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  1. #2345
    OK, so this article suggests it wasn't merely the robbers they were targeting but the entire network.

    http://www.lepoint.fr/faits-divers/u...37993_2627.php

  2. #2344
    Thanks for the info Total Newbie.

    So it seems the main concerns are the scumbag robbers rather than the girls or agencies themselves? Which makes sense, I guess. You would think the police officers themselves would have enjoyed the company of the girls on more than several occasions.

    When you think about it, these girls are actually pretty tough characters to be able to deal with the sorts of issues that would terrify most people.

    Fingers crossed the situation will get sorted eventually and things can resume again with these agencies or similar.

  3. #2343
    So, I wanted to let the dust settle a bit and get some more info.

    I didn't link to other forums, since I think it's simply not allowed on ISG. I suppose naming them is fine. There's the very aptly named "RussPuss" forum for Russian ladies discussing agencies, countries, customers, sharing tips, fears, hopes. Google-Translation makes a complete butchery of it, but that's better than nothing if you don't have a good grasp of Russian. There are several French forums for punters posting reviews, comments and occasional infighting / trolling, Youppie being the oldest most famous (but the whole France section has been disabled since prostitution has basically been deemed illegal) and smaller monger forums SexBoard and EscortFR.

    Basically, Amour Russe and Charme Russe were raided, police had all addresses, mandates to intervene, got to all the ladies' places at once, interrogated all of them, searched their phones and the places. No news about what happened to the money and if girls have or will eventually get some back. Both agencies' sites are still down. When it happened, other agencies got understandably afraid, and 6 A Paris section went down from 390 to 320 advertised ladies. It's been going back up since yesterday and numbers are nearly normal now. And many reported, here and elsewhere, that some AR / CR ladies are once again on it, but obviously with a different organization.

    From various RussPuss threads, it was clear that the 2 targeted agencies are / were run by related Armenian people, Charme Russe being more or less a spin-off / offshoot from AR, with probably staff being former Amour Russe people. Though overall, the agencies din't treat their escorts worse than any other Russian ones. There were also various reports of robbers in France / Paris, as happens in some other countries as well. Targeting escorts as easy prey, some scumbags doing it on their own but some being some organized gang. Reading awfully-translated RussPuss threads hadn't made it very clear to me until now who the gangs were. I mean, it's France, one can expects some North African robbers, for instance. Yet I remember a couple occasions where Russian girls were talking of Caucasus, if not downright Armenian, robbers. Yet it wouldn't make much sense that the agencies themselves would rob their own girls.

    Eventually, there was some French news:

    http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-diver...17-7066938.php

    Events described in article seem to have occurred one or two days before the websites were shut down and reports of the raids surfaced, but article refers to 2 Russian agencies and Armenian mob, so there's no doubt it's another side of the whole affair. Basically, France-based underlings of the agencies were threatening and robbing other girls. Odds are, independent ones, since I'm not sure they'd go that aggressively against other agencies, to force them to join their own organization and agencies.

    So, it really looks like this was not a case of French puritanism deciding to rid the country of sin, but police cracking down on nasty "business" practices and what looks like a "mongering" version of protection racket, after some Russian girls complained to French police about these criminal jerks and a year-long thorough investigation. AR and CR ladies were, from what one can suspect, mostly interrogated to check if they were themselves direct victims of threats, violence and robberies, and if they could spill the beans on the boss and the France-based tough guys / staff.

    This explains why other agencies are still running and Russian girls are back on 6 A. The police was acting against some specific crimes, not against escorts-running agencies as a whole. The future of Eastern European France-based ladies isn't fully compromised, though some adaptations could happen. Other agencies could grow bigger and some new might appear. Yet it also means the cops might always keep an eye on the whole business.

    Still no idea if the police caught some clients (if they acted very early on all places, odds are it was too early for "business appointments" if they kept clients' pics, numbers and addresses from seized phones, and if they're going to go after them. Since in these cases, they have fail-proof cases. Still, getting embarrassingly caught in the middle of a raid is a risk, though a low one. For instance, it happened to some punter / reviewer in Prague a few months ago.

    As an aside, this might be a little frustrating for me; I had noticed and heard very good things about fiery redhead Amour Russe's Ilona, but she obviously won't travel with them anymore.

