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  1. #2047

    RE: What is the best salon at the moment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Holden123  [View Original Post]
    The question remains. Where is the best salon to visit?
    Well, one of the great things about the two websites I referred to while in SPB:

    http://www.nezabudki-spb.ru/

    http://markizaspb.info/

    Is that not only do they list the talent they have available in the salons, they also post a daily schedule of which girls are working or tell you which salon location contains which girls. All I simply did before and during my time in SPB was browse the websites to see which talent I liked, then see when that talent was working at which salon each day.

    Browse the websites and see which girls you like best and then visit those salons. In my trip report on SPB, I gave the entry procedures for one Nezabudki and one Markiza salon. I'd love to read a trip report where someone details the entry procedures to the other Nezabudki and Markiza locations.

  2. #2046

    Classic apartment with upscale girls

    I was in a nice apartment for about 1 year ago. Gowns, dobble doors, mirrors etc. There were many beautiful ladies there.

    I hope to return to this place. Does anyone know where it may have been?

  3. #2045

    Spb

    Quote Originally Posted by Holden123  [View Original Post]
    There are lots of stammers in this city. And they come out at night. As I have already said, myself and many friends have been victims. It is a horrible position to be in. At the end of the day, these kinds of people are criminals.

    This forum is the best to get a low-down of where to go in the city. So I appreciate everyone's comments on here. This site is highly recommended.

    As to hooring, what's the best place to visit these days? It seems quiet on here.

    I have been to Karamelki, Cherneyscheksya. Not so great lately. 1 or 2 girls. In summer there were more. I was drunk and ended up with a girl, whom I did not particular like. She was the only girl available. There used to be a girl called Inna at the Cherneycheksya. Really nice. But she doesn't work there anymore.

    Karamelki Fontaka is not bad. 2 girls there. They are nice, maybe 6/10. The madame is friendly.

    I haven't seen any stunner.

    The question remains. Where is the best salon to visit?
    Take a taxi and tell him to show around. Give him a good tip. Let us know what happened.

  4. #2044

    Tough to get reliable info.

    Quote Originally Posted by Holden123  [View Original Post]
    I haven't seen any stunner.

    The question remains. Where is the best salon to visit?
    Yes, it's tough to get reliable information about the scene here in St. Pete especially if you don't speak Russian. I've been perusing this Russian website with review on individual girls (both privates and salons): https://forumamur.com/index.php.

    But you need to use Google translate if you don't speak Russian, which is what I do.

  5. #2043

    What is the best salon at the moment?

    There are lots of stammers in this city. And they come out at night. As I have already said, myself and many friends have been victims. It is a horrible position to be in. At the end of the day, these kinds of people are criminals.

    This forum is the best to get a low-down of where to go in the city. So I appreciate everyone's comments on here. This site is highly recommended.

    As to hooring, what's the best place to visit these days? It seems quiet on here.

    I have been to Karamelki, Cherneyscheksya. Not so great lately. 1 or 2 girls. In summer there were more. I was drunk and ended up with a girl, whom I did not particular like. She was the only girl available. There used to be a girl called Inna at the Cherneycheksya. Really nice. But she doesn't work there anymore.

    Karamelki Fontaka is not bad. 2 girls there. They are nice, maybe 6/10. The madame is friendly.

    I haven't seen any stunner.

    The question remains. Where is the best salon to visit?

  6. #2042

    Tinder Scam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave9090  [View Original Post]
    I have never posted on here, however I am doing so now to make people aware of a Tinder scam I suffered from recently in Saint Petersburg. Whilst it happened in SPB, I am sure similar things happen in Moscow also so please be careful when using any online dating platform in Russia!

    Basically, I met a woman on Tinder back in June who I was chatting with for some time and then I arranged to meet her on Nevsky Avenue for a drink one evening. She took me to a place called the Secret Service Pub on Nevsky Avenue. I immediately grew suspicious upon entering this bar as it was only around 7 pm and the place was quiet yet it had 1 or 2 security guys on the door, plus my instinct was telling me that the staff there knew my "Date" without any of them actually acknowledging each other, and in addition there were a couple of attractive girls sat at the bar alone. Even though I had these instincts, I still stayed as I had never heard of people being scammed in this way in Russia, or anywhere else for that matter and I am very well travelled. Anyway, the Date kept wanting to go into a separate closed off Karaoke area of the venue which I wasn't too keen on as I had not even had a drink yet that day, and when the menu arrived to order she wanted to order a bottle of wine that was priced around 80 and some kind of meat tray which again seemed somewhat overpriced after the meat tray arrived as it was very basic, however I had not been in Russia too long at that point so I was not aware of what the prices for things should generally be also.
    1) First of all it's nice that you have shared your story so everyone can learn something.

