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    Quote Originally Posted by HelianthusRex  [View Original Post]
    Well, my almost 1 month long trip to Kiev came to an end yesterday. Wish I didn't have to leave!

    At first I had a really hard time getting around and meeting any girls of the kind I wanted. I really enjoy the "girl next door", fresh and natural type.

    I ended up going to a few clubs, check out 007 strip club out of curiosity. None of the girls were my type.

    I ended up talking to a fellow monger at Shooters and the guy told me he used a translator / guide service to get better deals on an apartment. I thought, maybe this guy can help with translating for girl hunting too.

    Well, I got in touch with the guy and was glad I did. We went out to a bunch of clubs including some underground places that I didn't know about like raves and local clubs. But, after the site seeing I asked if the translator could help me find a fresh, semi-pro type instead of all the brothels. We ended up making a profile on Mamba and trying some backpage type site. I got to sleep with 5 girls that were just perfect! All students 18-21 and eager to please..
    The service looks good. But the website has no phone number whatsoever. And it is a new website.

    If I found myself, I would have thought it was a scam.

    How much did you pay for the agency?

  2. #17482
    Quote Originally Posted by MexicanLover  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I am posting in this forum again after a long time. And it was great to get lot of info from you guys on Kiev. I had to read a lot of posts where there were many debates, to actually get information. I encourage more people to share places, names of women, contacts to really help others, either in forum or message. Went to Ukraine for the 1st time. And I have experience mongering in all other destinations. I believe in not over-paying and paying according to the country, keeping prices in check for everyone.

    1. Many of you guys are absolutely right. The amount of beautiful girls you see on the streets and metros that are above 6's is crazy. I totally want to stay here for a longer time. And they do really carry themselves very well, with the right grooming etc. , Every 2nd girl was beautiful (again, everyone has their own taste). Mongering itself may not be so easy at the right price. And need to work on contacts to get the college girl, etc. , which exists, especially in cities with universities. I love Kiev girls, in general Ukrainian girls. A lot of them over 25 have kids and are divorced. Feel free to approach regular girls on streets and if you have game, its easy to get them, as compared to other countries. They like being approached by charming men. Ukraine is relatively cheaper than rest of the world.

    2. Regarding tinder, other online dating etc. , Beware of many scamsters and something called as "lunch dating scams" where the only reason the women want to meet is for getting a quick and expensive lunch / coffee from you. If you are desperate for dates, go ahead, if that's all the feeling you want. I actually met a regular girl, who bought me coffee. But that's another story.
    Could you share link or pics of the apartment girls you went with during the trip.

    Thanks, WW.

  3. #17481
    I had Nights in Kiev who were really bad as well! No doubt. But what I want to explain is that it is a matter what you are looking for. I like skinny, young and beautiful girls and you get them at Rio. I am here right now and 3 Nights in a row I have more than enough of them. But last time it was just one out of 100! I want good drinks, clean surroundings, reliable managers, lots of girls too choose from etc etc. This is what you get there and nowhere else in Kiev. Its just a fact and I am wondering about people here who has been to Kiev may be 10 times and think they know everything. I can't count how often I was here and spend so many times at ALL strip clubs here. And the people that don't like strip clubs here at ISG, how come you know so much about them? Haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigSean  [View Original Post]
    I agree with you.

    I remember in 2015, I visited Rio and Doll. None of them was good and I basically waisted three nights there.

    Do strip clubs in Kiev really recover? I am highly doubt about it.

  4. #17480

    Rio & Co.

    You are right, its possible to get those girls but if you don't want to loose time I go to a strip club like Rio + all the other advantages you have there. Mandarin (strip club on the boat) is closed. It was owned by the Rio guys. They opened a new club: Scarlet. I haven't tried yet but will tonight as they offer free ride from Rio to Scarlet and back to Rio. Dolls, Solid, Harem, etc. Are nice but I prefer more girls to choose from and there are not too many girls. Baccara I don't know. And no, its not advertisement. Just experience from about 200 strip club visits in Kiev and too much wasted time in clubs like Buddha bar, Sky Bar, Dante, Dlux, Shooter, Wodka bar, etc. As well as too many fakes from Mamba and escort sides. GIA is ok as well but way too expensive these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by OlaOlsen  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    There is so many strip clubs in Kiev. And Rio is OK but far from the best one.

