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  1. #3337
    Quote Originally Posted by MassimoPotente  [View Original Post]
    They walk around / sit around naked or almost naked. Some girls wear panties sometimes but usually they don't. Mondays used to be lingerie days but I am not certain if that is still a thing anymore.

    As for the question which weekdays can be overcrowded. I don't think any day is overcrowded at the moment. If any, then Friday and Saturday. Sunday is very weak and Monday often too.
    Hey guys,

    If I may ask a silly question and please forgive me for being naive on the matter as I am a newbie. I m prob going to stop by Goldentime during my brief visit to Vienna. When exactly does the terrace (which I understand GT has) open up? I heard it's a nice place to escape to between sessions for some downtime. Otherwise it's tough finding an area to just lounge in, especially if it's crowded?

    Thanks.

  2. #3336

    Eva Starks back in GT.

    Just when we gave up searching for Eva she suddenly appears back in GT. That's all the Information I have so far. She didn't recognize me yet.

    Some guys will be pretty happy about this.

    BTW, this is live from GT in scorching heat on the outside.

  3. #3335

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  4. #3334
    Quote Originally Posted by MaloneJE  [View Original Post]
    Does anybody know if the girls at Goldentime in Vienna all walk around completely naked, or do they wear bra / panties?

    Are there any lingerie nights, where the girls all must wear a bra / panties?
    They walk around / sit around naked or almost naked. Some girls wear panties sometimes but usually they don't. Mondays used to be lingerie days but I am not certain if that is still a thing anymore.

    As for the question which weekdays can be overcrowded. I don't think any day is overcrowded at the moment. If any, then Friday and Saturday. Sunday is very weak and Monday often too.

  5. #3333

    FKK Goldentime.

    Does anybody know if the girls at Goldentime in Vienna all walk around completely naked, or do they wear bra / panties?

    Are there any lingerie nights, where the girls all must wear a bra / panties?

  6. #3332
    Quote Originally Posted by Dubner32  [View Original Post]
    Pistons, Agree your previous post. I used to go to Lugano from Milano area, mainly Ocean. Absolutely no comparison with Marina (SLO) or Welcum / Andiamo (A).

    Ocean featured low quality, massive upselling in room and poor service. Any Italian with a machina, a wallet and a brain would go noerth east.
    I have met some girls in various clubs who have left the Lugano clubs behind, so I've heard some stories. Aurora at Wellcum being one, basically saying Lugano is useless these days. And I met a great girl at Oceans in Düsseldorf last year who had just come from a Lugano club too. But she told me the clubs there were small. Unfortunately I only saw her once and was a bit tempted to check out the Lugano scene, but I've changed my mind.

  7. #3331
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    So why do you think almost everyone moved from Andiamo to Wellcum? Girls and clients?
    It felt to me that the skilled part of Andiamo's management left or was removed and eventually ended up at Wellcum. And like that the power shifted. I am not really sure that this is true but so it seemed reasonable enough to believe that.

  8. #3330
    Hey guys,

    I am planning to visit Vienna soon and thinking to visit GT.

    Would like to know if there is any weekday it will be too overcrowded with men?

  9. #3329

    Going North from Italy.

    Pistons, Agree your previous post. I used to go to Lugano from Milano area, mainly Ocean. Absolutely no comparison with Marina (SLO) or Welcum / Andiamo (A).

    Ocean featured low quality, massive upselling in room and poor service. Any Italian with a machina, a wallet and a brain would go noerth east.

  10. #3328
    I have to add though, Wellcum is not really dominating everyone in the area, the competition from Marina in Slovenia is much larger than the Andiamo competition. Easily seen when talking to all the Italians. And Marina is a new club as well, and about the same age as Wellcum I suppose. It is not quite as good as Wellcum, but it does take a fair market share and has a better location from an Italian point of view. Whereas before, the Italians had Andiamo as an alternative. Or they had to go to Switzerland further west and pay higher prices. Now with Marina and Wellcum opening, the Swiss clubs seems to have lost some of their Italian customers too. The rates in the Lugano clubs have dropped heavily the last 5-10 years. I wonder if this is part of the reason.

  11. #3327
    Quote Originally Posted by MassimoPotente  [View Original Post]
    Wellcum is a different animal. Its design is superior for sure (although Andiamo is basically the same design style) and they dominate everything in their area with relative ease. Despite the fact that Andiamo was the first mover and used to be a major force. What you see in Wellcum now in terms of number of clients and girls, Andiamo had all that and more when they were still good.
    So why do you think almost everyone moved from Andiamo to Wellcum? Girls and clients?

  12. #3326
    I think Babylon is for a specific clientele and considering how many rich guys go to Vienna to spend their money, the club is most probably not going to have any issues anytime soon. The pricing in Babylon is out of my budget limit most of the time, and I know that it is not for me.

    On the other hand, there are places like Maxim that offer a good service for a reasonable price for an average Joe like me. The thing I like about the paysex scene in Vienna is that there is something for everyone depending on how much money you want to spend. You can literally choose to spend anywhere from 40 euros all the way up to the Babylon level 700 euro service. Obviously the latter is not for everyone, but I don't think the club is having any financial problems whatsoever.

  13. #3325
    Quote Originally Posted by Itponaus  [View Original Post]
    I think that a design is not the only reason. Wellcum has been designed as sauna club, but GT is quite improvised ("restaurant", rooms, location of saunas). As I know there was a supermarket before.

    Of course, girls offer good services in both clubs, what is most important.
    In GT's case at least it is not the design that sets them apart. Funpalast was never close to being a valid rival even when GT's design was less interesting prior to 2016 when the changes were made. Of course FP's design is super flawed in every imaginable aspect except for sheer size.

    GT has, as far as FKK is concerned, the first-mover advantage and has never given that away. It's reputation is solid and deserved and they are doing a good job keeping the girls satisfied.

    Wellcum is a different animal. Its design is superior for sure (although Andiamo is basically the same design style) and they dominate everything in their area with relative ease. Despite the fact that Andiamo was the first mover and used to be a major force. What you see in Wellcum now in terms of number of clients and girls, Andiamo had all that and more when they were still good.

    I think it is nice that we can speak about so many good, professional and prosperous clubs.

  14. #3324
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Maybe the reason why GT Vienna and Wellcum works, while Fun Palast and Paradise Graz does not work is the focus on design at GT and Wellcum. It was perhaps the one thing that struck me the most, how well the design was done at both clubs. It brings you in the right mood with the right lighting and design, and both places stood out a notch above anything in Germany on this front I felt. So I assume the Austrian and Italian clientelle focusses more on this than the Germans do. And also, the girls might feel better if the place feels right.
    I think that a design is not the only reason. Wellcum has been designed as sauna club, but GT is quite improvised ("restaurant", rooms, location of saunas). As I know there was a supermarket before.

    Of course, girls offer good services in both clubs, what is most important.

  15. #3323
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    I find it perfectly fine to discuss these things on a forum like this.
    Sure, me too and It's all good. And you are making some solid poionts but I have discussed it so often already that I feel like I am part of the "Groundhog Day".

    Besides, nobody is right or wrong here but I feel like I understand the position of each mentioned club quite well. I even feel that I can often predict which one is on the rise and which one isn't. After all every market follows certain business rules. Even if they seem weird to some guys, they are still market and business rules which are not dictated by personal preferences of individual clients. For example I have no fricking clue how Globe in Switzerland is doing so well. I really don't want to be there ever again even if you pay my whole night. And yet they are all the rave for I don't know how long.

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