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  1. #3838

    Need guide

    Hi,

    I'm going to Lima / Miraflores for the 1st week of July. Will be spending 3-4 nights in Lima and Miraflores and the other 3 nights in Cusco / Machu Picchu. Would love to hear from a professional guide for the time spent in the city for some fun. Please PM.

    Thanks.

  2. #3837
    Quote Originally Posted by Parkinsons  [View Original Post]
    Haha if DownUnderMonger is for real from down under, then he must've had Qantas airlines on his mind.
    I thought the same thing but QANTAS is an acronym for Queensland and Northern Territories Air Service, which is why you always see it in all caps. For you perverts who want doggie style, in South America it is referred to as 'en cuatro patas. ' (on all four paws). Sometimes the woman will say '¿Quieres ponerme en cuatro?' = do you want to do me doggie?

  3. #3836

    Ploughman. Good report.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ploughman  [View Original Post]
    You know you're in a dodgy place when there are signs on the wall asking customers not to try to do it without condoms. Am sure some guys try offering extra money or making "sin condon" part of the negotiation and a few of the women accept. That kind of place.
    Guilty as charged! Sin condon for BJ, yeah why not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ploughman  [View Original Post]
    I'd seen some pretty dumpy places with tiny rooms and all-locals crowds in places in Southeast Asia, so the concept wasn't new. But unlike over there, in Peru the low price point really pinched the quality. Writing a description of the place would be worthy of a final exam in a descriptive writing class, what with the pink lights, dark corners, general filth, etc. Reminds me a bit of the legendary Chungking and Mirador Mansions in Hong Kong, which aren't brothels but do have lots of areas that don't get cleaned. Am glad I got to see it but won't be heading back.
    ChungKing Masion in Hong Kong! Ha that's not a totally strange comparison. But I guess Kowloon Walled City, before it was torn down, is more like it. Sorry you didn't see any girls worth your while. Once the initial uneasy "novelty" wore off, I was able to get in full participating mode and found quite many doable girls there.

  4. #3835

    El Trocadero, Las Cucardas, etc. (notes from trip)

    Thought I'd post notes from a recently completed trip, even though I only did the mongering part sort of halfheartedly and didn't break much new ground. Maybe there's a detail of use to someone.

    Stayed in one of the hostels that had private rooms for $25 (tiny shared bath) in Miraflores for 4 nights. Not a great setting to bring anyone back (and I'm 98% sure they wouldn't allow), but the location was outstanding and the room pretty good for the cost. Other activities included a touristy thing or two around Miraflores, trying the food, and going downtown to rummage some of the collectibles places around Quilca Street. That last activity put me near plaza San Martin, so after getting s7. 50 pico sour or two at Roko's I took the taxi in search of El Trocadero.

    Some of the taxis would hold out the "Callao" sign and were shared and at s10, if I remember correctly, which got me to Minka center (a big but not distinctive looking mall). I figured the taxis from there would be more knowledgeable anyway and I speak Spanish based on 5 years of study 35 years ago and not much practice, so I knew enough to make mistakes not available to the average visitor.

    The guy looked like he was practically taking me to the port when I decided we had to be on the wrong track. I repeated "El Trocadero" several times and said it was acerca de Minka (close to, not far). Finally something clicked and he took me down this busy and dusty side road through a desolate looking area to a lot and busy drop-off area. "Oh, El Troc!" he said...I guess that that's what locals asked for and what he understood. After some arguing I gave him s13 for the trouble even though the ride probably should have been more like s5-10.

    This was around 6:30 pm On a Wednesday evening, by the way. It was s10 to get in, as mentioned. I started walking around. Someone mentioned John Waters. Well, most of the girls could have auditioned for one of his female characters, as the "before" of Rosie O'Donnell would be cute by comparison. The place was sprawling, but looked like it could have been a cellblock except they keep the prisons cleaner. I forget the pricing guidance, but with maybe 40-50% of rooms occupied I found only one girl that might be semi-doable, and she looked a bit zoned. The rest were maybe 3-6 at best and possibly as heavy as you. About the only thing missing compared to the dump in Iquitos was the level of heat and humidity.

