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  1. #1977
    Baltix,

    I did this summary a while ago regarding the escort scene.

    If you will read the last 10 pages or so of the thread, you will find plenty of reviews of escortprivada. They are the only agency with a lot of reviews. Everyone's tastes differ, so some guys will live one given escort better than another one. For instance, one guy raved about Bruna, who I liked but did not totally love. I have had great success with this agency and I really loved Ana and Sara, who I saw a few months ago. I have read good reviews here and on other sites of Megan, Eva, Zara and Maria. There are a number of unreviewed ladies I would like to see based on the pics and service offerings, including Patricia, Marcia and Carlota, so new reviews are appreciated. If you search long enough, you will find reviews here of many others with this agency. I can't summarize them all. A lot of guys think that 150 euros is too much to spend, and if you are in that category, just pass on them.

    I bumped this post because you need to be careful of the conglomerate of agencies that I mention below. They did a fake review by a one time poster named Guilhero or something similar in response to a negative real review and I could recognize from the syntax that it was the guy from that group of agencies doing the review. Just avoid that group in my opinion. They are jerks via email, anyway, and there are no good reviews anywhere.

    The group escortgirl-lisbon advertises on ISG in the classified section and they have a nice website. The one review on ISG was unfavorable but that lady is no longer with the agency and the whole agency shouldn't be judged by one experience. It would be great to have some more reviews, and the pictures of some of their ladies are quite good. They do have incall, but their outcall is more expensive than escortprivada. If you are not a local, you probably will have a hotel room anyway, though.

    There are some expensive independents in the 200-300 euro range that advertise on British oriented websites. At least one of them, Victoria, is favorably reviewed on ISG. But I personally don't see the advantage over escortprivada at 150 euros, because there are plenty of hot 18-29 year olds with that agency who offer all the standard services including CIM and anal, that are detailed on the agency website.

    That pretty much summarizes what I know about the agency scene.

    There are an incredible number of independents charging significantly less than 150 euros an hour, who often offer half hour sessions. That is the market most accessed by the locals, and I am sure it is an excellent market and I do not dispute that it has very pretty girls who offer liberal services. The service standards in Lisbon are high compared to most of Europe, with BBBJ being fairly standard among most reviewed independents. There are many links in the last few pages to many of these independents. One ad site that has a lot of pictures is apartadox. The local review site gp-pt.net has a lot of reviews that you need to use Google Translate to read once you join the site.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    John166,

    Here is what I have observed and read about the Lisbon escort service agencies:

    I swear I once read a review of the agency you linked to, but I cannot locate it now. I think the review was neither particularly good or bad, just a standard incall session in a downtown apartment. I remember following this agency on Twitter for a while, and they seem to be independent and upstanding. It would be great to have a review of them, so please do a report if you see someone.

    There are a couple of agencies and conglomerates to be cautious of. A group of independents came together and formed Best Escorts Portugal, which appeared promising since many of the ladies had been operating independently for a long time, but in the very first review of them on the big American review site, an experienced reviewer indicated that he received a blatant bait and switch and terrible performance.

    There is a conglomerate of escort services that link to each other. Easy Outcall Escort, Unforgettable Escorts, Attraction Escorts, Lissabon Escorts, Delightful Escorts, Flirt Escorts, Escorts Lisbon, Cascais Escorts, Estoril Escorts, and Algarve Holiday Escorts that appear to be one big agency. There are very few, if any, reviews of this group other than a blatantly fake review on this site that a guy got called out on. I tried to communicate with them once and I found them to be rude. I did not have a good impression of them.

    If you will read the last 20 pages of this forum, you will find a number of very good reviews of the escortprivada agency. My experiences with them have been extremely good and I will continue to use them. They do outcall, communicate perfectly in English, and most importantly the ladies have looked like the pictures, showed up on time, and have provided great service. I am unsure whether or not they have an incall location like the agency you linked to, but hotels in Lisbon are girl-friendly for outcall.

    I think that pretty much sums up the Lisbon agency escort scene, though I would enjoy reading the opinions of others, and we certainly look forward to your reviews.

