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  1. #17567

    April-May.

    Contrary to my previous day-dreaming posts about readily available and widely open Ukrainian pussy)) Here I am with a newbie Q for veterans.

    Synopsis: 2018 Orthodox Easter is on April 8. Too early for mini-skirts.

    Flowering chestnuts are in May, so are some of the ex-Soviet holidays.

    May-June are for Finals at the numerous universities, yet they don't study much. They make money, and pay those pesky professors.

    June-July becomes too hot, and some of the beauties say: "Fuck it! I go to Cannes / Monaco, put on my most revealing bikini, and squeeze them suckers dry".

    Objective: Visit not too late and maximize the ROI.

    Question: What are the days / weeks that mongers will be complaining about them fat scammers and ugly cheaters, and what would be the best time to go to Kiev in May?

    As you may know by now, I like well groomed, educated students with good manners, perky breasts, sweet nipples and healthy waist measurements.

    Thank you much in advance for sharing your expertise.

  2. #17566
    Quote Originally Posted by Coyle  [View Original Post]
    Hey,

    I am preparing my next trip to Kiev. This time I want to try "Threesome".

    If you have experience of threesome, can you share your experience / tips / such as what's so good about threesome. With two girls, 4 hands, 2 pussies, 2 mouths, 2 glory holes?

    Thanks!
    Threesome is an art. First one should learn how to do it. If you know the art, than you can definitely try. But I have seen lots of people who are unaware of threesome.

    It has rules to perform 3 some.

  3. #17565
    Quote Originally Posted by Coyle  [View Original Post]
    Yes, balcony seat in opera. Everyone pretends to be gentleman and lady. I am going to make this happen when I visit next time.

    I will buy entire balcony seats for her and make her sluttiest ever during all ballet show.
    I see! Maestro knows a thing or two about perversions. You'll make my dream come true.

    FYI: Holding the hand between tender thighs, barely covered by her silky dress, even while sitting in parterre, is perfectly fine, and doesn't raise any brows at all. Your lady of the night would actually expect it. And if you don't, she would feel uncomfortable, doubting that you appreciate her beauty. No matter the age difference.

    Drinking is another story. Parterre is usually a no-no. Got to be respectful to performers. Even Belvedere is troublesome, got to be creative with cognac in a cup of coffee and such. I guess some of us became too drunk, and misbehaved in the past. Your balcony would be NP, especially if every other night bartender sees you with a new girl.

    The best spot for truly taking her, is outside of the balcony, between the entrance doors and curtain separating adventuresome couple from other spectators. 6 seats in one section would be 400+250+100 times 2 = 1500 UAH = $55. Make sure it is uninterrupted by the calls from the agency by paying the girl for the duration, or having dedicated MILF, and by all means, go for it, man!

    I'm sure this sort of things happens every night at NYC Metropolitan, and in La Scala.

  4. #17564
    Yes, balcony seat in opera. Everyone pretends to be gentleman and lady. I am going to make this happen when I visit next time.

    I will buy entire balcony seats for her and make her sluttiest every during all ballet show.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    This is pure 24 karat gold!

    Diversity. Assured unexpectedness.

    The only regret I have is this: I could have had a BJ (or more) while in theater on more than one occasion. Not a movie theater, a real theater with performance on stage, and everybody watching. Girl was ready and excited, and I wasn't afraid, just decided I respect her feelings or something.

    My regrets are more akin to amusement and need for more creativity, more adventure. It's totally doable though.

  5. #17563
    Quote Originally Posted by Coyle  [View Original Post]
    Hey,

    I am preparing my next trip to Kiev. This time I want to try "Threesome".

    If you have experience of threesome, can you share your experience / tips / such as what's so good about threesome. With two girls, 4 hands, 2 pussies, 2 mouths, 2 glory holes?

    Thanks!
    You have only 1 dick. Some girls do not consider substitutes as worth considering, and object to being second, in terms of penetration order. It's a matter of honor and pride, so to speak.

    Also, changing the condom in the process makes it technically difficult.

    Lots of nuances.

  6. #17562

    Threesome questions.

    Hey,

    I am preparing my next trip to Kiev. This time I want to try "Threesome".

