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  1. #2045

    Maria Mariana / Natalia Dias / Bianca Maria. DO NOT SEE

    The reviewer on the big American board who did excellent reviews of Jennifer PT / Eva Sanchez, Alexandra Mendes and Zara White did another review.

    This one was difficult to read. I felt bad for him. He got treated very badly, but negative reviews are as useful as positive reviews.

    She goes by three names, depending on where she is advertising. She goes by Maria Mariana, Natalia Dias and Bianca Martins.

    http://www.momentosdeprazer.com/MariaMariana

    https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...Dias-3019.html

    Under whatever name you might encounter her, this review says you should stay away.

    This is a guy who gave ratings of 8 to 8. 6 to the other three ladies he saw, so there is nothing wrong with him and he had a good time with others.

    He gave this Maria Mariana / Natalia Dias / Biance Maria lady a 4. 75, with a 2 out of 10 on performance. That seemed generous based on the details.

    He assumed her rate was the standard 100 an hour generally charged by independents for incall. When he arrived, she demanded 150 euros.

    He tried to kiss her, and she said no kissing.

    She did a short halfhearted blowjob entirely as a CBJ.

    When he managed to get hard enough for intercourse, she demanded that he not go very deep.

    He managed to cum, and just decided to leave even though he had time remaining. She informed him that he could not use her shower.

    I looked at her gp-pt.net reviews and they are inconsistent. Some good reviews with BBBJ, but also some very bad reviews with a 3 out of 10 and CBJ only. So apparently she plays favorites even in the local market, and certainly treated this foreign tourist quite badly.

    Obviously a lady to avoid.

    It would be great if this forum had more incall independents that English-only speakers could book with for 30 minute session at 60 or so euros and for an hour at 100 or so euros. There appears to be great demand for shorter sessions at lower prices. But obviously this lady is not the answer.

  2. #2044
    Quote Originally Posted by SimonWagstaff  [View Original Post]
    I will be coming to Lisbon for the first time next month. Escort Privada seems like a good way to go. I notice all the girls have different phone numbers so you just pick one and call? There isn't a central number? How do you know who is available? Is it best to try to make an appointment a few days in advances, and maybe via e-mail instead of phone, or do you just getting horny and start calling numbers?

    Thanks!
    Definitely use email for an initial appointment.

    That is the only central contact point and they respond quickly.

    Technically it it a consortium of independent providers, so there is a cell phone number for each lady. It works that way for the popular boutique appointment-only "brothels" in Barcelona that aren't really brothels but a bunch of independents that share a trick pad. We English speakers just call them brothels on this board, even though those places in Barcelona don't want to be referred to as brothels, probably because of licensing purposes.

    At most of the Barcelona "brothels" I just described, one person handles all of the cell phones. I know for sure that is not the case with escortprivada, because I was sitting outside at a hotel completely convinced that the girl walking down the sidewalk trying to find this tiny hotel was my date, and when I texted her, I saw her phone light up in the dark. I was like look up, I am right here.

    Others have felt when they were texting that they were communicating with the same person that was handling the email. So it is of course possible that the occasional lady who isn't well organized, or doesn't like translating and communicating in multiple languages, might have the person who handles the email also handle her listed escort phone and re-text her on her personal phone in Portuguese. And maybe each lady always has her escort phone with her and if she doesn't read English well, she re-texts English language messages to the person who writes English, and responds with the English translation, which slows down the process. I don't know for sure, but that has been my observation and guesses.

    So while the email goes to one or two people who are multilingual, the cell phones appear to be in many hands. So if the lady handles her own phone and is in session, or needs to use google translate to understand your message, you might not get as quick a response.

    You will of course want to put the phone number of the lady you see in your cell phone memory or in your whatsapp. I have had some early morning appointments where I was told to text the room number to the cell phone instead of using email, because the person handling the email might not be monitoring it that regularly early in the morning. That is another example where the lady was clearly handling her own phone and carrying it with her. I could tell she was strong in multiple languages and well organized, and she showed up on time for the early morning appointment.