  2. #1976
    Quote Originally Posted by KamaLeo  [View Original Post]
    Sooner or later, somebody is going to say that I'm biased, in a bad way, towards Brazilian escorts. But that attitude (which is not at all extinct) tends to happen more often with them. Not all, of course, and, among the Portuguese ones, in that respect, some plead guilty, too. But, as a whole, I'd say things were never better.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    While my sample size is not as large as your's, and not large enough to judge a population, I must say that I have received better service from Venezuelans and Colombians in Europe compared to Brazilians. My understanding is that the local rate for sex work in Colombia and Venezuela is less than in Brazil, so perhaps the ladies working in Europe from these countries are more motivated. Both of the Brazilians I have seen in Lisbon were part of a threesomes at brothels where the local Portuguese lady took the lead. I thought that was due to the fact that the Portuguese lady spoke English, but maybe not. The guys on ISG who go to Brazil really rave about the place, but I am not sure that carries over to Brazilians in Europe. Maybe the best Brazilian sex workers don't go to Portugal, but stay in Brazil or go to a country where the rate is higher than Portugal.

    One great thing about Lisbon is the combination of Portuguese, South American, and African ladies. So many colors, shapes and sizes to choose from. The wide availability of hard working local sex workers in Portugal is so different than so many countries in Northern Europe where immigrants seem to make up a very large percentage of the sex workers.
    As someone who spent a lot of time in Brazil I can attest that since about mid-2000's it became much more difficult to find a Brazilian GFE outside of Brazil then it was beforehand. That doesn't apply only to Portugal but also to the states and I suspect other places. The reasons?

    My explanations is that everything comes to / from Brazil with a bit of delay. There were all GFEs when in the states many local providers would have a lot of restrictions. The word eventually got to Brazil and Brazilians began imitating local ones when they went abroad. However lately at least in the states GFE has become more of a default among American ladies, at least in my experience, while for local Brasileiras non-GFE is still a norm. At some point it will change back to the way it was. I suspect the same would be true for Portugal.

    In my (too short of a) stay in Portugal I think I figured out the following: it seem to me that many foreign (non-Brazilian) girls who come to work there try to better Portuguese girls in the GFE department. I saw two women: Dutch Zara Whites from escortprivada and indie Larissa, the Russian (twice). Both were real GFEs, with superior skills. The funniest thing is that I speak pretty good Portuguese and several times I tried to see a Portuguese girl but every time it would fall through.

    Zara is about 26 with a typical Girl Next Door look about her. She is fully uninhibited in her behavior with a distinct adventurous side and seemed to be open to anything. There were some circumstances that made the appointment less fun than it should've been but I suspect it wouldn't have been for that I would've been singing more praises to her. One tip, try to get her from the late afternoon on and not beforehand. Would I repeat. Yes. She speaks fluent English but her Portuguese is suspect, at least it was so in late January and I suspect that hasn't changed much since. You'd ask why.

    I have to make a side comment in that regard. Portugal is probably the worst place to learn Portuguese unless you go to some small town away from the beaten path but even there I suspect you may have problems. Why? Because everybody seem to speak English. Every Uber driver I took spoke English. Every person on the street with whom I tried to speak in Portuguese would quickly, upon detecting my accent, move into English. No. There was one who didn't but (surprise surprise!) he ended up being a Brazilian! That's right, so if you want to learn Portuguese go to Brazil because it ain't happening in Portugal.

    Larissa is a gem. She is in her late 30's but looks younger. The main difference between the two is that while Zara would act super GFE and like if she was ready for one night stand but would practically go with anyone while with Larissa you'd will feel special. She knows what to say, she knows how to touch. The younger girls by definition wouldn't be privy to that, moreover many MILFs could learn a thing or two from Larissa as well. I already sung her praises in my previous post so I won't repeat myself. I'd say only that when on my last day in Portugal Natalie Glam (the only one I were ready to TOFTT with) and Ana Castro (several good reviews here) were unavailable I went back to Larissa for a sure bet.

  3. #1975
    What are the best sites for escorts, both agencies and independents? I'm not too familiar with the sex scene in Lisbon, but it seems interesting.

