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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    Inefficient and dumbfounding. You check in at the store, wait, then eventually get called to sit at a desk with an employee. That person slowly prepares the requisition of what you are purchasing and sends you to a payment line. It might only be 3 people deep but you will stand in that line for 20 minutes. Meanwhile, your original employee gets that time to sit and do nothing but wait on you. It's free time for that person. They do nothing but wait on you to come back with proof of purchase, finish your deal, send you on your way. Makes no sense but they think it's normal.

    Between the supermarkets and phone stores Colombians must spend a third of their days waiting in lines.
    100% correct. Phone store. Ok you go pay for that SIM card why I sit here and look at my what's app. Once you come back off that line I'll install your SIM card after I see your receipt. Just a extra un-needed step because of no trust. This is why families wait on three different lines at supermarket. I always get on the wrong line where the guy is putting minutes on phone and making a payment on his xito charge card. Going to the bank. Better bring a Magazine cause you can't use your phone while waiting. Still, I'm happier here then in the states where I'm invisible.

  2. #22122
    Quote Originally Posted by Bbrocs  [View Original Post]
    No that would be to easy. Colombia is all about the two step process.
    Inefficient and dumbfounding. You check in at the store, wait, then eventually get called to sit at a desk with an employee. That person slowly prepares the requisition of what you are purchasing and sends you to a payment line. It might only be 3 people deep but you will stand in that line for 20 minutes. Meanwhile, your original employee gets that time to sit and do nothing but wait on you. It's free time for that person. They do nothing but wait on you to come back with proof of purchase, finish your deal, send you on your way. Makes no sense but they think it's normal.

    Between the supermarkets and phone stores Colombians must spend a third of their days waiting in lines.

  3. #22121
    Quote Originally Posted by You69Me  [View Original Post]
    Can't you buy SIM cards with Data plans like in Panama from a Vending machine.
    No that would be to easy. Colombia is all about the two step process.

  4. #22120

    Colombia SIM Cards

    Can't you buy SIM cards with Data plans like in Panama from a Vending machine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bbrocs  [View Original Post]
    Here's a handy how to add data to your smart phone. Both claro and tigo use the same process. After putting money on your cell phone. Dial *611#.

    A box will open. Press 1 for Paq Datos. And hit send.

    Another box will open. I press 1 for Paq datos cobro unica vez and hit send.

    Next menu asks do you have a smart phone, blackberry. I press 1 for smart phone and hit send.

    Next menu shows a 1 day pack, but I want other options so I press 2 for Mas Paquetes. And hit send.

    Next menu is 1 DIA, 2 semana, 3 for 2 week 4 is month. You pick the one that you need, and hit send.

    I pressed 2 for semana for the week and it shows that its 15,000 pesos. I press 1 hit send.

    Next menu asks to confirm it. You do and you are all set. For the week as long as you have 15,000 on phone.

    If there is another plan in operation that will finish and then this will start.

  5. #22119
    The camgirl topic pivoted into a few interesting different dimensions.

    Just like there are prepagos from agencies on the upper end who ask in excess of US rates*, there are camgirls and sites on the high end. Livejasmin is certainly one example. Sure chatturbate has some stars as well, but unlike some sites, there is a huge cross section of all types there.

    *of course there is a huge difference in raw material quality between US and COL for the same $.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I know of one cam girl, who was making good money, until her boyfriend talked her into becoming a prepago. Last I heard she was making less and still with the BF.

    I know one camgirl who is supporting 2 family members, living in a great place, with about $50 k USD in the bank, no debt and a growing business. Her boyfriend has a solid, well paid job and doesn't get 1 peso.

    Most have no concept of money and no business skills. Some have a lot of business savvy.

  6. #22118

    Codes for data cell phone

    Here's a handy how to add data to your smart phone. Both claro and tigo use the same process. After putting money on your cell phone. Dial *611#.

    A box will open. Press 1 for Paq Datos. And hit send.

    Another box will open. I press 1 for Paq datos cobro unica vez and hit send.

    Next menu asks do you have a smart phone, blackberry. I press 1 for smart phone and hit send.

    Next menu shows a 1 day pack, but I want other options so I press 2 for Mas Paquetes. And hit send.