    You know you're in a dodgy place when there are signs on the wall asking customers not to try to do it without condoms. Am sure some guys try offering extra money or making "sin condon" part of the negotiation and a few of the women accept. That kind of place.

    I'd seen some pretty dumpy places with tiny rooms and all-locals crowds in places in Southeast Asia, so the concept wasn't new. But unlike over there, in Peru the low price point really pinched the quality. Writing a description of the place would be worthy of a final exam in a descriptive writing class, what with the pink lights, dark corners, general filth, etc. Reminds me a bit of the legendary Chungking and Mirador Mansions in Hong Kong, which aren't brothels but do have lots of areas that don't get cleaned. Am glad I got to see it but won't be heading back.

    Got a taxi to head back toward downtown and Las Cucardas. Admission is s35 including a coupon for a free drink (though it's only good at the downstairs bar, not the upstairs (and a Cuba libre is the only stated firewater choice (or gaseosas (soft drinks)). They're VERY security conscious and pat down everyone and want you to check everything, notably cellphones but also other stuff. I had a pen in my pocket and they wanted that to go with my checked stuff. The manager was good natured about all of it, though.

    The difference in girl quality was immediately noticeable, with about 85% I'd consider doable and some real stunners. A favorite from the last trip was able to rock a Brazilian bikini, which few girls could pull of. Most weren't quite at that level but could wear swimwear tops or skimpy outfits to show off assets.

    Standard rate is s80 and most girls collect in advance. Rooms have bidets and you get the Nevada-style washing of the important parts, often self-serve. I always being my own raincoats from the USA And haven't had a problem with that. There's no official time limit, but you have to try to get a sense for attitude and it's better to go in less-busy times to get a longer course of service. You can also tip, though I was unsure of protocols there and didn't want to ruin the market.

    Once again without asking nationality in advance I picked one from Ecuador with the waist-long black hair and nice shape. I guess I need to go to that country (porn star Zoey Kush is from there. Take that, Shakira!) She got the job done with the CBJ and three positions or so. It may have gone slightly over the usual time, but I left satisfied.

    For the trip back to Miraflores, by the way, I went all Cheap Charlie (or Carlos Barato?) and walked the short walk past La Playa to the main street (on the north side) and caught a taxi at s5 to Plaza Dos De Mayo and the Metro back to Miraflores.

    On night #2 (Thursday), it was the same sort of plan, though I took the taxi straight from San Martin Square to Las Cucardas. The driver wouldn't go below s10 and I could see the problem was traffic at the 6:30-ish hour. It moved slowly to and through the 2 de Mayo Plaza and finally cleared not far from the soi (hehe. I mean, calle. You can tell I've been to Thailand too much).

    This time I chose initially too much based on looks and did so on the first pass, and I got another one from Ecuador who was about a 7. 5 but either did the session too quickly, was too loose down there or both. Almost happened but not quite, and she wasn't as patient as the girl from the night before (who I'd looked for but wasn't there). So I took a rest break in the bar and the comfy seats, bought a Cusquena at s15 (cocktail prices look steep but beer is semi-reasonable) and relaxed a bit. I was the only obvious foreigner in the place, though locals were totally cool about it.

    When I thought I had some energy back I reminded myself of the don't-pick-the-cutest-girl bit and went for a curvier but still proportional one who was second-tier but gave the right attitude vibe. Not from Ecuador, it turned out, but from Piura, which is close to Ecuador. She got the rest of the job done by mid-session. It felt totally cool to be able to afford to take two if needed.

    Night #3 (Friday) was my last before moving on to Chile. Crowds were NOTICEABLY larger even by 7 pm And I could see supply-demand would be a problem. I took Piura girl again but didn't get the desired result in the allotted time. Maybe the blue pill was a dud, as I remembered it had been from a different (generic) batch and not the ones I'd gotten locally. Sensitivity has never been easy and I'll use the thin polyurethane rubbers, but usually a buildup (like an oil massage) produces much better results. Places I've been so far in South America are oriented toward people who can do quick shots, sometimes even in cramped quarters were uncomfortable positions are the only ones possible. I guess they haven't gotten the memo that not everyone is 18-30.