  4. #1974
    Quote Originally Posted by KamaLeo  [View Original Post]
    Sooner or later, somebody is going to say that I'm biased, in a bad way, towards Brazilian escorts. But that attitude (which is not at all extinct) tends to happen more often with them. Not all, of course, and, among the Portuguese ones, in that respect, some plead guilty, too. But, as a whole, I'd say things were never better.
    While my sample size is not as large as your's, and not large enough to judge a population, I must say that I have received better service from Venezuelans and Colombians in Europe compared to Brazilians. My understanding is that the local rate for sex work in Colombia and Venezuela is less than in Brazil, so perhaps the ladies working in Europe from these countries are more motivated. Both of the Brazilians I have seen in Lisbon were part of a threesomes at brothels where the local Portuguese lady took the lead. I thought that was due to the fact that the Portuguese lady spoke English, but maybe not. The guys on ISG who go to Brazil really rave about the place, but I am not sure that carries over to Brazilians in Europe. Maybe the best Brazilian sex workers don't go to Portugal, but stay in Brazil or go to a country where the rate is higher than Portugal.

    One great thing about Lisbon is the combination of Portuguese, South American, and African ladies. So many colors, shapes and sizes to choose from. The wide availability of hard working local sex workers in Portugal is so different than so many countries in Northern Europe where immigrants seem to make up a very large percentage of the sex workers.

  5. #1973
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    Another good thing is the basic honesty that prevails in Lisbon. An hour is an hour and the customer can climax as often as he can. None of the, oh you came, I guess we are done, bullshit that exists in many parts of the world.
    Sooner or later, somebody is going to say that I'm biased, in a bad way, towards Brazilian escorts. But that attitude (which is not at all extinct) tends to happen more often with them. Not all, of course, and, among the Portuguese ones, in that respect, some plead guilty, too. But, as a whole, I'd say things were never better.

  6. #1972
    Quote Originally Posted by BaltiX  [View Original Post]
    What do you guys think about the sex scene in Lisbon?
    From a standpoint of getting laid with an attractive lady at a reasonable price with liberal services and no upsells or a la carte menus, it is excellent.

    That doesn't fit into a lot of agendas of ISG guys who like the all day experience of an FKK with viewing multiple girls and interacting with them, and does not fit into the agendas of guys who like an all-night partying scene at brothels. So Lisbon doesn't get the number of posts that other countries in Europe get.

    The lack of upselling is so wonderful for those of us that think BBBJ should be standard and really appreciate the availability of CIM and anal. Negotiating a price is just not that erotic in my opinion, and Lisbon is one of the few places where a provider does everything she is willing to do in a session for a flat price. So it becomes a question of finding the right lady, since a pretty girl who does GFE, CIM, Greek and / or BDSM likely charges the exact same as a bitchy skank chick who does a lousy session with CBJs. Fortunately, there are more good ones than bad ones. Another good thing is the basic honesty that prevails in Lisbon. An hour is an hour and the customer can climax as often as he can. None of the, oh you came, I guess we are done, bullshit that exists in many parts of the world.

    That having been said, it is not the easiest market in the world for non-locals. I often review my favorite escort service and they communicate in English and try to specify the services offered by the ladies, most of which are in the 18-29 year old range. Beyond them, it is difficult to find reviews of outcall escort services from agencies, and some of the reviews from the other agencies are not favorable. Of course, an outcall escort must be booked in advance and that not seem to fit into the lifestyle of many ISG posters.

    There are several large walk-in brothels, but the looks of the ladies and availability of liberal services vary widely. Reviews are few and far between and you just have to show up and pick. The madam might be able to help with who does what, but you have to ask. There is no effort, even by the two big brothels, to keep an accurate website schedule or to answer emails. And they are not open all night, since they are in residential apartments with other tenants.

    Most locals do not use escort services, presumably because of the higher cost and the need for a hotel room, and most of the locals who write reviews do not seem to frequent the large brothels. There are a great number of independent escorts and very small boutique brothels (perhaps it is more appropriate to say shared apartments) with excellent reviews on the local forum, their prices are lower than the outcall escort services, and they generally offer liberal services. Perhaps it is getting better, but the difference in Lisbon compared to many other parts of Europe is that many of the independent escorts operate by telephone calls instead of emails / texts / whatsapp messages. That can make it difficult for a non-Portuguese speaker to communicate with them using Google Translate and to be able to book ahead and to find their incall. There are an increasing number of much appreciated reviews on ISG of these ladies, so hopefully there will be a gradual database of independent escorts that are easy to book by non-Portuguese speakers. The ads on the independent escort advertising sites rarely mention prices, so joining the local forum is useful when researching the local independent escorts.

