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  1. #8657
    Quote Originally Posted by Sybarite2006  [View Original Post]
    an exquisite model face (long, straight nose, slender delicate features) and her body was slender and oh so tall with legs that went on for miles and a waist I could put my hands around completely!
    Sounds like a 6 or a 7.

  2. #8656
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlow  [View Original Post]
    Well, all I will say is that the Germans have a new code word and it is (translated) 'accent free French'. Don't think it needs me to explain that! As the German sites all forbid any mention of AO, this is the way they get around it.
    Until now (at the latest).

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlow  [View Original Post]
    The law is pretty stupid, she can't BBBJ you but you can lick her out to your heart's content.
    Whatever you think of the law, the intent is to protect the girls, not the punters.

  3. #8655
    Quote Originally Posted by Neurosynth  [View Original Post]
    How does that happen? How is evidence gathered? Cops hiding in the rooms?
    Haven't you been reading anything here? They are hiding under the mattresses. Duh!

  4. #8654
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlow  [View Original Post]
    Don't talk about it, as the cops trawl these sites regularly, ever this one.
    Even if that was true (as if we know more about what is going on than the local cops) so what? Describe to me the scenario where a German cop says "OMG. Der AO continues!" and it ends with you being arrested. Or the place gets shut down. How does that happen? How is evidence gathered? Cops hiding in the rooms? Naked female cops that take guys to a room as fake providers? Rooms outfitted with video surveillance and cops executing a massive violation of privacy?

    It's just not going to happen. The one way AO might be diminished is if false fears become entrenched. So why contribute to that?

  5. #8653
    Quote Originally Posted by Marlow  [View Original Post]
    But I would advocate the German approach to this issue.
    The first rule of Fight Club.

  6. #8652
    Quote Originally Posted by SvenFKK  [View Original Post]
    You can't be forced to testify against yourself. However, you can certainly admit to committing the crime (and probably get a lighter sentence than if you don't cooperate). The prosecution can, I believe, ask for you to be sworn in. You can refuse, but that doesn't look good. If you are sworn in, then lying under oath is a serious offence.
    I really wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I detect near panic on this forum certainly angst but I have not yet discovered reasonable grounds for it.

  7. #8651
    Quote Originally Posted by SvenFKK  [View Original Post]
    Maybe because this could be seen as encouraging breaking the law? Or maybe because it would be an incentive for the state to make sure that the maximum fine is levied?

    It is illegal to insure against punishment for crimes.
    You know guys, the Germans aren't as phased about this law as folk on this forum. The German forums had no discussion of it before July 1st. Whether the law works or not is a mute point. Spoken to a couple of my German colleagues who frequent FKK clubs and they are quite happy, so read that as you want. Sure in bordellos etc the law is applied strictly. But I would advocate the German approach to this issue. Don't talk about it, as the cops trawl these sites regularly, ever this one.

  8. #8650

    Condoning the condom

    Quote Originally Posted by AllForBb  [View Original Post]
    If condom comes off (or slips off into the pussy) during the sex and no one notice before finishing, is that against the new law?
    Well, all I will say is that the Germans have a new code word and it is (translated) 'accent free French'. Don't think it needs me to explain that! As the German sites all forbid any mention of AO, this is the way they get around it. The law is pretty stupid, she can't BBBJ you but you can lick her out to your heart's content.

  9. #8649
    Quote Originally Posted by Sybarite2006  [View Original Post]
    So I saw this girl in real life today who is the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. To put it into perspective all the girls I've rated as 10 on here from 10 years of mongering must all slip down to 9 by comparison for looks- even Marie was average compared to her! I actually started a conversation with her using the 'I'm a lost tourist' line with a view to getting her number (I'm younger than most people in an FKK) but I didn't sustain her interest but she was incredible. I'm not joking but she actually walked into a modelling agency which was nearby after our conversation! She was from Brazil. OMG! As Kaveman says on the Zurich forum once you have spotted a real 10/11 you just know!! Fuck me she was perfect.

    Dark hair, an exquisite model face (long, straight nose, slender delicate features) and her body was slender and oh so tall with legs that went on for miles and a waist I could put my hands around completely! There was another beautiful blonde at the model agency too I saw nearby but this Brazilian girl was on a different level. Now if Aphrodisia or Globe has these kind of girls! (But this is the kind of girl that top footballers / billionaires date and they don't work in FKKs or even Aphrodisia!