    Oh, well. The girl was pleasant, I can't complain for the price, and I sorta knew there was less chance of success on a third night in a row. I decided against trying another chica, as most rooms were in use and there were far more guys than girls that night (payday and all that.) They had the strip show going with the smoke to give the guys waiting some entertainment on the first floor. It was more like a costumed striptease for most girls and very tame by USA Standards.

    So the place is highly recommended overall, especially if you were in my situation and wanted a piece-rate solution rather than a more time-consuming take-home and possible GFE. I would definitely favor going on a weekday, though, when supply / demand would be more favorable. It's not nearly as fun when guys outnumber girls 2-1 and nearly every room is busy.

  5. #3834
    When needing a bathroom to take a deuce and while in a shady area with only brothels and short time hotels around, just being honest saying that I really need to use a bathroom and asking for help has always worked for me in Colombia. I also offer to pay for the use of the bathroom and that had closed the deal in most cases, but some people / places I found were kind with me and did not taken any money from me.

    Lima is on my radar Parkinson. I'm glad you wrote those trip reports. I have some questions thought.

    1) any places you would recommend for staying (hotel or apartments) for a guy on a on a budget Like me (I try not to pay more than 35 usd in any country I go) a safe area and a good bed and a clean quiet place and not too far from the action is all I care. I'm looking forward to checking las Cucardas and el Trocadero. If I go, I will also check anaconda for you since you missed that one LOL.

    2) How do you compared / rate the Peruvian chicas to Colombians and Dominicans in terms of attractiveness, attitude, greediness (Dominicans are winners her I think), cleanliness, sex, affection, etc and also their people in general?

    3) how you like your trip overall? Would you repeat Peru or one time was enough for you? If you say you rather go to Dr or Colombia then I know the answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Parkinsons  [View Original Post]
    Haha if DownUnderMonger is for real from down under, then he must've had Qantas airlines on his

    BTW I didn't share this in my final Lima report: That afternoon when I was making the trip on foot from Plaza San Martin to La Gammara, (it was quite a hike) it was hot, I was getting tired and I had to drop a deuce. I remember Cerebro your post from Bogota so I took inspiration and was looking for a hostal / cabana / love motel where I could pay to stay for a few hours to drop my load, rest, or even take a shower. So I stopped at one, rang the bell and the caretaker came to the gate. He told me it was 20 soles for an hour but then asked where's my pareja. I said I was flying solo just needed a place to rest. He said no go my friend. Denied!! Perhaps since this was in a moderately shitty neighborhood they were afraid I would use their room to do drugs or to commit suicide?

  6. #3833
    Quote Originally Posted by Cerebro  [View Original Post]
    Downudermonger,

    Sorry to say it, but your Spanish sucks big time LOL. Well, it gets the job done and that what counts. Its not quanta questo? The correct way is to say cuanto cuesta? 20 is vente not viente. I like how you are creative with some sign language, flipping your hand when you want her to flip and patting bed when you want to fuck. I can imagine how your gestures when you want doggy standing with mouth opened, tongue out, and saying auuuuuh auuuuuh! Cerebro.
    Haha if DownUnderMonger is for real from down under, then he must've had Qantas airlines on his mind.

    BTW I didn't share this in my final Lima report: That afternoon when I was making the trip on foot from Plaza San Martin to La Gammara, (it was quite a hike) it was hot, I was getting tired and I had to drop a deuce. I remember Cerebro your post from Bogota so I took inspiration and was looking for a hostal / cabana / love motel where I could pay to stay for a few hours to drop my load, rest, or even take a shower. So I stopped at one, rang the bell and the caretaker came to the gate. He told me it was 20 soles for an hour but then asked where's my pareja. I said I was flying solo just needed a place to rest. He said no go my friend. Denied!! Perhaps since this was in a moderately shitty neighborhood they were afraid I would use their room to do drugs or to commit suicide?

