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  1. #2946
    Quote Originally Posted by HessenBub  [View Original Post]
    You don't find nothing to do around Cologne or Frankfurt for a non club day? Get informed. There's more to Germany than FKKs. It is not Thailand or Brazil so no beaches (only if you are willing to drive a few hours), but quite a few nice places to visit. Ever been to the Rheingau? Tasted German wine? Visited the castles? Took a ship cruise down the Rhine river? Heidelberg? Mainz? Wiesbaden?

    HB.
    Hessen believe me I know the atmosphere. Even the street animals are different in Far East. It's another planet and it's a touristic spot. Designed for tourism. But Germany is for production.

    I took the ship on Rhine river.

    By the way I like Germany and german people. It's a real pleasure to drive in Autobahn and to seek for FKK's. But Thailand is really different.

    Regards.

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    Hessen Bub
    You don't find nothing to do around Cologne or Frankfurt for a non club day? Get informed. There's more to Germany than FKKs. It is not Thailand or Brazil so no beaches (only if you are willing to drive a few hours), but quite a few nice places to visit. Ever been to the Rheingau? Tasted German wine? Visited the castles? Took a ship cruise down the Rhine river? Heidelberg? Mainz? Wiesbaden?

    HB.

  3. #2944
    I just want to add boredom of Germany for the people trying to decide. I usually prefer to give one day off when I go there for FKK because when you get in one of them you will make 4 or 5 times maybe 3. And if you are not a member of a special asian race like Mr. Ho,(HE can do 4-5 times every day during a week) you will get tired and the following day a 10 will look like your grandmother in your eyes. So what will you do in Cologne or Fra during your off day? It just makes me depressive.

    But my points are still for Germany because the girls you will find on beach road for 20 euro are not even comparable of the ones in FKKs.

    Banana,

    If you were in a closer country out of Europe you would have to collect a thousand documents to get a schengen visa and if I had a long term multiple schengen visa probably I would have thousands of euro debts. Because I would be in Germany two times per month.

    Regards.

  4. #2943

    At iceberg27

    Flights to Rio for you next year are in the $1200 area but I did find many flights to Bangkok in the $700 usd range.

    I think the two biggest difference in Germany and Thailand is the availability of overnights at a low rate. I could care less if there's garbage on the street as long as my hotel room and the girl I'm spending my time with are clean. And you read of guys saying 'this club has a great party atmosphere' in Germany but in Thailand there's 20 clubs with ten times more girls. Party atmosphere and the selection of girls are two of the biggest draws. But if your looking for just sex then Germany is the destination, its set up for multiple girls per day.

  5. #2942
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceberg27  [View Original Post]
    A Germany ticket for me can be about 200-500 Euro. 2,5 hours.
    I'd be in Germany every weekend if it only costed 200 euro and took 2.5 hours. I need to move.

  6. #2941
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Can I ask what general area you are from and the price of your airfare? I'm from the state's and found airfare to Germany going for $1,200 (I'm sure it will start moving up shortly). Also found airfare to Bangkok for under a grand ($800 USD in Seattle if anyone lives out that way). So from a dollar standpoint, Thailand would be the cheaper option when you can cut out car rentals and club fee's. And for any United semi frequent fliers out there, the new airmile program going into play next March will reduce your rewards by 75% unless your an elite member.

    As to safety, your correct that the club scene protects you from possible harm, not many muggers will pay entrance. But I found the hygiene to be pretty high with all the Thai girls I was with, every single one took a shower before sex, more than I can say with many of the FKK girls.
    I am from Istanbul / Turkey. Prices are about 1000-1200 USD to Banghok. 1200-1500 to Brasil and 200-500 Euro to Germany.

    I just want to expand the discussion and comparison for Rio.

    So I think Thailand-Brasil-Germany are top three points in the world now for sex travels. I think for example Dominique Republic or maybe Vietnam is another category.

    We don't need visa for Brasil and I wish to visit there so much but I still couldn't. I had maybe 15 sex travel. Moreover it takes a 13,5 hours flight from here to Sao Paolu and an additional 1-2 hours to Rio so it makes a 15-16 hours flight for me. Also about 12 hours to Baghok.

    So the point here what will I find there? I think for a person who is trying to decide where to go must ask himself which type of women you like? For me of course as you can guess easily blondes are very attractive. Especially I like brunette blondes and they are found much in for example East Ukraine. Also I don't like childish innocent look. I know the taste of Thai woman. They are very submissive and friendly. But this is not attracting me too much. Polish girls for example are my other favourite. For the hygen point yes I also never have sex with a stinky Thai girl. The girls are clean. They are loosing points because of facilities and streets which is full of trash waited under sun for hours. I can never say the very famous massage salons of Banghok are as clean as German FKK's and I think noone can.

    If you know a way to buy a cheap flight ticket for Rio and tell us I really appreciate it.

    And also some last words for the people trying to make a decision;.

    I have in my own country enough and very luxury facilities and great beaches cities near meditarranean and Aegan sea like Antalya or Bodrum. But if I am from Saudi Arabia of course I would prefer to have a one week vacation in Brasil or Pattaya for both girls and sun-beach thing.