  7. #1971
    What do you guys think about the sex scene in Lisbon?

  8. #1970
    Quote Originally Posted by SomeFunGloball  [View Original Post]
    Thanks Kama. It is a shame that Luna does not speak English (unfortunately same with Irina). Do you know her outcall rate?
    1 hour /100 is the incall. I suppose outcalls will be 150 (it's the usual rate). But you'd better ask her.

    Quote Originally Posted by SomeFunGloball  [View Original Post]
    Any other recommendations of non-Brazilian girls?
    Apart from Larissa and Ana Sofia (see my previous posts), Carmo https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-Carmo-3198.html or Carlota Amorim / Sarah Sweet (both are the same) http://modelox.net/carlota-amorim/ , https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...orim-2623.html , http://www.docemassagem.com/massagis...ota_amorim_05/ .

    I will soon elaborate on them and a few others too.

  9. #1969
    Thanks Kama. It is a shame that Luna does not speak English (unfortunately same with Irina). Do you know her outcall rate?

    Any other recommendations of non-Brazilian girls?

  10. #1968
    Of course, all sorts of market manipulation happen. In every possible (and opposite) direction. So you have to be very patient, read all of them, try and get acquainted with the local hobbyists tastes and drives, sort them out and make your choice. Yeah, it's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do it.

    I've never been with Irina Ferraz. For two main reasons: the uneven quality reported in her reviews and the fact that she's... Brazilian. No xenophobia, here. Simply the fact that the majority of Brazilian sex workers in Portugal tend to the mercenary attitude with little or no GFE elements involved.

    I would only recomend Petra https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...oniz-2453.html (despite the tiny tits, a great shag) and Luna https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...alli-2726.html (porn star quality guaranteed).

  11. #1967
    Quote Originally Posted by SomeFunGloball  [View Original Post]
    Many thanks Mongerer88 for your thorough analysis.

    I will clearly not visit Beatriz given that I just got fooled twice in Latam with manipulated pics. Good point on Amelia re OWO / CIM. I am hesitating to see her. I am generally fine with escortprivada and made excellent experience with Eva and Bruna. But again I am not such a big fan of repeat business.

    I am generally the GFE style fan. Beautiful face and service oriented attitude are most crucial as well as willingness to offer OWO, DFK and DATY. Nice boobies and booty make the profile perfect. Normally, I prefer 25-30, not too young and not too old.

    I spotted two other girls fitting nicely my desired. Izza Ferraz and Irina Ferraz from Apartadox. Let see.
    I presume you are a member of gp-pt.net.

    Irina Ferrz has at least two lengthy review threads you should review. Most appear to be extremely good, a few very bad, but who knows what kind of market manipulation might exist. She is so well known that perhaps Kama or Carlos have seen her?

    http://www.gp-pt.net/forum/viewtopic...bd01a&start=60

    https://www.gp-pt.net/forum/viewtopi...70&hilit=irina+ferraz&sid=7 a31 b9043 e82 a0 d919 ecb378 b3 ee096 e&start=75.

    You can access these links using Google Chrome after joining gp-pt.net to read the translation. The second link, which was harder to access, had the negative review or two. But even the best ladies have a few negative reviews that may or may not be real.

    If you do not speak Portuguese, you can answer the question of how difficult it is for a non Portuguese speaker to book a non-agency lady from apartadox, and if you see her incall, how difficult it is to find her place.

    I saw nothing about Izza Ferraz, but her ads are fairly new.

  12. #1966
    Many thanks Mongerer88 for your thorough analysis.

    I will clearly not visit Beatriz given that I just got fooled twice in Latam with manipulated pics. Good point on Amelia re OWO / CIM. I am hesitating to see her. I am generally fine with escortprivada and made excellent experience with Eva and Bruna. But again I am not such a big fan of repeat business.

    I am generally the GFE style fan. Beautiful face and service oriented attitude are most crucial as well as willingness to offer OWO, DFK and DATY. Nice boobies and booty make the profile perfect. Normally, I prefer 25-30, not too young and not too old.