  7. #3832
    All that is pretty good. You can also use these:

    Cuanto? Means How much? And this word is enough. No need to say cuanto cuesta which is saying How much it cost.

    Que haces= what you do? Or que incluye? Which means, what is included?

    Some will answer: lo normal (normal stuff), sexo (pretty universal in Latin America, sexo con condom, mamada (sucking) similar to Chupar or chupadas, con (with) condon or sin (without), besos or besitos (kisses).

    Mamamelo= suck it.

    Chupamelo= suck it.

    Montate= mount.

    Montateme= mount me. When you want her on top or straddling cowgirl style.

    Acuestate normal= lie down normal. They know you want the missionary position.

    Ponme el condon= put me the condom.

    Te lo quiero meter= I want to fuck you, also mean I want to enter it or go inside.

    Te lo quiero chupar or mamar= I want to suck it (signal the pussy and she will know you want to suck her pussy) or them (signal the tits and it will be her tetas / tits).

    Volteate= turn around. This is a preparation for doggy.

    Dejame ver esas lindas nalgas= let me see that beautiful ass.

    Dejame ver ese culo grande= let me see that big ass.

    Then when she does turn around in doggy position, proceed as planned and you will be banging that ass.

    Overall, I still like your expertise in sign language which you use with confidence. I did not realize making signs and gestures can work wonders with people that don't speak your language. I might try that when I meet a woman that don't speak English or Spanish. But learning a language little by little or making efforts to learn will also make a great difference.

    Cerebro.

    Quote Originally Posted by DownUnderMonger  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Like you said, it gets the job done.
    Complex shit I type on google translate and show it to them.
    But we both know I can't speak spanish but they want my business and put in effort and try and understand. It's a fucking chongo not an entrance exam to PUCP.
    Words needed in a chongo
    chupar - suck
    cachar - fuck
    sin condom - no condom (join above to for negotiation ie. cachar sin condom). add 'por mas' if you want to pay more for it
    vengo en dentro (cum inside... pussy), vengo en boca (cum in mouth)
    perro (doggy)
    espalda (back)
    What else do you reckon Cerebro?

  8. #3831
    LOL. Like you said, it gets the job done.

    Complex shit I type on google translate and show it to them.

    But we both know I can't speak spanish but they want my business and put in effort and try and understand. It's a fucking chongo not an entrance exam to PUCP.

    Words needed in a chongo

    chupar - suck
    cachar - fuck
    sin condom - no condom (join above to for negotiation ie. cachar sin condom). add 'por mas' if you want to pay more for it
    vengo en dentro (cum inside... pussy), vengo en boca (cum in mouth)
    perro (doggy)
    espalda (back)

    What else do you reckon Cerebro?

  9. #3830
    Downudermonger,

    Sorry to say it, but your Spanish sucks big time LOL. Well, it gets the job done and that what counts. Its not quanta questo? The correct way is to say cuanto cuesta? 20 is vente not viente. I like how you are creative with some sign language, flipping your hand when you want her to flip and patting bed when you want to fuck. I can imagine how your gestures when you want doggy standing with mouth opened, tongue out, and saying auuuuuh auuuuuh! Cerebro.

    Quote Originally Posted by DownUnderMonger  [View Original Post]
    My first trip to peru I didn't know much spanish at all.
    Quanta questo? How much.
    For troca its simple, 20 viente, 25 viente-cinco, 30 trenta, 35 trenta-cinco, 40 quarenta.
    In the room just go with the flow, lead her to what you want. Let her suck your cock, pat the bed when you want to fuck, flip your hand if you want her to flip.
    Troco is a much simpler than Anaconda though. They are at the doorway, ask the price, say si, and go in. Anaconda is a bit more complex as you have to get a room and shit.