    2) I don't want to offend you but you have big responsibility for what happened.

    3) Even if the police would genuinely try to help you I don't think they would be able to because nothing illegal happened. This kind of things happen even in Soho London.

  7. #2041
    Quote Originally Posted by Khan99  [View Original Post]
    I think you were drugged. And probably passed out and if they managed to peep your PIN they continued to use your credit card. Well actually you could go to police and file a complaint (I've dealt with similar case but I speak Russian well), and policemen might even go to the bar and check, but of course the would be a number of "witnesses" telling policemen that you bought all the drinks voluntarily. Selling overpriced drinks is not a crime in Russia, unfortunately. And you could not prove your card was used without your consent, as you do not remember anything. So yes, this is almost a risk free scam, until they cross the wrong guy. It happened once, as I read in the news.

    So at least you got home safe. This was an overpriced lesson for sure, but you lost nothing you can not earn back.
    Yes, I'd be willing to bet money that he was, in fact, drugged. It's common here in these clip joints. Happened to at least a couple of people I know. Luckily, they both had quality credit card companies and they contested the charges (since they were clearly fraudulent). They were refunded their money in both cases.

  8. #2040
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave9090  [View Original Post]
    Anyway, in summary, I did not report any of this to the police as there did not seem any point as I would not be able to claim such "theft" on my travel insurance and, as I am sure you know, the police have a reputation for being very corrupt in Russia.
    I think you were drugged. And probably passed out and if they managed to peep your PIN they continued to use your credit card. Well actually you could go to police and file a complaint (I've dealt with similar case but I speak Russian well), and policemen might even go to the bar and check, but of course the would be a number of "witnesses" telling policemen that you bought all the drinks voluntarily. Selling overpriced drinks is not a crime in Russia, unfortunately. And you could not prove your card was used without your consent, as you do not remember anything. So yes, this is almost a risk free scam, until they cross the wrong guy. It happened once, as I read in the news.

    So at least you got home safe. This was an overpriced lesson for sure, but you lost nothing you can not earn back.

  9. #2039
    Haha, yes I did post it there and a few other places just to let as many people know as possible so as to try and help other people not experience in the future the same financial damage as I did!

    I admit I was a silly boy in the whole episode though, and I could have avoided being fleeced so badly by just applying some common sense as I usually do when travelling, however I was already hung over going into the night in question so I wasn't thinking so straight as I never take credit cards out with me on a night out as that is just asking for trouble! That being said, if these [Deleted by Admin] and shyster venues were working honestly then people could have a relaxing night out without having to think some issues could occur.

    I'm not into pro's and found this site by chance when doing internet research as to where I could post online about this scam so as to inform other people. At the time of going to Russia, there was nothing online or in print relating to SPB that mentioned any tinder scams (only general internet scams which I assumed related to the old scam of people asking you to send them money etc) so RTFF wielded no useful notification in this case, and this is why I wanted to post this Tinder scam online so that people were aware of it, however I notice that people have now subsequently posted about this on this forum just a few posts before mine.

    Anyway all, stay safe and be careful who you go drinking with as some people can be very deceptive and good actors. And also don't take your credit cards with you on a night out!

    Quote Originally Posted by Quagmire1974  [View Original Post]
    I see that you posted this exact same story over on TripAdvisor in the Saint Petersburg forum under the title "Tinder Scams. St Petersburg. " I'm sorry, but some of the comments you've received over there so far make me chuckle and agree.

    What's sad about your situation is that while you were getting scammed at Secret Service Pub on Nevsky Prospekt, you were literally a couple minutes walk from a salon that I visited in mid-2016 and detailed in my trip report here on ISG.

    Thanks for sharing your story with us and sorry you got scammed. Since you mention here on ISG and TripAdvisor that you're "very well travelled," you might want to spend a little more time RTFF on TripAdvisor and ISG to help avoid what you experienced in SPB.

  10. #2038

    RE: Tinder Scam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave9090  [View Original Post]
    I have never posted on here, however I am doing so now to make people aware of a Tinder scam I suffered from recently in Saint Petersburg. Whilst it happened in SPB, I am sure similar things happen in Moscow also so please be careful when using any online dating platform in Russia!
    I see that you posted this exact same story over on TripAdvisor in the Saint Petersburg forum under the title "Tinder Scams. St Petersburg. " I'm sorry, but some of the comments you've received over there so far make me chuckle and agree.