    So. What is this. Is it Advertising for this club or what?

    And yes it is possible to get a Ukraine Fucking Sex Machine who look like a 7++ for 100 $ / 2 hours!

    Insta: maryyegorova, alisha_n, provocative_doll, natali_7443 , makkarena125 and so on.

    I asked about Dolls, Harem or the strip club on the boat, Baccara or so. Anyone who tried?

    Ola.

  5. #17479
    I agree with you.

    I remember in 2015, I visited Rio and Doll. None of them was good and I basically waisted three nights there.

    Do strip clubs in Kiev really recover? I am highly doubt about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by OlaOlsen  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    There is so many strip clubs in Kiev. And Rio is OK but far from the best one.

    So. What is this. Is it Advertising for this club or what?

    And yes it is possible to get a Ukraine Fucking Sex Machine who look like a 7++ for 100 $ / 2 hours!

    Insta: maryyegorova, alisha_n, provocative_doll, natali_7443 , makkarena125 and so on.

    I asked about Dolls, Harem or the strip club on the boat, Baccara or so. Anyone who tried?

    Ola.

  6. #17478

    Kiev.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNameIsBond2  [View Original Post]
    Hi!

    I've just read 43 pages of this topic and I'm excited for my trip to Kiev: the Is it really that easy to just ask a taxi driver? Or do you have to find taxis at a certain location?

    I will be in Kiev the first week in December. I speak fluent Russian. As I have to stay with people, I cannot host. However I don't mind getting a hotel room if the opportunity presents itself (can only do daytime). Is my best shot asking a taxi driver? I do have some game but logistically not having a place of my own makes things difficult.

    Thanks.
    Generally speaking asking a taxi driver to show you around usually works. I don't for Kiev in particular but I assume it will work. Taxi drivers usually know the market.

  7. #17477

    TakeAway.

    Hello,

    There is so many strip clubs in Kiev. And Rio is OK but far from the best one.

    So. What is this. Is it Advertising for this club or what?

    And yes it is possible to get a Ukraine Fucking Sex Machine who look like a 7++ for 100 $ / 2 hours!

    Insta: maryyegorova, alisha_n, provocative_doll, natali_7443 , makkarena125 and so on.

    I asked about Dolls, Harem or the strip club on the boat, Baccara or so. Anyone who tried?

    Ola.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirch  [View Original Post]
    At Rio you pay 400 Griwna entrance fee. If you want to take one of the girls it's USD 300 or EUR 300 (yes it's weird but true, better to pay in Dollar or Griwna) for 3 hours. You pay her in the Club and believe me there will be no discussion about more money once you arrived at your place. Only thing they all ask for is 100-200 Griwna for taxi afterwards.

    But you have to deal with her in advance what she is offering / doing!

    I was yesterday at Rio and it was great! So many new girls (I prefer the basement club as here the new girls start to dance). For my kind of taste there were at least 5 perfect girls. I couldn't decide which one to take. I decided for Ira (18 years old and so skinny), she did a very good job but for my type too much professional. But it was a great time..

  8. #17476

    Great with non-pros.

    Well, my almost 1 month long trip to Kiev came to an end yesterday. Wish I didn't have to leave!

    At first I had a really hard time getting around and meeting any girls of the kind I wanted. I really enjoy the "girl next door", fresh and natural type.

    I ended up going to a few clubs, check out 007 strip club out of curiosity. None of the girls were my type.

    I ended up talking to a fellow monger at Shooters and the guy told me he used a translator / guide service to get better deals on an apartment. I thought, maybe this guy can help with translating for girl hunting too.

    Well, I got in touch with the guy and was glad I did. We went out to a bunch of clubs including some underground places that I didn't know about like raves and local clubs. But, after the site seeing I asked if the translator could help me find a fresh, semi-pro type instead of all the brothels. We ended up making a profile on Mamba and trying some backpage type site. I got to sleep with 5 girls that were just perfect! All students 18-21 and eager to please. The translator was great- http://personalvoice.angelfire.com.