  10. #3829
    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheSide  [View Original Post]
    Can someone who speak no Spanish get by at Anaconda or El Trocadero?
    My first trip to peru I didn't know much spanish at all.

    Quanta questo? How much.

    For troca its simple, 20 viente, 25 viente-cinco, 30 trenta, 35 trenta-cinco, 40 quarenta.

    In the room just go with the flow, lead her to what you want. Let her suck your cock, pat the bed when you want to fuck, flip your hand if you want her to flip.

    Troco is a much simpler than Anaconda though. They are at the doorway, ask the price, say si, and go in. Anaconda is a bit more complex as you have to get a room and shit.

  11. #3828
    Quote Originally Posted by OnTheSide  [View Original Post]
    Can someone who speak no Spanish get by at Anaconda or El Trocadero?
    I haven't been to Anaconda (and regretting it), but I suspect as in all brothels, there's so little interaction required one can be a mute and can still get by. As long as you know what the price is, you don't even need to discuss with the girls because the price and services are set. Unless you want to ask for extras like BBBJ or Greek. The brothel environment is not set up for getting familiar with the girl, buying her drinks, interviewing her, establishing GFE, none of that. Just walk the halls, see a girl you like, feel her vibe, get in and get out. Is this the best way to monger? Probably not, but for the price point and dearth of other viable options, for a short term visitor / tourist, it'll serve the purpose.

  12. #3827
    Quote Originally Posted by Parkinsons  [View Original Post]
    Shit, wish I had found out about this place earlier. Only on my way to the airport to go home, did the driver tell me about Anaconda. He highly recommended it, saying there are no fatties and oldies unlike El Trocadero, and the talent level is on par with Las Cucardas.
    Can someone who speak no Spanish get by at Anaconda or El Trocadero?

  13. #3826
    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    Did Anaconda re-open?
    Shit, wish I had found out about this place earlier. Only on my way to the airport to go home, did the driver tell me about Anaconda. He highly recommended it, saying there are no fatties and oldies unlike El Trocadero, and the talent level is on par with Las Cucardas.

  14. #3825
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Great report bro. And complete with the picture! Brings back memories. When I was in Lima last month I set out to go to Troc in the early afternoon. I waited for the bus in Lince, but every one that came said they were not going to Callao. Maybe I was on the wrong side. But since they started that big blue bus down Av. Arequipa, I don't know where to catch the smaller buses. Then I decided to go ahead and get a taxi, but every taxi I asked did not want to go that way. After being in the hot sun about an hour, I decided to just go in and take a nap until my girlfriend got off work.
    Yeah it seems like these taxi drivers are used to their routes and don't want to deviate. The reason it was so easy for me was because I'm staying in El Centro near Plaza San Martin, and a lot of people go west to Callao there and vice versa. Today, I was near La Gammara and they didn't want to take me to even Las Cucardas!

    Yes, today I walked all the way from Plaza San Martin to La Gammara and back. I walked down Av. Aviacion and looked for El Naranjito, but all the metal gates in the area were shut.

    I made a second trip to El Trocadero, to have a session with the hot Peruana I chatted with the night before. It was ok, nothing extraordinary. Out of curiosity, I went into Botecito afterwards. Cover is 10 soles (vs 15 at El Troco) and session fee is 25 (vs 30). The talent level definitely is a lot worse there. Also the place is a lot smaller. At El Troco, I counted 6 rows of rooms on the first level, and 2 on the second. Each row has about 30 rooms. The potential is there for 240 girls to fully staff the place, crazy!

    I made a second trip to Las Cucardas this evening. It's Mother's Day, and a Sunday, there were only 7 girls max working. It was bad. I picked a white girl with a huge ass from Ecuador, it wasn't bad. So that concludes my short trip to Lima. Mr. E is right that mongering in Lima is not as rewarding as civilian-dating, but of course that's like saying hamburgers are not as delicious as New York strips. Not for lack of trying though, I had 2 cupid chicks flaked out on me. Even a massage chick I coaxed an HJ from, said we could meet up later that night, but when I called her, she hung up on me!