    Even if this might make overall conditions better for them in the long run, I feel quite bad for the Russian ladies who were caught in it. They don't have the easiest job to begin with, and now this wrecks their hard work.

  4. #2342

    Crackdown

    Following on from the two posts below, I was due to meet a regular at Amour Russe this weekend but the site went off with the pictures of the girls on tour pulled down.

    I did pick up the chatter from the Russian chat rooms on Wednesday but then she came back online today that they were raided on the morning she arrived on tour; interrogated for 5 hours and then let go but she had to make her way out of the country with her flatmate. L am not sure if some of the girls are still there. She did say that the Police were looking for the bosses but as we all know they are not in Paris.

    The other worrying thing she said was that customer telephone numbers were being taken by the Police. I do not have confirmation if it was from the agents in France or the girls. All bookings are done by text.

  5. #2341
    Quote Originally Posted by TotalNewbie  [View Original Post]
    From what I gathered from French and Russian forums, both were raided by the French cops, all girls caught and interrogated. Some seem to have been released, but in such cases, one can wonder if they'll be kicked out of the country at once or will be allowed to stay. One lady even reported they caught all their money and didn't give it back. In which case, it's quite hard to go on with your "touristy" stay in Paris.

    I bet their competitors are busy coming with contingency plans in case the cops come for them next.

    Looks like they tried to get the goods on the enablers, but obviously the bosses aren't in Paris, only their underlings. No words if those got caught as well. In which case they would be in way more trouble than the women.
    Fortunately not all girls, some are still working on 6 A.

    Only some Amour and Charme russe girls had problems, but not Aphrodite or Russian girls? Surprising?

    In a scared and sad country, police should better work against terrorism, when dangerous classified guys are allowed to have guns and use them, rather than making problems to lovely Russian girls who just give pleasure to men.

  6. #2340
    Quote Originally Posted by TotalNewbie  [View Original Post]
    From what I gathered from French and Russian forums, both were raided by the French cops, all girls caught and interrogated. Some seem to have been released, but in such cases, one can wonder if they'll be kicked out of the country at once or will be allowed to stay. One lady even reported they caught all their money and didn't give it back. In which case, it's quite hard to go on with your "touristy" stay in Paris.

    I bet their competitors are busy coming with contingency plans in case the cops come for them next.

    Looks like they tried to get the goods on the enablers, but obviously the bosses aren't in Paris, only their underlings. No words if those got caught as well. In which case they would be in way more trouble than the women.
    Damn, that's not good. Would you mind sharing these French / Russian forums so we can keep abreast of the situation?

    Those French cops have just made a whole population of men extremely sad.

  7. #2339

    Police crackdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Siggleii  [View Original Post]
    Are these two agencies in trouble? Their websites are down.
    From what I gathered from French and Russian forums, both were raided by the French cops, all girls caught and interrogated. Some seem to have been released, but in such cases, one can wonder if they'll be kicked out of the country at once or will be allowed to stay. One lady even reported they caught all their money and didn't give it back. In which case, it's quite hard to go on with your "touristy" stay in Paris.

    I bet their competitors are busy coming with contingency plans in case the cops come for them next.

    Looks like they tried to get the goods on the enablers, but obviously the bosses aren't in Paris, only their underlings. No words if those got caught as well. In which case they would be in way more trouble than the women.

  8. #2338
    Quote Originally Posted by Siggleii  [View Original Post]
    Are these two agencies in trouble? Their websites are down.
    Looks like the website is being changed and updated, but it does not appear that Paris has completely fallen to the abolitionists, and in fact some of these soldiers of the Resistance look quite fuckable.

    http://amour-russe.net/our_girls.php

  9. #2337

    Chinese dinner

    Bonsoir, So, I decided to go Chinese tonight. Headed to metro Belleville. Walked on avenue de Villette, in the so-called park (a stretch of non-pedestrian walkway in between two sides of street with benches to sit on and contemplate the action). Lots of halfway doable milfs. Two pretty youngish ones in the mix. Quoted 50 but quickly settled for 30. But did not partake. Not sure what they provide but they sure looked appetizing. Too hot in Paris, though. 38 degrees today. Just unbearable. I am just shagged out. Enjoyed window shopping. Worried about Lea. They have cameras too, you know. And if they catch you in the act you get a nice monger stamp in your passport. Perhaps they also pass info on to authorities stateside so you may have a lot of explaining to do when you arrive on the other side. I am a careful SOB and it just isn't worth it. Take care all of you. I am glad I live in Europe.