    If you have experience of threesome, can you share your experience / tips / such as what's so good about threesome. With two girls, 4 hands, 2 pussies, 2 mouths, 2 glory holes?

    Thanks!

  7. #17561
    Quote Originally Posted by Coyle  [View Original Post]
    ...How many times you look back, "I should have talked to her" while slapping your poor peppie at night alone?

    They are not standardized in all aspect of life. This sex industry is not organized. I think, Kiev became sexually famous not because of standardized process nor well organized system.

    If you prefer that sort of "expectable" service, go to Germany or Austria. Ironically speaking, I like Kiev because of this unexpectable encounter.
    This is pure 24 karat gold!

    Diversity. Assured unexpectedness.

    The only regret I have is this: I could have had a BJ (or more) while in theater on more than one occasion. Not a movie theater, a real theater with performance on stage, and everybody watching. Girl was ready and excited, and I wasn't afraid, just decided I respect her feelings or something.

    My regrets are more akin to amusement and need for more creativity, more adventure. It's totally doable though.

  8. #17560
    Quote Originally Posted by Coyle  [View Original Post]
    Hahaha. Your experience was just like my first time.

    Hotel and strip club are bad idea in my opinion. Ukrainians have some level of self-esteem which is nothing but sheer piece of paper in the beginning. But when you find a way to dodge this, you will find a way to get as much as you want.

    The principle I follow. When girl / escort is not nice to you in the beginning (when first met without exchange of money or any), I go into next level. Bribe - money, perfume. Even after this 2nd trial, still not friendly or willing to give it to me what I want, I quit and give up and go. Bitches go away and I don't waste my time. Good for both parties. Most girls, when I offer the "bribe", they come in my way, suck my cock without condom or fuck me as if they haven't had sex for ages. Don't be a winy wimp.

    I think my first trip was not successful because I put my emotions in front of me. Also this Western culture's pressure. Do not fucking think about talking to a beautiful girl on the street thing. Forget about this, relax and when your dick says she is hot, aim and go fucking talk to her. She will never come back and you will never see her again. Go talk to her! How many times you look back, "I should have talked to her" while slapping your poor peppie at night alone?

    They are not standardized in all aspect of life. This sex industry is not organized. I think, Kiev became sexually famous not because of standardized process nor well organized system.

    If you prefer that sort of "expectable" service, go to Germany or Austria. Ironically speaking, I like Kiev because of this unexpectable encounter.
    With Ukrainians, keep it real simple with an offer for expected services. Absolutely no extra money is to be thrown their way in good faith. And absolutely no extra money is to be thrown their way in good faith. Lastly, absolutely no extra money is to be thrown their way in good faith.

    Guys from the West are truly brainwashed to believe they can not approach a beautiful girl on the street. One of the best parts of traveling to Kiev is seeing the excitement of college age girls when I approach them with street small talk. I don't approach older girls, just the ones that still have juices.

  9. #17559

    Typical experience for the 1st timer

    Hahaha. Your experience was just like my first time.

    Hotel and strip club are bad idea in my opinion. Ukrainians have some level of self-esteem which is nothing but sheer piece of paper in the beginning. But when you find a way to dodge this, you will find a way to get as much as you want.

    The principle I follow. When girl / escort is not nice to you in the beginning (when first met without exchange of money or any), I go into next level. Bribe - money, perfume. Even after this 2nd trial, still not friendly or willing to give it to me what I want, I quit and give up and go. Bitches go away and I don't waste my time. Good for both parties. Most girls, when I offer the "bribe", they come in my way, suck my cock without condom or fuck me as if they haven't had sex for ages. Don't be a winy wimp.

    I think my first trip was not successful because I put my emotions in front of me. Also this Western culture's pressure. Do not fucking think about talking to a beautiful girl on the street thing. Forget about this, relax and when your dick says she is hot, aim and go fucking talk to her. She will never come back and you will never see her again. Go talk to her! How many times you look back, "I should have talked to her" while slapping your poor peppie at night alone?

    They are not standardized in all aspect of life. This sex industry is not organized. I think, Kiev became sexually famous not because of standardized process nor well organized system.

