Headed to Ixtapa next week and it doesn't seem to be active at all. Can anyone comment?
ZIH in December
Went into Zihuatanejo last night for dinner and a look around. Had a great meal but didn't see much play action in the area near the waterfront. Nice area though. I walked along Av Benito Juarez and saw a sexy dressed SW chatting with a car that had stopped. She got in and left so I missed that opportunity. I kept walking and finally stopped at Kisses on the main highway. It is 'shoulder season' now in early December and the doorman waived the posted 100 peso cover and let me in. There were about 5 or 6 women and about the same number of guys but I think the guys had been tapped out already. As I sat down a girl attached herself to me and we tried to talk a bit. The music was way too loud though. The 'waiter' came over and gave me the info on prices but I really couldn't understand him between the accent and the load music. I got the info from the girl. Beer 150, girl 1000-1200 negotiable, room on site 300. Also had an option to pay 700 bar fine and have take out. All I had was 1300 and I kept 100 back for the taxi ride home. Nevertheless, she accepted the deal, even bought my beer out her proceeds. She was 33, maybe a 7 or so, and had the biggest natural tits I have ever had the pleasure of playing with. They weren't saggy either. Nice pussy, partially shaved and wet! I was not expecting much from Kisses based on previous reports but I came away happy. Would like to find and try Erotico Lobo as reported earlier. Maybe tomorrow.
Hit Copacabana by taxi from our hotel in Ixtapa the other night with a couple of friends. Door fee was 100 pesos and the place was pretty filled with locals. For a moment, I thought we might get into trouble there being the only gringos in the house. The masero greeted us and we sat at one of the booths then he explained drink pricing. That night they were running a "promocion" of 1200 pesos for six beers. We got that and then he brought us over each a girl. Two girls from Morelia, about 23 and another girl from a different state. All were pretty hot, say 7/8 with the other girl being 8/9.
Girls drinks are 180 pesos per drink or their large pitcher for 350 pesos (looks like pricing went up over the past year).
As far as services go:
200 pesos or $20 for a single song private dance.
2000 pesos or $200 for sex in the in-house room (500 pesos or $50 to the house for the rental)
700 pesos or $70 for the house to take the girl out, with an expected 2000 pesos or $200 for sex.
Also, we were informed that blow or la mota were also available. Didn't ask the price.
I got my girl a large drink and a single song dance. Nice body, cute face, enjoyed that. My friend availed of the in-house sex and negotiated $100 for the sex. He said very GFE and enthusiastic performance. Out two girls were actually pretty great. Good attitude, GFE style and nursed their drinks. Our other friend got the 8/9 with the attitude who finished her drink long before our girls. Typical puta.
Told my girl I wanted her to come to my hotel the next day so I could fuck her properly and in more comfort, as well as go hang out at the beach. She gave me a number but when I called the next day, whoever answered kept saying it was the wrong number. Oh well.
Alligator Alley and Estetica Lobo
Alligator Alley was a bust. Was there last night. A string of low-rent cantina type places, mostly empty, a street cart peddling beers for 10 pesos. I ducked into one to use a bathroom. Saw the rainbow flags. Saw someone following me in. Yeah, it was not a celebration of multiculturalism. When I came out a distinctly man-looking non-passable woman was checking me out. I bounced quick.
Walking down the main strip, Avenida Juarez around 11, 12 pm, a relatively cute girl on the street said hola. I might have been tranny-shy from the AA experience be / see I took a pass. Besides, I don't usually like street meat, except in well-established places like Tijuana. Higher risk of getting jacked, etc. IMO. But, it would appear there's street action if it's wanted, and the quality was decent.
What was really awesome, however, was Estetica Lobo today. 40 pesos from near the centro where I was staying. I usually prefer to walk, but this place would have been next to impossible to find on your own, unless you knew EXACTLY where you were going. It's in an unmarked building painted yellow, south off the Highway 200 from Zihua to Ixtapa. Worth paying the taxista just to know where the hell it is, be / see there is no signage. Had to confirm I was going in the right place. There's a decent mariscos place a few blocks to the east, and a river (I think the one that empties into Zihua bay) trickling through just to the south.