  3. #2043

    Question about Escort Privada

    I will be coming to Lisbon for the first time next month. Escort Privada seems like a good way to go. I notice all the girls have different phone numbers so you just pick one and call? There isn't a central number? How do you know who is available? Is it best to try to make an appointment a few days in advances, and maybe via e-mail instead of phone, or do you just getting horny and start calling numbers?

    Thanks!

  4. #2042
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    Prostitution is decriminalized in Portugal. But as with many countries where that is the case, certain aspects such as pimping is illegal and more importantly, neighborhoods and rental buildings can have restrictions. So you will see areas of caution and discretion, which we should respect.
    Exactly. There have been some cases where pimping was involved. Not really a legal problem for the mongers apart from being identified and having to testify. Well, that can be a problem...

  5. #2041
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    In Lisboa, if one randomly goes to five bars in the neighborhood of one's hotel or apartment, one will find at least one bar with at least one hooker 9 times out of 10. Chances are one out of three that this hooker will be quite good looking, and one out of two that she speaks decent English.
    In what parallel universe does that happen?...

  6. #2040
    Quote Originally Posted by ConanTheMonger  [View Original Post]
    Police? I thought this was all legal in Portugal? I'm a bit picky when it comes to looks and I'll be there for only a day or 2 so I'd like to pick out the best and make sure they're available, are you saying even leaving it to the day I get there that the one's I want will most likely be available the same day?

    I haven't read much about the clubs so I'll have to do that, as long as the quality is the same as the escort sites then that will probably be a better option for me, that's more the environment I like and more like how I like to do things as long as it's as straightforward as the strip clubs in other countries that offer full service.

    Also I'm reading the Spain threads too so I'm not sure if I'm getting my information mixed but don't the PT women do BBBJ and DFK included in their 150 Euro fee? One got back to me and said she'd need to decide in person if she will or not. Is this normal or is it a warning sign of an up sell waiting to happen?
    Prostitution is decriminalized in Portugal. But as with many countries where that is the case, certain aspects such as pimping is illegal and more importantly, neighborhoods and rental buildings can have restrictions. So you will see areas of caution and discretion, which we should respect.

    Portugal is not known for upsells. But you really can't research independents you find on apartadox without joining gp-pt.net. It is free to join and the reviews detail the half-hour and one-hour price, as well as whether she does DFK, BBBJ and CIM. You need to open using Google Chrome to get translations so you can figure out how to join and to read the reviews. If you are booking with such an independent, it may be wise to mention that you read her reviews and prices on gp-pt.net. Although upselling is rare, that would seem to eliminate that possibility, as well as a "foreigner surcharge". The reviewers in that board are hard graders, anyway, and upselling would seem to be quite bad for business. Those reviews often give an idea as to her incall location, which would help you plan your metro ride.

    Your mention of the 150 euro price tag surprised me. The advantage of using independents from apartadox is that the prices are less expensive than the well-reviewed agency, and shorter time period options are generally available. Many do 60 euro half-hour and 100 euro hour incall sessions, but each lady has her own prices. This cost advantage is reduced, of course, if you incur taxi costs to get to her. And you have to evaluate the inconvenience sometimes associated with incall, as well as any need to contact her for information if you cannot find it on gp-pt.net.

    Research is a little bit easier with the escortprivada, since they detail service offerings on the web page. For the ladies offering CIM, I have not read any reports of either BBBJ, CIM or DFK not being well offered. There have been reports of ladies only listing OWO (with no CIM designation) either doing only CBJ or doing oral without for a very short length of time. So if BBBJ is important, you should choose from the CIM ladies. A quick glance of the current escortprivada roster shows the following with CIM designation (with apologies for misspellings) Rita Rock, Ana Castro, Lisa Bell, Joana Godhino, Beatriz Moniz, Zara White, Maria Menezes, Carlota D'Almeida, Marcia Santos, Raquel Lencastre, Sara Valente, Megan Lourenco, Carolina D'Almeida, Eva Carrilho, Madelena Villa, Matilda Guerro, Alexandra Mendes and Catia Martins.

