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  1. #10276
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Problem is, GT girls are opposite of bein. At least 95%. LOL.
    For me GT is too much of battle ground where more guys than girls, so I use recovery to seek the next session girl to walk in.

    It is hard club to catch girl that you want, so one need to be alert.

  2. #10275
    Quote Originally Posted by VitoCorleone  [View Original Post]
    I generally travel solo & I like checking out the talent during recovery time. If you're expecting excitement like the "turn down for what" video then maybe samya is the best club for recovery entertainment.
    True, samya is nice. The relax room has the best beds also for a nap. Problem is just that you may even sleep better in those than in your hotel bed, so you can oversleep the nap. But that's a good thing I suppose.

    The bad thing with Samya is that sometimes the place has a bad smell. I don't know if it is sweat or what, but the entire club smells bad sometimes. Another downside is that most girls there in general are not as sexy as in some other clubs. And the lineup can be a bit shaky. I have been there 7 or 8 times now, and I only have like 2-3 girls I really want to repeat with, and that feels a bit low. And Irene (ex Oceans who later went to Wellcum) who I was also considering also has left apparently. There are too many 6's and 7's at Samya. Or maybe lower 8's. So if like me, you are very choosy on girls, it can be tricky to hit your favourites on a busy night. And that can lead to a little boring day. One or two pretty girls I have met there once, I also did not see again later. So it looses top girls for some reason, even though the place is probably the highest earning club in nrw based on a rough visitor count by yours truly.

  3. #10274
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I like the sound of the Hammam massage in Mondial.
    Hammamdulillah P48! I do 3 hammams a week. And it gets pretty hot and heavy in there! One advantage is that I don't need to bother to shower in the morning any more. Another is that girls don't like to bring condoms into a wet room.

    Here in FKK Beyond.

  4. #10273
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Problem is, GT girls are opposite of being [CodeWord900]. At least 95%. LOL.
    That's why the guy was reading the magazine LOL!

  5. #10272
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Just a quick post of gratitude for the responses from Vito Corleone, Pistons and Samson Monger. Food for thought. YY sounds like my kind of club. Not sure about Aca! My guess is I'm restricting myself badly by using public transport and I know lots of guys drive. But I won't drink and drive and I like to have some beers in the clubs. Without it I end up picking one decent girl, doing 90 minutes and leaving after a pop. I just cannot stand the boredom of doing nothing whilst recovering. If I have a few beers I'm much better able to have several rooms etc. As the beer of course is an inhibitor to cumming! I don't get wasted (waste of money) but not having a beer at all is a shame. But I guess I need to trade that off against getting to see new clubs. Or returning to the old favourites. Mainhattan deinitely off my list after this last visit. It was truly awful. I like the sound of the Hammam massage in Mondial. I believe there is a gym at YY? I'the like that as I like to use the one in Artemis before any sessions and obviously before the beers!

    Thanks again for sharing the options. Very helpful.
    If you prefer to drink beer then forget Aca. I believe 5 a beer & limit to 4 total. GT all you can grab YY free draft beer. I've read LR experiencing some issues with alcohol so currently 50 entry but no alcohol.

    YY has a nice relax area only for clients. No girls bugging you for a room.

    I generally travel solo & I like checking out the talent during recovery time. If you're expecting excitement like the "turn down for what" video then maybe samya is the best club for recovery entertainment.

  6. #10271
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    I can see a gentleman reading book like http://isgprohibitedwords.info?inthemainbarsofaareaofGoldentimeBruggenLOL.
    Problem is, GT girls are opposite of being [CodeWord900]. At least 95%. LOL.