  10. #2336

    Amour and Charme Russe

    Are these two agencies in trouble? Their websites are down.

  11. #2335

    Everything you ever wanted to know about Rue ST. Denis

    Not sure why there doesn't seem to be that much interest in the Rue St. Denis street scene--maybe it's because everyone knows about it and it's old news? Or maybe it's because the level of service is pretty bare bones compared to what you can get elsewhere? In any case, I found it to be alive and well, and a convenient place to bust a quick nut, especially if you're into older ladies. Here's what I learned over the course of a little over a week:

    Rue St. Denis - Night

    I only went to RSD once at night, so my observations aren't quite as extensive as they are during the day. As during the day, the WLs work along the stretch of Rue St. Denis between Blvd Saint Denis and Rue Reaumur. When I went, most of the gals were black chicks who speak really good English (mid to late 20's) with a handful of white (French?) ladies thrown into the mix. The black girls quote €50 and are much more aggressive than their white counterparts. I was propositioned by many of them the way street girls in Asia come at you. That is, by grabbing your arm and not letting go, forcing you to explain why you don't want to go with them, etc. One girl saw me checking her out from the far end of a side street, and ran the entire length of the street, calling out to me even after I'd already walked off a good distance. Many of the black chicks are Dope and I regret not being able to try any of them out. Since I'd gone far too long without a taste of the white meat, I chose as my very first French hooker one of the very few Caucasian French ladies working the late shift on Rue St. Denis--a slender late-40's French MILF in glasses with soft natural tits, a pretty face, and pretty good English--who quoted me €70 for about 10-15 minutes of what we would call in Asia "the most SOP service ever. " (Maybe because it was night-time? Or maybe she could smell the my 1st-timer's naivete? In any case, by choosing her over her blonde, big-tits blue-eyed Slavic-looking friend, I'd broken one of the cardinal rules of mongering: Choose not the prettiest girl, but the one who smiles at you first. Serves me right!) At first, she denies being more expensive than all the other girls, but when I press her on it, she tells me it's because she has her own room (which I think is BS because the daytime gals have their own rooms and they're still only €50). With the black girls, she says, I'd have to go to a hotel, which makes me wonder how much a hotel would cost.

    My girl's room is a cozy, red affair with mirrors all around. I note the array of leather and sex toys hanging on the wall, which she tells me are available for more money. Her service is pretty below average, even by Rue St. Denis standards, as I later discover. Perfunctory BJ followed by sterile missionary sex, where she puts both hands on my chest to minimize the contact between us and to keep my face away from hers. And yet she keeps pestering me for a tip. In some places in Asia, folks complain when they have to pay 12 Euro for this level of service, much less 70. Needless to say, I don't tip.

    Rue St. Denis - DAY

    Just as Randy One reported last July, during the day the ladies start showing up in the doorways along Rue St. Denis around late morning. There are a couple of good side streets (Rue Blondel, is particularly active) where you can catch them as well. While a couple are overweight grannies in wigs (some probably in their 70's, and some with seriously monstrous tits!) you also get a good mix of 40's /50's-ish MILFs, and even a few younger gals. The very first lady I saw my first day there (tall, voluptuous, early 60's) was very much to my liking, but I didn't quite know how to approach her in broad daylight right out in the open like that, as Rue St. Denis can be full of regular folks--office workers, kids shopping, construction workers, movers, families, shop owners, etc. This, in addition to the fact that every once in a while you'll see police either driving down the street or hanging out nearby. Strangely enough, the cops seem pretty non-chalant about the all WLs, and sometimes even hang out and chat with them. So it turns out the way to do pick up a gal is to duck into the doorway / alleyway where the lady of your choice is standing. That way you get some semblance of cover as you do your negotiating. Ah, the learning curve!