    Next menu is 1 DIA, 2 semana, 3 for 2 week 4 is month. You pick the one that you need, and hit send.

    I pressed 2 for semana for the week and it shows that its 15,000 pesos. I press 1 hit send.

    Next menu asks to confirm it. You do and you are all set. For the week as long as you have 15,000 on phone.

    If there is another plan in operation that will finish and then this will start.

  7. #22117
    Quote Originally Posted by KeeperNight4  [View Original Post]
    After 2-3 weeks you need to have cell phone registered using cedula. Some people say can register with USA Passport using 611 Customer service with claro. I'm still trying to figure it out.
    I went in to there office in one of the main malls in town. Took 5 minutes. USA passport was fine.

  8. #22116
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    It's that I bought my SIM card (Movistar) several years ago, when they did not force expiration after few months without using and topping up. Any SIM card bought today expires as yours. I am keeping my old SIM card as gold.

    Also, others talk about registering the "cell phone" with an ID. I am not in Colombia now and I cannot check personally how it works, but I would reasonably say that it's the SIM CARD that you need to register, not certainly the phone. It's possible in theory to register the IMEI of a phone associating it to a legitimate ID, to prevent theft or illegal usage, but as far as I know nobody does that in the world. Even the "black list" of stolen phones, supposedly managed and shared by operators, is not effective to prevent frauds and thefts. If they steal your phone, you will use the manufacturer feature to lock it from remote.
    If your phone sim is claro you need to register your unlocked cell phone if you didn't buy it from them. I started getting text messages that I was going to be blocked in 5 days if I didn't come in and register the phone. But I also had issues when I first got the sim card I did it with a drivers license. They used my street address as my first name. I became Jefferson in the system. Had to bring in a copy of that drivers license to get it changed. I am so set now. Tigo doesn't make you do this. Neither does the sim card you can buy at exito movil exito sim. Most carriers want to see ID to buy a sim card. Claro wants to see either bill of sale for US phone or they might block your IMEI.

  9. #22115
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    Curious. How did you know it was a boyfriend?
    It was pretty obvious at the start. She had his photos on her phone (lots of them), on facebook etc. She would say "good friend. " She wouldn't say "mi amigo. " It was a line he taught her to use with gringos. I know some of her family and they told me they knew he was always using her. I believe the term is 'gastar su ahorro' or 'spend her savings. ' I found it amusing they believe she had like a savings account with money in it. The girl never worked a day in her life. The thing about Colombians is they will accept a fantastical lie over looking at the truth. So their fake-boobed niece was actually working a respectable job despite always being on vacation somewhere, while the evil boyfriend never worked and spent her money. I think that was the fantasy her aunt had.

    Anyway this was a long time ago. I didn't stay in touch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    I knew she was telling the truth about her money being gone because she couldn't even afford a few bucks for phone data. I asked if she had a BF taking her money, she said "no, never". I think they are just live-for-the-day people that tend to waste money on crap then get desperate. It's baffling.
    I'm not calling her a liar although she probably was. They probably managed their money like idiots and the novio likely had a drug problem.

    EDIT: BTW, if you're wondering if theprepago you're fucking regularly has a boyfriend the answer is 'yes she does. she absolutely does.' If she has a kid then its the kids father. If she was married then its her ex husband who pops in and out of her life. If not then its some guy who is fucking her and some other girls. They always have a boyfriend. Every last one of them. Sometimes the boyfriend knows and sometimes he doesn't. Thats the only difference.

  10. #22114
    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    She'll continue doing it the wrong way and make less. You guys always assume these prepagos have business savvy. Most of them have a novio who is busy spending their money. I remember this one prepago kept telling me she was a 'money making machine' like she was proud of it. She couldn't even afford underwear and she was a good looking girl too. The boyfriend spent almost every dime she earned.
    I know of one cam girl, who was making good money, until her boyfriend talked her into becoming a prepago. Last I heard she was making less and still with the BF.

    I know one camgirl who is supporting 2 family members, living in a great place, with about $50 k USD in the bank, no debt and a growing business. Her boyfriend has a solid, well paid job and doesn't get 1 peso.