  7. #10270
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Just a quick post of gratitude for the responses from Vito Corleone, Pistons and Samson Monger. Food for thought. YY sounds like my kind of club. Not sure about Aca! My guess is I'm restricting myself badly by using public transport and I know lots of guys drive. But I won't drink and drive and I like to have some beers in the clubs. Without it I end up picking one decent girl, doing 90 minutes and leaving after a pop. I just cannot stand the boredom of doing nothing whilst recovering. If I have a few beers I'm much better able to have several rooms etc. As the beer of course is an inhibitor to cumming! I don't get wasted (waste of money) but not having a beer at all is a shame. But I guess I need to trade that off against getting to see new clubs. Or returning to the old favourites. Mainhattan deinitely off my list after this last visit. It was truly awful. I like the sound of the Hammam massage in Mondial. I believe there is a gym at YY? I'the like that as I like to use the one in Artemis before any sessions and obviously before the beers!

    Thanks again for sharing the options. Very helpful.
    I do pubic transport and taxi as I often smoke in club, I may quit this because as much it feels so good to cum, I do not remember most part after as THC cancel out my memory beside it happened, it was beautiful and some crazy thing in big smoke LOL I like to remember so I may stop smoking during FKK trip which is only time I do this actually.

    Maybe take book or porn magazine or something during recovery time? I can see a gentleman reading book like [CodeWord901] in the main bar sofa area of Golden time Bruggen LOL.

  8. #10269
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Just a quick post of gratitude for the responses from Vito Corleone, Pistons and Samson Monger. Food for thought. YY sounds like my kind of club. Not sure about Aca! My guess is I'm restricting myself badly by using public transport and I know lots of guys drive. But I won't drink and drive and I like to have some beers in the clubs. Without it I end up picking one decent girl, doing 90 minutes and leaving after a pop. I just cannot stand the boredom of doing nothing whilst recovering. If I have a few beers I'm much better able to have several rooms etc. As the beer of course is an inhibitor to cumming! I don't get wasted (waste of money) but not having a beer at all is a shame. But I guess I need to trade that off against getting to see new clubs. Or returning to the old favourites. Mainhattan deinitely off my list after this last visit. It was truly awful. I like the sound of the Hammam massage in Mondial. I believe there is a gym at YY? I'the like that as I like to use the one in Artemis before any sessions and obviously before the beers!

    Thanks again for sharing the options. Very helpful.
    No gym in YY but a wellness center with a small indoor pool, jacuzzi, sauna, steam bath and a larger outdoor pool. I've never been in the outdoor pool but I'm told it's not heated.

  9. #10268

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by VitoCorleone  [View Original Post]
    Over a month ago I had a great time at GT Aca & YY. Aca can be strange the first time. Feels like checking out hot chicks in a graveyard!
    Just a quick post of gratitude for the responses from Vito Corleone, Pistons and Samson Monger. Food for thought. YY sounds like my kind of club. Not sure about Aca! My guess is I'm restricting myself badly by using public transport and I know lots of guys drive. But I won't drink and drive and I like to have some beers in the clubs. Without it I end up picking one decent girl, doing 90 minutes and leaving after a pop. I just cannot stand the boredom of doing nothing whilst recovering. If I have a few beers I'm much better able to have several rooms etc. As the beer of course is an inhibitor to cumming! I don't get wasted (waste of money) but not having a beer at all is a shame. But I guess I need to trade that off against getting to see new clubs. Or returning to the old favourites. Mainhattan deinitely off my list after this last visit. It was truly awful. I like the sound of the Hammam massage in Mondial. I believe there is a gym at YY? I'the like that as I like to use the one in Artemis before any sessions and obviously before the beers!

    Thanks again for sharing the options. Very helpful.

  10. #10267
    Quote Originally Posted by VitoCorleone  [View Original Post]
    Aca can be strange the first time. Feels like checking out hot chicks in a graveyard!
    LOL. This is very creative writing to describe the scene. LOL.

  11. #10266
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    The concerns arise where there is exploitation, in the same way as when I buy an expensive item made in a Bangladesh factory or a Chinese prison. It is very difficult to deal with especially as there is a huge grey area.
    Salaam Aleikum Optimist! If you get a T-shirt made in a Chinese prison, then you don't have to come face-to-face with the prisoner, let alone have sex with her. So if you were looking at it from a purely selfish perspective, it wouldn't make any difference. The product you get is pretty much the same.

