailynewsph.info/2017/01/...tenced-to.html.

    GE.

  12. #1032

    Impeachment & Francisco

    A trifecta of recent op-ed articles in Manila Times provides fascinating "behind-the scenes glimpses" (at least, to this old expat) of certain aspects of politics in the Philippines.

    The first article, by Francisco Tatad, entitled "Impeaching the Ombudsman" (and published just the day before the recent impeachment complaint was filed against President Duterte) ostensibly pertains to Conchita Carpio Morales, former Supreme Court Justice and carry-over current Ombudsman originally appointed by NoyNoy in 2011, who, according to the article, seems quite partial to certain Yellow Party members. Here is the link to the article: http://www.manilatimes.net/impeachin...udsman/317279/.

    According to the article, under the precedent of "Francisco v. House of Representatives", once an impeachment is dismissed for lack of sufficiency, a public official can no longer be subjected to any other impeachment complaint for one year. This article suggested that, as a tactical ploy, the Ombudsman, Conchita Carpio Morales, could cause a "defective" impeachment complaint to be filed against her before anyone else does. Then, apparently, under this precedent, once the impeachment complaint is dismissed for insufficiency, Ombudsman Carpio Morales could no longer be subjected to any other impeachment complaint for one year.

    Very interesting, and, in light of the events of the past few days, makes one wonder if this precedent would also apply to impeachment complaints against the President? So, went online and located Francisco v. House of Representatives. For those who might be interested, here is the link: http://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri...0261_2003.html.

    Francisco was a 2003 opinion of the Philippines Supreme Court, written by (none other than) J. Carpio Morales. The case reviewed the (current) 1987 Constitution, Article XI Section 3 (5) of which provides, "No impeachment proceedings shall be initiated against the same official more than once within a period of one year".

    Given this, one must think further about the possible ramifications of the impeachment complaint just filed against Du30 by Magdalo Representative Gary Alejano. The complainant, Alejano, was a Philippines marine who, with fellow-mutineer and buddy, Senator Antonio ("Sonny") Trillanes and a few others, reportedly was part of the 2003 "Oakwood mutiny". In this incident, a relatively small group of mostly junior-grade military officers briefly occupied what is now the Ascott Makati tower in Ayala (at least, they were comfortably billeted for their short-lived mutiny) reportedly as a first step in their planned coup to overthrow the government of then-president Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo. Within 18 hours, and without any appreciable popular support, the coup reportedly collapsed.

    Although the impeachment complaint almost certainly was intended to cause domestic and international bad press and problems for President Duterte, could Alejano, possibly aided and abetted by Trillanes, have undertaken an ostensible or intended adverse action which actually could result in helping Du30? In other words, if the impeachment complaint is dismissed by the House of Representatives for insufficiency, then, under Francisco v. HR, would President Duterte effectively be insulated from any further impeachment complaints for a period of one year?

    Interesting possibilities.

    As Sun Tzu observed, "All warfare is based on deception".

    OM.

  13. #1031
    The only conspiracies are the ones you babble about: democrats unwillingness to admit and accept defeat. Now you say they are resorting to shrinks to make their case. Fascinating.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    n conspiracy theories. The rest of us will continue to express misgivings about the White House sociopath, not that a full Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins would know anything about it: http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/27/johns-hopkins-top-psychotherapist-releases-terrifying-diagnosis-of-president-trump/

    GE.
    .

  14. #1030
    Soapy, I don't think that the rumblings about Duterte are anything more than a slight tremor, and I doubt his presidency is in any danger of imminent collapse. For one thing, the 6 billion loan from China is about to become quite visible in the rural heartland, and will be used for extensive small agricultural projects that will benefit farmers directly. So, there will soon be quite visible benefits throughout large stretches of the countryside, and the support of smallholder farmers will remain rock solid. For another, the widely publicized drug killings and busts have virtually disappeared from the headlnes, and all that's occurring now is the usual soap opera of Philippines politics.

    DCups, go back to Breitbart and immerse yourself in conspiracy theories. The rest of us will continue to express misgivings about the White House sociopath, not that a full Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins would know anything about it: http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/27/johns-hopkins-top-psychotherapist-releases-terrifying-diagnosis-of-president-trump/

    GE.

  15. #1029
    Quote Originally Posted by GoodEnough  [View Original Post]
    I do agree however, that China's star is on the rise, and its growing influence is not limited to Asia. China's influence is growing rapidly in various parts of Africa and Latin America as well, due to its willingness to provide massive soft loans related largely to the improvement of infrastructure. The US and, for the most part, the European Union have shunned for decades the sort of large infrastructure projects being enthusiastically supported by China and improved infrastructure is exactly what many developing countries require. Conversely, US assistance--aside from military aid--has for years been tied to "internal reforms" meaning mimicry of US democratic institutions. Chinese aid is not and China--in my opinion quite wisely--doesn't seek to meddle in the internal affairs of the countries it assists, avoiding the trap of self-righteous moralizing. With the recent formation of the Asian Infrastructure Bank, founded by China and supported by US European allies, Chinese influence will continue to grow, not only in Asia but in various regions of the world far removed geographically from China. US and indeed most Western bilateral aid focuses, largely with no success, on the softer, reformation of institutions, and produces little to no tangible outcomes that improve the lives of most people in the developing world.
    ...

    GE.
    For a damning critique of US International "assistance", read John Perkins' Confessions of an Economic Hitman.

    References to the counter arguments may be found in Wikipedia.

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