    What's sad about your situation is that while you were getting scammed at Secret Service Pub on Nevsky Prospekt, you were literally a couple minutes walk from a salon that I visited in mid-2016 and detailed in my trip report here on ISG.

    Thanks for sharing your story with us and sorry you got scammed. Since you mention here on ISG and TripAdvisor that you're "very well travelled," you might want to spend a little more time RTFF on TripAdvisor and ISG to help avoid what you experienced in SPB.

  11. #2037

    Tinder Scam.

    I have never posted on here, however I am doing so now to make people aware of a Tinder scam I suffered from recently in Saint Petersburg. Whilst it happened in SPB, I am sure similar things happen in Moscow also so please be careful when using any online dating platform in Russia!

    Basically, I met a woman on Tinder back in June who I was chatting with for some time and then I arranged to meet her on Nevsky Avenue for a drink one evening. She took me to a place called the Secret Service Pub on Nevsky Avenue. I immediately grew suspicious upon entering this bar as it was only around 7 pm and the place was quiet yet it had 1 or 2 security guys on the door, plus my instinct was telling me that the staff there knew my "Date" without any of them actually acknowledging each other, and in addition there were a couple of attractive girls sat at the bar alone. Even though I had these instincts, I still stayed as I had never heard of people being scammed in this way in Russia, or anywhere else for that matter and I am very well travelled. Anyway, the Date kept wanting to go into a separate closed off Karaoke area of the venue which I wasn't too keen on as I had not even had a drink yet that day, and when the menu arrived to order she wanted to order a bottle of wine that was priced around 80 and some kind of meat tray which again seemed somewhat overpriced after the meat tray arrived as it was very basic, however I had not been in Russia too long at that point so I was not aware of what the prices for things should generally be also. I refused to pay for the wine and asked her to order another drink instead, so she opted for a cocktail (which I did not see the price of) and the meat tray, whilst I order a reasonably priced beer for myself. I was getting a bad feeling about the bar still, so I told her I wanted to go somewhere else midway through my first drink, however she was quite insistent that she wanted to stay in this bar. I managed to persuade her to leave after a while, and when presented with the bill it came to something like $80 which I thought was highly excessive but which I felt I had to pay as we had consumed the items. After checking the reviews of this bar on Google some time after, it was clear other people had had a similar experience to me and that this bar was clearly a scam bar. Anyway, after leaving that bar, the Date wanted to go to another bar just a few doors up from the Secret Service Pub, which again looked quite empty and ominous so I refused and instead we carried on walking up the road until I found a bar that was quite busy and looked safe. She was reluctant to go in, but I managed to persuade her saying we would just go to this bar for a couple of drinks. Anyway, when we got in there her attitude completely changed and she began constantly playing with her phone, and after 15 or so minutes two of her friends showed up and I then even get a worse feeling about events and made my excuses and left.

    So after a couple more drinks on my own, I went back onto Tinder and started chatting with another girl who, quite quickly, agreed to meet me that night. I had had a few drinks by this stage so I wasn't thinking straight, as there should have been alarm bells ringing as it was around 10 pm at that point on a week day night (not the weekend) and she agreed to meet me after not such a substantial degree of conversation. Anyway, she asked if she could bring a friend, which I didn't mind, and then also asked if I would pay her taxi, which when I asked her how much, she quoted something in the region of 12. Going on UK rates, I didn't think 12 was too much so I agreed to pay it, however after later learning the taxi rates in Saint Petersburg I know that 12 is highly excessive and that taxi's do not cost that much even if you are going from the centre to the airport. Anyway, when my second "Date" showed, her and her friend seemed really nice and I did not have any suspicions this time around. They asked me if I liked Karaoke and so off we all went to a Karaoke bar (which was called Granada Bar on Stremyannaya Ul. 4 according to my credit card receipts from the night). So when we entered this place the girls wanted to order a bottle of champagne, which again seemed highly overpriced (around 5,000 Russian Rubles from memory), however I agreed to pay for just the one bottle to start things off with the intention of then going on to something cheaper as I was well aware of the expensive pricing. But after the first bottle, the waitress kept coming back and I kept ordering this clearly overpriced champagne, even though I was well aware from the first bottle that it was overpriced, which leads me to believe that the waitress must have put something in my drink to make me more suggestive to keep paying for such low quality overpriced champagne (or one of the two girls put something in my drink, either way it was apparent afterwards that both the two girls and the venue were in on this deceptive scam), and the venue even charged an excessive amount for each Karaoke song (I have been to quite a few Karaoke bars around the world and have never been charged per song for Karaoke) and also charged excessive prices for Sheisha, which again I knew was highly overpriced yet I kept paying which leads me further to believe that I was drugged in some way. You were even allowed to smoke cigarettes sat at your seat in this Karaoke bar, which should have raised alarm bells also given that smoking in bars appears to be banned at all the other bars I have been to in Saint Petersburg previous to this bar. Anyway, I cannot remember leaving the bar at the end of the night, however counting my credit card receipts up the next day including the money I took out with me that night, I spent a total in the region of $1,500 (in hindsight it was very stupid to take credit cards out with me that night but I was hungover from the previous night and not thinking straight). The bizarre thing was, that second Date was messaging me the next day asking if I wanted to go out again with her! When I questioned the pricing from the night before she said that was "normal", however we all know that type of spending on a night out is not "normal" for most people! Again, after checking the reviews of this Karaoke bar on google other people have had the same type of scam experience at that place.