    A Germany ticket for me can be about 200-500 Euro. 2,5 hours. Also Ukraine is 1,5 hour from here. It's even possible to go Odessa with Ferry from Istanbul (4 hours).

    So Rio or Pattaya must do smt more to make me decide for there.

    I usually split my vacations and spend one vacation in Antalya and the other one in Germany.

    Just my two cents.

    Regards.

  7. #2940

    FKK clubs & east Asian

    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    I know there are many asian posters on this board, I'm sure some will comment to my post without saying they are asian. But it would be interesting to know if there's a draw to Germany for asians looking for non asian sex workers?
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    I'd say punters from East Asia only look for white European women.

    Most guys are anonymous about their race or nationality. There are also many posters who have explained that they are Asians living in a Western country. Presumably both sets of Asian men can find European sex workers in their home countries, but I doubt they pay the equivalent of 50 EUR per half hour.
    First, I am not quite sure how to describe what kind of East Asian I actually am.

    I was born, grew up, and live in East Asia for most part of my life. My life is in East Asia, and I am of East Asian descent, so all these facts make me an East Asian by definition.

    However, I am actually from a very Westernized environment. The environment I grew up in, the education I received, and the lifestyle I owned were actually not so different from those in North America. I am actually not so different from people who were literally born and grew up in North America. That's why I am sometimes upset and offended by people who automatically assume that I will think differently and act strangely simply based on my East Asian face, when I visit Western countries.

    Okay, anyway, back to this topic, I am a sex tourist from East Asia.

    And just like McAdonis said, yes, I was looking for White Caucasian / European women exclusively, after I got tired of and lost my sexual interest in East Asian women.

    After I started to search for my potential sex vacation destinations, I guess I fell into the thought that a place with legalized sex industry would be safer for a foreign tourist. I still cannot make sure this kind of thought is a truth or a misconception till this day. It was just a simple thought. If I got beaten up or robbed in a legalized sex destination, at least I could go to the local police and explained why I was there without being embarrassed or got frowned at.

    I made my list, which includes Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, and Germany.

    In the end, Germany stands out because of its exclusive FKK clubs.

    I was deeply fascinated by the idea that I can eat, drink, swim in the pool, relax in the sauna, and take a nap on a lounger under the sun with all naked Caucasian / European women around me. What's more, I can take any of them to the room, which takes 50 Euros to get Kissing+BBBJ+covered sex for 30 minutes.

    In Australia, New Zealand, and the Netherlands, they have Red Light Districts, normal brothels without food and other relaxing facilities, escorts, etc. Nothing special actually.

    I mean, all those pussies and the sex process may not be any different or special in all places above.

    But when you combine food, drinks, sauna, swimming pool, outdoor playgrounds, and naked working women all together, that's something very different and special!

    And the FKK clubs only exist in Germany (and some other German-speaking countries)! That's why I chose Germany as my "Caucasian / European women-fucking sex vacation" destination.

    The FKK clubs turn out to be one of the most mind-blowing mongering experience I've ever had in my life, and I am so fascinated that I've flown to Germany to have my sex vacation simply for the FKK clubs for 4 times (from East Asia; over 12 hour flight).

    Finally, I think the real reason which make FKK clubs so different and special to me is that the FKK clubs fulfill my secret fantasies of watching or even having naked women hanging around with me in the restaurant, at the bar, in the swimming pool, in the sauna, in the outdoor areas etc.

    Well, this is just me, and my personal experience and opinions.

  8. #2939
    Quote Originally Posted by PussyLiccker  [View Original Post]
    This is what I want, but with European type women or latinas. Can't speak Spanish.
    Start making Spanish, Russian or Romanian friends.

  9. #2938
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    I'm pretty sure my dollar goes farther in Thailand, the euro even farther. I was paying 40 euro's to a smoking hot asian who stayed overnight and I found my hotel room to be pretty safe and secure (and more private) as I was enjoying myself. The biggest problem was getting rid of the girls afterwards. I was even finding gems on beach road for 20 euro's who would come to my hotel anytime I needed a booty call. Germany is amazing though in the fact the sex starts at the drop of a hat, there's no 'getting to know the girl' first. Where else can you walk up to a girl and a minute later be receiving a BJ from the girl? That's why on future trips I'd love to be able to combine both destinations into one trip, easily done since many flights to asia land in Frankfurt. You just have to pay the change fee to extend the layover.
    This is what I want, but with European type women or latinas. Can't speak Spanish.

  10. #2937
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    I'm pretty sure my dollar goes farther in Thailand, the euro even farther. I was paying 40 euro's to a smoking hot asian who stayed overnight and I found my hotel room to be pretty safe and secure (and more private) as I was enjoying myself. The biggest problem was getting rid of the girls afterwards. I was even finding gems on beach road for 20 euro's who would come to my hotel anytime I needed a booty call. Germany is amazing though in the fact the sex starts at the drop of a hat, there's no 'getting to know the girl' first. Where else can you walk up to a girl and a minute later be receiving a BJ from the girl? That's why on future trips I'd love to be able to combine both destinations into one trip, easily done since many flights to asia land in Frankfurt. You just have to pay the change fee to extend the layover.
    I meant that Germany offers the cheapest price points for white European women. I mean I am sure Ukraine can be much cheaper, but more hassle, unless one is proficient in Russian. I've heard that Thailand has Russian and Colombian girls, but they are considerably more expensive than the Thai girls.