Inside was offered a drink at the bar, took water. 2 chicas, one ok and one cute. A kind of weird atmosphere, with 4-5 mexicanos, a TV, and the girls staring, waiting for your choice. I went with the cute one. Turned out she had a SLAMMING little body, itty bitty titties, tight ass. It was a true GFE, she kept saying "rico, rico", joined me in the shower, kissed. Think the name was lisa, she said she was 18, with that tight body I would believe. Worked up a sweat, there. Again the body was just incredible, flexible girl too, had her pinned down having fun.
Room cost was 300 pesos, then informed you discuss "propina" directly with girl, who said it was 800 for her. I gave her 900 and didn't ask for change as she was that much fun and earned it. She seemed happy with that and gave me her, said she works every day.
So yeah I would get up in there, definitely worth the cost. Zihua a win so far.
Zihuatanejo is Oodles of Fun
Here's some news from Zihua. Went out last night, looking for Copacapabana on Avenida Morelos, walkable from the downtown. Walked right by it, didn't even see it. Until I saw a van parked outside with an ad on it, and realized the place with the doorman I'd just walked by was probably it.
As I was walking in, doorman tried to charge me 100 pesos. Then another guy showed up, a local expat apparently, and the doorman asked me a couple times: "amigo"? Like, was I his friend. Not wanting to lie, I didn't say anything. But the guy was cool and was like, yeah. And so that waived the cover.
Basically got the VIP treatment since this was a regular, and he explained the scene: drinks were relatively cheap (50 pesos) , but what cost was the fichas. 150 pesos for the girl, and then 300 pesos (!) for a jarra (a big 'ol one.) The masero dropped a couple of hotties in our laps, and we were good to go.
I ended up spending more than I planned. Partly because I bought the first round, including the guy's ficha, for his girl. But it was more than worth it. I lucked out with the freakiest, nastiest, hottest chick that was happy to perform and please. She started getting a little wild with the drinks. Be / see "estoy feliz". (she was happy to be earning it) and I was playing with her little poos under her miniskirt, making her wet (and even happier.) She got on the table, ground on me, it was basically dry sex. So, worth it, like I said. It was like a 90-minute lap dance. As the place started filling up the guy / girl ratio turned unfavorable, meaning I had a hot little commodity. At one point as she was nuzzling up to me, I pulled her thigh back, exposing her ass poos and thong to the 3 horny Mexican guys at the next table. 6 eyes basically bugging out and almost falling on the floor confirmed they enjoyed the little gesture.
She did her best to keep us there, her and her more lackluster friend, but around 3 a. M. My new friend / guide says let's hit Kiss. Along the way, he shows me "alligator alley" where canntinas aforementioned are. It's east of Copa, on Morelos, on the left-hand-side I think. He warns of the tranny bars as well, but says he's pulled 7s. 8s out of the alley for 300 pesos (!) The chica at Copa offered 1500 pesos, then quickly dropped to 1000 pesos when my friend arched his eyebrows. I'm sure further negotiation would have led to the right price if sexo had been so desired. But I'm curious about alligator alley and will need to hit it up tonight.
Kiss was TOTALLY dead. So glad I didn't make it my primary destination, would have been sorely disappointed. Got waived out of yet ANOTHER 100 pesos attempted cover charge with local expat accompanying. 5 hideous looking chicks, one decent one. Apparently this guy is all friends with them (he had not heard of this forum so I'll not disclose name). One is ok, starts dancing (finally) around 3:30 a. M. This time around he covers the drinks, his friend comes in (an off-duty stripper) and is so enthusiastic I speak Spanish starts talking my ear off. Some new talent shows up around 4:30 a. M. That my new friend takes a liking to. So he makes plans to meet her at the OXXO outside at 5 a. M. (I guess to trim out the house fee). It's ok they earned on all the drinks (sorry, don't know prices at Kiss be / see I didn't pay for anything). The off-duty stripper friend wants to come along but then looks at me archly, and informs me her company isn't free. Will cost me 1, 000 pesos for her to accompany us to my new friend's house.
LOL I don't think so. A solid 5 in my book. I politely explain I will discuss with my friend, and we bounce. $80 to take home a chica you're not even feeling? I don't think so.