    Now I am sure there are some escortprivada ladies listing OWO that will take you to the brink and just want a warning, and by excluding them from the list above is a disservice if the customer does not care about actual CIM, but it is so difficult to separate them from the ladies listing OWO that barely do BBBJ, that an occasional user needs to ask himself why he would take that chance without reading a review stating that she does BBBJ almost to completion. And I have not read such reviews of any of their ladies without the CIM designation.

    The majority of those CIM ladies have been reviewed here, or on gp-pt.net. And it is not difficult to find good reviews for many of them by reading the ISG thread and searching. Some are of course better than others.

    Frustratingly, that still leaves some ladies with great pictures but no reviews, including Joana, Marcia and Carolina, all of whom really interest me.

    Which brings us to Puma215's post. I am glad you liked them, but anything you can contribute as to who you saw and what you liked or disliked is most appreciated.

  7. #2039

    Lisbon

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    To each is own, but I am usually in a place for a few days with a few hours to devote to this activity. Not long enough to fool with the hassle of local phone cards.

    I don't want to hunt, skin and cook my food. I want to eat a meal from a good restaurant.

    I like to see well-reviewed ladies. So I do detailed reviews, try to convey reviews that I read from others (particularly if I know them), and encourage others to do reviews.

    Even when using a known agency, I feel that if I want to see a specific lady, she is relatively more likely to actually make herself available that day if I have booked well in advance and sent a couple of reminder emails. A good agency will communicate with her in advance of the date.

    A lot of independents in Europe have their own websites, use email and whatsapp, and claim to mark the future appointment on her calendar, with a request to confirm a day or two before..
    Last November I was in Lisbon. My flight arrived at 11.00 pm. When I got to my Hotel I contacted Escort Privada via email with a list of my preferred girls (having done prior research) to see if any were available that night. Bingo!! One of my preferred ladies knocked on my door within the hour. (I hardly had time for a freshen up!) I used Escort Privada several times during my sojourn and was highly delighted with their swift and courteous service. I intend to return in November, Lisbon is a beautiful city and is easy to get around on foot, the hills can be a bit testing on one's stamina, but I will not hesitate to be in touch with the agency again.

  8. #2038
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    It's a complete waste of time and energy to try to arrange for hookers months in advance. It just doesn't work that way, anywhere in the world. She probably thought you were working for the police or some bleeding heart NGO. I can assure you that there are plenty of hookers in Lisboa and that will still be the case if and when you arrive.
    Police? I thought this was all legal in Portugal? I'm a bit picky when it comes to looks and I'll be there for only a day or 2 so I'd like to pick out the best and make sure they're available, are you saying even leaving it to the day I get there that the one's I want will most likely be available the same day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Narcos  [View Original Post]
    If you are club guy just not loose your time to arrange the meetings with girls, and go straight to club Gallery, this place is amazing, lot of good looking girls and few really top ones. If I have to compare is not that good as Vive Madrid but the prices are 150 per hour and you really can find really top girls. The only minus there is, you should take the girl to your hotel, or to go with her in very cheap hostel next to the club, but ask the girls they all knows about the hostel close to the club. Gallery is worth the visit.
    I haven't read much about the clubs so I'll have to do that, as long as the quality is the same as the escort sites then that will probably be a better option for me, that's more the environment I like and more like how I like to do things as long as it's as straightforward as the strip clubs in other countries that offer full service.

    Also I'm reading the Spain threads too so I'm not sure if I'm getting my information mixed but don't the PT women do BBBJ and DFK included in their 150 Euro fee? One got back to me and said she'd need to decide in person if she will or not. Is this normal or is it a warning sign of an up sell waiting to happen?

  9. #2037
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    I show up with my dick in my hand and no advance preparation at all and do quite well. I guess I don't understand what one would need in addition to well-reviewed agencies, walk-in brothels, and independents reviewed on this forum. But I'm not a tourist. I'm a traveler.

    A great calling plan? You must be joking. You can get a local number and chip for 20 euro that will last you for months.

    In Lisboa, if one randomly goes to five bars in the neighborhood of one's hotel or apartment, one will find at least one bar with at least one hooker 9 times out of 10. Chances are one out of three that this hooker will be quite good looking, and one out of two that she speaks decent English. I don't really speak Porto but I'm fluent in Spanish so I get the gist of what they are saying so that does help.