    Is the Thai sex scene controlled by gangsters? It could be that petty thieves are too afraid to rob tourists, because they fear repercussions from gangsters. In most tourist destinations, they under-report crime statistics so tourists don't become afraid of visiting. I wonder if Ukraine or Romania would ever actively promote / sponsor such businesses. Actually Moldova is the poorest country in Europe.

  11. #2936
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    I know there are many asian posters on this board, I'm sure some will comment to my post without saying they are asian. But it would be interesting to know if there's a draw to Germany for asians looking for non asian sex workers?
    I'd say punters from East Asia only look for white European women. Tyra, this model-thin black girl with a disproportionately big ass at Palace, once told me about the customers she sees. She explained that men from China ignore her altogether. But once a while she said a younger, trendier Japanese men were open-minded and curious about her.

    It sort of makes sense, why would one travel so far for girls that they can find in their home countries. I mean I doubt a Japanese tourist would travel all the way Europe just to eat at a sushi restaurant in Germany. One would probably look for proper German food and beer.

    Mr. Ho usually writes about how much he admires the Germans with the practicality with which they've create a legalized, taxed, and regulated sex industry. He seems to know about the Tokyo scene. He's the only one I can think of who actively contributes. Most guys are anonymous about their race or nationality. There are also many posters who have explained that they are Asians living in a Western country. Presumably both sets of Asian men can find European sex workers in their home countries, but I doubt they pay the equivalent of 50 EUR per half hour.

    I'd venture to say that there are still more Chinese and Japanese men going to Thailand than Germany. Probably because its geographically closer. Or because it is cheaper. Or they haven't discovered what a FKK is yet. I do like hearing about Thailand and I find it appealing that you can take the girl back to your hotel with you at a reasonable rate. And she can she be a tour guide for you at all the local spots, food, and that you can. But for professional and personal reasons, I can't go off the grid for extended periods of time. Certainly not too Thailand which is known as a sex destination. For the most part, Germany is only known as a sex destination among hobbyists.

    Many old-school Germans told me that back in the day, Czech Republic was like a sexual playground. But that they did have run-ins with locals who were sensitive about the amount of sex tourists flooding their borders. I think men are for the most part competitive. In most cultures, men are seen as providers, so perhaps the Czech men felt some shame that they could not provide, and that their women were forced to resort to such work.

  12. #2935
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Germany, besides being safe and regulated, also offers the cheapest price points .
    I'm pretty sure my dollar goes farther in Thailand, the euro even farther. I was paying 40 euro's to a smoking hot asian who stayed overnight and I found my hotel room to be pretty safe and secure (and more private) as I was enjoying myself. The biggest problem was getting rid of the girls afterwards. I was even finding gems on beach road for 20 euro's who would come to my hotel anytime I needed a booty call. Germany is amazing though in the fact the sex starts at the drop of a hat, there's no 'getting to know the girl' first. Where else can you walk up to a girl and a minute later be receiving a BJ from the girl? That's why on future trips I'd love to be able to combine both destinations into one trip, easily done since many flights to asia land in Frankfurt. You just have to pay the change fee to extend the layover.

  13. #2934
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Germany, besides being safe and regulated, also offers the cheapest price points if one has no issues with white European women. I believe East Asian punters can find Russian hookers in their home countries but they probably have to pay a premium.

    If a punter gets robbed in a third world country can they report it to.
    Yes, the pricing also. Much more expensive for the Pay scene at their home country for lousy service.

  14. #2933
    Quote Originally Posted by PussyLiccker  [View Original Post]
    Yes, there is like a punter looking for girls that are exotic or the kind they don't typically see.
    Germany, besides being safe and regulated, also offers the cheapest price points if one has no issues with white European women. I believe East Asian punters can find Russian hookers in their home countries but they probably have to pay a premium.

    If a punter gets robbed in a third world country can they report it to.

  15. #2932
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceberg27  [View Original Post]
    I just wish to make some contribution. In my opinion just for sex purposes Germany is always a better option but if both were same distance to me I would definitely make a %50-50 in my choices. Now acutally my score is 3-1 Germany. Because of distance and price of flight tickets....Germany has all the safety and hygen points.
    Can I ask what general area you are from and the price of your airfare? I'm from the state's and found airfare to Germany going for $1,200 (I'm sure it will start moving up shortly). Also found airfare to Bangkok for under a grand ($800 USD in Seattle if anyone lives out that way). So from a dollar standpoint, Thailand would be the cheaper option when you can cut out car rentals and club fee's. And for any United semi frequent fliers out there, the new airmile program going into play next March will reduce your rewards by 75% unless your an elite member.

    As to safety, your correct that the club scene protects you from possible harm, not many muggers will pay entrance. But I found the hygiene to be pretty high with all the Thai girls I was with, every single one took a shower before sex, more than I can say with many of the FKK girls.

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