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  1. #720
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Yes, he just had a hotel room there. He didn't only explore in that area. My friend didn't say he would have had difficulty getting laid in Singapore, just that the choices available and the vibe was far below what he is used to in Bangkok. Have you seen the Singapore offerings on Smooci?
    Comparing an Apple to Orange? LoLx.

    What's wrong with the offering of Smooci in Singapore? Care to elaborate more?

  2. #719
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiandihui  [View Original Post]
    Booking a hotel in Geylang just to hope for getting laid is such an bad idea. Probably just wanted some budget hotel is the best reason I think.

    Getting laid is Singapore is never that difficult at any times of the day or night. Just that you know where to go and look for it. If thinking only Geylang have it. Bad thoughts.
    Yes, he just had a hotel room there. He didn't only explore in that area. My friend didn't say he would have had difficulty getting laid in Singapore, just that the choices available and the vibe was far below what he is used to in Bangkok. Have you seen the Singapore offerings on Smooci?

  3. #718

    Singapore

    We can't argue with any of the comments posted here with regards to Singapore. We try to encourage comeptitive pricing but ultrimately the girls have full control over what they charge. We are confident that in 6 to 12 months a more competitive market place will develop for Smooci Singapore.

    Due to the strict local laws and the mass of scams in Singapore we are having to be tough, this means not allowing agencies and trying to stop pimps operating with independent account. It's difficult. We have already banned 95% of the indepdenents who signed up, mostly because they were pimps acting as independents, and half of them were not even based in Singapore.

    We will be launching in Manila next month and that will be a similar launch to our Bangkok launch, based around a group of well respected agencies. We are also trying to organize a similar launch in Hong Kong, and potentially in Kuala Lumpr the following month.

    With that said we are happy to let Singapore grow organically, keeping our rules strict. It might be very slow to grow, but with growth in other areas it should begin to promote a better standard for the Smooci platform in Sinagpore, and we should see more independent companions who move around different Smooci locations.

  4. #717
    Quote Originally Posted by NicFrenchy  [View Original Post]
    And all this time I was under the impression this was like the "Uber" of escorts, where girls can choose to get on / off depending on their needs (whatever they may be) and get rated by the customers. The app being just the Platform for meetings.
    Not sure how to respond to that. I don't think allowing girls to choose their bookings and being a platofrm for meetings are opposing concepts, and we are both. Maybe I misunderstood you.

    I think the complaint is aimed mainly at the individual Escort and the agency she works for. We definitely encourage users to publically post bad experiences as well as postivite ones. Our system is [partly based around clients with confirmed bookings being able to post honest and unedited reviews, which then appear on the companions profile.

  5. #716
    Quote Originally Posted by TallDarkUsa  [View Original Post]
    Never again will I use this agency. I know it's just one girl and one time but with how much advertising they do as the most "professional" agency in Bangkok they should know there girls and try not to scam.
    And all this time I was under the impression this was like the "Uber" of escorts, where girls can choose to get on / off depending on their needs (whatever they may be) and get rated by the customers. The app being just the Platform for meetings.

  6. #715
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Long time Bangkok player friend of mine from the USA decided to spend a few nights in Singapore first on his most recent trip here, booking a hotel close enough to the Geylang area to explore. He lasted exactly two days and one night before changing his flight to hightail it to Bangkok as soon as possible. And that meant bringing him here during SONGKRAN! LOL. He said it was a struggle to find any girls that were both acceptable in terms of looks and did not trigger an immediate scam-alert in his mind. He is a past Smooci user but their Singapore branch was not yet set up while he was there, not that he would have booked any of the options that have popped up so far.
    Booking a hotel in Geylang just to hope for getting laid is such an bad idea. Probably just wanted some budget hotel is the best reason I think.

    Getting laid is Singapore is never that difficult at any times of the day or night. Just that you know where to go and look for it. If thinking only Geylang have it. Bad thoughts.

  7. #714
    Quote Originally Posted by TallDarkUsa  [View Original Post]
    So unjust booked Zoey from the site. She arrived a little late which is fine if it's the actual girl in the lgtots. She looked about 15 years older then any of the photos on the site. Me being dumb and horny decide to continue. First off she gets in my room and starts looking around at things. That makes me feel very uncomfortable. Next we begin with the worst BJ I have had since InwS 14. I let her take a ride and that was god awful. She screeched every time I touched a nipple. So I get upset and just tell her to play with the jewels while I help myself. Paid for the full two hours and only had her in the room for about 25 minutes.

    Never again will I use this agency. I know it's just one girl and one time but with how much advertising they do as the most "professional" agency in Bangkok they should know there girls and try not to scam.

    Hopefully this saves someone a long and unpleasant headache!
    Assuming an honest post and no reason not to this was an unfortunate waste of 3000. Listed as 31 years old with a 3.5 rating was not an outstanding profile to begin with but it's no excuse for what transpired. When the door opened and she was obviously not what you were expecting (at least 15 years older which would make her 46, blimey) you should have politely explained she was as her pics showed, given her 200 taxi money and said thanks but no thanks and nobody would blame you. Smooci have explained and not totally convincingly in my opinion they cannot verify age due to resistance from the escorts so it's really up to clients to simply cancel bookings when a girl arrives who has included a completely misleading profile on the site.