    The old school French WLs tend to have very nicely furnished, cozy studio apartments nearby where you can go and do the deed. As Randy One mentioned, it's €50 a pop, and I took a couple ladies up on this offer. One was a slender, dark-haired Egyptian beauty whom I really wanted to see again, but she only works one day a week, and I couldn't find her again after that first encounter. Another was a blonde regular who told me she works every day, apparently out of the same doorway. For €50, you get 10-15 minutes of BJ and then missionary FJ. Anything beyond this (in my case, requests for different positions, sucking on titties) will cost you more. My blonde lady wouldn't even take off her bra to let me see her titties at the €50 price point.

    Then there are the WLs who are not of the "old school" type. The most noticeable of these are the group of 10-15 Chinese ladies in their 40's /50's, who hang out along the south side of Boulevard Saint Denis at seemingly all hours of the day and night. I came here almost every day over the period of more than a week, and I saw the same ladies hanging out every single time. There are also trashier-looking WLs on the the north side of Blvd Saint Denis by the Andr้ shop that only seem to appear in the afternoon. And then there's the group of 3 beautiful, voluptuous, yoga pants-wearing, Latin-looking girls in their late 20's (gypsies perhaps?) who were hanging out on Rue St. Denis every day I was there. I even tried to pick one of them up, but with my limited French, ended up following her to a public toilet that she assured me was "Tr่s tranquille. " She was hot, but I passed. She offered to go to a hotel, but my cheap ass didn't want to pay the extra cost. I'm not sure about the other "non-old school" gals, but my guess is that they don't have their own rooms either, so either you're going to a hotel, or, as in my case, a public toilet.

    Another caveat for the daytime monger--this area is the so-called "garment district" so there are a lot of small boutique clothing stores. Bored WLs will often stroll into these shops where the shop owners all seem to know them. Some of the shop ladies dress like WLs and stand in their shop's doorways where they can easily be mistaken for WLs. Caveat emptor!

    Hope this info helps someone else have as much fun on RSD as I did.

    Boob out.

  12. #2334

    Tried and tested!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kib123  [View Original Post]
    Looks and sounds promising at a decent price point. Hopefully she stays in Paris till next month.
    Tried her out.

    Apartment in good locality.

    Excellent GFE.

    Photos for real. Very attractive.

    Profile says Polish but she is Russian.

    BBBJ CIM.

    30 min session.

    WIR. Yes.

  13. #2333

    WeChat

    I've had success with the "people nearby" function of WeChat in Paris too. In my experience its a numbers game, the more greetings you send out the more likely of finding a free hook up.

    There are a lot of massage girls on there also offering all sorts of services and extras usually in the Crimea area. Sometimes if you simply go to that area they will even message you first. If you are after a freebie just ignore the ones that instantly accept your friend request as ultimately they turn out to be WG's of one form or another. I've had some interesting offers from them for all sorts of bizarre erotic services if that's your thing, including an act with a scoopula, bread crumbs and some camel cockroaches.

    For a freebie you need to be prepared to play the long game, a bit tricky if you are only there for a few days as it is not possible (to my knowledge) to fake your location in advance of your arrival to find people nearby and cultivate the friendship before your arrival. But all told it has yielded reasonable results for the effort.

  14. #2332

    Belleville

    I had one of my best experiences recently in Belleville. There was no sign of any LE interest or activity. After a good bit of time wandering around I decided to go for the prettiest one I could find. She was a little older than most of those there and wanted €50 and I usually go for the cheaper not quite as pretty ones. Once in the room things were going OK, when I asked if DFK was OK she wanted €20 extra, again extras are usually a no no for me but decided to go for it. Once the paper work was done a broad smile appeared on her face, not sure why but expect she had met her target for the day. She was transformed into a passionate GFE, it was amazing for both of us and even when the deed, long post hugging and dressing was completed she still wanted more DFK. Great by all accounts. I am looking forward to being back and looking her up again. I might even try for a dinner date and LT / all night.

  15. #2331

    Be careful in France

    Quote Originally Posted by Barrington2  [View Original Post]
    Is Belleville still really active in Paris? Anyone have recent experience there? I'm a bit intimidated by the new French law that penalizes the client. But like the Asian girls (also much cheaper). Anyone have any suggestions, strategies or thoughts?
    Hi friend!

    In France you have to take a lot of care of such things because they are highly penalized by the law. I know friends who have been to Paris and Lyon to look for W houses and it was very tough for them. They had to contact people there who could recommend safe places to them. If I were you, I'd look for French forums and inquire right there. I think the best option is to take no risks. Good luck!

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