Alligator Alley tonight. More forthcoming
Artist I just responded to a post you made on the PV thread. Am going to check out the strip club scene here in ZIH tonight, but am curious. Where are the "gritty centro streets" with action here in Zihuatanejo . Are they in the bars themselves on or the street? Can you provide a rough intersection.
Stopped in zihautenajo sat at noon and parked in the dock parking area and went looking for a bed, bread and bred!
Stopped at Casa Elvira close to the pier and got room and then went eat and then on to the bred.
After watching the preliminary fights at a sports bar we headed over to Copacabana. At 11 pm it was full of locals and. A few chicas. Left to go dumpster diving a 100 feet to the north and down the side street. I word to the wise, not for polo shirt crowd but I enjoyed it. Went into several dives and settled on 1 with 2 cuties sitting by the door. My wing turned down a hottie but recovered her after a good look around as she was the hottest. After several beers all around which I believe we're 70 pesos for her and 15 for us, I picked my chica. I little thicker but FRIENDLY. My wing disappears for 30 minutes for 600 pesos and returns drenched in sweat! These are mamacitas looking for a couple bucks and free beer, she even helped use my coins to count out the beers and only goes out on the weekends.
Headed to Jaguars next, closed in September, dammit!
Next walked over to kisses but the locals had all of the hotties busy so I cabbed it back to my 100 peso a night bed.
There is action in zihuatenejo. A local hotel in the centro has onsite action for roughly $70. If you venture out to the gritty centro streets around 9ish you will find a street with few bars that has on site action for roughly $35/40. Zihuat can be very sleazy from what I saw. If you like the senor frogs crowd ixtapa is the place to be.
I saw nothing gritty about PV when I was there. However there are some really nice homes and secluded beaches reachable by water taxi.
Thanks. I ended up going with PV, and splitting my stay between the Westin ($50 a night on Priceline) and a small known chica friendly place in the Zona Romantica. I'll report back on the action.
Vallarta is much bigger (10X?) than Ixtapa and has more options. If you like a quieter more relaxed place Ixtapa is okay for a few days or up to a week. For a longer stay or more active vacation choose Vallarta. If you are picky you are more likely to find what you like in Vallarta, but she will cost you more. Ixtapa is overall more relaxed and friendly with a slower pace, but less English spoken outside of the resort. Vallarta has much more to do both day and night. If you are a party guy or like lots of variety, forget about Ixtapa. If you like friendlier but average looking chicas and don't mind repeating when you find a good one, try Ixtapa.
I don't know what kind of beaches you are used to, but neither of these locations has great ones. Expect high surf conditions at Las Brisas Ixtapa and probably no swimming. The best beach is Playa La Ropa in the nearby town of Zihuatanejo. There are hotels there too if the beach is important to you. In Vallarta the best beaches are at either end of the bay. The ones in the middle by the marina are disgusting but the hotels are good and have nice swimming pools. In the hotel zone the beaches are average at best, but this is where you can find a decent hotel and still be close to the action. Old town Vallarta has a short but nice beach, lots of restaurants and bars but only two star hotels.
How does Ixtapa compare with Puerto Vallarta for the hobby?
I am looking to schedule a beach and pussy vacation in November or early December, and I am seeing really great hotel deals for both Puerto Vallarta and Ixtapa. In Ixtapa, I can book Las Brisas, which is supposed to be one of the best beach resorts in all of Western Mexico, for $61 per night, assuming I don't get the plan with food. While in Puerto Vallarta, I can get a place like the Westin or Marriott for something like $50 a night on Priceline presently.
Is the hobbying in Ixtapa anywhere near the level that it is in Puerto Vallarta?
great report, thank you. zihuatanejo...the most beautiful girl i have ever seen i saw at jaguares in zihua about 4 years ago, she was from michoacan and about 19-21 - face of an angel. it was only 300 pesos to take her arriba, i still didn't do it..., i must've been feeling plm
Originally Posted by speedstick
I was quoted less at Jaguar:
Originally Posted by Big Bob II
Door fee $10 ($100 Pesos)
Lap dance $15
Lady drink $15
BJ in back room $80
FS in back room $100
8 to 1 exchange rate on site. 10 to 1 or better elsewhere.