    It's different with FKKs. I remember my days walking around Aca Velbert, thinking, "90% of these girls are robots!" So the challenge was always not just to find the pretty girls but to find the "real" girls.

    And I don't mean to portray these girls as victims because most of them don't act at all like victims. But does it make a difference if they have pimps whispering in their ears, "Don't kiss the customer, don't tell him X, don't tell him Z, lie about your origins, don't tell him how you got here, don't tell him we had this conversation, etc, etc"? Yes, it makes a difference! It crawls all over the girl's personality and makes any personal connection impossible. Which is, really, the point.

    That is why I go for the independents. Clearly there is a lot of motivation for a girl to pretend to be independent when she is not (including escorts), but if a guy has a good sense of quality he can feel the difference.

  12. #10265
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    Yes, RLDs, FKKs, Laufhauses, same recruitment pool. Girls switch between places and between countries.

    I know a girl in a Laufhaus in Bavaria whose sister works at FKK World. She herself dislikes FKKs, so she says, because FKKs imply BBBJs and she only does CBJs.

    Some girls are less social and prefer a Laufhaus or a Club rather than an FKK.

    On the whole girls have 10 times more mobility and choice of venue than afforded by most normal jobs. Of course SJWs will twist this into proof of trafficking ("girls ordered hither and thither by pimps", "girls mere pieces on a chessboard" etc.).
    Yes. As many have said, there must be some level of organisation otherwise how are girls from Romanian small towns going to start their new job in Germany. In some ways no different to employment agencies for any kind of job.

    The concerns arise where there is exploitation, in the same way as when I buy an expensive item made in a Bangladesh factory or a Chinese prison. It is very difficult to deal with especially as there is a huge grey area.

    People with fixed hostile agendas use the idea of organisation to equal trafficking. This is clearly conflating two different things. Trafficking or exploitation needs some level of organisation, but organisation does not equal trafficking or exploitation (unless one accepts the view that all forms of employment everywhere equals exploitation).

    A few years ago a Government report calculated the number of trafficked women in my country by counting the percentage of Romanians and Bulgarians in a few brothels, giving a percentage about 95%, and then said the number of trafficked prostitutes was 95% of the total. The proponents then proposed a ban on prostitution. Fortunately the conflation of trafficking and prostitution was so ridiculed that the law never passed itsmost preliminary stage.

  13. #10264
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    The German government is blameworthy: while pretending to be against pimping, it has greatly strengthened the power of the shadowy middlemen by stopping the FKKs from setting their own rules, thus driving the "management" underground. Something analogous has been going on in the US with the suppression of sites like backpage. Independents suffer, so we mongers also suffer.
    I don't share that opinion. Pimping has no relation to stopping clubs from setting rules for the girls.

    There's an easy legal solution: Girls get employed by the clubs. That's legal. If they are employees the employer can set all the rules. But he has to pay social benefits plus taxes. And the girls would have to do the same. Not really their interest. So it sticks to the freelancer model with all its implications.

  14. #10263
    I haven't been in Finca since last November but there was no problem with "service as before".

  15. #10262
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Ok guys, so I fairly regularly post long reports on my experiences in FKKs. Only this weekend a report on Paradise / Oase and Mainhattan.

    In about a month's time I have 4 nights before I arrive in Frankfurt. I'm putting out a request for some advice on where to go. I've done all the main clubs Sharks / Oase / Mainhattan / Palace / World / Samya / LR / Oceans / Paradise / Sakura / Artemis / Harmony / Atmos / LR / Sunshine many times.

    I'm wondering if I should venure to 4 new clubs on 4 consecutive days and wanted to ask where you think I should try on those 4 days before ending up in Frankfurt.

    Thanks.
    Over a month ago I had a great time at GT Aca & YY. Aca can be strange the first time. Feels like checking out hot chicks in a graveyard!

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