    If you prefer that sort of "expectable" service, go to Germany or Austria. Ironically speaking, I like Kiev because of this unexpectable encounter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Travv  [View Original Post]
    Was in Hotel Rus for most of the last two weeks in Kiev. Hotel promoted a strip club on the 2 d floor with 1/2 off discount coupons handed out starting at 10 pm for 100 UAH or $5. Went once to this club and then another time to the club at Presidential Hotel next door. Little pressure to buy drinks or tip and good looking girls, but after buying several drinks and tipping 100 UAH for a number of girls, asked a girl about going to a hotel room. She said that that was not permitted but she would take me to the VIP room for 200 UAH. Declined and left. Another member of my tour did the 200 UAH VIP room thing, but he only received a lap dance. He claimed that girls for going to a hotel room were available in the smoking lounge but I did not check this out. If you are going to the clubs, advise wearing a coat and tie, as you will be treated better.

    Contacted some girls from an online website but the first did not look anything like the photo so I offered to pay afterwards and put the money where she could see it, as I did not trust her to just grab the money and walk out. I told her I did not trust Ukrainians to not cheat me so pay afterwards, then she walked out (without the money since I blocked her from just grabbing it from the top of the TV) saying I was crazy in a loud voice. Tried again later, hotel security got involved but when I told them I paid for a double room, they stopped hassling me in the lobby. You might want to get a local cell phone with a Ukrainian sim card for $30 (around 900 UAH) for easy calling local girls.

    Overall, I'd suggest getting a double room for a few bucks more or an Airbnb room as the hotel security watch the lobby and if you haven't paid for a double room, they will be hassling you for "tips" or whatever. Saw one working girl sitting around on the 2 d floor but did not try to contact her as the online girls website looked like a better quality of girls, but the photos do not show what will be arriving in your cab. If you do not like the surprise (landwhale or? Arriving by taxi, send the girl back and try again and ask for the girl (model) shown in the photos. Good luck getting that.

  10. #17558

    A few comments

    The bit about getting an apartment as opposed to a hotel is definitely true, and it has been mentioned here many times before.

    I also like to protect myself against girls not providing the agreed-upon services once they have money in hand. I am certainly not going to wrestle the money out of their purses. Paying afterwards is the only insurance. I also put the money somewhere visible. However, I have also had girls walk out.

    Are you sure the sim card was 900 UAH? I remember getting one at the airport, as soon as I arrived, for about 100 UAH. It lasted for my entire 2 week trip.

    Quote Originally Posted by Travv  [View Original Post]
    Was in Hotel Rus for most of the last two weeks in Kiev. Hotel promoted a strip club on the 2 d floor with 1/2 off discount coupons handed out starting at 10 pm for 100 UAH or $5. Went once to this club and then another time to the club at Presidential Hotel next door. Little pressure to buy drinks or tip and good looking girls, but after buying several drinks and tipping 100 UAH for a number of girls, asked a girl about going to a hotel room. She said that that was not permitted but she would take me to the VIP room for 200 UAH. Declined and left. Another member of my tour did the 200 UAH VIP room thing, but he only received a lap dance. He claimed that girls for going to a hotel room were available in the smoking lounge but I did not check this out. If you are going to the clubs, advise wearing a coat and tie, as you will be treated better.

    Contacted some girls from an online website but the first did not look anything like the photo so I offered to pay afterwards and put the money where she could see it, as I did not trust her to just grab the money and walk out. I told her I did not trust Ukrainians to not cheat me so pay afterwards, then she walked out (without the money since I blocked her from just grabbing it from the top of the TV) saying I was crazy in a loud voice. Tried again later, hotel security got involved but when I told them I paid for a double room, they stopped hassling me in the lobby. You might want to get a local cell phone with a Ukrainian sim card for $30 (around 900 UAH) for easy calling local girls.

    Overall, I'd suggest getting a double room for a few bucks more or an Airbnb room as the hotel security watch the lobby and if you haven't paid for a double room, they will be hassling you for "tips" or whatever. Saw one working girl sitting around on the 2 d floor but did not try to contact her as the online girls website looked like a better quality of girls, but the photos do not show what will be arriving in your cab. If you do not like the surprise (landwhale or? Arriving by taxi, send the girl back and try again and ask for the girl (model) shown in the photos. Good luck getting that.

