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  1. #3399
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    Hessen Bub
    It is not enforced in Bavaria. Been to various FKKs, all girls in all clubs did BBBJ and most of them offered CIM.

    Actually quite a lot of apartments in Bavaria (Nuremberg) with AO offers.

    HB.

  2. #3398

    I miss FKK

    Haven't been back here for a while.

    Nice to see so many familiar members are still actively contributing here.

    After traveling around, working around, having sex vacations around, I am now back to my motherland, trying to figure out what I to do with my future.

    (I am from Taiwan, by the way. So, if any one ever have a chance to visit Taiwan, I would love to show you around and mongering around. Haha.).

    I really miss FKK and the life in Germany.

    Recently, I was in a bar full of Westerners, which reminds me of the scene in the bar in the FKK clubs, and I mistook the scene for the FKK clubs.

    It's true. I was hitting on women randomly, some of which were nice enough to have some chats with me, and I almost said "Okay, let's go to the room!" in the end of our conversations. Fortunately, my brain stopped me from doing this in time, or I would be seen as a pervert or something.

    Damn it, I really have to work harder and figure our more ways to enable myself to approach the FKK clubs more easily.

    Good luck to you all, fellow mongers / punters.

    Have fun!

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    SwingerLover

    Condom by-laws in Bavaria and Saarland

    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus1  [View Original Post]
    Willi is right. The law covers Bavaria only.
    It's not a law, but only a by-law (which means that a violation is only a misdemeanor) and 'covers' Bavaria and the Saarland. From what I hear, controls in the Saarland are beyond ridiculous.

  4. #3396
    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus1  [View Original Post]
    Willi is right. The law covers Bavaria only.
    Where "covers" is definitely the right term. LOL.

    BTW not sure how much the rule is respected. I only tried a club in that area, Colosseum in Augsburg, years ago, and no girl even tried to use a condom for BJ.

    Kimino.

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    Hessen Bub
    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus1  [View Original Post]
    Willi is right. The law covers Bavaria only.
    Actually it does also cover the "Saarland". Both (Bavaria and Saarland) are not Germany.

    HB.

  6. #3394

    Bavaria vs Germany

    Willi is right. The law covers Bavaria only.

  7. #3393
    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus1  [View Original Post]
    To bring German FKK beauties to he USA for a porn shoot? Good luck, sir. They will rather hop on a plane to Dubai on their ow devices, enjoy shopping and architecture and earn home the travel cost by offering themselves in the clubs, a mechanism that is by factors less efficient than the German FKK mechanism. Oh those Germans.
    Well I guess it was pure luck that I found one who wanted to just move to the USA To get away from it all. Terrible family, friends that aren't really friends, and a whole lot of other problems! Anyway, I asked for help but I get I get a lot of these kinds of messages. I was hoping someone in here was a lawyer or immigration lawyer but I guess not. I guess that's okay.

    Thanks for all your help, those who really help!

  8. #3392

    Princesses

    Smart reply, Faceless. I cannot vouch for 30 000 EUR a month, it is just hearsay. But your calculations come close, don't they. Probably in a month with big exhibitions / fairs. Then, and this I know for a fact, there are crazy high rollers who book a private suite and a top princess who is willing to do anal, CIM, CIF for 10 h and hand her 3 000 EUR. She has to service 3 - 4 guys who are invited to the party. Oh well. I am personally not clear whether I find that behavior (if a slim, very pretty, very young girl aggressively markets anal and CIF to raise the hourly rate to 300 EUR) banditry or heroism. It is awesomely pleasure some and if done properly harmless. But, of course, it can ruin a lesser man and it can addict the princess to the sex trade for a decade, if such money can be made she will never get the bordello out of her system until her attractiveness wanes for new talent shows up.

  9. #3391
    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus1  [View Original Post]
    Intercourse in the context of sex for money, however, is only legal in Germany with a condom.
    Where did you read this? Only in Bavaria, a smaller part of Germany, a condom in mandatory, even at a BJ.

  10. #3390
    Thanks to Mr. Philosophus, you do answer some long last questions for me. But how to define a real FKK princess? It's not rare to spot young girls with face and body and personality and service, but princess? Last year I know a girl who's is real nice in all respects, performs anal, CIM, every time made my hour-rate to 200-300 euros. Her friends call her "shark in the tank", because she takes all the customers, but she didn't even make 20,000 per month. 30,000 per month, assume one day off per week, it's about 25 working days, which is 1200 per day. Yet 2 days in weekends usually make more than half of the earnings of the total week, so at a common Friday or Saturday, she should make around 2000. Even if every man will do both anal and CIM and stay only half hour to maximum the efficiency, she needs to take 10 customers in this kind, which is little bit unusual. Maybe I haven't met a real princess yet LOL.