    Anyway, in summary, I did not report any of this to the police as there did not seem any point as I would not be able to claim such "theft" on my travel insurance and, as I am sure you know, the police have a reputation for being very corrupt in Russia.

    Stay safe people!

  12. #2036
    Quote Originally Posted by Khan99  [View Original Post]
    I might only add that this scam concerns not only girl that approach you on the street, but also girls you meet on dating websites or Facebook or vk.com or Tinder. A date is arranged, you meet each other on the street at specific address and she almost instantly invites you to a "very nice place" that is "just around the corner". Beware!
    Ah yes, I remember this scheme all too well. On my first trip to Budapest, many years ago, I was strolling along Vatsi Utsa and fell prey to this offer. Sadly, I was the equivalent of many hundred Euro lighter after only a few drinks. Nice to see the SPB has moved up market in their repertoire of scams. Just slightly more sophisticated than the "Two Cop Shakedown" on Nevsky Prospect!!

  13. #2035

    RE: Big warning. St Petersburg nightlife is swarming with scammers.

    I might only add that this scam concerns not only girl that approach you on the street, but also girls you meet on dating websites or Facebook or vk.com or Tinder. A date is arranged, you meet each other on the street at specific address and she almost instantly invites you to a "very nice place" that is "just around the corner". Beware!

  14. #2034

    RE: Big warning. St Petersburg nightlife is swarming with scammers.

    Quote Originally Posted by MorandUK  [View Original Post]
    Do you mean that they will make you buy them a drink which will be overpriced?
    I think what Holden123 is referring to is a common scam that is found in parts of Europe and Russia: You're a single guy walking down the street in a foreign country. All of a sudden, one or two beautiful girls approach you on the street and start chatting you up. You're standing there getting a hard-on and thinking "Wow, I might be able to bang one (or both) of these chicks!" After a few minutes of conversation, the girls suggest having a drink at a nearby bar. You agree and follow the girls to a bar of their choice. You all sit down and the bartender starts serving drinks. After a couple of rounds, the bartender brings the bill and you see that it's hundreds of Dollars or Euros or Pounds. You don't have nearly that much money on you and would never pay that much for alcohol anyway. You start eying the door thinking you'll make a run for it until you notice the bouncer guarding the door looks like "The Mountain" from "Game of Thrones. " You pay the entire amount or negotiate down to a slightly lower price or refuse and get your ass kicked. Scams like this one are referenced in many guidebooks (Lonely Planet, Rick Steves, Bradt, The Rough Guide, Fodor's, Frommer's) and are regularly discussed in the TripAdvisor forum. Personally, I give a very cold shoulder to anyone who approaches me on the street in a foreign country, even more so if they start speaking English in a country where English isn't the primary language. While in SPB, I did have a couple of single girls approach me on Nevsky Prospekt (across the street from Corinthia Hotel) and suggest going to a bar for a drink, but I just kept on walking. Another thing to watch out for on Nevsky Prospekt are pickpockets, who work the crowds (especially near the canals) that build up due to the traffic signals.

  15. #2033

    Big warning. St Petersburg nightlife is swarming with scammers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Holden123  [View Original Post]
    Big warning. St Petersburg nightlife is swarming with scammers. (For those who don't know already).

    Then they will invite you to a bar, where they will rob, at least, 100 dollars min from you. Be careful, some of them are very unsuspecting.
    Do you mean that they will make you buy them a drink which will be overpriced?

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