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08-05-12 09:58 #101Senior Member
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Velasco Sad News: US Army Commandos die on night out with local women
I have never been to Mali, and probably never will. I did see this news story on 3 American soldiers who died in a car crash, accompanied by 3 Moroccan prostitutes, according to the Washington Post. News story below. Sad.
Mysterious fatal crash offers rare look at USA commando presence in Mali.
By Craig Whitlock, Published: July 8, 2012.
In pre-dawn darkness, a *Toyota Land Cruiser skidded off a bridge in North Africa in the spring, plunging into the Niger River. When rescuers arrived, they found the bodies of three USA Army commandos — alongside three dead women.
What the men were doing in the impoverished country of Mali, and why they were still there a month after the United States suspended military relations with its government, is at the crux of a mystery that officials have not fully explained even 10 weeks later.
At the very least, the April 20 accident exposed a team of Special Operations forces that had been working for months in Mali, a Saharan country racked by civil war and a rising Islamist insurgency. More broadly, the crash has provided a rare glimpse of elite USA commando units in North Africa, where they have been secretly engaged in counterterrorism actions against al-Qaeda affiliates.
The Obama administration has not publicly acknowledged the existence of the missions, although it has spoken in general about plans to rely on Special Operations forces as a cornerstone of its global counterterrorism strategy. In recent years, the Pentagon has swelled the ranks and resources of the Special Operations Command, which includes such units as the Navy SEALs and the Army's Delta Force, even as the overall number of USA troops is shrinking.
At the same time, the crash in Mali has revealed some details of the commandos' clandestine activities that apparently had little to do with counterterrorism. The women killed in the wreck were identified as Moroccan prostitutes who had been riding with the soldiers, according to a senior Army official and a USA counterterrorism consultant briefed on the incident, both of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.
The Army's Criminal Investigation Command, which is conducting a probe of the fatal plunge off the Martyrs Bridge in Bamako, the capital of Mali, said it does not suspect foul play but has 'not completely ruled it out. ' Other Army officials cited poor road conditions and excessive speed as the likely cause of the 5 a. M. Crash.
USA officials have revealed few details about the soldiers' mission or their backgrounds, beyond a brief news release announcing their deaths hours after the accident.
In many countries, including most in Africa, Special Operations forces work openly to distribute humanitarian aid and train local militaries. At times, the civil-affairs assignments can provide credible cover for clandestine counterterrorism units.
But in Mali, USA military personnel had ceased all training and civil-affairs work by the end of March, about a week after the country's democratically elected president was overthrown in a military coup.
The military's Africa Command, which oversees operations on the continent, said the three service members killed were among 'a small number of personnel' who had been aiding the Malian military before the coup and had remained in the country to 'provide assistance to the USA Embassy' and 'maintain situational awareness on the unfolding events. '
Megan Larson-Kone, a public affairs officer for the USA Embassy in Mali, said the soldiers had stayed in Bamako because they were 'winding down' civil-
Affairs programs in the aftermath of the coup while holding out hope 'that things would turn around quickly' so they could resume their work.
Two of the soldiers, Capt. *Daniel H. Utley. 33, and Sgt. 1st Class Marciano E. Myrthil. 39, were members of the 91st Civil Affairs Battalion. 95th Civil Affairs Brigade, which is based at Fort Bragg, N. C.
For two months after the crash, the USA military withheld the identity of the third soldier killed. In response to inquiries from The Washington Post, the Army named him as Master Sgt. Trevor J. Bast. 39, a communications technician with the Intelligence and Security Command at Fort Belvoir.
The Intelligence and Security Command is a little-known and secretive branch of the Army that specializes in communications intercepts. Its personnel often work closely with the military's Joint Special Operations Command, which oversees missions to capture or kill terrorism suspects overseas.
During his two decades of service, Bast revealed little about the nature of his work to his family. 'He did not tell us a lot about his life, and we respected that for security purposes, ' his mother, Thelma Bast of Gaylord, Mich, said in a brief interview. 'We never asked questions, and that's the honest truth. '
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04-13-12 17:20 #100Regular Member
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GM8686 Bamako- Advice
Fellow Mongerers,
I've been in Bamako for about a week and will be here for another three weeks andd would like to know 1) Are there any fellow Mongerers available in Bamako? 2) Any advice or contacts for Mongereing activity would me much appreciated!
By the way- The Radisson Hotel has the best rooms in my humble opinion.
Sean
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11-10-11 08:49 #99Regular Member
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Henri2 Thanks
Thanks a lot for this golden advice.
Originally Posted by Scout123
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11-10-11 00:11 #98Senior Member
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Scout123 Its very easy. Ask any younger dude if they know any cute girls. Deed done.
Originally Posted by Henri2
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Or even approach any cute girl and ask them if they have any friends that could "show you around town". If they don't immediately offer themselves, they will surely rush to get one of their 'sisters' who could be anyone in the extended family.
It's all seen as a golden opportunity. At minimum, its a chance for a decent payday and a rare opportunity to hang out at higher end joints. If they're lucky, it's their ticket out of endless poverty.
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11-08-11 09:22 #97Regular Member
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Henri2 Next visit to Bamako
As already mentionned I will be in Bamako next week. Last time a door men at the laico hotel gave me a telephone number of a good looking girl semi-pro with good performances. Do someone have some advices how to contact semi pro girls in Bamako. I don't like to go to dancing, pubs or other public places.
Thanks
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11-02-11 14:27 #96Senior Member
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Otari That's cool. Can you give, please, anyway some details – addresses, place to be etc?
Originally Posted by Celuiquicherche
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11-01-11 18:05 #95Senior Member
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Celuiquicherche Find a girl in Mali!
Don't worry!
Originally Posted by Otari
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You don't have to find or seek for girls.
They will find you anywhere.
Even If you don't have anything in mind
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11-01-11 17:54 #94Senior Member
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Celuiquicherche Coccinelle
I have no experience with this hotel, but it seems to be good.
Originally Posted by Henri2
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Anyway, any hotel in Mali is girl friendly.
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10-27-11 22:34 #93Senior Member
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Otari I would appreciate it to.
Originally Posted by Henri2
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Thanks
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10-25-11 20:03 #92Regular Member
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Henri2 Mali visit
I will be again in Mali mid November. Friends sugested the new hotel COCCINELLE. Does someone have experiences with the hotel and is it girl friendly?
Thanks a lot for your help
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10-25-11 20:01 #91Regular Member
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Henri2 Very good
I will be in Mali mid November. Is it possible to have contact details about the girls.
Originally Posted by Celuiquicherche
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Thanks
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10-25-11 14:08 #90Senior Member
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Otari Pictures are really nice, that's true, but can somebody tell me how and where to find so cute gals as Aicha? I've never been to Mali.
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10-21-11 21:52 #89Senior Member
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Member #3436 My God dude. You are a Slong Master. You are di man !
Originally Posted by Celuiquicherche
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I hope that you did not hurt the poor girl's backside?
Thanks for the pix. I love those chocolate gals willing to orally massage my hemorrhoids. Mali shall definitely be put on my list for sampling.
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10-21-11 13:38 #88Senior Member
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John Auro CeluiQuiCherche . These are some of the best photos ever in this forum, merci
CeluiQuiCherche . These are some of the best photos ever in this forum, merci.
Incredible filles,
Best photographer.
Thanks.
John
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10-21-11 13:20 #87Senior Member
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Celuiquicherche Say good bye to aicha
Till next time


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