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  1. #22323

    Escobar

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    (I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)

    I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!

    If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.

    If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.

    I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.
    TEHO!! Like it or not, MDE is accociated with Pablo & Pablo is accociated with MDE. Neither in a good way. However, some people, myself included, associate the history of MDE to be forever intertwined with Pablo, hence, my Pablo Tour last December. I didn't make a big fuss about it, it certainly was not the only reason I went & I more than likely will not go back on future trips to the MDE. I did it because I was there, with time on my hands & I associate Pablo with MDE. Just as I visited the Panama Canal 2 consecutive days in Dec of '15, I did it because it was there & no place else. I certainly didn't go to PTY just to go to the canal, but while I was there, I went.

    According to your theory, anyone who goes to his Finca, Hacienda andápoles, is wasting their time & should do something else to occupy their time.

    Did you know that his 'Prison' has been converted into an old folks / nursing home for the poor elderly people of Medellin? All govt. Run at no cost to the residents! I didn't before I went. Hence the advantage of doing a few 1/2 day trips while waiting for the chicas to arrive at the Mansion! Anyway, I'm certainly glad I went, even though I probably won't ever go again. JMHO & again TEHO!!

    El Mechanico.

  2. #22322
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    Even at a couple sessions a day it's usually not more than 5 hours of time occupied. And if you are doing strip clubs and casas that's a couple hours by day, few hours by night. Then what? I have one good friend and an acquaintance from a different mongering destination and neither want to visit Medellin because they want more than a chica scene.
    Suggestions:

    In Medellin, there's the Museum in centro along with the plaza, and Arvi Park. Those two are actually worth going to. I also advise checking out the night life in Laureles. Think of it as a night away from El Poblado. Outside of Medellin there's Santa Fe de Antioqua, and Jardin. Santa Fe is much easier to get to by car. It's only an hour away. You can even find tours of it offered by tourism companies. Jardin is a bit of a two hour trek. I would only go there if you decide to stay there overnight. There is both paragliding and hang gliding just outside of Medellin. It's about 30 to 45 minutes to get to each and it's pretty cheap.

    The trouble is these are all day trips. I'm not aware of anything touristy to do during the night, and the night is when casas close up. That's the biggest downtime for a lot of visitors.

    I find the Escobar tours tacky and would never go on them. You can pick up a good book on the subject. No need to check out the man's grave.

    I'll be arriving tomorrow night in Medellin. Will post a report when I get back. Have fun and stay safe everyone!

  3. #22321
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Before I go to a new place I look on TripAdvisor under the things to do tab. I think the Escobar tour was one of the top things to do in Medellin. Otherwise I would have never even known about it. And it was very interesting to hear the stories. Of course it was nothing you could not have read beforehand or seen in the documentaries that have been made. Sometimes it is just about saying you were there at the same place as the famous person was.
    And sometimes new travelers do not know the city or how to spend their downtime from the hobby so they look for something to make the trip interesting. I get it. Even at a couple sessions a day it's usually not more than 5 hours of time occupied. And if you are doing strip clubs and casas that's a couple hours by day, few hours by night. Then what? I have one good friend and an acquaintance from a different mongering destination and neither want to visit Medellin because they want more than a chica scene. They are looking for a beach, an outdoor playground. There actually is plenty of adventure available in MDE imo with hang gliding, helicopter rides, day trips, excursions to parks. But it's landlocked and not for everyone. Myself, I am perfectly happy without all the stress and exhaustion that comes with sightseeing, adventures and tours.

  4. #22320
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    (I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)

    I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!

    If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.

    If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.

    I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.
    But Medellin is not London, New York, or Chicago. Before I go to a new place I look on TripAdvisor under the things to do tab. I think the Escobar tour was one of the top things to do in Medellin. Otherwise I would have never even known about it. And it was very interesting to hear the stories. Of course it was nothing you could not have read beforehand or seen in the documentaries that have been made. Sometimes it is just about saying you were there at the same place as the famous person was.

  5. #22319
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    (I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)

    I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!

    If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.

    If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.

    I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.
    Because the impact Escobar had on the country even the world was enormous. He is probably the most known person from Colombia in the world. Al Capone is not the most famous person from USA.

  6. #22318
    Quote Originally Posted by Sargent50  [View Original Post]
    Who does the best in MDE?
    (I don't mean to reply specifically to YOU. Mine is more a general comment)

    I really don't understand all this hype and big interest for "Pablo Escobar Tours"!

    If I go to Chicago, the lasts thing I would be interested to visit would be the places of Al Capone.

    If I go to London, I have the British Museum, the V&A Museum, LOTS of incredible things to visit, but I would never waste half day to check the alley of Jack The Ripper.

    I never heard about people travelling to USA and spending half day to look for the house of John Dillinger or Jesse James! Plenty of more interesting places to visit.

  7. #22317

    Uber Escobar tour.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sargent50  [View Original Post]
    Who does the best in MDE?
    Use an Uber driver. In December, I went to the Grave, his 'Prison' & the 'safe' house where he was killed for about $20. Very easy!

    El Mechanico.

  8. #22316

    Communication

    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderRider  [View Original Post]
    Look. , they think, they emote, they process the world, they speak. In Spanish. , specifically a unique and beautiful, flowery Paisa Spanish, nothing else. And, I for one, hope this never changes.
    And they all are pretty comfortable using Google Translate on your phone to make the arrangements to transfer pesos from your pocket to their purse for services rendered.

  9. #22315
    Quote Originally Posted by Sargent50  [View Original Post]
    Who does the best in MDE?
    Just look up the locations and uber. It'll cost half the price and you can go on your own schedule.

  10. #22314

    Escobar tour

    Who does the best in MDE?

  11. #22313
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike963  [View Original Post]
    Hello mates,

    I am planning to visit Medellin in June for few days, now the most important thing, I speak only English! God dam!

    Now that is why this, any reference to any girls to can communicate in English. Will be very helpful.

    Looking forward to hear from you.
    Look. , they think, they emote, they process the world, they speak. In Spanish. , specifically a unique and beautiful, flowery Paisa Spanish, nothing else. And, I for one, hope this never changes.

  12. #22312

    Planning a visit to Medelin in June

    Hello mates,

    I am planning to visit Medellin in June for few days, now the most important thing, I speak only English! God dam!

    Now that is why this, any reference to any girls to can communicate in English. Will be very helpful.

    Looking forward to hear from you.

  13. #22311
    Quote Originally Posted by SavePros321  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for dropping the link to this. Very interesting. Popeye talks about offing hundreds of police officers and politicians and is walking around Medellin like a superstar. Even making movies!
    It was only for the interview however when he was asked how much would a hit cost today, he replied that it would cost $50 K here (meaning a high estrato area under surveillance) and $1 or a cost of a bullet there (in a troubled or poor area where there is no surveillance or there is a guerilla activity). The lesson is very simple, stay at good areas, and if you don't provoke anyone then you can lessen the chances of a random assault.

  14. #22310
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    He must be protected? Life is cheap in Colombia so why would not he have enemies willing to end his life?
    Actually he was the victim of an armed robbery late in 2016. I believe he was walking around his nice neighborhood and was victim of the typical 2 guys on a moto robbery. I was down there at the time and read about it in the local newspapers.

    I found it somewhat amusing- ironic as his quotes were to the effect of complaining about the violence and lawlessnes in the City.

  15. #22309
    Quote Originally Posted by SavePros321  [View Original Post]
    Popeye talks about offing hundreds of police officers and politicians and is walking around Medellin like a superstar. Even making movies!
    He must be protected? Life is cheap in Colombia so why would not he have enemies willing to end his life?

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