    I spotted two other girls fitting nicely my desired. Izza Ferraz and Irina Ferraz from Apartadox. Let see.

  13. #1965
    More bad news. One other photo of Beatriz on her backpage ad is a lifted picture. The one with the lady on the bed. It produces hits from Eastern Europe.

    https://www.tineye.com/search/show_a...kashqip.info/1

    I am concerned that the other ones are also lifted, but simply show insufficient detail other than the back and the hair to produce a hit.

    Why do real pictures that are the most revealing but use lifted photos for the other ones.

    Too bad that Beatriz may not be real. Perhaps the large difference between her incall and outcall rate is that those getting her outcall are likely to be tourists who will not turn her away if she looks nothing like the pictures since they would have insufficient time to find a replacement, so she will score big with her 200 euro rate. She knows that locals seeing her incall would walk away if she looks nothing like the pics, but they might stay and do her for 60 euros.

  14. #1964
    Not sure if you realize that Amelia appears to be an escortprivada girl.

    http://escortprivada.com/escort/amelia-santos/

    Obviously I really like escortprivada. I believe you have done two reviews of their ladies, one you found very good and one somewhat mediocre. I have done some reviews of some escortprivada ladies that I liked better than the one you found very good, so I think there are plenty of good selections you have not tried.

    Tastes vary. I routinely lust over the many escortprivada ladies I have not seen but would like to. Amelia is not one of them. When I compare her to the other pictured ladies, she seems a bit bigger than I prefer, and her profile does not list CIM or anal, two services that other escortprivada ladies provide at no additional charge. While Amelia's profile shows OWO, some reports of escortprivada ladies listing OWO with no CIM designation indicate that the OWO is sometimes relatively brief before the application of the condom. If anyone has an actual review it would of course supersede my thoughts. I love escortprivada, but Amelia would not be near the top of my list based solely on the pictures and service offerings. They have added a lot of new ladies, many of which are reviewed here or on gp-pt.net, and many of their providers seem to offer more liberal services than Amelia.

    Beatriz has run ads very recently on several advertising sites.

    http://piquete24h.com/beatriz-acompa...giao-de-lisboa

    The pictures are quite impressive. I ran a tin eye search for authenticity and the last one of the pics in her ad is lifted from an adult model (a common occurrence in Backpage)..

    http://www.girlznation.com/galleries...leeping_15.jpg

    That doesn't mean they are all lifted, as the search revealed no other hits. But it is concerning. The hair color is different in the very bottom picture that was lifted. Why do a bunch of real pics but one fake one? Are they all fake?

    Hopefully she is real, despite the lifted picture. I could find no reviews but it does appear that she just began advertising. It would be great if someone took one for the team with a chick whose pictures are that good. Hopefully her low-priced incall will attract a local who will do a review in gp-pt before your trip. I have never seen a bigger differential between an incall and an outcall rate. I wonder if the incall is 30 minutes?

    Good luck with the search.

    Quote Originally Posted by SomeFunGloball  [View Original Post]
    Dear community,

    With great pleasure, I will return back to Lisbon very soon. I made some great experiences last year with Bruna and Eva C. And less great with Ines Reis and Nicole (independent).

    I would like to meet with new girls as I almost never go back to tested waters.

    I could not find any review of the following girls:

    Amelia.

    https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ntos-3133.html

    Beatriz.

    http://lisboa.backpage.com/FemaleEsc...lisboa/4186888

    They both look like a lot of fun, but I thought maybe some has made already first hand experience.

    I much appreciate if someone shares intel as I could not find reviews on the local forums either.

    Cheers.

  15. #1963

    New girls

    Dear community,

    With great pleasure, I will return back to Lisbon very soon. I made some great experiences last year with Bruna and Eva C. And less great with Ines Reis and Nicole (independent).

    I would like to meet with new girls as I almost never go back to tested waters.

    I could not find any review of the following girls:

    Amelia.

    https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...ntos-3133.html

    Beatriz.

    http://lisboa.backpage.com/FemaleEsc...lisboa/4186888

    They both look like a lot of fun, but I thought maybe some has made already first hand experience.

    I much appreciate if someone shares intel as I could not find reviews on the local forums either.

    Cheers.

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