  8. #713
    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    I'm not familiar with the general P4P Singapore scene but judging by the 18,000 plus curvy Karla is asking on your new site I'm glad I play in Bangkok.
    Long time Bangkok player friend of mine from the USA decided to spend a few nights in Singapore first on his most recent trip here, booking a hotel close enough to the Geylang area to explore. He lasted exactly two days and one night before changing his flight to hightail it to Bangkok as soon as possible. And that meant bringing him here during SONGKRAN! LOL. He said it was a struggle to find any girls that were both acceptable in terms of looks and did not trigger an immediate scam-alert in his mind. He is a past Smooci user but their Singapore branch was not yet set up while he was there, not that he would have booked any of the options that have popped up so far.

  9. #712

    Disgusted and pissed.

    So unjust booked Zoey from the site. She arrived a little late which is fine if it's the actual girl in the lgtots. She looked about 15 years older then any of the photos on the site. Me being dumb and horny decide to continue. First off she gets in my room and starts looking around at things. That makes me feel very uncomfortable. Next we begin with the worst BJ I have had since InwS 14. I let her take a ride and that was god awful. She screeched every time I touched a nipple. So I get upset and just tell her to play with the jewels while I help myself. Paid for the full two hours and only had her in the room for about 25 minutes.

    Never again will I use this agency. I know it's just one girl and one time but with how much advertising they do as the most "professional" agency in Bangkok they should know there girls and try not to scam.

    Hopefully this saves someone a long and unpleasant headache!

  10. #711
    Quote Originally Posted by SmoociApp  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the tip, adding nationality may be a good ideas as there seems to be such a huge mix of nationalities available.

    To be honest with you we expect Smooci in Singapore to take a while to pick up, the girls there are definitely more cautious with where they put their details.
    I'm not familiar with the general P4P Singapore scene but judging by the 18,000 plus curvy Karla is asking on your new site I'm glad I play in Bangkok.

  11. #710
    Quote Originally Posted by SmoociApp  [View Original Post]
    Photos inaccuracy is among our main concerns and a problem we are constantly looking to reduce.

    Our current system is allowing those who have had confirmed booking to go through the photos of the girl he has just met and click 'yes' or 'no' (are these photos accurate) on each of the photos on the girls profile. About 40-50% of clients select a rating, about 40-50% of those add a comment, and about 40-50% of those also rate the photos.

    As we get around 100-150 bookings a day it still means we get a high number of photo ratings which should be able to make a difference, but it's still not having the desired effect.

    We have looked a creating algorythms to link the photo votes to the overal rating, but it's very complicated and has lots of flaws. We also played with sending out the review forms later (after the emotion of the experienced had calmed down), but we found that it notably lowered the number of ratings and repsonses we got. So, at the moment we are still relying on the client photo votes and comments to help combat the problem, but we are continuing to look at new ideas.
    Why not giving the user the chance to rate the accuracy of each picture from 1 to 10 and calculate the average?

  12. #709
    Quote Originally Posted by WarmStone25  [View Original Post]
    Sucessfull platform.

    It was said by Tiandihui that he cannnot find any other platform doing so far so good as Smooci. I was pointing out that a massage parlour has a web site which uses photos and states ages which, as far as I can see are uptodate. From my observation the massage parlour appears to be busy and successful. So it would appear that a business can provide accurate information and be successful. In contrast I have seen examples of pictures and ages, which would be provided by agencies, on the Smooci web site, in the last week or two, which are not accurate. One of these examples was a girl I dated through Smooci about a year ago. When the girl turned up at the door I thought that she was the girl in the photos, but that she looked about 10 years younger in the photos. This may have been in part due to photo shoping. I have seen an example of what photo shoppng can do, this very night, and it is remarkable what a skilled operator can do. In the case of the girl that I dated she was young, good looking and sexy with pale skin, in the photos. At the door she looked older with dark skin, but was the girl in the photos. Should users of the service verify the photos in a case like is? I suspect that in many cases, if the user gets a good session, he will. The girl that I dated gave me a good session, I gave her a good rating, perhaps to much. There is no excuse for out of date photos, because in this digital age they can be easily and quickly be updated, as can ages. I assume that this massage parlour has an objective of keeping its customers happy and making profit. At the beginning Smooci sated that they wanted to deal with the long standing problems of the escort industry. The problems were inaccurate photos and ages, and bait and switch. As far as I know, I have not suffered bait and switch, but not all of the ages and pictures are accurate. I understand that Smooci is a work in progress. I applaud Smooci for tackling these problems. When using Smooci I would use the rating system and user reports together, to help me make a selection. It would help if more users would report, and report honestly, and use more than two or three words in the report. The user reports have the potential to provide usefull feedback. I hope that Smooci continue to improve their service. When visiting Bangkok, using the Smooci service would be my prefferred way of getting a girl to the safety and comfort of my room. If I wanted to go out I might be tempted to try The Hentai at Mitu, which I have enjoyed on a number of occasions.
    Thanks for your apperciation.