    So that way, you can talk to the woman and decide if you actually like her, versus making an appointment months in advance with someone who may not turn out be compatible.
    To each is own, but I am usually in a place for a few days with a few hours to devote to this activity. Not long enough to fool with the hassle of local phone cards.

    I don't want to hunt, skin and cook my food. I want to eat a meal from a good restaurant.

    I like to see well-reviewed ladies. So I do detailed reviews, try to convey reviews that I read from others (particularly if I know them), and encourage others to do reviews.

    Even when using a known agency, I feel that if I want to see a specific lady, she is relatively more likely to actually make herself available that day if I have booked well in advance and sent a couple of reminder emails. A good agency will communicate with her in advance of the date.

    A lot of independents in Europe have their own websites, use email and whatsapp, and claim to mark the future appointment on her calendar, with a request to confirm a day or two before. That is very much the case in Barcelona and Madrid, but does not seem to be as standard in Lisbon. Even with brothels, the Barcelona and Madrid appointment style brothels take appointments at least a week in advance, whereas the Lisbon walk-in brothels never update their websites or answer emails. At least in my observation. Which is surprising since the locals speak so much English and the ladies walk down the sidewalk with their noses in their phones. And I presume some of those ladies are sex workers.

    Of course, a person in Lisbon for a few days will realistically only see a few ladies. So there are plenty of reviewed ladies on this forum to contact without giving a shit if a few others don't seem to appreciate advance bookings. He knows to cross the lady he interacted with this morning off the list. Better to know that now than the day he wanted to see her.

  10. #2036
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    I always arrange well in advance. Unless a person has a great calling plan, he can run up an enormous cell phone bill and waste a lot of time calling around figuring out who really speaks English, how much they charge (there must be some legal reason as to why the popular ad sites do not list prices), and how to get to incall locations. For most places in Europe, I have that planned out via email / Whatsapp, and with maps, including the metro, before I leave. Lisbon (other than the well-reviewed agency, the walk-in brothels, and the independents reviewed here) is just not as tourist friendly as other parts of Western Europe for buying sex. It would be great to get more reviews of independents that are easy for tourists to see. I tried to copy one, below, from another site. She might be one to put on the radar. And escortprivada has always been fine with advance bookings, but some do not like the 150 an hour price tag with no less than one hour sessions and no incall.
    I show up with my dick in my hand and no advance preparation at all and do quite well. I guess I don't understand what one would need in addition to well-reviewed agencies, walk-in brothels, and independents reviewed on this forum. But I'm not a tourist. I'm a traveler.

    A great calling plan? You must be joking. You can get a local number and chip for 20 euro that will last you for months.

    In Lisboa, if one randomly goes to five bars in the neighborhood of one's hotel or apartment, one will find at least one bar with at least one hooker 9 times out of 10. Chances are one out of three that this hooker will be quite good looking, and one out of two that she speaks decent English. I don't really speak Porto but I'm fluent in Spanish so I get the gist of what they are saying so that does help.

    So that way, you can talk to the woman and decide if you actually like her, versus making an appointment months in advance with someone who may not turn out be compatible.

  11. #2035
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    It's a complete waste of time and energy to try to arrange for hookers months in advance. It just doesn't work that way, anywhere in the world. She probably thought you were working for the police or some bleeding heart NGO. I can assure you that there are plenty of hookers in Lisboa and that will still be the case if and when you arrive.
    Sorry my post was to mention Conanthemonger.

  12. #2034
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    It's a complete waste of time and energy to try to arrange for hookers months in advance. It just doesn't work that way, anywhere in the world. She probably thought you were working for the police or some bleeding heart NGO. I can assure you that there are plenty of hookers in Lisboa and that will still be the case if and when you arrive.
    If you are club guy just not loose your time to arrange the meetings with girls, and go straight to club Gallery, this place is amazing, lot of good looking girls and few really top ones. If I have to compare is not that good as Vive Madrid but the prices are 150 per hour and you really can find really top girls. The only minus there is, you should take the girl to your hotel, or to go with her in very cheap hostel next to the club, but ask the girls they all knows about the hostel close to the club. Gallery is worth the visit.