    I got to recount the story of one girl, a blonde name Masha. God damn she was good! After some coffee we arranged to go to my place. She spoke no English which is great since she was totally unspoiled. I was her first foreigner and she was from a small village. After I closed the door, I gave her a massage to help her relax. She was a bit nervous. She is just 18 years old, a first year student at uni. Long legs, tight, fresh body-perfect. I started massaging in between her legs and she started to get really wet! It was so much better than the mechanical sex pros give. She was really natural and sweet and really horny after she relaxed a bit. We started to make out and I fingered her tight, wet pussy for a long time. I thought I would explode from how aroused I was. I got her clothes off and admired her perfect tight body and pert tits. We went at it in all the best positions and her pussy was so wet I couldn't believe it. Dripping in pussy juice as it made a sloshing sound. She was moaning and seemed to be enjoying herself almost as much as I was. I came so hard in doggie style.

    I definitely plan to come back to Kiev soon. Meeting non-pros was much better and will spend even more time in the future. The girls need less money and more importantly the attitudes were great.

  9. #17475

    Mamba girls.

    Hello,

    It is more and more difficult to find good semi-pros on Mamba.

    So many men pay to big money and totally destroy the marked.

    People pay a month salary for a teacher for some hours with a regular woman!

    I have met one from Mamba who have a job as assistant for the CEO of a big international company. The Ukraine office.

    She have a son. A job that in most countries would give here a good life.

    In Ukraine this job means she have not that great salary and she must be more than the assistant. (Read mistress).

    Look for the girls or the MILF. Those who have a job and children and maybe a husband.

    This one was fucking me as I was here love of life. And for 100 $. Remember: In Ukraine this is very good money for 2 hours!

    But it is not easy to find like this anymore. You need to be a lot in Ukraine then and develop a sponsor relation.

    But when you find the woman who do it just for urgent need of money, the one who do it not more than once a week.

    Then you can have a super time in Kiev.

    None of the girls I have met come from Apartments. Look up their Insta or FB profile.

    Look for those who are students or have a job. Look for those who have a boyfriend. A regular life.

    Ola.

    Quote Originally Posted by KY694  [View Original Post]
    No, but I am interested to try.

    Ola, of the mamba girls you contacted, how many of them are semi-pro, and how many of them turned out to be pro / apartment?

  10. #17474

    Strip Club Rio.

    At Rio you pay 400 Griwna entrance fee. If you want to take one of the girls it's USD 300 or EUR 300 (yes it's weird but true, better to pay in Dollar or Griwna) for 3 hours. You pay her in the Club and believe me there will be no discussion about more money once you arrived at your place. Only thing they all ask for is 100-200 Griwna for taxi afterwards.

    But you have to deal with her in advance what she is offering / doing!

    I was yesterday at Rio and it was great! So many new girls (I prefer the basement club as here the new girls start to dance). For my kind of taste there were at least 5 perfect girls. I couldn't decide which one to take. I decided for Ira (18 years old and so skinny), she did a very good job but for my type too much professional. But it was a great time.

    Another stunner there is Daria! Well let's say all skinny lovers will have their fun there!

    And read my other posts about Rio! It's the best deal you can get if you want a save place, good quality, healthy girls, good drinks and food, most girls in Kiev to choose from. All the girls at apartments, from Mamba, from Vodka Club or Shooters were in my eyes cheap, at Rio many of the girls have attitude and manners! And here is the most interesting thing about Rio, many times it is the cheapest place in Kiev! If you take her from the club around 1:30 am, it doesn't make sense for the girl to go back to the Club, so I had 70% of the girls from Rio which stayed until next morning, let's say 10 hours in total. That's 25 Euro / Hour for a very nice, beautiful, stunning girl. Tell me one other place where you get this for that kind of money?