    But I have seen a few of them on Seeking Arrangement. They typically want a 1000 just to meet and between 5 K and 10 K a month (euro) to fuck. ! I met one of them in Casablanca. A French Moroccan but didn't have sex as her price was too high. And I'm willing to give her 3 K US but she wanted a 1000 USD just for the meeting!

    This girl I saw today I'd give her 5 K. For an hour!
    Well if you are lucky then you get to fuck her for merely 50 euro per 30 min or with bit of upsell in german FKK LOL.

    I mean, you do find high end escort girls walking in time to time. They usually upsell with longer hour and some extra often, but outcome is most of times real solid and unforgettable!

  10. #8648

    10's

    So I saw this girl in real life today who is the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. To put it into perspective all the girls I've rated as 10 on here from 10 years of mongering must all slip down to 9 by comparison for looks- even Marie was average compared to her! I actually started a conversation with her using the 'I'm a lost tourist' line with a view to getting her number (I'm younger than most people in an FKK) but I didn't sustain her interest but she was incredible. I'm not joking but she actually walked into a modelling agency which was nearby after our conversation! She was from Brazil. OMG! As Kaveman says on the Zurich forum once you have spotted a real 10/11 you just know!! Fuck me she was perfect.

    Dark hair, an exquisite model face (long, straight nose, slender delicate features) and her body was slender and oh so tall with legs that went on for miles and a waist I could put my hands around completely! There was another beautiful blonde at the model agency too I saw nearby but this Brazilian girl was on a different level. Now if Aphrodisia or Globe has these kind of girls! (But this is the kind of girl that top footballers / billionaires date and they don't work in FKKs or even Aphrodisia!

    But I have seen a few of them on Seeking Arrangement. They typically want a 1000 just to meet and between 5 K and 10 K a month (euro) to fuck. ! I met one of them in Casablanca. A French Moroccan but didn't have sex as her price was too high. And I'm willing to give her 3 K US but she wanted a 1000 USD just for the meeting!

    This girl I saw today I'd give her 5 K. For an hour!

  11. #8647
    Yes, of course.

    That excuse will not do.

  12. #8646

    If condom comes off (slips off) during sex

    If condom comes off (or slips off into the pussy) during the sex and no one notice before finishing, is that against the new law?

  13. #8645
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilink  [View Original Post]
    I understand that prosecution for BBBJ is only a minor offence similar to a parking or speeding ticket. However the fine of 50,000 is scary. . I believe the sex industry has an organisation to represent them. Why dos't the industry levy their members with a charge and say they will pay the fine for the first person successfully prosecuted up to 50,000.
    Maybe because this could be seen as encouraging breaking the law? Or maybe because it would be an incentive for the state to make sure that the maximum fine is levied?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilink  [View Original Post]
    Alternatively some enterprising insurance company could insure against the fine for what I believe could be a low charge. Or a gambling / betting company offer very good ods on you being prosecuted fined say over 1000. Where are all the lateral thinkers?
    It is illegal to insure against punishment for crimes.

  14. #8644
    Quote Originally Posted by RogueNation  [View Original Post]
    The only thing FKK clubs and the original FKK movement have in common is nudity.
    Right. "FKK" has become a synonym for "nudist", both in FKK sport clubs, nudist swims, etc.

  15. #8643
    Quote Originally Posted by UltraHappy  [View Original Post]
    "German procedures against self-incrimination are equal to, or perhaps even stronger than, American standards. However, unlike in America, "most German defendants waive their right to remain silent. " On the one hand, this may be a cultural difference bolstered by the atmosphere and customs of a German trial. But there is also a procedural distinction that underpins the difference: defendants in Germany are allowed to give unsworn statements at trial, and they cannot be held criminally liable for these statements. ".

    Source: http://www.eur.army.mil/aepubs/docs/CLS-Germany.pdf.

    I find it interesting that the German court supposedly cannot hold a defendant criminally liable for their own statements. In the States, many Defendants are convicted solely based on their own testimony.
    You can't be forced to testify against yourself. However, you can certainly admit to committing the crime (and probably get a lighter sentence than if you don't cooperate). The prosecution can, I believe, ask for you to be sworn in. You can refuse, but that doesn't look good. If you are sworn in, then lying under oath is a serious offence.

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