    The massage I got was from one of the many stalls in a cell phone / clothing shopping place near Pierola and Abancay. They are supposed to be legit because the massages are solid LOL. Costs 20 soles for a 40 minute massage!

    There are street walkers in the day time at Ugarte and Zepita. At night there are some on Pierola (Colmena). If you're desperate or adventurous enough.

    I did a lot of touristy stuff and the amount of wealth the Spanish empire had in Lima is amazing. I took a 4 hour (RT) boat ride to swim with sea lions in their natural habitat, it was a wonderful experience. I went to Palvos Azules just to shop at a DVD stall where they have almost every art / independent film. Of course they are bootlegs, 3 DVDs for 10 soles. They have every Woody Allen and John Waters films. I asked for an Indian film and they even had that. BTW, the shop was featured in a short Vice Media segment (find on YouTube). Finally, the food in Lima is awesome. Although. The prices aren't cheap. I think the pollo a la brasa there are almost the same price as in the US.

  15. #3824
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Great report bro. And complete with the picture! Brings back memories. When I was in Lima last month I set out to go to Troc in the early afternoon. I waited for the bus in Lince, but every one that came said they were not going to Callao. Maybe I was on the wrong side. But since they started that big blue bus down Av. Arequipa, I don't know where to catch the smaller buses. Then I decided to go ahead and get a taxi, but every taxi I asked did not want to go that way. After being in the hot sun about an hour, I decided to just go in and take a nap until my girlfriend got off work.
    Yeah it seems like these taxi drivers are used to their routes and don't want to deviate. The reason it was so easy for me was because I'm staying in El Centro near Plaza San Martin, and a lot of people go west to Callao there and vice versa. Today, I was near La Gammara and they didn't want to take me to even Las Cucardas!

    Yes, today I walked all the way from Plaza San Martin to La Gammara and back. I walked down Av. Aviacion and looked for El Naranjito, but all the metal gates in the area were shut.

    I made a second trip to El Trocadero, to have a session with the hot Peruana I chatted with the night before. It was ok, nothing extraordinary. Out of curiosity, I went into Botecito afterwards. Cover is 10 soles (vs 15 at El Troco) and session fee is 25 (vs 30). The talent level definitely is a lot worse there. Also the place is a lot smaller. At El Troco, I counted 6 rows of rooms on the first level, and 2 on the second. Each row has about 30 rooms. The potential is there for 240 girls to fully staff the place, crazy!

    I made a second trip to Las Cucardas this evening. It's Mother's Day, and a Sunday, there were only 7 girls max working. It was bad. I picked a white girl with a huge ass from Ecuador, it wasn't bad. So that concludes my short trip to Lima. Mr. E is right that mongering in Lima is not as rewarding as civilian-dating, but of course that's like saying hamburgers are not as delicious as New York strips. Not for lack of trying though, I had 2 cupid chicks flaked out on me. Even a massage chick I coaxed an HJ from, said we could meet up later that night, but when I called her, she hung up on me!

    The massage I got was from one of the many stalls in a cell phone / clothing shopping place near Pierola and Abancay. They are supposed to be legit because the massages are solid LOL. Costs 20 soles for a 40 minute massage!

    There are street walkers in the day time at Ugarte and Zepita. At night there are some on Pierola (Colmena). If you're desperate or adventurous enough.

    I did a lot of touristy stuff and the amount of wealth the Spanish empire had in Lima is amazing. I took a 4 hour (RT) boat ride to swim with sea lions in their natural habitat, it was a wonderful experience. I went to Palvos Azules just to shop at a DVD stall where they have almost every art / independent film. Of course they are bootlegs, 3 DVDs for 10 soles. They have every Woody Allen and John Waters films. I asked for an Indian film and they even had that. BTW, the shop was featured in a short Vice Media segment (find on YouTube). Finally, the food in Lima is awesome. Although. The prices aren't cheap. I think the pollo a la brasa there are almost the same price as in the US.

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