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  1. #491
    Quote Originally Posted by SmoociApp  [View Original Post]
    We have been debating whether to use PSE and GFE, and are still open to removing them. As you have mentioned, they are somewhat subjective terms.

    Traditionally PSE refers to a more wild and passionate experience, while GFE refers to a more romantic and intimate experience.

    Perhaps the members her can let us know whether having these service tags are useful, or whether people feel they are a bit outdated and too subjective.

    We are also open to any other service tags you feel would be useful to add.
    Since they are really the only two highly subjective terms that I have seen on these kinds of lists, why not ask each girl who wants those terms put on her profile to add a few words or comments about what she means by it. Not an essay about herself. Just a few words about what she means by claiming that term as a service she offers. If the girl comes up with something that better informs the customer about what he can expect, great, put the term or terms in her profile along with those words or comments attributed to her. We might be very pleasantly surprised by what some of those girls tell us about their intentions to deliver on those experiences.

    But if she can't come up with anything to say about it, about what she means by claiming it, then don't put the term or terms on her profile because then she is only claiming it to add more supposed services she either has no intention of delivering anyway or has no idea what it means in the first place. I imagine a lot of girls just check the boxes on those terms now because they are the free ride I mentioned before. They benefit by whatever it means in the heads of the customer while knowing full well it is only going to be up to them, the girl, what it means at crunch time. But if you ask them to tell us what they mean by it, that ought to weed out many of the posers on those terms. For a while, at least.

    Who knows, maybe none of the girls will check those boxes if they can't come up with a darn thing to say they mean by it. lol. And that serves the customer better than empty promises anyway.

  2. #490
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Yes, that does help anyone who didn't already know that GFE stands for Girlfriend Experience, that PSE stands for Pornstar Experience, that DATY stands for Dine at the Y and so on. But are there any plans to provide a Definition of Terms to better explain what the girl means when she says she provides, for instance, a GFE/Girlfriend Experience or a PSE/Pornstar Experience?
    We have been debating whether to use PSE and GFE, and are still open to removing them. As you have mentioned, they are somewhat subjective terms.

    Traditionally PSE refers to a more wild and passionate experience, while GFE refers to a more romantic and intimate experience.

    Perhaps the members her can let us know whether having these service tags are useful, or whether people feel they are a bit outdated and too subjective.

    We are also open to any other service tags you feel would be useful to add.

  3. #489
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    It's definitely useful, but even better would be an option for customers who review girls to check boxes for what the girl actually did (in addition to the girl checking boxes for what she's willing to do).
    I like your thinking with that idea.

    Of course, even that would require customers to be mostly in agreement and on the same page about what a BBBJ is (as the term is generally used on these sites I consider it to be mere oral foreplay, not really a "blowjob", yet it is often discussed on these sites as a blowjob until you question it further and find out it was merely oral foreplay after all), that CIM is when the customer finishes fully IN HER MOUTH (not mostly outside her mouth while, at best, her hand takes over, which I consider a "handjob" with some oral foreplay thrown in), that DFK does not mean she just poked her tongue out through her nearly clenched teeth for a nanosecond to touch yours and so on. Massage? Good lord, I can only imagine what I might have thought was an actual "massage" had I been deprived of even so much as a mild, one-hand back rub during years of a hopeless marriage back in the USA. LOL.

    But most of time checking either "Yes, she did" or "No, she didn't even after I requested it" would cover it enough to get the point across; either she did or she didn't do the thing stated on her profile after being asked or blatantly encouraged to do it.

    I think the only two highly subjective, anything-YOU-hope-it-means while in reality it is just certain things-SHE-thinks-it-means services listed on any of these escort check lists are GFE and PSE, with GFE being the far more subjective of the two to the point of being, well, meaningless in the absence of a clear definition of what it means to the girl claiming she provides it.

    At least with PSE one could argue that a Pornstar Experience is whatever sexual act you can easily find clips of featured porn actresses performing on porn sites like YouPorn and Tube Galore. You show the girl the clip and then sit back and wait for her to deliver. Lololol. Which, if you're letting me do the YouPorn clip search, means virtually NO Thai P4P girl has provided a true Pornstar Experience in known history. But that won't stop a lot of girls from checking that PSE box all the same because, like GFE, it ultimately only means whatever the girl wants it to mean.

  4. #488
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, I would say a Definition of Terms is very much in order on those Escort sites and/or Smooci.
    It's definitely useful, but even better would be an option for customers who review girls to check boxes for what the girl actually did (in addition to the girl checking boxes for what she's willing to do).

  5. #487
    Quote Originally Posted by SmoociApp  [View Original Post]
    We have also created rollover text on all the service abbreviation to help explain them better.
    Yes, that does help anyone who didn't already know that GFE stands for Girlfriend Experience, that PSE stands for Pornstar Experience, that DATY stands for Dine at the Y and so on. But are there any plans to provide a Definition of Terms to better explain what the girl means when she says she provides, for instance, a GFE/Girlfriend Experience or a PSE/Pornstar Experience?

    There is such a dramatic drop in the number and percentage of girls who are willing to say they provide a "GFE" on their profile, around 50% and sometimes more, I am guessing the drop off girls don't think it merely means presenting a nice smile when the hotel door opens, projecting a pleasant, friendly demeanor or that it has much to do with other services one might reasonably presume are GFE-related, such as DFK and BBBJ, because many girls who claim to provide those services don't also claim to provide a GFE.

    Good to see at least one girl out of the 41 available at 3PM today is now willing to allow DATY with her customers. Again, I realize this is a new item added to the Smooci site. But isn't it also possible that a lot of girls don't really know what DATY means there or, for that matter, on their original escort sites even if it is spelled out as Dine at the Y with that rollover text feature..?