    And now I see the other guys writing here that this is not true, they get girls elsewhere in Kiev for less or no money. Yeah yeah right. Let them talk. I can imagine how beautiful they are and what perfect body they have;-) . Not! Those people here at ISG also write about the GREAT FKK Clubs in Germany. So I know what kind of girls they are looking for. We in Germany don't go anymore to those FFK clubs as it is crowded by Rumanian girls and their attitude, manners, etc. Is absolutely bad and they look all the same. The service is bad and they behave too professional. I know many friends from abroad who still love this type of club and girl. But I am talking about completely other girls.

    So if you jsut want to have a cheap f* with a girl you don't care how she looks like, don't go to Rio.

    Quote Originally Posted by OlaOlsen  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    I have met a lot of girls in Kiev. But I have never tried take away from strip clubs.

    I tried it in Riga one time and when we come to my Hotel the girl wanted more money. This was not agreed before when we was in the club.

    So this is what I wonder about.

    When you take a girl from for example Rio and pay for this 300 $. Is then all payed for or not?

    Any experience from Rio or Harem guys?

    Thanks Ola.

  11. #17473
    Quote Originally Posted by OlaOlsen  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    I have met a lot of girls in Kiev. But I have never tried take away from strip clubs.

    I tried it in Riga one time and when we come to my Hotel the girl wanted more money. This was not agreed before when we was in the club.

    So this is what I wonder about.

    When you take a girl from for example Rio and pay for this 300 $. Is then all payed for or not?

    Any experience from Rio or Harem guys?

    Thanks Ola.
    No, but I am interested to try.

    Ola, of the mamba girls you contacted, how many of them are semi-pro, and how many of them turned out to be pro / apartment?

  12. #17472
    Quote Originally Posted by MexicanLover  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I am posting in this forum again after a long time. And it was great to get lot of info from you guys on Kiev. I had to read a lot of posts where there were many debates, to actually get information. I encourage more people to share places, names of women, contacts to really help others, either in forum or message. Went to Ukraine for the 1st time. And I have experience mongering in all other destinations. I believe in not over-paying and paying according to the country, keeping prices in check for everyone.

    1. Many of you guys are absolutely right. The amount of beautiful girls you see on the streets and metros that are above 6's is crazy. I totally want to stay here for a longer time. And they do really carry themselves very well, with the right grooming etc. , Every 2nd girl was beautiful (again, everyone has their own taste). Mongering itself may not be so easy at the right price. And need to work on contacts to get the college girl, etc. , which exists, especially in cities with universities. I love Kiev girls, in general Ukrainian girls. A lot of them over 25 have kids and are divorced. Feel free to approach regular girls on streets and if you have game, its easy to get them, as compared to other countries. They like being approached by charming men. Ukraine is relatively cheaper than rest of the world..
    Thanks for the report.

    I have a stupid question.

    In some massage places, you can pay extra to get "kiss".

    But the webpage does not explain if it is the girl kissing your body / you kissing the girls' body / mutual lip / mutual french kiss.

    I am of course looking for french kisses.

    I have read a few websites from massage salons, none of them give an explanation.

    Can you share the contact of the apartment (website? Where you paid 1000 UAH?

  13. #17471

    TakeAwayFrom Strip Clubs Rio Harem.

    Hello,

    I have met a lot of girls in Kiev. But I have never tried take away from strip clubs.

    I tried it in Riga one time and when we come to my Hotel the girl wanted more money. This was not agreed before when we was in the club.

    So this is what I wonder about.

    When you take a girl from for example Rio and pay for this 300 $. Is then all payed for or not?

    Any experience from Rio or Harem guys?

    Thanks Ola.

  14. #17470

    Awesome Trip in Ukraine. Autumn 2017.

    Hi guys,

    I am posting in this forum again after a long time. And it was great to get lot of info from you guys on Kiev. I had to read a lot of posts where there were many debates, to actually get information. I encourage more people to share places, names of women, contacts to really help others, either in forum or message. Went to Ukraine for the 1st time. And I have experience mongering in all other destinations. I believe in not over-paying and paying according to the country, keeping prices in check for everyone.