  13. #2033
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickhead  [View Original Post]
    It's a complete waste of time and energy to try to arrange for hookers months in advance. It just doesn't work that way, anywhere in the world. She probably thought you were working for the police or some bleeding heart NGO. I can assure you that there are plenty of hookers in Lisboa and that will still be the case if and when you arrive.
    I always arrange well in advance. Unless a person has a great calling plan, he can run up an enormous cell phone bill and waste a lot of time calling around figuring out who really speaks English, how much they charge (there must be some legal reason as to why the popular ad sites do not list prices), and how to get to incall locations. For most places in Europe, I have that planned out via email / Whatsapp, and with maps, including the metro, before I leave. Lisbon (other than the well-reviewed agency, the walk-in brothels, and the independents reviewed here) is just not as tourist friendly as other parts of Western Europe for buying sex. It would be great to get more reviews of independents that are easy for tourists to see. I tried to copy one, below, from another site. She might be one to put on the radar. And escortprivada has always been fine with advance bookings, but some do not like the 150 an hour price tag with no less than one hour sessions and no incall.

  14. #2032
    Quote Originally Posted by ConanTheMonger  [View Original Post]
    I mention I'm calling from overseas and I'll be there in a few months
    It's a complete waste of time and energy to try to arrange for hookers months in advance. It just doesn't work that way, anywhere in the world. She probably thought you were working for the police or some bleeding heart NGO. I can assure you that there are plenty of hookers in Lisboa and that will still be the case if and when you arrive.

  15. #2031
    There are just not a lot of reports of Apartadox independent ladies on the English or Spanish language review boards.

    I am just not sure that foreigners are a big part of their customer base.

    In Spain, almost every provider catering to foreigners has email and whatsapp and is very skilled in translating among languages, and it appears that a reasonable portion of the business of the many 150 an hour independents in Barcelona and Madrid are English speaking travelers. But in fairness, there are reports even in the Spain ISG threads of guys pursuing 50 Euro independents from the Slumi advertising thread being hung up on when they called and spoke English.

    Also in fairness, some of local independent ladies advertising on Apartadox have relatively lower rates, often 50 - 100 euros for sessions ranging from a half-hour to an hour. If she has to spend as much as potentially a couple of hours translating into other languages, quoting rates, and eventually trying to steer a bewildered foreigner to her incall via the curvy, hilly streets of Lisbon, she might invest a lot more time into a 50 euro session than is worthwhile to her.

    If you focus on the many ladies reviewed in this thread, you will find ladies that were seen by non-locals who don't speak Portuguese. So that is a good start. If that is not enough choice, focus on ladies who have email since that is a low cost way for them to communicate.

    As I said previously, most of the agency ladies and independents reviewed in this thread are a little more expensive than the ladies more often reviewed on the local forum (although there is some overlap). But pricing usually makes sense if you really analyze it, and many of those ladies are building some administrative and outsourcing costs into the higher rate when advertising for foreign customers. A lot of them are available, and they are very responsive and friendly.

    Quote Originally Posted by ConanTheMonger  [View Original Post]
    I'm heading to Spain and Portugal in the near future so I want to reach out and line up some women so they're a sure thing rather than try to organise on my arrival in the country and be disappointed if they're not available on short notice.

    So I call one up today from Apartadox, I mention I'm calling from overseas and I'll be there in a few months which she understood, her english wasn't the best and she couldn't understand some things I was asking so I said I'd message her on Whatsapp to make it easier for her to understand and translate but I also thought it'd save her international call and text charges. We get to the part about asking rates and inclusions and she asks me to call in 5 minutes to talk about it. A few minutes later she calls me instead but when I go to unlock my phone it hangs up the call, she tried again and it did the same thing so I try to call her back, no luck.

    I then notice she's blocked me on whatsapp so I try normal calling and find she now isn't replying to normal text messages or phone calls, what happened there? Did I miss some code word or go wrong somewhere? LOL seems so strange but if I did do something wrong I'd rather know now than keep doing it and end up with no options on my holiday.

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