Open 9:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m.
Taxi from Ixtapa $5.
Zihuatanejo / Ixtapa update Feb. 2008
Hola bendechos! I just spent a pleasant hour or so at the Estetica El Lobo in Zihuatanejo. I also journeyed past the *****house downtown near Kyoto Circle yesterday just to see if it was still there, it is and painted a garish color now (purple I think). Either way it's easy to find, go to the Kyoto Circle/Square thingy and go north one block on the main drive as noted in the other reports, it's on your left and well marked with with signs.
El Lobo was a tiny bit more difficult to find just because no one gave clear directions in the earlier report(s). Here's my best shot: coming into Zihuat from the Ixtapa area (traveling south from Ixtapa) the buses pull into Zihuat off the highway at the area where the green PEMEX station is directly across the street on the east side of the highway. The bus travels southwest along a little one-way road with shops, mostly repair shops and hardware shops, along your right. It will go under a pedestrian overpass - get off the bus as close to this as you can. Travel 2 blocks further from the ped overpass and you'll see the big ESTETICA LOBOS banner on the corner of a building on your right. Turn right at that corner and Estetica Lobo is down the hill at the end of the block on your right. As earlier reported, it's a bit north (toward Ixtapa) from the Kisses and other girly nightclubs.
Estetica Lobo is open noon to 9pm mon - sat (closed sunday). I walked up and the sliding door to the office was closed and locked, but there was a little buzzer to the right of the sliding glass doors. I pressed that and a guy came out through a door in the metal fence to the right of the sliding glass door, and asked me if I wanted a massage. Oh boy did I want a massage, but not from him. I said yes, he said the price was $250 pesos (about $25 US) and said they had two girls on duty. I looked and one was in her early twenties and so/so, nothing special, the other was younger and cute. Small tits and a bit of a belly, but nice legs and a cute face, in a Catholic Schoolgirl short skirt and white top. I'd guess she was only a few days over 18 at best. I asked the guy if he knew which gave a better blowjob and he suddenly lost the ability to comprehend english. Oh well. I gave the dude $300 pesos and asked for change, he made a very feeble attempt to find change and then shrugged his shoulders. Oh well. For me, the charge was now $30 for the massage I realized. Next time bring exact change I told myself. The girl motioned for me to go to room 3. I went in and waited. Room 3 was sparse, just a table with a small mattress and pillow, and a small shower stall.
When she came in she told me her name was Diana or something like that, gave me a kiss on the check and sorta rubbed against me, then asked me if I wanted a shower. I took the soap she offered and quickly rinsed my body then hopped up onto the table. She'd left the room again so I waited a couple minutes, sitting there but naked. She came in, gave me a once-over with her eyes, reached out and sorta shook my flacid dingus, and told me to roll over onto my stomach for the massage. I complied and she applied some lightly greasy massage oil, something like an unscented baby oil (warning for any hobbyists that are there with a significant other). As she gave a decent body rub I caressed her legs and thighs, then reached up under her short skirt and rubbed her naked and shaved pussy. Very nice. Eventually she sorta reached under me and grabbed my cock, I rolled over and pulled her down to me and we kissed deeply for a minute. She then told me if I wanted additional services it was extra. I asked for bbbj but she insisted it would be with condom, and the price was $80. I agreed, she insisted I fondle her tight little titties for a bit and chewed on my ear, then finally put a condom on me. She gave a decent bj with lots of ball licking and sucking, slowing taking me in while staring into my eyes, a very decent job for such a young lass. After a few minutes she stood up and motioned for me to slide into her while standing behind her, I complied and withing 2 minutes I'd finished. She was very tight and very cute, and actually seemed to be into it (or was very good at faking it which is probably more likely). Either way, I gave her $90 and didn't ask for change, and headed out to the street. On the way out I passed the central area where the girls sit and there were two different girls, one pretty cute who looked me up and down and whistled. Aye, if only I were 20 again I would have grabbed her and headed right back again but the truth is I'm 47 and will wait until monday or tuesday to return.
Deep Throat, your Seattle correspondent
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How did the trip go, do you have a report ready yet?