    And sometimes I do wonder how some overly weight or ugly girls survive in the club, other girls say, as you mentioned, they don't make money. Once I met a girl in Oase, she's very normal and not popular by all means, makes almost no money, like you said. But I happened to become her "friend" through some accidentally conversations. But I never took her. One night, I was about to leave, found her crying in a corner of the garden. I asked why, she said she didn't even make the money to cover the entrance fee. I felt bad to see a girl crying so I gave her that. However, days later, she came to me before close time and asked for money directly, to balance her cost. I was shocked and I felt it was stupid. So I refused, then we never talked again.

  11. #3389
    Quote Originally Posted by NilleCopenhagen  [View Original Post]
    Why would a FKK girl go into porn and fuck without condoms?
    For the same reason why they make extras, AO included. For more money. Some FKK girls even move to AO clubs.
    For example, Grimberg's Katy, Romantika's Lisa and Sara, they previously worked in normal FKKs.

  12. #3388

    Misconceptions

    Sex for money is legal in Germany. Intercourse in the context of sex for money, however, is only legal in Germany with a condom. This stems from legislation containing contagious diseases. The FKK venue operators run mandatory blood check schemes. I am not aware that the police is involved these days any more. The German system relies on easy help and voluntary help takers (girls). Like the German national team, this scheme is extremely efficient.

    The income of the girls in the FKK trade varies widely, and the forum dialogue displays a lack of understanding. Let me try to help. Many girls make no money, for entry to the FKK costs them about 85 EUR per day, which often includes the possibility of sleepovers for girls only in 4-bed rooms. If they are not pretty enough, they have trouble attracting customers and soon drop out of the job. A top quality young princess makes about 100 EUR per half hour on average, for guys usually appreciate coming in their tender mouths or soiling their pretty faces. Working hours let us say 1 pm to 4 am. A real princess can make 1500 EUR per day easily. In exceptional cases young princesses will allow anal and even forcefully market this option for 100 EUR, which can make a half hour cost 200 EUR. FKK does allow a willing, very pretty, young girl to earn up to 30 000 EUR per month tax free. That is the high end and the big exception I guess and only possible the world over in German FKK.

    One attraction of FKK is the anonymity, despite the temporal and local publicness. A girl can live in Sofia or Budapest or Cologne and work in Berlin 3 weeks per month. She can have a kid at home with grandma taking care of it. Porn is comparatively public and due to its easy dissemination on the internet, hence its unlimited publicity, vulgar. Girls will shone it unless they have very rotten family and social ties or are hapless or brainless. There are exceptions of extremely beautiful young porn stars, but there are many many more extremely beautiful young girls in FKK. Softcore photography does not make any girl rich. FKK can make disciplined young beauties well-off at least for a while. To bring German FKK beauties to he USA for a porn shoot? Good luck, sir. They will rather hop on a plane to Dubai on their ow devices, enjoy shopping and architecture and earn home the travel cost by offering themselves in the clubs, a mechanism that is by factors less efficient than the German FKK mechanism. Oh those Germans.

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    Nille Copenhagen
    Why would a FKK girl go into porn and fuck without condoms?

  14. #3386
    Quote Originally Posted by HessenBub  [View Original Post]
    How realistic is it for a top FKK girl to have 3 porn movie jobs a day to make 2. 100 EUR minus the agency's fee? If she only gets one job per day and 2 jobs every week that will leave her with 1. 400 EUR per week. That's peanuts for top girls in German FKK.

    HB.
    How much a top girl can make? Once someone told me some girls can make 1500 on a busy Friday, but I really didn't see them in room for that long time, maybe lots of 10-15 mins sessions?

    but again, i remember another time one girl complained about her customers, she took a dozen that day, but all of them were 50 euro quick fuck, which made the money hard-earned and her pussy went broken.

    so maybe customers with big tips

  15. #3385
    Quote Originally Posted by HessenBub  [View Original Post]
    How realistic is it for a top FKK girl to have 3 porn movie jobs a day to make 2. 100 EUR minus the agency's fee? If she only gets one job per day and 2 jobs every week that will leave her with 1. 400 EUR per week. That's peanuts for top girls in German FKK.

    HB.
    It depends on the time and location. If she's the only pretty girl in a sea of ugly ones, she'll get more work. A few months ago (Summer) , my friend had a new girl who actually did have 3 porn jobs a day (sometimes 2 like on Sundays but the jobs were on the weekends)! I was the one driving her! She has a pretty face but her belly was flabby.

    Anyway, it was just a thought. Back to the original question, even though the girl was a registered prostitute, could she get into the USA With a work visa with my friend's company?

    She really wants to live in the USA And do less work (so to speak).

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