    With regards to the massage service you are referring to, it sounds like they are taking a great approach, and we wish more agencies and such services would try adding untouched photos. I'm sure in the long run it builds a much stronger client base.

    Photos inaccuracy is among our main concerns and a problem we are constantly looking to reduce.

    Our current system is allowing those who have had confirmed booking to go through the photos of the girl he has just met and click 'yes' or 'no' (are these photos accurate) on each of the photos on the girls profile. About 40-50% of clients select a rating, about 40-50% of those add a comment, and about 40-50% of those also rate the photos.

    As we get around 100-150 bookings a day it still means we get a high number of photo ratings which should be able to make a difference, but it's still not having the desired effect.

    The algorythm kicks in once a photo has had 5 votes, and photos with a very high number of yes votes gets lablled as 'verified', and the photos which get a very high number of no votes is removed from the system. All other photos are left on the system but don't hold the verified stamp.

    Along with the profile comments, this is definitely combatting the issue, and a lot of girls who would be able to get away with extremely misleading photos on other sites, are being found out and their bookings are usually very limited (we've noticed several have added new photos, and some using photos they've taken themselves / selfies). Howeverm it's still not solving the issue completely and there is a lot more room for imporevment.

    I think one of the issues is that a lot of clients base the photo accuracy on the total experience (which you have touched on). For example, a girl arrives looking notably different from her photos (but still the same girl). At first the client is disappointed but she has a nice attitude and a warm smile. As the evening goes on the client has an amazing time, and after the girl has left he is keen to give her a high rating and tell everyone about his experience. After doing this it then comes to rate the photos and that's when many guys will be more influenced by the experience in total rather than genuinely how accurate the photos are, in my opnion.

    We have looked a creating algorythms to link the photo votes to the overal rating, but it's very complicated and has lots of flaws. We also played with sending out the review forms later (after the emotion of the experienced had calmed down), but we found that it notably lowered the number of ratings and repsonses we got. So, at the moment we are still relying on the client photo votes and comments to help combat the problem, but we are continuing to look at new ideas.

  13. #708

    Accurate information

    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    Perhaps he was suggesting that being strict on using only authentic profiles and pics on a site need not result in a poor business outcome. .
    Sucessfull platform.

    It was said by Tiandihui that he cannnot find any other platform doing so far so good as Smooci. I was pointing out that a massage parlour has a web site which uses photos and states ages which, as far as I can see are uptodate. From my observation the massage parlour appears to be busy and successful. So it would appear that a business can provide accurate information and be successful. In contrast I have seen examples of pictures and ages, which would be provided by agencies, on the Smooci web site, in the last week or two, which are not accurate. One of these examples was a girl I dated through Smooci about a year ago. When the girl turned up at the door I thought that she was the girl in the photos, but that she looked about 10 years younger in the photos. This may have been in part due to photo shoping. I have seen an example of what photo shoppng can do, this very night, and it is remarkable what a skilled operator can do. In the case of the girl that I dated she was young, good looking and sexy with pale skin, in the photos. At the door she looked older with dark skin, but was the girl in the photos. Should users of the service verify the photos in a case like is? I suspect that in many cases, if the user gets a good session, he will. The girl that I dated gave me a good session, I gave her a good rating, perhaps to much. There is no excuse for out of date photos, because in this digital age they can be easily and quickly be updated, as can ages. I assume that this massage parlour has an objective of keeping its customers happy and making profit. At the beginning Smooci sated that they wanted to deal with the long standing problems of the escort industry. The problems were inaccurate photos and ages, and bait and switch. As far as I know, I have not suffered bait and switch, but not all of the ages and pictures are accurate. I understand that Smooci is a work in progress. I applaud Smooci for tackling these problems. When using Smooci I would use the rating system and user reports together, to help me make a selection. It would help if more users would report, and report honestly, and use more than two or three words in the report. The user reports have the potential to provide usefull feedback. I hope that Smooci continue to improve their service. When visiting Bangkok, using the Smooci service would be my prefferred way of getting a girl to the safety and comfort of my room. If I wanted to go out I might be tempted to try The Hentai at Mitu, which I have enjoyed on a number of occasions.

  14. #707
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Wow. I was just accused by another poster in the Bangkok Reports thread of being too much of an "advocate/defender" of Working Girls and "over protective" of them. LOL! Freud would have a field day around here.
    No need to reference that. Irrelevant! Just shows someone (him) can reach a really silly conclusion on occasion.

  15. #706
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Good luck to your new endeavor. Singapore, IMHO, might turn out to be a more profitable market for Smooci than BKK. Only time will tell. One small suggestion for Smooci Singapore: include the girl's nationality on her profile page. The # difference between BKK & Singapore P4 P is the BKK scene has an ample local supply of talent with imports a distinct minority where as the Singapore scene is composed of an almost 100% variety mix of import talent.
    Thanks for the tip, adding nationality may be a good ideas as there seems to be such a huge mix of nationalities available.

    To be honest with you we expect Smooci in Singapore to take a while to pick up, the girls there are definitely more cautious with where they put their details.

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