    1. Many of you guys are absolutely right. The amount of beautiful girls you see on the streets and metros that are above 6's is crazy. I totally want to stay here for a longer time. And they do really carry themselves very well, with the right grooming etc. , Every 2nd girl was beautiful (again, everyone has their own taste). Mongering itself may not be so easy at the right price. And need to work on contacts to get the college girl, etc. , which exists, especially in cities with universities. I love Kiev girls, in general Ukrainian girls. A lot of them over 25 have kids and are divorced. Feel free to approach regular girls on streets and if you have game, its easy to get them, as compared to other countries. They like being approached by charming men. Ukraine is relatively cheaper than rest of the world.

    2. Regarding tinder, other online dating etc. , Beware of many scamsters and something called as "lunch dating scams" where the only reason the women want to meet is for getting a quick and expensive lunch / coffee from you. If you are desperate for dates, go ahead, if that's all the feeling you want. I actually met a regular girl, who bought me coffee. But that's another story.

    3. I managed to find an apartment girl, where the girl I met, was amazing and seemed to take a liking to me. Was totally GFE and even showed me pics of her kids. She went all the way to satisfy me, totally worth the hour, with the longest BJ (not BBBJ) ever, few positions and lot of French kissing. Damage 1000 uah. If you know of more good apartments, kindly share addresses.

    4. I have always been a lover of apartment girls, especially in St. Petersburg. I love massages (body-to-body), and totally recommend Dolly's Massage parlor. Met a college girl Lisa, over there who is like a supermodel. She was tall, young and with a gorgeous ass and again, got an amazing GFE from her, and she allowed me to do more than what they promise. Of course, it was a happy ending but I can still feel her skin on mine, which was smooth like butter. In these parlors, you are not allowed to touch the girl or her privates but the rules vary. Damage 600 UAH. If you know of more good places, kindly share.

    5. Lviv, also, tried Paradise massage parlor, google it, standard affair, no touching. But the room and music transported me to the 90's. So it was different experience. The girl did not allow any touching at all and the finish was good because of the way she was gazing into my eyes. Generally mongering is not so good. Damage 500 uah. Again share with the forum, information guys.

    6. Odessa, again, just tried Yao massage centre. Website is spasalon in odessa. Service mechanical and damage 550 uah. Was a good massage though, they really try to give your body a massage with oil, at the right pressure points, some do it better than the others. I wanted to try the cheaper apartments knowing very well that I will encounter ladies under 6. So I went to try one at Bazarna st. 4. Google it. Prices here are 600 UAH an hour. Girls were not upto what most will expect. However, I found a mature hottie, who was more than willing to satisfy and has tremendous experience. So, not bad for the money. GFE with BJ and sex. Took her time and not mechanical.

    Guys, I have to say that with Russia, Ukraine, etc. , I have always found many 8's and 9's who give the most amazing service and good GFE.

    A 6 who gives good service makes her an 8. An 8 who gives bad service makes her a 6. Again each one of you have your own preferences, but many girls are willing to be very flexible with generally good attitude. Will totally repeat soon. Belarus is next on the list.

    Hope this helps you guys, but share more info, for people who will visit in future, as Kiev forum was not so easy to get this for me, as some of the other forums. Happy mongering!

  15. #17469
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthK  [View Original Post]
    I went back to Kiev for a second trip, meanwhile Andrei had asked me if I could help him out with 50 USD. I was a bit sceptical, but did it anyway. Considered it a big tip, hoping that it would make him work extra hard for me the next time. Did not notice any real difference in the girls Andrei provided the second time vs the first time. Also asked him to find a girl who did deep throat, but he came up with nothing.

    After I had gotten home from my second trip he asked me for more money, when I said no he started saying stuff like "I thought we were friends" and such. I kept saying no and he said bye, then I blocked him. Kinda as expected, his "friendship" is only as long as he can get money out of you.
    I don't know Andreii, but I'd call this guy if I was in Kiev. I have found drugged up pimps to be very useful. I don't do drugs, I'm as clean cut conservative as you'll find. But their's a link between the eroticism I hunt and drug culture. As a hobbyist, I have to accept meaningless transactions to find what I really want. Last week, my girl showed me photos of her girlfriend in Ukraine. A young emaciated thing that smokes weed all day and is too dysfunctional to work. I just started jacking off.

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