  11. #17557
    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanPine  [View Original Post]
    Brides are the number one export of Ukraine, the only thing worth something from Ukraine. Residency info shouldn't be too hard to find. Heck, I'll bet lot of guys on this board have married Ukrainian women.
    Yeah I did find some info about this on the internet. Just feel it would be difficult to DIY, but I'm not sure if the migration agencies are reliable or just fraud like the dating agencies.

  12. #17556
    Quote Originally Posted by GDreams  [View Original Post]
    I married an Ukrainian, applied for permanent residency through my home Embassy. They pocketed the application fee, lost all the paperwork which cost several hundred dollars to get and finally ignored all communication when trying to chase it up. I eventually gave up.
    Thanks for your reply. Is it necessary to bribe the officials to speed the process up? Officially as far as I know it would take two years or so, but I'm wondering if there's something could be done to make it quicker.

    And how do you know about the migration agencies? Are they reliable?

    Cheers.

  13. #17555
    Good idea, the only issue is there is even more Turk. Guys, then in Kiev, so be prepared. They are every where because it is cheaper. Go to Russia it is amazing, girls are way more beautiful, honest, and some even have jobs. With the crisis there it is not that expensive anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zidane10  [View Original Post]
    Good day,

    I am aware of the fact that this section is intended for Kiev reports, but considering more audience I decided to ask some advice here as well. Taking into consideration my previous unsuccessful trip to Ukraine, I did my homework this time and figured out that Kharkov would be optimum choice for the trip. The main factor to choose Kharkov was that it is predominantly Russian speaking city full of young students. I want to visit Kharkov in the second part of April when it is getting a bit warmer and some girls would need temporary sponsorship in exchange for carnal passion. Besides, as far as I know for Ukrainian standards Kharkov is not as wealthy as Kiev, therefore price tag should be less or at least I'll get more quality for less money. Given its lower standards than Kiev I assume that girls there are more down to earth and less cynical. I might also consider Poltava and somewhat smaller towns, however I have a feeling that Kharkov will work this time. Please tell me your experience and give me some advice in order to avoid unnecessary costs or surprises. Or tell me whether my assumptions are true or false.

    Many thanks in advance.

  14. #17554

    Any thoughts for Kharkov.

    Good day,

    I am aware of the fact that this section is intended for Kiev reports, but considering more audience I decided to ask some advice here as well. Taking into consideration my previous unsuccessful trip to Ukraine, I did my homework this time and figured out that Kharkov would be optimum choice for the trip. The main factor to choose Kharkov was that it is predominantly Russian speaking city full of young students. I want to visit Kharkov in the second part of April when it is getting a bit warmer and some girls would need temporary sponsorship in exchange for carnal passion. Besides, as far as I know for Ukrainian standards Kharkov is not as wealthy as Kiev, therefore price tag should be less or at least I'll get more quality for less money. Given its lower standards than Kiev I assume that girls there are more down to earth and less cynical. I might also consider Poltava and somewhat smaller towns, however I have a feeling that Kharkov will work this time. Please tell me your experience and give me some advice in order to avoid unnecessary costs or surprises. Or tell me whether my assumptions are true or false.

    Many thanks in advance.

  15. #17553

    General impressions about Kyiv and Lviv.

    Good day gents,

    I have been to Kiev and Lviv last year and I would like to share my general impressions about these cities from mongering perspective. I've been there for about 8 days and spent roughly equal time in both of these towns. From my point of view, Kv is worth to explore if one has at least average Russian skills, but it requires more time in order to get to know a girl and then to get laid. Paid services are a bit overpriced, even though I negotiated everything in fluent Russian. The topic of spoiled glamorous girls and ordinary girls getting greedy for money once they are in Kiev has been discussed here thousand of times, so I won't start it again as I am familiar with every point of view in this regard. Wish I had known more back then before I traveled there. Whatever.

    As to Lviv it was a total waste of time since most of the people there do not speak any English or Russian. So, never again.

    Thanks.

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