    Most have no concept of money and no business skills. Some have a lot of business savvy.

  11. #22113
    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    She'll continue doing it the wrong way and make less. You guys always assume these prepagos have business savvy. Most of them have a novio who is busy spending their money. I remember this one prepago kept telling me she was a 'money making machine' like she was proud of it. She couldn't even afford underwear and she was a good looking girl too. The boyfriend spent almost every dime she earned.
    Curious. How did you know it was a boyfriend? I knew a girl who would make decent money from me during a couple of my trips then act like she was broke within a couple of weeks. I knew she would see other guys as well so figured she was making plenty of money overall. I just could never understand how she would have spent all her money without paying for the things that were important- apartment, child, etc. I knew she was telling the truth about her money being gone because she couldn't even afford a few bucks for phone data. I asked if she had a BF taking her money, she said "no, never". I think they are just live-for-the-day people that tend to waste money on crap then get desperate. It's baffling.

  12. #22112
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    An estrato 2 or 3 girl is going to be stuck as a hairdresser or waitress. No real hope of anything better, unless she starts selling herself. Then she can afford an estrato 6 lifestyle. Given the choice of making the same money sitting in front of a computer or laying under an old, fat gringo, what will most chicas choose?

    Of course, until they can afford a laptop and high speed internet, they don't have the webcam option.
    She'll continue doing it the wrong way and make less. You guys always assume these prepagos have business savvy. Most of them have a novio who is busy spending their money. I remember this one prepago kept telling me she was a 'money making machine' like she was proud of it. She couldn't even afford underwear and she was a good looking girl too. The boyfriend spent almost every dime she earned.

  13. #22111
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I think you'll find it's come a long, long way since then. The top models in the US are making $1 million (that's dollars) per year. Top models in Colombia are pulling half that, but with cost of living difference, it's about the same money. The big studios have annual payrolls of $10 - $20 million, just for support personnel, that doesn't include the models. They are using professional makeup artists, hairdressers, decorators and theatrical directors. Instead of grubby little backrooms they're set up in Poblado and Laureles.
    Sounds incredible, almost ridiculous. But I guess it could be. It must be a little known secret or why wouldn't most of the best looking girls in MDE be doing it? $500 k x two years and she's done. House paid, money banked. Myself, I have never seen a webcam site.

  14. #22110
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Impressive, but not especially effective to counter those who cannot opt for the low-carb diet but have a 15 cm knife or gun in the back pocket.
    Oh yeah if there's a weapon involved just hand over the money. I do t more for the girl's, on the Sugar Baby sites they see your pic too.

  15. #22109
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    It's a good hustle that's been around in various forms since the first cheap webcams and internet access. In the 90's you would find places around Latin America with a Internet access PCs in booths (sometimes with curtains for heavy porn watchers) and phone booths in the front room and a back room with girls doing cam gigs. The marketing changes but it's the same hustle. It works from many angles. Some girls prefer it because they know the worse they can catch is itchy pussy from the chair they sit in. LOL!
    I think you'll find it's come a long, long way since then. The top models in the US are making $1 million (that's dollars) per year. Top models in Colombia are pulling half that, but with cost of living difference, it's about the same money. The big studios have annual payrolls of $10 - $20 million, just for support personnel, that doesn't include the models. They are using professional makeup artists, hairdressers, decorators and theatrical directors. Instead of grubby little backrooms they're set up in Poblado and Laureles.

    There are still the grubby little backroom, with a mattress on the floor and a cheap laptop, run by wannabe pimps, but they are struggling to make $50/ day.

    I wouldn't call it a hustle. There's a market. Whenever there's a market, someone is going to take advantage of it. Medellin is a good spot to fill that market. Cost of living is low, available standard of living is high, there is an abundant supply of young, beautiful women and the sex tourism helps drive the women to the studios.

    An estrato 2 or 3 girl is going to be stuck as a hairdresser or waitress. No real hope of anything better, unless she starts selling herself. Then she can afford an estrato 6 lifestyle. Given the choice of making the same money sitting in front of a computer or laying under an old, fat gringo, what will most chicas choose?

    Of course, until they can afford a laptop and high speed internet, they don't have the webcam option.

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