  6. #486
    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin69  [View Original Post]
    It seems that as of today the filters have been expanded to include DT, GFE and others. No filter for English ability though. Also a lot of new girls have shown up.
    We are starting to collect data on language levels of the companions, including English. We will add this to the profiles at a later date once we have enough data.

    You may start to notice some independents on the site. Our companion app for freelancers is now in BETA phase and we have added a small group of independents working on the new app on Smooci Bangkok. We will slowly introduce a few more independents in Bangkok, and in the coming weeks we hope to be able to launch in Singapore and allow all independents to join in SG. If that goes smoothly it will pave the way for us to start expanding much further through 2018.

  7. #485
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Guess we don't have to worry about this anymore since the ratings have been removed on all the girls. Hope its a temporary thing but I doubt it. Its a moneymaking business, I completely understand.
    There was a small glitch with our last update that hid the star ratings from the results page (ratings were still visibile on the profile pages). This is being fixed.

  8. #484
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, I would say a Definition of Terms is very much in order on those Escort sites and/or Smooci. I just filtered out for DATY and the number of available girls willing to accept that at 3PM today went from 54 to 0 (zero). Lolol.

    Ok, it is probably because that "service" option is so new on Smooci it hasn't been selected by any girls just yet or something. But still. LOL.
    We have only just added the extra services. The companions / agencies have been informed but they are only just starting to update their accounts. It make take a few days to a week for these services to start to show effectively.

    We have also created rollover text on all the service abbreviation to help explain them better.

  9. #483

    Definition of Terms

    Yeah, I would say a Definition of Terms is very much in order on those Escort sites and/or Smooci. I just filtered out for DATY and the number of available girls willing to accept that at 3PM today went from 54 to 0 (zero). Lolol.

    Ok, it is probably because that "service" option is so new on Smooci it hasn't been selected by any girls just yet or something. But still. LOL.

  10. #482
    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin69  [View Original Post]
    It seems that as of today the filters have been expanded to include DT, GFE and others. No filter for English ability though. Also a lot of new girls have shown up.
    I don't see a definition of terms on the Smooci site but they must have a rather high standard concept of what a "GFE" means. Doing a quick check for the latest time I could select right now, 1:30 PM, I saw that when I filtered out for CIM, the number of girls with that listed on their profile went from 47 to 24, pretty much the usual ratio for that particular service. Not surprisingly, for DT the number went from 47 to 11. LOL.

    But it was interesting that when I filtered for GFE the number went from 47 to 24, same as for CIM. I would think a much higher percentage of girls would be happy to add that to their offered service list if they thought it primarily meant being nice, friendly or affectionate with the customer, all rather expected and fairly vague, highly subjective notions anyway. Kind of a free ride for almost every girl to include it on her list of offered services, so why not, right? Maybe many of the girls aren't sure what it means. Same as many customers, imo. Or they think it means going out to dinner and a movie beforehand. Perhaps some girls think it has something to do with offering BBFS as an option. Honestly, it is impossible for anyone to really know what it means on a site like that if there is no definition provided.

    Don't know what Smooci thinks GFE means, don't know what the girls think it means and don't know what the girls think the customers think it means. But roughly 50% of the girls available this afternoon apparently don't want to have anything to do with it. lol.

  11. #481
    It seems that as of today the filters have been expanded to include DT, GFE and others. No filter for English ability though. Also a lot of new girls have shown up.

  12. #480
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Guess we don't have to worry about this anymore since the ratings have been removed on all the girls. Hope its a temporary thing but I doubt it. Its a moneymaking business, I completely understand.
    The ratings are still there, but you have to click on the girl's profile, and they are at the top of the rest of her details. Agree that removing them from the thumbnails on the main page is a bit of a hassle though.

  13. #479
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Guess we don't have to worry about this anymore since the ratings have been removed on all the girls. Hope its a temporary thing but I doubt it. Its a moneymaking business, I completely understand.
    I still see the ratings you just got to click into the profile not just search results.

  14. #478
    Quote Originally Posted by SmoociApp  [View Original Post]
    When a companion gets a number of negative reviews and their rating falls below a certain figure we go through their reviews and send the companion the common complaints as a means to improve, and if necessary, to correct the info on their profile. Their account is then restricted, limiting the number of bookings they can take until their score improve, and if they continue to get negative reviews they are then removed from the platform.
    Guess we don't have to worry about this anymore since the ratings have been removed on all the girls. Hope its a temporary thing but I doubt it. Its a moneymaking business, I completely understand.

  15. #477

    Saki.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyk72  [View Original Post]
    Please Add More updates on Smooci Girls.
    After deciding it was worth getting a 3 day membership to access reviews, I finally went for Saki. As attractive as Cake's photos are, the reviews suggested she is a bit too tempramental for my liking.

    I booked the equally adorable Sugar, but she cancelled.

    Saki is very pretty, polite, professional. She very much has her idea of running the meeting. First came the instructed shower together, which was nice, then to the bed for the OK BBBJ, then to various positions, after 1st shot, straight into shower for her again. Back to bed for nice massage, with a few professional techniques, then to more positions for 2nd shot. She took direction well. She wasn't much into conversation, short, one-word, but friendly, replies. After 2nd shot, she didn't hang around for any further intimacies, (no cuddling or DFK) straight to final shower and then got dressed. A 2 HR booking wound up coming to conclusion around 30 min early. A very nice, attractive girl but maybe not as flexible as some might like for a meeting. She's not shaved but has a smattering of hair, nothing heavy.

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